Re: [backstage] weather feed: thursday
On 11/09/2007 07:31 AM, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote: weather feed: thursday why is the BBC weather feed showing thursday's weather? http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/24hr.shtml?world=0008 I do find this fairly frequently and rather unhelpful. It's a beta for the BBC's new weather catch-up service, iMbrella. If you missed yesterday's weather, you can catch it again today. Note that, because of the use of Digital Rain Management, sunlight is not presently available through this new service. -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
hitler On 8/11/07 21:52, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:09, Brian Butterworth wrote: But it is the origination of netiquette - the document is dated October 1995, No, it's not. Nettiquette's been around a lot longer than 95. The first place I came across the concept was via my brother in '91 and that was due to seeing a copy of Emily Postnews's guide. The earliest copy google groups (nee deja news) has of this as far as I can tell is this: * http://tinyurl.com/2w8654 Which is 19 Aug 1988. The earliest reference I can find to netiquette dates back nearly 25 years which is here: http://tinyurl.com/2kl7bs (15 Nov 1982) However the way its used there implies that it was well known as a really nice idea. By comparison, RFC822 is also dated 1982, 4 months earlier. In the beginning was email and usenet, then from the depths of the first mighty flame war, lo did a code of conduct arise, and its name hence for evermore was netiquette and in its mighty name did spawn more and bloodier flame wars indeed yea, from then until the end of time. *ahem* Now please can we go back to the principle of netiquette? (Which is of course anyone who breaks it has to buy the next round :-D ) Michael. (tempted to nominate next thursday as international netiquette day) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On 11/9/07, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hitler A rather crude invocation of Godwin's Law - but does that mean this discussion is now closed? - martin - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On 09/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hitler Ahahahah! This is the funniest invokation of Godwin's Law I have ever seen. From a BBC address too - I wonder if you're boss would be happy with this? -- Noah Slater http://www.bytesexual.org/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. - R. Stallman - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
You can't deliberately invoke Godwins law: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html So the silliness is set to continue. Vijay. On 09/11/2007, Martin Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/9/07, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hitler A rather crude invocation of Godwin's Law - but does that mean this discussion is now closed? - martin - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On 09/11/2007, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't deliberately invoke Godwins law: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html So the silliness is set to continue. Please vijay, RFC 1149 and 2549 clearly state that referenced hyperlinks included within the message body should be indented by no less than two U+0020 (SPACE) characters. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html Please make sure you follow these rudimentary netiquette guidelines in future. -- Noah Slater http://www.bytesexual.org/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. - R. Stallman - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
Mornington Crescent! (Oh, sorry, wrong game) On 09/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Churchill -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
Sorry no you can't do a cross lateral insertion in the backstage version of the game. Please refer to the rule wiki. Euston. m On 9/11/07 11:37, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mornington Crescent! (Oh, sorry, wrong game) On 09/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Churchill ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
vijay chopra wrote: You can't deliberately invoke Godwins law: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html I think you'll find that he can, since he did, although I accept that the chances of a successful Godwinizing are low. (Plus, if anyone gets to pull rank on this list, it'll be Matthew or Ian -- that they'll do it with good humour is a bonus.) Personally, I was waiting to see whether anyone's irony fuse was going to blow, since arguing in public about how good your manners are is a fairly robust demonstration of how good they aren't. -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On Nov 9, 2007 12:02 PM, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2007 11:07 AM, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/11/2007, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't deliberately invoke Godwins law: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html So the silliness is set to continue. Please vijay, RFC 1149 and 2549 clearly state that referenced hyperlinks included within the message body should be indented by no less than two U+0020 (SPACE) characters. I think you'll find that's two fewer. ;-) Cheers, R. Whoops - fewer than two. :-) R. -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX
Re: Etiquette and TCP (was Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails)
On Friday 09 November 2007 01:34, Christopher Woods wrote: Does anybody have a new mashup to show off? I wrote this in my spare time for use at home: * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/KamaeliaGrey - it's a greylisting SMTP proxy for eliminating spam. It uses Kamaelia which is something I developed at work. My home email tends to have the ratio of 4% spam, 96% non-spam. (before adding it my email was 96% spam, 4% spam) I've been running it for handling my email at home for the past couple of months, and it's been pretty solid that entire time filtering around 77,000 messages in that time. Given 96% of those were spam, that means I've not had to do anything with ~74000 messages. Assuming 1 second to categorise each, that's a saving of ~21 hours. Unlike a spambayes approach the cpu usage is next to nothing. It took less than 21 hours to write (probably more like 10 hours or so all told spread over a the weekend a few evenings) though so there's a net benefit. You can consider it a mashup if you like because Kamaelia components have outboxes and inboxes which are mashed together. If you think of outboxes like RSS feeds (or pull from atom pubsub) and inboxes as being similar to push in AtomPub, then the differences are conceptually minimal. You then join the dots together, much like in a mashup. Regards, Michael - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On Nov 9, 2007 11:07 AM, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/11/2007, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't deliberately invoke Godwins law: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html So the silliness is set to continue. Please vijay, RFC 1149 and 2549 clearly state that referenced hyperlinks included within the message body should be indented by no less than two U+0020 (SPACE) characters. I think you'll find that's two fewer. ;-) Cheers, R.
