Re: What is Willard Water / human ingestion of the preps
How many bacteria or the like are going to survive an alcohol tincture process do you reckon? Are the spiritual activities of the soil and plant different to those active with humans? After 20 years of ingesting them on a regular basis I have no fear of them or their activity, in fact I believe them to be one of the simplest and best type of human health prevention and cure. A true gift by RS. cheers GA Chris Shade wrote: Allan, I feel the same way about preps for breakfast. They are a decomposed product mad for the decompostition zone (the soil). Yes, recompostition is a big part of plant feeding, but this stuff is still for the dark side. As per indications, they are meant to help the soil to help the plants gather these forces from the SOIL into the PLANT. On the other hand, though, the soilish effect could be altered by homeopathic potentising to specific levels. But, why not just make preparations along spagyric method lines, with the same plants, but meant, in origin, for human consumption. Maybe I am just square, but I won't put BD500 in my mouth. I did by accident once and it felt mighty strange. A more sensitive friend of mine got a drop slashed into his mouth and had all his throat glands swell up on him. Cheers, Chris --- Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Steve, I don't understand. If the preps are good medicine, why did steiner tell us to eat traditional foods that were grown in soils and atmospheres enlivened by the preps rather than to eat the preps themselves? Like most BD practitioners, I drink a gulp or so from every batch of whatever I stir, but, I'll tell you brother, I often feel more energy from a mouthful of BD kale than I do from a mouthful of bd501 stirred in water. My personal experience and my personal sense is that the preps are part of the bigger picture and not super medicine in and of themselves. The enliven soil and food in harmony with the totality of Nature and are not an end in and of themselves. Of course, I remain very interested in your sensibilities and your experiences. _Allan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Transplanting remedies ?
Garuda BD Rooting Compound works wonderfully well I hope top have some pictures of broad beans using rooting comp as opposed to our combination spray Etherics on the web site very soon. Most interesting Glen A - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Transplanting remedies ? Dear Per, Not quite. Like cures. And Bach Flower Remedies are sold everywhere, presumably at your city organic food place. You put a few drops of this remedy in a bucket of water and stir like a BD remedy. Use for transplants. If you want to know specifically what grasses walnut allows to grow, look under a walnut tree. It inhibits ALL others. But walnut remedy does not inhibit growth. You use walnut REMEDY to promote growth. That goes for grapes too. Precision in language has its desirable side. Best, Hugh Hi Hugh Opposite cures ? Interesting, what dilution of remedy's are you suggesting, and can you recommend a more economic source than the city organic food place. How do you apply this solution ? Rescue remedy is English do any one make it the USA ? Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut who ?? Is it know what grasses walnut remedy promotes ? Do's walnut remedy inhibit growth of grapes ?? Why would you select a homeopathic remedy's rater than a BD prep 501/or ?? in addition to BD prep ?? (I have not yet understood all BD preps and function of them, I'm a slow reader) Thanks Per Garp/NH - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 02:50 PM Subject: Re: Transplanting remedies ? Hi All Can some one explain the transplanting function of this rescue remedy and the Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut I'm familiar with rescue remedy, but have no information abut :Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut: Normally Walnut inhibit growth of other plants ?? Thanks Per Garp/NH Dear Per, You are right on the money that walnut inhibits the growth in almost everything except one or two grasses and black raspberries. That is precisely why it is used. Homeopathy is the treatment of conditions with materials--taken out to dilute potencies--that would otherwise cause the same condition in healthy organisms. Thus to treat cancer, the usual treatment is homeopathic Iscador (mistletoe) which amounts to a cancerous growth when it occurs naturally on oak trees. In this case to get the transplants over their shock, use rescue remedy; to send them off into growth give them walnut, a Bach Flower Remedy. Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org Visit our website at: www.unionag.org -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd preps
Elaine outlined at the Bioneers conference the unscientific ness of the 2 tests they used and also the ludicriousness of having ecoli in an aerobic solution. This situation is just another example of bad science being used for capitialist ends. Need I go on about the corruptness of science in our present age. Science has become a joke. Until there is a united NAtions of science where sciences' own criteria are actually applied to itself and all branches of science are forced to keep up with each other, then science has lost its relevance as any form of authority. It is just yet one more prostitute of business. And this time its Elaine getting screwed by it. Elaine is the biggest threat to the chemical companies that has come along in a long time. She may have felt she was part of the establishment enough to have her work accepted. There are enough examples of 'expelled' scientisits around to show she may well be (is) getting the same treatment. Yet again the rich doing what they can (Joni Mitchell) Glen A Hugh Lovel wrote: Dear Frank, The E. coli scare is absurd. I question whether there is a single human on this continent that doesn't have E. coli in their intestines. On the other hand, the HR 157:H7 strain that is so pathogenic is a feed lot breed. It isn't cattle herds on pasture that have it, it is herds in confinement being fed on grain by-products. This produces a chronic diarhea condition in the cattle and hence they get HR157:H7. My local slaughter house that only slaughters local pastured beef gets tested twice a week and has never had any HR157:H7 show up. It is pathetic when fear stampedes people and they ignore the science of the subject. Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: Peppering
Most anytime especially for mammals etc. I believe the planting calendar etc has been overemphasised by those looking for some meaning, to cover up their lack of understanding of what RS indicated Biodynamics to be. Remember, RS said when it is hot Saturn works more strongly when wet the Moon. Hence the atmosphere and other layers lower down than the planets effect their working on the Earth. Better to spray by the weather than the planets. GA Allan Balliett wrote: Glen, Lloyd, et al - Over the years I've run into more and more farmers who simply make peppers whenever they collect 'enough pests.' They do this without concern for celestial aspects. All that have reported to me have been successful beyond their expectations. Ignoring these good results, as is often the limitation of my own logic, I have to ask if you folks only pepper according to Steiner's instructions for planetary position or if you've found that the peppers are effective made most any time. Thanks -Allan -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: Peppering
Lloyd Charles wrote: - Original Message - From: Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both. Having said this we do try and do weed peppers with the moon otherwise as it fits. GA Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:17 AM Subject: Re: Peppering Most anytime especially for mammals etc. I believe the planting calendar etc has been overemphasised by those looking for some meaning, to cover up their lack of understanding of what RS indicated Biodynamics to be. Hi Glen Is this application ? or making of the peppers? or both ? Lloyd Charles -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Biodynamics and Darwin
Rex Thank you for this. I have only today had this sent to me. Great isn't it. I have sent Owen two of my recent articles for his consideration. Planting by the Moon, How can it not work? and Peppering - Scientists Bane Societies Dilemma. They have been published in my column 'Wholistic Agriculture' in the local ag paper. Both have gone completely unanswered by any corresponant. I am looking forward to replying to the newspaper on many of its points, not least the inaccuracy of the correspondants information. for further clarification After the mentioned meeting I have heard nothing at all from officialdom, so I am amazed how far this enquiry got. I would have thought that given they have now decided to spend $90 million dollars eradicating this pest, that they would have spent a few more dollars, and actually got me to provide the right information for 'their brightest minds' to consider. The investigation costs by the NZ government agencies to date was a $300 payment for my costs in attending the meeting, and these came from the Waitakere city council. I have had no copy of notes or minutes from this meeting, to review as correct, before they obviously wound their version of the proposal into their corridors. Is this a scientific approach to investigating a proposal? Sadly this appears to be the state of 'their' integrity and science. We proposed a spray program over as wide an area as needed, for at least a few life cycles of the insect. It is highly likely that from that time on their numbers would decrease and become extinct. The field broadcaster was added only as a secondary experiment to the primary spray program. This program could easily have been accompanied by a pheromone program from the mentioned scientist, who actually worked on the extinction of another moth in another part of Auckland a few years ago. Interestingly he too has not been contacted to be part of the official project this time. It could have also been a cheap addition to the BT sprays they are applying. I am sure I would have been happy with a $10,000s fee for my part of their 90 mill. The phenomena this letter portrays of NZ science is a wonderful expression of the privatised science situation we have. Once an organisation gets the contract to deal with this pest, everyone else is seen as a competitior, in need of slaying at all costs. So wastage of resource, both intelligence and financial abounds in all aspects of our economy and culture. In all these public forays, it seems the degree of deceit and untruth expounded by the correspondant indicates the degree of fear and concern 'they' have. By the looks of this document 'they' are shit scared and running. I can but smile and keep chasing them. What fun. Peppering will not be going away anytime soon, as it works and is cheap - the basis of the NZ farmers budgeting. The real humour is that I have recently moved a long term infestation of possums away from my house and garden without peppering them, just the BD preps. Wait till they try and wrap their heads around that one. Peppering is comparatively easy to understand compared to this. Vegetables now grow unprotected where in the past they only grew in cages. Anytime, anywhere. A block (aussie for male person) needs a hobby while on the planet. loving these transits GA Rex Teague wrote: On 26 Sep 02, Don/Eve Cruse wrote: What I really meant, however, was a battle between ideas. Such a battle should not ever descend into physical conflict, although it can do. Call me naive but the sentiments of the following article - not to mention the motivation for writing such an attack - bewilder me. I hesitate to pass it along, it may however be grist to Don's mill? NBR = 'National Business Review' a New Zealand newspaper and McShane's website is listed at the end, in his signature file. ---Cut 'n paste begins--- From: Owen McShane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: nz.politics Subject: My NBR column on Biodynamics Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:23:09 +1300 Taking Pepper with a Grain of Salt The New Zealand Skeptics awarded this years Bent Spoon Award to Jeanette Fitzsimons. The Green Party Co-leader had been -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Biodynamics and Darwin - Planting by the Moon - How can it NOT work article
