Re: bbdb-print and utf8 bbdb file

2014-08-30 Thread Carson Chittom
Eric Abrahamsen  writes:

> I've never even gotten bbdb-print to work, it's always complained about
> undefined control sequences or something. The tex code is very old, and

I had this error trying to run the file through pdflatex, but it worked
fine with pdftex.




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Re: bbdb-print and utf8 bbdb file

2014-08-30 Thread Carson Chittom
die...@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes:

> my bbdb file is encoded in utf8 and when I try to print entries and
> converting the resulting bbdb.tex file, I'm getting weird characters in
> either the .dvi and .pdf file.  How would you deal with the situation?

How are you creating the PDF?  Have you tried using XeTeX?


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Re: help with starting bbdb3

2013-09-15 Thread Carson Chittom
Michael  writes:

> Is there a bbdb list for newbies on how to get started using bbdb or an IRC
> channel?

This would be the mailing list; there's not a separate one for newbies.
You could ask on #emacs on irc.freenode.net as well.

> I need a text email client for both unix type os and Windows and that has a
> good address database. Gnus seems hard to set up, so thot I would try Rmail
> and bbdb.

I have nothing bad to say against Rmail, but, for the record, a very basic
Gnus setup is merely setting gnus-select-method in ~/.gnus to one of the
backends.  So, for example to read the standard mbox file, you'd do

(setq gnus-select-method '(nnmbox ""))


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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Carson Chittom
Marc Croteau  writes:

> I know that this doesn't answer your question.  I guess I have to ask
> who all is keeping the bbdb.sourceforge.net site up to date?

My understanding, based on previous posts to this list is that *nobody*
is keeping the Sourceforge page up to date, since nobody has access to
it.


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Re: State of the art of Bi-directional sync for BBDB and other contact apps

2012-03-10 Thread Carson Chittom
"Sriram ET."  writes:

> Hi, I am trying to determine there is a recommended utility that does
> bi-directional sync between BBDB and any of the other popular contact apps
> like Outlook, Gmail, Apple Address Book, etc.?
>
> I see a number of export and import, which is typically uni-directional.
> Just checking what is out there, before I think of any heavy
> self-customization.

I've wanted this also for a while.  Unfortunately, from what I've seen
searching Google, what we want doesn't (yet) exist.  (Though I'd love to
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Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2011-12-11

2011-12-28 Thread Carson Chittom
Carson Chittom  writes:

> I'll spare you all the boring details, but essentially I'm having to
> recreate my ~/.emacs from scratch.  I checked out the most recent code
> from the Savannah repository today and followed the instructions in INSTALL
> and README as best I understood them.  This gave me:
>
> (require 'bbdb-loaddefs "~/.emacs.d/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-loaddefs.el")
> (bbdb-initialize)
> (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init)

Changing that last line to

(bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message)

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Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2011-12-11

2011-12-27 Thread Carson Chittom
I'll spare you all the boring details, but essentially I'm having to
recreate my ~/.emacs from scratch.  I checked out the most recent code
from the Savannah repository today and followed the instructions in INSTALL
and README as best I understood them.  This gave me:

(require 'bbdb-loaddefs "~/.emacs.d/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-loaddefs.el")
(bbdb-initialize)
(bbdb-mua-auto-update-init)

This did not do what I wanted:  automatically add or amend records in
~/.bbdb from Gnus articles.  So I went back to README and found

Binding [bbdb-mua-auto-update-p] to a function is often most
helpful for noninteractive use.  For example, you may want to
bind bbdb-mua-auto-update-p to the function bbdb-select-message,
see bbdb-accept-message-alist and bbdb-ignore-message-alist.  If
a message is accepted by bbdb-select-message, the actual action
performed by BBDB (i.e., the return value of
bbdb-select-message) is given by bbdb-mua-update-records-p.

And in fact, C-h v says that bbdb-mua-auto-update-p is bound to
bbdb-select message.  As far as I can tell, setting

(setq bbdb-mua-auto-update-p t)

has no effect, and neither does doing the same to
bbdb-mua-update-records-p.  Clearly, I am misunderstanding something or
Doing It Wrong.  Can somebody point me in the right direction?


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Re: Manual for BBDB 3

2011-11-20 Thread Carson Chittom
"Philipp Möller"  writes:

> I'm new to BBDB and confused by which manual to use for which version.
> I currently use BBDB version 3.02 ($Date: 2011/10/10 18:04:34 $) and it
> seems there is no info manual included and the only manual I could find
> is at: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html and I can't make out which
> parts of the manual are still up to date.

