Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List membership, posts, researchers for hire, DNA fundraising

[Diane Lavely]

Here here, from a lurker, who doesn't have enough family info yet to do more.  

Sent from my iPad

> On May 18, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "\"E\" Sharp"  wrote:
> 
> I'm with Celeste, the other long timers and all the newbies on this list who 
> sincerely appreciates all the hard work Cheri has put into maintaining the 
> list in a friendly and professional manner...a great big THANK YOU, CHERI.
> 
> "E"
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
>> Doug and All Listers
>> 
>> I’ve read the recent posts by Doug Holmes and now this response by Cheri and 
>> felt like adding my two cents worth in…..
>> 
>> You know, this list works the same way that every other list I’ve ever 
>> belonged to does. That is, there could be hundreds or even a few thousand 
>> subscribers, but only a small percentage of people actually post. The rest 
>> lurk. They read and learn from the posts, but don’t post anything. I pretty 
>> much count myself in that lurker group. I read the posts (most of them) but 
>> rarely respond to any. That’s just human nature for most of us. I’m quite 
>> certain, though, that we are all learning from what is posted here. Further, 
>> I support Cheri 100%. She maintains this list, for the good of all of us. It 
>> is not an easy task to keep us all on task and the discussions pertinent to 
>> genealogy. She spends a lot of time and effort on this and deserves our 
>> respect and appreciation for that.
>> 
>> For those who may not know me, I am the coordinator of the Azores GenWeb 
>> site. I’m responsible for maintaining the site and providing content to it. 
>> It’s main purpose is to provide information and resources for beginning 
>> genealogists. On the main page (link below) you will find a section on 
>> Researchers for Hire. If you want to If you haven’t already checked it out, 
>> I invite you to do so. 
>> 
>> Doug, I think you should count me as one of those folks who are unclear 
>> about your intent by offering a “gift.” Frankly, I find it odd that you 
>> would do so and, to me, it   makes me uncomfortable. I’m not trying to 
>> suggest that this is a scam……. just that it almost seems that way but I’m 
>> sure that was not your intention?
>> 
>> As for the free DNA testing you are offering……. on the surface that seems 
>> very nice of you. But, I wonder …… is this something you will freely share 
>> with others? Or will you somehow figure out how to charge the rest of us for 
>> the information you are gleaning from it? I know from personal experience 
>> with you when I shared my husband’s ancestry from Terceira, that you like to 
>> accept what others send you to increase your database but offer nothing in 
>> return ….. unless we pay for it. Is that what this is about? I’m sure you 
>> have some supporters, but I’m not one of then. Not now. Not ever. You are 
>> all about the money. You don’t share anything at all, unless you get paid 
>> for your services. It’s just your way but you should, at least, be up front 
>> about it.
>> 
>> Kathy Cardoza
>> ~~~
>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>  http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>> 
>> Climb my Family Tree:
>>  http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html
>> ~~~
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Doug,
>>> 
>>> I've posted from time to time how many subscribers are on this list.  
>>> Anyone can find that number by going out to the Web board/Forum board and 
>>> clicking the "About" link.  The only  reason I mention it is to make people 
>>> aware that they are emailing 1200 people, some of whom are still working or 
>>> have limited time on their hands.  The list is active with genealogy posts 
>>> (sometimes 20 in a day) and I would like the posts to be meaningful for the 
>>> 1200 subscribers.  Reading a single post that says "Thanks!" is imposing on 
>>> people's time and is not meaningful nor helpful in someone's genealogical 
>>> search.  
>>> 
>>> After teaching kids and teenagers math and then adults DNA and genealogy, I 
>>> know how it works.  Teach something.  You get questions from some of the 
>>> audience (class) at the end.  People (even kids) raise their hand and ask 
>>> questions.  The vast majority take the information that was presented and 
>>> walk away with it.  Then there are the few people that come up and ask a 
>>> question in private.  Same thing with this list.  The vast majority of 
>>> people read, take the information, and walk away with it.  Some people 
>>> raise their hand (post) their question for all to see.  And a few email 
>>> privately to ask a question.  
>>> 
>>> Since your last post, I've received a number of emails about the underlying 
>>> intent of that post.  You'll give people a gift who email you?  Geez, 
>>> you're sounding like a used car salesman!  All of us who have been into 
>>> this awhi

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: São Roque do Rosto de Cão

[Diane Lavely]

Kudos!!!  Diane


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:37 PM, rcapodc  wrote:

>   Congrats Jose!  Rosemarie
>
>  *From:* Jose A Medeiros 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:58 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: São Roque do Rosto de Cão
>
>  Finally I did find my grandfather after this Summer unsuccessfully
> trying in S. Miguel
>
> On Thursday, 21 November 2013 08:21:08 UTC-5, Jose A Medeiros wrote:
>
>>  It is up
>> Going now try to find my grandfather
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Photography Studios in Acores

[Diane Lavely]

Thanks, Pam.  Diane

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> Number 2 is in the island of Terceira
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>
>> Hi all.  I'm looking for suggestions.  I have several very old family
>> photos which were taken in The Azores.  I'm looking for more information
>> about the photos.  Photographer's name, etc are as follows:
>>
>> 1.Photographia Artistica, Rua Esperanca - No. 19 - S. Miguel, Acores.
>> Comment printed on back also says "conservam se as duche,."  I think.  Also
>> on the back there are angels, and what looks almost like a coat of arms in
>> green and gold.
>>
>> 2.  Severini Joao D'Avellar, (Angra ao Heroism) 40 Rus De Santo Espirito.
>>
>> 3.  Photographis Artistica de A.J. Raposo, Rus de Esperanca 19, S.
>> Miguel, Acores.
>>
>> The only hint I see is S. Miguel - - which is huge for me, as I'm still
>> trying to determine which island(s) to research.  Any suggestions would be
>> greatly appreciated!!
>>
>> I also have many from photographers in Boston and Quincy, MA - - & have
>> written to the MA Historical Society for assistance with these.  Thanks.
>> Diane Lavely
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Photography Studios in Acores

[Diane Lavely]

Hi all.  I'm looking for suggestions.  I have several very old family
photos which were taken in The Azores.  I'm looking for more information
about the photos.  Photographer's name, etc are as follows:

1.Photographia Artistica, Rua Esperanca - No. 19 - S. Miguel, Acores.
Comment printed on back also says "conservam se as duche,."  I think.  Also
on the back there are angels, and what looks almost like a coat of arms in
green and gold.

2.  Severini Joao D'Avellar, (Angra ao Heroism) 40 Rus De Santo Espirito.

3.  Photographis Artistica de A.J. Raposo, Rus de Esperanca 19, S. Miguel,
Acores.

The only hint I see is S. Miguel - - which is huge for me, as I'm still
trying to determine which island(s) to research.  Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated!!