Planting by the Moon How can it NOT work? by Glen Atkinson There appears to be a very popular belief about that life on Earth exists in some kind of isolation to the rest of the Universe and that plants and especially humans are unaffected by all that goes on about us. An examination of some simple astronomical realities however would suggest the opposite view to be the more rational conclusion. In recent years the Hubble telescope has allowed us to view the stars and therefore the process of creation in a new light. One of the big steps forward has come from pictures of stars which show they are 'made' through a process of movement over a long period of time which forms them into the shape of a gyroscope. A gyroscope is any structure that has a vertical axis around which a flat horizontal plane spins. The essential element of this form though is that it exists only as a structure of movement. All gyroscopic bodies, be they stars or planets, spin at incredible speeds which in turn leads to the formation of spiralling vortexes on their vertical axis. Our Earth has these vortexes coming from its poles. They are the cause of the Aurora phenomena that sees different colours waving across the sky at the higher latitudes. The colours are caused by the mineral elements of the solar wind being drawn down the vertical vortexes and into the Earth atmosphere. In all the various astronomical gyroscopic structures the vertical vortexes suck matter and gases down into the centre of the body. Once in the centre it depends on the type of body what happens next. Galaxies and stars compress the gases and matter to such a state that the hydrogen ignites and an outwards explosion occurs, squirting gases and newly made substances out across the flat horizontal plane. On Earth, the substance is held by the planet while only energy forces are spun off along a horizontal plane. Movement creates several responses. Not only does it create gyroscopic spinning objects but it also creates electricity. Something as simple as a water droplet falling through the atmosphere leads to it spinning, which in turn forces it into becoming a positively and negatively charged substance. Once so charged it then has the ability to attract to it other charged elements such as nitrogen, which is then conveyed to the soil and plants upon hitting the Earth. Science tells us almost everything has an electrical charge of some kind and our experience of most things occur due to electro-magnetic interchanges. From soil science to the human nervous system it is the electric interchange which makes things happen. This development of an electrical charge by a moving object takes on gigantic proportions once we look into space. Stars which have been moving at enormous speeds for some billions of years ( our Sun moves around the Galaxy at approximately 64,000 mph ) create huge electro-magnetic fields around themselves. Our Suns EM field is around 12 light hours across the centre while our Galaxy's EM field has a diameter of some 100,000 light years. The organization of matter inside these fields occurs according to the nature of the electro magnetic field it exists in. Planets do not just appear in any old place in the sky, they appear firstly along the horizontal axis of the Suns gyroscope, and secondly at highly predictable rhythmical spacings along this plane in sync with the electro magnetic bands of the Suns EM field. The spacing of the planets is so ordered that it has lead to the formulation of 'Bodes law' which was further used to establish the positions of Uranus and Neptune prior to their discovery. Most school children are shown the experiment with a magnet placed under a sheet of paper which has a heap of iron filings placed upon its surface. Once the magnet is placed under the paper, the iron filings move to mirror the EM fields of the magnet. Now it is not too difficult to imagine that if this paper was spinning at 46,000 mph as we are around our Sun, that these lines of iron filings would themselves spin and draw the matter of each band into little balls, spinning around the central magnet and held in place by the EM field. Hence our Solar systems order. One thing to remember when viewing Astronomy is that is moving, both through spin and forward movement. It is this movement which organises things and which produces the electro-magnetic (EM) forces that hold everything in relationship to each other. Here on earth we are confronted with lots of physical forms, of which we can not see the EM field which organises them. Yet every living thing and even the soil particles has an EM charge. We humans resonate at 8.7.hertz. As farmers we know that plants only take up elements that are made up of a positively and negatively charged elements and that they combine due to these electric charges. Astronomy thus supports soil science in showing us that everything in creation is electro magnetically sensitive and that where the electro
Re: Biodynamics and Darwin - peppering article
Peppering: Science's Bane and Societies Dilemma By Glen Atkinson Dr Rudolf Steiner's 'Peppering' method of pest control has hit the national news again, followed quickly by detractors waxing lyrical in editorials and letters to the editor filled with half-truths against it. Peppering is one of the methods Dr Steiner suggested in 1924 that could be used to control many forms of pest. It entails burning the pest or parts thereof and sprinkling around the ashes. This was said to create infertility within the target species - they will either move away or die out. It has been used continuously since 1924 on a small scale within the Biodynamic farming community with some startling success. I, personally, have had many positive experiences using the method. An early and convincing experience was in 1978 when Scotch thistle plants set heads with no seeds at the bottom of the fluff. This occurred in the season following the spreading of ash. This latest ripple caused by peppering comes from an article in the NZ Herald on March 25. It reported Coromandel MP Jeanette Fitzsimmons' suggestion to a conference of Engineers for Social Responsibility that peppering should be investigated with some proper trials. She supported this request with a reference to the antics of yours truly, my colleague Peter Bacchus and some 75 orchards using peppers commercially in the Bay of Plenty. She also mentioned the 200ha possum peppering trial carried out in the Coromandel Peninsular in 1999. Naturally I fully support her suggestion however, there appears to be some significant hurdles to overcome before this cheap, environmentally friendly and effective method can be used to replace the present 1080 based mass extermination of our wildlife every four years. What are the blocks in the way? A few which come to mind are mainstream acceptability, lack of 'scientific' data (only one existing trial), peppering being a 'free' method with no patents possible, and probably most importantly it challenges the scientific materialistic worldview at its core. Scientific Acceptability Like real estate agents want Location, Location, Location, scientific authorities want, Data, Data , Data, which costs Dollars, Dollars, Dollars. Science is a rich mans'/rich corporations game and with the present state of disarray among the scientific authorities in our society, it is virtually impossible to provide data that is universally acceptable anyway. Just look to the GE debate for an example. Even if satisfactory data could be gathered who is going to pay for it. So who is going to pay for it? Peppering is a method freely available to anyone who reads Dr Steiner's agricultural course, so no business of any size can 'own' the method. Anyone can do it and with the Kiwi do-it-yourself spirit alive and well, people will. The more it is proved effective the more competition there will be to make a dollar from it. This is a 'social' method and so society must fund its research. Ah, public good funding, you shout. This illusive beast of NZ government funding is indeed a possibility. However, we are then confronted with the problem of finding an independent scientific institution unconnected to the corporates presently benefiting from poisoning our country. A Landcare scientist offered to do the trials but Landcare has been working on a GE possum bait since 1993. Independent science within a corporatised scientific culture - is this not a contradiction in terms? The existing 'science' on peppering. In 1991, the Forest Research Institute carried out a possum peppering trial done in co-operation with the Biodynamic Association of NZ. This trial is held up as THE definitive trial of peppering's failure, however an examination of the trial's parameters shows that it was testing for repellent effects not infertility and that while bait stations were fed for 16 days prior to the spreading of the ash, the following monitoring was for only two days. This is hardly enough time for the possums' habitual routines to change. When possums returned after two days the trial of peppering as a whole method was considered a failure. And so it should be ina trial using this criteria. To proclaim this as THE definitive study, though, and to stop all further research on this basis is surely highly unscientific. Is a drug approved for use after one small inadequate experiment? Naturally, its effects have to be repeatable. So how many repeats and variations have been carried out? By which scientific standards can this trial be considered definitive? We have $100 million a year spent on 1080 and not one cent spent on further research of this very cost-effective and non-toxic method. This trial was based on the wrong criteria and the wrong time scale and all it has proven is the lack of understanding of the method and the personal foolishness of its perpetrators. May the present, albeit circumstantial evidence, stand as a light beam pointing to the need
