[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirmation of Marrige Information - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada

[linda]

de Souza makes more sense than da Luiza


L.

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 9:33:36 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> I agree with Linda as far as the bride's father, but I think the bride's 
> mother begins with an S; possibly Souza?  Other than the "o" being closed, 
> it looks like "Souza" in the bride's father's name.
>
> Bill
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirmation of Marrige Information - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada

[bsei2816]

Hi Lee,

I agree with Linda as far as the bride's father, but I think the bride's 
mother begins with an S; possibly Souza?  Other than the "o" being closed, 
it looks like "Souza" in the bride's father's name.

Bill

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

[linda]

You made my day!

:D

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:54:06 PM UTC-7, Denise wrote:

> Hi Linda,
>
> That’s wonderful, I’m glad I was able to help you out!!
>
> Denise
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2015, at 3:28 PM, linda > 
> wrote:
>
> A follow up...
>
> I've just found a marriage record for Maria da Fonseca's brother, Sebastiao
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P43.html
>
> The writing on this record more clearly shows their parents as An.to da 
> Fonseca Saraiva and Catarina Escota Botelha.
>
> Thanks again Denise-- I wouldn't have found this without your help,
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:28:39 AM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>
>> Denise,
>>
>> Thanks so much for your help with this record.  The names Saraiva and 
>> Escoto are both new to me.  I'll keep an eye out for them in other records 
>> in my search.  Many thanks also for looking at the wording in the 
>> dispensation. I'll make a note, and now I can move along feeling confident 
>> that I've got as much information from this record as I can!
>>
>> with much appreciation,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:26:33 AM UTC-7, Denise wrote:
>>
>>> The word after Antonio da Fonseca is Saraiva, and it's part of his name. 
>>> The word after Catarina is also part of her name, it looks kind of like 
>>> Escoto. I'm not really sure. 
>>>
>>> The wording about the dispensation looks like the standard wording. 
>>>
>>> Denise D'Antona
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:12 PM, linda  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> right side page, top record:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P48.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>> This is a clearly written, easy to read record, but there are three 
>>> areas I would like help with, please.
>>>
>>> The bride's parents each have a word following their names which I can't 
>>> make out.  I see the bride's information as:
>>>
>>> "...Maria da Fonseca, filha de An.to da Fonseca [unknown word/name] 
>>> defunto, e de sua molher Catarina [unknown word/name]..."
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest what these two words/names are? (as a side question: 
>>> if these words are nouns or adjectives rather than names, why didn't the 
>>> groom's parents have similar?)
>>>
>>> The third area I'd appreciate clarification is with the note 
>>> about a dispensation of consanguinity.  I read that the consanguinity is of 
>>> the 4th degree, but my grasp of the language isn't sufficient to understand 
>>> whether the phrase preceding the list of witnesses contains any information 
>>> of interest or if it is simply standard wording for such cases.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for help and suggestions,
>>>
>>> Linda
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirmation of Marrige Information - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada

[linda]

Hi Lee,

I see the bride's father as Bras de Souza da Mota.  Otherwise, we agree.  

My impression going through the records is that Xavier is a second name, 
but I don't know for sure.

best wishes,

Linda

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:52:48 PM UTC-7, Lee wrote:

> After some searching I found the attached marrigae record for Luis Pereira 
> and Paula de Sao Thomas (right page)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1747-1782/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1747-1782_item1/P38.html
>
> I would appreciate a "second" pair of eyes to make sure that I've read it 
> correctly; as follows:
>
> Married on 28th January 1753
>
> Luis Pereira filho de Antonio Pereira e de Francisca Xavier (maiden name? 
> or a secondo name?)
> to
> Paula de Sao Thomas filha de Bras de Souza da Orta e de Maria da Luiza?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee 
> Oak Hill, WV
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

['Denise' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Linda,

That’s wonderful, I’m glad I was able to help you out!!

