Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2016-11-15 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
So much has happened since this post. 

It turns out that this lady is my paternal grandmother's sister, so that makes 
her my grand aunt, and she married my first cousin 3x removed. 

Once I was able to confirm this, it's been branching out nicely.

Monica :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-07-15 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
Alexandre's daughter Maria, had my grandfather, Manuel. (Pai incognito) he took 
his grand mother's maiden name, Revoredo. These records are my family. 

Took a long time to find this out, but I did. Thanks to this thread, other 
questions I had have been answered. 

Monica 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
I'm right there with you but there's one thought that seems to help me
which is "because that child made it, look at us now" :)

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> Thank you so very much! I never clued into the Camara relationship.
> Ugh, I feel a sense of loss. Isn't that nuts?
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>> the baptimal record says that the maternal grandfather is Joao Botelho
>> Revoredo (and his maternal grandmother is Francisca de Jesus). :)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-27 Thread Nelia DiBiase
Thank you so very much! I never clued into the Camara relationship.
Ugh, I feel a sense of loss. Isn't that nuts?

Nelia
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thanks Linda.  There's your answer Nelia.

cheers,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-26 Thread linda
the baptimal record says that the maternal grandfather is Joao Botelho Revoredo 
(and his maternal grandmother is Francisca de Jesus). :) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-26 Thread linda
the baptimal record says that the maternal grandfather is Joao Botelho Revoredo 
(and his maternal grandmother is Francisca de Jesus). :) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-26 Thread Margaret Vicente
Nelia,

According to both records above Francisco is the son of Alexandre da
Camara, baptized in S. Sebastiao, Matriz, Ponta Delgada and of unknown
parents.  Fostered City Hall (Camara) children were most often given or
took on the surname "Camara".

The Name Revoredo could be through Francisco's Maternal side or simply
adopted as their very own.



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> There's no Alexandre in that link. Try again. It would be best to say top
> right, No. 23, etc.
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>> Hi Cheri,
>>
>> Here's his baptism record. It confuses me even more.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1870-1879_item1/P51.html
>>
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>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>>> You have it right.
>>>
>>> Go find the groom's baptism. It will probably list his grandparents.
>>> That may give you a clue as to where Revoredo came from.
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 Hi there,

 I sent a previous message and forgot to attach the link!  Yikes!

 I've been trying to decipher this marriage record. Alexandre's father's
 name is Da Camara but Alexandre's last name is Revoredo. As well it states
 he and his mother are from esta freguesia. It's written oddly. If you would
 be so kind as to help me figure this one out. I would greatly appreciate 
 it.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899_item1/P81.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-26 Thread Cheri Mello
There's no Alexandre in that link. Try again. It would be best to say top
right, No. 23, etc.

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On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Nelia DiBiase 
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> Hi Cheri,
>
> Here's his baptism record. It confuses me even more.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1870-1879_item1/P51.html
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> You have it right.
>>
>> Go find the groom's baptism. It will probably list his grandparents. That
>> may give you a clue as to where Revoredo came from.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
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>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Nelia DiBiase 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I sent a previous message and forgot to attach the link!  Yikes!
>>>
>>> I've been trying to decipher this marriage record. Alexandre's father's
>>> name is Da Camara but Alexandre's last name is Revoredo. As well it states
>>> he and his mother are from esta freguesia. It's written oddly. If you would
>>> be so kind as to help me figure this one out. I would greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899_item1/P81.html
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Nelia Revoredo-DiBiase
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-26 Thread Nelia DiBiase
Hi Cheri,

Here's his baptism record. It confuses me even more.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1870-1879_item1/P51.html

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> You have it right.
>
> Go find the groom's baptism. It will probably list his grandparents. That
> may give you a clue as to where Revoredo came from.
>
> Cheri Mello
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> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Nelia DiBiase  > wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I sent a previous message and forgot to attach the link!  Yikes!
>>
>> I've been trying to decipher this marriage record. Alexandre's father's
>> name is Da Camara but Alexandre's last name is Revoredo. As well it states
>> he and his mother are from esta freguesia. It's written oddly. If you would
>> be so kind as to help me figure this one out. I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899_item1/P81.html
>>
>> Thank you!
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>> Nelia Revoredo-DiBiase
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-26 Thread Cheri Mello
You have it right.