Re: Biodynamics and Darwin -The peppering proposal to the Waitakare City Council
Rex Teague wrote: On 26 Sep 02, Don/Eve Cruse wrote: For those who might be interested in the real thing. Note no mention of the field broadcaster as made a central issue of by the NBR correspondant. GA Harry O'Rouke, CEO, Waitakere City Council, PB 93109, Henderson Waitakere City. 9th July 2001 Dear Mr O'Rouke, After a discussion with a member of Mr Bob Harvey's staff I am writing to you with information regarding the work our company has done with the organic control of insect and mammal pests over the last 5 years. The method we have used in this work was suggested by the philosopher Dr Rudolf Steiner in 1924, and is called peppering, due to the sprinkling of the burnt ash of the said pest over the ground 'as one would sprinkle pepper over a meal'. Since 1924 this method has been used in many ways with very beneficial effects. Regrettably it has also been the subject of some inadequate trials which have not produced positive results. In New Zealand two such trials have been carried out, one by the FRI in 1991 and a second I believe was carried out on Rangitoto island by DOC. We have not been associated with either of these trials and are on record criticising both the method used and the duration of these trials. Our methodology has been developed on from Dr Steiner's initial suggestions and now provides a superior result to that achieved by those engaged in the above mentioned trials. Enclosed is a letter from one of our clients, Tim Oliver of Cambridge, which outlines the effects he has experienced over a five year period. Approximately 50 orchards in the Bay of Plenty region regularly use 'peppers' for the control of Passion Vine Hopper. We have also peppered Fuller Rose Weevil this last season. Early results suggest good results with several orchards that had infestations last year - which prohibited their entry into the Japanese market - reporting no infestation this year. We have also peppered Gold Finches and Sparrows, which attack the flowers of the Gold kiwifruit, for one client with good results. Also enclosed is the preliminary results of a 200 ha. possum trial carried out in 1999 on the Coromandel Peninsular. This trial has confirmed the effectiveness of the method used for forested areas. Further counting is planned for the area to see the duration of effectiveness. Reports from people living near the treated area suggests far lower numbers of possums exist in the treated area compared to the surrounding areas, even to this day. This confirms earlier work we have done with possums, where four years control from one application of the pepper is not unusual. We understand your council is presently facing an infestation from an apple moth and that you are looking for 100% annihilation of this pest. Sadly we can not guarantee this level of eradication in the first season, however we can see a place for peppering as a longer term control of this pest and any other such as rats, possums, ferrets, stoats, rabbits etc you might be needing to control in the areas you are planning to spray. We understand you are planning to spray BT for the Apple Moth. The peppers would be compatible with this spray and a liquid form of the peppers could be added to the BT application. This would in effect be 'killing several birds with one stone. As the letter from Tim Oliver shows our methods and services are very cost effective for the returns gained. Dr Steiner suggested that Peppering works by making any insect or mammal of the designated species infertile if they stay in the treated area, so while we note a relatively immediate drop in the numbers of pests after application, from them moving out of the area, any that do stay are rendered infertile over the following period. This we have seen in work on Thistles, were no seeds are set in the flower heads of thistles which grew in the following seasons on the treated site. This process limits the area the insects have to breed in, while in the case of mammals allows for them to be moved towards sites they can be easily trapped in. This offers a significant advantage over poisoning especially for the presently lucrative possum industry. If you wish to discuss the use of our services further we can be contacted at the above addresses. Yours sincerely, Glen Atkinson -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: Biodynamics and Darwin
Don In the early part of your article you mention 'a new and significant impulse to the spiritual life of mankind' What do you belive this is? Your other points regarding the two streams of Anthroposophy not working together and the rejection and exclusivity you experience, as a long term member of that community, may well be linked together. It seems this chism in the physical body of anthroposphia extends into her spiritual bodies some way. I have often wondered about the immense resistance I have experienced to my own work, from Anthroposophists, and the fervour by which the sects seems to combat with another. In many ways this seems to be a general human tendancy, however for a 'spiritually' inclined group, the A team sure find the astrality a challenge. Good luck with your pursuits. Glen A Eve Cruse wrote: In the lecture series Karmic Relationships Vol. IV, Rudolf Steiner clearly indicates that he expected the Platonic and Aristotelian streams to work together at the end of the 20th century in order to bring a new and significant impulse to the spiritual life of mankind. This expectation prompts us to ask: what kind of impulse had he in mind? Certainly it would need to be something in keeping with his own striving, but it would need also to go beyond that which is explicit in his legacy, otherwise it could not be considered a 'new' impulse. Don Cruse -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: Good sense and bad habits.
Are dogs not a good deterent for deer?? GA Peter Michael Bacchus wrote: broadcasters ensured good crops and we had the best produce at the market. Isn't it hard to argue with results? We had a lot of deer problems this year. Come to find out I thought we had a deer pepper in the broadcaster but we didn't. So I don't know where we stand there. But our okra was wiped out, half the cukes were eaten, all the beans, even the tomatoes and potatoes were eaten some. They pawed up the potatoes and ate them and decimated the beets once they discovered them. Still we've had a good year so far. 3 more months to go. I'm amazed people would put poison on food. Or gow it with expensive chemicals when no chemicals gets good yields of superior quality. Why? It's amazing. Hi Hugh, Human beings are beings of habit, like animals, Just look how hard it is for a smoker to give up or what an alcoholic has to go through before (s)he sees the light. Warm regards, Peter. Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says BritishGuru
James I am not sure if you have noticed that Australia is the US's little brother and that it is becoming more like the US every day and the people are so party orientated or lethargic that they have not even noticed some of the most draconion legislation in the world against natural health and in support of rampant GE is in OZ. All with out a wimper. As long as no one notices I guess it is not going on. A little like the tree falling in the forest -yeah right. The real axis of evil claims from the EArth Summit has been aimed at Aus. Canada and the US. Ra RA the great aussie rip shit and bust spirit. Yes it is there as it is in the US but the government is doing the same things with the same attitudes with the same outcomes. It only a matter of time and the US and Aussie will be indestinguishable. Glen (expat aussie) James Hedley wrote: Dear Allan, You sound very cynical about society in the US. As I have said many times before if the kitchen gets too hot you can always come to Australia, which is generally recognised as being a tolerant society.Come to Australia before the bottom falls out of the $US. You wont see such a high proportion of Australians who would support such draconian measures as removing the right of free speech for anyone who is critical of the government. In the end it is the people who allow governments to terrorise them, not the terrorists. Support more of your politicians to get a passport and see what goes on in the real world. It would also help if you got more people to vote. Somewhere I saw that no more than 30% of Americans vote. If you put out that you dont care what happens to you, then you must take what you get. The only way that you are going to recover what you see as the traditional relationships is to change it person by person. All that you can do is to change your perceptions, and treat other people the way that you would like to be treated. Maybe what is needed is another revolution to allow the new society in. Remember that it is people who have defined the American dream for you, not some amorphous multinational. James Hedley Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says BritishGuru Moen Creek wrote: but what do the multi-national corporations care. They will be able to buy clean food. What do corporations eat? People. Patti. To stealthily make all people vulnerable to them in the very future, they devour the traditional relationships between people and between people and the world around them, relationships that have sustained human cultures for eons. Gone or going are the traditional relationship between person and family of birth, person and teacher, person and physician, person and strangers, person and friends, person and the opposite sex, person and life mate, person and food, person and nutrition, person and personal property, person and public property, person and livelihood, and on and on. In the end we will all stand exposed, with nothing but the corporate teet to turn to for the support of our lives...or die young, a scenario that works well for the corporations. Many of these devoured relationships, relationships where traditionally we have found support for our human being, are consumed as we cheer in happiness for the convenience that has been brought to us in exchange. -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Field Broadcaster
James How big a radius does your rabbit work for from the source of the skin Glen James Hedley wrote: Dear Louise, We have a rabbit pepper that you will find very effective without having to go down the path of a field broadcaster. Send an Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will see how we can get it to you. You must live somewhere near us at Running Stream, halfway between Lithgow and Mudgee. Regards James Hedley - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Field Broadcaster - Original Message - From: Louise Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Field Broadcaster Re: Field BroadcasterI want to keep rabbits off my property, away from my plants and out of my life...how do I make contact Hi Louise I have made some field broadcasters for people - but have not tried them on rabbits yet. Where are you and what size area are you looking to protect? Lloyd Charles -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
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Bt cotton -- bitter harvest
Subject: Bt cotton -- bitter harvest Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:11:23 +1200 From: Rod Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bt cotton bubble is beginning to burst. Reports reaching from Khargone distrct in Madhya Pradesh, in the heart of the cotton-growing belt in India, indicate 100 per cent crop failure. Farmers are naturally demanding compensation from the company. In the northern regions of the country, Bt cotton has been afflicted with the 'leaf curl virus'. Elsewhere, the economics that was worked out by the Indian Council of Agricultural Research (ICAR) to promote the unsustainable technology has turned out to be untrue. In Indonesia, Agri Research Station for Tobacco and Fibre (Balittas) of the Department of Agriculture has accepted that Bt cotton yields less than the popular cotton (and non-transgenic) variety Kanesia 7. To know more about Indonesian findings, click here: http://www.agbioindia.org/story3.asp Another hidden cost of the Bt cotton cultivation is its water requirement. Neither the ICAR nor the department of biotechnology is willing to tell us that the water requirement for Bt cotton is much more than the traditional varieties. The Bt cotton story has been mired in controversy from the very beginning. We have repeatedly said that entire exercise to approve Bt cotton for commercial cultivation was scandalous. While the distinguished panelists on the three committees that accorded clearance at different stages --GEAC, RCGM, and MEC -- will go scot-free, the resulting cost of the bitter harvest will have to be borne by the farming communities. 1. Bt cotton: bitter harvest 2. Bt cotton prone to leaf curl virus in north India. 1. Bt cotton - bitter harvest By Mihir Shah Debashis Banerji The Bt cotton story in India had all the makings of a terrible tragedy, even before official permission was granted for its cultivation. First reports from Khargone district of Madhya Pradesh, one of the cotton headquarters of India, endowed with fertile black cotton soil, speak of a 100 per cent failure of the Bt cotton crop. Farmers are up in arms demanding compensation from the company that supplied these seeds. While other cotton varieties have also been adversely affected by the drought, they report a failure rate of only around 20 per cent. This is a performance that has shocked even the worst critics of genetically-modified (GM) crops. We do not expect such a complete disaster to be repeated everywhere. But the Bt cotton story in India had all the makings of a terrible tragedy, even before official permission was granted for its cultivation in March 2002. The tragedy began unfolding in Gujarat where over ten thousand acres of Bt cotton were planted illegally last year. The Genetic Engineering Approval Committee (GEAC) of the Union Ministry of Environment and Forests, whose permission is required for cultivation of any GM crop, ordered the destruction of this illegal Bt cotton. But the decision was never implemented. In March this year, three hybrid Bt cotton seeds supplied by the Mumbai-based company, Mahyco, were approved by the GEAC for cultivation in central and south India. The U.S. multinational Monsanto has a 27 per cent stake in Mahyco. Bt cotton seeds have been genetically engineered to produce a toxin that can kill the bollworm, a major headache for cotton farmers. They are ineffective against other pests and even according to their suppliers do not have any mechanism to raise yields. The idea is that they would raise the net incomes of farmers since they are expected to reduce spending on pesticides. But a simple calculation shows that the economics does not quite work out. Seeds currently being used by farmers cost an average of Rs. 325 per hectare. The pesticide cost is around Rs. 400 per hectare. The Bt cotton seeds are about four times as expensive as existing seeds, i.e., Rs. 1,300 per hectare. Some pesticide has to be used even with Bt seeds, particularly because 20 per cent of Bt cotton fields need to be covered with non-Bt seeds (to ensure that pest resistance to Bt cotton does not rapidly develop). Even if Bt seeds are presumed to lead to a dramatic reduction in pesticide costs to say Rs.150 per hectare, the total cost of seeds and pesticides would still be double in the Bt case - Rs. 1,450 compared to Rs. 725 per hectare for seeds currently in use. The mandatory requirement of growing non-Bt cotton in each Bt cotton plot is based on resistance management plans devised in the U.S., where farmers have huge land holdings. The idea is that the surviving resistant insects to the Bt crop will intermate with susceptible ones on the non-Bt crop. But Indian cotton farmers with much smaller land holdings have found it quite impossible to set aside land for these refugia. Their inability to do so will only accelerate the development of pest resistance to Bt cotton. There are also a large number of technical
Re: Eco-Footprints
mroboz wrote: In case anybody is intrested, I got a nice low Ecological Footprint total of 4.92, well below the average for the US (and presumably Canada). Michael - Original Message - From: Robin Duchesneau To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Eco-Footprints Roger, I got 7.1 from the quiz. Although it seems like eco-footprints might also have a different meaning. I'd learned that an eco-footprint was the legacy that nature left behind at the moment of human intervention. For example, if you open a clearing in a forest for agricultural purposes, then the ecological footprint would be that of a forest along with all its site factors (e.g. high pH...). The historical account of a site under ecological influence. I guess, as in many cases, this is another example of a word having different meanings. Cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Roger Pye To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 13, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: Eco-Footprints You might like to check this out - even if you don't live in Oz: http://www.global.rmit.edu.au/ link on right hand side of page. I believe New Zealand is the only country that has a higher Eco footprint rating higher that the US (8.7). NZ is 9.2 I understand GA -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: BD Prep 503 for humans
Hugh Barbara Yes I can concure with Barbaras experience and observations and Hughs suggestion that these are some of the best remedies available for human use. How are we different to the soil or plants. We have the same spiritual bodies, made of the same fabric yet woven together in slightly different patterns. What works in the soil has to work for humans. I started taking 503 in 1990. I have taken too much of it over a extended period and can only describe the experience as developing the consciousness of a pregnant women. In moderation though it does wonderful things Glen
Re: October BD Conference Update
Allan Do you expect to have a Power Point presentation projector available? I have just got my talks PP ready. Looks like a great conference cheers Glen Allan Balliett wrote: Please x-post!! The Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference: Traditional Nutrition and Restorative Farming The conference that combines Secrets of the Soil with Growing for Market - exploring the wonders of the Universe while learning to make a Better Living by Living Better! October 4 - 6, 2002 * Loudoun Co, VA Three days of fun, food, and wisdom near the Blue Ridge Mountains. Presented with Support from the Blue Ridge Center for Environmental Stewardship and the Biodynamic Association of America SCHEDULED SPEAKERS AND WORKSHOP LEADERS (by TOPIC) SPECIAL PRESENTATION Howard Shapiro, Founding member of Seeds of Change and author of the inspirational Bantam Press book, Gardening for the Future of the Earth: GROWING WITH NATURE GLEN ATKINSON (Garuda Biodynamic Consulting) Glen spoke for us in Charles Town, WV a couple of years back. Many people who attended that event have already signed up for this conference for a chance to spend more time listening to the wisdom of this prominent New Zealand progressive biodynamic practitioner. His interest has been mostly focused towards developing Steiner's Biodynamic agriculture and medical indications using his understanding of traditional Astrology. This has lead to a simple yet innovative theory and philosophy as a basis for many practical activities, which take the form an astrological and biodynamic horticultural consulting business, using a specially developed homeopathic essences system to bring out the best in both people and plants. from his web page (http://get.to/garuda). Put succinctly, Glen will teach you how to make homeopathic remedies of Steiner's preps that will make your agricultural prep applications faster and more effective. Dr. ELAINE INGHAM (Soil Foodweb Inc) Leading researcher in methods of enhancing the life in the soil to the benefit of the crops growing in it and the people eating those crops. All the buzz about compost tea has come from Elaine's work and evangelism. MARK SHEPARD Mark has much practical experience in developing perennial food systems (tree crops) for both animals and the human community. ALTERNATIVE NUTRITION and HEALING MARK PURDEY A tireless researcher, Mark is an organic dairyman from the U.K. who has found the real source of Mad Cow disease. What he has discovered will both relieve you and terrify you. Mark was the recipient of ACRES USA's Lifetime Achievement Award in 2001. WILL WINTER A featured speaker at last year's ACRES USA conference and a leading writer and speaker on holistic animal health JERRY BRUNETTI, (Agri-Dynamics) Maximizing pasture health and human health. SUBTLE ENERGY: BIODYNAMICS / COSMICULTURE / ORGONOMY HUGH COURTNEY, (The Josephine Porter Institute) Hugh makes most of the quality BD preps used in America. Brewer of the Pfeiffer field spray and compost starter. He will teach you how - - and WHY! - - to use them! Dr. JAMES DeMEO, (Orgone Biophysical Research Lab) Author of Saharasia. Leading researcher with the Reich Cloudbuster HUGH LOVEL (Union Agricultural Institute) America's foremost biodynamic teacher, author of A Biodynamic Farm for Growing Healthy Vegetables and America's leading practitioner of Cosmiculture, REGISTRATION: CONFERENCE FEE $125 for full-paid pre-registration. $150 at the door. The conference is located 70 miles from Washington DC and 20 minutes from Dulles Airport. To make reservations: Call (540) 668-6165 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Late breaking information at our web page: http://www.gardeningforthefuture.com (still under construction at the time of this announcement) OPENINGS STILL EXIST FOR Workstudy exchange for Conference Fees !!! The Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference 36824 Pinehill Lane, Purcellville, VA 20132 (540) 668-6165 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gardeningforthefuture.com --- Part 1.2 Type: Macintosh File Name: bdconf2002a.pm Part 1.2.2 Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) Encoding: base64 -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: The Wizards weekend