Denise


> On Sep 27, 2015, at 3:28 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> A follow up...
> 
> I've just found a marriage record for Maria da Fonseca's brother, Sebastiao
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P43.html
>  
> 
> 
> The writing on this record more clearly shows their parents as An.to da 
> Fonseca Saraiva and Catarina Escota Botelha.
> 
> Thanks again Denise-- I wouldn't have found this without your help,
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:28:39 AM UTC-7, linda wrote:
> Denise,
> 
> Thanks so much for your help with this record.  The names Saraiva and Escoto 
> are both new to me.  I'll keep an eye out for them in other records in my 
> search.  Many thanks also for looking at the wording in the dispensation. 
> I'll make a note, and now I can move along feeling confident that I've got as 
> much information from this record as I can!
> 
> with much appreciation,
> 
> Linda
> 
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:26:33 AM UTC-7, Denise wrote:
> The word after Antonio da Fonseca is Saraiva, and it's part of his name. The 
> word after Catarina is also part of her name, it looks kind of like Escoto. 
> I'm not really sure. 
> 
> The wording about the dispensation looks like the standard wording. 
> 
> Denise D'Antona
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:12 PM, linda > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> right side page, top record:
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P48.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>> 
>> This is a clearly written, easy to read record, but there are three areas I 
>> would like help with, please.
>> 
>> The bride's parents each have a word following their names which I can't 
>> make out.  I see the bride's information as:
>> 
>> "...Maria da Fonseca, filha de An.to da Fonseca [unknown word/name] defunto, 
>> e de sua molher Catarina [unknown word/name]..."
>> 
>> Can anyone suggest what these two words/names are? (as a side question: if 
>> these words are nouns or adjectives rather than names, why didn't the 
>> groom's parents have similar?)
>> 
>> The third area I'd appreciate clarification is with the note about a 
>> dispensation of consanguinity.  I read that the consanguinity is of the 4th 
>> degree, but my grasp of the language isn't sufficient to understand whether 
>> the phrase preceding the list of witnesses contains any information of 
>> interest or if it is simply standard wording for such cases.
>> 
>> Thanks very much for help and suggestions,
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Confirmation of Marrige Information - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada

[Lee]

After some searching I found the attached marrigae record for Luis Pereira 
and Paula de Sao Thomas (right page)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1747-1782/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1747-1782_item1/P38.html

I would appreciate a "second" pair of eyes to make sure that I've read it 
correctly; as follows:

Married on 28th January 1753

Luis Pereira filho de Antonio Pereira e de Francisca Xavier (maiden name? 
or a secondo name?)
to
Paula de Sao Thomas filha de Bras de Souza da Orta e de Maria da Luiza?

Thanks!

Lee 
Oak Hill, WV


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration records

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

It is the nature of our open society and of our values. We want to know that 
people are traveling abroad, but it is none of our business if they are going 
to be away for a week or forever. The government does not keep track on people 
who decide to leave permanently. Of course, computers can show that John Doe  
left the US on January 1st and has yet to return. And, sometimes ex-patriots 
still need to file federal income taxes from abroad and sometimes have their 
social security and other pensions directly deposited into foreign banks. But 
that still doesn't tell you if they are away "for a while" or forever.
JMR
 


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 Why is that the case that emigration records do not exist do you know ? George

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

[linda]

A follow up...

I've just found a marriage record for Maria da Fonseca's brother, Sebastiao

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P43.html

The writing on this record more clearly shows their parents as An.to da 
Fonseca Saraiva and Catarina Escota Botelha.

Thanks again Denise-- I wouldn't have found this without your help,

Linda


On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:28:39 AM UTC-7, linda wrote:

> Denise,
>
> Thanks so much for your help with this record.  The names Saraiva and 
> Escoto are both new to me.  I'll keep an eye out for them in other records 
> in my search.  Many thanks also for looking at the wording in the 
> dispensation. I'll make a note, and now I can move along feeling confident 
> that I've got as much information from this record as I can!
>
> with much appreciation,
>
> Linda
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:26:33 AM UTC-7, Denise wrote:
>
>> The word after Antonio da Fonseca is Saraiva, and it's part of his name. 
>> The word after Catarina is also part of her name, it looks kind of like 
>> Escoto. I'm not really sure. 
>>
>> The wording about the dispensation looks like the standard wording. 
>>
>> Denise D'Antona
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:12 PM, linda  wrote:
>>
>>
>> right side page, top record:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P48.html
>>
>>
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> This is a clearly written, easy to read record, but there are three areas 
>> I would like help with, please.
>>
>> The bride's parents each have a word following their names which I can't 
>> make out.  I see the bride's information as:
>>
>> "...Maria da Fonseca, filha de An.to da Fonseca [unknown word/name] 
>> defunto, e de sua molher Catarina [unknown word/name]..."
>>
>> Can anyone suggest what these two words/names are? (as a side question: 
>> if these words are nouns or adjectives rather than names, why didn't the 
>> groom's parents have similar?)
>>
>> The third area I'd appreciate clarification is with the note 
>> about a dispensation of consanguinity.  I read that the consanguinity is of 
>> the 4th degree, but my grasp of the language isn't sufficient to understand 
>> whether the phrase preceding the list of witnesses contains any information 
>> of interest or if it is simply standard wording for such cases.
>>
>> Thanks very much for help and suggestions,
>>
>> Linda
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage and Birth records in the Azores after 1920

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It's not you.  In fact they did change the securities.  I wrote to them
about this problem to which they replied we can still obtain the
certificates by accessing the option as shown below.  They insisted we did
not need Citizen id number to acess it but the many times I tried and
couldn't get in.  Hopefully you can read portuguese to follow their
instructions below.

Cara Sra. Margaret Vicente,



Antes de mais, obrigada pelo seu contacto.





Para utilizar o serviço de Certidões Online do Portal do Cidadão deverá:



1) Registar-se como utilizador na página inicial do Portal do Cidadão,
selecionando a opção “Autenticação” situada no topo direito da página, e
escolhendo a opção "Utilizador/palavra-chave";

2) Confirmar o registo no Portal do Cidadão, através da receção de um
e-mail;

3) Autenticar-se no Portal do Cidadão com o utilizador e a palavra-chave;

4) Clicar em "Realizar serviço online" na página
https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/pt/web/agencia-para-a-modernizacao-administrativa/portal-do-cidadao-certidao-de-registo-civil
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> So I confess I am feeling a little stupid at this point.  Grandparents
> have passed and I am looking for the records, specifically birth
> certificates which will give further names.  I have gone to the link below
> and can't quite figure out how to navigate it.  I always get to where they
> want my digital certificate/card, which I don't have.  Any help?  I'd love
> to be able to request and pay online.
>
> Barb
>
> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 6:02:01 AM UTC-6, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cheri and Barbara,
>>
>> the site is called  "Portal do Cidadao"
>>
>>
>> https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/web/instituto-dos-registos-e-do-notariado/registo-civil-certidao-de-nascimento
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>>> Serreta is in the council of Angra. As for these recent records, I'm not
>>> sure of their rules. They may give you the 1954 record if you are named in
>>> that record. Maybe they have a rule about the record needs to be so many
>>> years old. I believe Margaret Vicente posted a link last week to a site to
>>> order recent vital records. Maybe she will be gracious enough to repost it.
>>> Read it carefully to make sure your request is within their rules and
>>> regulations. Every country is now concerned about invasion of privacy.
>>> Cheri
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antoino Pacheco de Lima & Susana da Rosa de Puga 1617 Se, Angra, Terceira

[linda]

Aaron!

You are a MAGICIAN!  How on earth did you pull that marvelous rabbit out of 
a hat???

Thank you so much!

:D :D :D

Linda

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:50:10 AM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:

>
> Hi Linda,
> I have some good news for you...it's a nice surprise.  Top, right side of 
> page. 
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588_item1/P25.html
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:47:00 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Yes, that's more or less what I'm seeing.  My brain takes turns between 
>> "Brasanrigues" and "Gaspar r[odr]igues"  
>>
>> I think you're correct: the descending letter toward the end isn't a "g" 
>> but a "q".  It looks like the "q" in "Pacheqo" (four lines above) and not 
>> the "g" three lines below where he's written out the actual name "Gaspar 
>> Rodrigues".  That descending letter toward the beginning is most likely an 
>> "s"-- though his "p's" are very variable.  Argh.
>>
>> "bra sam riques"?  Not likely!  [head banging on table]
>>
>> Thanks so much.  I really appreciate your help and a second set of eyes 
>> on the record,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:37:14 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I agree, the brides father is difficult...Here are the letters I see:  
>>> Bras, anriqzos...I'm sure some of these letters could be different, but, 
>>> its a starting point.  I used the LDS book, "Basic Portuguese Paleography"
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:38:51 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:

 Darn!  Thanks so much Aaron, but I believe Domingos Fernandes is the 
 Groom's father.   

