Re: [BackupPC-users] GUI error after upgrade

2007-02-14 Thread Tony Molloy
On Wednesday 14 February 2007, Jim McNamara wrote:

snip

 If any additional info or configs would make this easier to diagnose,
 please let me know.

 Thanks,
 Jim

Did you restart both backuppc and httpd after the upgrade. Not restarting 
http will cause problems with the cgi-scripts.

Tony 


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Re: [BackupPC-users] GUI error after upgrade

2007-02-14 Thread Ludovic Drolez
Jim McNamara jim.mcnamara at gmail.com writes:

 
 Hello list!
 
 My thanks again go out to Craig for a great piece of software!
 
 I have been running BackupPC 2.1.1 on a debian box, installed by the
 apt-get package system. Tonight I upgraded by compiling 3.0.0, and

Good news: I've uploaded backuppc 3.0.0 to debian unstable yesterday.

Your feedback is welcome !

Cheers,

  Ludovic Drolez.




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[BackupPC-users] out of disk space - big oops

2007-02-14 Thread Troy Piggins
By default my backuppc is backing up to
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/localhost for example.  I back up only 2
machines - localhost (Ubuntu linux) via tar and a WindowsXP via smb.

All was going well until I added some dirs from the Windows
machine, the backup jumped to about 40Gb and has filled the disk.

I only have 1.5Mb free space on drive /var is mounted on.  Unless
you've done this before, you have no idea how hard it is to do
things with no spare space.

As I type this I am 
'cp -a /var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows /mnt/hda4' to get windows off
to another partition.  Then I'll 'sudo rm -rf
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows' to free the space.

My questions:

- is there a better way to migrate in future?
- is there a way to tell backuppc to store backups somewhere
  else?  or should I just mount another partition to
  /var/lib/backuppc/pc or similar?

Any recommendations?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] out of disk space - big oops

2007-02-14 Thread Bradley Alexander
My suggestion, in the future, would be to consider creating the partition under 
Linux Logical Volume Manager (LVM). What LVM does is to create a pool of small 
chunks of the hard drive (extents) that can be added and removed from a given 
filesystem. In the case of additions, in many cases (such as with ReiserFS), 
this can be done on the fly.

For instance, in my case. my backup partition is /var/lib/backuppc, the 
physical (LVM) partition is /dev/vg00/backup. For me to extend the partition 
by 40GB would require the following two commands:

lvextend -L+40G /dev/vg00/backup
resize_reiserfs /dev/vg00/backup

Since the partition doesn't have to be unmounted, activity on the partition is 
not affected by these commands. I have a PVR on my workstation, and was 
recording a movie once, and had to extend the partition. It did not affect 
recording.

HTH,
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Subject: [BackupPC-users] out of disk space - big oops

By default my backuppc is backing up to
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/localhost for example.  I back up only 2
machines - localhost (Ubuntu linux) via tar and a WindowsXP via smb.

All was going well until I added some dirs from the Windows
machine, the backup jumped to about 40Gb and has filled the disk.

I only have 1.5Mb free space on drive /var is mounted on.  Unless
you've done this before, you have no idea how hard it is to do
things with no spare space.

As I type this I am 
'cp -a /var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows /mnt/hda4' to get windows off
to another partition.  Then I'll 'sudo rm -rf
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows' to free the space.

My questions:

- is there a better way to migrate in future?
- is there a way to tell backuppc to store backups somewhere
  else?  or should I just mount another partition to
  /var/lib/backuppc/pc or similar?

Any recommendations?

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[BackupPC-users] Backup from a debian etch

2007-02-14 Thread Bruno Sampayo

Hello list,

I tried to make backup with backuppc on debian sarge, and the 
server client is a Debian etch kernel: 2.6.8-2-386.
When I start the full backuppc for this machine, I got a error with 
the follow message:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_dump 
-f portal
started full dump, share=/
xferPids 7258
xferPids 7258,7259


dump failed: aborted by signal=ALRM
link portal



Could someone help me?

Thanks for help.