Hugh From what I can understand it is the formation and use of the current which is the step of the etheric depleting, as opposed to the Irish tors which are concentrators and organisors of existing force. Lloyd It is good to hear the question was at least asked. I have written some about this in my books available at my website. It is also good that you support the use of reminerialisation with the broadcaster. As there is some evidence to suggest radionic devices activate elements alright but ultimately lead to major deficiencies of mineral reserves occuring, which is the main problem in OZ for your 'ease of use' approach, which I fully appreciate. Glen Hugh Lovel wrote: Dear Glen, It appears Dennis Klocek's thoughts on field broadcasters and radionics are in sync with many other high muckity mucks in BD in America--Walter Goldstein, Herbert Koepf, et. al. That's what I was trying to explain--they are quite sure radionics and field broadcasting works, but they fear the way it works. I question, of course, whether they understand how these things work. It doesn't seem so. Dennis' depiction of a cosmic pipe in his article bears no resemblance to Hieronymus's original design or to my own field broadcaster, so I wouldn't venture to say what he is talking about. It is true, however, that strong flows such as pipelines, underground streams, electric power lines and even fault lines are things to avoid in seeking a place to lie down to sleep. In general what Dennis says about electricity and living organisms is true. They do, in fact, require a weak (I wouldn't say static as that implies no dynamics) form of electricity, such as flows along our nerve fibers. To jump off from there to condem radionics and/or field broadcasting as though it works by way of the kind of electricity on our light poles and electric motors doesn't show much understanding. Radionic devices that plug into wall current or that run on small batteries do indeed make use of electricity, but they do not do so in the way radios, computers or electric machinery do. For example, I took the panel off my Hieronymus analyser for the benefit of two physicists at Georgia State U. We mapped the components and circuits easily enough. Their frustrated summation? But it doesn't DO anything. meaning it did no work electrically. That is to say its force vectors didn't go in any particular direction, they just set up a field. In other words it was a scalar electromagnetic device--scalar meaning the force vector sum was zero in terms of electromagnetism. Unlike Dennis, however, they suspected the radionic instrument did NOT work since they couldn't explain with electromagnetic theory where the instrument did anything. On that occasion we didn't get anywhere discussing Bell's Theorem and tachyons, but we did get into an interesting discussion of Schroedinger's ideas. The trouble was that such things as Bell's Theorem, while widely accepted, doesn't have much history of being applied to everyday circumstances. It sits there on the blackboards and textbooks as an interesting oddity, a wonderful abstraction. Rather a pity. Anyway, I suggest if you want to get a good idea whether a field broadcaster depletes the etheric vitality like an electric power line does, go to my website and look at the picture of corn growing under the electric power line as well as on both sides of it. It had no fertilizer, only the field broadcaster. Under the power line it grew like it had no fertilizer, and it made no corn. Elsewhere a bumper crop. Of course, you may have hit on it that the field broadcaster triggers the fatal prejudice of modern technology. I really don't think any of the opponents of field broadcasting have an adequate understanding of how it works. Best, Hugh Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda Visit our website at: www.unionag.org -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: Vam and boron
Here in NZ we are allowed (by org. certifier) around 10kgs of Borax per ha per annum and in our 6 pH soils this appears to have a very minimal influence on the B levels even when applied over several years. Robin what ppm B levels do you consider 'normal'? Glen Robin Duchesneau wrote: Dorothy, Perhaps it would be wise to consider finding the source of the problem and a long-term solution rather then a quick fix (a.k.a. adding an external fertilizer source). Here is a few items for you to ponder. First why is your soil low on boron? 1. It's been shown that Alkaline soil conditions (pH 7) limit the availability of iron, zinc, manganese and BORON. How is your pH doing? 2. Most plant available boron (B) is derived from the organic matter and minerals. Because boron is water soluble, it can be leached into the subsoil beyond the reach of root tips. How is your soil porosity and organic content input? 3. Boron is also linked to Calcium levels. Is your low boron a serious problem? 1. Boron is involved in the uptake of calcium and is essential for fruiting (note: other unknown effects too?!). Boron deficiency causes a breakdown of the growing tips tissue or a softening of the terminal growth. Internal tissues of beets, turnips, and rutabagas show breakdown and corky, dark discoloration. What is it exactly that you've observed on your crops? Correcting Boron Deficiency The boron recommendations for soil applications are 1.5 to 3 pounds for highly responsive crops and 0.5 to 1 pound per acre for medium responsive crops. Occasionally, certain deficient soils may require up to 5 pounds of boron per acre for cauliflower and table beets. The suggested rate for foliage application is 0.3 pound of boron per acre in 30 gallons of water for highly responsive crops and 0.1 pound for low to medium responsive crops. The boron carrier most frequently used in fertilizer is sodium borate, which ranges from 10 to 20 percent boron. Solubor is a trade name for a sodium borate that is 20.5 percent boron. This compound is commonly used in foliar sprays or in liquid fertilizers. Because boron is fairly mobile in soils, several methods of application can be used. Boron may be mixed with regular N-P-K fertilizer, applied separately on the soil, sprayed on the plant, topdressed (for alfalfa) or sidedressed (for row crops). Be sure to mix completely when boron is combined with other fertilizers. Segregation due to particle size differences is often a problem. Boron should never be used in combination seedings containing legumes and grass or small grains because it will injure the grass or small grains. Boron for the legume should be topdressed after the grass has become well established or the small grain companion crop has been harvested. Be careful when banding fertilizers containing boron near the seed or plants. Too much boron near the seed or plant may be toxic to young plants or germinating seeds. Good luck - Original Message - From: Dorothy O'Brien To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 27, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Vam and boron Hugh and others-- Our soils test consistently low on boron. How would you go about adding boron? A couple of people have suggested spraying diluted borax but I am concerned the other ingredients of borax would not be considered organic. Plus, I can't tell from the borax box what the other ingredients are. Thanks, Dorothy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: OFF: Astrological portents
Hugh and Tony Hugh Lovel wrote: People ought to know that everything in the universe is in synch or it would not exist and could not manifest. I am continually struck by this reality the more and more I look at what is real from Astronomy. How can it be any other way. Where is the impermeable membrane that must be there for the scientists world view to work. It is false as they say 'the ether' is. How can humans be the only creature in creation separate and uneffected by creation? Is this not the ultimate in arrogance and madness? Tony wrote certainly worth quoting at those scoffers who conveniently assume that the only influence such a body could have is by its gravity, and thus 'demolish' astrology by showing that a passing vehicle has a stronger local gravitational effect than the nearest planet. Does this statement of the scoffers not suggest that gravity is a function of movement rather than mass? Where does gravity function without movement? The more I look the more I see 'movement' as the forgotten element in most views of creation. Are you standing still right now or are you moving/spinning at 115,000 mph through space? If so whats gravity? Are you being pulled to the Earth or are you being pushed? I say you are being pushed tot he Earth by the spinning, like the millions of tons of cosmic dust sucked into the Earth each year due to our spin thru space, not the mysterious gravity which somehow 'attracts' us from the centre of the Earth. And what spinning object does not have an electro magnetic field? and how does this field influence the attraction so often allotted to gravity? cheers Glen A cheers Glen
Re: OFF: Astrological portents