I also have many from photographers in Boston and Quincy, MA - - & have
written to the MA Historical Society for assistance with these.  Thanks.
Diane Lavely

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Match - Lavely, Kaminsky, Pimentel

[Diane Lavely]

I'm sorry about the Gedcom.  I'm a computer novice.  I have now ordered
FTM, and will have someone help me install it when it arrives, so that I
can create a GEDCOM.  Currently, all I have is my tree in .
I believe that I sent you an invitation, if you are interested.  It is a
very large tree.  However, the line we're talking about starts with me - -
my mother - - my maternal gm (mom-s mother) - - my mother's maternal
grandparents.  I look forward to trying to figure out the connection!!!  I
am very excited!!!  Thanks.  Diane

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

>  *Hi Diane,*
>
> * *
>
> *I just checked your matches and see we have a common match with my Dad
> and one that matches is with Maria Natalia Kaminsky. The problem is that
> neither of you have a GEDCOM (family Tree) posted that I can look at to
> compare for a common ancestor. You can look at the tree I posted for my dad
> to compare or you could send me a tree to look at. *
>
> * *
>
> *The reason I tested my dad is that both his parents came from Sao Miguel
> with his Father (my grandfather) from Ribeirinha (Ribeira Grande) and his
> mother (my grandmother) from the Bretanha.  Let me know what you have.*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *Rick***
>
> *Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
> Azores DNA Project***
>
> * *
>
> *Spring, Texas*
>
> * *
>
> *Researching Sao Miguel Azores, Riberinha, Riberia Grande, Bretanha,
> Achada Grande, Ponta  Delgada.*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *Rick***
>
> *Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
> Azores DNA Project***
>
> * *
>
> *Spring, Texas*
>
> * *
>
> *Researching Sao Miguel Azores, Riberinha, Riberia Grande, Bretanha,
> Achada Grande, Ponta  Delgada.*
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> ** **
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Testing companies

[Diane Lavely]

Hello again, Cheri.  You may recall that I had DNA testing done on my
mother - - hoping to find out information on her grandparents sho were from
the Azores.  Little info resulted.  I am also looking for information on my
father's great grandfather.  We had discussed requesting my uncle do DNA
(as the only living relative of that generation).  However, he did not
respond to my request and has subseuently passed.  Now, I am considering
having my brother do the DNA for that purpose.  Any advice?  Thanks.
Diane.


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I've got a couple of different emails here, so I'll try to clarify briefly.
>
> There are different DNA testing companies.  When you do a DNA test, you
> have to have the company that you bought it from assist you.
>
> Some DNA testing companies:
> Ancestry.com (they have like 3 people of Azores descent that I'm aware of).
> Family Tree DNA (the one that Rick and I are admins on.  And the current
> sale is with).  About 350+ people of Azorean descent.
> GeneTree
> Oxford Ancestors
> 23 and Me (also does medical testing)
> National Genographic (they can partner with Family Tree DNA and accepts
> their transfers)
>
> Companies can also buy each other out.  So some DNA testing companies
> don't exist anymore:
> DNA Heritage (bought out by Family Tree DNA)
> Relative Genetics (bought out by Ancestry)
> and more.
>
> And those are the ones that test DNA for genealogy purposes.  There are
> also DNA testing companies for paternity in a court of law, crime labs,
> medical DNA testing and probably more.
>
> So, just to clarify, the Azores DNA Project is housed at Family Tree DNA
> (FTDNA).  They are having a sale on Family Finder that I have been speaking
> about.  No, Ancestry.com is not having a sale (that I'm aware of).  No, a
> log in from Oxford Ancestors cannot be typed into Family Tree DNA and have
> it work. A DNA test from FTDNA would need to be purchased.
>
> Hope this clarifies.  I've had a couple of emails about this (different
> testing companies).  The Azores DNA project is on Family Tree DNA (FTDNA).
> www.ftdna.com
>
> Cheri Mello
> Azores DNA Project housed at
> Family Tree DNA
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What time of the year is best to go to the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

I am green with envy!!!  I'd love to be able to go to the Azores!!!  Diane

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:14 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Since I have a lot of family in Lisbon, we went back and forth to the
> Azores a couple of years ago.  No problem.  Actually, we started out in
> London and then to Lisbon and then to the Azores.  I think in May in Sao
> Miguel there is a big festa, can't remember which one.  I know we missed it
> by a couple of days when we were there and I was so sorry afterwards but my
> family in Lisbon had planned a big party for us so had to be there on a
> certain date.  You might want to check Festas in Pico as that seems to be
> where you will be spending most of your time.  I made all of my
> reservations online on SATA site.  I recently read there are going to be
> some changes with travel to the Azores in the future but don't know if/when
> it will happen.
>
> "E"
> PS:  You will love it!! and the people!!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake Genealogy Trip

[Diane Lavely]

Ho w exciting!!!  Sounds wonderful!!!  Looking forward to more details.
Diane

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I thought I posted just to Elaine.  Guess it's time to repost.
>
> Azores Genealogy Conference and Research Trip,
> to be held at the Salt Lake Plaza Hotel in Salt Lake City, Utah,
> from Tuesday, April 10 through Friday, April 13, 2012
>
> I received the contracts about 2 weeks ago.  So it's pretty much
> finalized.  I'll put the finishing touches on the schedule THIS WEEK and
> will then post all the details.  Rosemarie and I need to revamp the CCA
> lecture since they'll have a new web site (hopefully it will be up and
> running in 6 months) and Family Search is going to have something new.  We
> will let Mike Hall from Family Search give that lecture though.
>
> We'll run this 2 ways.
> 1) The conference:  The participant will pay the fee and attend most or all
> of the lectures.
> 2) Research trip:  The participant pretty much doesn't want our help and
> just wants to hang out with a bunch of Azorean researchers.  The discounted
> room rate will still apply.  The conference fee will not, since the
> participant will not be attending lectures.  But we'll have a welcome and a
> goodbye with a little food, so there will be a small fee for that.
>
> More details to follow.
> Cheri & Rosemarie
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>
>>
>> What is the Salt Lake Trip???  Diane
>>
>>   On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>>> Salt Lake will be April 10 -13 (Tues through Fri).  Since this is the
>>> first time Rosemarie and I have ever had our spring breaks coincide, we
>>> decided to try the April dates.  It probably won't happen again until
>>> Rosemarie retires.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:14 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cheri,
>>>>
>>>> Is the 2012 Salt Lake trip still on? Not sure if I can make it as I have
>>>> a grandson graduating from college but can you refresh the dates for me. I
>>>> am following the airlines, just in case, to find a reasonable airfare. Just
>>>> got a $35 +tax each way from Sacramento to Orange County in Jan.
>>>> 2012unheard of! There was also $250 +tax round trip from West Coast to
>>>> East Coast. For both of these I think you had to complete the trip by Feb.
>>>> 19 or some such date. I believe this offer is over but I am hoping if I can
>>>> make it to SLC, I might catch one of these great fares along the way.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake Genealogy Trip

[Diane Lavely]

What is the Salt Lake Trip???  Diane

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Salt Lake will be April 10 -13 (Tues through Fri).  Since this is the first
> time Rosemarie and I have ever had our spring breaks coincide, we decided to
> try the April dates.  It probably won't happen again until Rosemarie
> retires.
>
> Cheri
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:14 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> Is the 2012 Salt Lake trip still on? Not sure if I can make it as I have a
>> grandson graduating from college but can you refresh the dates for me. I am
>> following the airlines, just in case, to find a reasonable airfare. Just got
>> a $35 +tax each way from Sacramento to Orange County in Jan. 2012unheard
>> of! There was also $250 +tax round trip from West Coast to East Coast. For
>> both of these I think you had to complete the trip by Feb. 19 or some such
>> date. I believe this offer is over but I am hoping if I can make it to SLC,
>> I might catch one of these great fares along the way.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What to do when you have a list problem (receiving/sending email to the group)

[Diane Lavely]

HOpe you are well, Cheri!!  Diane

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

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> 1) Cheri Mello, gfscherim at gmail.com
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First, middle names for Azorean people

[Diane Lavely]

How do we ever find anything??  Diane

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, eileenle...@seleite.com <
eileenle...@seleite.com> wrote:

> This thread has been very interesting and opened my eyes to new
> possibilities. It takes great cleverness sometimes to find our Azorean
> ancestors!
>
> My husband's 2nd grgrandfather was Antonio Pedro Leite, and most if not all
> of his 5 sons took the "Pedro" as a "middle" name.  But when son (our
> gr-uncle) Joao Pedro Leite came to the states, he alternated between John
> Peter Leite and John Leite Peters. His children and grandchildren are
> Peters', not Leites!
>
> Finding them was pure serendipity, including my brother-in-law remembering
> his grandfather had mentioned back in the 1980's that he had cousins named
> "Peters", which made no sense when he first told me.
>
> Eileen Leite
>
>
>
>
> Original Message:
> -
> From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:47:57 -0700
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First, middle names for Azorean people
>
>
> I can cite another example of an added "alcubha" which occurs in my family
> tree, that of using the father's first name. as an added alcunha. I have an
> ancestor, Antonio de Freitas Eduardo. His father was Eduardo de Freitas. In
> Fajazinha Flores, this alcunha of Eduardo has evolved into a surname. Some
> members of this family who have immigrated to the US now use Edwards as
> their surname.
> ohn Vasconcelos
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:57 AM, John Raposo  wrote:
>
> > In the parish registers in the 18th century it was not uncommon to add
> the
> > person's profession to the last name (without commas) in order to
> > distinguish António Carvalho Alfaiate from António Cavalho Pedreiro and
> > António Carvalho Serralheiro, all living in the same village in the same
> > time period and maybe married to women all named Maria de Jesus.
> Alfaiate,
> > Pedreiro and Serralheiro are not their family names although sometimes
> these
> > names became the alcunhas for their children and their decendants.
> Sometims
> > people think they have hit a brick wall in tracing back because they look
> > for a marriage of António Carvalho Pedreiro and Maria de Jesus, (which
> they
> > cannot find) when they should be looking for the marriage of Antonio
> > Carvalho, a stone mason, and Maria de Jesus, a houswife.
> >
> > John Miranda Raposo
> >
> > *From:* celeste perry 
> > *To:* "azores@googlegroups.com" 
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2011 7:03 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First, middle names for Azorean people
> >
> > Denis,
> >I believe this is the reason the "nick-names" came into use.  One
> Manuel
> > lived and he was called, "Manuel from the end of the road."  I don't know
> > the Portuguese word for end of the road; however, I think you can see one
> > way of identifying one Manuel.
> >As for the Maria thing for the girls, I feel that 90 percent of girls
> > were named Maria and once they were old enough to move about the village,
> > they used their first and middle name or sometimes just their middle name
> > that might be less common.
> >
> > Celeste, Hayward, CA
> > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
> >  *From:* Denis Meals 
> > *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2011 12:50 PM
> > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] First, middle names for Azorean people
>  >
> > Listers:
> >
> > I read with interest the recent discussion regarding the
> 'end-of-the-line'
> > surnames.  Dano on 1 Oct. spoke to this, and I second his comments.
> >
> > However, I now have a question to pose to our listers, and ask for their
> > opinions.
> >
> > Azorean first and second names seem to be restricted to only perhaps 12
> > commonly used, i.e. Manoel, Jose, Antonio, Joao, Maria, Jacintha,
> Joaquina,
> > Umbelina, being perhaps most common.  Given that most families had many
> > children means that within a community, there would have been many named
> > Manoel, for example.  For the older still unmarried, at least several
> named
> > Manoel Jose or Maria Jacintha.
> >
> > How then did they distinguish between the many same-named individuals
> > within their immediate community, as well as adjacent villages?
> >
> > Denis
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azorean names in Cambridge, MA, USA

[Diane Lavely]

My great grandparents - - Jose M. Soares and Maria Joaquina (???) Soares
lived in Somerville, on Columbia St.  Anyone make any connections??  Diane

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Shirley Allegre wrote:

> Hi Everyone:  I just have to mention that my maternal grandfather, Joe De
> Mello added on PINE in 1915.  So in my genealogy program I have five JOE DE
> MELLO PINEs.  Thank God my grandfather's uncle Joe Mello didn't add Pine as
> well.
> Shirley in CA
> - Original Message - From: "yvonne domings" 
> To: "Azores Genealogy" 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:53 PM
>
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azorean names in Cambridge, MA, USA
>
>
> East Cambridge has some great Azorean restaurants (Portugalia, Atasca,
> Cafe Portugal) and bakeries. Many Azoreans also moved to Somerville,
> which is right near east Cambridge. Many moved to Hudson as well. If
> you can't find information on a name, try Anglicizing the name. For
> example, my grandmother-in-law was Lipoldinha (spelled several
> different ways), but called herself Pauline. If you say it fast with
> an English pronunciation you can see where Pauline came from. I was
> fortunate to find this early on when she was marrying my grandfather-
> in-law João (called himself John). That was not as much of a stretch.
> Otherwise, I never would have known.  What I do is try to follow a
> hunch out until I have enough confirming evidence to either prove it
> right or wrong. I'm no trained geneologist, but I think you will have
> to do that when you hit a dead end. It is so frustrating. I can see
> why people give up. The Maria thing is equally maddening not to
> mention the changing surnames. OY!!
>
> Yvonne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean names in Cambridge, MA, USA

[Diane Lavely]

Did you see any SOARES???  I'm researching Jose M. Soares and Maria Joaquina
(???) Soares - - my great grandparents.  My grandmother was born in
Cambridge. Thanks for the info!!  Diane

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:38 AM, bbffrrpp  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to remind researchers how many Azoreans came to
> Massachusetts, and specifically to Boston and Cambridge, MA  (side-by-
> side on both sides of the Charles River). We visited the
> "Cambridge Cemetery"  yesterday,  and saw so many Portuguese surnames
> on the stones.
>
> My (now) husband's grandparents came over to MA/US ~1905.I don't
> know where Antonio PACHECO (age 20) first lived on arriving, but very
> soon after he was in Cambridge.Elsie MOURA (age 12) went to a
> family on Beacon Hill in Boston as a servant. They married in
> Cambridge in 1911.
>
> I was not able to find out if "Tony" came over with relatives.
> Around 1910 Elsie arranged for her mother and 4 younger (?) siblings
> to come over. Just in time for her to marry Tony in 1911 in
> Cambridge.  Elsie's sister, Carolina, married into a large
> MEDEIROS family.   Their sister, Rosa, married into a PERRY family
> (probably PEREIRA).  I have never been able to find out whether
> their brothers, Frank and Manny MOURA, were already married when they
> came over,  or whether they were younger than their sisters.
>
> I don't know what happened to Elsie's father.But, one guess is
> that he went to Brooklyn, NY,  when his wife and children went to
> Boston, MA.  Francisco MOURA was reported to have been a whaler.
>
> Over the years, I have met other people with Portuguese names;   for
> instance, I grew up with a step-grandfather, who was half-Portuguese,
> and his last name was FRANCIS.And, I knew a lady who had married
> into the RESENDES family of Cambridge, MA.
>
> And, many families moved a little north into the City of Lowell,
> MA. There are Portuguese neighborhoods in both cities, and both
> have a St. Anthony's Church.  I think the other place where is a
> Portuguese neighborhood is Hudson, MA.(?)
>
> I know that Tony PACHECO came from just outside of Ponta Delgada.
> The MOURA family came from Sao Miguel,  but I'm told the name probably
> originated in Santa Maria.
>
> Betty  (near Lowell, MA, USA)
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

[Diane Lavely]

You found some records for me  earlier, Eric.  But there were no
grandparents names nor was Maria Joaquina's maiden name found. I am still
looking.  I also plan to do DNA testing on my mother (her granddaughter).
Thanks.  Diane

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:57 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Diane,
>
> Did they have children born in MA  to 1915 as their birth records may be
> online and may give the grandparent's names. Or were they married in MA
> before 1915?  This info might also help find the ship's manifest...and
> Passportes???
>
> ""E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sacramento Area Book Presentation

[Diane Lavely]

Thanks,Mary Ann.