Go find the groom's baptism. It will probably list his grandparents. That
may give you a clue as to where Revoredo came from.

Cheri Mello
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> Hi there,
>
> I sent a previous message and forgot to attach the link!  Yikes!
>
> I've been trying to decipher this marriage record. Alexandre's father's
> name is Da Camara but Alexandre's last name is Revoredo. As well it states
> he and his mother are from esta freguesia. It's written oddly. If you would
> be so kind as to help me figure this one out. I would greatly appreciate it.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899_item1/P81.html
>
> Thank you!
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo marriage record. Alexandre and Maria da conceićao

2016-01-26 Thread Nelia DiBiase
Hi there,

I sent a previous message and forgot to attach the link!  Yikes!

I've been trying to decipher this marriage record. Alexandre's father's name is 
Da Camara but Alexandre's last name is Revoredo. As well it states he and his 
mother are from esta freguesia. It's written oddly. If you would be so kind as 
to help me figure this one out. I would greatly appreciate it. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1890-1899_item1/P81.html

Thank you!

Nelia Revoredo-DiBiase

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Cheri Mello
Look for a Manuel with a side note of marrying a Maria Jorge, unless you
don't think she was from there.

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> No. I too have seen that record. He married Maria Jorge, and he never left
> Portugal.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
I did do my testing. I'm actually waiting and there is a due date of December 
12. I'm really excited about what will come from it.

Monica

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
No. I too have seen that record. He married Maria Jorge, and he never left 
Portugal. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
Cheri, both are deceased. Antonio Paiva died in 1977 and Agueda died in 2008. 
If they were alive, I wouldn't be having this conversation. 

It's not a matter of finding the records. It's knowing if it is the right 
person to continue. 

My mom remembered a very specific clue that allowed me to trace my maternal GG 
grandmother's line. There are no helpful clues for the men in her family 
(father and grand father). 

M

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Cheri Mello
Was your Manuel da Luz Revoredo married to Ermlinda de Sousa Pimentel?
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1900-1911_item1/P551.html
Record 3, on the left.

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> And if you ladies think you are related, you need to get into DNA. Test
> your oldest family members first (your grandparents, then your parents).
> There's a sale on DNA until Dec. 31st.
>
> Cheri Mello
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> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Monica,
>>
>> You're not putting all the facts into one email.
>>
>> Agueda Revoredo was born in 1932 and married in 1951 or 52. You never
>> stated that she is deceased, so why don't you ask her when she got married
>> and where? Or better yet, ask her for her father's birthdate. If she
>> doesn't remember does she know something like he was 25 when she was born?
>> Then you can do the math of 1932 - 25 and figure out he was born in 1907
>> and you can search Capelas. It's online up to 1911. If he were born in
>> 1911, then he was 21 at Agueda's birth. Just search Capelas for every
>> Manuel until you find one with a Revoredo and ask Agueda if that's her
>> father. You can access Capelas here: http://tombo.pt/f/pdl04
>>
>> Antonio Paiva - is he alive? He is kid number what? If he happens to be
>> kid 10, you might be able to find his parents' marriage in Ginetes before
>> 1911. http://tombo.pt/f/pdl09  If he's kid #2, you are out of luck.
>>
>> I haven't heard of anyone being successful in having a church search for
>> them.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
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>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 3:51 PM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cheri...I'm such an idiot!  Lol
>>>
>>> My maternal grandmother (Agueda Revoredo) was born in 1932. So far, I
>>> traced her mother's side up to 1832...easy peasy. She was a Maria Jorge (or
>>> Gorge) and Fonseca. My great grand father, is the elusive Manuel de Luz
>>> Revoredo. Without his parents names, I'm at a stand still. He has always
>>> been in Capelas.
>>>
>>> My maternal grandfather (Antonio Paiva) was born in 1929. We have his
>>> parents names but since I don't have their ( my GG gp) parents names, I'm
>>> at another stand still as there is no resource that I have to confirm/deny
>>> relations. I indexed what I could find of them just in case though.
>>> Apparently they are from Sete Cidades/Ginetes.
>>>
>>> I was thinking of getting Agueda's marriage certificate but no one knows
>>> that day they got married. I can only guess that it was in 1951/52 since my
>>> mom was born in 53.  My mom said that they weren't married long before they
>>> had her,
>>>
>>> Would the church in Capelas,  Nossa apressasao ( bad spelling) research
>>> with the "around" date? I would get her birth certificate but it won't
>>> answer my grand fathers side.
>>>
>>> Monica
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Cheri Mello
And if you ladies think you are related, you need to get into DNA. Test
your oldest family members first (your grandparents, then your parents).
There's a sale on DNA until Dec. 31st.

