Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil
There is only a preview of the book. Meaning it is showing you sections of the book. I used the link you posted Sam and once you get to page 20 it shows you that 21 through 76 are not shown in the preview. It let's you look at some pages but not all of them. This book is still under copyright restrictions. You may find a copy in a library or I believe there is an ebook version for $8.99 to download. E check for pages 21 - 76 and find out if you can see these pages. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:48 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Sam, I have no problem with it. It brings me to Page 9 but I can scroll up for the beginning of the book. E On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:51 AM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: I’ve never used Google Books before and clearly, I must be doing something wrong because I go to the link provided below and get the preview of the book. It goes to page 9 and then there is a line that says “pages 10 to 217 are not shown in this preview”.Where am I going wrong? Thanks, Sam in NC Sent from Windows Mail *From:* IslandRoutes insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, July 18, 2014 9:17 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com Pau Hana by Ronald Takaki is free through Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=LD94ovK6Ej0Clpg=PP1dq=pau%20hanapg=PA16#v=onepageq=pau%20hanaf=false -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil
That looks like a very interesting book to read. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:13 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Even better, Here is a scanned copy free! http://books.google.com/books?hl=enlr=id=LD94ovK6Ej0Coi=fndpg=PR9dq=portuguese+kauaiots=ytj9itz0Ydsig=eyNUoOBov9jqhgIVMFGIeKTt5Js#v=onepageq=portuguese%20kauaif=false On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a great book on the subject of plantation conditions *Pau Hana: Plantation Life and Labor in Hawaii, 1835-1920* By *Ronald T. Takak* You can find it easily on Amazon. Eric On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Melody!! On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reposting the original document, Eric. I had saved it to my last computer, but, lost it when it crashed. Apart from the history it covers, its got great stories from the immigrant perspective. On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:24:40 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: Eliseu, Here is the original document attached. Eric On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Tanya Smith tanya8...@gmail.com wrote: I have a copy of my 2nd great grandfathers Honolulu plantation work contract from 1883 - he ended up on the island of Kauai, I don't know how if this was by choice or designation. - 9 USD per month for 1 year - Not sure the equivalent to the current Azores currency at that time. Anyone? Tanya On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:54 AM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com wrote: The following is from an Azores Government publication concerning the Hawaiian migration. The Portuguese migration to Hawaii was fueled by poor economic conditions in the mother country, and particularly in Madeira. The production and export of fine wines had been for many years the mainstay of the Madeiran economy. During the 1850’s, however, the vineyards were laid waste by a blight that crippled the wine industry for decades. Unemployment and hunger followed the destruction of the vineyards. As conditions worsened, Madeirans looked for a better way of life in Brazil, the United States and Hawaii. During this same period, the Kingdom of Hawaii was in need of laborers for her sugar plantations. The large scale cultivation of sugar depended upon a continuous supply of inexpensive labor. The demand for plantation workers increased after Hawaii concluded a Reciprocity Treaty with the United States in 1876, which facilitated the exportation of Hawaiian sugar. The dramatic decline of the Hawaiian population had caused planters and government officials to look abroad for suitable immigrants to work the land and increase the population of the Kingdom. Several thousand Chinese emigrated to Hawaii during the 1860’s and 1870’s. Yet the Chinese seldom brought their families, and distinct cultural differences between the Chinese and other residents of Hawaii caused many of the latter to demand an end to the large scale importation of workers from China. In 1876, *Mr. Jacintho Pereira,* a Portuguese citizen and proprietor of a successful dry goods store in Honolulu, came forward with an interesting idea. Pereira suggested that the Hawaiian government investigate the possibility of solving Hawaii’s labor and population problems by encouraging the immigration of Portuguese from Madeira. The government contacted *Dr. William Hillebrand* who was living at that time in Funchal. Hillbrand acted as Hawaii’s agent, and carried out all of the details required to place the first contingent of Portuguese immigrants aboard the Priscilla. *1853* Census shows 87 Portuguese in Hawaii. *1876* Jacinto Perreira, a Portuguese merchant residing in Hawaii recommends to the Kingdom the immigration of Portuguese to Hawaii to help solve the labor problems. *1877* The St. Antonio Society, a Portuguese benevolent association, is established in Honolulu. *1878* Census shows more than 400 Portuguese in Hawaii. *1878* The ship Priscilla arrives in Honolulu harbor on September 30. 1878 with the first major contingent of Portuguese immigrants to Hawaii (about 120 men, women and children). *1879* The ship Ravenscrag arrives in Honolulu harbor on August 23, 1879 with the second large group of Portuguese settlers in Hawaii (419 men, women and children). These settlers brought with them the Portuguese braguinha, the instrument that became the ‘ukulele. *1882* The Government of Hawaii signs an immigration treaty with Portugal. *1893* Portuguese support the establishment of the Hawaiian Republic. *1900* Portuguese population numbers 18,272, approximately 12% of the total population of the Hawaiian Islands. *1900* to Period of Portuguese migration from the plantations to Honolulu and other towns. *1913* The Ascot arrives in Honolulu harbor with 1,283 Portuguese immigrants aboard. This ship is usually
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Site
I just tried and it came up just fine. I would suggest you copied this URL: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ It works just fine. I am in California. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Gerri Martin gerrimar...@rocketmail.com wrote: Anyone have any suggestions? I have no problem with other internet sites, so I know it is not my connection. I tried turning off my wireless and cannot access through 4g or 3g either. Is it possible that only a certain region cannot access? I am not a computer expert and I am stumped. I tried accessing by just clicking on a link in one of the messages too. Making me crazy! On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:52:35 AM UTC-7, Gerri Martin wrote: Is anyone else having trouble with access? I have tried three different browsers, cleared my history, restarted my computer and can't get on. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How accurate is death record information
Since this thread is about death record information, I would like to ask a question. Could someone tell me about Obitos? I see there are some on CCA, but where most deaths recorded or was it hit and miss? I have always looked for the baptismos and marriages. Thanks On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com wrote: They seem to range in accuracy. For the most part they will get the name right and their spouses name correct if they were married or widowed. The amount of info also seems to depend on the priest, and the year. Death recs in the 1600's and 1700's sometimes contain less info. Generally i have seen that children and young unmarried people have relatively accurate info with age, names of parents etc., and where they were from. For middle age or older individuals age accuracy seems to vary from what I have have seen, from accurate within the correct year , or up to 4 or 5 years off. Sometimes spouses of the deceased are not listed for some reason, as well as ages. Other times the records may not list the original place the individual was from if they did not know. In any case, the Obitos can be very useful in filling in info and calculating their approximate birth. I use the other baptismal and marriage records to get more precise info. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Possible Portuguese Names for this couple
I am helping someone with their family history. What would be the possible Portugese names for Fred C Lewis? All I know is that on the 1940 Census he is listed as Fred C Lewis birthplace as Portugal and immigrated in 1900. At this point I just need name suggestions. His wife is Mary and I know that would be Maria. She came is 1902 also shows Portugal. They are on the 1920 Census for Merced, California with children Fred C Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493883 30 [35] Mary A Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493884 30Mary Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493885 11Antony Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493886 6Annie Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493887 5Roya Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493888 3Fred Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493889 0 [7/12] Thanks for any and all suggestions Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Possible Portuguese Names for this couple
Thank you for your suggestions. I did not expect you to figure out what the C stood for. I was hoping that someone might recognize the family if I gave the entire name. On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Antonio Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marilyn Another popular name in the azores that starts with C is Costa. Some surnames are popular in some islands and villages and not others I believe the surname Luis is frequently found on the island of Faial and Madalena, Pico. If I recall I don't think it is found very frequently in Sao Jorge which is where many Azoreans from Merced are from. The other islands I'm as familiar with. Antonio On Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:23:04 PM UTC-7, Marilyn Thompson wrote: I am helping someone with their family history. What would be the possible Portugese names for Fred C Lewis? All I know is that on the 1940 Census he is listed as Fred C Lewis birthplace as Portugal and immigrated in 1900. At this point I just need name suggestions. His wife is Mary and I know that would be Maria. She came is 1902 also shows Portugal. They are on the 1920 Census for Merced, California with children Fred C Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493883 30 [35] Mary A Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493884 30Mary Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493885 11 Antony Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493886 6Annie Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493887 5 Roya Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493888 3Fred Lewis http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcenindiv=tryh=5493889 0 [7/12] Thanks for any and all suggestions Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA information (New Admin; Conference Sale; AncestryDNA)
What does it cost to transfer DNA test results to FTDNA? I have a non Azorean family member that tested with Ancestry.com. Thank you On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: About the sale at the showthere are no upgrades on sale. I'll ask Bennett Greenspan (founder and CEO) if he's entertaining thoughts about having upgrades on sale for the Sizzling Summer Sale. I'll try to post later today, but today (Sat) is a very hectic day for me (between the show and then the festa). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA information (New Admin; Conference Sale; AncestryDNA)
Sorry I was being lazy I guess. I just found the page and have sent it on to my sister-in-law. On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: What does it cost to transfer DNA test results to FTDNA? I have a non Azorean family member that tested with Ancestry.com. Thank you On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: About the sale at the showthere are no upgrades on sale. I'll ask Bennett Greenspan (founder and CEO) if he's entertaining thoughts about having upgrades on sale for the Sizzling Summer Sale. I'll try to post later today, but today (Sat) is a very hectic day for me (between the show and then the festa). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
WOW Great job sleuthing and rewarded by a great find On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: So Mel, you have now been inducted into the Sherlock Holmes Detective hall of fame! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA information (New Admin; Conference Sale; AncestryDNA)
So they only get the data not the actual sample? Just thinking if someone would want to upgrade their testing, then what? On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For those who want to know.. They get your data from Ancestry or 23 and Me and put it into their system, then run matches to FTDNA, and create you a page. I'm sure there's more detail to it, but that's the basics, I think. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Southern California Genealogy Society's Jamboree, Thursday, June 5, through Sunday
Wish I could, but it won't happen. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: The Southern California Genealogy Society is having their annual Jamboree from Thursday, June 5th through Sunday, June 8th at the Burbank Marriott. Is anyone going? -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A very young bride and groom in Achada 1777
They may not have been baptized as babies. Just a thought On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious what others think of this marriage that I came across in Achada. The marriage took place in 1777. The couple is distantly related to me. What caught my eye was the years of baptismal. The groom was baptized in mille sette centos secenta e quarto annos = 1764. The bride in mille sette centos secenta e seis = 1766. Portuguese numbers kind of trip me up so I checked my translations and confirmed them. This would mean the groom was 13 and the bride 11? I have never seen such a young couple in the Azores! Here is the marriage record for reference: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1758-1787/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1758-1787_item1/P94.html I began to think that maybe the Priest made a mistake. He was tired. He really meant 1754 and 1756 (or something else), not 1764 and 1766. I decided to find the baptismal records to see if they were in those years. I found the groom, Joze, in 1764 (bottom of left hand page, son of Matheus Correa): http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1751-1770/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1751-1770_item1/P97.html And, I found the bride, Roza, in 1766 (left hand side bottom, dau of Domingas Pimentel): http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1751-1770/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1751-1770_item1/P109.html I have not translated out the marriage record in it's entirety yet as I haven't had a chance to really work through it. I wonder what other researchers think. Did these two really marry so young? Would they have set up house at such a young age--would their have been a delay until they were older? As I said, I have never come across a couple so young in my research. It's sparked my curiosity. And, if I'm reading these records incorrectly, please let me know! I'm vital record and swear word fluent in Portuguese, so I could be missing something or misinterpreting words. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge Island vital records index
Thank you for that generous offer. I will have to check my Sao Jorge lines. I know some are in Ribeira Seca. I may not be back to the time periods you have extracted, but I will check Marilyn On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Suzanne, climbatree2 at gmail.com I have Sao Jorge Ribeira Seca marriages extracted from 1698 through a portion of 1767; baptisms from 1623 through a portion of 1676; and some of the death records as well. If anyone has a need, contact me. My goal is to eventually have all of records in Calheta district extracted. Suzanne Researching Sao Jorge -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching in Fairhaven, MA?