Hugh Below are the significant relationships and therefore dates to watch for. You might need to maximise your screen to get this properly. The asterix dates are the most sensitive ones. In May 26 Saturn and Pluto do their last opposition however Mars sits on Saturn from the 4th till the 8th May so this should kick this tension into gear from then onwards. Once the opposition is over on the 26th we have the Sun and Moon as a New Moon coming into spark it off around the 10th May. This is what happened on Sept 11. The opposition occurred in August and it was the Sun and Moons transits that set things in motion on Sept 11th. This then is the third pass for August and then Novembers Saturn oppose Plutos. The 3rd pass brings the outcome, the finale. So we certainly should expect round 3 to take place This can easily indicate another (final) assult on the Al Qeda, or Iraq, even Bin Ladens death??, seeing as though the Nov. event -round 2 - saw the US hammer Afghanistan and chase them out of there. It can also be a Arab relatiation point possibly. Palestine can be easily seen as the new touchstone of Arab / US conflict. Just watch the US stay away from Israel during May June. The Astro-Carto-Graphy of the Sat opp Plu (May 26) says West Africa, India/Pakistan, Solomen Islands and West coast USA are the hot spots Iraq has the New Moon on the 10th June all over its Republic chart and so could easily be the target then. Interestingly G W Bush has Pluto MC line thru Iraq. JFK had this line going thru Dallas. So ol GW could get his arse kicked if he tries to redo his dads game there. He could easily loose alot of domestic support due to Iraq. The red necks will love him but the rest of the country could easily abandon him over it. His 'axis of evil' statement has already bitten him rather severely. GW has Jupiter on his Sun at present and Uranus is coming to stir it up mid May, so he can easily be overly confident and overly adventurous from now on and thru June. (I appreciate he is not the USA and many other folk make the decisions) All very interesting, we can but wait and see how it unfolds Glen A May 2002 - Natal Chart NZT -12:00 Planet 1Planet 2DateTimeDegree of 1 Degree of 2 Mar Cnj Sat * (X) Tr-Tr May 4 2002 05:56 13°Ge53' D 13°Ge53' D Mar Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr May 8 2002 22:07 17°Ge01' D 17°Sg01' R Mar Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr May 10 2002 11:48 18°Ge04' D 18°Ge04' R Sat Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr May 26 2002 02:19 16°Ge36' D 16°Sg36' R Sat Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 5 2002 00:43 17°Ge53' D 17°Ge53' R Mon Opp Sun (X) Tr-Tr May 26 2002 11:51 05°Sg04' D 05°Ge04' D Sun Cnj Mer (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 07:10 05°Ge50' D 05°Ge50' R Mon Cnj Plu (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 07:28 16°Sg34' D 16°Sg34' R Mon Opp Sat (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 07:48 16°Sg45' D 16°Ge45' D Mon Opp Nod (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 09:40 17°Sg50' D 17°Ge50' D Mon Sqr Sun (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 00:04 12°Pi16' D 12°Ge16' D Mon Sqr Plu (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 08:21 16°Pi23' D 16°Sg23' R Mon Sqr Sat (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 10:57 17°Pi40' D 17°Ge40' D Mon Sqr Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 11:23 17°Pi53' D 17°Ge53' R Ven Cnj Jup (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 23:11 17°Cn10' D 17°Cn10' D Sat Cnj Nod * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 5 2002 00:43 17°Ge53' D 17°Ge53' R Sun Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 7 2002 04:39 16°Ge16' D 16°Sg16' R Mar Opp Chi (X) Tr-Tr Jun 8 2002 17:25 07°Cn23' D 07°Cp23' R Sun Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 8 2002 20:29 17°Ge52' D 17°Ge52' D Sun Cnj Sat * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 9 2002 11:21 18°Ge27' D 18°Ge27' D Mon Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 16:52 16°Ge11' D 16°Sg11' R Mon Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 19:59 17°Ge52' D 17°Ge52' D Mon Cnj Sat * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 21:25 18°Ge38' D 18°Ge38' D Mon Cnj Sun * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 23:45 19°Ge54' D 19°Ge54' D Hugh Lovel wrote: Dear Glen, Would you mind writing further more about the BIG events in June? Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
OFF: Astrological portents
There are several very interesting Astro events occurring at present. Two of which are of special note given the present world situation. Some will remember that we are now coming into the last Saturn Opposition to Pluto in May 2002. The last pass is when 'the outcome' of the whole transit (last 2 years) manifests. We are now in the 'wind up ' period to this event. The asteroid Ceres -goddess of fruitful Earth- is crossing over this event now and has a 90 angle -tense- to Pluto on the 9th (NZ time). I have noticed these events to be associated to the GE issue, so watch for a major development on this front. Ceres is also homeland so fights to the death for homeland is easy to see coming from this. (Is this not what the GE fight is about) The Moon has been over this in the last 12 hours and Arafat is being exciled and Palistine reoccupied. The event which sparks my writing though comes from Mars coming into a 90 angle to the Uranus opposite Persephone on the 10th. Mars and Uranus both create sudden impulsive and aggressive actions and accidents. Persephone is a planet dealing with humanity as one species and thus international relations which effect the whole world (as well as unconditional love to all beings regardless of race colour creed etc.) The tension between them suggests sudden actions of 'earthquake' proportions are likely during this time which will effect the whole of humanity. Mars / Persephone 7th, Mars/ Uranus/Vulcan 10th. We are fortunate that there are several easing aspects to these tensions and so some of the sting can be taken out of this dangerous potential certainly through international negoitiations. These are touchstone moments which are setting us up for the BIG events of early June. Get out your popcorn the show is beginning. Glen Glen A -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
James and Barbara Hedley wrote: Dear Glen, Lloyd, David and felow list members, The eight pointed star exercise raises some interesting questions as to why you can stand on this pattern and actually feel that there is a difference between different spots on the star. James What is the difference in the experience you have when you stand on the primary cross as opposed to the secondary cross? Big hint Observe your ability to stand still. Glen
Re: Agri-Synthesis ® short-lived and overpriced ? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
Moen Creek wrote:
This a posting curious given we are at the tail end of
Mercury's conjunction with Uranus. {%*)
Uranus is in opposition to Persephone, (the planet not asteroid) now as
well (early March, late September and keep an eye on January as Mars
Chiron and Athene all get in on the act as well. )
The Uranus Sqr 90 Persephone was in 1978 ish.. The planetary form of
that time is now being actively aspected by Pluto.
Definitely a great time to speak of consciousness issues.
Glen
Love Light
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Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
D S Chamberlain wrote: Glen: Thank you for posting this insight, it explains some happenings when I am dowsing. If I have the message right, we should be able to ask the question and receive an answer in our next thought, am I correct? Pretty much, this is as I experience it. Do Devas and other beings have any participation in this? Between here and the edge off the Solar System there is plenty of participatory beings, why limit your options by just 'talking' with Devas. Tried the cross exercise, nothing experienced, has this any significance? The significance of not experiencing something from this? Who am I to say. Try it again and turn out away from the centre of your cross. Do not focus on the centre. Generally all one needs do is stand on one point for a minute or two, then stand on one point 90 deg. away and then stand on the centre point between them. Have another go. The significance and connotation of the experience though can be huge. In fact it could be considered an essential experience for truly understanding the inner nature of the 'Periodic table of Elements', the Agriculture course and Gyroscopic physics generally. :} Good luck Glen David C
Dowsing Intuition - Having the Octagon Experience
This is a better thread to continue this conversation. Have you done this yet? The 'Octagon Experience' Stand on the 4 cardinal points of the cross and then stand on the in between points and tell me what you experience. Turning out away from the centre of your cross in probably best. Do not focus on the centre. Generally all one needs do is stand on one point for a minute or two, then stand on one point 90 deg. away and then stand on the centre point between them. Glen A -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
Re: Recordings of Will Brinton on the Value of Compost and Sally Fallon on the Dangers of the Food Processing Industry
Are these folks OK with you public broadcasting their tapes? GA Allan Balliett wrote: Hi Allan, I don't have the equipment for audio myself but would vote that you go ahead with putting the lectures on line, it would be a valuable addition to BDNow I guess it would be available in the future through the archives? I did have audio tapes of Sally Fallon from the Acres Conference - she was great The streaming audio from the tapes would be available on the gardeningforthefuturecom webpage It sure is easy recommending work for other people! Hope you get the help you need to accomplish it, sorry I can't contribute Nancy Geffken The issue right now is not the work The issue I'm trying to get over is determining if people would want, need, use such a resource or would I be expending time and resources imagining a 'perfect audience' that doesn't really exist? Thanks for your input, Nancy -Allan -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://getto/garuda
Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)
Pam DeTray wrote: Did you buy the potentizer to make your own reagents? Thanks. Pam DeTray What is this potentiser. Is it a two well radionics box or similiar??? Is it portable. I imagine this might solve my problems of manifesting essences while travelling and the need for a lab. Glen A -Original Message- From: D S Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:38:06 +1100 Hi James: I'll try to keep it short. I started using the FB in May 2000, at first I had no idea how to use it, beyond how I used the cosmic pipe it replaced. So I just dowsed once a month and added or removed the reagents supplied by Hugh. Nothing much happened initially as we at that stage were going into our usual dry winter. Come Spring though WOW! snip I don't know whether it was the reagents or my intentions but things started to go bad fairly quickly. The citrus seemed to get every bug known to man, together with the veggies which were a disaster, some trees not all just dropped their fruit, all this despite it being a good summer weather wise. About January February 2001 Hugh came up with a new combination of reagents which made sense to me so I bought a potentiser and started dowsing weekly to check the potencies. Since then things have been great except for the weather. -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Email.com http://www.email.com/?sr=signup -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)