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On 09/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html Hehe, RFC1149 never fails to make me laugh, I've never seen RFC2549 before though: Avian carriers normally bypass bridges and tunnels but will seek out worm hole tunnels. When carrying web traffic, the carriers may digest the spiders, leaving behind a more compact representation. The carriers may be confused by mirrors. Round-robin queueing is not recommended. Robins make for well-tuned networks but do not support the necessary auto-homing feature. Classic. Vijay.
[backstage] Freesat and backstage?
Dearest readers of this electronic messaging system, I would be most delighted if you cast your impeccable intelligences over this page of hypertexual links http://www.rapidtvnews.com/default.asp?sourceid=smenu=1twindow=mad=sdetail=2313wpage=1skeyword=sidate=ccat=ccatm=restate=restatus=reoption=retype=repmin=repmax=rebed=rebath=subname=pform=sc=1966hn=rapidtvnewshe=.com If it pleases your most gracious personages to consider the possibilities that the proposed joyful service that is to be brought unto our homes under the delightful moniker of Freesat (literally, satellite without charge, from the English) may be enhanced to a state of primordial ecstasy if certain enhancements could be provided from our collective considerable intelligence. I would propose that Freesat and backstage could provide some special services for Freesat upon the commencement of the service in Springtime of the year ultimate. For your consideration potential applications may be: - enhanced cartographic display of precipitations and other meteorological factors; - a service of podcasts downloads for a most personal video recorder; - an electronic alternative guide of programmes; Does anyone concur? Your most humble savant Brian
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage?
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT LOL -- Noah Slater http://www.bytesexual.org/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. - R. Stallman - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage?
I understand why you have to react this way Matthew, but after the discussion on netiquette and politeness, you must admit that was expleteve deleted hilarious. Vijay. On 09/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to say this once and once only - this is not appropriate on the mailing list - this is a warning for everyone - if you behave in this manor you will be removed from the list. Please consider this a polite warning... Next time action will be taken. M
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage?
On 11/9/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand why you have to react this way Matthew, but after the discussion on netiquette and politeness, you must admit that was expleteve deleted hilarious. Vijay. I will also have to agree. It was amazing. -spiros On 09/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to say this once and once only - this is not appropriate on the mailing list - this is a warning for everyone - if you behave in this manor you will be removed from the list. Please consider this a polite warning... Next time action will be taken. M
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage?
Dave, I have to say I wasn't even remotely offended! I would say I laughed but that might be inappropriate. On 09/11/2007, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/11/2007, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone concur? WHAT THE IS THIS -- Regards, Dave This message is intended to be amusing and does not reflect the view or sense of humour of any of my employers. I apologise if anyone was offended for this inappropriate behavior, after a year of discussion on this list with Brian I have a certain sense of camaraderie but this was crossing a line. Apologies. -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
[backstage] Freesat and backstage - can we MHEG? Yes we can...
Freesat is launching next Spring. From what I understand it will use MHEG5 to deliver the interactive services. Given the rather old-fashioned look of the current crop of OpenTV services on digital satellite, I thought perhaps backstage.bbc.co.uk could come up with some better: - weather maps (3D? Local ones? Travel ones etc) - an alternative electronic programme guide - a BBC podcast download service for a PVR This might be any easy win for backstage!
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage?
On 11/9/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would propose that Freesat and backstage could provide some special services for Freesat upon the commencement of the service in Springtime of the year ultimate. An interesting proposition - however, extra datacasting services would still require bandwidth from somewhere. Whom would you expect to pay for this? - martin - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage - can we MHEG? Yes we can...
On 09/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - an alternative electronic programme guide By alternative, do you mean user-generated, so when there's some low quality programming people can , ahem, express their opinions? -- Regards, Dave This email is personal opinion and doesn't reflect any views of any employers. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage?