You might try going to the find a grave site then click on the cemetery name, then you can do a search for Rose or whatever other surname to see if any others are also buried in that cemetery. Marilyn On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:53 PM, David Perry djperr...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Many, many thanks to all. The grave is indeed that of my Manuel Rose. Now I have a bit more to work with. Hopefully an obituary will list more names. His mother by the way is listed as Mary Travers - I've seen this in other records as well - but her name was Mary Tavares. This Manuel lived with his grandfather (my great grandfather in 1920, about eight years after his parents passed away. Thanks again, David On Friday, May 16, 2014 6:02:46 AM UTC-7, David Perry wrote: Hi, I need the assistance of anyone who might be in or near Fairhaven, MA who could find an obituary or direct me to someone - a generous librarian for instance - who could do the same. My grandmother's sister's entire line has been lost to the family for about ninety years and the only possible relative I can find is Manuel Rose born 22 Dec 1906 in Taunton. He died 07 Mar 1988 in Fairhaven, MA. I'm hoping the obituary would have the names of surviving children or hopefully even grandchildren. Many thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost
Does anyone know if the images on the CCA site are from the microfilmed copies that the LDS Church made? Or have they (CCA) digitized their own copy from the original records. Just wondering if the repairs were made after the microfilmed copy. If someone has access to the microfilmed copy at a Family History Center, maybe they could check or ask someone at the Conference in Salt Lake to do a quick check. Just my thoughts On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.comwrote: Maria Elena, No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out, it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to do restoration. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote: Upper left page Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia de Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl. I've tried staring at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink. How would you enter this? Baby girl Bottelho (?) Thank for looking. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Orphanage Records
Do you know the area of California? You might need to contact the Diocese for the area and talk to someone in the Archives Department. I do not know specifically they will have them or that they will let you have the information. I just contacted the Archives at the Fresno Diocese. They are only open on Thursdays. I wanted a copy of my grandfathers blessing record. They were very helpful. They found the record, scanned it and emailed it to me all for free. On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Grace CM gracecm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know of orphanage records in California from about 1870-1890? Since the parents were from the Azores, I imagine they were Catholic, so it might include church-supported orphanages, if there were such things then. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Orphanage Records
It is just a copy of the actual Baptismal record. Sorry I said Blessing record and should have said Baptismal record. The county court house where he was born burned and I just wanted a copy of a record for him. He baptism was in 1898 in California. It gave his name, baptism and birth dates and his parents names. Sorry for the confusion. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Marilyn, What information do you get from a blessing record? Thanks, Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Orphanage Records From: Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com Date: Sat, April 12, 2014 8:12 am To: Cheri Mello azores@googlegroups.com I just contacted the Archives at the Fresno Diocese. They are only open on Thursdays. I wanted a copy of my grandfathers blessing record. They were very helpful. They found the record, scanned it and emailed it to me all for free. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] City Directory Surveys
I do not. You might try looking at the beginning of the directory. Sometimes they state when it was actually done, but many times just a year is stated. It you are looking online, like Ancestry.com just go to the beginning of the images which should be the beginning of the book. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Liliana Harris lilianah...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, Marilyn. I know it's a long shot, but would you happen to know the answer for New Bedford, Massachusetts? On Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:21:03 PM UTC-7, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Cheri is correct. It all depended on the city, county, or publisher. I have a pretty good knowledge of city directories as I did an inventory of city directories for the Library of Congress, in DC as part of my internship. Marilyn On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: I would guess it would depend on the publisher or city. Cheri On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Liliana Harris lilia...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know at which time of year the information for city directories (1880s to 1920s) was most likely to have been taken? Before the year started--so *by* January, 1900 for a 1900 city directory, for example. Or by the end of the year? Or does it just depend? I have found one ancestor Removed from city... and want to know the timing. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDA MTdna sale
Thanks for posting about the sale. I missed seeing anything else about it. I ordered for my first cousin once removed (I think that is the correct relationship). He is full Azorean so it will interesting to see his results. I had his Y-DNA and Family Finder done but did not get any close results. So here is hoping for closer results. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:20 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Here is additional sale info: Savings mtDNAFullSequence Addon and New Kits - Was $199 US Now $139 US mtHVR1toMEGA Upgrade - Was $149 US Now $99 US mtHVR2toMEGA Upgrade - Was $159 US Now $89 US E On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:13 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Family Tree DNA is having a sale on its mtDNA (Maternal line) $139. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Joe aka Joao Ignacio aka John Enos - Seattle Empire Hotel
Thanks for sharing. Not related, but interesting story On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: This is an interesting story. Maybe one of you might be related to his family?? http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/mar/10/then-and-now-spokanes-empire-hotel/ E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Crovelle
I looked on Find A Grave and found them some that appear to be them in the Saint Joseph Catholic Cemetery. This is a link to their daughter's page that will give you the links to their pages http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=12963273 I hope these are the right people. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, dave-edna dave-e...@comcast.net wrote: I know there are a lot of experts on here so I thought I'd put out something on one of my brick walls. I am having trouble locating records one set of my paternal Great Grandparents. The lived and died in Siskiyou County, Ca and are buried in the Yreka Catholic Cemetery. I think they married in that area in 2-13-1879. Unfortunately that is all I know. Family history indicates my Great Grandfather was born bet 1832-1837 in Flores, Acores but I don't know town. His wife Maria Jesintia Rosa was supposedly born 5-18-1864 in Graciosa, Acores and I don't have town there either. I figure the surname probably was not Crovelle but not sure. I have it spelled Crovell, Crovello and Crovel. I can't find their marriage record either, but I'm pretty sure they married in Siskiyou County, Ca in Hawkinsville, Hornbrook or Yreka area. Anyhow, I'm mainly just wondering if any of you have researched Flores or Graciosa and may have seen anything on either or these names? Or have suggestions for where else to look? I've done genealogy for a while but quit about 7 years ago so I'm now having to get myself retrained. Thanks. Edna -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] pictures
Mike, before my husband and I went to the Azores in 1999, I contacted the Azorean Embassy. They were very generous with tourist booklets about the islands that I was interested in visiting. They were very nice color brochures used to promote travel to the islands. They were free. Marilyn On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:31 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Mike, if someone does not have pictures you might try your luck on EBay. If you type in Azores and the Island name pictures and postcards will show up. Rosemarie *From:* Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 6:23 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] pictures I have a huge favor to ask, the chances of me ever getting to the Azores due to health issues are slim to none. So iw was w wondering if any of you have been to Piedade, Pico or to Cedros, Faial might be willing to share some pictures with me of the area? I know I'm asking allot and if you say no I understand, I have one picture from there of my GGgrand mother and a daughter in Cedros. Or if you know of a website or book that shows the areas? Mike -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Baptism- Mother's name
I am not sure of either parent's full name. Top Right http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1751-1769/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1751-1769_item1/P160.html Thanks you for the help Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing
Marico I have done the Family Tree DNA testing and a first cousin once removed. We are still waiting on his results. So I know that you will have some family on here. I have also made connection with some others in the Azorean DNA group. Where are you in Canada? I have cousins in Toronto. Marilyn On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Marcio, This link will take you to the Azores DNA Project where you can order a test. goo.gl/1hvrp9 *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 11:26 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing Marcio, It's best to go with Family Tree DNA. That's where the Azores DNA project is. I'd start off with the Family Finder test, which covers all your lines back about 200 years from your birth. That test is $99 USD + $7 postage since you are in Canada. Yes, there's a bit of a difference between the companies. There are over 600 people with Azorean descent at Family Tree DNA. There's probably about 12 people with Azorean ancestry over at Ancestry.com. There's more at 23 and Me, but since that company was originally set up for medical type info, most people there don't answer genealogy requests. Rick is going to have to send you the join link because my computer froze up again and I'm answering through my cell. Excuse the typos. Hope this answers your questions. Cheri On Feb 14, 2014 9:09 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I never really got into the DNA testing but would like to know how and where to do it, how much would it cost. I live in Canada. Is there a diference between the companies that do it? Thank you for any input on the matter. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
Cheri I just looked at your 2 posts. I used each link even those for Amaro, they look alike in appearance. These are the records that they brought up. 1 email for Amaro Achada, Óbitos 1854-1860 0040 for Vicencia São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0126 2 email for Amaro São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0299 I am not sure how you are so talented. I guess each of us will need to check the links we post to make sure it does link to the correct document. Marilyn On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada! I hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that). Here's Amaro's death: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860_item1/P40.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
