RE: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Nancy Geffken
Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me know, ok? We'll count lurkers in this poll also.

No computer audio equipment for listening here. (No CDs either, we're really 
stoneage.) 

Would you include the audio file web address in the BDNow ads that have run in Acres 
and Lilipoh? Or is that cluttering? 

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Re: McDonald's Start's Organic Bid

2003-01-16 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus





  Embattled fast-food chain 
  McDonald's is to start sellingorganic produce in its 
  restaurants from next month in adesperate attempt to curry 
  public favour. The company willreplace all cartons of 
  non-organic milk with organic milk,but it will continue to 
  use non-organic milk in milkshakesand 
  sundaes.Every great journy begins with the first step. Keep encouraging them 
  and they may complete the journey.The global 
  outfit, famous for its processed food, says thechange is in 
  response to customer demand. It claims it wasunable to offer 
  organic milk before because it could notguarantee adequate 
  supplies.The news comes as the fast-food 
  giant warns it will make aquarterly loss for the first time 
  in its 47-year history forthe period ending December 31, 
  2002. It is in the process ofclosing restaurants around the 
  world, including at least sixsites in 
  London.In August last year, its Swedish 
  restaurants began sellingorganic milk and organic ice cream. 
  Sweden's McDonald's alsosaid it was considering organic 
  coffee, but had ruled outselling organic 
  burgers.In the UK, McDonald's has been 
  selling free-range eggs forthe past two years in its 
  breakfast products.In June, the company 
  announced a three-year #300,000sponsorship of the Food 
  Animal Initiative (FAI), a researchproject launched by 
  Oxford University to find a mid-waypoint between organic 
  farming and modern farming 
  methods.McDonald's says it is considering 
  selling other organicproducts, such as ice cream, in the 
  future, but adds thatits strategy will be influenced by 
  developments at the FAI.--END 
COPY--


Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Allan Balliett
Allan,

The settings on Real Player go as low as 28.8... however, I usually 
log on at 24.. sometimes getting to 26.4 if I'm lucky!!!

Perry - I didn't understand the extent of your problem. Anything 
under 28.8 is going to experience problems unknown to beta testers, 
etc. What do you need to get a faster connection? IS this just a 
modem thing or are your lines that poor?

Folks - Think of Perry, please, when you do not edit your replies!! I 
bet we have readers with even lower connections. -Allan



RE: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Allan Balliett
Thanks, my friend. It's good to hear that they are being made use of. 
I guess I was hoping that they would be more of a stimulus for 
discussion. Maybe I'll put counters on the files and then just assume 
the messages are getting out in the world. Thanks for the feedback, 
my friend. -Allan

?Allan: I have listened to all three presentations and I bought VANDANA
SHIVA's books too.
I think your effort is worthy even if just a handful of people get
inspired and decide to do something about it.





RE: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Allan Balliett
No computer audio equipment for listening here. (No CDs either, 
we're really stoneage.)

Would you include the audio file web address in the BDNow ads that 
have run in Acres and Lilipoh? Or is that cluttering?

Wow, Nancy! Let me know when you need suggestions for upgrading.

What needs to be done is to move the audio files to 
www.gardeningforthefuture.com and give that as the BD Now! 
registration address.



Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Lloyd Charles

- Original Message -
From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: BD Now! Audio Files


 Allan,
 
 The settings on Real Player go as low as 28.8... however, I usually
 log on at 24.. sometimes getting to 26.4 if I'm lucky!!!

 Perry - I didn't understand the extent of your problem. Anything
 under 28.8 is going to experience problems unknown to beta testers,
 etc. What do you need to get a faster connection? IS this just a
 modem thing or are your lines that poor?

 Folks - Think of Perry, please, when you do not edit your replies!! I
 bet we have readers with even lower connections. -Allan


Allan
I am on line now at 26.4 occassionally we might get 28k (a lucky
break and not often) - our service is more reliable than some I have
compared notes with in similar rural areas of the US but fast it is not -
the cure to this is to download then play but download times equally slow -
I think this is a situation where you might have to forget about a few of
us. If we want to go fast we have to go play with sattellites - its real
good but pricey. Incidentally this is not much of a problem with normal
stuff of the list - text only messages however long are not that slow.
Cheers
Lloyd Charles




compost tea

2003-01-16 Thread SBruno75

In a message dated 1/15/03 7:38:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does this mean anything to you? This is not static work. It is not 
only work that is being refined but it is also work in which, 
perhaps, problems have been detected and corrections offered. 
(e-coli) this is an evolving work. How does one know how to evaluate 
a piece of archival data if they are operating in a vacuum. (Reading 
the archive without working with the BD Now! group)

Why avoid the living organization? I really don't understand.
 