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> Monica,
>
> You're not putting all the facts into one email.
>
> Agueda Revoredo was born in 1932 and married in 1951 or 52. You never
> stated that she is deceased, so why don't you ask her when she got married
> and where? Or better yet, ask her for her father's birthdate. If she
> doesn't remember does she know something like he was 25 when she was born?
> Then you can do the math of 1932 - 25 and figure out he was born in 1907
> and you can search Capelas. It's online up to 1911. If he were born in
> 1911, then he was 21 at Agueda's birth. Just search Capelas for every
> Manuel until you find one with a Revoredo and ask Agueda if that's her
> father. You can access Capelas here: http://tombo.pt/f/pdl04
>
> Antonio Paiva - is he alive? He is kid number what? If he happens to be
> kid 10, you might be able to find his parents' marriage in Ginetes before
> 1911. http://tombo.pt/f/pdl09  If he's kid #2, you are out of luck.
>
> I haven't heard of anyone being successful in having a church search for
> them.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
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> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 3:51 PM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Cheri...I'm such an idiot!  Lol
>>
>> My maternal grandmother (Agueda Revoredo) was born in 1932. So far, I
>> traced her mother's side up to 1832...easy peasy. She was a Maria Jorge (or
>> Gorge) and Fonseca. My great grand father, is the elusive Manuel de Luz
>> Revoredo. Without his parents names, I'm at a stand still. He has always
>> been in Capelas.
>>
>> My maternal grandfather (Antonio Paiva) was born in 1929. We have his
>> parents names but since I don't have their ( my GG gp) parents names, I'm
>> at another stand still as there is no resource that I have to confirm/deny
>> relations. I indexed what I could find of them just in case though.
>> Apparently they are from Sete Cidades/Ginetes.
>>
>> I was thinking of getting Agueda's marriage certificate but no one knows
>> that day they got married. I can only guess that it was in 1951/52 since my
>> mom was born in 53.  My mom said that they weren't married long before they
>> had her,
>>
>> Would the church in Capelas,  Nossa apressasao ( bad spelling) research
>> with the "around" date? I would get her birth certificate but it won't
>> answer my grand fathers side.
>>
>> Monica
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Cheri Mello
Monica,

You're not putting all the facts into one email.

Agueda Revoredo was born in 1932 and married in 1951 or 52. You never
stated that she is deceased, so why don't you ask her when she got married
and where? Or better yet, ask her for her father's birthdate. If she
doesn't remember does she know something like he was 25 when she was born?
Then you can do the math of 1932 - 25 and figure out he was born in 1907
and you can search Capelas. It's online up to 1911. If he were born in
1911, then he was 21 at Agueda's birth. Just search Capelas for every
Manuel until you find one with a Revoredo and ask Agueda if that's her
father. You can access Capelas here: http://tombo.pt/f/pdl04

Antonio Paiva - is he alive? He is kid number what? If he happens to be kid
10, you might be able to find his parents' marriage in Ginetes before 1911.
http://tombo.pt/f/pdl09  If he's kid #2, you are out of luck.

I haven't heard of anyone being successful in having a church search for
them.