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:17 AM,  wrote:

> **
> I am checking with Marila about the cost of the book and I will get back to
> you.
>
> Mary Ann
>
>  In a message dated 7/30/2011 5:57:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> arlene...@sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>Mary Ann,
>
> Won't be able to attend (am having surgery the following day) but would
> very much like to buy the book.  Do you have any idea of the cost so I can
> get the money to you?
>
> Hope you and the girls had a great time at Music Circus.
>
> Thanks, Arlene
>
> --- On *Sat, 7/30/11, cakemom...@aol.com * wrote:
>
>
> From: cakemom...@aol.com 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sacramento Area Book Presentation
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 12:24 PM
>
>
> For anyone in the Sacramento area, The Portuguese Cultural and Historical
> Society will be presenting the book  * **Acores: Nove Ilhas, Uma
> Historia/Azores: Nine Islands, One History,* by Susana Goulart Costa at St
> Elizabeth Church Social Hall on Sunday Aug. 7 at 2:00pm in the afternoon.
> The book will be presented by Rosa Neves Simas and we will have the *book
> **Acores: Nove Ilhas, Uma Historia/Azores: Nine Islands, One History,* by
> Susana Goulart Costa available for purchase as well as other book
> published by PHPC.  If anyone is interested in attending, please let me know
> since we are also hosting an ice cream social.  This is a free event.
> Please email me off the list if you would like to attend.
>
> Mary Ann
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sacramento Area Book Presentation

[Diane Lavely]

I'm in Palm Springs, wish I could be there!!!  Is there a way I could
purchase one of the books??  Thanks.  Diane

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:24 PM,  wrote:

> **
>   
> For anyone in the Sacramento area, The Portuguese Cultural and Historical
> Society will be presenting the book  * **Acores: Nove Ilhas, Uma
> Historia/Azores: Nine Islands, One History,* by Susana Goulart Costa at St
> Elizabeth Church Social Hall on Sunday Aug. 7 at 2:00pm in the afternoon.
> The book will be presented by Rosa Neves Simas and we will have the *book
> **Acores: Nove Ilhas, Uma Historia/Azores: Nine Islands, One History,* by
> Susana Goulart Costa available for purchase as well as other book
> published by PHPC.  If anyone is interested in attending, please let me know
> since we are also hosting an ice cream social.  This is a free event.
> Please email me off the list if you would like to attend.
>
> Mary Ann
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores history

[Diane Lavely]

Cheri - - you are a goldmine of information!!!  Thanks for all your
contributions!  Diane

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Steve,
>
> What do you mean by somewhat recently?  Within the last 5 years?  Within
> the last 18 years?  50 years?
>
> For the longest time, the only book in English was "A History of the Azores
> Islands" by James H. Guill, published in 1991.  He is deceased and his
> daughter holds the copyright and right now, does not plan on republishing.
> You might try your local library or see if they can interlibrary loan it to
> your library.  I think the original price was about $28 and I've seen the
> book go for upwards of $400 on Ebay.  The book is 662 pages long.
>
> Within the last few years (maybe only 1 - 2 years) another book came out.
> It was in both English and Portuguese and smaller.  I don't own this book,
> but I saw it.  The author joined the list, posted she wrote a book and left
> the list.  I think this is her web site: http://historiadosacores.t35.com/
>
> Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] picture

[Diane Lavely]

This is a picture of (from left to right):  Filomena (maiden name unknown)
Evangello (born 1845); her husband, Joseph Machado Evangello, (born
1848); and her sister, Maria Joaquina (maiden namd unknown) Soares (born
1842 on Flores Island, Azores).  Diane

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage dispensations

[Diane Lavely]

Hooray!!

Diane Lavely
Researching Soares, Costa, Evangello

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yippee!
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Costa, Soares/Sears, etc Photos from Boston, Massachusetts and some from Sao Miguel

[Diane Lavely]

Thanks, Edgar!!!  This is Diane.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, eric edgar  wrote:

>
> Cheri,
>
> I've been helping someone on the list with a Soares family and have vital
> records for Matilda Sears and Filomena Evangelho. I'll take a look at who it
> was for and get back with more info.
>
> Eric Edgar
>   On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
>> Let me repost this for Diane L under its own thread.  It was attached to
>> the DNA thread and this posting doesn't have anything to do with DNA.
>>
>> Cheri
>> 
>> Diane L (allevaconrad at gmail.com) says:
>> I'm looking through the old pictures, with the names that my grandmother
>> has on them.  I found the following:
>>   Mary Costa - - sister of three boys, Enos, Andrew and Joseph (taken
>> at Bussell, Adams Bldg., Quincy, MA.
>>   Teresa Costa (Mary's sister) taken at Bussell as above)
>>   (notes on the pics say that both Mary and Teresa were "old
>> maids.")
>>   Enos Costa lll  (taken at Beckford Photo, 43 Winter St., Boston, MA.
>>   Enos Costa (which one, it doesn't say) - - "son of Joseph Soares'
>> sister" (taken at Bekford's Photo Studio,
>>   43 Winter St., Boston, MA
>>   Joseph - - "son of Enos Costa Jr." (taken at Beckford Photo as
>> above).
>>   Joseph Costa "brother of Enos." (also taken at Beckford's in Boston,
>> MA.
>>   Filomena Evangello & Matilda Sears (Soares) (taken at Cook's
>> Photographer, Tremont St., Boston, MA
>>   Enos (Costa?) taken at Bussell's in Quincy, MA.
>>   Enos in Quincy again (no photographer name on photo)
>>   Thomas M. Soares (taken by J. Frazier Photographer, 111 Royal St.,
>> opposite St. Louis Hotel, New Orleans
>>
>> And a few others which have only the following information:
>>   tin type glued onto backboard which has the name, "Charles Jiereira
>> de Sboza"
>>   tin type glued onto backboard which had the name, "Jose Jiereira de
>> Sboza"
>>  An old picture of a man taken at McCosker, 85 Hanover St., Boston,
>> MA.
>>  2 photos, both of a woman, taken ag Severino Joao D'Avellar, 49
>> Rue De Santo Espirito 49
>>  1 photo of a boy taken at Photogrphia Artistica De A..J. Raposo, rua
>> de Esperanca-49, St. Miguel, Acores
>>  1 photo of a young man taken at Photographia Artistica Rus Esperanca,
>> S. Miguel, Acores
>>
>> I also have severl tin types, which appear to be Portugues, but with no
>> identifying information on them.
>>
>> Does anyone make any connections with any of these people???  I'll try to
>> find time to get them put on a disc and enter them on the site.  Thanks.
>> Diane
>>
>>
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>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another DNA sale (mostly for new orders) from Family Tree DNA (through Thursday, July 21, 11:59pm CDT)

[Diane Lavely]

Cheri - - I'm looking through the old pictures, with the names that my
grandmother has on them.  I found the following:
  Mary Costa - - sister of three boys, Enos, Andrew and Joseph (taken at
Bussell, Adams Bldg., Quincy, MA.
  Teresa Costa (Mary's sister) taken at Bussell as above)
  (notes on the pics say that both Mary and Teresa were "old
maids.")
  Enos Costa lll  (taken at Beckford Photo, 43 Winter St., Boston, MA.
  Enos Costa (which one, it doesn't say) - - "son of Joseph Soares'
sister" (taken at Bekford's Photo Studio,
  43 Winter St., Boston, MA
  Joseph - - "son of Enos Costa Jr." (taken at Beckford Photo as above).
  Joseph Costa "brother of Enos." (also taken at Beckford's in Boston,
MA.
  Filomena Evangello & Matilda Sears (Soares) (taken at Cook's
Photographer, Tremont St., Boston, MA
  Enos (Costa?) taken at Bussell's in Quincy, MA.
  Enos in Quincy again (no photographer name on photo)
  Thomas M. Soares (taken by J. Frazier Photographer, 111 Royal St.,
opposite St. Louis Hotel, New Orleans

And a few others which have only the following information:
  tin type glued onto backboard which has the name, "Charles Jiereira de
Sboza"
  tin type glued onto backboard which had the name, "Jose Jiereira de
Sboza"
 An old picture of a man taken at McCosker, 85 Hanover St., Boston, MA.
 2 photos, both of a woman, taken ag Severino Joao D'Avellar, 49 Rue De
Santo Espirito 49
 1 photo of a boy taken at Photogrphia Artistica De A..J. Raposo, rua de
Esperanca-49, St. Miguel, Acores
 1 photo of a young man taken at Photographia Artistica Rus Esperanca,
S. Miguel, Acores

I also have severl tin types, which appear to be Portugues, but with no
identifying information on them.