The tea is really a facinating thing.  In my preliminary studies of it last 
year we looked under a Nikon Phase Contrast microscope capable of 
flourescence, dark phase, phase contrast and compound microscopy.  The first 
day took me four hours to look over 1/4 inch of a microscope slide.  A few 
weeks later  I went back and the sample with the same exact inoculants and 
brew time, and brewer were identical.  The samples were completely different. 
 Totally different biology, I was baffled.  In speaking with a brewer in 
California who was having the folks at UC Davis analyze samples, said that 
they gave up because each sample brought hundreds of previously unidentified 
species to the plate.  They could not afford the time to analyze the dataand 
biology.  It is my hope that through working with my Alma Mater, Southampton 
College, we can use some Marine Biological methods to analyze the teas.  One 
such test will be the diurnal sampling.  Here a sample is drawn and tested 
every hour four 24 hours.  I would like to modify it to extend for 36-48 
hours to get a good picture of vitality and decline in the teas.  It was 
alluded to in another conversation that populations shift on a 28 day lunar 
cycle, affected by cosmic events...sstorch




Re: compost tea

2003-01-16 Thread Allan Balliett
 was
alluded to in another conversation that populations shift on a 28 day lunar
cycle, affected by cosmic events...sstorch



Thanks, SS, for this important post.

I am also hearing from people who test regularly that either the 
populations vary greatly with the same inputs -or- something strange 
happens in the Fed Ex truck! Let's hope you work progresses! -Allan



FW: [globalnews] Human Actions Blamed for Worst AustralianDrought in History

2003-01-16 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Human Actions Blamed for Worst Australian Drought in History




Environmental News Service
Human Actions Blamed for Worst Australian Drought

SYDNEY, Australia, January 15, 2003 (ENS) - Human-induced global warming was a key factor in the severity of the 2002 drought in Australia, the worst in the country's history, according to a report issued Tuesday by WWF Australia. The report is part of an effort by Australian environmental organizations to convince the Liberal Government of John Howard to reverse its policy and sign the Kyoto climate protocol.

Higher temperatures and drier conditions have created greater bushfire danger than previous droughts, the report warns. Drought severity has increased in the Murray Darling Basin, where 40 percent of Australia's agricultural produce is grown. It has cost some A$8.1 billion in lost farm production, and taxpayer funded drought assistance to farmers could exceed A$500 million.

drought
Dry rangeland in Western Australia (Photo courtesy National Land and Resources Audit)
The report, Global Warming Contributes to Australia's Worst Drought, compares the 2002 drought with the four other major droughts in the country since 1950 and has found higher temperatures caused a marked increase in evaporation rates from soil, watercourses and vegetation.

The higher temperatures experienced throughout Australia last year are part of a national warming trend over the past 50 years which cannot be explained by natural climate variability alone, said Professor David Karoly, formerly professor of Meteorology at Monash University.

Karoly coauthored the report with Dr. James Risbey from Monash University's School of Mathematical Sciences, and Anna Reynolds, WWF Australia's Climate Change Campaign manager.

In 2002 Australia recorded its highest ever average March-November daytime maximum temperature. The temperature across the country was 1.6C higher than the long term average and 0.8C higher than the previous record.

The Murray Darling Basin experienced average maximum temperatures more than 1.2C higher than in any previous drought since 1950.

Most of this warming is likely due to the increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from human acitivity such as burning fossil fuels for electricity and transport and from landclearing, said Karoly.

The actual trend in Australian temperature since 1950 now matches the climate model studies of how temperatures respond to increased greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Karoly believes this is the first drought in Australia where the impact of human-induced global warming can be clearly observed.

Dr. Risbey said that although the 2002 drought was related to natural climate variations associated with El Nio, last year's higher temperatures could not be attributed solely to this factor.

