Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Dear Markess, I had put your email away so that I had time to try and digest it and make sense of the data. I dont understand what you are trying to get at or how I could use it in the form that you have written it. For instance what do you mean by this set of potencies, Harmonics - potencies of 1M to 21M * > Amplitude - 6X & 7X > Velocity - 28X & 30X > Mode - 26X 29X 33X 47X 54X 69X 72X 79X > Number - 3X When I understand what you are trying to get at we could discuss the rest of the potencies that you suggest. Have a good day Janmes Hedley - Original Message - From: "Moen Creek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:52 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > Dear Listers, > inspired by > > James Hedley's wonderious post of > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 20:06:39 +1000 > > I looked to a basic level of remedies & potencies. > We're are not reductionest. Potencies are not doing the work but help > balance and organize energy field patterns. To get caught up in a > "misappropriation of cause" is the point of departure between the Vitalist > and the rock hard "scientist". > > When we add a potencized anything to an energy field there are effects & > affects on multiple areas/levels or maybe none at all. But it is an organism > and it's field that is doing the work. > > So what are the aspects these remedies action on fields. Hugh wrote a > Whitman'esk list at one time of field adjustments and variables. I have > followed some with the potencies I "see" as influencing this aspect. > > A field has, > > Hertz > Harmonics - potencies of 1M to 21M * > Amplitude - 6X & 7X > Velocity - 28X & 30X > Mode - 26X 29X 33X 47X 54X 69X 72X 79X > Number - 3X > Periodicity - 200C (rhythmical actions of plants including flowering & > fruiting) > Polarization - 1m - 21M * > Direction - Towards center is 200K - Towards the periphery 1K -100K > > *the differences here is in the handedness of the remedy > Harmonics are adjusted with Left handedness and polarization by Right > handedness > (your input is most welcome as whether this means type ie hamering, shaking > stiring to potencize or what. > For me it is a Radionic rate added to creating the potency > 32.25-51.25 sets it as Left handed > 51.25-32.25 set it as Right > > Fields also have > Flux > Defractions > Reflections > Interactions > Absorption > Synchronicity > Dimensions > can be Conditioned > Activated > and Templated > > What say's you? > > In Love & Light > Markess > > > Dear list, > The problems with the work of Lili and Eugen Kolisko is that all the work > that I have seen never resolved an optimum potency which was common to all > plant or agricultural work. Potentisation rates of homoeopathic remedies is > not an exact science that says that if you use this potency you will get > this result. even amongst homoeopathic chat lists there is no common > acceptance that this , or that potency is better than another, it just that > this person used this remedy at this potency and achieved this result. As a > general rule the greater the similarity to the drug picture the higher > potency that you will use, the smaller the dose the more beneficial the > results. > The potencies for agricultural elimination use will be far different to > those potencies used for enhancing life force. Even potencies are only > really applicable for that particular time in that particular situation.. > The question is what potency will achieve the result that i am looking for > with the minimum amount of substance. > Peter Rheumkoff has removed white ants from a house by broadcasting a pepper > at LMM potency. > (snip) > When you are using spiritual forces to counteract something, the greatest > source of knowledge of the effects of your work will come from the spiritual > realms. Follow your guidance as to what the optimum potency would be. > I have tried at other times to get people on the list to discuss what they > are doing potency wise with their preps. I have used BD preps at potencies > of up to CM [a dilution of 1/1000 done 100 times] with great results. > There are three effective methods of checking potencies: > > 1.] The use of a radionic analysis instrument such as a Don Mattioda or > Malcolm Rae instrument, a Bio Photon instrument, a Bruce Copen or an SE-7 > will all give an automatic reading of potencies.Use of a radionic instrument > will give you an exact potency reading. They will give you a reading of > vitality which you can use to compare the effects of d
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- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Kolisko's work > Again, friends, let's give the bulky book to the Steiner e-lib and > concentrate on the ideas on BD Now! Allan this is a job for someone the has an original copy, thats not me. > > We do not want to post large files to BD Now! because many of the > list members are still on dial-up connections. I see no reason for BD > Now! to maintain the graphs, etc if the Steiner e-lib is willing to > host the entire book. > O K message understood! Sometimes you have to bash me over the head with a brick to get through. Thanks for some direction. Cheers Lloyd Charles >
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Or another solution might be to scan and save it all as a .pdf format publication, which will keep the integrity of the charts, photos etc, and then those needing it can download and print what is needed. I've used a lot of these lately for research...including the 300 page proceedings of the last Organic Viticulture symposium (a paper from Nicholas Joly, and two from Claude Bourguignon in that). Cheers, Geoff Heinricks
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Maybe someone on the list might contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] They provide exactly the type of links Gil suggests (and they go to an Australian library) where long out of print, but useful books are available on the net for personal research. An example The Living Soil, the Earths Green Carpet etc. Maybe worth checking out, or tracing down. Cheers, Geoff Heinricks >Hi! Lloyd, >I am most interested. > >I understand that under Oz Law one can copy up to ten percent of a copyright >work, for personal use or study on any one day and it is then understand >that on >another day one can copy another ten percent etc. I suggest that if the largest >section posted on a site is no more than ten percent and as long as the whole >thing is not on the one site at the same time, there should be no great >problem. >If half was on one site and the rest on an unrelated site, it would be hard to >make a case. > >As you know, we have cheap access to the net here and size is not much problem, >so it would be up to those for whom it is a problem, to speak up. I am sure >Allan knows this sort of detail about those on the list. > >Gil >Lower, Central Oz.
