Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien
Hi,

Perhaps with dd ? Something like :

(on the old server)#dd if=/dev/old_partition | ssh new_server dd 
of=/dev/new_partition (perhaps indicate the bs= ? But with which ?)

Or with netcat and dd like that :

(new_server)#nc -l -p 1 > /dev/new_part

(old_server)#dd if=/dev/old_part | nc -w 5 @IP_new_server 1

So, no problem with hard link etc.

Hope that help,

Pierre-Damien

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> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 08:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 09, 2006  5:00 AM, daniel berteaud wrote:
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> > >You can use rsync to do that, something like
> > >
> > >rsync -avP -H /old_location [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new_location
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> > >should do the trick
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > You can also just tar up the backuppc directory and move it 
> as one chunk.  You are going to have to reinstall backuppc on 
> the new server of course.  
> 
> There are several ways to copy the archive with the hardlinks 
> intact, but they tend to be slow if the archive is large.  It 
> may be easier to just duplicate the configuration on a new 
> server and let it accumulate its own history of new backups.  
> Meanwhile you can stop the old one but keep it around in case 
> you have to access the older backups.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 16:49 +0100, GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien wrote:

> Perhaps with dd ? Something like :
> (on the old server)#dd if=/dev/old_partition | ssh new_server dd 
> of=/dev/new_partition (perhaps indicate the bs= ? But with which ?)


That approach will work as long as (a) the partitions involved aren't
mounted during the transfer and (b) they are the same size. You might
be able to use the filesystem tools to resize after the transfer.e

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 11/10 04:49 , GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien wrote:
> Perhaps with dd ? Something like :
> 
> (on the old server)#dd if=/dev/old_partition | ssh new_server dd 
> of=/dev/new_partition (perhaps indicate the bs= ? But with which ?)
> 
> Or with netcat and dd like that :
> 
> (new_server)#nc -l -p 1 > /dev/new_part
> 
> (old_server)#dd if=/dev/old_part | nc -w 5 @IP_new_server 1

this is basically what I did when I had to move a 100GB backuppc partition
from one machine to another. it only took about 12 hours; whereas it would
have taken days if done with tar or anything else that read hard links.

I probably did something like:

old-machine# dd if=/dev/vg00/lv00 | gzip | nc newhost 
new-machine# nc -l -p  | gunzip | dd of=/dev/vg00/backup

then resize the filesystem that was copied, to take advantage of the space
on the new partition on the new machine.

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[BackupPC-users] ok iam lost

2006-11-10 Thread William McInnis
ok so i have the GUI up and i dont have half of the options you have on your 
screen shots iam missing 

config file 
hosts file
current queues 
log file
old logs 
email summary

is there a good how to on this software becuase iam soo lost please someone 
help me

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien
> > Or with netcat and dd like that :
> > 
> > (new_server)#nc -l -p 1 > /dev/new_part
> > 
> > (old_server)#dd if=/dev/old_part | nc -w 5 @IP_new_server 1
> 
> this is basically what I did when I had to move a 100GB 
> backuppc partition from one machine to another. it only took 
> about 12 hours; whereas it would have taken days if done with 
> tar or anything else that read hard links.
> 
> I probably did something like:
> 
> old-machine# dd if=/dev/vg00/lv00 | gzip | nc newhost  
> new-machine# nc -l -p  | gunzip | dd of=/dev/vg00/backup

I'm not sure that gzip works good with dd. I tested a dd / gzip and dd
alone, dd alone was faster :)
The inconvenient with dd is that it copies all bloc, even those
unused... I read something if there is unused space on the partition,
create a file with /dev/zero, and next use gzip

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 11/10 06:37 , GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien wrote:
> > I probably did something like:
> > 
> > old-machine# dd if=/dev/vg00/lv00 | gzip | nc newhost  
> > new-machine# nc -l -p  | gunzip | dd of=/dev/vg00/backup
> 
> I'm not sure that gzip works good with dd. I tested a dd / gzip and dd
> alone, dd alone was faster :)

that could very well be. it all depends how fast your link is and how much
idle time your CPU has. your mileage almost certainly will vary. :)
I could very well have done the wrong thing there, if I did indeed use some
compression on the link.

> The inconvenient with dd is that it copies all bloc, even those
> unused... I read something if there is unused space on the partition,
> create a file with /dev/zero, and next use gzip

ah. yes. good idea. 
I don't remember if I did that before dd'ing the partition across the wire,
but I might have.

# dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile.img

# rm bigfile.img

it really does make a disk partition much smaller after compression.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] ok iam lost

2006-11-10 Thread Jason Hughes
Make sure you have set an admin user to be the user name that should 
have complete access to BackupPC from the CGI:

$Conf{CgiAdminUsers} = 'panther';

Without this set, anyone you log in as is only a user, and can only see 
the machines that the hosts file declares to be associated with that user.

Hope this helps,
JH

William McInnis wrote:
> ok so i have the GUI up and i dont have half of the options you have on your 
> screen shots iam missing 
>
> config file 
> hosts file
> current queues 
> log file
> old logs 
> email summary
>
> is there a good how to on this software becuase iam soo lost please someone 
> help me
>
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[BackupPC-users] Exclude files issue...

2006-11-10 Thread Rob Morin
So i have this in a conf file for a certain server, so in this case in 
the file stewy.pl i have

$Conf{RsyncShareName} = 
['/etc','/var/www/virtual','/var/cache/bind','/var/mail/virtual'];

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = ['/var/www/virtual/*/logs', 
'/var/www/virtual/*/backups'];

However it keeps backing the log dirs in /var/www/virtual/domain.com/

What am i doing wrong?

:(

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Exclude files issue...

2006-11-10 Thread Les Stott
Rob Morin wrote:
> So i have this in a conf file for a certain server, so in this case in 
> the file stewy.pl i have
>
> $Conf{RsyncShareName} = 
> ['/etc','/var/www/virtual','/var/cache/bind','/var/mail/virtual'];
>
> $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = ['/var/www/virtual/*/logs', 
> '/var/www/virtual/*/backups'];
>
> However it keeps backing the log dirs in /var/www/virtual/domain.com/
>
> What am i doing wrong?
>
>   
Excludes are relative to your share names...thus your excludes should 
like like this..

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = ['/*/logs', '/*/backups'];

You may also want to be specific with excludes per share like below

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {

'/var/www/virtual' => ['/*/logs', '/*/backups'],
};

That way the exclude only happens for the share you want.

Regards,

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[BackupPC-users] what about a tape drive

2006-11-10 Thread William McInnis
ok i have a tape drive is there  a way to get all my backups say every friday 
to a tape ?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] what about a tape drive

2006-11-10 Thread Vincent Fleuranceau
2006/11/10, William McInnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> ok i have a tape drive is there  a way to get all my backups say every friday
> to a tape ?

I  run the following command from the crontab :

sudo -u backuppc /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate -h
 -t -n -1 -s  / > /dev/nst0

Feel free to aks more info.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] what about a tape drive

2006-11-10 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
William McInnis wrote:
> ok i have a tape drive is there  a way to get all my backups say every friday 
> to a tape ?
> 

I use such a script - it retrieves the last full backup from BackupPC 
archive, and makes tar.gz packages out of it.
When the packages are done, you can write them to tape.


For some more info, I placed the script here: 
http://wpkg.org/index.php/BackupPC_-_restoring_backups_from_command_line


#!/bin/bash

# Script for restoring hosts (last full backup) from command line.
# The restored backups can be found in $RESTOREDIR (defined below),
# and are to be written on tape.

BACKUPPCDIR=/srv/backuppc-data
HOSTSDIR=$BACKUPPCDIR/pc
RESTOREDIR=$HOSTSDIR/restore/restore

# put the hosts/directories you don't want to restore into egrep...
HOSTS=$(ls $HOSTSDIR | egrep -v '(HOST_CONFIG_FILES|restore)' | tr / " ")
# or use:
# HOSTS="HOST1 HOST2 REMOTE3"

# just a spacer... '


# no need to change anything below...

DATE=$(date +%F)
mkdir -p $RESTOREDIR/$DATE

for HOST in $HOSTS
do
# find the last full backup
NUMBER=$(grep full $HOSTSDIR/$HOST/backups| tail -1 | cut -f1)

if [ "$NUMBER" ]
then

# do the backup for the host
$BACKUPPCDIR/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost 
$BACKUPPCDIR/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate /usr/bin/split /usr/bin/par2 \
 "$HOST" "$NUMBER" /usr/bin/gzip .gz 000 
$RESTOREDIR/$DATE 0 \*
fi

done


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[BackupPC-users] Seg fault

2006-11-10 Thread Jason Hughes
Using 2.1.2pl2:

I recently switched from using rsync (because it was getting a few 
hundred megs into a backup then giving me an (Unable to read 4 bytes) 
error, and not even keeping a partial), to using rsyncd.  I got this 
working right earlier today and kicked off a manual full backup, ie.  
BackupPC -v -f client1.  It ran for a little while, downloaded some 
files, then gave a Segmentation Fault.  Here's the tail end of it:
...
  create   644   0/07272 boot/grub/ufs2_stage1_5
  create   644   0/06612 boot/grub/vstafs_stage1_5
  create   644   0/09308 boot/grub/xfs_stage1_5
Segmentation fault

I re-ran it a couple of times and got a segfault in this place twice, 
once in a different place further on.  I tried running BackupPC_dump in 
the perl debugger and it seemed to run quite a ways until it just locked up.

