[backstage] Guardian article about iPhone iPlayer
Thought that people might find this interesting: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/mar/13/digitalvideo.television S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Guardian article about iPhone iPlayer
On Thursday 13 March 2008 12:25:38 Steve Jolly wrote: > Thought that people might find this interesting: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/mar/13/digitalvideo.television > > S > And the BBC reply: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7293988.stm signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [backstage] Guardian article about iPhone iPlayer
Well, H.264/AAC is great for preventing technically challenged Windows users from avoiding DRM, since it is used by everybody worldwide with one exception... Microsoft Media Player. Well, WMP supports MPEG-1, that's already something. H.264/AAC *is* supported in the Xbox, which has a magnetic field around it to prevent any connection to a computer (joke) Sean On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Andy Halsall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 13 March 2008 12:25:38 Steve Jolly wrote: > > Thought that people might find this interesting: > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/mar/13/digitalvideo.television > > > > S > > > > And the BBC reply: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7293988.stm > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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I like the way that the article suggests I'm suddenly a 1337 h4x0r because I can chnge the user agent on my browser. Vijay. On 13/03/2008, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thought that people might find this interesting: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/mar/13/digitalvideo.television > > S > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ >
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vijay chopra wrote: I like the way that the article suggests I'm suddenly a 1337 h4x0r because I can chnge the user agent on my browser. See? I knew people would appreciate it. :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Yep! I'm going off to pWn the Gruniad's site now by downloading it to my PC using the 1337 h4x0r tool known as Firefox! Seriously that article is downright funny in how it goes out of it's way to avoid how these "hackers" are "circumvent[ing] the BBC's anti-piracy systems". My guess is that the stupid journo doesn't either actually understand the issues or didn't bother to find out how people were getting the DRM free stream; stupid or lazy, take your pick. The BBC response article is only marginally better, again referring to "hackers" for no apparent reason though they at least have a motive to mislead: propaganda. Though I probably shouldn't attribute to malice what's adequately explained by stupidity. Vijay On 13/03/2008, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > vijay chopra wrote: > > I like the way that the article suggests I'm suddenly a 1337 h4x0r > > because I can chnge the user agent on my browser. > > > See? I knew people would appreciate it. :-) > > > S > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ >
Re: [backstage] Guardian article about iPhone iPlayer
vijay chopra wrote: The BBC response article is only marginally better, again referring to "hackers" for no apparent reason though they at least have a motive to mislead: propaganda. Though I probably shouldn't attribute to malice what's adequately explained by stupidity. Personally, I can think of explanations that don't insult the journalist in question. :-) That aside though, the BBC News website has a form for people to report factual errors which you could use if you felt sufficiently strongly about the matter. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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I'm sorry I just despair for the journalists in this country. In theory they should be a paragon of virtue, holding authority to account, uncovering misdeeds and campaigning on behalf of the citizenry. Instead we get dumbing down and catering to the lowest common denominator; and then they wonder why they have falling circulation. The only dead tree press I buy now is Private Eye. Vijay. On 13/03/2008, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Personally, I can think of explanations that don't insult the journalist > in question. :-) That aside though, the BBC News website has a form for > people to report factual errors which you could use if you felt > sufficiently strongly about the matter. > > > S > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ >
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vijay chopra wrote: I'm sorry I just despair for the journalists in this country. In theory they should be a paragon of virtue, holding authority to account, uncovering misdeeds and campaigning on behalf of the citizenry. Instead we get dumbing down and catering to the lowest common denominator; and then they wonder why they have falling circulation. The only dead tree press I buy now is Private Eye. You sure know how to make friends with people who work for the country's largest news-gathering organisation. ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Sorry, I was probably being overly broad in my use of the term "journalists" I was referring in the main to those that work of our so called newspapers (we did start with an article from the Gurniad). To be fair to them, the BBC are much better at actually reporting on the facts, even when they're at they're worst (such as the Panorama episode on wi-fi) they remain streaks ahead of the headline writers of Fleet Street, to whom the terms "fact checking" and "research" are bizarre things that other people do. Vijay. On 13/03/2008, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > vijay chopra wrote: > > I'm sorry I just despair for the journalists in this country. In theory > > they should be a paragon of virtue, holding authority to account, > > uncovering misdeeds and campaigning on behalf of the citizenry. > > Instead we get dumbing down and catering to the lowest common > > denominator; and then they wonder why they have falling circulation. > > The only dead tree press I buy now is Private Eye. > > > You sure know how to make friends with people who work for the country's > largest news-gathering organisation. ;-) > > > S > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ >
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You have to bear in mind that these 'journalists' are or start out as good people wanting to do a good job. Their employers are driven by market demand. So the pressure is to tailor output to market demand. Market demand is us. All of us, en masse. That's the capitalist system. If you are unhappy with the output of journalists you have to look at why they are (allegedly) so crap at it. The answer is to overthrow the system, man!Cheers, Ivan On 3/13/08, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, I was probably being overly broad in my use of the term > "journalists" I was referring in the main to those that work of our so > called newspapers (we did start with an article from the Gurniad). To be > fair to them, the BBC are much better at actually reporting on the facts, > even when they're at they're worst (such as the Panorama episode on wi-fi) > they remain streaks ahead of the headline writers of Fleet Street, to whom > the terms "fact checking" and "research" are bizarre things that other > people do. > > Vijay. > > On 13/03/2008, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > vijay chopra wrote: > > > I'm sorry I just despair for the journalists in this country. In > > theory > > > they should be a paragon of virtue, holding authority to account, > > > uncovering misdeeds and campaigning on behalf of the citizenry. > > > Instead we get dumbing down and catering to the lowest common > > > denominator; and then they wonder why they have falling circulation. > > > The only dead tree press I buy now is Private Eye. > > > > > > You sure know how to make friends with people who work for the country's > > largest news-gathering organisation. ;-) > > > > > > S > > - > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > > please visit > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial > > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > > > -- Ivan Pope Snipperoo 50 Providence Place BN1 4GE Brighton 01273808458 blog.snipperoo.com directory.snipperoo.com Widget Conference http://widgetwebexpo.com
Re: [backstage] Guardian article about iPhone iPlayer
I too was disappointed by the cluelessness of most mainstream journalists, and having worked as a tech journalist some years ago, I decided the best way to combat sloppy journalism was with better journalism. I still make mistakes though, and when that happens I try to do better next time. Sean. On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Ivan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have to bear in mind that these 'journalists' are or start out as good > people wanting to do a good job. Their employers are driven by market > demand. So the pressure is to tailor output to market demand. Market demand > is us. All of us, en masse. That's the capitalist system. If you are unhappy > with the output of journalists you have to look at why they are (allegedly) > so crap at it. The answer is to overthrow the system, man! > Cheers, > Ivan > > > > On 3/13/08, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, I was probably being overly broad in my use of the term > "journalists" I was referring in the main to those that work of our so > called newspapers (we did start with an article from the Gurniad). To be > fair to them, the BBC are much better at actually reporting on the facts, > even when they're at they're worst (such as the Panorama episode on wi-fi) > they remain streaks ahead of the headline writers of Fleet Street, to whom > the terms "fact checking" and "research" are bizarre things that other > people do. > > > > Vijay. > > > > > > On 13/03/2008, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > vijay chopra wrote: > > > > I'm sorry I just despair for the journalists in this country. In > theory > > > > they should be a paragon of virtue, holding authority to account, > > > > uncovering misdeeds and campaigning on behalf of the citizenry. > > > > Instead we get dumbing down and catering to the lowest common > > > > denominator; and then they wonder why they have falling circulation. > > > > The only dead tree press I buy now is Private Eye. > > > > > > > > > You sure know how to make friends with people who work for the country's > > > largest news-gathering organisation. ;-) > > > > > > > > > S > > > - > > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ivan Pope > Snipperoo > 50 Providence Place > BN1 4GE Brighton > > 01273808458 > > blog.snipperoo.com > directory.snipperoo.com > > Widget Conference > http://widgetwebexpo.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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"" The BBC has issued a fix to stop people downloading programmes from the iPlayer website that were intended for streaming on an iPhone or iPod only "" A fix? But the hack still works.. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Guardian article about iPhone iPlayer
I would like the iPlayer to work on my N95, but I don't think it would have as much impact as the iPhone release, aside from the ease of use that the iPhone tends to give to all activities it provides, the screen is much bigger, warranting the effort to bring the iPlayer to that platform. The N95 does have video output right out of the box, literally the box comes with the cable to connect it up to RCA jacks. Not saying the quality would be at all acceptable on a screen bigger than a postage stamp, but that's a cool feature that I have never used apart from novelty value for 5 minutes. With reliably updated, well sourced material (like the iPlayer), I think more features like that would get used. What would be excellent, is if the N95 could output a higher res to the video out jack. It might be able to when viewing photos, but I doubt video would scale up any higher than it's native screen res. Then we could send decent iPlayer content to it over wifi, and watch it on TV even easier than hooking up a laptop. (It's been a long day...) :) So has anyone got any thoughts on this, and can think of other devices with video output that could make life easier to watch in the living room, without having to use a laptop? (loving the mashed photos by the way everyone, keep putting them up :)) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Arkham.p77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "" The BBC has issued a fix to stop people downloading programmes from > the iPlayer website that were intended for streaming on an iPhone or > iPod only "" > > A fix? But the hack still works.. > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ >