[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Ignacio Laranjo - UPEC Records
I have discovered another family line to search...and found another Ignacio. This time I am researching, Joao Ignacio Laranjo from the Island of Flores. He came to the US in 1883 I was able to find Joao on the UPEC records here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/fraternal-societies/fresno_23.pdf He is listed on the Fresno list - No. 28. I see that his father's name was crossed out as a dependent and replaced with his wife, Maria Luiza. (Her maiden name is Freitas). Can anyone help with his father's name? I am seeing Antonio J. Ignazio (?) and living on the island of Flores. That crossed out last name does not look like Laranjo to me. Help! :) Thank you, Caroline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***
Today was the first time I thought of looking at these records for my husband's side of the family and I was able to find info that had been hiding from me. I just had to know where to look! Thank you! Caroline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread
Happy Easter everyone! Caroline Gomes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hi Linda, Thank you for the letting me know about the marriage index. I was able to find the marriage record for Manuel's parents, Theotónio Ignácio Gomes & Luzia da Conceição - exciting! : http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1839-1874/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1839-1874_item1/P261.html - Right Side http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1839-1874/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1839-1874_item1/P262.html - Top left side I am able to pick out the names that I recognized but any help from anyone in the translation would be appreciated. Caroline On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 7:55:30 AM UTC-7, linda wrote: > > Caroline, > > Wonderful! As you are researching Terceira, you should download the > Terceira Marriage Index if you don't already have it. I'm having tech > issues, so can't provide a link, but it's here in the forum in two or three > threads and a search should bring it up. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Here is an update to the search for Manuel Enos Gomes: DOB: 03 October 1876 Baptized: 15 October 1876 Parish of: Santa Luzia, Angra do Heroísmo, Terceira Son of: Theotónio Ignácio Gomes Luzia da Conceição Paternal grandparents: Ignácio José Gomes Thomázia Victorina Maternal grandparents: Francisco de Souza Josefa da Conceição A brother of Manuel, also named Theotónio Ignácio Gomes, also came to the USA in 1906 and it looks like he went back to Terceira, married and came back with his wife in 1910. With help, I was able to find Theotónio's passport record for 1906 but still not able to locate Manuel's. The search continues... Caroline Gomes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hi all, Just an update on what I have found so far. I had been focusing my newspaper search to the Santa Cruz County and Stanislaus County areas, using Newspapers.com, Legacy.com and Archives.com . Thank you Cheri for the link to the Portuguese papers archives. Frank Gomes - Santa Cruz County is not able to find his birth certificate….looking under Francis, Francisco or Frank. I was able to obtain original marriage and death certs for him and they only list 'California' as his place of birth. Both of those documents have him listed as Frank Gomes. Everyone in the family says that he was born in Watsonville. So I will try Monterey County and even Stanislaus County, where his siblings were born. Manuel Enos Gomes We are still looking for an exact place of birth for him. I was able to find his death certificate. He was admitted to the Stockton State Hospital in 1940 and died there April 30, 1942. His draft card which has his mark (X) witnessed by someone (dated Sept 12, 1918), shows his date of birth as Oct 4, 1873 but his death certificate shows the date of birth as Sept 4, 1875. The informant listed on his death certificate were both Hospital Records and his son, Frank Gomes.. So we have a difference in the date of birth. He received a consent to marry in 1910 Mary A Brown of Watsonville. They were listed on the 1920 census in Stanislaus County as the head of household and listed coming to the USA in 1906. In the 1930 census of Stanislaus County, he was missing from the household as Mary A Gomes was listed as the head of household. Manuel reappears in the 1940 census as the head of household, living with his son, Frank and Frank's wife, and their daughter, Joann. Then a month later, it looks like he was admitted to Stockton State Hospital. Manuel was listed as divorced on the death certificate. Mary A. Silva Gomes did remarry in the early 1930's to a Jack Silva. I am now going to contact Stanislaus County to see about the divorce records of Manuel and Mary. I was able to get in touch with the California State archives about the stay at the State Hospital. As you all may know, there is a 75 year restriction on accessing medical records in the state archives, based on the date of last contact. So, April 2017 ends the restriction. But they were able to tell me that there was not any mention of a specific place of birth. Whew! Caroline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Enos = Inacio good to know! It seems like I am getting closer and closer...lol. Thank you all again for the suggestions and help! Caroline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Thank you, Celeste! I did find Manuel's draft card but he is listed as an "non declarant alien" and I have not found any naturalization documents, just in case. It looks he lived most of his time here in the USA in Stanislaus County and then passed in San Joaquin County in 1942. Caroline On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 3:05:33 PM UTC-8, celeste perry wrote: > > Caroline, I am not sure this will help; however, it may. > > I could not find the place of birth of my son-in-law's great-grandfather, > Francisco Inacio de Sousa. Someone told me that, if he had been > naturalized and voted, there were voter registration records for Alameda > County in California. I found the binders that housed all the voter > registration papers up to 1920. The binders, with all the names in > alphabetical order, were in something called the "Erickson Collection" and > the voter registration office told me that the "Erickson Collection" was at > Cal State Hayward (at the time) now East Bay. > > I found the person I was researching had voted 16 (I think) times and all > of the sheets except one just said Azores. The "odd" one said Flores, > Azores. Flores does not have many villages so I was able to look at each > village and I FOUND HIM! So there may be some hidden information in the > county where he lived here in California. > > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hi Cheri, Thank you for the link. I am on the hunt for any and all USA records for sure. I already received a response from Santa Cruz County for Frank's birth certificate (allegedly born in Watsonville) and they are not able to find it. I did find a small notice of a Superior Court Transactions from 1910 in a Santa Cruz, CA newspaper, where it shows that Manuel's MIL has given the court an affidavit of consent to marriage for Manuel Enos Gomes and Mary A Brown to be married (she was under 18 and he was older). But no announcement of the actually wedding. I will be calling the Superior Court on Monday to see what we have to do to see that document. Frank was born the next year in 1911. Caroline On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 9:20:09 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > Get every single record you can find in America. I looked at 25 different > things before I found my freguesia. > Here's a list of things you can try: https://goo.gl/vOijK0 > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
An update to my search! I think we have found Frank's father, Manuel Gomes from a draft card, a death certificate online and thru the census: Manuel Enos Gomes Born Sept 4, 1875 Died April 30, 1042 (Stockton, California) Immigrated here: 1906 There is still no mention of an actual island of where he is from. All of the documents either indicate Azores or just Portugal. I have tried going thru some passenger lists online but it seems so overwhelminglol. We have ordered Frank's birth certificate but I have a feeling that either Azores or Portugal will be listed as to where his father is from. So, what do I do next? :) Thanks! Caroline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hi Susan, Thanks for the info on checking with the fraternal organizations. I did not even think about that! Manuel and Mary/Maria's children were born in either Watsonville or the Ceres area. They are listed as dairy farmers in the Stanislaus Co censuses. We think Manuel died between 1940 - 1942. Thanks again! Caroline On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 12:18:36 AM UTC-8, Susan Vargas Murphy wrote: > Hello Caroline, > One of the few places that you can sometimes see the island of origin > listed is on the fraternal organization membership records. Kathy Cardoza > has a link to the ones that we have copied on her site. > > Where were all the children of Manuel and Maria born? You say your > father-in-law was born in Watsonville and so I looked at the records for > Watsonville. I saw two men by the name of Gomes who were from Flores, as > John Vasconcelos said, the name is common on Flores. > > But on page 36 (of our page numbers) there is a Manuel Pereira Gomes, > member 175, December 20, 1903, who was 35 years old, who was from > Flamengos, Faial. I will attach here for you to see how great these records > are. He is not a perfect fit, as he died June 1911, but if the family lived > in Watsonville, if it is not your Manuel, he may be a relative? His wife > was Maria Filomena (spelled differently). If the family moved, then you > could look at the UPEC records from where ever they were and maybe you will > find him? > > Susan Vargas Murphy > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hi John! Thank you for the info! We think our Manuel is Manuel E. Gomes. His oldest son, Frank (my husband's paternal grandfather) was born in Watsonville, as well as one or two siblings and the rest were born in the Modesto area. My husband does have Flores Island in his line but that is thru the Vierra side on his mother's side. The search continues! Caroline On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:38:44 PM UTC-8, John Vasconcelos wrote: > Caroline, > I have several Gomes cousins in central and costal California and we can > trace our ancestry all back to the Island of Flores in the Azores.I happen > to have a 4g grandfather Manuel Rodriques Gomes, born abt 1785, Fajazinha. > Flores married 1 nov 1762 to Maria Pimentel in Fajazinha Flores. Email me > if you want I can try to answer any questions you have. > John Vasconcelos > > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:45 PM, 'Caroline Gomes' via Azores Genealogy < > azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> I