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Hi All, We might just be getting away with ourselves here. For a start, breaking copyright is a serious thing, which has an economic aspect but also an ethical aspect... But we may not need to put the whole book up. Can we just post summaries or quotations of relevant topics - perhaps with a graph or two that needs to be seen by all to sensibly talk on the topic. It's a fat book - lots of repetition - lots of issues and plenty of interesting but speculative musings. Putting the whole thing up may not be necessary. -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi! Graeme, I acknowledge you concern. As a writer who has produced a large amount of original work and not ever received anything that in any way compensates for the time and the effort, I suggest that most of us that produce meaningful texts, do so because we want to get some sort of a message to others and if the writer has an ego like mine, it is as many as possible. I note the copyright is owned by other than the author and while it is fine to hand on some sort of income on to others, it would seem that they are not prepared to spend a portion of that income to ensure the continuance of that income, by reprinting at an affordable price. While I do not advocate the reproduction be at a profit, I see no problem with single copies, at no charge, for persons who want to study it. I am sure the author would be flattered that people in several countries are planning to take a detailed look at the work, all these years after it was current. I think they would be much more pleased with us, than they who have not kept it in print. It is really only fiction that provides an economical return for the writer. I know of no example of a serious writer who can make a real living out of "real, original work" Gil Allan Balliett wrote: > > > >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:52:06 +1000 > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >From: Graeme Gerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Kolisko's work > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > > >Hi All, > >We might just be getting away with ourselves here. For a start, > >breaking copyright is a serious thing, which has an economic aspect > >but also an ethical aspect. I won't go on to spell it out, but leave > >it to be considered by each one. > >But we may not need to put the whole book up. Can we just post > >summaries of relevant topics - perhaps with a graph or two that has > >to be seen by all to sensibly talk on the topic. It's a fat book - > >lots of repetition - lots of issues and plenty of interesting but > >speculative musings. > > > >-- > >Graeme Gerrard > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, Gil, you may be right in your understanding and then again, you might not. The lawyer I talked with is my second son whose first job was with Butterworths, the text editors in Sydney. He now heads a department in the Australian Senate. He says that for all practical purposes in the sort of thing we're discussing here, copyright laws which place restrictions on copying beyond that 'reasonably' needed for research or personal purposes generally have global effect. roger Gil Robertson wrote: >Hi! Lloyd, >I am most interested. > >I understand that under Oz Law one can copy up to ten percent of a copyright >work, for personal use or study on any one day and it is then understand that on >another day one can copy another ten percent etc. I suggest that if the largest >section posted on a site is no more than ten percent and as long as the whole >thing is not on the one site at the same time, there should be no great problem. >If half was on one site and the rest on an unrelated site, it would be hard to >make a case. >
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> >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:52:06 +1000 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Graeme Gerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Kolisko's work >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > >Hi All, >We might just be getting away with ourselves here. For a start, >breaking copyright is a serious thing, which has an economic aspect >but also an ethical aspect. I won't go on to spell it out, but leave >it to be considered by each one. >But we may not need to put the whole book up. Can we just post >summaries of relevant topics - perhaps with a graph or two that has >to be seen by all to sensibly talk on the topic. It's a fat book - >lots of repetition - lots of issues and plenty of interesting but >speculative musings. > >-- >Graeme Gerrard >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Again, friends, let's give the bulky book to the Steiner e-lib and concentrate on the ideas on BD Now! We do not want to post large files to BD Now! because many of the list members are still on dial-up connections. I see no reason for BD Now! to maintain the graphs, etc if the Steiner e-lib is willing to host the entire book.
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Hi! Lloyd, I am most interested. I understand that under Oz Law one can copy up to ten percent of a copyright work, for personal use or study on any one day and it is then understand that on another day one can copy another ten percent etc. I suggest that if the largest section posted on a site is no more than ten percent and as long as the whole thing is not on the one site at the same time, there should be no great problem. If half was on one site and the rest on an unrelated site, it would be hard to make a case. As you know, we have cheap access to the net here and size is not much problem, so it would be up to those for whom it is a problem, to speak up. I am sure Allan knows this sort of detail about those on the list. Gil Lower, Central Oz. Lloyd Charles wrote: > Allan > I am happy to help with this work but need some direction - I have > only a photo copy version of the book - (there are a lot of colour photos in > the original that loose most of their meaning in a b&w copy) - There are > also a lot of graph results of the experiments. I can scan the text onto the > list easy enough but a lot of it is explanation of graphs that I can only > get on as attachments - to discuss this properly I think readers really need > to be able to look at the graphs. Two possibilities - convert the graphs > into lists of numbers, boring for the reader and a lot of work typing, or > scan as attachments send to you and you put them up as officially sanitised > virus free attachments to be downloaded if desired??(this way we also > maintain the format meaning of the text passages) Would this work ?? Also > what is the limit as far as size of quoted material posted - my thinking on > this is if it goes up as complete chunks then readers can download and print > out relevant bits of the book (chapter at a time) whereas if we hack it > around thats not then possible. Is the interest out there to make any of > this worth doing??? > Cheers > Lloyd Charles > > - Original Message - > From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: Kolisko's work > > > I really encourage everyone to eat biodynamically grown food at every > > opportunity. > > > > We have the fellow at the Steiner e-lib willing to publish the book > > on-line, all we have to do is someone the Will forces to get him > > copies of what he needs (Is someone REALLY sending him a photocopy, > > or is this a misunderstanding?) > > > > I don't care if the book gets on-line or not. We can discuss it a > > chapter at a time here on BD Now! and anyone who wants to read the > > whole thing can plumb the archives. > > > > The trend in the US has been to strengthen intellectual property > > rights. As far as I know, copyright on printed matter has been > > extended some