While higher temperatures are expected during El Nio triggered droughts, Risbey said, the 2002 drought temperatures are extraordinary when compared to the four major droughts since 1950, with average maximum temperatures more than 1C higher than these other droughts.

Reynolds says global warming is affecting the livelihoods of rural Australians. The report contains new data on evaporation rates, and says low rainfall and higher evaporation has adversely impacted agricultural productivity with lower crop production leading to lower export earnings for farmers.

dust
Sheep surrounded by a cloud of dust in Australia's 1982 drought. (Photo courtesy Australian Bureau of Meteorology)
WWF is urging Prime Minister Howard to sign the Kyoto climate protocol to prevent more economic and environmental devastation. Australia would be permitted to limit its greenhouse gas emissions to an eight percent increase in the 2008 to 2012 period. The Howard government has chosen to follow the United States away from the protocol and towards technological and market based ways to dealing with global warming.

We can slow global warming, keep temperature increases to the lower end of the scale and reduce the severity of future droughts, said Reynolds.

The Kyoto Protocol is the first international agreement with targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and slowing global warming - it is in our national interest to ratify the treaty, she said.

The nation's largest conservation group agrees. The Australian Conservation Foundation (ACF) issued a statement today urging the Howard government to reconsider its Kyoto Protocol policy. Australia and the United States are now the only developed countries refusing to join Kyoto - and both countries are big contributors to climate change, with huge greenhouse pollution problems, the ACF said.

If the Howard Government is serious about addressing climate change and protecting Australia's natural resources, agricultural industries and economy, it would ratify the Kyoto Protocol immediately, said the ACF. With water already such a problem, Australia can't afford to ignore climate change.

river
In the 

FW: [globalnews] ANOTHER CRUCIAL MESSAGE

2003-01-16 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] ANOTHER CRUCIAL MESSAGE







Every action of our lives touches some chord that will vibrate in eternity.
~Edwin Hubbel Chapin~
 
Let go of the idea that 'action' only means doing something physical. Every 'action' that you impart with love to others lives on in them and the lives they in turn touch. 
 















FW: [globalnews] Jesus 'healed using cannabis'

2003-01-16 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Jesus 'healed using cannabis'




Jesus 'healed using cannabis'

Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles
Monday January 6, 2003
The UK Guardian

Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings.

The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims.

There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic religion, Carl Ruck, professor of classical mythology at Boston University said.

Referring to the existence of cannabis in anointing oils used in ceremonies, he added: Obviously the easy availability and long-established tradition of cannabis in early Judaism... would inevitably have included it in the [Christian] mixtures.

Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the oils used by Jesus were literally drenched in this potent mixture... Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin.

Quoting the New Testament, Mr Bennett argues that Jesus anointed his disciples with the oil and encouraged them to do the same with other followers. This could have been responsible for healing eye and skin diseases referred to in the Gospels.

If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil... and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ, Mr Bennett concludes.
..
HIGH TIMES
BACK TO THE GARDEN
The religious revelations in this book will leave you saying Holy Shit.
by Preston Peet

Authors Chris Bennett and Neil McQueen have created an exhaustive study of both the Old and New Testaments in their book, Sex, Drugs, Violence and the Bible (Forbidden Fruit Publishing). The book will disturb most devout followers of the Jewish and Christian faiths as portrayed in the modern Bible.

Starting with the Old Testament tale of the Garden of Eden, asserting that the Tree of Life was cannabis sativa and that the Cain and Abel story may in fact have been a contrived piece of propaganda against certain sacrificial rites of Near Eastern fertility cults, the authors move merrily along, documenting various respected religious figures who partake in the smoke of cannabis-laden incense and other psychedelic substances, and who fornicate and commit slaughter before, during and after communing with their God.

The authors then dissect the New Testament, giving evidence that not only Jesus may have been married and/or gay, but to attain his Messiah-hood, he was anointed by John the Baptist with an oil that contained large amounts of cannabis. Most alarmingly to the devout, Jesus and his disciples may have pulled off an elaborate hoax utilizing drugs to feign death in the crucifixion and resurrection incident.

The authors rely not only on the tracts the modern Bible contains, but also on many early Jewish and Christian texts, like those of the Gnostics that were excluded as heretical by early Church fathers.

Bennett and McQueen assert that religion, as portrayed in the Bible today, is basically a tool used in a conspiracy to further isolate humanity from the natural world.

