Re: [backstage] cool visualisation thing for text
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Alia Sheikh wrote: So I might be coming late to the party, but have y'all seen this? http://wordle.net/ Not all that late, as far as I can see - nothing particularly new (I have a backstage tag cloud tshirt somewhere...) but a nice and simple way of playing with clouds. Flickr has been filling up with various screengrabs for the last week or so, with some vaguely interesting ones popping up from time to time: http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=allq=wordlem=text Sticking the complete text of books seems to be the current fad, which produces occasionally interesting, but generally pretty things. I ran my del.icio.us tags through it and it worryingly accurately described my brain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cowfish/2583141053/). It's all rather pretty and has me wondering if I should do unspeakable things with scheduling data. Yes, you should. --billy -- http://billyabbott.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] cool visualisation thing for text
Alia, Thanks for posting that. They are quite interesting and pretty word clouds. I'm just wondering if people actually use them? For example, they used to appear on sites like CiF, but they have been removed. They also seem a usability nightmare... I'm guessing there is probably some massive successful word cloud out there and I've just missed it? 2008/6/19 Alia Sheikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I might be coming late to the party, but have y'all seen this? http://wordle.net/ It's a toy for generating 'word clouds' from text that you provide. The clouds give greater prominence to words that appear more frequently in the source text. You can tweak your clouds with different fonts, layouts, and color schemes. The images you create with Wordle are yours to use however you like. It's all rather pretty and has me wondering if I should do unspeakable things with scheduling data. Alia - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] cool visualisation thing for text
I just realised that these are just pictures, the don't actually do anything... 2008/6/19 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alia, Thanks for posting that. They are quite interesting and pretty word clouds. I'm just wondering if people actually use them? For example, they used to appear on sites like CiF, but they have been removed. They also seem a usability nightmare... I'm guessing there is probably some massive successful word cloud out there and I've just missed it? 2008/6/19 Alia Sheikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I might be coming late to the party, but have y'all seen this? http://wordle.net/ It's a toy for generating 'word clouds' from text that you provide. The clouds give greater prominence to words that appear more frequently in the source text. You can tweak your clouds with different fonts, layouts, and color schemes. The images you create with Wordle are yours to use however you like. It's all rather pretty and has me wondering if I should do unspeakable things with scheduling data. Alia - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] cool visualisation thing for text
I'm just wondering if people actually use them? For example, they used to appear on sites like CiF, but they have been removed. Probably shortly after Jeffry Zeldman described them as the mullet of web 2.0 ;) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] cool visualisation thing for text
yup, 'fraid so:) I just rather liked it wikipedia gets you any number of more useful ones under Tag Cloud Tools and Articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud Alia Brian Butterworth wrote: I just realised that these are just pictures, the don't actually do anything... 2008/6/19 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alia, Thanks for posting that. They are quite interesting and pretty word clouds. I'm just wondering if people actually use them? For example, they used to appear on sites like CiF, but they have been removed. They also seem a usability nightmare... I'm guessing there is probably some massive successful word cloud out there and I've just missed it? 2008/6/19 Alia Sheikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I might be coming late to the party, but have y'all seen this? http://wordle.net/ It's a toy for generating 'word clouds' from text that you provide. The clouds give greater prominence to words that appear more frequently in the source text. You can tweak your clouds with different fonts, layouts, and color schemes. The images you create with Wordle are yours to use however you like. It's all rather pretty and has me wondering if I should do unspeakable things with scheduling data. Alia - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
We're making that code, some demo apps and some open source applications available that will let you use mp3 tags to enhance audio with images, chapters and descriptive text. We are also providing enhanced versions of the Chris Moyles podcast for you to play around with. This is completely awesome. small bug: the link Our HTML based enhanced MP3 player points at http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/url; which is wrong. Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
since I'm about to add things to that page right now, this was extremely useful, thanks:):) Alia Phil Wilson wrote: We're making that code, some demo apps and some open source applications available that will let you use mp3 tags to enhance audio with images, chapters and descriptive text. We are also providing enhanced versions of the Chris Moyles podcast for you to play around with. This is completely awesome. small bug: the link Our HTML based enhanced MP3 player points at http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/url; which is wrong. Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
2008/6/18 Alia Sheikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So last week there was some discussion on this list about writing an app that let you skip the boring bits of a podcast, and I mentioned that we had some code that would let you do just that. We're making that code, some demo apps and some open source applications available that will let you use mp3 tags to enhance audio with images, chapters and descriptive text. We are also providing enhanced versions of the Chris Moyles podcast for you to play around with. A very useful feature for the Moyles podcast would be a button to press to skip the boring bits between the music... I'll get my coat. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
I find the easiest way to skip the boring bits in the Moyles podcast is to simply not download it. Cheers, Rich. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/18 Alia Sheikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So last week there was some discussion on this list about writing an app that let you skip the boring bits of a podcast, and I mentioned that we had some code that would let you do just that. We're making that code, some demo apps and some open source applications available that will let you use mp3 tags to enhance audio with images, chapters and descriptive text. We are also providing enhanced versions of the Chris Moyles podcast for you to play around with. A very useful feature for the Moyles podcast would be a button to press to skip the boring bits between the music... I'll get my coat. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
all fixed, in case you're waiting on that:) someone has suggested another CoolThing we could do for the audio visualisation stuff too, so we're currently flapping a bit sorting that out... Phil Wilson wrote: We're making that code, some demo apps and some open source applications available that will let you use mp3 tags to enhance audio with images, chapters and descriptive text. We are also providing enhanced versions of the Chris Moyles podcast for you to play around with. This is completely awesome. small bug: the link Our HTML based enhanced MP3 player points at http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/url; which is wrong. Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
On Thursday 19 June 2008 12:41:38 Alia Sheikh wrote: so we're currently flapping a bit sorting that out... Are you really /flapping/ ? :) Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
actual flight was achieved, albeit briefly Michael wrote: On Thursday 19 June 2008 12:41:38 Alia Sheikh wrote: so we're currently flapping a bit sorting that out... Are you really /flapping/ ? :) Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use visualisations of audio in your mashups!