From interactions on this list, it appears that most-to-all of the old
manual is invalid for BBDB3.

> Is there an explicit manual for BBDB3 or is the old one still
> approriate?

As far as I'm aware there is no manual for BBDD3.  I'll be glad to help
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Re: stop bbdb from asking questions in gnus

2011-11-10 Thread Carson Chittom
Thorsten  writes:

> But I'm already quite annoyed about this default behaviour after a few
> hours of use, and would like to change it as fast as possible.
> Any other tips, how to disable bbdb constant asking 'do you want to add
> xyz to the database' while scrolling around in gnus?

I don't know if it still applies, but the old manual for 2.35 has the
following in section 1.7.3[1]:

  If the variable bbdb/mail-auto-create-p is set to the symbol
  bbdb-ignore-most-messages-hook, then the variable
  bbdb-ignore-most-messages-alist will determine which messages
  should  have records automatically created for them. The
  format of this alist is
 
(( HEADER-NAME . REGEXP ) . )

  for example,


(("From" . "@.*\\.maximegalon\\.edu")
 ("Subject" . "time travel"))

  will cause BBDB entries to be made only for messages sent by
  people at Maximegalon U., or (that's or) people posting about
  time 
  travel.

  There may be only one entry per header in this alist: that is,
  
(("From" . "addr1\\|addr2") . )

  is legal, but
   
(("From" . "addr1") ("From" . "addr2") . )

 is not. 

That looks to be what you want, I think.  But again, I don't know
whether it's still valid for version 3 (though I suppose you could tell
git to use the 2.35 code, since it was all imported?).

[1] http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html#SEC61
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Re: stop bbdb from asking questions in gnus

2011-11-10 Thread Carson Chittom
Thorsten  writes:

> Thanks for yours and for Johnny's replies - but why should I want you in
> my bbdb? I only want to read your posts here on the mailing list, there
> is not reason whatsoever to save personnal contact data. 

There's no reason to save it, but there's no reason not to save it
either (other than disk space, I guess, though a text file database
would have to work hard to fill a modern drive).  Think of it as the
Google approach:  aggregate everything, then when you need something,
search for it.  That's the way I use BBDB, anyway.


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Re: stop bbdb from asking questions in gnus

2011-11-10 Thread Carson Chittom
Thorsten  writes:

> I successfully installed bbdb 3 for the use with gnus. But the default
> behaviour might almost be considered a bug - the whole workflow in gnus
> is destroyed by bbdb constantly asking if I want to add some post or
> email author to the database. I almost never want to do that. 

My understanding is that this is BBDB working as intended.  It is, after
all, the Big Brother Database.  You have a file on *everybody*.

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Re: Locally install git version of bbdb 3

2011-11-09 Thread Carson Chittom
Thorsten  writes:

> Therefore I don't want to run the makefile that will install bbdb
> somewhere else. Isn't it just sufficient to just byte-compile all the
> .el files in the lisp folders and put a few lines (which ones?) in my
> .emacs, or are there more and other things going on under the hood when
> I run the makefile?

Running "make bbdb" byte-compiles the .el files and generates
bbdb-autoloads.el; running it in place works just fine.  (If you're using
VM, you'll also need to run "make vm".)  As to making it work, based on
an earlier thread on this list, I have the following in ~/.emacs (I use
Gnus, as will be obvious):

(require 'bbdb)
(require 'bbdb-autoloads)
(bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
(bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message)

I don't know whether all that is strictly necessary, but it works for me.

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Re: [PATCH] * README: Fix typo. Add hint for Emacs < 23 users.

2011-11-01 Thread Carson Chittom
"Roland Winkler"  writes:

> On Wed Oct 26 2011 Carson Chittom wrote:
>> bbdb.el:3735:1:Warning: the function `special-mode' is not known to be
>> defined.
>
> Thanks. This is probably the most significant problem for emacs < 23.
>
>> bbdb-com.el:2362:1:Warning: the following functions are not known to be
>> defined: use-region-p, ignore-errors
>
> This affects only commands that (I guess) are usually used less often.
>
>> bbdb-anniv.el:161:1:Warning: the following functions are not known to be
>> defined: calendar-extract-day, calendar-extract-month,
>> calendar-extract-year, string-match-p, diary-add-to-list
>
> This add-on for bbdb relies on new functions in Emacs 23.
>
>> bbdb-mua.el:1031:1:Warning: the function `special-mode' is not known to
>> be defined.
>
> Not a nice hack to solve this: You could try to load the code from
> emacs 23 defining special-mode. I don't know whether this might give
> rise to all kinds of new problems...
>
> Roland

I have just (today) upgraded to Emacs 23, so I'll just let this thread lie.

