[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary
I think the term ossuary can refer to a box or a place where such boxes are kept. Two years ago I went to my family village, Porto Formoso on Sao Miguel. We went to the cemetery to find out what we could find out. The man there, quite a character, showed us a bone box. What they did was bury someone in a temporary grave, until only the skeleton was left. They they removed the bones from the grave, so they could re-use the grave, and put the bones in a bone box (an ossuary). This was to save space. In the Holy Land you can see ossuaria or ossuarium, where many such bone boxes are kept. Hope this helps. Michael On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 2:46:26 PM UTC+11, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com > > Anthony said: > << is the Ossuary a building ?>> > > It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine). > Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary > Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images tab): > https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary > > The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that > case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in > another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I > don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked > graves. > > Hope this helps, > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/ca05c88d-3551-449c-8414-79f471a41ce5%40googlegroups.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pacheco Marques: was there an infant mortality on the Abergeldie?
Thank you Aaron. You have clarified the entry for me beautifully. It was a transcription error. On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 11:42:50 PM UTC+11, Aaron Pereira wrote: > > Michael, > > The record(s) you’re referring to are the Portuguese Consulate in Hawaii > registration lists. I attached a jpg copy of the page pertaining to your > ancestor, n. 1493. After the name, Anna, the recorder wrote digo, Maria. > Indicating he was making a correction; and her name was Maria, not Anna, 7 > years of age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pacheco Marques: was there an infant mortality on the Abergeldie?
Thanks for this Cheri. I'll photograph the page on my next trip to Hilo in February. Yes, it is Francisco (Antonio was his father). Interestingly, there are younger Antonio and Francisco Pacheco Marques's in the Porto Formoso cemetery, so the family is still very much there. On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 11:12:54 AM UTC+11, Michael Giffin wrote: > > > On a recent trip to Hilo I went to the Plantation Museum. The nice people > there gave me an Azorean Passport Index, in Portuguese, which they said > someone had donated to them. I checked our family entry for the Abergeldie, > May 1883, under Antonio Pacheco [Marques], wife Josepha Cabral, and 4 > children (Maria 1, Margarida, Manuel, and Maria 2). All this confirmed what > I already knew (from the index cards at the State Archives). However, in > this index there appeared to be another child, an infant named Anna, who > seemed to have died in infancy. This appears to be new information, not on > other records. As I don't read Portuguese, can anyone clarify this for me? > I wrote the information out on a scrape of paper, which I've lost, > otherwise I could supply a page reference number. Any assistance gratefully > received. PS the entry is under Pacheco although the name is Pacheco > Marques. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Pacheco Marques: was there an infant mortality on the Abergeldie?
On a recent trip to Hilo I went to the Plantation Museum. The nice people there gave me an Azorean Passport Index, in Portuguese, which they said someone had donated to them. I checked our family entry for the Abergeldie, May 1883, under Antonio Pacheco [Marques], wife Josepha Cabral, and 4 children (Maria 1, Margarida, Manuel, and Maria 2). All this confirmed what I already knew (from the index cards at the State Archives). However, in this index there appeared to be another child, an infant named Anna, who seemed to have died in infancy. This appears to be new information, not on other records. As I don't read Portuguese, can anyone clarify this for me? I wrote the information out on a scrape of paper, which I've lost, otherwise I could supply a page reference number. Any assistance gratefully received. PS the entry is under Pacheco although the name is Pacheco Marques. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] I found the entry number
Cheri, I found the piece of paper. The entry number in the Abergeldie May 1883 passenger manifest is 1493, Francisco Pacheco [Marques]. Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Testing MyHeritage Transfer
I just got back from my first trip to Sao Miguel and my family village, Porto Formoso. My family left there in 1883 for Hawaii. Our guide said the archipelago began to be settled sixty years before Columbus sailed for the New World, the first settlers included the Flemish, and some were from Brittany (and spoke Portuguese with a French accent). Complicating this, my genealogical research of the US censuses of 1900 and 1910 tells me that the Portuguese were not regarded then as Caucasian. So the DNA experience is indeed complex. On Thu, 15 Nov. 2018, 7:29 pm Rosemarie Capodicci Hi List, > I transferred my FTDna raw data over to MyHeritage with Cheri's > instructions, on Nov. 12th. I just now was notified that my ethnicity > breakdown was available. Quite a few differences from FTDna! On FTDna I > have *zero *Iberian ethnicity showing, on MyHeritage I show 47%! I show > 84% Europe with 47% Iberian (Spain/Portugal) and 28% Greek (don't show this > at all on FTDna. I'm showing 12% N. Africa and 1.8% Middle East which is > basically what I show on FTDna. So, if you want to check out another DNA > Company transfer your raw data over and take a look! > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pacheco Marques Genealogy