ungodly length of time. While it is easy to see this as > > a way of insuring income to the author and his descendents, it is > > also easy to see it as a way of keeping 'dangerous ideas' away from a > > larger audience. > > > > This work, Agriculture of Tomorrow, needs to be read by everyone and > > discussed and re-examined as much as possible. We need to perform > > trials based on the Kolisko's suggestions. > > > > Because, like they say, if the Kolisko's are correct in their > > research, well, then, it makes everything completely different. > > > > What say, my friends? > > > > -Allan > > > > > > >Following is a dialogue with the publisher > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for your information. I had a > > >discreet chat with a copyright lawyer last night, he said whatever > > >you do, do not copy the book as a whole or put it on the web at all. > > >So I think we just have to live with it. > > > > > >Cheers roger > > > > > >** > > > > > >on 14/8/02 11:25 pm, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >Subject: Re: Agriculture of Tommorrow: Kolisko, Eugen > > > > > >> General Manager > > >> Kolisko Archive Publications > > >> > > >> > > >> Dear Sir/Madam, > > >> > > >> Do you have any plans for the reprint of the subject title? In my work > I > > >> am receiving many enquiries for it. > > >> > > >> Kind regards > > >> > > >> > > >> Roger Pye > > >> Earthcare Environmental Solutions > > >> +61 2 6255 3824 > > >> > > >Thank you for tyour enquiry. > > > > > >Yes we are planning a reprint. Time-scale as yet not known. > > > > > >Kind regards, > > > > > > > > >Andrew Clunies-Ross > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Gil Robertson wrote: > > > > > >>Hi! Christy, > > >>I have tried to get an answer from the copyright holder, but they > > >>do not seem to to be able to reply to emails. > > > >
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Allan I am happy to help with this work but need some direction - I have only a photo copy version of the book - (there are a lot of colour photos in the original that loose most of their meaning in a b&w copy) - There are also a lot of graph results of the experiments. I can scan the text onto the list easy enough but a lot of it is explanation of graphs that I can only get on as attachments - to discuss this properly I think readers really need to be able to look at the graphs. Two possibilities - convert the graphs into lists of numbers, boring for the reader and a lot of work typing, or scan as attachments send to you and you put them up as officially sanitised virus free attachments to be downloaded if desired??(this way we also maintain the format meaning of the text passages) Would this work ?? Also what is the limit as far as size of quoted material posted - my thinking on this is if it goes up as complete chunks then readers can download and print out relevant bits of the book (chapter at a time) whereas if we hack it around thats not then possible. Is the interest out there to make any of this worth doing??? Cheers Lloyd Charles - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's work > I really encourage everyone to eat biodynamically grown food at every > opportunity. > > We have the fellow at the Steiner e-lib willing to publish the book > on-line, all we have to do is someone the Will forces to get him > copies of what he needs (Is someone REALLY sending him a photocopy, > or is this a misunderstanding?) > > I don't care if the book gets on-line or not. We can discuss it a > chapter at a time here on BD Now! and anyone who wants to read the > whole thing can plumb the archives. > > The trend in the US has been to strengthen intellectual property > rights. As far as I know, copyright on printed matter has been > extended some ungodly length of time. While it is easy to see this as > a way of insuring income to the author and his descendents, it is > also easy to see it as a way of keeping 'dangerous ideas' away from a > larger audience. > > This work, Agriculture of Tomorrow, needs to be read by everyone and > discussed and re-examined as much as possible. We need to perform > trials based on the Kolisko's suggestions. > > Because, like they say, if the Kolisko's are correct in their > research, well, then, it makes everything completely different. > > What say, my friends? > > -Allan > > > >Following is a dialogue with the publisher > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for your information. I had a > >discreet chat with a copyright lawyer last night, he said whatever > >you do, do not copy the book as a whole or put it on the web at all. > >So I think we just have to live with it. > > > >Cheers roger > > > >** > > > >on 14/8/02 11:25 pm, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >Subject: Re: Agriculture of Tommorrow: Kolisko, Eugen > > > >> General Manager > >> Kolisko Archive Publications > >> > >> > >> Dear Sir/Madam, > >> > >> Do you have any plans for the reprint of the subject title? In my work I > >> am receiving many enquiries for it. > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> > >> Roger Pye > >> Earthcare Environmental Solutions > >> +61 2 6255 3824 > >> > >Thank you for tyour enquiry. > > > >Yes we are planning a reprint. Time-scale as yet not known. > > > >Kind regards, > > > > > >Andrew Clunies-Ross > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Gil Robertson wrote: > > > >>Hi! Christy, > >>I have tried to get an answer from the copyright holder, but they > >>do not seem to to be able to reply to emails. > >
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I really encourage everyone to eat biodynamically grown food at every opportunity. We have the fellow at the Steiner e-lib willing to publish the book on-line, all we have to do is someone the Will forces to get him copies of what he needs (Is someone REALLY sending him a photocopy, or is this a misunderstanding?) I don't care if the book gets on-line or not. We can discuss it a chapter at a time here on BD Now! and anyone who wants to read the whole thing can plumb the archives. The trend in the US has been to strengthen intellectual property rights. As far as I know, copyright on printed matter has been extended some ungodly length of time. While it is easy to see this as a way of insuring income to the author and his descendents, it is also easy to see it as a way of keeping 'dangerous ideas' away from a larger audience. This work, Agriculture of Tomorrow, needs to be read by everyone and discussed and re-examined as much as possible. We need to perform trials based on the Kolisko's suggestions. Because, like they say, if the Kolisko's are correct in their research, well, then, it makes everything completely different. What say, my friends? -Allan >Following is a dialogue with the publisher ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for your information. I had a >discreet chat with a copyright lawyer last night, he said whatever >you do, do not copy the book as a whole or put it on the web at all. >So I think we just have to live with it. > >Cheers roger > >** > >on 14/8/02 11:25 pm, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Subject: Re: Agriculture of Tommorrow: Kolisko, Eugen > >> General Manager >> Kolisko Archive Publications >> >> >> Dear Sir/Madam, >> >> Do you have any plans for the reprint of the subject title? In my work I >> am receiving many enquiries for it. >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> Roger Pye >> Earthcare Environmental Solutions >> +61 2 6255 3824 >> >Thank you for tyour enquiry. > >Yes we are planning a reprint. Time-scale as yet not known. > >Kind regards, > > >Andrew Clunies-Ross > > > > > > >Gil Robertson wrote: > >>Hi! Christy, >>I have tried to get an answer from the copyright holder, but they >>do not seem to to be able to reply to emails.