The Highway to Hell is indeed paved, they write. The rediscovery of the entheogens [plant hallucinogens] may offer us a means of reacquaintance with the natural order, and a way to return back to the garden. For if there is one thing that can break through the pavement encasing our earthly paradise, it's a weed.
..
Sex, Drugs , Violence and the Bible
By Chris Bennett and Neil McQueen

Qhaneh Bosm: Cannabis and the Bible



Then the Lord said to Moses, Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of qhaneh-bosm, 500 shekels of cassia--all according to the sanctuary shekel--and a hind of olive oil. Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. Exodus 30:23

It is this term qhaneh bosm, or fragrant cane, that is the most remarkable of mistranslations found within the Bible. When it was rendered into Greek it became calamus, a common marsh plant that had no place in the sacred anointing oil of Yahweh. But so it has come down to us. In fact the Hebrew term is qhaneh bosm, or kaneh bosm. According to Rabbi Herschels Hebrew-English dictionary, 

Re: [globalnews] Jesus 'healed using cannabis'

2003-01-16 Thread RiverValley
Title: FW: [globalnews] Jesus 'healed using cannabis'



What a load of BS. These people have no 
understanding of spiritual life or a real spiritual expierence.

Daniel

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jane 
  Sherry 
  To: Bdnow 
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:16 
  AM
  Subject: FW: [globalnews] Jesus 'healed 
  using cannabis'
  Jesus 'healed using 
  cannabis'Duncan Campbell in Los AngelesMonday January 6, 
  2003The UK GuardianJesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and 
  an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a 
  study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus 
  and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings.The 
  anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called 
  kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to 
  an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was 
  Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a 
  cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his 
  claims."There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic 
  religion," Carl Ruck, professor of classical mythology at Boston University 
  said.Referring to the existence of cannabis in anointing oils used in 
  ceremonies, he added: "Obviously the easy availability and long-established 
  tradition of cannabis in early Judaism... would inevitably have included it in 
  the [Christian] mixtures."Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the 
  oils used by Jesus were "literally drenched in this potent mixture... Although 
  most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are 
  transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the 
  skin".Quoting the New Testament, Mr Bennett argues that Jesus anointed 
  his disciples with the oil and encouraged them to do the same with other 
  followers. This could have been responsible for healing eye and skin diseases 
  referred to in the Gospels."If cannabis was one of the main 
  ingredients of the ancient anointing oil... and receiving this oil is what 
  made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who 
  use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ," Mr Bennett 
  concludes...HIGH 
  TIMESBACK TO THE GARDENThe religious revelations in this book will 
  leave you saying "Holy Shit."by Preston PeetAuthors Chris Bennett 
  and Neil McQueen have created an exhaustive study of both the Old and New 
  Testaments in their book, Sex, Drugs, Violence and the Bible (Forbidden Fruit 
  Publishing). The book will disturb most devout followers of the Jewish and 
  Christian faiths as portrayed in the modern Bible.Starting with the 
  Old Testament tale of the Garden of Eden, asserting that the Tree of Life was 
  cannabis sativa and that the Cain and Abel story “may in fact have been a 
  contrived piece of propaganda against certain sacrificial rites of Near 
  Eastern fertility cults,” the authors move merrily along, documenting various 
  respected religious figures who partake in the smoke of cannabis-laden incense 
  and other psychedelic substances, and who fornicate and commit slaughter 
  before, during and after communing with their God.The authors then 
  dissect the New Testament, giving evidence that not only Jesus may have been 
  married and/or gay, but to attain his Messiah-hood, he was anointed by John 
  the Baptist with an oil that contained large amounts of cannabis. Most 
  alarmingly to the devout, Jesus and his disciples may have pulled off an 
  elaborate hoax utilizing drugs to feign death in the crucifixion and 
  resurrection incident.The authors rely not only on the tracts the 
  modern Bible contains, but also on many early Jewish and Christian texts, like 
  those of the Gnostics that were excluded as heretical by early Church 
  fathers.Bennett and McQueen assert that religion, as portrayed in the 
  Bible today, is basically a tool used in a conspiracy to further isolate 
  humanity from the natural world.“The Highway to Hell is indeed paved,” 
  they write. “The rediscovery of the entheogens [plant hallucinogens] may offer 
  us a means of reacquaintance with the natural order, and a way to return back 
  to the garden. For if there is one thing that can break through the pavement 
  encasing our earthly paradise, it's a 
  weed.”..Sex, Drugs , Violence 
  and the BibleBy Chris Bennett and Neil McQueenQhaneh Bosm: 
  Cannabis and the Bible"Then the Lord said to Moses, 
  "Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much of 
  fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of qhaneh-bosm, 500 shekels of cassia--all 
  according to the sanctuary shekel--and a hind of olive oil. Make these into a 
  sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of 

Re: [globalnews] Jesus 'healed using cannabis'

2003-01-16 Thread Barft
dude.


Conventional Science closes in on proving Sheldrake's theorem

2003-01-16 Thread Allan Balliett
From today's Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63146-2003Jan15.html

statement of interest: The more interesting implication of the study,
he suggested, is that there is a mechanism that preserves the
genetic ability to create wings, without becoming hopelessly
corrupted through mutation.  There must be something, Naskrecki
said. I just can't imagine what that mechanism would be.



Walking Sticks, Just Winging It
Insects' 'Re-Evolution' Challenges 'Use It or Lose It' Assumption of
Evolutionary Biology

By Guy Gugliotta
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, January 16, 2003; Page A03


A team of biologists says it has found what is quite likely the
first-ever documented case of re-evolution, suggesting that nature
does indeed offer second chances -- a species can evolve a new
characteristic, lose it and then regain it.

That's a radical idea, because for most of modern times, scientists
have taught that evolution, at least in part, functions on the
principle of use it or lose it. This is one reason seals no longer
have paws, moles see badly and humans lack heavy fur.

The team is challenging that assumption based on its analysis of DNA
from 37 species of the insect order Phasmatodea -- commonly known as
walking sticks -- which showed that they evolved from winged to
wingless and back again. In fact, walking sticks made the shift four
times.

The discovery calls into question one of the tenets of evolutionary
biology: that if a species loses a complex characteristic, the gene
or genes that express it will subsequently mutate so much that the
function can never be recovered.

We were shocked, said team leader Michael F. Whiting, an
evolutionary biologist from Brigham Young University. Even though
there is no empirical evidence, it has been dogma for two centuries
that something like flight requires so many complicated systems that
it could only be evolved once, and would be very difficult to
reinvent.

The study shows that somehow this whole developmental problem can be
switched on and switched off, said Pennsylvania State University
biologist James Marden. That's cool, and not just cool for insects.
That's cool across the board.

Although walking sticks exist around the world, including in the
Washington area, Whiting said he did most of his research in New
Guinea, home to a large selection of the insects. Walking sticks
number more than 3,200 species worldwide and come in both winged and
wingless varieties.

They are big bugs. The smallest is about the size of a person's
pinkie, while the largest -- about 18 inches long -- is the longest
insect in the world. Walking sticks survive by using natural
camouflage that makes them look like sticks, leaves, tree bark,
shoots of grass or reeds. Whiting said the 18-inch walking stick
hangs from a branch and sways like a dead stick.

The walking sticks' closest relative is the web spinner, which
sprays webs from its front feet -- like Spiderman. Other near
relations include cockroaches, termites, mantises, grasshoppers and
earwigs.

In its analysis, the team examined three genes from winged and
wingless walking sticks. The analysis enabled the team to rank those
species from most primitive to least primitive. The DNA from the most
primitive species most closely matched that of the web spinners,
pointing toward a common ancestor for both insects.

The thought was that the insects that did not have wings were
probably the most advanced, Whiting said. Insects can lose their
wings for several reasons, he explained. For parasites, such as fleas
or lice, wings are superfluous and awkward. And cold-weather insects
shed their wings to decrease the surface area of their bodies.

For walking sticks, the theory held, being wingless meant that the
females, at least, could devote greater energy to egg production.
Also, while primitive walking sticks would have needed wings to get
away from predators, more advanced species would have developed such
good disguises that they would no longer need to fly.

The first surprise was that all of the most primitive walking sticks,
unlike the web spinners next to them in the evolutionary tree, were
wingless, Whiting said. Much further along, however, winged species
reappeared. Subsequently, winged species disappeared and reappeared
three more times.

