Re: What is Magic?
Dear Hugh, At 09:19 PM 11/28/2002, you wrote: Dear Barry, I really appreciate your on-going tutelage concerning ORMUS. I will continue to post as I come across things that relate. I haven't gotten it together to collect any yet, though I probably do rather inadvertantly with some of my radionic/biodynamic techniques. But keep on schooling me. Sorry I was unable to attend your workshop in Waynesville. I'm sure that there will be more in the future. -- With kindest regards, Barry Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2319 Balm Baker City, Oregon 97814 Phone: 541-523-3357 Web Pages: Forest - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/bmnfa/index.htm ORMUS - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm "What you think upon grows. Whatever you allow to occupy your mind you magnify in your life. Whether the subject of your thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows. Any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use atrophies. The more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had, the more good fortune will come to you." --Emmet Fox
Re: Getting Worried
when we defend a wrong action how are we then able to stand for a right one? and why on earth is anyone taking sides?
Re: Getting Worried
Title: Re: Getting Worried
Allan you wrote:
What I can't help but be concerned about is that I posted a
phenomenal essay by Wendell Berry to this list last night but have
heard not a comment on it..
Jane posted: Sarah Ruth van Gelder interviews Vandana Shiva
Sarah: Let me wrap up with a personal question. Every time I¹ve heard you speak or met you, you¹ve had so much energy, not only intellectual energy, but personal or spiritual energy. I¹m just wondering, what keeps you so alive?
Vandana: Well, it¹s always a mystery, because you don¹t know why you get depleted or recharged. But, this much I know. I do not allow myself to be overcome by hopelessness, no matter how tough the situation. I believe that if you just do your little bit without thinking of the bigness of what you stand against, if you turn to the enlargement of your own capacities, just that in itself creates new potential.
And I¹ve learned from the Bhagavad Gita and other teachings of our culture to detach myself from the results of what I do, because those are not in my hands. The context is not in your control, but your commitment is yours to make, and you can make the deepest commitment with a total detachment about where it will take you. You want it to lead to a better world, and you shape your actions and take full responsibility for them, but then you have detachment. And that combination of deep passion and deep detachment allows me always to take on the next challenge because I don¹t cripple myself, I don¹t tie myself in knots. I function like a free being. I think getting that freedom is a social duty because I think we owe it to each other not to burden each other with prescription and demands. I think what we owe each other is a celebration of life and to replace fear and hopelessness with fearlessness and joy.
--
In Love & Light
(and thats the truth {] &*{() )
Markess
Re: Getting Worried
>>Allan, >> >>I doubt seriously that plaster of paris is going to simply dissolve in >>water once it is set. >> >>Hugh > >Oh, great, another problem. > >I'm going buy how the plaster has crumbled where it has gotten wet >when I've drug my toes in the snow, and so on. > >It'll really be great if I show up at the airport with a partially >removed cast. Allan, I don't know that much about casts. Probably by soaking and manipulation you can crumble it away. I just know when my sister broke her arm, and one of my school mates broke his arm in both cases the cast was cut off. I think a doctor would have some special scissor pliers--surgical steel--for this task. Have you asked the doctor to cut off the cast and put on a lighter one? That's something commonly done. Best, Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: getting worried
Hi Allan, Great advice here from Hugh, please listen as he's right on the money. What you don't take care of now may haunt you for a lifetime. I don't know how old you are, but at thirty-nine I broke my leg and badly wretched my ankle and it was during planting season. Had thousands of starts to plant and just couldn't do anything. I planted crawling on my hands and knees and needed help to stand, the pain was horrible and it would take months more to heal than it should have. Right now you have time to heal Allan.A friend got me to slow down and take the stuff already mentioned. Within a month I was back up and at it, but I took the time to take care of myself--something you need to do now. Need to mention here though, that by pushing myself at the wrong time, I pay the price now in discomfort at times when I need to push-something that could have been prevented had I taken the time at the time to let my body heal. Pat > >Allan, how long has it been since you've been in the cast, how long > >do the doctors think you need to be wearing it, and how fast do you > >think you're actually improving? (Remember, grumpiness is a sure > >sign of being on the mend ) > > > >If the doctors are saying 6 - 8 weeks and it's only been 3 then > >you're probably pushing it. Work with your doc and tell him your > >agenda. he may allow the cast to be removed if it's not all that > >early (by the time you're due to leave.) > > It's possible you or he could call ahead and arrange for someone > >from the hotel/facilities/airport to help you with baggage, > >transporting yourself, etc. Help may come from unexpected > >sources but you will probably have to ask for it. > >If the foot is really still that painful, it may be telling you that you > >shouldn't push it and try to travel until it's rested and healed. I don't > >know how involved you are with ACRES USA but you may have to > >delegate your jobs this year and sit this one out. > > > >If you saw the cast off yourself, be careful! They use a bone saw in > >the hospital. (I can see Allan now, chainsaw in hand !) > > Visit our website at: www.unionag.org >
Re: getting worried
>Allan, how long has it been since you've been in the cast, how long >do the doctors think you need to be wearing it, and how fast do you >think you're actually improving? (Remember, grumpiness is a sure >sign of being on the mend ) > >If the doctors are saying 6 - 8 weeks and it's only been 3 then >you're probably pushing it. Work with your doc and tell him your >agenda. he may allow the cast to be removed if it's not all that >early (by the time you're due to leave.) > It's possible you or he could call ahead and arrange for someone >from the hotel/facilities/airport to help you with baggage, >transporting yourself, etc. Help may come from unexpected >sources but you will probably have to ask for it. >If the foot is really still that painful, it may be telling you that you >shouldn't push it and try to travel until it's rested and healed. I don't >know how involved you are with ACRES USA but you may have to >delegate your jobs this year and sit this one out. > >If you saw the cast off yourself, be careful! They use a bone saw in >the hospital. (I can see Allan now, chainsaw in hand !) Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Getting Worried
Dear Friends - For those who didn't catch the comment earlier, probably because it was not explicit enough, this was a personal message, one that was not intended for the list. One that got sent to the list by accident. I thank those who offered assitance with my pediatory predicament. If you want to talk more about my foot off-line, I'm at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and would appreciate hearing from you. I have to admit I can't help but wonder about those who extend judgement when a situation real or misconstrued requires something more of them. The truly morally superior, of course, stop reading private mail at the point they realize it wasn't for them. What I can't help but be concerned about is that I posted a phenomenal essay by Wendell Berry to this list last night but have heard not a comment on it.. How about putting your positive energies into reading it and making comments about the relationship between industrialism and agrarianism? Otherwise, please realize that there are a lot of varities of lasagne and a lot that goes on both between and among the layers of lasagne, all of it's ok and just a matter of personal preference, personal choice or out-and-out accidents. Above all else, honor diversity and be thankful to Creation that everyone and everything isn't the same, or better yet, just like youor me. Enough said? Thanks -Allan
Re: Getting Worried
In a message dated 12/7/2002 6:57:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't imagine getting from my room to the hall on fucking crutches. Delightful implementation of language, friend. Not. Please assume more responsible gestures of articulation when in the company of the other-Us. I imagine are caused by walking in the friggin cast. What's the difference here? Is this a grammarian substitution for the same intention? I'd much prefer to come to this sacred place to share the riddles and fellowship of loving, concerned stewards of the planet without the debased vim of repugnant language infecting my spirit. Thank you for your contributions in many other realms and for being human. Caine Rose
Re: Getting Worried
Dear Allan: We all in sypathy with you, but we can not help much in your case. In any event, please be aware that we are forwarding our get-well wishes, along with violet healing light, prana and the whole jazz! Be well and happy, and, please, don't be impatient, let Nature do its job, Luis
getting worried
Allan, how long has it been since you've been in the cast, how long do the doctors think you need to be wearing it, and how fast do you think you're actually improving? (Remember, grumpiness is a sure sign of being on the mend ) If the doctors are saying 6 - 8 weeks and it's only been 3 then you're probably pushing it. Work with your doc and tell him your agenda. he may allow the cast to be removed if it's not all that early (by the time you're due to leave.) It's possible you or he could call ahead and arrange for someone from the hotel/facilities/airport to help you with baggage, transporting yourself, etc. Help may come from unexpected sources but you will probably have to ask for it. If the foot is really still that painful, it may be telling you that you shouldn't push it and try to travel until it's rested and healed. I don't know how involved you are with ACRES USA but you may have to delegate your jobs this year and sit this one out. If you saw the cast off yourself, be careful! They use a bone saw in the hospital. (I can see Allan now, chainsaw in hand !)