Best resgast,
Bruno Sampayo

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup from a debian etch

2007-02-14 Thread Ralf Gross
Bruno Sampayo schrieb:
 
 I tried to make backup with backuppc on debian sarge, and the 
 server client is a Debian etch kernel: 2.6.8-2-386.
 When I start the full backuppc for this machine, I got a error with 
 the follow message:
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_dump 
 -f portal
 started full dump, share=/
 xferPids 7258
 xferPids 7258,7259
 
 
 dump failed: aborted by signal=ALRM
 link portal

Are you using tar as transfer method? There has been a change in tar
1.16 that reports a failure if a file changed during backup. etch is
using tar 1.16. If this is your problem, try tar 1.15.1 or a recent
backuppc version where this problem is fixed.

Ralf

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Re: [BackupPC-users] out of disk space - big oops

2007-02-14 Thread Les Mikesell
Troy Piggins wrote:
 By default my backuppc is backing up to
 /var/lib/backuppc/pc/localhost for example.  I back up only 2
 machines - localhost (Ubuntu linux) via tar and a WindowsXP via smb.
 
 All was going well until I added some dirs from the Windows
 machine, the backup jumped to about 40Gb and has filled the disk.
 
 I only have 1.5Mb free space on drive /var is mounted on.  Unless
 you've done this before, you have no idea how hard it is to do
 things with no spare space.
 
 As I type this I am 
 'cp -a /var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows /mnt/hda4' to get windows off
 to another partition.  Then I'll 'sudo rm -rf
 /var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows' to free the space.
 
 My questions:
 
 - is there a better way to migrate in future?
 - is there a way to tell backuppc to store backups somewhere
   else?  or should I just mount another partition to
   /var/lib/backuppc/pc or similar?
 
 Any recommendations?

The pool/cpool directory and the pc directory must be on the same 
filesystem in order for the hardlinks to work.  The only way you can add 
extra drives is if you are using LVM or a similar system that allows 
mapping multiple drives underneath a single filesystem that can grow,
and then any single drive failure will lose data.

I'd recommend copying what you have in /var/lib/backuppc to a much 
larger drive or raid (which may take a long time to reconstruct the 
hardlinks), then mount it or symlink the mount point into 
/var/lib/backuppc.   Or keep what you have for emergencies and start 
over with a new setup on a larger drive.  Depending on how much you need 
those old backups and how long it will take to get new runs, they may 
not be worth the time it takes to copy them.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc 3: ARRAY(0x...) in the level column

2007-02-14 Thread Craig Barratt
Ludovic writes:

  Ludovic writes:
  
  
 I've upgraded from 2.1 to 3.0 and I have the following problem: Incremental
 backups are not correctly displayed on the backup summary page.
 
 For example I get in the 1st summary table:
 
  Backup# TypeFilled  Level   Start Date  
 Duration/minsAge/daysServer Backup Path
 ...
 ...
 1365 incrno  ARRAY(0x87993cc)2/13 11:10  6.6
  0.0 
 /var/lib/backuppc/pc/xiii/1365
 
 In the /var/lib/backuppc/pc/xiii/backups file, the same ARRAY(0x...) can be
 found on the last column.
  
  
  Oh dear.  What is your $Conf{IncrLevels} set to?
  
  Craig
  
 
 To nothing :-( ...
 
 I was also checking if the 2.1 config.pl worked with BackupPC 3.0 :-)
 
 Is there a list a new mandatory parameters available somewhere ?

There isn't a list of new parameters, but you could diff the
config.pl templates in the 3.0.0 and 2.1.3 distributions.

BackupPC assumes the config file came from a valid installation,
and doesn't automatically default many of the parameters.

I'm copying the list again.

In the meantime I recommend you edit your backups file to replace
the ARRAY(0x87993cc) with 1 (the incremental level).

Craig

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Re: [BackupPC-users] GUI error after upgrade

2007-02-14 Thread Craig Barratt
Ludovic writes:

 Good news: I've uploaded backuppc 3.0.0 to debian unstable yesterday.
 
 Your feedback is welcome !

Thanks for doing this.  Your previous 2.x debian package has
been very popular.

I do have a question: for your 2.x package you hardcoded the
config paths.  In 3.x the FHS mode places the config files in
places similar to your 2.x package - but not exactly the same.

That's why people that started with your 2.x debian package
and then upgraded using the vanilla tarball are having problems.

What paths did you use for the 3.x package, and will it do the
right thing when a user upgrades from the debian 2.x to the
debian 3.x package?