On 09/11/2007, Martin Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/9/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would propose that Freesat and backstage could provide some special services for Freesat upon the commencement of the service in Springtime of the year ultimate. An interesting proposition - however, extra datacasting services would still require bandwidth from somewhere. Whom would you expect to pay for this? The BBC? I thought we would be mashing up Auntie's data... I was hoping the idea should be to increase the value of Freesat... - martin - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage - can we MHEG? Yes we can...
Brian Butterworth wrote: On 09/11/2007, *Dave Crossland* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - an alternative electronic programme guide By alternative, do you mean user-generated, so when there's some low quality programming people can , ahem, express their opinions? I guess that would depend upon if the system has a return path - like an ethernet connection! Actually, I wondered whether you were suggesting, say, a satellite/ Interweb mash-up of some kind, where the Freesat box's MHEG engine could incorporate data from somewhere other than the satellite, and had the programmability to be able to embed, or otherwise render, the secondary data into the display. So, for example, in the EPG, you could ask to have rottentomato.com votes for upcoming movies incorporated, which would require the box to be able to: a) grab those ratings, and b) correlate them with the EPG entries without c) the EPG interface becoming ludicrous. Even usefuller would be the ability to grab personalized gubbins from sites based on your very own ID, so that your have your mates' insane opinions show up, with hilarious consequences. -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Freesat and backstage - can we MHEG? Yes we can...
On 09/11/2007, Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, for example, in the EPG, you could ask to have rottentomato.com votes for upcoming movies incorporated, which would require the box to be able to: a) grab those ratings, and b) correlate them with the EPG entries without c) the EPG interface becoming ludicrous. Even usefuller would be the ability to grab personalized gubbins from sites based on your very own ID, so that your have your mates' insane opinions show up, with hilarious consequences. WHAT THE, oh wait, no - that's exactly the kind of awesome stuff I meant to suggest :-D -- Regards, Dave Personal opinion only, doesn't reflect the views of any employers. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: Etiquette and TCP (was Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails)
Oooo, now that's an interesting one, I'll hav to give that a try (I get tons of the crap and although I have on-server mail filtering I get them all delivered to my PC anyway to avoid not receiving false positives). Also evaluating various on-PC mail filters for my Mum (who's your typical learn-by-rote PC user, so it has to be easy to use!) Cheers for the point-out mate, I'll have to check that out this weekend! :) (PS - anyone else going to SBES @ the NEC on the 14th or 15th?) -Original Message- From: Michael Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2007 12:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: Etiquette and TCP (was Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails) On Friday 09 November 2007 01:34, Christopher Woods wrote: Does anybody have a new mashup to show off? I wrote this in my spare time for use at home: * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/KamaeliaGrey - it's a greylisting SMTP proxy for eliminating spam. It uses Kamaelia which is something I developed at work. My home email tends to have the ratio of 4% spam, 96% non-spam. (before adding it my email was 96% spam, 4% spam) I've been running it for handling my email at home for the past couple of months, and it's been pretty solid that entire time filtering around 77,000 messages in that time. Given 96% of those were spam, that means I've not had to do anything with ~74000 messages. Assuming 1 second to categorise each, that's a saving of ~21 hours. Unlike a spambayes approach the cpu usage is next to nothing. It took less than 21 hours to write (probably more like 10 hours or so all told spread over a the weekend a few evenings) though so there's a net benefit. You can consider it a mashup if you like because Kamaelia components have outboxes and inboxes which are mashed together. If you think of outboxes like RSS feeds (or pull from atom pubsub) and inboxes as being similar to push in AtomPub, then the differences are conceptually minimal. You then join the dots together, much like in a mashup. Regards, Michael - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Need your help!
Hi guys I know this isn't necessary related to this email forum, however I am writing if somebody out there could help me find a solution. I work for a nightclub chain, and have a mpeg of our logo which I have been asked by my boss to convert onto a DVD. the only problem is that I don't know where to find the right codec to download (or what the right one would be.) I have gone back to the orginal company but they don't know either... I have uploaded the file here : http://www.timbionline.googlepages.com/5074ambient_neon.mpe the file is about 7mb so sorry about the size. I have tried some programmes like AVIcodec, (it says which codec is required to play file) but it doesn't work with MPEGs. Thanks for your time. TIM BISHOP -- This email is intended for the named recipient(s) only. Its contents are confidential and may only be retained by the named recipient(s) and may only be copied or disclosed with the prior consent of Timothy-John Bishop. If you are not the intended recipient please discard this email and notify the sender as quickly as possible. This email and any attached files have been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. However, you are advised that you open any attachments at your own risk. Please note that electronic mail may be monitored in accordance with the Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practices) (Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000.
