Re: [Bacula-users] DVD backup
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:58:42 +0200, Matija Nalis mnalis+bac...@carnet.hr said: MN Of course, there are disadvantages too, especially if HDD is MN connected all the time. Yep. But if you're gonna go the paranoid route you also need to consider fire and should be mailing your tapes/dvds/hard-drives to an offsite backup location as well. It's all about the trade-offs I agree. The good news is that in 20 years of unix work I've yet to type rm -rf /. MN You may alleviate some of the issues by buying stack od external HDDs MN and rotating them on/off-site, but that will again lose you the MN convenience (and gets more pricey). I actually think there is a way to do a write-once mode to a HDD if you like too, but I can't remember where I saw that operation before. If nothing else, use dd and the right starting block number and treat it the same way you would a tape or DVD (IE, no real file system). MN The main problem with DVDs however remains -- they are just too small MN and too slow nowdays for anything but small sites... Don't forget fragile and subject to aging. But they do fit in a fire-safe nicely! -- Wes Hardaker My Pictures: http://capturedonearth.com/ My Thoughts: http://pontifications.hardakers.net/ -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Is that ok using Bacula to write on DVDs?
On Wed, 06 May 2009 12:16:49 -0600, alexan...@nautae.eti.br said: DVDs are likely less reliable than any form of external disk. a Are you sure about that? a I'm not using DVD-RW, just DVD-R. Ah, I didn't realize that. I had been assuming that you were rewriting existing disks. DVD-R's are much better for longevity (I believe) than DVD-RWs. That being said, the recently shown life expectancy of a DVD-R is somewhere on the order of 5 years. [Though I don't know what percentage of failure they're using to define that timing mark] You might consider re-reading the disk, at least, immediately after burning and comparing the checksum of the volume to the checksum written to the disk to ensure their the same. That'd provide a lot more confidence. a DVDs are made to mass data distribution. USB data sticks are made just a to move data from a place to another. Well, I was assuming a hard drive and not a USB stick. In theory, I'd actually trust solid state drives better (like USB drives) more than disks or DVDs because there are less moving parts. -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Is that ok using Bacula to write on DVDs?
On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:15:39 -0600, alexan...@nautae.eti.br said: a Ok, I gave up of doing DVD writing by Bacula. FYI, I've been doing it for 2 years or so; once it was up and running it works fairly well. I do save the parts to a separate folder after writing them to the DVD just to make sure, but most of the time they just get deleted. Occasionally an older disk will fail to burn properly and I either need to hard-burn the parts (again) to the disk or simply mark the disk as bad in the pool and let bacula recover based on that knowledge. a I'm not confident about using removable usb disk because it's not a a safe made media. Of course DVD too, but I think DVDs are more reliable a than usb disk, there isn't electricity to read the data. DVDs are likely less reliable than any form of external disk. That being said, external disks are still more than a stack of DVDs. Eventually you'll spend as much as an external disk though. DVDs don't handle writing to them a huge number of times, so eventually they go bad and need to be thrown away (eventually just from scratches, no matter *how* careful I try to be). The biggest problem in my book is that I don't want the external disk spinning while I'm awake for noise reasons; I'd need a power-up/down before/after the backup. -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula-usersForcing DVD write speed
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:15:39 -0600, Devin Reade g...@gno.org said: DR Am I correct that the only way to add 'speed=1' to the growisofs DR command is to modify the dvd-handler script? Yep. The script has lots of hard coded values. I also recommend using -dvd-compat as long as you're modifying it. (I've had to use nothing beyond 2.0.X as well) -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] dvd problems