 I'm having difficulty deciphering the Bride's father's name.  

 thanks again, I really appreciate your having a look,

 Linda

 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:24:06 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:

> Thanks so much!  I'll add that to my list of possibilities.  I've 
> stared at the name for so long that its solidified into nonsense letters. 
>  
>
> any further suggestions gratefully received,
>
> L.
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:13:48 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira 
> wrote:
>
>> I see Domingos Fernandes(z)
>>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antoino Pacheco de Lima & Susana da Rosa de Puga 1617 Se, Angra, Terceira

[linda]

Denise,

Thank you again for your help!  Anriques is another new name for me.  With 
your explanation, the writing becomes quite legible.

very gratefully yours,

Linda

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:32:23 AM UTC-7, Denise wrote:

> The brides father is Bras Henriques. It's spelled the old way of Anriques 
> in the record. 
>
> Denise D'Antona
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 27, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Aaron Pereira  > wrote:
>
>
> Hi Linda,
> I have some good news for you...it's a nice surprise.  Top, right side of 
> page. 
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588_item1/P25.html
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:47:00 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Yes, that's more or less what I'm seeing.  My brain takes turns between 
>> "Brasanrigues" and "Gaspar r[odr]igues"  
>>
>> I think you're correct: the descending letter toward the end isn't a "g" 
>> but a "q".  It looks like the "q" in "Pacheqo" (four lines above) and not 
>> the "g" three lines below where he's written out the actual name "Gaspar 
>> Rodrigues".  That descending letter toward the beginning is most likely an 
>> "s"-- though his "p's" are very variable.  Argh.
>>
>> "bra sam riques"?  Not likely!  [head banging on table]
>>
>> Thanks so much.  I really appreciate your help and a second set of eyes 
>> on the record,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:37:14 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I agree, the brides father is difficult...Here are the letters I see:  
>>> Bras, anriqzos...I'm sure some of these letters could be different, but, 
>>> its a starting point.  I used the LDS book, "Basic Portuguese Paleography"
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:38:51 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:

 Darn!  Thanks so much Aaron, but I believe Domingos Fernandes is the 
 Groom's father.   

 I'm having difficulty deciphering the Bride's father's name.  

 thanks again, I really appreciate your having a look,

 Linda

 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:24:06 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:

> Thanks so much!  I'll add that to my list of possibilities.  I've 
> stared at the name for so long that its solidified into nonsense letters. 
>  
>
> any further suggestions gratefully received,
>
> L.
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:13:48 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira 
> wrote:
>
>> I see Domingos Fernandes(z)
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

[linda]

Denise,

Thanks so much for your help with this record.  The names Saraiva and 
Escoto are both new to me.  I'll keep an eye out for them in other records 
in my search.  Many thanks also for looking at the wording in the 
dispensation. I'll make a note, and now I can move along feeling confident 
that I've got as much information from this record as I can!

with much appreciation,

Linda

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 4:26:33 AM UTC-7, Denise wrote:

> The word after Antonio da Fonseca is Saraiva, and it's part of his name. 
> The word after Catarina is also part of her name, it looks kind of like 
> Escoto. I'm not really sure. 
>
> The wording about the dispensation looks like the standard wording. 
>
> Denise D'Antona
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:12 PM, linda > 
> wrote:
>
>
> right side page, top record:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P48.html
>
>
> Hi Group,
>
> This is a clearly written, easy to read record, but there are three areas 
> I would like help with, please.
>
> The bride's parents each have a word following their names which I can't 
> make out.  I see the bride's information as:
>
> "...Maria da Fonseca, filha de An.to da Fonseca [unknown word/name] 
> defunto, e de sua molher Catarina [unknown word/name]..."
>
> Can anyone suggest what these two words/names are? (as a side question: if 
> these words are nouns or adjectives rather than names, why didn't the 
> groom's parents have similar?)
>
> The third area I'd appreciate clarification is with the note 
> about a dispensation of consanguinity.  I read that the consanguinity is of 
> the 4th degree, but my grasp of the language isn't sufficient to understand 
> whether the phrase preceding the list of witnesses contains any information 
> of interest or if it is simply standard wording for such cases.
>
> Thanks very much for help and suggestions,
>
> Linda
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Salt Lake City Conference in 2016 (Next year)

[Cheri Mello]

You will mail in the registration form and fee. I will post the link to
access the form probably in January.
Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Salt Lake City Conference in 2016 (Next year)

[Barbara Davis]

I only live an hour out of Salt Lake City.  Is there something specific I 
need to do to register for this conference?