The inference is that the wingless ones evolved from a common
ancestor that had wings, Whiting said. The primitive species lost
their wings, but 50 [million] to 100 million years later, more
advanced species regained their wings. Whiting said walking sticks
probably made their first appearance 300 million to 350 million years
ago.

The findings did not come as a surprise to evolutionary biologist
Piotr Naskrecki, of the nonprofit Conservation International.
Naskrecki said he had observed similar behavior in other species and
found it very difficult to believe that this research is the first
documented case of a complex feature being lost and recovered.

The more 

ADMIN: Re: [globalnews] Jesus 'healed using cannabis'

2003-01-16 Thread Allan Balliett
  These people have no understanding of spiritual life or a real 
spiritual expierence.


Now, Now.

When responding emphatically to a recent post, there is no reason to 
resend the entire post to BD Now! .

Thank you,


-Allan



BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Dave Robison


I haven't noticed a lot of interest in the audio files that are posted at
www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics
Case in point: I made a call for other people's tapes and have received
to replies.
Let me know, ok? We'll count lurkers in this poll
also.
Allan, a couple of points. 
1) I'm surprised that you are tying up your own computer. I guess that's
setting up Real files. It doesn't tie up to do the streaming does it? If
so. then maybe you can find a non-profit server to host? It seems like a
lot to ask of you.
2) Thanks for providing this valuable service. I'm really glad the
resource is available. And having said that -- I haven't used it myself.
I listened to a bit of some tapes but didn't want to take the time to
listen to the whole thing. I work at my computer but somehow don't find
it conducive to listen to, even for music. And audio lectures are a
demanding media, you can't just let it pass by like video or jump
forward/backward like text, you have to be involved to actually listen.
So even tho I think this is a great resource, I'm not likely to be using
it much. When I go into research mode and find a relevant tape, I would
want to listen once and take some notes. That would be about it. I would
probably not listen again tho I might reference the source material.

BTW, I have it in mind to tape some future events, just don't have any
ready at the moment.
3) On the lurker thing -- I'm not sure I get it. I don't always post on
every subject and there are many times I wish others were as judicial. We
get a lot of unneeded shlock on this list, in addition to comments
that I highly value. That's freedom of expression, can't have one w/o the
other. Overall, this is a great group, what's the problem? 


David Robison


Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Garuda
Alan
I can appreciate that sound recordings of my presentations at your
conference may be difficult to follow without the pictures.
I have played around on my computer and can record audio (.wav) so that it
replays on Real player and WIndows media player etc.
I would be interested in recording a session or two for you if this fits
your technology. I could send them over on a CD if the files are too big.
What do you think?
Glen


- Original Message -
From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:38 AM
Subject: BD Now! Audio Files


 Folks -

 I haven't noticed a lot of interest in the audio files that are
 posted at www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics

 I've agreed to post the rest of the recordings from Sally Fallon's
 2002 Weston A. Price conference, so there's another 7 or so files
 about to go up.

 Posting files takes a very long time. One one hour presentation can
 tie my computer up for 3 hours and myself up for almost that long.

 Don't get my wrong, I'm excited to make streaming sound available to
 students of biological farming and healthy eating, but I don't want
 to invest any more time and effort into this project if people are
 not able to utilize it.

 Case in point: I made a call for other people's tapes and have
 received to replies.

 Let me know, ok? We'll count lurkers in this poll also.





Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread Allan Balliett
Alan
I can appreciate that sound recordings of my presentations at your
conference may be difficult to follow without the pictures.
I have played around on my computer and can record audio (.wav) so that it
replays on Real player and WIndows media player etc.
I would be interested in recording a session or two for you if this fits
your technology. I could send them over on a CD if the files are too big.
What do you think?
Glen


Im very interested, Glen. You can put an hour in aiff on a CD (more 
or less) I can translate .wav also. I work on a Mac, but a Mac is 
open to most formats. Sounds very good, Glenn!! THANKS!!



Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-16 Thread manfred
Allan,
Hugh Lovel's excellent 3-hr. presentation at the Guelph Organic conference a
couple years ago was professionally recorded and sold at the conference. I
believe he retained a copy. Of course it's up to him whether he feels it
appropriate to fwd to you.(or to copy).
It was interspersed during one session with some references to his
concurrent slideshow, but the wealth of his accessible verbal info would
outweigh those non-visual factors.
manfred