I have not moved to Windows 8. Until I see a real reason that is important to me I am not changing. Somewhere down the line I may make the change or I will skip in entirely, like I did Vista On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, I did this last night. Well, let me back up. When I went to work, I finally allowed Windows to update to 8.1. Then I came home and started to do some genealogy. My pointer froze up twice. I couldn't get it to unstick, so I had to shut the power off and reboot. When it did it again the second time, I gave up and watched the Olympics. So I'm guessing that this a.m. it remembered the other link from the Achada records I was working with earlier. So it's Windows 8.1. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote: Cheri I just looked at your 2 posts. I used each link even those for Amaro, they look alike in appearance. These are the records that they brought up. 1 email for Amaro Achada, Óbitos 1854-1860 0040 for Vicencia São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0126 2 email for Amaro São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0299 I am not sure how you are so talented. I guess each of us will need to check the links we post to make sure it does link to the correct document. Marilyn On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada! I hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that). Here's Amaro's death: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860_item1/P40.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Thank you Richard and Hermano for your help with this record. Richard can you tell me exactly what it says about twins? Who are the twins? If they are part of this family I would like to find out more about them. Thanks again Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Somehow I convinced myself it was a baptism kind of makes me feel dumb.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 7:30 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Thank you that is great to find a cousin. I am glad you have such good information. I will get back to you Marilyn On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: I just realized I had Jose Antonio GOncalves and his both weddings in my data. His father Manuel Gonçalves (Fagundes), was brothers with my ancestor Ana Maria do Rosario. See attached document. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 14:03, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com escreveu: They didnt receive the Blessings most likely because he had been married before Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 13:35, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com escreveu: They married Dec. 18 1862. Jose Antonio Goncalves, 58 years old, widower of Quiteria Maria who died in this parish, legitimate son of Manuel Goncalves and Clara dos Anjos. Mariana Jose, 22 years old, legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Vitorina. They were dispensados do 2º. e 4º. grau de consaguinidade lícita means they were second and fourth cousins Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Segunda-feira, 10 de Fevereiro de 2014 21:02, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com escreveu: Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I have no idea what is being said. The part after Maria Victorina's name. I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote: Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records
Tony Thank you for the link, but there are none available online for Sao Jorge. Now at least I know where to look for other islands. Are these books available on any microfilms? Would they be with the baptisms? Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.comwrote: Marilyn, Here is the link to the CCA site http://goo.gl/yDkvrb Tony On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:57:12 PM UTC-8, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Are the separate books (legitimacoes) available to search online? If not where do you find them? I have seen them mentioned before but do not know how to locate them. Thanks Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Soares asoare...@gmail.comwrote: AudioSourceInc, If you have the husbands name from the Baptismo, the next step is to find the Casamento ( marriage ) record. It will require a swag ( scientific wild ass guess) and you may end up searching several decades to find it. If you are lucky the casemento will list the ages at time of marriage,that will narrow your search for her baptism record otherwise it will be time for another swag. I usually start at age 20 and go from there ( haven't had to go younger yet). Also if you are lucky she will not have a common name i.e.: Maria. Depending on time period she may be described as pais incognito or nao pais sabido. hope this helps Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I have no idea what is being said. The part after Maria Victorina's name. I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote: Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages
Did they wash the page with something? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Thank goodness for color scans! What is this purple stuff on the pages? http://goo.gl/Qi9m4i -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records
Are the separate books (legitimacoes) available to search online? If not where do you find them? I have seen them mentioned before but do not know how to locate them. Thanks Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.comwrote: AudioSourceInc, If you have the husbands name from the Baptismo, the next step is to find the Casamento ( marriage ) record. It will require a swag ( scientific wild ass guess) and you may end up searching several decades to find it. If you are lucky the casemento will list the ages at time of marriage,that will narrow your search for her baptism record otherwise it will be time for another swag. I usually start at age 20 and go from there ( haven't had to go younger yet). Also if you are lucky she will not have a common name i.e.: Maria. Depending on time period she may be described as pais incognito or nao pais sabido. hope this helps Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Copyright and the Copy Machine
I do not chime in too often, but this article from Legal Genealogists is not fully correct. The large library does have scanners, with copyright notices posted next to them. As a genealogist by degree (BA), there is a % of a copyrighted book that can be copied. I am away from my information right now, but if memory serves me right it is about 20% of a book may be copied. It is not a problem to copy a few pages of a book, so do not panic if you have made copies. Marilyn On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hi All,* *This is worth knowing about something to consider when we start making copies.* *http://goo.gl/vZZlVb http://goo.gl/vZZlVb * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Mr. Johan Verelst FTDNA Match
Help! I do not know what Wim is even referring too in the email. I sent an email asking if this person would consider posting a GEDCOM to their tested person and this is what was sent. I know this is not Azorean, but would you consider helping me understand, please. I do not even know where to find the values he has mentioned. DF19+ and DF88+ let alone the L644 The kit number they gave is not mine. My kit for James A Miller is 211318. It might be easier to talk me through this on the phone. I would be available after 8:30pm CA time. 801 254-5985 Thank you Marilyn ps Gilbert Machado's test kit has been received by FTDNA. His is an Azorean. -- Forwarded message -- From: Wim Verelst wimvere...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:17 AM Subject: Re: Mr. Johan Verelst FTDNA Match To: Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com Hello Marilyn, the paper trail of Johan Verelst's ancestry ends in a man named Cornelis Verelst, born about 1565 in a small village south from Antwerp (present-day Belgium). However, he is genetically related to me, and we share a biologically confirmed ancestor who lived in that same region in the 15th century. Is the kit number of your James A. Miller 228805? I am one of the volunteer co-administrators of the P312 Subclades project at FTDNA, and in this project we have quite a few Miller samples that have tested positive for the DF19 and DF88 mutations. Is yours one of these? My own Verelst family is also DF19+ DF88+, but unlike the Miller / Müller family it has an additional mutation, L644. Any historic connection between the Miller and Verelst lineages thus necessarily pre-dates the origin of the L644 mutation, and because we estimate that L644 originated roughly between the 5th and 8th century AD, we need to go back at least 1300 years to find a common ancestor. I expect that this MRCA lived in northern Germany or Denmark. Best regards, Wim Verelst. On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:49 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Mr. Johan Verelst is listed as a distant ancestral match to my James A Miller. Would you please consider posting a GEDCOM file so we may attempt to locate the connection between Johan and James? Thank you Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How can I find the name of my ancestor that came to Brazil
Ubirajara and Cheri FamilySearch.org has early from 1762 for Recife City, Pernambuco State and Salvador City, Bahia State starting in 1598. These records are a Browse type. Steps to find these records https://familysearch.org/search scroll to the lower section - click on Caribbean, Central and South Americahttps://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1region=CENTRAL_SOUTH_AMERICA click on Brazil - then select Pernambuco or Bahia or whatever state needed then click on Browse through XX images do not panic at the number of images Then pick the Municipality, then parish, then the record type you need to look at Not all records are available for all the time periods. I hope this helps On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Ubirajara Jales de Lira ubja...@gmail.comwrote: My most distant ancestor that I know is Maria Magdalena do Rosário. She was born 1850 more or less, in Brazil. I need find more ancestors to get the ancestor that came to Brazil. Ubirajara. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How can I find the name of my ancestor that came to Brazil
No login required- You just have to click on the arrow to go to the next image On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:02 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Ubirajara, You may have to login with a username and password at the ‘home page’ of Family Search. It should be up in the right-hand corner. Pick a username and then a password. Many of the digital images require that you sign-in. This is something that is requested by the government of whatever country owns the books. Try that and hopefully you will be able to see the digital images. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 04, 2014 2:28 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How can I find the name of my ancestor that came to Brazil Repost for Ubirajara: Marylin, thanks! I do everytihing you told me, but I just can see the book. I can't get see the names of people. Can you help me about this? I found the book where I found out my most distant ancestor from Caicó City, Rio Grande do Norte State, Sant'Ana Parish 1778-1967. She is mother of my great grandmother: Josefa Gomes de Oliveira (1883). Please, help me. Ubirajara. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sketch of DNA, testing companies, and the paper trail
That is quite the tree. On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: This is an interesting sketch of how science, genealogy, and testing companies make up our family tree. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas / Merry Christmas 2013 thread
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL and have a HAPPY NEW YEAR! May your research be merry and bright with success. Marilyn On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Joanne Mercier musicmavene...@gmail.comwrote: Have a Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year!! *Joanne* *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier* Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Marriage Record from 1899
I am not sure why the image is not viewable. I sent feedback and see what I get for an answer and will post again. The marriage is showing:marriage:31 January 1899Marin, California, United States On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Bob C, Go to www.familysearch.org Click on Search. Next screen, scroll down to the bottom and click on United States. Next screen, left column, click California. Then you will see the link for California, County Marriage, 1850-1952. Here's the direct link: http://goo.gl/m90RHP Eddie, It says that you should be able to see the image. But my computer is saying something about a stopped plug-in or something. Otherwise, I think I should be able to view them. As for the newspaper record, you did not state which county. If it's Los Angeles, the Los Angeles Times is online through Proquest. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Marriage Record from 1899
The marriage may not be until 13 February 1899. I believe the license may have been filled out 31 Jan 1899. Without seeing the actual documents these dates could represent the date of license, date of marriage, and /or date the marriage was recorded On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote: I am not sure why the image is not viewable. I sent feedback and see what I get for an answer and will post again. The marriage is showing:marriage: 31 January 1899Marin, California, United States On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Bob C, Go to www.familysearch.org Click on Search. Next screen, scroll down to the bottom and click on United States. Next screen, left column, click California. Then you will see the link for California, County Marriage, 1850-1952. Here's the direct link: http://goo.gl/m90RHP Eddie, It says that you should be able to see the image. But my computer is saying something about a stopped plug-in or something. Otherwise, I think I should be able to view them. As for the newspaper record, you did not state which county. If it's Los Angeles, the Los Angeles Times is online through Proquest. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Marriage Record from 1899