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I just got this back:- Gil From: Andrew Clunies-Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9:42 Subject: Re: Hi! from Australia To: Gil Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/8/02 2:06 am, Gil Robertson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi! > I am interested in obtaining "Agriculture of tomorrow" in some form. > > I am a member of a Biodynamic internet list and a number of others are > also interested. > > I note that you list it as out of print. > > Is there an intention to publish it again in the foreseeable future? > > Gil Robertson > Port Lincoln > Australia > Thamk you for your enquiry. Yes a reptinty is planned. Time-scale as yet not known. Kind regards, Andrew Clunies-Ross Christy Korrow wrote: Who is it? Maybe I can help. ... - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:21 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's work Hi! Christy, I have tried to get an answer from the copyright holder, but they do not seem to to be able to reply to emails. Gil Christy Korrow wrote: I would commit to some scanning, especially this winter, and maybe even have access to a copy of the book. I don't have my own copy, and have dreamt of a reprint. Who ever is organizing this could contact me off list. Christy
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Following is a dialogue with the publisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for your information. I had a discreet chat with a copyright lawyer last night, he said whatever you do, do not copy the book as a whole or put it on the web at all. So I think we just have to live with it. Cheers roger ** on 14/8/02 11:25 pm, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Agriculture of Tommorrow: Kolisko, Eugen > General Manager > Kolisko Archive Publications > > > Dear Sir/Madam, > > Do you have any plans for the reprint of the subject title? In my work I > am receiving many enquiries for it. > > Kind regards > > > Roger Pye > Earthcare Environmental Solutions > +61 2 6255 3824 > Thank you for tyour enquiry. Yes we are planning a reprint. Time-scale as yet not known. Kind regards, Andrew Clunies-Ross Gil Robertson wrote: > Hi! Christy, > I have tried to get an answer from the copyright holder, but they do > not seem to to be able to reply to emails.
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Who is it? Maybe I can help. ... - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:21 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's work Hi! Christy, I have tried to get an answer from the copyright holder, but they do not seem to to be able to reply to emails. Gil Christy Korrow wrote: I would commit to some scanning, especially this winter, and maybe even have access to a copy of the book. I don't have my own copy, and have dreamt of a reprint. Who ever is organizing this could contact me off list. Christy
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Hi! Christy, I have tried to get an answer from the copyright holder, but they do not seem to to be able to reply to emails. Gil Christy Korrow wrote: I would commit to some scanning, especially this winter, and maybe even have access to a copy of the book. I don't have my own copy, and have dreamt of a reprint. Who ever is organizing this could contact me off list. Christy
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I would commit to some scanning, especially this winter, and maybe even have access to a copy of the book. I don't have my own copy, and have dreamt of a reprint. Who ever is organizing this could contact me off list. Christy - Original Message - From: Dave Robison To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: Kolisko's work At 12:00 PM 8/13/02 -0400, Teresa wrote: I have a copy of this book but I'm in the UK so the best would be for me to scan it when I can get to a scanner for an hour or three.This is a nice offer but the book is large, with many graphics, including some chromas in color. So scanning would be a major task. I think it would be great if someone wants to undertake the task, but it will be a lot of work.I have the book too, maybe we could share some of the scanning or proofing tasks. Anyone else interested in piecing out the work? ==Dave Robison
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>The book is 426 pages, I think. It's worth thinking about. So you are talking about looking at pictures of the pages? What would the resolution be and wouldn't there be distortion from center to edge? -Allan
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Dear Dave, Alan and ? I emailed James Stewart, who volunteered to put the book on the anthroposophy archive. This is his reply: "Thank you, Teresa. I believe someone in the US is mailing a xerox copy of the book -- I do not know how well it will scan, though. If you have access to a scanner and could scan the book -- cover, cover sheet, contents, etc. -- that would really help. That way, you can keep the book, save mailing costs, and use email to send the scanned output. If you do not have text-recognition software, just send the scanned *.tiff images of the cover, pages, etc. Send them 1 page per email message (they will be big files) as an attachment. The email address to send them to is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The person that posted the message on your mailing list used the wrong address for communications. I have all of the necessary software to break the images you send apart into text and graphics, if any!? Actually, the *.tiff images would be best, as I would have a copy of the book to proof the text. Proofing is the most time-consuming part of what I do, and there are always mistakes. Even after having 3 or 4 people go over the text, a user will find something we missed. And then, I will find something the user missed, in the same sentence! That has happened many times." I agree that the job is a lot of work and it would be good to split it up. Is there anyone else out there with a copy who'd do some? Provisionally, I'll agree to do Part I and up to Ch. V of Part II - that's 100 pages of a 424 page book. By the way, my edition is dated 1946 - at least that's the latest date in it, at the end of Concluding Note, before the index. There's no published date at the beginning. Don't know if later editions differ much. Are your copies the same edition? Anyway, I'll see how quickly it goes when I get started - probably in a few days. Teresa >This is a nice offer but the book is large, with many graphics, including >some chromas in color. So scanning would be a major task. I think it would >be great if someone wants to undertake the task, but it will be a lot of >work. >I have the book too, maybe we could share some of the scanning or proofing >tasks. Anyone else interested in piecing out the work? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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Dave Robison wrote: > At 12:00 PM 8/13/02 -0400, Teresa wrote: > >> I have a copy of this book but I'm in the UK so the best would be for >> me to scan it when I can get to a scanner for an hour or three. > > > This is a nice offer but the book is large, with many graphics, > including some chromas in color. So scanning would be a major task. I > think it would be great if someone wants to undertake the task, but it > will be a lot of work. > I have the book too, maybe we could share some of the scanning or > proofing tasks. Anyone else interested in piecing out the work? > One of the things I do to earn a crust is digitally photograph farming landscapes, properties and projects and put the images on CD so people are able to see the effects of changes in management techniques on an ongoing basis. Of course, I do it for other purposes as well; I recently photographed over 400 fireworks (in unexploded form!) individually and in close-up for a retailer who had to provide images of his stock to satisfy government regulations. A big job, you might think. Not really - it took longer to a) design and make a jig to hold each firework in the required position regardless of its size or shape and at the right height, b) make a second jig for the camera so it was at the same height and a specified distance away, and c) cart the fireworks in and out of the room. I used a Kodak DC3800 with a 64Mb picture card which holds up to 200 high resolution photos. The actual photography (stepping up to the camera, 'sighting' the firework to confirm the shot, pressing the button and moving away again) took about 2 and a half hours. A photo of a page is taken in seconds as opposed to a scan which may take minutes unless the setup is expensively professional, and uploading to computer is instant. The output would be in graphic format thus capable of being manipulated to enhance clarity, could be left in image form or put into a document using a a word-processor such as Word. I imagine that as images, the whole book could be loaded on to a website as 'thumbnails' thereby taking up a minimum of band-width whilst being accessible to all members. Or it could be put on to CD and circulated like that. The book is 426 pages, I think. It's worth thinking about. Roger
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>This is a nice offer but the book is large, with many graphics, >including some chromas in color. So scanning would be a major task. >I think it would be great if someone wants to undertake the task, >but it will be a lot of work. >I have the book too, maybe we could share some of the scanning or >proofing tasks. Anyone else interested in piecing out the work? > >== >Dave Robison I'm happy to be involved. Of course, I've already done several chapters. Graphs, etc, of course, could be gifs that are linked to within the text or everything could be laid out in-line via html, with the tables, etc, graphics rather than text. -Allan
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At 12:00 PM 8/13/02 -0400, Teresa wrote: I have a copy of this book but I'm in the UK so the best would be for me to scan it when I can get to a scanner for an hour or three. This is a nice offer but the book is large, with many graphics, including some chromas in color. So scanning would be a major task. I think it would be great if someone wants to undertake the task, but it will be a lot of work. I have the book too, maybe we could share some of the scanning or proofing tasks. Anyone else interested in piecing out the work? == Dave Robison
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I have a copy of this book but I'm in the UK so the best would be for me to scan it when I can get to a scanner for an hour or three. That's if someone else hasn't already offered. Warm regards Teresa Seed >From: Deborah Byron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Kolisko's work >Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:36:21 -0500 > >James Stewart, who heads up the Rudolf Steiner Archives, has kindly said >he's willing to post the Kolisko book on his website for everyone's >benefit if someone will scan the book or copy it. In either case, he >will need a copy of the book for proofing. If anyone is willing to help >with this, his contact information is: > > the URL: >http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/BalWorld/BalWld_index.html > >and James' email address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Best, >Deborah _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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I imagine they are single copies available at stores which are linked to the Country Bookshop. When such a book is purchased by an online shopper, the online agency pays and notifies the subscriber bookstore which then forwards the book to the buyer. That is how amazon.com operates. roger Allan Balliett wrote: > Please keep me posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the avail. of this title from > these folk. My biggest question: do they have 1 copy each or do they > have stock? -Allan > >> Agriculture of Tomorrow is available in paperback 1982 ed for 8 >> pounds 50 (uk) and original hardback ed 1978 for 35 pounds (uk) from >> from the Country Bookshop online bookstore. To access the bookstore >> go to >> >> http://www.buy-a-book-online.com/home.htm >> >> the country bookstore link is near the bottom of the page. >> >> roger > > > >
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Replying to myself, I have had another try and it looks ot be working now and they will seem to have stock. Gil Gil Robertson wrote: > Hi! Allan, > I tried to order the paper back and the site would not take the order, > so do not know if this is their way of saying they have no stock. Tried > several times and just could not get it to work. > > Gil > > Allan Balliett wrote: > > > Please keep me posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the avail. of this title from > > these folk. My biggest question: do they have 1 copy each or do they > > have stock? -Allan
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
At this stage they can't answer an email asking if they intend to reprint. It may be too complicated for them. Gil Peter Michael Bacchus wrote: > > ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get > permission > I'm quite sure this could be negotiated with the Kolisko's trust. It may > cost a few U.S.$ but that would be recouped after printing. > Peter.
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Hi! Allan, I tried to order the paper back and the site would not take the order, so do not know if this is their way of saying they have no stock. Tried several times and just could not get it to work. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: > Please keep me posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the avail. of this title from > these folk. My biggest question: do they have 1 copy each or do they > have stock? -Allan
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Please keep me posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the avail. of this title from these folk. My biggest question: do they have 1 copy each or do they have stock? -Allan >Agriculture of Tomorrow is available in paperback 1982 ed for 8 >pounds 50 (uk) and original hardback ed 1978 for 35 pounds (uk) >from from the Country Bookshop online bookstore. To access the >bookstore go to > >http://www.buy-a-book-online.com/home.htm > >the country bookstore link is near the bottom of the page. > >roger
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. > > Ironically, here in the US, a homeopathic pharmacy cannot potentize a > substance for me without a doctor's prescription (!) Is it legal for you to import homeopthically prepared substances? Peter.
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> ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get permission I'm quite sure this could be negotiated with the Kolisko's trust. It may cost a few U.S.$ but that would be recouped after printing. Peter.