For what it's worth, to deal with BackupPC, my server and clients have 
all been upgraded to the newest Perl modules and newest rsync.  There 
was no error in the rsync.log, just "building file list".

Any suggestions how to proceed?  I've basically never gotten any of my 
linux boxes to get through one backup in over a month, and it's very 
frustrating due to the lack of debugging aids, and that files have been 
transferring, but no partials are even registered, so it has to start 
over each time.

Thanks,
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[BackupPC-users] tar versus rsync on internal network

2006-11-10 Thread James Ward
Hi,

I have ~160 servers connected on a high speed internal network which  
I use to do backups.  Additionally I have ~50 remote servers which I  
back up over the external network.  It's taking  about a week to make  
the rounds of all the systems.  Would it make more sense to use tar  
on the internal network backups in hopes of speeding things up?

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[BackupPC-users] odd 3.0.0 messages

2006-11-10 Thread David Relson
The following messages are in my BackupPC log:

2006-11-10 03:58:39 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
2006-11-10 03:58:39 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
2006-11-10 03:58:39 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
2006-11-10 03:58:40 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
2006-11-10 03:58:40 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!

What do they mean?

Thanks.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] odd 3.0.0 messages

2006-11-10 Thread Craig Barratt
David writes:

> The following messages are in my BackupPC log:
> 
> 2006-11-10 03:58:39 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
> 2006-11-10 03:58:39 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
> 2006-11-10 03:58:39 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
> 2006-11-10 03:58:40 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
> 2006-11-10 03:58:40 Botch on admin job for  admin : already in use!!
> 
> What do they mean?

Strange.  It means that it is trying to start anotherly nightly admin
job while the previous one is still running.  Is BackupPC_nightly taking
24 hours to run?

Can you email me off-list the last two days (today and yesterday) of
LOG files?

Craig

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Seg fault

2006-11-10 Thread Craig Barratt
Jason writes:

> Using 2.1.2pl2:
> 
> I recently switched from using rsync (because it was getting a few 
> hundred megs into a backup then giving me an (Unable to read 4 bytes) 
> error, and not even keeping a partial), to using rsyncd.  I got this 
> working right earlier today and kicked off a manual full backup, ie.  
> BackupPC -v -f client1.  It ran for a little while, downloaded some 
> files, then gave a Segmentation Fault.  Here's the tail end of it:
> ...
>   create   644   0/07272 boot/grub/ufs2_stage1_5
>   create   644   0/06612 boot/grub/vstafs_stage1_5
>   create   644   0/09308 boot/grub/xfs_stage1_5
> Segmentation fault
> 
> I re-ran it a couple of times and got a segfault in this place twice, 
> once in a different place further on.  I tried running BackupPC_dump in 
> the perl debugger and it seemed to run quite a ways until it just locked up.
> 
> For what it's worth, to deal with BackupPC, my server and clients have 
> all been upgraded to the newest Perl modules and newest rsync.  There 
> was no error in the rsync.log, just "building file list".
> 
> Any suggestions how to proceed?  I've basically never gotten any of my 
> linux boxes to get through one backup in over a month, and it's very 
> frustrating due to the lack of debugging aids, and that files have been 
> transferring, but no partials are even registered, so it has to start 
> over each time.

This is probably fixed in a new release of File-RsyncP-0.66.  I haven't
released it yet, but I'll email it to you off-list.

Craig

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[BackupPC-users] Restore to external device

2006-11-10 Thread Kyle Schneider
A colleague of mine has started using BackupPC on one of his servers.
He is required to make a backup of the systems once a week on DVD as
well.  What he would like to be able to do is have BackupPC restore
the files to a separate partition (preferably as a tar archive) so
that he can automate this process for his coworkers.

Is this possible with BackupPC or should I tell him he'd be better off
simply writing a script on the server he's backing up to create the
tarball and put it on his backup server?

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