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:13:26 +0100, Bruno Friedmann br...@ioda-net.ch s aid: BF I remember some message about broken code in 2.4 (Not tested as it BF should have been) And some works on the 2.5 (next 3.0 have been made BF ) BF Before you downgrade to the 2.0, perharps you could find a way as BF you have the specs in place, to give a try to 2.5 and so help all BF the project to keep the feature up to date and running without this BF annoying bugs. Well, I compiled 2.5 (from a tar-ball, not from the code repository) and installed it and just ran a few backup tests to DVD media. The first incremental I ran wrote two partitions to the disk and ended just fine. The second (a full) however, failed to write the DVD due to the typical problem I've been seeing: JobId 3757: Volume BaculaDVDTwo0140 previously written, moving to end of data . JobId 3757: Error: Bacula cannot write on DVD Volume BaculaDVDTwo0140 because : The sizes do not match! Volume=1125393071 Catalog=286543567 JobId 3757: Marking Volume BaculaDVDTwo0140 in Error in Catalog. JobId 3757: Please mount Volume BaculaDVDTwo0124 or label Note... The Volume size is correct, not the catalog. IE, the DVD writing process has succeeded just fine and the two parts from the first backup job are on the disk and are the right size (I know because I lightly hacked the dvd-handler to keep the older ones around for a bit). The catalog, however, seems to have the wrong notion of what the proper size should be. The question is why??? -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] dvd problems
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:44:41 +0200, Jari Fredriksson ja...@iki.fi said: JF I suggest you download 2.0.2 from Sourceforge and use that. Backup JF Restore both works with it, but I have no idea about Recycle. I have JF 100 DVD+RW discs, and I'm now writing to #30. Takes some time until JF all 100 is full... I've run DVD backups on a 2.0.X system for 2+ years without any troubles (once I patched dvd-handler as noted in previous messages; the patch idea was never adopted into the main line code for some reason even though it's a trivial change). I've since upgraded to 2.4 and DVDs get written just fine still, but the catalog system somehow gets confused about the archive size. It frequently marks the disk as bad because the catalog size of the volume doesn't match the real size. Looking at the previous writes, the disk is actually correct but bacula is not. Go figure. I'll probably downgrade to 2.0 again as there is no reason why DVDs can't work (they work just fine) and there is no reason why they shouldn't be supported. I suspect there is even enough people interested and willing to help out, judging by recent mailings, but for some reason the support is going to be dropped instead??? -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula-usersMoving from Tape to DVD
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:50:30 +0200, Jari Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: JF Ok, a happy camper! Well, yes. But I've taken some preventative measures too. I also have modified the script to copy all the spooled files to a different directory so that I can verify they all made it to the DVD before deleting them. It was frequently a problem *until* I added the dvd-compat flag that bacula would write the DVD but the file wouldn't be on it. Especially if they were small. JF Which version of Bacula you are using? I'm currently using an older one (2.0.3). I need to upgrade at some point soon.. JF I think -dvd-compat fixes some dvd writing issues, but I have no JF problems there. DVD will be written fine, but the problems are in JF catalog updating and using recucled volumes. I saw your notes but couldn't interpret anything from them to help ya, so I didn't respond... -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula-usersMoving from Tape to DVD
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:14:29 +0200, Jari Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: JF Now wondering best practises with DVD backups. The biggest one for me was adding -dvd-compat to the self.growparams settings in /etc/bacula/dvd-handler (near line 112) -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula-usersway too large incremental backup...
SP == Sebastian Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SP 2) Is there a way to show the list of files being saved from a job/client ? Within bconsole, you can use list files jobid=NNN where NNN is the jobid that last ran. I wouldn't think that rsynced files would be a problem, at least if you weren't doing anything odd. -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems with Bacula
DL == Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its still not working correctly. DL You are unique. I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself wow, bacula is really cool; but why isn't it doing that? The configuration is complex to set up (but with flexibility always comes complexity; and bacula is very flexible). Fortunately there are many good resources to look at, but sorting through them all to find what you want is sometimes difficult. Personally, I've been using it for 2 months. On day one I got it up and running and backing up multiple computers (windows and linux both). But, I've still had issues with it backing up files I didn't want it to (no doubt my fault), failing to write DVDs properly (questionable fault, but I think I've fixed that through a patch to the dvd-handler), failing to recycle volumes that I believe it should (no doubt my fault). But even after all that, the flexibility is very necessary for me and I'm going to keep plugging away at it (just yesterday I had to re-learn that volume longevity for previously created volumes is in the DB, not relearned from a modified config. Which makes sense, but when you're editing the config it's easy to forget). So, let me say: thanks to all the developers of bacula. I know what it's like to run an OSS project and get yelled at (I've started a number at this point). Realize that the vast majority of your users are very happy with your work (myself included). Kudos to you all for your time and even more importantly: your patience in helping us through problems. Outstanding support! One thing that I did with one of my more successful projects was to think of ways to reduce the confusion based on the questions sent to the mailing list. When I got a ton of questions in area X, I decided that area X needed usability improvements. My thinking about it always resulted in less questions about X in the future, which was a plus. Something to consider (or ignore) at will... Now, the down side is that the questions didn't stop. They just got harder. If you remove the easier-to-understand problems users start asking questions about the harder areas of a project because they get farther ;-) Final word: I love bacula and wouldn't switch away from it if I had a choice. But I'm still on the learning curve, and it isn't small. But very very worth it. Thanks again! -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula-usersDVD+RW overwrites
HM == Hydro Meteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HM For those in Bacula DVD userland who are using DVD+RWs, it strikes me as if HM 1,000 overwrites is really not all that bad. I do use DVD+RW to back up important parts of my server (and it uses a disk cache for anything not on it). I've learned a few things during using this process. For one thing, the default dvd-handler doesn't turn on the -dvd-compat flag which was causing me problems with a part not getting written and then later readable. I'm not entirely sure what it does, but I turned it on a week or two ago and suddenly my backups are much more reliable. (I've been meaning to post here with the experience, but I was waiting to make sure it made a difference. I'm positive it has at this point though I don't feel comfortable yet it's completely solved it) In dvd-handler line 112 add the flag to the list of default flags: self.growparams = -dvd-compat -A 'Bacula Data' -input-charset=default -i so-level 3 -pad + \ -p 'dvd-handler / growisofs' -sysid 'BACULADATA' -R -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] missing part on a DVD... why? what to do?
AL == Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AL As of now, Bacula does not check for these condition, it only takes AL the date and time of the last succesful job for a given client/fileset AL combination and saves files with a timestamp after that moment. AL Or, in short, your proposed solution will not work. Ah. Well, thanks for the notes. That does mean, though, that I can invalidate the job that created the broken volume so the next incremental would effectively back up from the one previous to it? (though this doesn't work if another incremental had run since then; IE, you'd have to nuke the last job before the next incremental gets run or nuke all jobs after the broken one). AL All IMO and without actually reading the code, by the way. As I mentioned; same here ;-) -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] missing part on a DVD... why? what to do?
AL == Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (first: thanks for the help!) 4) assuming that some of the archives are bad, what's the best way to fix the issue? Can I mark the volume as Error and will bacula automatically re-archive the files that were in that volume again on the next run through the various backup schedules? (the brunt of the question is really: do files get re-backed up automatically when a volume is marked in error, or does something else need to be done). AL That won't work. It will be best to check which jobs have their data AL on the disks in question (using the 'query' command) and manually AL re-run any jobs you need. That won't work if it's an incremental backup, right? Because re-running it will take an incremental from the last one. 5) Should I give up and buy a tape drive (ha ha; sigh) AL Seriously, in my opinion that would be the best thing to do... even AL using a used DLT or LTO drive will probably be more reliable than DVD AL backup, and tape backups, in my experience, require much less AL administration than DVD ones, so the extra money you spend will result AL in less time to operate Bacula in the future. Sigh... You're right, of course, but I was trying to do this without a cost-outlay since I have a DVD writer already ;-) IE, cheap but functional at-home backup solution. Hmm... I wonder if rewriting the DVD backend to write to a ISO mounted in loopback and then burn the iso would be more reliable. It'd take more scratch disk space, but wouldn't suffer from problems like this. It'd also be a lot slower since you'd have to reburn the whole disk when you added a part to the ISO. -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] missing part on a DVD... why? what to do?