Does anyone make any connections with any of these people???  I'll try to
find time to get them put on a disc and enter them on the site.  Thanks.
Diane
'
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:

> Thanks again, Cheri, for all the information!!!  I ordered one kit today
> for my mother, andhave emailed my uncle requesting that he participate, if
> he is willing.  If so, I will order another kit for him.  I think that some
> of the old pictures tha t my grandmother had are of people named "Mello."
> Perhaps we will turn out to be related!!!
>
> I assume from your phone area code that you are in Los Angeles??  Thanks.
> Diane
>
>   On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
>>  Here's another question that I'm getting, so I thought I would copy this
>> info from before.
>>
>> Question:  What do you get with the Family Finder test?
>>
>> Your personal page at FTDNA will have its own Family Finder section.
>>
>> One section is your Matches (see List of Matches screen shot above).
>> Since I don't have everyone's permission to post their names, I blocked out
>> most of it except Shirley Allegre who is on this list.  The notes in red in
>> the screen shot are mine.  I'll just use Shirley since she's my dad's
>> Portuguese match (the others are my dad's American half.  My dad is 50%
>> Portuguese, so I used his DNA for Family Finder.  He will get more
>> Portuguese matches than I will, since I'm only 25% Portuguese).
>>
>> My dad matches Shirley Jane Cambra Allegre (the buttons under her name
>> give me her email, allow me to make notes, or view her Gedcom).  The math
>> and science (and there's A LOT) suggests my dad and Shirley are 2nd to 4th
>> cousins.  They fine tune it more in the next column and suggest that they
>> are 3rd cousins.  That's based on the fact that in the next column shows
>> that they share a total of 105.71 cM (centoMorgans - a genetic unit of
>> measure).  The longest block is 16.76 cMs long.  Since I know my dad and
>> Shirley are 4th cousins, once removed, I assigned that (there's so much
>> intermarriage in my lines and Shirley's that it screwed up the algorhythmn
>> slightly).  Shirley's surnames should have appeared, but they didn't (you
>> can see where my dad has his American lines bolded where the surnames
>> match).  I'm guessing it's because I put my "de" for "de Mello" in the given
>> name field in my program and Shirley may put it in her surname field or
>> pre-surname field.
>>
>> The screen shot titled "Where Dad Matches Shirley" shows the 24 locations
>> where my dad and Shirley match.  This is the Barilla brand that fused
>> together with the other brands.  It's probably a lot of our Antonio de Mello
>> line with a 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another DNA sale (mostly for new orders) from Family Tree DNA (through Thursday, July 21, 11:59pm CDT)

[Diane Lavely]

That would be cool.  My mother is in Portland, OR and has dementia.
However, I think I might be able to swing that.  Thanks.  Diane

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Diane,
>
> If your goal is to concentrate only on your mother's mother's mother's
> line, then yes, mtDNA will work perfectly for that.
>
> If you want to pick up your mother's mother's mother's father though, you'd
> need Family Finder.
>
> If your mom is alive though, you'd want her to take the test (you can get
> one generation more since she is a generation older).
>
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA volunteer admin
> Azores DNA project
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>
>> So Cheri, If I'm female and I've never done this before, and I know that
>> my mother's mother's mother and father both came from the Azores, I should
>> order the mtDNA tp start with???  Diane
>>
>>   On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>>>  In case anyone missed my post about Family Finder and how it works (and
>>> my analogy to spaghetti) here it is:
>>>
>>> About 10 years ago, the only DNA that could be used for genealogy was the
>>>
>>> Y-DNA or the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA).   A little over a year ago,
>>> autosomal DNA (Family Tree DNA calls it the Family Finder test) came into
>>>
>>> the picture.  So now there are 3 types of DNA tests for genealogy.
>>>
>>> I'll try this analogy (hope it works).  Your DNA is like a box of
>>> spaghetti.  Have you ever opened a box of standard spaghetti to find a
>>> stray
>>> piece of the flatter noodle one (fettuccine or linguine)?  Or maybe a
>>> random
>>> macaroni snuck in there.
>>>
>>> The box of spaghetti represents the 22 pairs of your autosomal DNA.
>>>  There
>>> is only one other pair - the 23rd pair which are the sex chromosomes
>>> (where
>>> the Y makes a man a man).  You can pretend that's the fettuccine or
>>> linguine
>>> that snuck into the box.  And you can pretend that the macaroni is the
>>> mitochondrial DNA.
>>>
>>> You can look at that lost piece of fettuccine or linguine and know
>>> EXACTLY
>>> where it came from.  It looks different than the regular spaghetti.
>>>  That's
>>> like the Y-chromosome which men have.  We know EXACTLY where a man got
>>> his Y
>>> from:  his father, who got it from his father who got it from his father.
>>>
>>> It's the top of your pedigree chart.  Since I'm not a man, I made my dad
>>> test his Y-chromosome.  So I got George to Manuel to Jose to Vitorino to
>>> Antonio de Mello, etc.  You get the picture.  So when my dad gets a
>>> match,
>>> I'll know which line it is on.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, we can pretend that the piece of macaroni that found
>>> its
>>> way into the spaghetti box is the mtDNA.  Both men and women inherit that
>>>
>>> and we know exactly how that's inherited:  the mother's mother's mother's
>>>
>>> line or the bottom of the pedigree chart.  The mtDNA is usually better
>>> used
>>> for anthropology type research more than genealogy, but we've had a
>>> couple
>>> of mtDNA matches in the Azores project.
>>>
>>> But the rest of that box is just spaghetti.  They all look the same.
>>> Suppose you went to the store and bought your favorite brand, Rozoni (I
>>> have
>>> no idea how well known some of these brands are, so bear with me).  As
>>> you
>>> start to cook for this dinner party, you realize you need more spaghetti.
>>>
>>> So you send your significant other to the store and the end result is
>>> Barilla brand.  It's all spaghetti, so you throw it in the pot and cook
>>> it
>>> up.  And none of your guests know that you used two boxes, each a
>>> different
>>> brand.
>>>
>>> Autosomal DNA (Family Finder) is spaghetti from Rozoni, Barilla, De
>>> Cecco,
>>> Prince, etc.  Unless you are some kind of spaghetti connoisseur, you
>>> can't
>>> tell the difference.  You inherit half of your DNA from your mom and half
>>>
>>> from your dad.  Each one of your parents got half from their parents.
>>>  But
>>> it's not labelled.  And it actually recombines (Rozoni breaks off and
>>> fuses
>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another DNA sale (mostly for new orders) from Family Tree DNA (through Thursday, July 21, 11:59pm CDT)

[Diane Lavely]

So Cheri, If I'm female and I've never done this before, and I know that my
mother's mother's mother and father both came from the Azores, I should
order the mtDNA tp start with???  Diane

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> In case anyone missed my post about Family Finder and how it works (and my
> analogy to spaghetti) here it is:
>
> About 10 years ago, the only DNA that could be used for genealogy was the
> Y-DNA or the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA).   A little over a year ago,
> autosomal DNA (Family Tree DNA calls it the Family Finder test) came into
> the picture.  So now there are 3 types of DNA tests for genealogy.
>
> I'll try this analogy (hope it works).  Your DNA is like a box of
> spaghetti.  Have you ever opened a box of standard spaghetti to find a
> stray
> piece of the flatter noodle one (fettuccine or linguine)?  Or maybe a
> random
> macaroni snuck in there.
>
> The box of spaghetti represents the 22 pairs of your autosomal DNA.  There
> is only one other pair - the 23rd pair which are the sex chromosomes (where
>
> the Y makes a man a man).  You can pretend that's the fettuccine or
> linguine
> that snuck into the box.  And you can pretend that the macaroni is the
> mitochondrial DNA.
>
> You can look at that lost piece of fettuccine or linguine and know EXACTLY
> where it came from.  It looks different than the regular spaghetti.  That's
>
> like the Y-chromosome which men have.  We know EXACTLY where a man got his
> Y
> from:  his father, who got it from his father who got it from his father.
> It's the top of your pedigree chart.  Since I'm not a man, I made my dad
> test his Y-chromosome.  So I got George to Manuel to Jose to Vitorino to
> Antonio de Mello, etc.  You get the picture.  So when my dad gets a match,
> I'll know which line it is on.
>
> On the other hand, we can pretend that the piece of macaroni that found its
>
> way into the spaghetti box is the mtDNA.  Both men and women inherit that
> and we know exactly how that's inherited:  the mother's mother's mother's
> line or the bottom of the pedigree chart.  The mtDNA is usually better used
>
> for anthropology type research more than genealogy, but we've had a couple
> of mtDNA matches in the Azores project.
>
> But the rest of that box is just spaghetti.  They all look the same.
> Suppose you went to the store and bought your favorite brand, Rozoni (I
> have
> no idea how well known some of these brands are, so bear with me).  As you
> start to cook for this dinner party, you realize you need more spaghetti.
> So you send your significant other to the store and the end result is
> Barilla brand.  It's all spaghetti, so you throw it in the pot and cook it
> up.  And none of your guests know that you used two boxes, each a different
>
> brand.
>
> Autosomal DNA (Family Finder) is spaghetti from Rozoni, Barilla, De Cecco,
> Prince, etc.  Unless you are some kind of spaghetti connoisseur, you can't
> tell the difference.  You inherit half of your DNA from your mom and half
> from your dad.  Each one of your parents got half from their parents.  But
> it's not labelled.  And it actually recombines (Rozoni breaks off and fuses
>
> together with Barilla).  OK, I know that spaghetti doesn't do that in real
> life, but hopefully, it will help you get the picture.
>
> So when my dad and Shirley Allegre matched with their Family Finder results
>
> (the spaghetti or autosomal DNA), we didn't know where.  It's just a tangle
>
> of spaghetti.  Since my dad and Shirley both have Antonio de Mello in their
>
> tree, we knew some of the matching was coming from there.  Marge Perry also
>
> matches both my dad and Shirley.  It was more distant and we don't know
> exactly how, but we have an idea it has something to do with Vila Franca.
> More research will tell.
>
> So, if you are an existing FTDNA customer, you can upgrade to more Y-DNA
> markers (the fettuccine or linguine) which is the father's father's
> father's
> line.  You can also purchase the Family Finder (spaghetti) at the reduced
> rate (you'll match people, but it'll take some work with your tree to
> figure
> it out).
>
> The only 2 tests on sale for NEW customers would be the Y-12 marker with
> Family Finder (for men) or the mtDNA basic with Family Finder (for men or
> women).  Or you can wait and see what they put on sale in December.
>
> If you are an existing customer, the announcement read that the sale ends
> at
> a certain time.  I'd rather not wait until the very last minute to see if
> IT
> programmed the computers to stop the sale at the right time.  So I state
> that the sale ends 1 minute earlier than it really does.  It ends at
> 11:59pm
> CDT, today, June 21st.  I would think that if IT has their act together
> that
> the sale won't go through if you wait until 12 midnight on June 22nd (only
> 1
> minute later).
>
> Hope this clarifies a little bit!
> Cheri Mello & Rick Pimentel
> Family DNA Co-Admins
> Azores DNA Project
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] report from Pico

[Diane Lavely]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience.  I hope some day to be able
to make a trip myself.  Diane

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:23 AM,  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have not posted in a long time. I am still in Portugal, in a small
> village in the mountains near Viseu where I will be for three more weeks.
> But I did manage to get to the Azores for four days on my way here - two
> days on Faial and two days on Pico. My hope was to find a birth record for
> my great-great grandfather Caton Frates (Caetano Freitas?), which might in
> turn lead me to records for his parents and their families. I was not
> successful, but I still had a wonderful time. Here are some things that I
> found out which may be helpful to people on this list. Please bear with me
> if it's old news to some of you.
>
> The first thing I did when I arrived in Horta (on Faial) was go to the
> Public Library and Archive, where the records from before (I think) 1910 are
> kept. I found someone there who spoke a little English, and she tried to
> help me. But it was a bust. First, they would not let me look at any of the
> actual books. They put me on a computer and let me look at the scans posted
> here http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/, which I am sure many of you
> have already visited. Unfortunately, not all of the record books have been
> scanned yet, many of the existing scans are not very legible, and you can
> only search by island and parish (freguesia). So you either have to know the
> island and freguesia, or guess. Once you choose a freguesia and a period of
> time to search within, you get a huge block of links with no indication at
> all of what each link will lead to, so you have to fish at random for the
> proper year. (When I do this on my own computer those links all come up dead
> when I click on them - if anyone knows how to make them work I'd be much
> obliged - could it be because I'm using a Mac?) After much fishing I never
> did find the year I was looking for, and I was quite discouraged.
>
> The next day I went to Pico, and met a great taxi driver at the ferry
> terminal in Madelena. Her name is Maria Ribeira, and she lived for a long
> time in Canada and so speaks very good English. She is also very
> knowledgeable about local history, and I hired her to take me on a tour of
> the island (80 euros for a four-hour tour, or 100 for a seven-hour tour).
> She was a terrific guide and conversationalist, and I can highly recommend
> her if you want a guided tour of Pico (contact me if you want her email
> address). I told her why I was there and she was very interested, and said
> that a lot of Freitas people come from São Roque. She thought that if I were
> able to hang out in São Roque for a while and talk to people, eventually I
> would find someone who would remember something about my great-great
> grandfather, as many people still remember who left on the whaling ships
> ("It's a small place!"). Sadly, I did not have the time to do this. Her
> husband José is also a taxi driver but is also very interested in Pico
> history and genealogy, and works sometimes as a researcher for a law firm
> there, helping them track down distant family when Portuguese-Americans die
> and have no living heirs in the US. So he is available to hire if you are
> interested in that. She also mentioned that the whaling museum in Lajes do
> Pico had some books with names of some of the whalers who went to
> California.
>
> I was staying at a beautiful place on the outskirts of Lajes (
> http://aldeiadafonte.com/en/), so first thing next morning I walked into
> town and went to the whaling museum. I met a very nice woman named Ana
> Fagundes, who speaks excellent English. She mentioned that many Freitas
> people also came from Calheta, and assured me that his name was indeed
> probably Caetano, and that while this is usually a surname it could also be
> a given name. She showed me the books Maria had mentioned. I was expecting
> them to be actual historical record books, but it turned out they were
> published books about whaling that the museum sells. One was in Portuguese
> (don't recall the title), and one was this one in English, which I suspect
> many of you know: http://www.portuguesebooks.org/Whalers/shorewhaling.html(if 
> you have not seen this I would recommend it, especially for folks
> researching families in California). It does have many lists of the
> Portuguese/Azorean whalers working in California in the 19th century, though
> it did not list my great-great grandfather. Ana also directed me to this web
> site, which you may know: http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/  She then
> suggested I visit the Notario/Civil Registry office around the corner. They
> only have records for Lages, but since I did not know where my ancestor came
> from exactly it would be worth a try. But they were closed that day for the
> Festa de São Pedro. I stayed in town for the festa, and later that afternoon
> Ana found me on the street. After I had