Craig

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Re: [BackupPC-users] out of disk space - big oops

2007-02-14 Thread Troy Piggins
* Les Mikesell is quoted  my replies are inline below :
 Troy Piggins wrote:
  By default my backuppc is backing up to
  /var/lib/backuppc/pc/localhost for example.  I back up only 2
  machines - localhost (Ubuntu linux) via tar and a WindowsXP via smb.
  
  All was going well until I added some dirs from the Windows
  machine, the backup jumped to about 40Gb and has filled the disk.
  
  I only have 1.5Mb free space on drive /var is mounted on.  Unless
  you've done this before, you have no idea how hard it is to do
  things with no spare space.
  
  As I type this I am 
  'cp -a /var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows /mnt/hda4' to get windows off
  to another partition.  Then I'll 'sudo rm -rf
  /var/lib/backuppc/pc/windows' to free the space.
  
  My questions:
  
  - is there a better way to migrate in future?
  - is there a way to tell backuppc to store backups somewhere
else?  or should I just mount another partition to
/var/lib/backuppc/pc or similar?
  
  Any recommendations?
 
 The pool/cpool directory and the pc directory must be on the same 
 filesystem in order for the hardlinks to work.  The only way you can add 

Aah, I'd been reading about the hardlinks and wasn't sure to what
extent they were relevant.  As I said, I moved the .../pc dir,
but didn't move the .../pool or .../cpool dirs.

 extra drives is if you are using LVM or a similar system that allows 
 mapping multiple drives underneath a single filesystem that can grow,
 and then any single drive failure will lose data.
 
 I'd recommend copying what you have in /var/lib/backuppc to a much 
 larger drive or raid (which may take a long time to reconstruct the 
 hardlinks), then mount it or symlink the mount point into 
 /var/lib/backuppc.   Or keep what you have for emergencies and start 
 over with a new setup on a larger drive.  Depending on how much you need 
 those old backups and how long it will take to get new runs, they may 
 not be worth the time it takes to copy them.

I think I'll do the latter - add new drive and start again.

Thanks.

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[BackupPC-users] File system om backup drive?

2007-02-14 Thread Magnus Larsson
Hi!

I am trying to use an USB harddisk to store the backups (pool). This is 
a Western Digital drive, and I am having problems formatting it to ext3. 
So: is it possible to have the pool  as a FAT32-system? It seems from 
the documentation that is ought to be ext3 or reiserfs, but what are the 
limit of choice really here?

Also, anyone recognizes the problems of formatting an USB drive? I use 
Ubuntu Edgy or (on the server it is to run) Debian Sarge, with fairly 
new hardware.

Regards,


Magnus L

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Re: [BackupPC-users] GUI error after upgrade

2007-02-14 Thread Craig Barratt
Ludovic writes:

 Craig Barratt wrote:
  I do have a question: for your 2.x package you hardcoded the
  config paths.  In 3.x the FHS mode places the config files in
  places similar to your 2.x package - but not exactly the same.
  
  That's why people that started with your 2.x debian package
  and then upgraded using the vanilla tarball are having problems.
  
  What paths did you use for the 3.x package, and will it do the
  right thing when a user upgrades from the debian 2.x to the
  debian 3.x package?
 
 With my last upload, the paths are the same used for the 2.x package,
 to make the Debian upgrade very easy. But I'm open to any suggestions:
 which paths do you think I should use ?

That's fine with me.  So long as it is easy for you - I want
to minize (or eliminate) any code changes you need to make,
so that people can configure the vanilla install in a manner
that makes it the same as the package.

Craig

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Re: [BackupPC-users] File system om backup drive?

2007-02-14 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)

Magnus Larsson wrote:

I am trying to use an USB harddisk to store the backups (pool).  
This is
a Western Digital drive, and I am having problems formatting it to  
ext3.

So: is it possible to have the pool  as a FAT32-system? It seems from
the documentation that is ought to be ext3 or reiserfs, but what  
are the

limit of choice really here?


You need a filesystem that supports hardlinks, so FAT32 is not going  
to work.



Also, anyone recognizes the problems of formatting an USB drive? I use
Ubuntu Edgy or (on the server it is to run) Debian Sarge, with fairly
new hardware.


No, what problem are you having?

Nils Breunese.


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