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[Carson Chittom] Re: [PATCH] * README: Fix typo. Add hint for Emacs < 23 users.

2011-10-26 Thread Carson Chittom
Accidentally replied just to Roland.  Sorry about that.

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"Roland Winkler"  writes:

> If you can post here a list of all warnings etc form the compiler,
> it could give us some idea which pieces of code are possibly not
> backward compatible.

Here's the output from "make bbdb" (for the record this is BSD make, but
GNU make does the same):

In end of data:
bbdb.el:3735:1:Warning: the function `special-mode' is not known to be
defined.
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb.elc

In end of data:
bbdb-com.el:2362:1:Warning: the following functions are not known to be
defined: use-region-p, ignore-errors
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-com.elc
Loading vc-git...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-anniv.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-anniv.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-com.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-com.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-gnus.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-gnus.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-message.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-message.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-mhe.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-migrate.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-migrate.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-mua.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-mua.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-print.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-print.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-rmail.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-rmail.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb-vm.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb-vm.el...done
Generating autoloads for bbdb.el...
Generating autoloads for bbdb.el...done
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-autoloads.el
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-print.elc

In bbdb-anniv-diary-entries:
bbdb-anniv.el:79:32:Warning: reference to free variable `number'

In end of data:
bbdb-anniv.el:161:1:Warning: the following functions are not known to be
defined: calendar-extract-day, calendar-extract-month,
calendar-extract-year, string-match-p, diary-add-to-list
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-anniv.elc
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-migrate.elc

In end of data:
bbdb-mua.el:1031:1:Warning: the function `special-mode' is not known to
be
defined.
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-mua.elc
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-message.elc
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-rmail.elc
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-gnus.elc
No MH variant found on the system
Wrote /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-mhe.elc

>> [1] bbdb-create works, gathering names and addresses from mail works
>> (with an error message sometimes, but still working), but displaying 
>> the results of a search doesn't work.
>
> Here I'd be worried that something could screw up the database
> itself which could be nasty to repair.

Speaking of (minor) database corruption I filed bug #34660[1] today.
Just to be clear, this bug isn't an Emacs 22 thing; I get the
same behavior on 23--I just forgot to mention it in the bug report.
I'll add a comment to the bug with version numbers as soon as I can (my
office blocks Savannah, so it'll have to wait until I get home).

[1] http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?34660

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Re: [PATCH] * README: Fix typo. Add hint for Emacs < 23 users.

2011-10-24 Thread Carson Chittom
Carson Chittom  writes:

> I understand your reticence, but my reasoning is thus:  BBDB3 works,

Er, I understand your *reluctance*.  You weren't reticent at all.  I
haven't my coffee yet this morning.


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Re: [PATCH] * README: Fix typo. Add hint for Emacs < 23 users.

2011-10-24 Thread Carson Chittom
"Roland Winkler"  writes:

> -- How did you run into this? Did you try to compile BBDB with an
> older version of GNU Emacs. I guess this might give you a longer
> list of compilation errors.

Yes, that's it exactly---I'm trying to use it with Emacs 22.  There were
some warnings during compilation, but nothing fatal.  I'll be glad to
document those, if you like.

> So I am hesitant to try to list these required features of GNU Emacs
> 23 in the README file.

I understand your reticence, but my reasoning is thus:  BBDB3 works,
sort of, with Emacs 22[1].  Every time so far I've gotten an error, it's
for Emacs to complain about not knowing what special-mode is; given
that, I thought it would be the logical place for someone wanting to get
things working on <=22 to start.  

If you don't want it in the README, maybe instead I should file a 
lowish-priority bug on Savannah?  (Are we using the Savannah bug
tracker?)  That way if anybody with more skills than I feels motivated,
it can get fixed.


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(with an error message sometimes, but still working), but displaying 
the results of a search doesn't work.

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[PATCH] * README: Fix typo. Add hint for Emacs < 23 users.