Cheri

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> Cheri...I'm such an idiot!  Lol
>
> My maternal grandmother (Agueda Revoredo) was born in 1932. So far, I
> traced her mother's side up to 1832...easy peasy. She was a Maria Jorge (or
> Gorge) and Fonseca. My great grand father, is the elusive Manuel de Luz
> Revoredo. Without his parents names, I'm at a stand still. He has always
> been in Capelas.
>
> My maternal grandfather (Antonio Paiva) was born in 1929. We have his
> parents names but since I don't have their ( my GG gp) parents names, I'm
> at another stand still as there is no resource that I have to confirm/deny
> relations. I indexed what I could find of them just in case though.
> Apparently they are from Sete Cidades/Ginetes.
>
> I was thinking of getting Agueda's marriage certificate but no one knows
> that day they got married. I can only guess that it was in 1951/52 since my
> mom was born in 53.  My mom said that they weren't married long before they
> had her,
>
> Would the church in Capelas,  Nossa apressasao ( bad spelling) research
> with the "around" date? I would get her birth certificate but it won't
> answer my grand fathers side.
>
> Monica
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Nelia DiBiase
Monica,

Something tells me we're related. Like I said all of the Revoredo's in the
Capelas were related. If you wish, pm me your mom's name and her parents
named and I can certainly confirm if my suspicions are accurate.

Nelia

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> Hey Cheri. If only she had her baptism record. Would it be easy to obtain?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
Cheri...I'm such an idiot!  Lol

My maternal grandmother (Agueda Revoredo) was born in 1932. So far, I traced 
her mother's side up to 1832...easy peasy. She was a Maria Jorge (or Gorge) and 
Fonseca. My great grand father, is the elusive Manuel de Luz Revoredo. Without 
his parents names, I'm at a stand still. He has always been in Capelas.

My maternal grandfather (Antonio Paiva) was born in 1929. We have his parents 
names but since I don't have their ( my GG gp) parents names, I'm at another 
stand still as there is no resource that I have to confirm/deny relations. I 
indexed what I could find of them just in case though. Apparently they are from 
Sete Cidades/Ginetes. 

I was thinking of getting Agueda's marriage certificate but no one knows that 
day they got married. I can only guess that it was in 1951/52 since my mom was 
born in 53.  My mom said that they weren't married long before they had her,

Would the church in Capelas,  Nossa apressasao ( bad spelling) research with 
the "around" date? I would get her birth certificate but it won't answer my 
grand fathers side. 

Monica


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Monica,

Without dates, I have to take guesses.

Someone married in the early 50s could be born in the late 20s or early30s.
Her parents: Born about 1900 (those records are online).
Her grandparents: Born 1870s (those records are online).
Her greats: Born 1850s (those records are online)
Her 2 greats: Born 1820s (those records are online)

I assumed 1 generation = 25 years since not all information was given.

So if you are after your mother great-great grandparents, you can find it
through Tombo.pt

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
Hello Cheri, I should better explain. She knows her grand parents, it's her GG 
grandparents so her baptism record won't do me much. 

My uncle is still there. Maybe my mom can ask him to pop over to the church for 
my grand mothers baptismal record or her marriage certificate.  I would be 
hoping to see the full names, if they are in the same format I have been 
researching. She was married about 1951 or 2. My mom was born shortly after.
Thanks for all your guidance.

Monica

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Cheri Mello
Monica,

I have no idea of the age of the subject in question. I'm guessing she's
probably born within the last 100 years. The church would have her baptism.
I'm not sure if the Civil Registry lists the grandparents or not. I think
they might, but I have not seen a recent (within the last 100 years) Civil
Registry birth.

She could write to the church where she was born and ask for a photocopy of
her baptism. I'd make a donation to the church too, for their time.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy

As long as my mom has known, they were from Capelas. My paternal grandparents 
are the other struggle for me. I guess my mother's baptism record works also 
help in this regard. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
Hey Cheri. If only she had her baptism record. Would it be easy to obtain?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Nelia DiBiase
Have you established which village she lived in?
In what time period?
If in fact they were from there and they're Revoredo I can help you find
them.

Nelia

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> Hello Nelia,
>
> Have you started your tree? We lived on grotto do morro. My mom doesn't
> know who her paternal grand parents were. They didn't talk about those
> things. To make matters worse, she had cousins on the street as well so the
> records that I have found could be theirs. I've indexed them to see if
> there are any clues. That is what I'm struggling with now.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread Cheri Mello
Monica,
The grandparents are listed in in your mother's baptism record. Only reason
they would not be listed is if they were pais incognitos.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-06 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
Hello Nelia, 

Have you started your tree? We lived on grotto do morro. My mom doesn't know 
who her paternal grand parents were. They didn't talk about those things. To 
make matters worse, she had cousins on the street as well so the records that I 
have found could be theirs. I've indexed them to see if there are any clues. 
That is what I'm struggling with now. 