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Agriculture of Tomorrow is available in paperback 1982 ed for 8 pounds 50 (uk) and original hardback ed 1978 for 35 pounds (uk) from from the Country Bookshop online bookstore. To access the bookstore go to http://www.buy-a-book-online.com/home.htm the country bookstore link is near the bottom of the page. roger
Re: Let's Get On With It! [was: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
- Original Message - From: Aurora Farm > You guys...why are you worrying about this. A bunch of BD freaks on an > email list share a long out of date, obscure, long out of print > book...Fragments of it at a time. Big deal! Information wants to be > free...the slogan rings true here. Let's get on with it and discuss it. > I've been curious about Koliskos' work for many years, with no way to find > out about it. Hooray to Lloyd for having the guts to put it out there for > us. > Woody Thanks Woody but Allan should get all the credit for this - he started it many months ago
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If someone is going to post Kolisko on the web, maybe they would consider putting it on Steve Solomon's Soil and Health Library - http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/01aglibwelcome.html This has an excellent full-length collection of classic agricultural tracts, from Cato through Albert Howard, Eve Balfour and Koepf to William Albrecht, all available for download. (Masaonbu Fukuoka is there, too, but only a taste). If spreading the BD word is a priority, then it would seem sensible to make Kolisko available to all on a public site. (That said, the web is no replacement for some old, battered book with someone else's notes in the margin ...) Matt On 10/08/2002 at 8:57 PM Allan Balliett wrote: >>Allan: Sorry mate I thought it was an advertisement for your conference. >>Agriculture of Tomorrow is obviously a book relevant to where some BD >>practitioners are heading, does anyone know who we can approach to have it >>reprinted? >>David C > >David - Do you need to 'own it,' or would you like to discuss it? If >there are people interested in discussing it, I don't mind posting >exerpts of it to the list. No point, though, if no one is interested. > >-Allan *END**
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Dear Alan, Could the publisher put it on the web as an eBook. James - Original Message - From: "Gil Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > Hi! Allan, > >From what you say and from my look around the 'Net, it would seem that Kolisko's > Agriclture of Tomorrow, is a work that would be good for us to work through as a > group. It would seem that it is out of print, with the last publisher list it out > of print. (At forty seven Pound fifty!!!). > > Could it be scanned and put on a Site, in whole or in part? And then at a time > convenient to the leaders on the list, have some sort of protracted examination of > the potency part at least. I think it would be good if as many as possible trialed > the same potencies of our stock Preps and Cures and then posted our results so > that as a group, we can build up a greater understanding of this very important > aspect of homoeopathy and in our case, those potenising sprays and Preps for > broadcasting. > > Gil > > Allan Balliett wrote: > > > I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest > > in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their > > monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. > > > > Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. > > > > Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, > > which was initially directed by RS himself? > > > > -Allan > >
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Dear list, The problems with the work of Lili and Eugen Kolisko is that all the work that I have seen never resolved an optimum potency which was common to all plant or agricultural work. Potentisation rates of homoeopathic remedies is not an exact science that says that if you use this potency you will get this result. even amongst homoeopathic chat lists there is no common acceptance that this , or that potency is better than another, it just that this person used this remedy at this potency and achieved this result. As a general rule the greater the similarity to the drug picture the higher potency that you will use, the smaller the dose the more beneficial the results. The potencies for agricultural elimination use will be far different to those potencies used for enhancing life force. Even potencies are only really applicable for that particular time in that particular situation.. The question is what potency will achieve the result that i am looking for with the minimum amount of substance. Peter Rheumkoff has removed white ants from a house by broadcasting a pepper at LMM potency. The use of homoeopathic dose in large scale agricultural applications has only really become possible with the development of modern radionic instruments. It is one thing to do pot trials, another to work over the vastness of some of Australia's cattle and sheep country. Just try the logistics of stirring and applying preps over 500,000 acres as some BD practitioners do in Australia. When you are using spiritual forces to counteract something, the greatest source of knowledge of the effects of your work will come from the spiritual realms. Follow your guidance as to what the optimum potency would be. I have tried at other times to get people on the list to discuss what they are doing potency wise with their preps. I have used BD preps at potencies of up to CM [a dilution of 1/1000 done 100 times] with great results. There are three effective methods of checking potencies: 1.] The use of a radionic analysis instrument such as a Don Mattioda or Malcolm Rae instrument, a Bio Photon instrument, a Bruce Copen or an SE-7 will all give an automatic reading of potencies.Use of a radionic instrument will give you an exact potency reading. They will give you a reading of vitality which you can use to compare the effects of different potencies or treatment options. 2.] The use of a refractometer to test the effects of what you are doing. This method is promoted by people such as Arden Andersen and Phillip Wheeler 3.] The use of dowsing. As accurate as any radionic instrument. Any one in Australia who is interested in Agricultural radionics can come to one of my courses, where I cover techniques of dowsing and radionics suitable for agricultural appplications. The use of any one of these techiques have been discussed at length in the list over a period of time. In many cases the correct rate, or alternatively potency rate could be the subject of intellectual property which someone may not want to give out. Just write to Glen and ask for how he makes his remedies. Even if he did tell you everything that he has learnt from his experience you would still not have that innate grasp of homoeopathy that comes from experience. Potentisation can never be a cook book science. You will develop a feel for the essence of what you are trying to do, the next thing is to experiment in the same way as the Kolisko's did. There is never an easy way of gaining knowledge. Second hand knowledge without a feel for the subject can lead many a person into strife because the experimenter can affect the outcome of the experiment. I hope that this post will stimulate some discussion of methods and techniques of agricultural radionics. Sincere regards from the "Land of the Wizards of Oz" James Hedley. Radiasesthesia and Radionic Analysis Radionic Insect and Parasite control Bioethical Agriculture Consultant - Original Message - From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:40 PM Subject: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest > in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their > monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. > > Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. > > Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, > which was initially directed by RS himself? > > -Allan > > > >>About eight or ten years ago, I heard a talk by an agricultural > >>homoeopath, who > >>stated some potencies sedated, while others stimulated, some are life > >>supporting and some are life suppressing. I can't find my notes at the moment > >>and I wondered if you had come across this or found it in the work you have > >>done. I am conce
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Dear Alan, Count me in also for discussion of Kolisko's work. James - Original Message - From: "Gil Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > Hi! Allan, > While you were posting this, I was posting to ask you to do just that. > > So count me in as one. > > Gil > > Allan Balliett wrote: > > > >Allan: Sorry mate I thought it was an advertisement for your conference. > > >Agriculture of Tomorrow is obviously a book relevant to where some BD > > >practitioners are heading, does anyone know who we can approach to have it > > >reprinted? > > >David C > > > > David - Do you need to 'own it,' or would you like to discuss it? If > > there are people interested in discussing it, I don't mind posting > > exerpts of it to the list. No point, though, if no one is interested. > > > > -Allan > >
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Hi! Allan, I emailed the copy right holder asking what plans there are for reprinting, saying that there would be a number on this list interested. Yet to hear back. If they say they have no plans to print it, may be it could be placed on the 'Net as an Ebook for single down load for personal use? Gil Allan Balliett wrote: > >Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses > >from 1978 to now its not our fault! > > how can we find out about this?