Barb

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:03:15 AM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes).
>
> Next year, in 2016 (that's in 360-something days or the year two thousand 
> sixteen) we are going to have our genealogy conference and research trip 
> again. We will reserve rooms in the Plaza Hotel and have classes in both 
> the hotel and the Family History Library next door.
>
> So turn your calendars to NEXT year (that's 2016) and you can write these 
> dates on your calendar: Tuesday, Sept 6 through Friday, Sept 9, *2016*.
>
> Yes, this means you will be flying out on Labor Day. The Plaza will have a 
> group rate for us and will offer the same rate on either end of the above 
> dates for NEXT year for those who want to stay extra and research on their 
> own.
>
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriages

[Barbara Davis]

I wish that we were.  I am looking for surname Miranda, Adao, Guiterio, or 
Fernandes.  It would be great to hook up to someone with whom I could share 
info.  Good luck in your search.

On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 9:30:15 AM UTC-6, Sandra Valine Dauer 
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> Barbara Davis, my maternal great grandparents, Antonio Ferreira Berberea 
> and Marianna de Coracao de Jesus (Soares Sousa) from Biscoitos, what are 
> your husband's ancestors names?  Maybe we are connected?
> Sandra Valine Dauer
> Bakersfield California
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Barbara Davis  > wrote:
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>> I am trying to find marriage info for my husband's great grandparents.  
>> They came from Biscoitos and would have been born right around 1900.  Is 
>> there a way to access the civil registry on-line and look it up?  I have 
>> their names from his grandparents but no specific marriage dates or birth 
>> dates, do I would be needing to look at a range of dates.  Any information 
>> would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage and Birth records in the Azores after 1920

[Barbara Davis]

So I confess I am feeling a little stupid at this point.  Grandparents have 
passed and I am looking for the records, specifically birth certificates 
which will give further names.  I have gone to the link below and can't 
quite figure out how to navigate it.  I always get to where they want my 
digital certificate/card, which I don't have.  Any help?  I'd love to be 
able to request and pay online.

Barb

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> Hi Cheri and Barbara,
>
> the site is called  "Portal do Cidadao" 
>
>
> https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/web/instituto-dos-registos-e-do-notariado/registo-civil-certidao-de-nascimento
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
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>> Serreta is in the council of Angra. As for these recent records, I'm not 
>> sure of their rules. They may give you the 1954 record if you are named in 
>> that record. Maybe they have a rule about the record needs to be so many 
>> years old. I believe Margaret Vicente posted a link last week to a site to 
>> order recent vital records. Maybe she will be gracious enough to repost it. 
>> Read it carefully to make sure your request is within their rules and 
>> regulations. Every country is now concerned about invasion of privacy.
>> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration records

[George Medeiros]

Why is that the case that emigration records do not exist do you know ? George

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antoino Pacheco de Lima & Susana da Rosa de Puga 1617 Se, Angra, Terceira

['Denise' via Azores Genealogy]

The brides father is Bras Henriques. It's spelled the old way of Anriques in 
the record. 