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

You are wonderful  I cannot thank you enough for all this
information!!!  I can;t tell you how long I've been looking!!  Diane

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, eric edgar  wrote:

> Diane,
>
> Here's Matilde's marriage record. Important clue - mother listed as Maria
> Joaquina.
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>  On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:37 PM, eric edgar wrote:
>
>> Diane,
>>
>> Here is confirmation on Mathilde's birth record. The 1900 census shows
>> three children in the house- Hyjno wierd spelling for Eugene, b Jan 1881.
>> May- Mary b Oct 1883, and Mathilde b 1882.
>>
>> I have many resources for Flores, so I'll take a look for a Joaquina b
>> 1854 for what I guess is a Lourenco family.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>  On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know the island or origin.  But I am determined to find out more
>>> information about Portuguese ancestors.  My grandmother was Maria Lorencia
>>> Soares (aka Mary Sears) (Oct. 23, 1883 - 1970).  She was born in Cambridge,
>>> Mass.  Her parents were both from The Azores.  Her father was Jose M. Soares
>>> 7/24/1833 - 5/12/1905), and her mother Joaquina M. ??? (@1842-1922).  My
>>> grandmother had a sister, Filomena Soares (aka Sears) who married Joseph
>>> Machado Evangello.  My grandmother also had a brother, "Gene."  My great
>>> grandparents emigrated to Mass. - - Boston area - - from The Azores.  In old
>>> family pictures there are some other names noted - - Mitchell (which I
>>> understand was the name often taken by people names Machado), Costa,
>>> Machado, Evangello.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My email is:
>>> allevacon...@gmail.com.  My family tree is:  Lavely, Hillman, Hiltz,
>>> Soares Family Tree in Ancestry.com.  Thank you in advance for any help.
>>> Diane Lavely
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

Eric - - Lorenco was a guess on my part, based on my grandmother's middle
name - - Laurencia.  It might be something entirely different.  Thank you
sooomuch for all your help!!!  Diane

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:

> You are a goldmine!!!  Thank you ...thank youthank you!!!
> Diane
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:37 PM, eric edgar  wrote:
>
>> Diane,
>>
>> Here is confirmation on Mathilde's birth record. The 1900 census shows
>> three children in the house- Hyjno wierd spelling for Eugene, b Jan 1881.
>> May- Mary b Oct 1883, and Mathilde b 1882.
>>
>> I have many resources for Flores, so I'll take a look for a Joaquina b
>> 1854 for what I guess is a Lourenco family.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>  On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know the island or origin.  But I am determined to find out more
>>> information about Portuguese ancestors.  My grandmother was Maria Lorencia
>>> Soares (aka Mary Sears) (Oct. 23, 1883 - 1970).  She was born in Cambridge,
>>> Mass.  Her parents were both from The Azores.  Her father was Jose M. Soares
>>> 7/24/1833 - 5/12/1905), and her mother Joaquina M. ??? (@1842-1922).  My
>>> grandmother had a sister, Filomena Soares (aka Sears) who married Joseph
>>> Machado Evangello.  My grandmother also had a brother, "Gene."  My great
>>> grandparents emigrated to Mass. - - Boston area - - from The Azores.  In old
>>> family pictures there are some other names noted - - Mitchell (which I
>>> understand was the name often taken by people names Machado), Costa,
>>> Machado, Evangello.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My email is:
>>> allevacon...@gmail.com.  My family tree is:  Lavely, Hillman, Hiltz,
>>> Soares Family Tree in Ancestry.com.  Thank you in advance for any help.
>>> Diane Lavely
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

You are a goldmine!!!  Thank you ...thank youthank you!!!
Diane

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:37 PM, eric edgar  wrote:

> Diane,
>
> Here is confirmation on Mathilde's birth record. The 1900 census shows
> three children in the house- Hyjno wierd spelling for Eugene, b Jan 1881.
> May- Mary b Oct 1883, and Mathilde b 1882.
>
> I have many resources for Flores, so I'll take a look for a Joaquina b 1854
> for what I guess is a Lourenco family.
>
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>  On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>
>> I don't know the island or origin.  But I am determined to find out more
>> information about Portuguese ancestors.  My grandmother was Maria Lorencia
>> Soares (aka Mary Sears) (Oct. 23, 1883 - 1970).  She was born in Cambridge,
>> Mass.  Her parents were both from The Azores.  Her father was Jose M. Soares
>> 7/24/1833 - 5/12/1905), and her mother Joaquina M. ??? (@1842-1922).  My
>> grandmother had a sister, Filomena Soares (aka Sears) who married Joseph
>> Machado Evangello.  My grandmother also had a brother, "Gene."  My great
>> grandparents emigrated to Mass. - - Boston area - - from The Azores.  In old
>> family pictures there are some other names noted - - Mitchell (which I
>> understand was the name often taken by people names Machado), Costa,
>> Machado, Evangello.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My email is:
>> allevacon...@gmail.com.  My family tree is:  Lavely, Hillman, Hiltz,
>> Soares Family Tree in Ancestry.com.  Thank you in advance for any help.
>> Diane Lavely
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

I'm sooo excited  Thanks sooo much!!!  Diane

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:11 PM, eric edgar  wrote:

> Diane,
>
> Here's the "smoking gun". From Eugene Soares birth record- father Jose is
> from St George, mother Joaquina (Joanna on the record) is from Flores.
>
> I have lots of resources for Flores, so I'll look for what I guess is a
> Lourenco family with a Joaquina b 1842.
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>  On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>
>> I don't know the island or origin.  But I am determined to find out more
>> information about Portuguese ancestors.  My grandmother was Maria Lorencia
>> Soares (aka Mary Sears) (Oct. 23, 1883 - 1970).  She was born in Cambridge,
>> Mass.  Her parents were both from The Azores.  Her father was Jose M. Soares
>> 7/24/1833 - 5/12/1905), and her mother Joaquina M. ??? (@1842-1922).  My
>> grandmother had a sister, Filomena Soares (aka Sears) who married Joseph
>> Machado Evangello.  My grandmother also had a brother, "Gene."  My great
>> grandparents emigrated to Mass. - - Boston area - - from The Azores.  In old
>> family pictures there are some other names noted - - Mitchell (which I
>> understand was the name often taken by people names Machado), Costa,
>> Machado, Evangello.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My email is:
>> allevacon...@gmail.com.  My family tree is:  Lavely, Hillman, Hiltz,
>> Soares Family Tree in Ancestry.com.  Thank you in advance for any help.
>> Diane Lavely
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

I do not know the island of origin.  I am looking, but no luck as of yet.
Thanks.  Diane

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Katharine wrote:

> Diane, do you know or can you find out what island(s) your ancestors'
> neighbors might have been from?  It was not unusual from emigrants
> from the same island (even same village) to cluster together upon
> arrival at their destination.  Katharine.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

Thanks sooo much!!!   Diane

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Is this him?..Will info...
>
> You can get a copy of the Will from the MA Archives in Boston.  Can order
> via email or snail mail.  The cost used to be minimal...I am not sure if
> that is still the case.  Maybe it will give you some info?
> iddlesex County, Massachusetts Probate Index, 1871-1909 (Part 
> A-K)
>  Given Name: *Jose M.* Surname: *Soares* City: Somerville Date: 1905
> Subject: Will Number: 68178
> Do youhave the birth record for Maria? I think this is her and if anyone on
> the list has NEGHS maybe they will do a lookup for you.  Probably won't say
> more than Azores but it's nice to have it.
>
> Name:  Mary Sears
> Birth Date:  23 Oct. 1883
> Birthplace:  Cambridge, Middlesex MA
> Father's Name:  Joseph
> Mother's Name:  Joaquina
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Soares

[Diane Lavely]

I'm going to try to give as much info as I have, and hope someone
makes a connection.