Re: Getting Worried
Hi Allan, Did you get the Tisue Mend I told you about? If nothing else it will get you up and attom a hell of lot quicker than not using it. I understand the itching and the irriatition you are experiencing, but you'll find your own attitude will reflect how much this stuff bothers you. And Allan, I'm not saying this to hurt your feelings or in any way negative, but you've got work to do and people that rely on you-heal thy self!!!) That doctor is doing what he knows works, he doesn't give a damm about you going to "Acres", so please don't take it out on him. He is looking after your "best" interest. Just remember this is from a friend that holds you in high esteem and wants to see you at your best. Pat
Re: Getting Worried
Title: Re: Getting Worried Allan, Excuse my asking but what are the gifts this change in your foot (ie the break) brought/bring you? What is the nature of the dis-ease you are exhibiting in these e-mails? The cosmos provides ya know. kristo writes for you today: Saturday 12/7/02 LUNA enters Aquarius at 11:54 AM CST -6GMT to end the long Void of Course, but there's nothing that's diminished in intensity except perhaps, the sense of feeling impoverished by circumstance. Whatever is weighing us down continues to intensify its influence...but the extra weight is meant to force us into droping any senseless burdens. Our responsibilities may be defined by others...but we have the right to choose whether or not to accept the commission. It's really a straightforward negotiation...and at times like this, freedom is not a luxury, but a necessity we can't afford to sell off. LUNA Squares Scorpio MARS (in his Coniunctio to VENUS) at 7:24 PM, and Squares VENUS at 10:13 PM. Sure there's a whole lotta stuff we want to accomplish...but the price we pay for certain accomplishments is not always reasonable. The sensible thing is to allow ourselves to respond to circumstance and choose the most bang for our buck. This isn't a time to hoard resources...but there's no need to waste them on stuff we really don't need. It's a good time to check under the hood of our most immediate desires. ---In Love & Light Markess From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 06:49:21 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Getting Worried Will - It will be 3 weeks mon since I broke my foot and 3 weeks Wed since I put a cast on it. I'd VERY MUCH like to not have a cast at ACRES, in fact, I can't imagine getting from my room to the hall on fucking crutches. On the other hand, my Dr ain't going to go for taking the cast off and I don't seem to be able to find a CAM BOOT that fits me. (It goes on) I'm thinking of soaking the cast off myself on Monday but I'm wondering if that's practical (will the plaster 'get hot' when it gets wet?) I'm also afraid that with the cast off I still won't be able to walk because of disuse and, suddenly, I can't get from the parking lot to the plane. These are the things I worry about. What do you think? (The foot, btw, feels great, except it has pains in places tht I imagine are caused by walking in the friggin cast. -Allan
Re: Getting Worried
Allan, I doubt seriously that plaster of paris is going to simply dissolve in water once it is set. Hugh Oh, great, another problem. I'm going buy how the plaster has crumbled where it has gotten wet when I've drug my toes in the snow, and so on. It'll really be great if I show up at the airport with a partially removed cast.
Re: Transplanting trees
I spent many years moving trees professionally, also planting. I found helpful for settling in new trees and also estblishing transplants this info. A tree, even if grown from seed in Nature may not have its proper orientation in the earth in regard to the group soul etheric and astral body of the tree. So, you may say, " In accordance to God's will and the Christ Jesus let this tree have its proper orientation in the ground for its best possible future growth". Dowsing is also a very helpful tool for this line of work or open up your receptivity and intuition and use instinct...sstorch Hugh Courtney taught me to dowse for the proper orientation of a transplanted tree and to say the prayer that Steve has quoted above after planting. (I say the prayer with the pendulum in hand.) My success with transplanting trees and shrubs has gone from very hit-and-miss to what's-the-worry. Plants grow much better when properly oriented. -Allan
Transplanting, my best answers
Dear Will, et. al., Yes the planting of trees, bushes, vines, etc. in the same north-south orientation is a key to good transplanting. Lorraine Cahill, who works with me, has also showed me the effectiveness of using homeopathics in the water used to "mud" the transplants in and give them a good reunion with the earth. She uses both rescue remedy and the Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut. This seems very successful even with transplanting such annuals as pepper, tomato and basil. We run our beds north-south so we know without thinking what that orientation is. Tiny seedlings no more than a foot tall tend to put their roots out to either side of the tap root, rather like an inverted, flat Christmas tree, so how do I determine from looking at the plant which way to orient the roots so their original orientation is preserved. Actually I haven't paid attention to that yet, so I will start looking more closely at this. Possibly the roots allign north-south to begin with. That would make their original orientation very easy to see and transplanting must proceed apace. Formerly I transplanted my summer crops without concern for this. It is true that some plants did poorly with no clear reason why, and some plants did outstandingly well. Since we don't hype them up on speed and steroids like the chemical growers who often seem to have a near uniform field all going at the same rate, I ought to be able to tell when I hit the nail on the head. I feel sure there is something to this from my experience transplanting trees and shrubs. Also there are nature spirits acting in union with plants. Call some of them elementals if you will. These are Salamanders (fire) and Sylphs (air) in the atmosphere, and Undines (water) and Gnomes (earth) in the soil. Plus there are more complex beings that associate themselves with certain trees or groups of trees, cultivars, crops, fields, special locations, homes and even people such as