[AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a foundling when he got married he was listed as a native of São Sebastião when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a native of São Pedro - same on death record it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for him my grandmother listed her name in her school book she brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz i often wondered where the carvalho part came from on the first page of the document - four lines up from the bottom - is that word carvalho? what is the word before 58 above is this list about who brought up these foundlings? wish more info was given thanks carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
Yes, this lists who raised the child, Umbelina de Jesus and her husband Antonio Carvalho. Before the 58 is Rosto do Cao, that is where they live. The index is for Sao Pedro, the number 58 is probably the baptism number or page number. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
Carmen, please post both links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism of your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look. Thanks On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html > > my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a foundling > > when he got married he was listed as a native of São Sebastião > > when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a native of São > Pedro - same on death record > > it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for him > > my grandmother listed her name in her school book she brought to america > as maria do carmo carvalho luiz > > i often wondered where the carvalho part came from > > on the first page of the document - four lines up from the bottom - is > that word carvalho? > > what is the word before 58 above > > is this list about who brought up these foundlings? > > wish more info was given > > thanks > > carmen > > > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
on the first page of the document - four lines up from the bottom - is that word carvalho? yes what is the word before 58 above Rosto do Cao is this list about who brought up these foundlings? Read what it says in front of the book or in front of the section where you found the list. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 7:48 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- > PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html > > my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a foundling > > when he got married he was listed as a native of São Sebastião > > when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a native of São > Pedro - same on death record > > it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for him > > my grandmother listed her name in her school book she brought to america > as maria do carmo carvalho luiz > > i often wondered where the carvalho part came from > > on the first page of the document - four lines up from the bottom - is > that word carvalho? > > what is the word before 58 above > > is this list about who brought up these foundlings? > > wish more info was given > > thanks > > carmen > > > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
Sao Sebastiao and Sao Pedro are both parishes in the city of Ponta Delgada. The names forth from the bottom are Umbilina de Jesus and Antonio Carvalho. The word on line 58 looks like and abbreviated Rosto do Cao but I am not sure. This is a listing of the Baptisms of Expostos (foundlings) The child was given to Umbilina de Jesus to care for him. The actual baptism is the record on the lower left side of this image http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P60.html The baptism date looks like 2 Apr 1838 Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores Original Message- From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:48 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a foundling when he got married he was listed as a native of São Sebastião when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a native of São Pedro - same on death record it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for him my grandmother listed her name in her school book she brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz i often wondered where the carvalho part came from on the first page of the document - four lines up from the bottom - is that word carvalho? what is the word before 58 above is this list about who brought up these foundlings? wish more info was given thanks carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
hi margaret here is the link for my great-grandmother's baptism #116 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879_item1/P285.html here is her parents marriage #14 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P40.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P41.html thank you carmen On Mon, 10/24/16, Margaret Vicente wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 11:32 AM Carmen, please post both links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism of your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look. Thanks On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a foundling when he got married he was listed as a native of São Sebastião when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a native of São Pedro - same on death record it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for him my grandmother listed her name in her school book she brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz i often wondered where the carvalho part came from on the first page of the document - four lines up from the bottom - is that word carvalho? what is the word before 58 above is this list about who brought up these foundlings? wish more info was given thanks carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
Carmen. It was helpful, in discerning a timeline, thank you. >From this I can tell you the record you are looking at for Antonio given to Umbelina is not your G. Grandfather. Based on the marriage record he was 21 years old, which brings the birth year around 1855. The Sao Pedro Antonio was born in 1839, I was also hoping to find in the marriage record the name of the care giver or the exposto number but unfortunately the priest did not list it. I would suggest for you to have a look at Matriz, Sao Sebastiao index to see if there are any Antonio's born circa 1855. Hope you find him. You should collect all of the children born to this couple, along with Goparents names. You might find a connection to the people that raised Antonio if it ends up being S. Sebastiao. Margaret On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > hi margaret > > here is the link for my great-grandmother's baptism #116 > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- > VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879_item1/P285.html > > here is her parents marriage #14 > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- > VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P40.html > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- > VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P41.html > > thank you > > carmen > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > On Mon, 10/24/16, Margaret Vicente wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT? > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 11:32 AM > > Carmen, please post both > links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism of > your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look. > Thanks > > > On Mon, Oct > 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores > Genealogy > wrote: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- > PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html > > > > my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a > foundling > > > > when he got married he was listed as a native of São > Sebastião > > > > when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a > native of São Pedro - same on death record > > > > it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for > him > > > > my grandmother listed her name in her school book she > brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz > > > > i often wondered where the carvalho part came from > > > > on the first page of the document - four lines up from the > bottom - is that word carvalho? > > > > what is the word before 58 above > > > > is this list about who brought up these foundlings? > > > > wish more info was given > > > > thanks > > > > carmen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Margaret M Vicente -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