You may want to wait about a week before buying if the need for it is not urgent. The digital copies may be in the process of being uploaded. If I get a reply to my feedback ( usually in 24-48 hours) they may tell me what is happening with the images that are not seen. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Cheri, I am able to view other records from the California, County Marriage, 1850-1952, just not ones from that film. Interesting enough there are 2 records for the marriage date of January 31, 1899 and one for Feb 13, 1899. I contacted Marion County and they said they have a record for Feb 13, 1899. I may just pay the $14 and get a copy from them. -Eddie On Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:27:28 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Bob C, Go to www.familysearch.org Click on Search. Next screen, scroll down to the bottom and click on United States. Next screen, left column, click California. Then you will see the link for California, County Marriage, 1850-1952. Here's the direct link: http://goo.gl/m90RHP Eddie, It says that you should be able to see the image. But my computer is saying something about a stopped plug-in or something. Otherwise, I think I should be able to view them. As for the newspaper record, you did not state which county. If it's Los Angeles, the Los Angeles Times is online through Proquest. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Citizenship
Didn't we have something about this dual citizenship sometime back? I was thinking someone said there were some other requirements. I will try to find what it takes. I qualify for second generation On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:49 PM, David Perry djperr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I miss-spoke when I said all descendants. I believe it's only the first two generations that are eligible but I didn't ask about that since I was the first generation and my children would be the second. I don't know if my grandchildren could become dual citizens based on my citizenship or that of my children should they choose to apply. I'm pretty sure my grandchildren couldn't apply directly based solely on their great grandfather's birth in the Azores. Sorry about any confusion. David Perry On Thursday, December 5, 2013 11:38:03 AM UTC-8, David Perry wrote: FYI - Portugal considers all descendants of folks born in Portugal to be citizens of Portugal. All one needs is an unbroken paper trail back to your ancestor who was born there and you can become a dual citizen of Portugal and the US. My father was born in Sao Miguel and after gathering the proper forms and paying a few hundred dollars to my local Portuguese Consulate, just today after about 9 months, I was notified I'm officially a Portuguese citizen even though I was born in Massachusetts. The only wrinkle in my paper trail was my father changed his name from Pereira to Perry and that would have broken the trail except back in 1938 he officially changed his name in this country. Without that document, it wouldn't have happened. It's easiest to do if a parent was born there, more difficult if it's a grandparent - the trail gets longer and fuzzier - though it's still possible. I did this, not for me - I'm too old to care one way or another but for one son who has expressed a desire to open a BB in semi-retirement in the Azores. He too is eligible since his grandfather was born there and now his father is a citizen as well. Not only does it pave the way for him to work, live and run a business in Portugal but as a citizen of a European Union country, he can essentially do that anywhere in Europe. David . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Stowaways
I think it is in John P. Colletta's book They Came in Ships. I have read Colletta but not the other one. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Jose M, No, not from what I read, at least on the American end. If someone was able to stowaway, they would not be listed on the home country as leaving (otherwise they would not be a stowaway). Usually they would be discovered (they had to eat and use some type of potty after all) and would wind up being listed as an arrival on the American end. I don't remember if that information is from Michael C. Tepper's American Arrival Records or from John P. Colletta's They Came in Ships. Your local public library probably has both books. But I read that in one or the other. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Groom's father - terrible record. And an example of the black zone
Not sure what you are trying to zoom in on. If you are using a pc, push control and roll the wheel on your mouse. One way is bigger the other is smaller. I hope it helps. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Antonio R, Thanks, but now I can't zoom in :( Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ?
Doug Is you article Gateways to Royalty written in English or Portuguese? On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:43 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Freddy, Maybe you got some private replies, but I know many people would love to have your luck in having some ancestors so well documented as to go back over a thousand years. You already got some help with the Minho website. Just verify each record as you go, because it's full of bad assumptions as to parentage, especially in some of the oldest generations on Faial in Cedros and places where they have only baptisms, but no marriages to support them. Some lines are just wishful thinking. John Raposo quoted some of your ancestry from the book by Forjaz and Mendes about the four islands in the Horta district. I don't know whether that has some additional links I haven't found myself. But much of that is also mentioned in an older nobility book about Faial families, called Familias Faialenses. That is available online these days - all in Portuguese, of course, but I believe you are fluent in that. For the oldest generations beyond the Azores, turn to Felgueiras Gayo, a genealogist from the 1700s, if I recall. He wrote many volumes on the noble families of Portugal and you can get back to all the European royalty there. It might also be online. But to answer your exact question, yes you have documented ancestral lines that go back to Guilherme da Silveira of Flanders (Willem van der Hagen). It comes from your Vilalobos line, that branches off to Marramaque and then to Willem vdH. If you follow your Peixoto lines, you will find they get back to some Kings of Aragon. On your Carvalho line, it goes back to more kings of Navarre, Leon and elsewhere. I once wrote an article called Gateways to Royalty and I think I have some additional specifics: www.dholmes.com/articles.html That will occupy at least the next 6 months of your free time. :-) Boa sorte. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ? From: Freddy Garcia fg.street...@gmail.com Date: Wed, November 13, 2013 4:38 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Trying to find the line with my Gr Gr Gr Grandfather Francisco da Silveira Villalobos born 19 April 1791 ancestor of King William I of England, and then there's is a possible connection with Willem van der Haegen , any help would be great, thanks, Freddy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GeneWeb to Gedcom
I agree with Cheri, try out the sample programs. I however am an Ancestral Quest user. There is a free version of AQ available online to download. It is usable, but does not include all of the goodies that come with the full version. I am biased because AQ is written by a friend of mine. He is the one that originally wrote the PAF program. On the AQ website, I believe there is a place to email questions or a phone number to call with questions. Marilyn On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Freddy G, I'm not sure what you mean by GeneWeb. Is your genealogy in the cloud? There should be a command of File Export and you can create a Gedcom that way. Ancestral Quest was supposed to be the next program after PAF. Everyone will tell you that their program is the best, of course! The 4 most popular genealogy software programs on the market (for a PC) are Family Tree Maker (FTM) by Ancestry.com (no free trial), Legacy Family Tree (their standard edition is free), RootsMagic (their Essentials is free), and The Master Genealogist (TMG) which is free for a 30 day trial period. Download Legacy, RM, and TMG and play with them all. Make up some people (George Washington, Bugs Bunny), have Daisy Duck married to Donald and a child by Bugs Bunny and see how the software handles it. Have people with the same name (3 or 4 George Washingtons - one born 1722, another born 1799, another born 1850, and the last one born 1900 and see how to distinguish between them all). Legacy has a fairly intuitive interface and is pretty powerful. RM has the smallest learning curve and has a portability option (RootsMagic to Go) with their paid version. TMG has the largest learning curve, is the most powerful, is completely customizable and has really good filters for handing people of the same name. When I give my Genealogy Software Review speech, I tell those who are nervous computer users to try RM first (Essentials) and see how they like it. I tell people who don't want to spend too much time learning a program but want it to do more to try Legacy. I tell people who are annoyed that their program won't do this or that and who are comfortable with the computer to try out TMG. Because FTM doesn't have a free trial it's hard to say what to do with that program. If you go to your local genealogy society, someone probably has it and can show you what it looks like and what is does. I belong to a Users Group for my genealogy software program. People come to our meetings who are checking out the other programs because they don't like the one that they are currently using. See if there are any User Groups in your area. RM, Legacy, and TMG has a User Groups tab on their respective web sites. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Images from CCA
Family Search.org/ Family Tree is in the beta testing of uploading documents to the website. I am wondering if anyone knows if there would be any problem if documents from the CCA website were uploaded to FamilyTree. I am only talking about individuals uploading a baptism, marriage, and/or death record. Would CCA object? I am asking because you have to say you have the right to post the documents. Any thoughts or opinions? Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with date of marriage
I am not very good with dates, but shouldn't it be 23 Mar 1807 On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote: Thank you Joao! On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:35:51 PM UTC-4, Joao S. Lopes wrote: 27-mar-1807 : vinte tres dias do mes de Marco de mil oito centos e cete, in Modern Portuguese, vinte e tres dias do mes de Março de mil oitocentos e sete. Joao S.Lopes -- *De:* Lee shor...@suddenlink.net *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Enviadas:* Segunda-feira, 14 de Outubro de 2013 21:13 *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with date of marriage I've attached the link below for the marriage of Joze Raposo and Quiteria Maria. http://culturacores.azores.**gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-** PD-GINETES-C-1782-1818/SMG-PD-**GINETES-C-1782-1818_item1/**P130.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1782-1818/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1782-1818_item1/P130.html I can't quite figure out the date of the marriage, can someone please help me with this? Greatly appreciated. Thanks! Lee -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] more DNA testing
My mother's first cousin is a male, Gil. Their fathers were brothers. I have done a family finder test myself. If I have Gil tested would I be best off to have him do a Y-DNA test or family finder? Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Trip - Cousins Found
Wow Wow, that is really great. When we were on the island we too went down to the Faja de Sao Joao. That road is really bad. It is a white knuckle ride. I would love to be able to see what information you have gathered on the Goncalves family on Sao Jorge. All of the area described above we have visited. Marilyn On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, Lisa , what a great story! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder In Common With function
OK I guess I am just very dense. I do not know where to find the In Common
With section on FTDNA. I have confirmed several on the known relationship
page as Distant Cousins, but do not know where to go from there. I did ask
that 2 of them add a GEDCOM. One person, John E Machado, I can see where
the connection is in our families. The other 3 with GEDCOMs do not extend
far enough to make a connection. I will request that they add to their
pedigree.