2011-10-22 Thread Carson Chittom
I'm not a programmer, so I can't help much, but here's a very small
contribution to the BBDB documentation.  I don't know anything about
git, much less its integration into Emacs and Gnus, so I just ran "git
format-patch -1," to generate what I've copy-and-pasted below.  If
there's a better way, please let me know!

---
 README |7 +--
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/README b/README
index 53497a7..85bac46 100644
--- a/README
+++ b/README
@@ -7,12 +7,15 @@ numbers and the like. It can be linked with various
Emacs mail
 clients (Message and Mail mode, Rmail, Gnus, MH-E, and VM).
 BBDB is fully customizable.

-BBDB is avaiable at
+BBDB is available at
 http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/bbdb/
 To check it out, use
 git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git

-This revised version of BBDB has been tested only with GNU Emacs 23.
+This revised version of BBDB has been tested only with GNU Emacs 23, and
+in particular uses the special mode special-mode, new for Emacs 23, in
+bbdb.el and bbdb-mua.el.
+
 Yet it might be not too difficult to adapt it to other recent
 dialects of emacs. It is unlikely, though, that you can get this
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Re: [PATCH] Better support for organisation-only records

2011-09-26 Thread Carson Chittom
"Roland Winkler"  writes:

> PS: Wait! You say you have dreams that cannot be coded in elisp??

I hear some folks get divide-by-zero errors.

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Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-14 Thread Carson Chittom
Roland Winkler  writes:

> So you also might want to check that your "hand-made"
> bbdb-autoloads.el contains an entry for bbdb-insinuate-gnus.

This was the error---or rather, bbdb-autoloads.el was messed up in a more
general way (my own fault; I just didn't read the Makefile correctly)
including this.  I fixed things by---not sure why I didn't just do this
in the first place---ssh'ing into a unix box and running "make bbdb"
there to generate bbdb-autoloads.el and then copying it over.

BBDB appears to work fine now.

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Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-13 Thread Carson Chittom
Antoine Levitt  writes:

> 13/09/11 15:27, Carson Chittom
>> -=-=-=-=-
>> (add-to-list 'load-path "C:/Documents and
>> Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp")
>> (require 'bbdb)
>> (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
>> (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
>> -=-=-=-=-
>
> That setup is obsolete, just remove
>
> (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)

Removing this line doesn't change anything; I get the same error.

> and it should be fine. If that helps, my setup is
>
> (require 'bbdb)
> (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
> (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message)

Adding the last line you have here gives me an error also.  Running
emacs --debug-init gives me 

-=-=-=-
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function bbdb-mua-auto-update-init)
  (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init (quote gnus) (quote message))
  eval-buffer(# nil "c:/Documents and 
Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs" nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 
578
  load-with-code-conversion("c:/Documents and Settings/carson/Application 
Data/.emacs" "c:/Documents and Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs" t t)
  load("~/.emacs" t t)
  #[nil "\205\264
-=-=-=-

I'm not sure what that means.  I'm going to try updating to the latest
in the git repository and see if that fixes things (when I started
trying to get this working this morning, I thought I had a fairly recent
checkout, but it actually seems to be from about a month ago).


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setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-13 Thread Carson Chittom
I hope this is the right list; there didn't seem to be a different one
listed on Savannah.  I should say that I'm fairly new to Emacs and Gnus,
and completely new to BBDB, so I don't have any experience with old BBDB
versions to guide me.

I'm trying to set up BBDB 3 to work with Gnus.  I'm using Emacs 23.3.1
on Windows XP.  I know the manual at http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html
is for version 2, but there doesn't seem to be anything newer.  Based on
this manual, I've added to ~/.emacs the following:

-=-=-=-=-
(add-to-list 'load-path "C:/Documents and Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp")
(require 'bbdb)
(bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
(add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
-=-=-=-=-

Since I don't have development tools on this computer, I've also created
manually the file bbdb-autoloads.el based on the Makefile:

-=-=-=-=-
(provide 'bbdb-autoloads)
(if
(and load-file-name
 (file-name-directory load-file-name))
(add-to-list 'load-path (file-name-directory load-file-name)))
-=-=-=-=-

However, when I do M-x gnus, I get the error "Symbol's function
definition is void: bbdb-insinuate-gnus" in the minibuffer.  Obviously,
I'm doing something wrong.  Can somebody point me in the right
direction?




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