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James Stewart, who heads up the Rudolf Steiner Archives, has kindly said he's willing to post the Kolisko book on his website for everyone's benefit if someone will scan the book or copy it. In either case, he will need a copy of the book for proofing. If anyone is willing to help with this, his contact information is: the URL: http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/BalWorld/BalWld_index.html and James' email address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Best, Deborah
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
- Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 11, 2002 5:28 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > The copyright of the book is owned by 'Kolisko Archive Publications'> which is an English organization.>> Perhaps someone could tell the history of Kolisko's work and the> history of this book's publication for David.Allan I have sent David directions where he can borrow a copy of Agricultureof TomorrowLloyd Charles>> ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could getpermission>Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expensesfrom 1978 to now its not our fault!
Let's Get On With It! [was: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
You guys...why are you worrying about this. A bunch of BD freaks on an email list share a long out of date, obscure, long out of print book...Fragments of it at a time. Big deal! Information wants to be free...the slogan rings true here. Let's get on with it and discuss it. I've been curious about Koliskos' work for many years, with no way to find out about it. Hooray to Lloyd for having the guts to put it out there for us. Woody Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies >>Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses >>from 1978 to now its not our fault! > >how can we find out about this? > >
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
>Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses >from 1978 to now its not our fault! how can we find out about this?
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> The copyright of the book is owned by 'Kolisko Archive Publications' > which is an English organization. > > Perhaps someone could tell the history of Kolisko's work and the > history of this book's publication for David. Allan I have sent David directions where he can borrow a copy of Agriculture of Tomorrow Lloyd Charles > > ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get permission > Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses from 1978 to now its not our fault!
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>Allan: I would like to do both things, I feel to discuss a book one needs to >read the book, I repeat the question. Does anyone know who to approach to >have it reprinted? If you have a copy who printed it? >I appreciate you going to the trouble of sending excerpts but I would really >like to be able to study the whole book, I feel it would be of great use to >those of us using potentised preps. >I believe in going to the source if you want something to happen. >David C The copyright of the book is owned by 'Kolisko Archive Publications' which is an English organization. Perhaps someone could tell the history of Kolisko's work and the history of this book's publication for David. ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get permission
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Allan: I would like to do both things, I feel to discuss a book one needs to read the book, I repeat the question. Does anyone know who to approach to have it reprinted? If you have a copy who printed it? I appreciate you going to the trouble of sending excerpts but I would really like to be able to study the whole book, I feel it would be of great use to those of us using potentised preps. I believe in going to the source if you want something to happen. David C > David - Do you need to 'own it,' or would you like to discuss it? If > there are people interested in discussing it, I don't mind posting > exerpts of it to the list. No point, though, if no one is interested. > > -Allan
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hi allen, lightning struck here in the process of bringing a bit of rain,and also blitzed the computer connection,so i've been unconnected. I'd always have heard about Kolisko but never read the work, barely having a handle on all the other bd related reading. Not everyone is at the same place and it helps to explain and introduce things, if you want a response. If the book is unavailable ,how can you read or discuss it. seems like I'm a kindergartner amongst the high school kids! but, i am interested in learning more if you are able to access it. count me in as 1 interested person. :)Sharon - Original Message - From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 6:40 AM Subject: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest > in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their > monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. > > Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. > > Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, > which was initially directed by RS himself? > > -Allan > > > >>About eight or ten years ago, I heard a talk by an agricultural > >>homoeopath, who > >>stated some potencies sedated, while others stimulated, some are life > >>supporting and some are life suppressing. I can't find my notes at the moment > >>and I wondered if you had come across this or found it in the work you have > >>done. I am concerned that some of us armed with only part knowledge, may be > >>using potencies that have an effect other than the one we are aiming to have. > > > >Gil - The Kolisko's tracked this information and reported it in > >AGRICULTURE of TOMORROW, which, unfortunately, is out of print. What > >you say is correct: one potency may do wonders and the next 'higher' > >may do almost the opposite. Potentization, for the practical farmer, > >is something you want to know a lot about before you start using it > >on your crop lands or pastures. > > > >I was posting some of this this information to BD Now! last year, > >but the apparent lack of interest didn't make it seem worth the > >effort(s). > > > >For those in North America who want an introduction to potentization > >from an experienced practitioner, don't miss Glen Atkinson at the > >Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference on Oct 4-6 of > >this year or his workshop later in the month in Northen California. > > > >-Allan > > >
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Dear Allan, Please publish as much as you like on the list. We can't get the book but it has passed once through this house. Barbara Hedley - Original Message - From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > >Allan: Sorry mate I thought it was an advertisement for your conference. > >Agriculture of Tomorrow is obviously a book relevant to where some BD > >practitioners are heading, does anyone know who we can approach to have it > >reprinted? > >David C > > David - Do you need to 'own it,' or would you like to discuss it? If > there are people interested in discussing it, I don't mind posting > exerpts of it to the list. No point, though, if no one is interested. > > -Allan > > >
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Hi! Allan, While you were posting this, I was posting to ask you to do just that. So count me in as one. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: > >Allan: Sorry mate I thought it was an advertisement for your conference. > >Agriculture of Tomorrow is obviously a book relevant to where some BD > >practitioners are heading, does anyone know who we can approach to have it > >reprinted? > >David C > > David - Do you need to 'own it,' or would you like to discuss it? If > there are people interested in discussing it, I don't mind posting > exerpts of it to the list. No point, though, if no one is interested. > > -Allan