Please help me understand the In Common With function. I have had a
cousin [not Azores side] test YDNA and I have done the FF.
Would it be any help if I have my mom's first cousin also test? They shared
grandparents on both sides of the paternal line. {1st cousins married]
Marilyn
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Susan,
It may have been Doug da Rocha Holmes who started a thread about In
Common With. But with the latest round of results, it doesn't hurt to
mention it again.
If I don't know the relationship, I assign Distant Cousin and then I can
run the filter for In Common With. They don't have to accept the
relationship in order for me to run the filter. FTDNA is supposed to
change this where we won't have to assign a relationship in order to run
the filter. We will just be able to to it. Don't know when this is coming
though. They told us last November at the conference and it hasn't
happened yet (they keep IT pretty busy).
For people who tested themselves and one parent (because the other is
deceased) can run the filter for Not In Common With to get the other side
of their tree.
Once you get 3 people confirmed from the same ancestor, you have done a
triangulation and you will start to see other matches hitting on the same
people. The puzzle pieces start to fit together and things start to make
sense. But it takes time. This is what will need to happen with you and
Joao C. Ventura.
Because there's more of us Azoreans than either Madeirans or Continentals
doing our genealogy and DNA testing, we are going to have more matches than
either the Madeirans or mainland Portugal. You've got the DNA Admins on
this list with megaphones shouting every time there's a match or sale!
It's not happening as much on the Madeira or Portugal lists. They need
some big mouths over there!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Exhibit: Azorean Farmers in California’s Central Valley – Community
That is so interesting. My husband and I will be going to the Fresno area soon. We will have to try and see the museum. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:47 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Here is another interesting story to read and to check out if you ever find yourself in the Visalia area: http://portuguese-american-journal.com/exhibit-azorean-farmers-in-californias-central-valley-community/ E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] San Francisco, California Online records
The Daily Review ( Hayward, California) only had a brief Obit dated April 4, 1975 ALDORA PINTO, of Fremont, died April 3, Services pending at Chapel of the Roses Mortuary. 1940 Peralta Blvd., Fremont I have found the full Obit for Aldora Pinto in the Oakland paper. I will email you a copy of both of these. Marilyn Thompson On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: ** Hi E: I am subscribed to Ancestry.com. How do I find the Hayward area newspapers on Ancestry.com? This is what I am looking for: Do you think that you could find the entire obituary for the following? From Oakland Tribune, 5 Apr 1975, Oakland, California: Aldora B. Pinto, of Stafford, Texas, formerly of Union City, April 2 1975; loving wife of Manuel C. Pinto, Jr., of Stafford Texas; loving mother of Richard A. Pinto of Fremont and Mervin T. Pinto of Houston, Texas; loving sister of Alfred Duarte of Placerville, Rudolph Duarte of Sunnyvale, Clarence Duarte of Fremont, etc. _ I need the whole thing. My husband's Aunt MYRTLE AMARAL, should be listed too. Thanks Shirley - Original Message - *From:* E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2011 4:15 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] San Francisco, California Online records Carol, Hayward area newspapers are on Ancestry.com. Do you need something particular, I can look it up for you? E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] gedcom posted ftdna
I think you and I match, but I am away from home for about two more weeks, so I will have to check out your GEDCOM when I return. Thanks for telling us. Marilyn On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:40 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm sending this to the group because over the last several years I've discussed FTDNA matches with several connections cousins and remote connectionsI have finally posted my gedcom to FTDNA in hopes that we can find the sources of those matches and don't want to neglect mentioning it to those with whom I spoke regarding this in the not so recent past. Thanks, Nancy Jean Baptista Sao Jorge, Pico and Santa Maria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] gedcom posted ftdna
I meant to bring my kit number and password, bit I forgot them. I have not looked at my matches for awhile. Maybe with the improved research we can figure out how we are related to each other and others in the group. On May 10, 2013 12:00 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Marilyn, Yes, you were one of my very first matches!!! Nancy Jean -- Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:49:12 -0600 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] gedcom posted ftdna From: mari...@jmtmlt.com To: azores@googlegroups.com I think you and I match, but I am away from home for about two more weeks, so I will have to check out your GEDCOM when I return. Thanks for telling us. Marilyn On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:40 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm sending this to the group because over the last several years I've discussed FTDNA matches with several connections cousins and remote connectionsI have finally posted my gedcom to FTDNA in hopes that we can find the sources of those matches and don't want to neglect mentioning it to those with whom I spoke regarding this in the not so recent past. Thanks, Nancy Jean Baptista Sao Jorge, Pico and Santa Maria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] gedcom posted ftdna
Thx I got in but did not see the change password link On May 10, 2013 6:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, I will send your kit number in a separate email and will tell you where the link is for Forgot Password. FTDNA issues a password, but now you are able to change it to one of your own too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage certificate
A film ( film # 2209075) could be ordered from any Family History Center in your area. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 5:57 AM, joe m joe.mudd...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone help me obtain the original marriage certificate from this attachment.Thanx joe matias -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My turn for a trip...
There is a Portuguese Hawaiian History Center in downtown Oahu. Others may know the exact location. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Eric Gomes gomes.ances...@gmail.comwrote: I am headed West next week and will be headed to the Islands for the week. I will be on Oahu beginning this Saturday. Unfortunately, I can't get to Maui or Hawaii. I am hoping that I can fit some time in for records research. We will be staying in the hills above Honolulu. Is there somewhere I can go to do some research relatively local to Honolulu? Thanks in advance. Eric. -- Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA Surnames: Gomes, Smith, Townsend, Lopes, Cabral, Erwin, Kennedy, Rodman, Rodrigues, and many more. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Process
Thanks for the link. I have done some testing of family members and in-law family members. This really helped to make it a lot clearer. I will have to study the results more closely and make contact with some of the matches. Marilyn T On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote: Hi all. Thanks for this link. I've been dragging my feet about doing the DNA thing because it's so far beyond my comprehension about how to interpet the results that I didn't know where to start. This information helped. My mom is my family Azorean ancestor, and her father is 100%, his father from (near as I have been able to get) St Michael's and mother from Flores. I have always been confused how to get my Portuguese DNA information if it traces back from my mom to her father. I'm thinking the autosomal test would be the best place to start. Am I on track with this?? CindyD Pimentel, Sylvia of New Bedford On Friday, March 22, 2013 1:51:56 PM UTC-5, E Sharp wrote: Hi List For anyone interested in the DNA process you will find this very interesting. It comes from Ireland. http://freepages.genealogy.**rootsweb.ancestry.com/~**spearin/btop.htmlhttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spearin/btop.html E -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] switching names - research tip
Great post, it also helps me to understand that in one record an ancestor was listed as Rita Josefa and in another as Josefa Rita. thanks Marilyn On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:33 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: For all new Portuguese genealogists: I have run across something just tonight during my research that I think will help out researchers who haven't had enough experience to decide on their own whether a particular record is for their sought ancestor, or not. I met online a man from Terceira who now lives in CA and so has 100% of his ancestors from Terceira. He is from the village of São Mateus da Calheta, which is a little west of the city of Angra. A beautiful church is right on the main road that encircles the island. Since I happen to have many ancestors from São Mateus - it's where my surname combination was created (Rocha Homem/Holmes), I knew there is practically a guarantee that we would be related many times over. Having an interest in his own ancestry, he immediately sent me a list of many ancestors going back to the 1600s in many cases. While looking over his data and comparing it to mine, I was reminded of the topic of this message. Amongst his ancestors are a series of ancestors who used the name FERREIRA da SOUSA as well as FERREIRA BRIOSO. It happened with several generations of this line. One might find them one time listed as Francisco Ferreira de Sousa and at another time as Francisco Ferreira Brioso. Knowing it is the same person comes from the constant name of the wife and all happening in one village and time period. On another of his lines he has ancestors named GOMES RIBEIRO. This ancestor was also called RIBEIRO GOMES. Each time, it is known to be the same person because it was the same name for his wife. But topping it off, when he married, he used yet a third name of MARTINS RIBEIRO. I don't believe I have ever run across this before. And one must use extreme caution when making such a conclusion, or you could end up tracing all the wrong ancestors. To be certain, one must carefully study all the names for all children in the family. Some will be exactly the same as others. Some will be different than the others, but match those of other siblings. But when it came to this marriage, I was at a loss, because it should have happened in one of the villages such as São Mateus, São Bartolomeu, Santa Bárbara or maybe in Sé, Angra. But I have completed all the marriages for these places in this time frame and still came up empty. Just for the heck of it, I decided to search my entire database contained in my genealogy program. There are over 225,000 people so far entered. I figured I must have found this marriage already. So I searched for the name of the wife and then just RIBEIRO for the husband. I don't know if all genealogy programs can do this. I only use BROTHER'S KEEPER and have done so for about 25 years. Others will surely tell me if they can search for people in this way. If they can't then I would never want such a genealogy program, because I would be lost and have many duplicate couples under different names which I try extremely hard to avoid. Well, I did find a second match and it was in one of those villages, as I expected. And it was in a time frame I expected. What I never expected was this third name variation - MARTINS RIBEIRO. But I even went back and looked at this marriage yet again. Clear as day it's Martins Ribeiro. And he even has a father and brother using Martins Ribeiro. So this is no mistake. I had no children attached to that couple whose marriage I had found. I only had children attached to the them when they used the first two name variations. Just so you know, these are not my ancestors. They are simply part of my massive project to trace the genealogies of everyone who ever was born or lived in Terceira (and also Pico island). So until today, I never searched for baptisms for this couple and when I found the first child with the reversal of RIBEIRO GOMES to GOMES RIBEIRO, it all started to fall into place what was going on here - the common name variation that one always will find in any Portuguese tree. I don't expect anyone will ever find such an example as above. But one will ALWAYS find that one person in their family tree (in Portugal) has a name variation that will throw a curve ball your way and make you think something is wrong. If you have ancestors from Pico or Terceira and are stuck, let me know. Boa sorte! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptismo- Sao Roque, Sao Miguel