Alia, Again, that looks nifty. For my thinking, though, I'd be much more drawn to the feature vectors that you're extracting, especially as it could possibly be combined with: http://developer.echonest.com/docs/analyze Any possibility of this happening? adam Alia Sheikh wrote: Hi again! We've been doing some work on automatically extracting colours from audio, to allow us to better navigate that audio. It works suprisingly well at actually revealing the structure of a peice of audio content. For Mashed we're making available a web-based service that allows you to put an mp3 in and get a coloured jpg out, for use in any way you see fit. More info at: http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=26 Email me ifor a username and password to the service, if you'd like to have a play beforehand. Alia Sheikh Research Engineer Kingswood Warren - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use visualisations of audio in your mashups!
Hi Adam, sounds like you've read the white paper?:) so the current flap is about this promise we've made on the website: At this web page http://mprr.kw.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/vis/avnyou'll be able to generate your own jpg visualisatons for your mp3 files and use them in your mashups. You will also find a download link to get the visualisation data as a text file of RGB values (once we've added this functionality!) Would that do you?:) I can talk to you at *great length* on the day about where the rgb values come from and how to generate them from scratch. Alia-currently-typing-this-with-one-finger-while-eating-lunch Adam Lindsay wrote: Alia, Again, that looks nifty. For my thinking, though, I'd be much more drawn to the feature vectors that you're extracting, especially as it could possibly be combined with: http://developer.echonest.com/docs/analyze Any possibility of this happening? adam Alia Sheikh wrote: Hi again! We've been doing some work on automatically extracting colours from audio, to allow us to better navigate that audio. It works suprisingly well at actually revealing the structure of a peice of audio content. For Mashed we're making available a web-based service that allows you to put an mp3 in and get a coloured jpg out, for use in any way you see fit. More info at: http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=26 Email me ifor a username and password to the service, if you'd like to have a play beforehand. Alia Sheikh Research Engineer Kingswood Warren - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use visualisations of audio in your mashups!
Alia-currently-typing-this-with-one-finger-while-eating-lunch Alia, what IS for lunch?
Re: [backstage] Use visualisations of audio in your mashups!
Coool. That, indeed, is flap-worthy. I think I need to find a proper sleeping bag now. adam Alia Sheikh wrote: Hi Adam, sounds like you've read the white paper?:) so the current flap is about this promise we've made on the website: At this web page http://mprr.kw.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/vis/avnyou'll be able to generate your own jpg visualisatons for your mp3 files and use them in your mashups. You will also find a download link to get the visualisation data as a text file of RGB values (once we've added this functionality!) Would that do you?:) I can talk to you at *great length* on the day about where the rgb values come from and how to generate them from scratch. Alia-currently-typing-this-with-one-finger-while-eating-lunch Adam Lindsay wrote: Alia, Again, that looks nifty. For my thinking, though, I'd be much more drawn to the feature vectors that you're extracting, especially as it could possibly be combined with: http://developer.echonest.com/docs/analyze Any possibility of this happening? adam Alia Sheikh wrote: Hi again! We've been doing some work on automatically extracting colours from audio, to allow us to better navigate that audio. It works suprisingly well at actually revealing the structure of a peice of audio content. For Mashed we're making available a web-based service that allows you to put an mp3 in and get a coloured jpg out, for use in any way you see fit. More info at: http://mashed08.backnetwork.com/event/?articleid=26 Email me ifor a username and password to the service, if you'd like to have a play beforehand. Alia Sheikh Research Engineer Kingswood Warren - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use visualisations of audio in your mashups!
er, the remains of the curry we ordered in at work late yesterday evening I'm afraid I didn't make innovative use of it, but some synergies were leveraged. Ohyes. Matt Barber wrote: Alia-currently-typing-this-with-one-finger-while-eating-lunch Alia, what IS for lunch? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