have not posted in a few years but have decided to dust off the family >> history research and continue on. >> >> I am looking to follow the paternal line of my father-in-law, Frank >> Gomes, who was born on March 1, 1911 in Watsonville, CA and died on October >> 22, 1989 in Concord, CA. His parents were Manuel Gomes (born around 1877 >> (?) - somewhere in the Azores) and Mary A. Brown. Frank's siblings are Eva >> Gomes, Louise Gomes, Florence Gomes, Manuel Gomes and Raymond Gomes. Frank >> has three children: JoAnn Gomes Taylor, Larry Gomes and Gary Gomes. >> >> We have been going thru Ancestry.com and see some of the various Census >> records from the Central Valley here in CA but all that we see listed as a >> birthplace for Manuel is Portugal with nothing specific. We are trying to >> figure out where Manuel's paternal line leads to in the Azores. >> >> Help! :) >> >> Caroline Gomes >> Northern California >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hi Linda! Thank you for those links! I have mainly been on the Ancestry.com site and forgot what resources are out there to check. I will have to see if there is a connection. We were recently told that Manuel Gomes passed before my FIL was born in 1941 so the dates are off but could have been remembered incorrectly? I did see Manuel listed as head of household in the 1920 Stanislaus census but was not in the 1930 census, even though his wife and children were. She was still listed as married and not as a widow. A mystery! We are still searching for where Manuel was born in the Azores. The search continues! Thanks again! Caroline On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 10:29:17 PM UTC-8, linda wrote: > Louie's right, find all the US documents you can first. > > You may already have seen these, but Eva's marriage: > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K82T-T77 > > has her father as "Manuel E. Gomes". Assuming that Eva's family was also > located in Modesto, and that her father died there or thereabouts, then > there are at least two possible leads for his death dates. Despite the > discrepancy in the dates, I suspect these are for the same man : > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPVR-YB3 > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKT-YZMZ <- this record > includes a birth date > > https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr=57631500 > > > You can also search the newspapers for obits which may have more info. > > hope this is helpful, > > :) > > Linda > > > > > On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 8:49:02 PM UTC-8, Caroline Gomes wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> >> I have not posted in a few years but have decided to dust off the family >> history research and continue on. >> >> I am looking to follow the paternal line of my father-in-law, Frank >> Gomes, who was born on March 1, 1911 in Watsonville, CA and died on October >> 22, 1989 in Concord, CA. His parents were Manuel Gomes (born around 1877 >> (?) - somewhere in the Azores) and Mary A. Brown. Frank's siblings are Eva >> Gomes, Louise Gomes, Florence Gomes, Manuel Gomes and Raymond Gomes. Frank >> has three children: JoAnn Gomes Taylor, Larry Gomes and Gary Gomes. >> >> We have been going thru Ancestry.com and see some of the various Census >> records from the Central Valley here in CA but all that we see listed as a >> birthplace for Manuel is Portugal with nothing specific. We are trying to >> figure out where Manuel's paternal line leads to in the Azores. >> >> Help! :) >> >> Caroline Gomes >> Northern California >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Thank you for the information! I have been checking Ancestry and found census records from 1920 and 1930 that were helpful - even though one of those had everyone spelled Gomez but all the other names matched...lol. I have messages out to family that hopefully have some of the vital records documents in their files. Thanks again! Caroline On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 11:02:13 AM UTC-8, Louie Avila wrote: > I went through a similar situation ... find every document in the US first > ... Wedding, Baptism, birth ... everything for Frank. > > It also appears that his parents might have come to the US before he was > born ... search Census records for the area in the 18 and 1900's. Also, > search for draft cards. Sometimes they'll list an island. > > If you find ship manifests, they might have details about what location > they disembarked. If so, you might be able to find a passport in the CCA. > > Good luck! > > Louie > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hi all! I have not posted in a few years but have decided to dust off the family history research and continue on. I am looking to follow the paternal line of my father-in-law, Frank Gomes, who was born on March 1, 1911 in Watsonville, CA and died on October 22, 1989 in Concord, CA. His parents were Manuel Gomes (born around 1877 (?) - somewhere in the Azores) and Mary A. Brown. Frank's siblings are Eva Gomes, Louise Gomes, Florence Gomes, Manuel Gomes and Raymond Gomes. Frank has three children: JoAnn Gomes Taylor, Larry Gomes and Gary Gomes. We have been going thru Ancestry.com and see some of the various Census records from the Central Valley here in CA but all that we see listed as a birthplace for Manuel is Portugal with nothing specific. We are trying to figure out where Manuel's paternal line leads to in the Azores. Help! :) Caroline Gomes Northern California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