I did not wind up going to the FHL today. Too much snow this morning. I will be going on Wednesday. I will keep an eye out for your family members. Yes Sao Roque is right next to Ponta Delgada. No open space inbetween. You can not tell when you make the change from one to the other. I am sure the residence know the boundries. Marilyn On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:08 AM, Betty bbffr...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Marilyn, My husband's grandfather and his parents lived in the village of Sao Roque on Sao Miguel.I'm told it is directly beside Ponta Delgada. Antonio PACHECO was born there ~1885.I don't know when his parents were born, but can .guess around 1850's. They were Joao PACHECO and Jacinta COSTA. I know nothing else about that couple, so I don't know about their siblings, or about other children they might have had. Around 1905 Antonio, at Age 20, migrated to the US and settled in Cambridge, MA. I do not know who he traveled with, and I don't know if he had relatives here. (I have posted many times on this Group and on the Lists at www.rootsweb.com ) In Cambridge, Tony married Elsie MOURA who had arrived in MA/US as a 12-yr-old.She went to live with a family in Boston. Around Age 19 she married Tony in Cambridge. Her mother and 4 siblings came over, also.I can't find Francisco MOURA (the father) after his family came to MA/US. Just an FYI for you. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (Because of my husband's serious illness 2 yrs. ago, I have not been active in genealogy for that time.He is fine now, about 90% recovered from 9 hrs. of brain surgery 2 yrs. ago.) On Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:38:38 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Can anyone tell me if the records for 1833 Sao, Roque, Sao Miguel are online? I did not find them, but was not sure if I was looking in the right place. If not is there anyone their that would do a lookup? -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo- Sao Roque, Sao Miguel
Can anyone tell me if the records for 1833 Sao, Roque, Sao Miguel are online? I did not find them, but was not sure if I was looking in the right place. If not is there anyone their that would do a lookup? -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo- Sao Roque, Sao Miguel
Thanks to all. I will be at the FHLibrary in the morning. I did not know the Rosto de Cao name. I have been to Sao Roque, in fact I have cousins that live there, but they do not do research. Again Thanks to All On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Nancy Couto nvcouto...@gmail.com wrote: The library in Salt Lake City has the following records from Sao Roque (Rosto de Cao): Batismos from 1556-1879 Nascimentos (registro civil) from 1841-1883 with omissions Perfilhacoes e legitimacoes for 1881 and 1878 (looks as if they have only these years) Casamentos from 1622-1879 Casamentos (registro civil) from 1845-1848 Obitos from 1600-1879 Obitos (registro civil) from 1839-1851, 1862-1872, and 1872-1881. Obitos (de criancas) from 1811-1860. File numbers from 1330792-1330797. It will be a while before the records come on line. They're only up to the Fs. But I can hardly wait. Nancy On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:00 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: One must search for Portugal, Açores, Ponta Delgada, Rosto de Cão, on the Family Search website. Manoel To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores trip
When we went to the islands back in 1999 and 2001 the boats were not available in the early part of May. That may have changed. We flew from Lisboa to Sao Miguel to Terceira to Sao Jorge back to Terceira to Lisboa. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, janet laytham jwlayt...@msn.com wrote: Do not travel the Azores by boat without a good supply of seasickness meds. The boats are designed for cargo, not for people. They rock and roll excessively. I took Dramamine before a 4 hour trip. I had given the rest of the pills away before we were even out of the harbor! The crew was very solicitous and passed out sick bags and promptly collected the used ones which they threw overboard. The bags were blue. We called the trip the Blue Bag Special. On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Lorraine Price designther...@cox.net wrote: ** *We’re planning a trip to the Azores in May. Does anyone know of any planned trips, good deals, air fares, hotels? I’m guessing the main airport is in San Miguel. We’ll want to travel to Graciosa (my family’s birthplace) and probably Terciera, by boat? plane?. Any other suggestions? What about a driver/tour guide? Thanks much!* -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. ** -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Silvina Cunha
Dano I had not ever heard that explaination as to how the Flemish came to the Azores. That is very interestng. May I ask where you found the information? I would like to read it. Thanks for posting Marilyn On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: Dano, I really appreciate your concise description of how the Flemish came to the Azores. May I have your permission to use it in my family tree? Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dano Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:45 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Silvina Cunha The surname Rose is the anglicized version of the Portuguese surname Rosa, which in turn is the Portuguese adaptation of the Flemish surname Roos. Background: After the Azores were discovered, Prince Henry found it difficult to get the pampered Portuguese nobility to leave their comfortable surroundings on the continent, and venture off into the vast unknown ocean to live in isolation, on a few islands bereft of all of those aforementioned comforts. A timely intervention by Henry's cousin, the Duchess of Lancaster, who appealed to Henry on behalf of the Flemish people, after they had been left destitute in the aftermath of a war for the Netherlands. So, Henry agreed to invite the Flemish people to migrate to, and populate the islands of the Azores (two problems solved). They settled mostly in the central group of islands (Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, and Graciosa). The result of the Flemish colonization brought with it new customs and new names, which the Portuguese islanders accepted, and so, the Flemish were quickly assimilated into the Azorian society. On Oct 30, 9:14 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Michelle Cunha, cunha.michelle at gmail.com: Hi all, I googled Silvina Cunha and came across a thread from 2007. I believe Silvina may be in my line. I'd like to be able to authenticate the information by contacting the cities and gaining birth, marriage, and death certificates. Also, is Rose a Portuguese name or is it an Americanized version of a Portuguese name? If it is Americanized, what is the original word? Silvina had two sisters named Rose and Mary. I assume Mary was actually Marie but am unsure of what Rose would've been. Suggestions? Peace, Michelle -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA Project: New Administrator
Why am I not finding any close matches? Just kidding I know you can not control that. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: The Azores DNA Project now has 3 administrators to help you: Cheri Mello Rick Pimentel Nancy Jean Baptiste You'll be seeing more posts from Nancy Jean about DNA as she gets more comfortable with project. Katherine Borges who founded the project is still listed as an administrator, but she rarely answers questions anymore. So us 3 will be answering them for you. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin Azores DNA Project -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carreiro from Maia to Kauai to Fall River
I did a paper in college about the Portuguese in Hawaii. They were not treated will. They were treated like the slaves in the Southern United States. They completed their required years of service for their passage to Hawaii and then left the islands. Some went to California. Marilyn On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Diane ddon...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi Mel I found one of your statements of interest in this story. You wonder what drew Manuel away from Hawaii. I am going through the same dilemma with my GGrandfather Joaquim Machado Pereira from Sao Jorge who left Hawaii and went to Australia in about 1870. In his case I think it was something to do with the whaling industry. Cheers Diane Donnon (South Australia) On Monday, 23 April 2007 11:19:04 UTC+9:30, IslandRoutes wrote: I've been researching this family associated with my de Braga family tree and now it looks like I'm double connected. Manoel Carreiro (son Jose Carreiro Maria Augusta do Couto) of Maia, m. Maria Claudina (dau of Jose Muniz Serpa Claudina Perreira). They migrated to Hawaii in 1882 on the Hansa. Manoel's sister, Francisca, married on of my gr gr grandfather's cousin's, Diniz de Braga. They also went to Kauai. I couldn't find Manoel's family in Hawaii, but in 1900 two of his children are living with Diniz and Francisca. A couple of years ago, another researcher contacted me about a Manuel Carreiro of Fall River, MA. It turns out this Manuel Carreiro was the son of Manoel Carreiro and Maria Claudina. Manuel Jr. left Kauai and married Annine Cecila Silva in Fall River, MA in 1901. I have been trying to learn more about this family because it fascinates me. I wonder what drew Manuel Jr away from Hawaii. Almost everyone else in the family who left Hawaii ended up in Monterey Co. or Oakland, CA. This is my first known instance of a Hawaii cousin going to Massachusetts. Recenlty, I've learned that their may have been more Muniz Serpa's who came to Fall River, MA. I'm following the trail of Ignes M. Serpa, dau of Francisco M. Serpa Ermelinda da Camara, who married my distant cousins Jacintho Pacheco Remigio in Fall River, 25 Jan 1905. I'm not certain yet but I believe the Ignes is related to Maria Claudina (Muniz Serpa) Carreiro. I'm still trying to piece it altogether, but it appears that their were Carriero's and Muniz Serpa's of the same family in Fall River as early as 1900 on Columbia St. They had my de Mello Castanho's living with them which would make a whole circle of connections to Maia, Ribeira Grande. Is anyone connected to the Carreiro/Muniz Serpa/de Braga/Pacheco Remigio/de Mello Castanho's of Fall River, MA and Maia, Ribeira Grande? Perhaps there is someone who has the missing clues to the puzzle. Thanks Mel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [PT-MADEIRA] [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA's Flash Weekend Sale (Fri, Sept. 28 through Sun, Sept 30)
I do not seem to be related closely to anyone in the group. Both sides of my grandparents are from Sao Jorge. G. I will check the matches again. Marilyn On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Cheryl Lawrence cheryl...@gmail.comwrote: Speaking of family finder, new matches are in!! I got two, my uncle got three, and my fiancee got 3. Time to start sending emails!! On Sep 30, 2012 8:45 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tex, mtDNA Full Sequence will focus on your mother's mother's mother's line only. And it will take time to get meaningful, genealogical matches. Family Finder will go back on all lines on your pedigree about 200 years. So if you were born in the 1930s, for example, you will have DNA from all your ancestor going back to the 1730s. You will also get matches right away. If you are 100% Portuguese, you can expect 2-4 pages of matches at 10 people on a page. Since just mtDNA and Family Finder are on sale, I'd do Family Finder first. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy 7th Birthday to the Azores Genealogy List!