Hi Carmen, The "expostos" records from S. Sebastiao, are sterile and yield nothing other than a number, with many name Antonios born in 1855 it's almost an impossibility. However I came across one child named Antonio, who was Perfilhado (legalized birth rights) in 1881. The parents are Manuel Carvalho de Sousa and Francisca Ludovina da Conceicao. Exposto # 724 - baptism/birth record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1851-1856/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1851-1856_item1/P162.html 1881 Perfilhacoes http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-P-1881-1881/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-P-1881-1881_item1/P6.html This may not necessarily be the right person. You will have to collect all of this couple's children and pay special attention to when the surname Carvalho comes up. If after 1881 or close to it you may have found your GGP. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Carmen. > > It was helpful, in discerning a timeline, thank you. > > From this I can tell you the record you are looking at for Antonio given > to Umbelina is not your G. Grandfather. Based on the marriage record he > was 21 years old, which brings the birth year around 1855. The Sao Pedro > Antonio was born in 1839, > > I was also hoping to find in the marriage record the name of the care > giver or the exposto number but unfortunately the priest did not list it. > > I would suggest for you to have a look at Matriz, Sao Sebastiao index to > see if there are any Antonio's born circa 1855. > > Hope you find him. > > You should collect all of the children born to this couple, along with > Goparents names. You might find a connection to the people that raised > Antonio if it ends up being S. Sebastiao. > > > Margaret > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> hi margaret >> >> here is the link for my great-grandmother's baptism #116 >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- >> SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879_item1/P285.html >> >> here is her parents marriage #14 >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- >> SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P40.html >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- >> SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/P41.html >> >> thank you >> >> carmen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 10/24/16, Margaret Vicente wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT? >> To: azores@googlegroups.com >> Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 11:32 AM >> >> Carmen, please post both >> links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism of >> your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look. >> Thanks >> >> >> On Mon, Oct >> 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores >> Genealogy >> wrote: >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD >> -SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P127.html >> >> >> >> my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a >> foundling >> >> >> >> when he got married he was listed as a native of São >> Sebastião >> >> >> >> when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a >> native of São Pedro - same on death record >> >> >> >> it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for >> him >> >> >> >> my grandmother listed her name in her school book she >> brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz >> >> >> >> i often wondered where the carvalho part came from >> >> >> >> on the first page of the document - four lines up from the >> bottom - is that word carvalho? >> >> >> >> what is the word before 58 above >> >> >> >> is this list about who brought up these foundlings? >> >> >> >> wish more info was given >> >> >> >> thanks >> >> >> >> carmen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscr
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?
hi margaret i started looking for his children going to take a while thanks carmen On Mon, 10/24/16, Margaret Vicente wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT? To: "azores" Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 3:10 PM Hi Carmen, The "expostos" records from S. Sebastiao, are sterile and yield nothing other than a number, with many name Antonios born in 1855 it's almost an impossibility. However I came across one child named Antonio, who was Perfilhado (legalized birth rights) in 1881. The parents are Manuel Carvalho de Sousa and Francisca Ludovina da Conceicao. Exposto # 724 - baptism/birth recordhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1851-1856/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1851-1856_item1/P162.html 1881 Perfilhacoeshttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-P-1881-1881/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-P-1881-1881_item1/P6.html This may not necessarily be the right person. You will have to collect all of this couple's children and pay special attention to when the surname Carvalho comes up. If after 1881 or close to it you may have found your GGP. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: Carmen. It was helpful, in discerning a timeline, thank you. From this I can tell you the record you are looking at for Antonio given to Umbelina is not your G. Grandfather. Based on the marriage record he was 21 years old, which brings the birth year around 1855. The Sao Pedro Antonio was born in 1839, I was also hoping to find in the marriage record the name of the care giver or the exposto number but unfortunately the priest did not list it. I would suggest for you to have a look at Matriz, Sao Sebastiao index to see if there are any Antonio's born circa 1855. Hope you find him. You should collect all of the children born to this couple, along with Goparents names. You might find a connection to the people that raised Antonio if it ends up being S. Sebastiao. Margaret On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy wrote: hi margaret here is the link for my great-grandmother's baptism #116 http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-B-1875-1879_item1/ P285.html here is her parents marriage #14 http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/ P40.html http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879/SMG-VF- SAOMIGUEL-C-1875-1879_item1/ P41.html thank you carmen -- -- On Mon, 10/24/16, Margaret Vicente wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, October 24, 2016, 11:32 AM Carmen, please post both links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism of your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look. Thanks On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy wrote: http://culturacores.azores.go v.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD -SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859/SMG-PD- SAOPEDRO-B-1832-1859_item1/P12 7.html my grandmother's grandfather - António Joaquim - was a foundling when he got married he was listed as a native of São Sebastião when my grandmother's mother was born he was listed as a native of São Pedro - same on death record it's going to be impossible to find a baptismal date for him my grandmother listed her name in her school book she brought to america as maria do carmo carvalho luiz i often wondered where the carvalho part came from on the first page of the document - four lines up from the bottom - is that word carvalho? what is the word before 58 above is this list about who brought up these foundlings? wish more info was given thanks carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroup s.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group