artists, craftsmen, surgeons, you name it. These seem to generally be beneficial, though that's not necessarily true. But the hidden world of unseen energies is far and away more highly organized and ordered than our science and culture currently acknowledges. We apprehend only a small segment of the spectrum with our five senses, and we have to learn to use our nervous system as the antenna it was designed to be if we are to tune in to these beings and the organization of things which we cannot see with our eyes but can only see with our mind's eye. Dowsing is one route to doing this, of course. It's pretty easy to dowse. To fast, pray and meditate requires a lot more discipline and dedication. And just read a biography of Rasputin. I think you'll see that the rules for attaining adept status are not necessarily what we may be told or may believe. Asceticism isn't key, though the discipline that usually goes along with it is. But what is discipline? Certainly it is not punishment or denial. It is something far more profound. Actually asceticism commonly involves judging others, rejection, pride, etc. all of which are hindrances. In any event to work with unseen forces so that their joyful, exuberant assistance is enlisted in the transplanting of something so important as a tree or a field of peppers or wheat might require paying a lot more attention to what is really going on beyond the visible, in-the-moment phenomena. One might start by dowsing, but some people just do this sort of thing intuitively and subconsciously, so you might keep an eye open for such folks and see if you can tune in to what they are doing. There's no telling what you may find out. Green thumb? If you don't have one, don't despair, you could develop one. As for the astrologically best dates, this is quite complex, though it was a good question that has been avoided in the responses I've read. First you need to consider what kind of a plant a pear is. It is a fruit, of course. Often the trees are grafted, and we chould ask why? To get good fruit there have been centuries of emphasis on the fruiting characteristics of the plant while the roots were neglected. We can do a lot for a fruit tree if we bring together the fruiting and root sides of the tree to a fuller union. The best excample I've seen of doing this was in Mark Fulford's nursery and orchard in Maine, where he sprayed compost tea with some kaolin every two or three weeks. Another effort in this direction was Peter Escher's biodynamic tree paste, which incorporated such things as lime and clay along with horn manure and was painted on the trunks. There are better formulas now than in Peter's time, but he pioneered the concept. In any event I'm pointing this out because we cannot think simply of planting the tree in the most powerful fire sign in order to accentuate the fruiting aspect of the tree. It won't do to set a crop of luscious pears that rot or are unsound internally. However, since the pear is an above ground crop you want to have the Moon in a fire constellatio
Re: Getting Worried
>Will - It will be 3 weeks mon since I broke my foot and 3 weeks Wed >since I put a cast on it. I'd VERY MUCH like to not have a cast at >ACRES, in fact, I can't imagine getting from my room to the hall on >fucking crutches. On the other hand, my Dr ain't going to go for >taking the cast off and I don't seem to be able to find a CAM BOOT >that fits me. (It goes on) > >I'm thinking of soaking the cast off myself on Monday but I'm >wondering if that's practical (will the plaster 'get hot' when it >gets wet?) I'm also afraid that with the cast off I still won't be >able to walk because of disuse and, suddenly, I can't get from the >parking lot to the plane. > >These are the things I worry about. > >What do you think? (The foot, btw, feels great, except it has pains >in places tht I imagine are caused by walking in the friggin cast. > >-Allan Allan, I doubt seriously that plaster of paris is going to simply dissolve in water once it is set. Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Transplanting trees
In a message dated 12/6/02 11:30:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I found the information from Gil to be very insightful and helpful. I especially like the idea of tagging North on the trees to insure the proper orientation. I wish I had done that with all of my transplants in the past. >> I spent many years moving trees professionally, also planting. I found helpful for settling in new trees and also estblishing transplants this info. A tree, even if grown from seed in Nature may not have its proper orientation in the earth in regard to the group soul etheric and astral body of the tree. So, you may say, " In accordance to God's will and the Christ Jesus let this tree have its proper orientation in the ground for its best possible future growth". Dowsing is also a very helpful tool for this line of work or open up your receptivity and intuition and use instinct...sstorch
Re: Getting Worried
Oh, well
Getting Worried
Will - It will be 3 weeks mon since I broke my foot and 3 weeks Wed since I put a cast on it. I'd VERY MUCH like to not have a cast at ACRES, in fact, I can't imagine getting from my room to the hall on fucking crutches. On the other hand, my Dr ain't going to go for taking the cast off and I don't seem to be able to find a CAM BOOT that fits me. (It goes on) I'm thinking of soaking the cast off myself on Monday but I'm wondering if that's practical (will the plaster 'get hot' when it gets wet?) I'm also afraid that with the cast off I still won't be able to walk because of disuse and, suddenly, I can't get from the parking lot to the plane. These are the things I worry about. What do you think? (The foot, btw, feels great, except it has pains in places tht I imagine are caused by walking in the friggin cast. -Allan
RE: pear info
Are you looking for the Stella Natura type of info? If so, here are the next root periods: December 8, Dec. 9 (to 12 noon); Dec 16 (5 AM) to Dec 17 (9 PM), Dec. 18 (2 PM) to Dec 19 (3 PM); Dec 26-27-28. Dec. 16 is especially favourable for root work. Hope this helps, I don't follow the calendar much - just read the essays. Nancy G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Gil, wonderful information, but what I really need is when according >to moon signs, etc is best to transplant. __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