Monica

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-12-05 Thread Nelia DiBiase
Hi there,

I'm a Revoredo born in Sao Miguel. As this name is not very common...basically 
all of us Revoredo's are pretty much all related. You will have luck searching 
the town of Capelas in Sao Miguel. 

Hope this is helpful. 

Nelia Revoredo DiBiase

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

2015-10-04 Thread 'Jazz' via Azores Genealogy
JR, 
Thank you so much for taking an interest in my plight. 

I'm very new to all things genealogy so I'm not clear as to the format you are 
asking. Therefore, I will break it down the best way I know how.

My maternal grandmother: Agueda Encarnacoa Revoredo 
Her parents: Manuel de Luz Revoredo (B unknown, D approx 1973) -Parents unknown 
and Maria Jorge (B may 11, 1905 to Joao Jorge Vincente & Jacquina de forseca- 
birth record found in Candelaria) dies approx 1970

My maternal grandfather: Antonio Paiva b 1928 - d 1977
His parents: Jose Paiva (D approx 1958) and Maria do carmo pereira (D approx 
1968)

It looks like I can go further with Maria Jorge's, but have been focussing on 
the men.

Unfortunately this is all I have to work with. I have notes of researching the 
area you suggest as I too thought the same thing. But it was not fruitful. I 
will try again. Maybe for the parents. 

Capelas is where I am from and everyone died in Capelas. Paiva is from Sete 
Cidades. Revoredo unknown, and Pereira unknown. Can you say brick wall?? Very 
discouraging. 

Monica de Sousa

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> On Oct 3, 2015, at 8:04 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> With a name like Manuel da Luz, try looking in Fenais da Luz. They may have 
> lived in Capellas but born or baptised elsewhere.
> 
> I am trying to follow your line but having difficulty. Can you lay it out in 
> ancestor format?
> 
> 1)- grandfather cc 2) grandmother
> 
> 2 X 3 paternal greats
> 4 X 5 maternal greats
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 12:26:45 AM UTC-4, Monica C wrote:
>> They are all from the island of San Miguel. The males that I note (Manuel de 
>> Luz Revoredo and Jose Paiva), were from Capelas according to my mom. I have 
>> checked the records of that parish, Nossa Senhora da Apresentação, which is 
>> the one I was baptised in as well. In fact, I have checked all the baptismal 
>> records for all of the Ponta Delgada area for these men.  The only record I 
>> was able to find was Manuel's wife, Maria Jorge in Candelaria. 
>> 
>> I hope that is clearer. It was my first post and I wasn't sure of the proper 
>> protocol. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Monica :)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

2015-10-03 Thread JR
With a name like Manuel da Luz, try looking in Fenais da Luz. They may have 
lived in Capellas but born or baptised elsewhere.

I am trying to follow your line but having difficulty. Can you lay it out 
in ancestor format?

1)- grandfather cc 2) grandmother

2 X 3 paternal greats
4 X 5 maternal greats


On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 12:26:45 AM UTC-4, Monica C wrote:
>
> They are all from the island of San Miguel. The males that I note (Manuel 
> de Luz Revoredo and Jose Paiva), were from Capelas according to my mom. I 
> have checked the records of that parish, Nossa Senhora da Apresentação, 
> which is the one I was baptised in as well. In fact, I have checked all the 
> baptismal records for all of the Ponta Delgada area for these men.  The 
> only record I was able to find was Manuel's wife, Maria Jorge in 
> Candelaria. 
>
> I hope that is clearer. It was my first post and I wasn't sure of the 
> proper protocol. 
>
> Thanks 
> Monica :)

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-09-18 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
I have António de Revoredo married to Luzia Cabral. They are my 9th 
ggrandparents…

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Maria 
Lima
Enviada: 18 de setembro de 2015 12:54
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

 

I have Manoel de Souza Revoredo married to Thereza de Oliveira from Rosto do 
Cao in Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.  His ID NUMBER ON family Search is K4ZP-BKT.  
If you go on familysearch.org <http://familysearch.org> , look for him by the 
ID number, you might find a connection.  Hope this helps.