Thank you Julio. This is interesting because the headstone (from Kurdistown cemetery) is different from the large Branco monument in the upper left corner of the St Anthony's cemetery in Laupahoehoe. The obituary underneath confirms the youngest Maria (Auntie Kay called her Selena) as his wife and the eldest Maria (our "Mother Kramer") as his sister-in-law living at 1100 South King Street. The obituary says he "was one of the largest individual property owners in East Hawaii". My research tells me that was an interesting process. The Bureau of Conveyancing suggests that over many years he gradually acquired small holdings from individuals. Miss Josephine is also in the Branco monument (so is the widow Maria). Our Pacheco Marques monument, which is much smaller, is in the lower right corner of the cemetery. It contains Francisco Pacheco Marques (d. March 1901), Manuel (d.1919), Margarida (d.1946 one week before the tsunami swept the family home away on the point). Manuel was a butcher in Laupahoehoe who died of appendicitis. Margarida was a seamstress who never married. On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:16:33 AM UTC+10, Michael Giffin wrote: > > My great-great grandparents, Francisco Pacheco Marques and Josepha Cabral > and their four children (Maria[1], Margarida, Manuel, and Maria[2]) arrived > in Hawaii on 4 May 1883 on the SS Abergeldie. They came from the village of > Porto Formoso in Sao Miguel. They lived for many years in the Laupahoehoe > district of Hawaii Island (the Big Island). My great-grandmother, Maria[1], > had six children by her first marriage and four children by her second > marriage. We cannot confirm the name of her first husband; however, in the > 1900 Census, the last names of her first six children is Goncalves. > According to the DeMello Passport Index, a Goncalves family arrived in > Hawaii from Porto Formoso on the same ship as the Pacheco Marques family. > While it is big guess, villagers did tend to stay together, so Maria[1] may > have married a Goncalves child from this family. I will be visiting Sao > Miquel in November 2018 and look forward to seeing the village of Porto > Formoso. Thank you, Michael. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pacheco Marques Genealogy
This is so exciting, thank you! A cousin recently sent me this note: "Evan recently did his DNA with Ancestry.com and started to put his family tree together. He showed me this name that came up for grandpa Joseph's father as Gonsalves Galego. Could it be that we thought his first name was his last name which is why we could not find any info on him?" Joseph is the second son of Maria Pacheco Marques and her first husband, of whom we know nothing, but the 1900 Census gives the child's last name as Goncalves. Is there a connection between this and the Gonsalves Galego mentioned above? On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:16:33 AM UTC+10, Michael Giffin wrote: > > My great-great grandparents, Francisco Pacheco Marques and Josepha Cabral > and their four children (Maria[1], Margarida, Manuel, and Maria[2]) arrived > in Hawaii on 4 May 1883 on the SS Abergeldie. They came from the village of > Porto Formoso in Sao Miguel. They lived for many years in the Laupahoehoe > district of Hawaii Island (the Big Island). My great-grandmother, Maria[1], > had six children by her first marriage and four children by her second > marriage. We cannot confirm the name of her first husband; however, in the > 1900 Census, the last names of her first six children is Goncalves. > According to the DeMello Passport Index, a Goncalves family arrived in > Hawaii from Porto Formoso on the same ship as the Pacheco Marques family. > While it is big guess, villagers did tend to stay together, so Maria[1] may > have married a Goncalves child from this family. I will be visiting Sao > Miquel in November 2018 and look forward to seeing the village of Porto > Formoso. Thank you, Michael. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pacheco Marques Genealogy
Thank you JR. Maria's death certificate gives her birth as 25 December 1867. Yes, 12 January 1868 is more likely to be her baptismal date. At this stage, the family is interested in confirming or establishing the identity of Maria's first husband, the father of her first six children. In the 1900 Census, the last name of these first six children is Goncalves. According to the DeMello Passport Index, a Goncalves family came to Hawaii, from the same village (Porto Formoso), and on the same ship (SS Abergeldie) as Maria's family. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Pacheco Marques Genealogy
My great-great grandparents, Francisco Pacheco Marques and Josepha Cabral and their four children (Maria[1], Margarida, Manuel, and Maria[2]) arrived in Hawaii on 4 May 1883 on the SS Abergeldie. They came from the village of Porto Formoso in Sao Miguel. They lived for many years in the Laupahoehoe district of Hawaii Island (the Big Island). My great-grandmother, Maria[1], had six children by her first marriage and four children by her second marriage. We cannot confirm the name of her first husband; however, in the 1900 Census, the last names of her first six children is Goncalves. According to the DeMello Passport Index, a Goncalves family arrived in Hawaii from Porto Formoso on the same ship as the Pacheco Marques family. While it is big guess, villagers did tend to stay together, so Maria[1] may have married a Goncalves child from this family. I will be visiting Sao Miquel in November 2018 and look forward to seeing the village of Porto Formoso. Thank you, Michael. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