Thanks for all of your support and knowledge, Cheri On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:53 PM, looking4root...@yahoo.com wrote: Congrats and thanks for starting and maintaining this awesome group, Cheri. Deb Sent from my iPad On Sep 25, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: This list will be 7 years old on the 27th! The first post was on the 28th. I can't believe this has been going on 7 years already! Today, our 1000th member signed up! There are 1000 email addresses subscribed to his list now. Seven years ago, I thought I would wind up with 300 or maybe 350 members. As those numbers approached, I thought maybe 500 would be it. I'm amazed at the number of people doing Azorean genealogy. May the list, our web site at Azores Gen Web, and especially the spirit of helping among our members continue for more years to come! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Emailing: Obit Manuel Jose Fraga 1836
Very interesting, Thanks for posting On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: Mary; How interesting! I had no idea midwifes had this power.. Thanks for sharing, Sam in CA ** ** *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Bordi *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Emailing: Obit Manuel Jose Fraga 1836*** * ** ** On Sep 12, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Altino Demelo demelo.alt...@yahoo.com wrote: ** ** Sam, think that in instances where a baby is close to death, the priest is called quickly to baptize the infant. I don't think a midwife is allowed to baptize a child. ** ** For the record-- ** ** (From Catholic Encyclopedia at http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10287a.htm) ** ** As regards the sacrament of baptismhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm the office of midwives is of the highest importance. On them frequently devolves the duty http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05215a.htm of conferring thissacrament, under circumstances where no other person'shttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11726a.htm ministration is possible. Hence, the Churchhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htmhas always been most solicitious concerning the character of midwives and their instruction in thisreligious dutyhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05215a.htm. Canonists teach that women http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15687b.htm who undertake the office of midwife are bound under mortal sinhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14004b.htm to learn the methods and requirements of valid baptismhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm, as in case of necessity this dutyhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05215a.htmfrequently devolves upon them. There has been much legislation on this subject in various diocesanhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05001a.htm synods http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14388a.htm, whose canons place special obligations http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11189a.htm on parishhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11499b.htm priests http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12406a.htm and midwives. The former are reminded that, as midwives in conferring baptismhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm act in place of the parish http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11499b.htm priesthttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12406a.htm, he is strictly bound to in form himself whether they have sufficient knowledge http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08673a.htm to administer the sacramentvalidly. Some diocesanhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05001a.htm synods http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14388a.htm require that midwives, before being approved for dutyhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05215a.htm, take an oath http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11176a.htmthat they will labor to procure the spiritual safety of infant and mother. When a new-born child has been baptizedhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm by a midwife, the parish http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11499b.htm priesthttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12406a.htm must inquire carefully whether she had the properintention and administered the rite according to the prescriptions of the Churchhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htm. If there is anyreason to doubthttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05141a.htm, the baptism http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm is to be repeated conditionally (Catch. Rom., II, ii, § 43); but if it becertain that the sacrament was properly conferred it may not be repeated (c. Majores, 3 de bapt; Conc. Trid. Sess. VI, can. ix), and only the other ceremonies are to be supplied by the parishhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11499b.htm priest http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12406a.htm. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New to group also
With issue means he had children On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Elizabeth Migliori lizmi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Patricia, Reading this post brings back childhood memories. Grew up with Dutra's on Turner Rd in Middletown. Father Manuel, mother Dottie (Dorothy I guess last maiden name Costa) My siblings and I went to school with their children Paul, Peter, Jack, Jeanne and Martin. Dottie and my mom were good friends. Thanks for the flash back. Liz On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Patricia Paquette mee...@aol.com wrote: My Grandfathers name was Joao (John -he went by Arruda in RI. )On the list below he was Joao d'Arruda Botleho-it says with issue-what does that mean? He was born 7/12/1882 and died 8/14th 1970. His wife (my Grandmother) was from Faial probably Cedros and they got married in Newport at St. Mary's church-her name was Mary (?Maria) Amelia Dutra daughter of Frank P and Rose Amelia Dutra. I am unsure if if the person referred to on Geneall.net referred to as Rosa Perreira Duarte is also her. They lived in Middletown RI all their married lives. I believe her siblings were Antone Dutra (Sacramento California) John, Ana and Manuel Dutra all resided in Middletown, Rose who stayed in the Azores(MIddletown, R.I.). There is a close connection to Escobars but I am a little unsure on how. My great Grandma I believe had a cousin Goulart and I believe this is the person referenced in Meredith Vieira's geneology that was referenced on The today show piece on Mereidth's geneology that is available on line. Appreciate any info . Thanks so much On Aug 26, 2012, at 8:02 AM, John Raposo wrote: If I had a little bit more information I might be able help. I do have quite a bit on your grandfather's side and might be able find the connection to your grandmother's side: 1 - José de Arruda Botelho e Câmara, b. 25.6.1852 inS. Pedro de Ponta Delgada where he married on 3.4.1875, toA na Leite Borges Bicudo . They had:: 2- Francisco de Arruda Botelho, b. 4.5.1876 in S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada and d. in 1903 in the US with no issue. 2- Pedro de Arruda Botelho, b. in S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada on 28.4.1878. Hew went to the US, married there and d. on 17.12.1947. With issue.. 2- Maria Evelina Bicudo Arruda, m. in Conceição da Ribeira Grande, on 18.10.1909, toAntónio Bernardo de Carvalho, widower of Hortênsia de Teves Ferreira. They had: 3- Gil de Arruda Carvalho, employed by the port authority. Married in Ponta Delgada. 2- Manuel Bicudo Arruda, employed by the tax office. M. Berta Maria de Medeiros Pereira. No issue. 2- José de Arruda Botelho, went to the US where he died on 18.2.1952. M. in the US to Teresa da Silva Brum, from Capelo. They had:: 3- José de Arruda Botelho, m, d. in Califórnia. With issue. 3- Maria, married in Califórnia. 3- Lucilia, died single in Califórnia. 3- Irene, married in Califórnia. 3- Laura. 2- João d’Arruda Botelho, went to the US where he married. With issue. 2- António d'Arruda Botelho, b. in S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada on 15.1.1886. Lived in Fenais da Luz Married 1st time in S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada, in 1924, to Maria Angelina Raposo, of Fenais da Luz, daughter of Vicente Raposo de Almeida Viveiros and Maria Eugénia Pontes. Married 2nd time to Maria Marcolina de Medeiros, of Fenais da Luz. With issue from 1st marrieage. 2- Cecília Bicudo Arruda, went to the US where she married Manuel Mansinho. With issue. Let me know if I can help. What was your grandfather's name? John Miranda Raposo (marra...@yhoo.com) *From:* Patricia Paquette mee...@aol.com *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:55 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] New to group also I have also recently joined this group. I have alot of info on my Grandfathers side because he was a descendent of Jose De Arruda Botelho e Camara (1852 ) and Ana Leite Borges Bicundo from Sao Miguel . What I am having difficulty researching is my Grandmothers side. She is from Faiaal-I believe Cedros born 8/12/1893 and her name was Mary Amelia Dutra. Her parents I believe were Frank P. Dutra and Rose Amelia Dutra. She married my grandfather in Newport RI 5/4th 1914. I believe the P in her parents name was for Perry. Other names that seemed to be linked are Escobar and Rosa or Da Rosa. She is also in some way related to Meredith Vieira formerly of The Today Show. Any guidance this group could give me in this search would be appreciated. Thank you Pat --To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+ unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opportunity Saudade
This is a very insightful paper. I am not quite finished with it yet, but have already determined that I will send a copy to all of my children. Hopefully they will have a better understanding of a portion of their heritage. Thanks for posting this link. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:32 AM, spp1...@gmail.com wrote: Felicia Angeja Viator has written a very good paper about Azorean immigrants in California after WW II, published in Hindsight, a publication of the History Dept. at Fresno State. Gives a lot of insight into the Azorean immigrant experience at the time, especially for women. It's a 28-page PDF: http://www.fresnostate.edu/socialsciences/historydept/organizations/hindsight/spring2012.html -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 for 1 deal to Boston - Sao Miguel - November - SATA
Thanks for the info, I will keep an eye open and sign up for the notifications from the airlines. MLT On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:59 AM, bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Last week Southwest had a Fall sale (they usually post their sales every Tuesday, I signed up on their site for notification) and I was able to get a fare from Sacramento to Manchester NH (I'm sure it was probably the same price or close to it for Boston) for the end of September 2012 for $306.80 RT. I like Southwest because if you have to cancel, they don't give you a refund, unless you buy the senior fare, but they do give you a credit for the amount and you have to use it one year from the date you made the reservation, which is exactly what I did as I had a reservation to Salt Lake to attend Cheri's conference which I had to cancel last minute so I used these credits. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 for 1 deal to Boston - Sao Miguel - November - SATA
Thanks, now I just have to get my husband to commit to going. I also have a daughter thinking about going MLT On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *I use Priceline.com to scout out prices and then go right to the airline site to get the tickets. It is easier dealing with the airline than Priceline. Usually tickets are cheaper to Boston than Manchester unless you are visiting in NH then Manchester is a great airport to get in and out of. * * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Katharine *Sent:* Friday, June 22, 2012 8:16 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 for 1 deal to Boston - Sao Miguel - November - SATA ** ** Marilyn, it may still be too soon to find deeply discounted airfares online between the west and Boston -- assuming that you, like me, are willing to accept restrictions in order to get the lowest possible price. In general, the US airlines list their cheapest fares about *5-6 WEEKS BEFORE* departure date. However, I like to start stalking airfares about 10 weeks before departure date so I have some notion of the market, although I know that usually the price I'm willing to pay isn't available for about another month. (I check Expedia, but there are other similar aggregator sites, as well as a few airlines that aren't listed on any of them, e.g., Southwest). In off-season (ca. October-April), SATA typically flies only between Boston and Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, and only on Tuesdays and Fridays (except for a smattering of extra flights around various major holidays), with Tuesday fares generally a bit lower. However, domestic US fares to/from Boston tend to be significantly lower on Tuesdays than Fridays, so substantial savings on those might help you decide, if your schedule permits. One smart move SATA has made lately is to schedule their return flight from PDL to BOS for a few hours earlier than it used to, so that it's due to arrive in late afternoon, allowing sufficient time for connecting passengers to clear Customs, then make the next flight (previously, their flights arrived so late that a continuing passenger had to spend the night in Boston, and hotels there are pricey). Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions. Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 for 1 deal to Boston - Sao Miguel - November - SATA