Denise D'Antona

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Aaron Pereira  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Linda,
> I have some good news for you...it's a nice surprise.  Top, right side of 
> page. 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588_item1/P25.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:47:00 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>> Hi Aaron,
>> 
>> Yes, that's more or less what I'm seeing.  My brain takes turns between 
>> "Brasanrigues" and "Gaspar r[odr]igues"  
>> 
>> I think you're correct: the descending letter toward the end isn't a "g" but 
>> a "q".  It looks like the "q" in "Pacheqo" (four lines above) and not the 
>> "g" three lines below where he's written out the actual name "Gaspar 
>> Rodrigues".  That descending letter toward the beginning is most likely an 
>> "s"-- though his "p's" are very variable.  Argh.
>> 
>> "bra sam riques"?  Not likely!  [head banging on table]
>> 
>> Thanks so much.  I really appreciate your help and a second set of eyes on 
>> the record,
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
>> 
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:37:14 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I agree, the brides father is difficult...Here are the letters I see:  
>>> Bras, anriqzos...I'm sure some of these letters could be different, but, 
>>> its a starting point.  I used the LDS book, "Basic Portuguese Paleography"
>>> 
 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:38:51 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
 Darn!  Thanks so much Aaron, but I believe Domingos Fernandes is the 
 Groom's father.  
 
 I'm having difficulty deciphering the Bride's father's name. 
 
 thanks again, I really appreciate your having a look,
 
 Linda
 
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:24:06 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
> Thanks so much!  I'll add that to my list of possibilities.  I've stared 
> at the name for so long that its solidified into nonsense letters. 
> 
> any further suggestions gratefully received,
> 
> L.
> 
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:13:48 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:
>> I see Domingos Fernandes(z)
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

['Denise' via Azores Genealogy]

The word after Antonio da Fonseca is Saraiva, and it's part of his name. The 
word after Catarina is also part of her name, it looks kind of like Escoto. I'm 
not really sure. 

The wording about the dispensation looks like the standard wording. 

Denise D'Antona

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> On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:12 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> 
> right side page, top record:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P48.html
> 
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> This is a clearly written, easy to read record, but there are three areas I 
> would like help with, please.
> 
> The bride's parents each have a word following their names which I can't make 
> out.  I see the bride's information as:
> 
> "...Maria da Fonseca, filha de An.to da Fonseca [unknown word/name] defunto, 
> e de sua molher Catarina [unknown word/name]..."
> 
> Can anyone suggest what these two words/names are? (as a side question: if 
> these words are nouns or adjectives rather than names, why didn't the groom's 
> parents have similar?)
> 
> The third area I'd appreciate clarification is with the note about a 
> dispensation of consanguinity.  I read that the consanguinity is of the 4th 
> degree, but my grasp of the language isn't sufficient to understand whether 
> the phrase preceding the list of witnesses contains any information of 
> interest or if it is simply standard wording for such cases.
> 
> Thanks very much for help and suggestions,
> 
> Linda
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antoino Pacheco de Lima & Susana da Rosa de Puga 1617 Se, Angra, Terceira

[Aaron Pereira]

Hi Linda,
I have some good news for you...it's a nice surprise.  Top, right side of 
page. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588/TER-AH-SE-B-1583-1588_item1/P25.html




On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 9:47:00 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
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> Hi Aaron,
>
> Yes, that's more or less what I'm seeing.  My brain takes turns between 
> "Brasanrigues" and "Gaspar r[odr]igues"  
>
> I think you're correct: the descending letter toward the end isn't a "g" 
> but a "q".  It looks like the "q" in "Pacheqo" (four lines above) and not 
> the "g" three lines below where he's written out the actual name "Gaspar 
> Rodrigues".  That descending letter toward the beginning is most likely an 
> "s"-- though his "p's" are very variable.  Argh.
>
> "bra sam riques"?  Not likely!  [head banging on table]
>
> Thanks so much.  I really appreciate your help and a second set of eyes on 
> the record,
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 8:37:14 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I agree, the brides father is difficult...Here are the letters I see:  
>> Bras, anriqzos...I'm sure some of these letters could be different, but, 
>> its a starting point.  I used the LDS book, "Basic Portuguese Paleography"
>>
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:38:51 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>>>
>>> Darn!  Thanks so much Aaron, but I believe Domingos Fernandes is the 
>>> Groom's father.   
>>>
>>> I'm having difficulty deciphering the Bride's father's name.  
>>>
>>> thanks again, I really appreciate your having a look,
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:24:06 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>>>
 Thanks so much!  I'll add that to my list of possibilities.  I've 
 stared at the name for so long that its solidified into nonsense letters.  

 any further suggestions gratefully received,

 L.

 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:13:48 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira 
 wrote:

> I see Domingos Fernandes(z)
>


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