Sounds great Lloyd, do you have an address for purchase? I am liking the imaginations of its potential and I look forward to experimenting with one Thanks Glen Lloyd Charles wrote: - Original Message - From: Glen Atkinson What is this potentiser Is it a two well radionics box or similiar??? Is it portable I imagine this might solve my problems of manifesting essences while travelling and the need for a lab Glen A Hi Glen Mine is a Prue instruments M4 - has a silver source plate, recipient well, 2 card slots (takes the Malcolm Rae cards), an extender lead so you can do bottles or a large tank, fits easily in a kids shoe box, cost a bit over $A500, dial settings go all the way from 1X to 10MM An experienced homeopath and dowser told me you have bought the rolls royce of potentisers In your line of work I think you would very quickly pay for one of these Lloyd Charles -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://getto/garuda
Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)
Thanks for this David D S Chamberlain wrote: The potentiser is a Prue Instruments Multipotentcy Simulator Master Module M4. It can use two card sources or a plate source, it can be extended. Prue Instruments 8 Lucinda Ave Springwood NSW 2777 Australia Telephone from outside Aust 612 4751 2904 Fax 612 4751 2903 Cost Au$525 Very portable measures about 8 x 5 x 2 !/2 high. You will need your own cards as these are not supplied. Hope this helps David C - Original Message - From: Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2002 6:57 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update) Pam DeTray wrote: Did you buy the potentizer to make your own reagents? Thanks. Pam DeTray What is this potentiser. Is it a two well radionics box or similiar??? Is it portable. I imagine this might solve my problems of manifesting essences while travelling and the need for a lab. Glen A -Original Message- From: D S Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:38:06 +1100 Hi James: I'll try to keep it short. I started using the FB in May 2000, at first I had no idea how to use it, beyond how I used the cosmic pipe it replaced. So I just dowsed once a month and added or removed the reagents supplied by Hugh. Nothing much happened initially as we at that stage were going into our usual dry winter. Come Spring though WOW! snip I don't know whether it was the reagents or my intentions but things started to go bad fairly quickly. The citrus seemed to get every bug known to man, together with the veggies which were a disaster, some trees not all just dropped their fruit, all this despite it being a good summer weather wise. About January February 2001 Hugh came up with a new combination of reagents which made sense to me so I bought a potentiser and started dowsing weekly to check the potencies. Since then things have been great except for the weather. -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Email.com http://www.email.com/?sr=signup -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
James and Barbara Hedley wrote: Study of the intellectual acuity of the Lievegoods and Kolisko's of this world this does not help us to become conscious participants and living in our environment. And why not? I submit that the insights dowsers acquire from active participation in trying to understand the phenomenal world are as relevant, if not more relevant, as those acquired from reading about someone else's insights. Submitment noted, however is dowsing really active participation or passive response? Certainly reading will get you no where, as so many of our BD ideologs are a testament, but using Koliskos, Peliken or Lievegeods insights as a basis for active observation is a very worthwhile activity, or so it has seemed to me. Your statement saying that I may as well have said, How can any body use Biodynamics without dowsing skills is beyond my comphrehension is a point worthy of discussion. Are you saying that dowsing has no part in understanding what our BD preps are doing, or as a comparative guide to what they are likely to do. Naturally 'use' and 'outcome' depends on the user and so absolutes are difficult here. However there is whole lot of difference between actively participating in a process of cognition through interaction with the environment in many ways, than passively asking your unconscious a yes no answer. You may get an answer but you have not had the soul experience of the journey. Do you 'really know' what the astral body is doing or what it feels like personally or in the earth when it manifests as a groundhog, once you have asked your pendulum for a remedy to rid them? Do you know what the possible side effects of this remedy might be on the people, animals and other plants and what these are going to look like? Use and practise develop 'muscles', imagining excercise does not. As for developing into conscious angels I would rather live in this world right now and evolve as the rest of mankind develops than to try and be the first one there. No future in that. We dont have to change the world , just ourselves. I do not believe I said anything about not living in the present. All humankind have the chance to develop towards being conscious angels. The joke of our present time and situation is that this will not be happening in 4000 years as RS suggested, but quiet possibly by 2025. So the process is on right now for those who want it. RS has pointed out that just as there are folks who make evolutionary jumps, there are folks who are left behind as 'laggard beings'. The choice is yours. Pick up the old atavistic clairvoyance or grow a conscious clairvoyance. RS worked towards the latter and encouraged others to do the same. This is why he bothered to outline the workings of the spiritual activities in the Agriculture lectures and not just tell us about the preps and their use. He hoped we would make use this information as a basis for us to develop a conscious relatonship with them. And I believe we easily can from the base he laid. Just as attending an elementary course such as provided by most BDAs is a start on the road of Steiner Ag, so may dowsing be for some. The trap of both is to stop there and believe 'you have got it'. Dowsing may well be enough to turn a 'BD' buck and there is no shame in that. While I disagree with your suggestion one can not use a field broadcaster without dowsing, as I do, I also appreciate it can be beyond your comphrehension. Glen A James - Original Message - From: Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:26 AM Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI James and Barbara Hedley wrote: How any body can use a field broadcaster without dowsing skills is beyond my comprehension Sincere regards James. Through conscious observation and understanding. Apart from using the BD preps with a good organic practise, BD and Steiners whole thrust for agriculture was for us to be able to consciously live in our environment and act as conscious participants The knowledge and skills for developing this insight are available in the works of people such as Lievegeod, Kolisko, Haushcka, Bohenmuhl, Pelikan and in my own way I have provided the base from which I work in this way. RS suggested the development of these skills are a necessary part of our present evolution process and if we do not take up this challenge to walk across this bridge then all we do is repick up the old ways of prehistory rather than develop into conscious angels. It is yours and each of our choice. The really lucky thing is that it IS possible to be conscious of the spiritual forces in nature and to grow plants accordingly. This is what the Agriculture course is telling us apart from the obvious bits on how to make the preps. This is the REAl challenge I see put before us
Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
James and Barbara Hedley wrote: How any body can use a field broadcaster without dowsing skills is beyond my comprehension Sincere regards James. Through conscious observation and understanding. Nothing personal James but as a good example this statement could also be How can any body use Biodynamics without dowsing skills is beyond my comphrehension Apart from using the BD preps with a good organic practise, BD and Steiners whole thrust for agriculture was for us to be able to consciously live in our environment and act as conscious participants The knowledge and skills for developing this insight are available in the works of people such as Lievegeod, Kolisko, Haushcka, Bohenmuhl, Pelikan and in my own way I have provided the base from which I work in this way. RS suggested the development of these skills are a necessary part of our present evolution process and if we do not take up this challenge to walk across this bridge then all we do is repick up the old ways of prehistory rather than develop into conscious angels. It is yours and each of our choice. The really lucky thing is that it IS possible to be conscious of the spiritual forces in nature and to grow plants accordingly. This is what the Agriculture course is telling us apart from the obvious bits on how to make the preps. This is the REAl challenge I see put before us by Biodynamics. This is also be one of the HUGE differences between the BD buck turners and some other BD practioners. The BDAs seem to have a small appreciation of this need and difference however they do not seem to have or promote the skills necessary to make conscious spiritual perception a every day reality. So they sit on high and isolate quietly. cheers Glen -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