My grandmother was Maria Lorencia Soares - - aka Mary L. Sears (1883
-1970).  She was born in Cambridge, MA.  Her parents were:  Jose
Machado Soares - - Born in The Azores 24 July 1833 - Died 12 May
1905.  My grandmother had at least two siblings - - an older brother.
Eugene Soares, and a sister, ??  and my Great grandmother, Joaquina
M. ??? (1842 - 1922).   Joaquina had a sister, Filomena, who married
Joseph Machado Evangello.  They all lived near each other in
Somerville, MA.  Eugene lived as a boarder with his aunt Filomena and
uncle Joseph Evangello.  My grandmother, Maria/Mary took care of her
mother until her mother died in abt 1922.  She then married James
Ethelbert Hiltz (1877 - 1938) at the age of 39 yrs.  In old family
pics, I find other names Costa, Machado, Mitchell, Evangello.  I
understand that Machado was often changed to Mitchell.  Anyone make
any connections???  Thanks for any help or suggestions.  My family
tree on Ancestry,com is "Lavely/Hillman/Hiltzs/Soares Family Tree."
My email is"  allevacon...@gmail.com.  Thanks!  Diane Lavely


On Jun 28, 4:37 am, Terri  wrote:
> I have  family with the surname 'Medeiros Soares'.  If you find that
> your people were from Agua de Pau on Sao Miguel Island...we just MIGHT
> have a connection somewhere down the line. I would need a bit more
> info from you to check on that.
> Good luck
>
> On Jun 26, 7:30 pm, Diane Lavely  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Looking for information about my great grandparents, Jose M. Soares,
> > and his wife Joaquina M. ??
>
> > They were both born in the Azores.  One of their children, Maria
> > Laurencia Soares (aka Mary L. Sears) was my grandmother.  She was born
> > in Cambridge, Mass., USA 10/23/1883.  Her parents were both born in
> > the Azores,  That is all that I know about them.  Does anyone have any
> > info, or can you point me in a reasonable direction??  Thanks.- Hide quoted 
> > text -
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

Thanks.  I have been trying to find which island, but no luck thus far.
Still looking.  Diane

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Diane L,
>
> You'll need to get it down to at least the island.  The concelho (council -
> like a county) or freguesia (village) is preferable.  For a list of things
> to do to get started, go here:
> http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
>
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Soares

[Diane Lavely]

Thanks!!  Diane

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Diane L,
>
> You're going to have to find every piece of paper in America on your
> grandmother and her siblings, as well as any paper trail her parents may
> have left here in America.
>
> I'm unsure what sources you've tried so far.  For a good how-to, go to the
> Azores GenWeb here:
> http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for help finding relatives from the Azores

[Diane Lavely]

I don't know the island or origin.  But I am determined to find out more
information about Portuguese ancestors.  My grandmother was Maria Lorencia
Soares (aka Mary Sears) (Oct. 23, 1883 - 1970).  She was born in Cambridge,
Mass.  Her parents were both from The Azores.  Her father was Jose M. Soares
7/24/1833 - 5/12/1905), and her mother Joaquina M. ??? (@1842-1922).  My
grandmother had a sister, Filomena Soares (aka Sears) who married Joseph
Machado Evangello.  My grandmother also had a brother, "Gene."  My great
grandparents emigrated to Mass. - - Boston area - - from The Azores.  In old
family pictures there are some other names noted - - Mitchell (which I
understand was the name often taken by people names Machado), Costa,
Machado, Evangello.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My email is:
allevacon...@gmail.com.  My family tree is:  Lavely, Hillman, Hiltz, Soares
Family Tree in Ancestry.com.  Thank you in advance for any help.  Diane
Lavely

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Soares

[Diane Lavely]

Thanks so much, Eric.  It is a puzzle!!  Diane

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:59 PM, eric edgar  wrote:

> Diane,
>
> I don't think the Jose Machado Soares on the shiplist for the Patria of
> 1902 is the gggrandfather. If you go to the actual page on the source
> citation, it shows he is on the detained list. Now if you go back to  page 4
> of the actual shiplist , there is more information.It shows his destination
> is Glouchester to the care of Francisco S Machado.. He travels with Maria de
> Conceicao aged 72, and Maria Amelia Mathilde aged 23. It shows his previous
> trip to the US was in 1897. This person was not a US citizen, as evidenced
> by his being held as a "Alien for Special Inquiry"
>
> None of this matches with your other information. He was already using the
> name Sears in 1883, so it's unlikely he would revert to the Soares. See
> attached birth record.
>
> Have you tried ordering a death certificate for him?
>
> My Soares family ( actuall Silveira Soares) is from Lajes , Pico.
>
>   On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>
>>  That is my tree.  But I am unable to find further background, and that
>> is what I am seeking.  Thanks.  Diane
>>
>>   On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:39 PM, eric edgar wrote:
>>
>>>   iDiana.
>>>
>>> Ancestry.com has a Family Tree with this family. You can find it as
>>> Lavely/Hillman/Hiltz/Soares Family Tree
>>> It doesn't show the place in the Azores they come from, but is shows he
>>> is Jose Machado Soares 24 July 1833-12 May 1905 and she is Joaquina Maria
>>> Laurencia 1842-1922.. They have photos of them.
>>> ERic Edgar
>>>   On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Diane Lavely 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Looking for information about my great grandparents, Jose M. Soares,
>>>> and his wife Joaquina M. ??
>>>>
>>>> They were both born in the Azores.  One of their children, Maria
>>>> Laurencia Soares (aka Mary L. Sears) was my grandmother.  She was born
>>>> in Cambridge, Mass., USA 10/23/1883.  Her parents were both born in
>>>> the Azores,  That is all that I know about them.  Does anyone have any
>>>> info, or can you point me in a reasonable direction??  Thanks.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Soares

[Diane Lavely]

That is my tree.  But I am unable to find further background, and that is
what I am seeking.  Thanks.  Diane

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:39 PM, eric edgar  wrote:

> iDiana.
>
> Ancestry.com has a Family Tree with this family. You can find it as
> Lavely/Hillman/Hiltz/Soares Family Tree
> It doesn't show the place in the Azores they come from, but is shows he is
> Jose Machado Soares 24 July 1833-12 May 1905 and she is Joaquina Maria
> Laurencia 1842-1922.. They have photos of them.
> ERic Edgar
>   On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Diane Lavely wrote:
>
>>  Looking for information about my great grandparents, Jose M. Soares,
>> and his wife Joaquina M. ??
>>
>> They were both born in the Azores.  One of their children, Maria
>> Laurencia Soares (aka Mary L. Sears) was my grandmother.  She was born
>> in Cambridge, Mass., USA 10/23/1883.  Her parents were both born in
>> the Azores,  That is all that I know about them.  Does anyone have any
>> info, or can you point me in a reasonable direction??  Thanks.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Soares

[Diane Lavely]

Looking for information about my great grandparents, Jose M. Soares,
and his wife Joaquina M. ??

They were both born in the Azores.  One of their children, Maria
Laurencia Soares (aka Mary L. Sears) was my grandmother.  She was born
in Cambridge, Mass., USA 10/23/1883.  Her parents were both born in
the Azores,  That is all that I know about them.  Does anyone have any
info, or can you point me in a reasonable direction??  Thanks.

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