Re: weird match
On Wed Oct 17 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: I don't know your personal extensions of BBDB. I have none. For almost all user variables from BBDB's MUA interface their values may be user-defined functions. You actually requested quite a few of these variables. Certainly, these functions can give rise to the behavior you observe. Roland -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: weird match
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-10-18 06:51:15 -0500]: On Wed Oct 17 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: I don't know your personal extensions of BBDB. I have none. For almost all user variables from BBDB's MUA interface their values may be user-defined functions. You actually requested quite a few of these variables. Certainly, these functions can give rise to the behavior you observe. Roland bbdb-add-mails == sds-bbdb-add-mails bbdb-add-name == sds-bbdb-add-name (defun sds-bbdb-add-name (rec name) Decide whether to change the record name. (let ((n1 (bbdb-record-firstname rec)) (nl (bbdb-record-lastname rec))) (cond ((and (null n1) (null nl)) t) ((or (string= n1 name) (string= nl name)) nil) (t 'query (defun sds-bbdb-add-mails (rec mail) Decide whether to add mail to the record. (let ((old (bbdb-record-note rec 'old-net))) (if (and old (member mail (split-string old , * t))) nil t))) what other variables could be relevant? -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://americancensorship.org http://memri.org http://camera.org http://www.PetitionOnline.com/tap12009/ http://truepeace.org Do the arithmetic or be doomed to talk nonsense. --John McCarthy -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: weird match
what other variables could be relevant? It will be much easier if you try to disable once all your customizations (emacs -q). Then it becomes clearer where things are going wrong. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: weird match
* Ben Sturmfels o...@fghzoyrf.vq.nh [2012-10-17 20:18:11 +1100]: The general approach to pin down any bug is to just progressively strip away everything that's not related. What's left is the reproducible recipe. I am fully aware of this brute force approach; I have used it myself many times and I have instructed others in it use many more times. :-) Alas, it requires a lot of work. It is _way_ easier for Roland to do what he did, i.e., tell me an easy way to reproduce the problem, since he knows the inner workings of bbdb and can tell off the top of his head which functionality is responsible. Now, if only he kept on and told me which function produces the bbdb record(s) which match Sam... -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://iris.org.il http://think-israel.org http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.PetitionOnline.com/tap12009/ Any supplier that makes enough to pay a full time lobbyist is overcharging. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
weird match
In gnus gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor summary, the message From: Sam [guest] gu...@bioconductor.org is marked as sent my a known user and *BBDB* shows Sam Robb mail: sam.r...@timesys.com, sam.r...@timesys.com why? -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://mideasttruth.com http://openvotingconsortium.org http://iris.org.il http://www.PetitionOnline.com/tap12009/ He who laughs last did not get the joke. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: weird match
On Tue Oct 16 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: In gnus gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor summary, the message From: Sam [guest] gu...@bioconductor.org is marked as sent my a known user and *BBDB* shows Sam Robb mail: sam.r...@timesys.com, sam.r...@timesys.com Do you have some reproducible recipe? By now, I've seen three or four such messages from you, where you complained about odd behavior of BBDB, but you never provided a reproducible recipe. Roland -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: weird match
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-10-16 16:34:44 -0500]: On Tue Oct 16 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: In gnus gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor summary, the message From: Sam [guest] gu...@bioconductor.org is marked as sent my a known user and *BBDB* shows Sam Robb mail: sam.r...@timesys.com, sam.r...@timesys.com Do you have some reproducible recipe? By now, I've seen three or four such messages from you, where you complained about odd behavior of BBDB, but you never provided a reproducible recipe. I understand your frustration, but what kind of reproducible recipe can I offer you? Give you my gmail password + my whole bbdb? :-) I thought that a combination of the From line and the bbdb record should suffice. If it is not, please tell me how to debug this: e.g., what functions are called to match the From line to a bbdb record. thanks! -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://dhimmi.com http://iris.org.il http://ffii.org http://palestinefacts.org http://memri.org http://openvotingconsortium.org If you need a helping hand, just remember that you already have two. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: weird match
On Tue Oct 16 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: In gnus gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor summary, the message From: Sam [guest] gu...@bioconductor.org is marked as sent my a known user and *BBDB* shows Sam Robb mail: sam.r...@timesys.com, sam.r...@timesys.com Do you have some reproducible recipe? By now, I've seen three or four such messages from you, where you complained about odd behavior of BBDB, but you never provided a reproducible recipe. I understand your frustration, but what kind of reproducible recipe can I offer you? Give you my gmail password + my whole bbdb? :-) I thought that a combination of the From line and the bbdb record should suffice. If it is not, please tell me how to debug this: e.g., what functions are called to match the From line to a bbdb record. I can merely say that I cannot reproduce this. Forget the gnus stuff. Put Sam [guest] gu...@bioconductor.org into the To: field of a message. Call bbdb-mua-display-recipients What do you get? If I setup this test, the [guest] in the name gets ignored (see mail-extract-address-components). So Sam becomes the last name of the above recipient. And this should not match the entry of Sam Robb. (It doesn't do that for me.) I don't know your personal extensions of BBDB. Roland -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: weird match
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-10-16 17:49:29 -0500]: Forget the gnus stuff. Put Sam [guest] gu...@bioconductor.org into the To: field of a message. Call bbdb-mua-display-recipients What do you get? If I setup this test, the [guest] in the name gets ignored (see mail-extract-address-components). So Sam becomes the last name of the above recipient. And this should not match the entry of Sam Robb. (It doesn't do that for me.) when I do that, I am asked whether gu...@bioconductor.org should be the principal address and it is added to Sam Robb and he is displayed. indeed: (mail-extract-address-components \Sam [guest]\ gu...@bioconductor.org) == (Sam gu...@bioconductor.org) however, I don't understand why Sam matches Sam Robb. I don't know your personal extensions of BBDB. I have none. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://iris.org.il http://truepeace.org http://memri.org http://www.memritv.org http://dhimmi.com http://jihadwatch.org People with a good taste are especially appreciated by cannibals. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