Hugh, Alan, Gil and Chris Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I see the value in Hugh and Alans approaches and will work with them and see what I can do with them. Gils comments on 'unknowing messing around' are true to a point however dowsing and a radionics box could do some wild things. The uniqueness I see is in the original mixing for a specific task. This was a question that needed to be asked publically for the community to consider. While I have made general mixes of things, with our 'personal clients' the mixes are most often specific for the situation, time and weather circumstance. These would be silly to generally copy. I am sure there is a way forward, just in a different direction to that already travelled and that imagined to be travelled. Sounds like another bit of 'life' taking place. cheers Glen Chris Shade wrote: Glen has a good point, and frankly, I was surprised that Allan so openly suggested that. On the flip side, though, most people (who dont' already make some of their own preps), won't be in a position to make good copies of Glen and Greg's potencies. And if radionic theft is the issue, it would have always been the issue with any prep. You just have to figure that your market is those who aren't radionics or homeophath jockeys and who need some good preps. Wishing you market protection and good will from your community, Chris --- Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Balliett wrote: A question I have for everyone is Can't Greg's remedies be readily propagated infinitely? Since they are potentized, are they not now the 'mother' for endless batches of equal remedy? I would think they are, but I'd appreciate insights from you more experienced potentizers. Myself, I assume that once you buy a unit from Greg, if you don't spill it, you need never purchase another, but simply dose your own units from that point on. This does not necessarily hold to be true. Firstly these are compounds which when further potentised can change their effectiveness and secondly potentising develops in waves and so further potentising can indeed make them less effective. We have definitely found that reducing the desired application rate leads to reduced effect. 'Stealing them' thru a radionics device, without changing the potency should work within that sphere I guess. This is an opportune moment to bring a thought to this discussion. With Greg and my potencies ( and thus our lives work) being 'potentially' so easily stolen from us, what incentive is there for us to continue working on furthering preparation applications. Why would we bother? and how are our overheads and life expenses to be covered by the community benefiting so freely from our work? in anticipation of the solution Glen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: future of the bd remedies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is already illegal in Europe to possess the sheath material, USA is just a little behind, when they have to admit the reality of Mad Cow that will be next. Is this not all the more reason potentised preps should be at the top of the list of discussions of BD preps for the future? Glen
Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)
Gil I support your concerns here. The little amount of playing around with my pipe tells me it is a very powerful instrument that can very easily be abused, consciously or unconsciously. And my experiements with the BD preps show me they are also very powerful and can create chaos if used inappropriately. Given that very few people on the planet actually understand the spiritual activity of each of the preps and what they do at various potencies, I am a tad afraid of what this sudden burst of broadcasting of them will ultimately be doing to themselves and every living being in their environment. Given the relatively little ability folk have for viewing life Biodynamically - seeing what the preps do to plants and animals - then they will probably allow any inbalance to perpetuate for much longer than is healthy and so on. So yes highly skilled practitioners are needed for these devices. For many years I was not inclined to spread potentised prep knowledge to BDers as they do not have or seem interested in gaining the skills to use them. The 'cat is out of the bag' though now, so it is better people have access to how to understand them, if they wish, than not. WHich is why I am prepared to travel about the planet showing my basic understanding and making my books and diagrams available for free on the web in the vain hope that they will be read, understood and applied in a manner that can make for conscious preparation usage. Dowsing I am concerned though does not take steps toward conscious understanding, it sets folk free with an inexact technique for diagnosis to apply powerful substances thru a powerful instrument to a wide area of land. Scarey Interestingly there is little chance any form of 'legislation' of this practise will arise soon as this will neccessitate scientific acknowledgment that a highly dilute water sample contained in a closed bottle can influence a simple copper circuit powered by the earth. Yeah right. So folks this is a self regulating society. Do 'we' have the morality to actually learn consciously what we are doing and exercise some level of caution and restraint on its development and distribution or is it every being for themselves regardless of outcome? Glen A Gil Robertson wrote: Hi! Jane, Hugh and the List. I agree with your concerns about some one driving a Cosmic Pipe or other Radionic Device and putting out energy other than that which is desired. I could make your skin crawl with stories about inappropriate use and miss use of these devices. That is one of the reasons that there is specialised knowledge that is not in the public domain. While one can open up a Radionic Instrument or Device and copy it, there are some things that are not apparent, that are unlikely to be observed and the resulting instrument will not be as powerful as is possible. This is an area in which I differ from Hugh. I do not think that devices like his Field Broadcaster should be in the public domain. I think it requires specialist knowledge along with a high degree of responsibility for the resulting broadcast. I note that I do not know of anyone who has actually followed his design to the last turn on a coil. It seems to be human nature to improve things. Every deviation from hugh's design, be it the number of turns, the diameter of a coil or the wire gauge, changes the function of the device. If you have ever built an old style radio, you will know how important this is. When one gets to making Preps and setting the boundary of the broadcast, is where knowledge and taking responsibility really become important. You may be growing a vegetable crop, such as grass to be grazed, and want to pile on nitrogen, but the next farm may be into a fruit crop, if your broadcast trespasses, you could wipe out his income!!! I really think these things should be operated by trained, accredited folk, possibly supplying the service in some form of profit sharing, based on the crop produced above average. Do you demand the right to have access to an operating theatre and doing your own surgery? When you fly between countries, do you insist on sitting up front and driving, while taking an active part in weather prediction and air craft movement control, or do you accept that there are some specialist jobs, better let to others? I am suspicious of radionics or any other medical procedure performed without Love. I assure you that a properly trained Radionic Practitioner works within love. Gil -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Radionics (Drought update)
HUGH wrote.. Yes point taken. In the US the term Biodynamics is owned by an organisation and thus they can define it. Here in NZ it is a generic word and one of its meaning is 'a agricultural system based on the indications of RS'. Which according to my reading allows for all things mentioned. If we - elsewhere in the world- allow it to be defined by the organisiations then thats all it will be, however RS work is so completely wholistic it deserves more than to be left to 'them'. So yes in the US its a dead word and Gils comment stands, elswhere it is what we the practioners make it and the Associations are just monuments to certain individuals egos and near on irrelevant except to a fanatical few. Im for holding the vision of BD as wholistic and continuing on. When in the US I guess I will have to use Quantum Ag or some such term. hum bummer. Glen Hugh Lovel wrote: Gil Robertson wrote: While BD is the best Ag System we have to date. It is at this time, not a complete system. We also have to consider Paramagnetics, water restructuring, mineral balance, clay spreading, gypsum spreading, ameliorating salinity etc. I d like to suggest BD is a complete system and the above are just part of it. Glen Dear Glen, et. al., I might amend that suggestion. If we stick with the nomenclature of BD or biodynamic we have to deal with a long entrenched cult mentality that is close-minded to certain innovations. Despite the work of Lily Kolisko the BD mentality has largely stuck with and insisted upon an antiquated system of stirring and spraying that the vast majority of farmers simply are unable to accomplish. I believe that's the position of the Demeter organizations worldwide. To be certified BD you have to stir each remedy separately for an hour and then spray. You don't do this. Greg doesn't do this. I don't do this. Each in our own ways we use homeopathic potencies and at the very least we combine remedies and eliminate the lengthy stirring process. I'm told here in the states that isn't acceptable for BD certification. And you've seen how the horn manure remedy has been overused, liming has been discouraged, etc. by BD pedagogues. Horn clay is not accepted in orthodox circles here in the states. Radionics is not accepted. Dowsing is given the hex sign by many in the old guard. Somehow rotational grazing and compost tea has slipped past all the censors I'm aware of but I'm not so sure about paramagnetics, water restructuring, cloudbusting, weather patterning, etc. What I'm saying is we can't use the term BD or biodynamic to indicate a complete system way of thinking because the owners of these terms aren't all-embracing enough to let such a thing happen. We may use these terms as all-embracing on our own behalf, but somewhere along the line we will run into flak for it. This gives an appearance to outsiders that, yes, BD is a somewhat narrow cult, and how many are willing to submit to passing the litmus tests for BD certification when these tests are to say the very least arcane? Do you pass the tests in NZ? I don't pass the tests here in the states, I assure you. Shucks. BD has ended up with some all-embracing folks involved in it, I think because one has to be pretty all-embracing to get to BD. But as it stands I think the die-hard BD organizations will never be all-embracing. Best wishes, Hugh -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
Re: Radionics (Drought update)
Gil Robertson wrote: While BD is the best Ag System we have to date. It is at this time, not a complete system. We also have to consider Paramagnetics, water restructuring, mineral balance, clay spreading, gypsum spreading, ameliorating salinity etc. I d like to suggest BD is a complete system and the above are just part of it. Glen
Re: Fwd: Re: ELAINE: BD NOW! What is the future of compost tea?
Allan Balliett wrote: BD preps work the same way, I think. Why? They have the organisms in them that inhibit, compete with and consume the disease-causing organisms. I think we could do alot to making certain that the BD preps work every time if we understood the organisms in the preps better. Just as we have done for compost tea. Elaine How do you explain the success of potentised BD preps as fungal or pest protection when they are firstly in 12% alcohol and diluted to 10X 30??? Whats doing it? Glen Atkinson
Re: Plant brix testing
Hugh Lovel wrote: A good case in point is alfalfa, which is particularly boron sensitive. When deficient its leaves will be deformed, when toxic it's leaves will discolor. Boron deficiency results in 'hollow heart' in many crops, a state occurring more and more often in organic produce in NZ. Glen