Maria Elena 


On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have them. They are one of my End Of Line ancestors. I ran out of records in 
1580 in Vila Franca do Campo (Sao Miguel Arcanjo church).

Cheri




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Achada

 

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 6:25 PM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy 
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Hello,
Would anyone have a listing or family from Sao Miguel with the name Revoredo? 
Do you know of where they populated the island?

Any information or direction would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks
Monica
SAO MIGUEL

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-09-18 Thread Maria Lima
I have Manoel de Souza Revoredo married to Thereza de Oliveira from Rosto do 
Cao in Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.  His ID NUMBER ON family Search is K4ZP-BKT.  
If you go on familysearch.org, look for him by the ID number, you might find a 
connection.  Hope this helps.

Maria Elena 

> On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> I have them. They are one of my End Of Line ancestors. I ran out of records 
> in 1580 in Vila Franca do Campo (Sao Miguel Arcanjo church).
> 
> Cheri
> 
> Cheri Mello
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> Achada
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>> Hello,
>> Would anyone have a listing or family from Sao Miguel with the name 
>> Revoredo? Do you know of where they populated the island?
>> 
>> Any information or direction would greatly be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Monica
>> SAO MIGUEL
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-09-18 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
They are spread out all over the island and were in Vila Franca in 1622.
 


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 wrote:
   

 Hello, 
Would anyone have a listing or family from Sao Miguel with the name Revoredo? 
Do you know of where they populated the island? 

Any information or direction would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks
Monica 
SAO MIGUEL

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-09-17 Thread Cheri Mello
I have them. They are one of my End Of Line ancestors. I ran out of records
in 1580 in Vila Franca do Campo (Sao Miguel Arcanjo church).

Cheri

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> Hello,
> Would anyone have a listing or family from Sao Miguel with the name
> Revoredo? Do you know of where they populated the island?
>
> Any information or direction would greatly be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Monica
> SAO MIGUEL
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo

2015-09-17 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
Hello, 
Would anyone have a listing or family from Sao Miguel with the name Revoredo? 
Do you know of where they populated the island? 

Any information or direction would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks
Monica 
SAO MIGUEL

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

2015-09-01 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
They are all from the island of San Miguel. The males that I note (Manuel de 
Luz Revoredo and Jose Paiva), were from Capelas according to my mom. I have 
checked the records of that parish, Nossa Senhora da Apresentação, which is the 
one I was baptised in as well. In fact, I have checked all the baptismal 
records for all of the Ponta Delgada area for these men.  The only record I was 
able to find was Manuel's wife, Maria Jorge in Candelaria.

I hope that is clearer. It was my first post and I wasn't sure of the proper 
protocol.

Thanks
Monica :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

2015-09-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Monica,

The title of your post contains the word Capelas, which is probably in
reference to the one on Sao Miguel island.

In the body of your email, you do not mention Capelas once. You talk about
Candelaria. Again, no island. There are 2 Candelarias in the Azores.

You need to state the island and make up your mind about which freguesia
you are searching in.

Cheri Mello
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2015-09-01 Thread 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy
I've be scouring the parish records for my great grand parents. I have only 
been able to find the birth record for my great grandmother in candelaria. 
Her name was Maria Jorge born 1904. She married Manuel Revoredo who was about 
two years older than his wife. I can't find his record anywhere. 

There is also my great grandfather Jose Paiva, who married Maria do carmo 
Pereira. They had many children, one of them being Antonio Paiva (b 1926) (my 
grand father), who had tragically died in Toronto. Articles and a book was 
dedicated to my grandmother after this event. Her name was Agueda Revoredo.

Finding records for my father's side has been very difficult. It was suggested 
that my father, Eduardo desousa, was not the son of the person whom I have 
always considered to be my grand father as the wedding of his "parents" was 
after he was born. Also, on my fathers birth certificate, it notes that his 
birth was registered in 1976, a year before we came to Canada. This is very odd 
to me as he was born in 1944. He also took his mother's name and not his 
father's. (All children born after took the father's name) Their names are Jose 
Rego and her name was Olivia camara de sousa. I know nothing besides that.

If anyone has any information, that would be great. Every time another page 
loads, I tell myself that this will be the page...

Thanks
Monica :)

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