AL == Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AL That might be one option, but I guess the main problem is that Bacula AL simply doesn't handle things very well when the writing-to-disk phase AL has problems. You'd need something more integrated into the SD, or AL implement some way to signal re-try this part to the next disk to AL the SD. I have a hard time believing there is no way to say whoops, I accidentally lost volume 5 in a fire Please continue as if it doesn't exist and all the files that were on it should no longer exist in the catalog. That's really what I need at the moment (I know which volumes are bad). Trying to guess at how the schema works (danger!) it looks like you might be able to look at the jobmedia table and use it to remove stuff for a broken volume from the Files table so it would get backed up next time and suddenly be needed again. But that's based on not reading any documentation on what the columns actually mean; but if someone says I'm on the right track I might go down that road :-) -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula-usersFedora 7 rpms
FS == Felix Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FS Thanks for your offer but Andreas Thienemann already completed that FS task: Bacula will be in Fedora 8 :-) Actually, it's now in both 7 and fc6 extras too! W00t! But, the one issue is that I don't think it can be used with DVD production since the necessary dvd+rw patch isn't in that spec, so you still need a local install of that. -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula-usersFedora 7 rpms
D == Dimitrios [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: D Are there any plans to create Fedora 7 rpms on one of the popular D fedora repositories, like Freshrpms.net, Livna, fedora extras, etc? I actually have a fedora rpm created for bacula for FC6 that I've been using (or not actually). I've considered sponsoring an RPM for the fedora tree (there is no extras in F7, it's just f7 and includes everything including contributed packages). But, I haven't gotten that far yet because I have other packages in the approval process now and was waiting to finish those first. And I was waiting to actually get bacula working for me with DVDs (or else maintaining the RPM won't really be worth it for me ;-). I can supply the current RPM and patches to anyone else that wants to take the task on though if anyone wants to do it instead. -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] missing part on a DVD... why? what to do?
I've just recently been playing with bacula (2.0.3 in self-compiled rpms on fedora)... I have it working with DVDs and the situation in question as I can tell went like this: - it was backing up the main system. - I believe it tried to store the information in: BaculaDVD0009.8. - However, the disc doesn't actually contain that part, but the log shows success: 12-Jun 23:05 machine-sd: Ready to append to end of Volume BaculaDVD0009 part=8 size=3040970041 12-Jun 23:05 machine-sd: Job write elapsed time = 00:00:04, Transfer rate = 57.92 K bytes/second 12-Jun 23:05 machine-sd: Part 8 (233000 bytes) written to DVD. So the questions I have that I can't seem to answer via manuals nor via bconsoles interface is: 1) what happened... I doubt anyone can answer this. the disc is not full yet and mounting it shows about 3G in use: /dev/hda 2972194 2972194 0 100% /mnt/cdrom and the missing part was very small: FD Bytes Written: 228,657 (228.6 KB) SD Bytes Written: 231,716 (231.7 KB) 2) what to do about it? Choices are, I think: 2a) invalidate the whole volume 2b) somehow tell bacula that just that part is missing and to rewrite just that part... I can't find anywhere that the part number is actually stored though. I did a quick search of even the DB tables and came up blank. I don't believe this is user-editable data (which is fine). 3) how do I prevent this in the future? Doubt anyone can answer this either, since it would require answering (1) above. (I turned on tracing on the sd to figure out this problem and it finally pointed out that the next backup was failing because it tried to mount the disc and couldn't find BaculaDVD0009.8... I didn't have tracing on during the failure time though unfortunately) -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] missing part on a DVD... why? what to do?
AL == Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AL It might be that the part file in question still is in your temporary AL storage directory. I should have mentioned that I looked there, and it's not there. AL Do you have Write Part After Job set in the job AL definition? Yep. (though it's in the JobDefs referral) the disc is not full yet and mounting it shows about 3G in use: /dev/hda 2972194 2972194 0 100% /mnt/cdrom and the missing part was very small: FD Bytes Written: 228,657 (228.6 KB) SD Bytes Written: 231,716 (231.7 KB) AL I did experience problems with small part files myself and think that, AL for (some) DVD writers, a session has to have certain minimum size. No AL hard facts, though, that's just what I observed quite a while ago. huh. that'd be odd. It should be easy to test too, cause 2 back-to-back incrementals should hit it. AL My workaround (or rather the one I implemented for my customer) was to AL set Write Part after Job to No for all jobs except the BackupCatalog AL one. Like this, All normal jobs would have a good chance to get written AL correctly, and only the Catalog backup was in danger of ending up corrupted. Interesting. I'll certainly think on that one. 2) what to do about it? Choices are, I think: 2a) invalidate the whole volume 2b) somehow tell bacula that just that part is missing and to rewrite just that part... AL Yes, look for the part file in the spooling directory you set up for the AL DVD storage device. Unfortunately, no go there... Thanks for the help. I'll see if I can duplicate the issue... -- In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find. -- Terry Pratchett - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