Thanks, the other two times I have been to Sao Miguel it was in early May. Now I just hae to find a good price from the west to Boston. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: We were in São Miguel, São Jorge and Terceira in late October-early November one year, and the weather was lovely -- not as warm/muggy as summer (which I don't like), but still mild, sort of like my beloved native San Francisco Bay Area. It only seriously rained 1 day out of 10 (but hey, that's what museums are for!), plus brief showers on a few other days, so pack an umbrella and light jacket. Best of all, practically no other tourists, so you can really get a feel for the place (it was my husband's first time there), and tourist attractions aren't crowded. Boa viagem! Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 for 1 deal to Boston - Sao Miguel - November - SATA
WOW that looks very inviting. We may have to take advantage of this offer. On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 9:12 PM, bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Listers, Here is a good deal if you are planning on going to the Azores from Boston in November. http://www.travpr.com/pr-15711-fall-comes-early-with-2.html E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
Maderios On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: I am hoping that someone can read this record of my grt grandfathers draft record, it lists where he was born but I can't make it out on my screen. search ancestry.com for Jose Pinheiro World war I draft registration, it shows an address at 854 Locust, fall river,ma. born Feb 11, 1896 Thank You so much Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
thanks but it was Mike that posted, I answered On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:06 PM, jojo8...@comcast.net wrote: Marilyn, I think that the record says Mosteiros, Sao Miguel Azores. Joanne Souza -- *From: *Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com *To: *azores@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:56:38 AM *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please Maderios On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: I am hoping that someone can read this record of my grt grandfathers draft record, it lists where he was born but I can't make it out on my screen. search ancestry.com for Jose Pinheiro World war I draft registration, it shows an address at 854 Locust, fall river,ma. born Feb 11, 1896 Thank You so much Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry Charts Poster size
What size are you talking about? 24 x 24 or larger? I have had kinkos print some large charts. I do not know how the prices would be compared between them. If you have other copy places compare prices. I have seen sample prints from the company you are asking about and they do a nice job. Hope this helps On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone printed big charts and if so where? I have been looking for years to have one printed I found this place and I am just wondering if anyone has used them or another place.. http://www.familygraphics.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passenger Ships for the Port of New York, NY from Fayal, Azores
I have been watching your post as to the arrival of your GGM. May I ask, where your informtion came from? Marilyn I have a question regarding immigration information on my Great Grandmother. I found out today that my great-grandmother, Mary (Rose) Silveira entered the port of New York, NY on April 23, 1890. She was 12-months old. She immigrated with her father and mother, Joseph and Gertrude Rose. She immigrated from Fayal, Azores. I don't have the ship name. Is there any way to find out what ships entered the port of New York on 4/23/1890? I have done a google search, yet I am unable to find specific ship names, coming from Azores, on this date. Any help would be greatly appreciated. **Also, what is the portuguese spelling of Gertrude? Thanks so much. Fawn fawniesrose2...@yahoo.com -- -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need marriage help - Not Azorean
What area are you searching for these people and what time period? On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu wrote: E, There are two great libraries in Southern California, both have Southern states, but the one in Burbank used to specialize in that region. I'd be glad to share their addresses, if you ever plan to go down to that part of the state. Gayle From: bellema...@gmail.commailto:bellema...@gmail.com Reply-To: azores@googlegroups.commailto:azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:19:19 + To: azores Azores@googlegroups.commailto:Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need marriage help - Not Azorean Hi All, This is off topic but I am hoping someone on this list can give me some guidance. I found the following on Ancestry: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Name: Eliza Jarratt Spouse Name: James Mcneal Number Pages: 1 Source Citation: Source number: 273.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JWJ. Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie. Description: This database contains marriage record information for approximately 1,400,000 individuals from across all 50 United States and 32 different countries around the world between 1560 and 1900. These records, which include information on over 500 years of marriages, were extracted from family group sheets, electronic databases, biographies, wills, and other sources. My husband's gggrandfather was James McNeil/McNeal b. abt. 1799 SC or GA. We know his wife's name is Eliza from census records. We are trying to find out if this Eliza Jarratt could be her but Ancestry only give the above info. How do I find out where to find out more on this marriage? Thank you. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas index at the end of 1689-1700 book
The document shows up. I just am not one who can read it/ MLT On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just posted this and see that the document that I attached does not show up. I emailed it from my regular email. Is there another way to post a document here? There are no options from the site that I can find. thanks, Suzanne On Feb 18, 9:25 am, Suzanne suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Group, At the end of the baptism book, Velas 1689-1700, there are many pages of indexes with birth names and parents. I do not understand what the priest wrote at the top of the page I am attaching and wonder if anyone can read the paragraph written by the priest and tell me what it says? There is a paragraph, followed by about 10 pages of indexed names. At first I thought it was an index of the births during this period, but it does not coincide chronologically with the names/births at the start of this book so I was wondering if it is actually an index of the births in this book or an index of names that didn't make it into the book. Any ideas? thank you, Suzanne da Rosa -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software
Ancestral Quest is the program I use and it has many features. I am just getting into the collaboration part of AQ. Using it I can save my data on the cloud in a secure server and access it from other locations (ie the library or even a friends house). You can share access to other family or friends if you choose. It has come in handy more than once. Ancestral Quest website -http://www.ancquest.com/Ver12-1Info.htm shows some of the features. There are instructions how you can change it to Portuguese or other languages. Since I do not speak Portuguese I can make the changes. The tech people are available to help if you run into a problem. They are also open for suggestions of what would help to make it better for you. Marilyn T On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:09 AM, carab...@aol.com wrote: ** I have to agree with Dora. I use Personal Ancestral File have for years. I was sad when I heard this program will not be upgraded in the future but I still use it. You can import pictures, keep lots of notes document your sources. It is easy to print out reports and the program will put all your information into a book format that you can print out with or without an index. A lot of my friends use Rootsmagic that is probably they program I will go to if I ever give up my PAF. I have put my family information into Rootmagic via a GEDCOM I liked what I saw. I also liked the book format a little bit better. Both programs are very easy to use. Sherry -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Site Change
As a new user, I was just getting to know my way around and then they changed it. I have not been back, but I will. Since all my matches are only 12 markers (Fred Flintstone time period according to Cheri) I am hoping for a higher marker level match. Marilyn On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Dora Smith tiggernu...@yahoo.com wrote: For what it's worth, I feel exactly teh same way you do. Dora On 2/17/2012 10:33 PM, E Sharp wrote: I received another match for a family member today on FTDNAimagine my surprise.they have changed the site.I am completely lost. I did manage to find this match but what is going on with all this stuff. It used to be so easy, and being a person who does not like change very much...probably a product of my age...I find this a little difficult to follow. Am I the only one confused by all of this? E -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FW: 36th Annual Congress of the Luso-American Education Foundation.
Is this conference in English or Portuguese? It looks interesting but I do not speak Portuguese. MLT On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Elaine Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: ** Attached is the brochure for the San Jose Conference April 19-22 I received from Bela. Joao Ventura’s workshops are on Saturday, April 21, 2012. For those in our Purple Scarf group, I believe there are 10, thus far, if you are going to the lunch – maybe we can all sit together? I have been to one of these Conferences before and it was very informative and a lot of fun. ** ** I do have to make one comment here – I have an almost 90 year old sister, who lives in **Southern California**, who is not in the best of health and although I am planning on being at both the SLC and SJ Conferences please be aware that I may have to cancel one/both of these at a moment’s notice. Celeste is furnishing the purple scarves and has the names of the SJ group should I not be able to attend. Cheri and Rosemarie are hosting the SLC conference so no problem for me here. ** ** “E” ** ** -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese citizenship
What is the reason you would want to become a Portuguese citizen? Do not get me wrong there is nothing wrong with it, I am just trying to understand. I also have a question, in this case does the Azores birth qualify for a grandparent born in Portugal? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:42 AM, m_kent m_k...@comcast.net wrote: Tomas, How did you establish proof of connection? Did you get Azorean baptism and/or birth records certified in the Azores? Who would I contact to do this? On Jan 24, 1:21 am, Tomas Leal tomasl...@comcast.net wrote: My understanding--which was confirmed when I met recently with the Portuguese Consul General in San Francisco--is you must meet four requirements: 1 - Have a grandparent born in Portugal (which means, of course, proof of the person's birth and your connection) 2 - No criminal record 3 - Three years' residency in Portugal 4 - Passing a Portuguese language exam For me, only the last one remains, so I'm working on my Portuguese. I have the residency, via an affidavit by the president of the village in Pico where I have a home and spend significant portion of the year each year. Tomás Leal -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Please change my email address to mari...@jmtmlt.comabout:blank Thank you for your friendship Marilyn Thompson -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Toronto, Ontario Canada Obit
I am not familiar with the obituaries from Toronto and what is available. I am looking for the obit of Celeste Delfina Machado De Morais. She died between 17 28 November 1985. Can someone point me in a direction to search or access a copy for me? Thank you for your help! Marilyn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