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Hi! Allan, >From what you say and from my look around the 'Net, it would seem that Kolisko's Agriclture of Tomorrow, is a work that would be good for us to work through as a group. It would seem that it is out of print, with the last publisher list it out of print. (At forty seven Pound fifty!!!). Could it be scanned and put on a Site, in whole or in part? And then at a time convenient to the leaders on the list, have some sort of protracted examination of the potency part at least. I think it would be good if as many as possible trialed the same potencies of our stock Preps and Cures and then posted our results so that as a group, we can build up a greater understanding of this very important aspect of homoeopathy and in our case, those potenising sprays and Preps for broadcasting. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: > I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest > in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their > monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. > > Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. > > Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, > which was initially directed by RS himself? > > -Allan
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>What I think we really need is a forum / discussion led >by Hugh Lovel and Glen Atkinson on this subject as it is at the stage now >where a lot of people (myself included) are trying to use potentised >remedies in various forms with no clear direction as to the outcome. I refer >often to the Kolisko book and the work of Maria Thun and I dowse for what to >do but thats all I have got! This 'forum' is what we are setting up at the Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference. We have homeopath Will Winter and the Merlin of JPI, Hugh Courtney on hand, as well as Glen and Hugh. The discussion should become very interesting, I would think. In a different fashion, James DeMeo will certainly have contributions to make to this mix. As far as making recordings of the conference, we try to every year but we have never succeeded. Every year, for one reson or another, there are no tapes at the end of the weekend. But don't worry, Lloyd, I'm going to try to learn as much as I can and I'll be happy to share it with you! -Allan
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>Just because you got no response does not necessarily >mean it was a waste of time - the digestive process in some of us is a bit >slow sometimes. I'd have to disagree. If our efforts are not igniting sparks strong enough to return a little energy, I think our efforts are best put to other uses. I don't mind playing Prometheus for you folks, but I'm starting to feel like I'm co-dependent with harpies sometimes. For your deeper homeopathic under standings, read the writings of Hahnemann, the final edition of the Organon being a great place o start. I love this version: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1889613002/qid=1029027762/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/002-4532307-9090413 The is also a homeopathic pharmacopia (?) that provides recipes for most remedies and gives the principles behind potentizing most things. Ironically, here in the US, a homeopathic pharmacy cannot potentize a substance for me without a doctor's prescription (!)
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>Allan: Sorry mate I thought it was an advertisement for your conference. >Agriculture of Tomorrow is obviously a book relevant to where some BD >practitioners are heading, does anyone know who we can approach to have it >reprinted? >David C David - Do you need to 'own it,' or would you like to discuss it? If there are people interested in discussing it, I don't mind posting exerpts of it to the list. No point, though, if no one is interested. -Allan
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From: Allan Balliett Subject: Kolisko's Work > I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest > in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their > monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. > > Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. > > Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, > which was initially directed by RS himself? > -Allan > Dear Allan Don't quit. This is important stuff! I have a photo copy of this book that I did two years ago. There are two copies of it available from the public library system for all of Australia! Just because you got no response does not necessarily mean it was a waste of time - the digestive process in some of us is a bit slow sometimes. What I think we really need is a forum / discussion led by Hugh Lovel and Glen Atkinson on this subject as it is at the stage now where a lot of people (myself included) are trying to use potentised remedies in various forms with no clear direction as to the outcome. I refer often to the Kolisko book and the work of Maria Thun and I dowse for what to do but thats all I have got! I have a couple of Questions that might start the ball rolling 1. The BD preps / Steiner remedies are special and probably work to a different set of rules to normal homeopathy? 2. Potentised usage of more normal materials (including the usual homeopathics) has a basic set of rules, that are already known by accomplished homeopaths, and need to be circulated on this list? Maybe we can get this one going properly when you guys go into winter and have some more time? Thanks for the reminder Lloyd Charles PS will you have audio tapes from the conference available for sale??
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Allan: Sorry mate I thought it was an advertisement for your conference. Agriculture of Tomorrow is obviously a book relevant to where some BD practitioners are heading, does anyone know who we can approach to have it reprinted? David C - Original Message - From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2002 8:40 PM Subject: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies > I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest > in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their > monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. > > Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. > > Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, > which was initially directed by RS himself? > > -Allan > > > >>About eight or ten years ago, I heard a talk by an agricultural > >>homoeopath, who > >>stated some potencies sedated, while others stimulated, some are life > >>supporting and some are life suppressing. I can't find my notes at the moment > >>and I wondered if you had come across this or found it in the work you have > >>done. I am concerned that some of us armed with only part knowledge, may be > >>using potencies that have an effect other than the one we are aiming to have. > > > >Gil - The Kolisko's tracked this information and reported it in > >AGRICULTURE of TOMORROW, which, unfortunately, is out of print. What > >you say is correct: one potency may do wonders and the next 'higher' > >may do almost the opposite. Potentization, for the practical farmer, > >is something you want to know a lot about before you start using it > >on your crop lands or pastures. > > > >I was posting some of this this information to BD Now! last year, > >but the apparent lack of interest didn't make it seem worth the > >effort(s). > > > >For those in North America who want an introduction to potentization > >from an experienced practitioner, don't miss Glen Atkinson at the > >Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference on Oct 4-6 of > >this year or his workshop later in the month in Northen California. > > > >-Allan > >
Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, which was initially directed by RS himself? -Allan >>About eight or ten years ago, I heard a talk by an agricultural >>homoeopath, who >>stated some potencies sedated, while others stimulated, some are life >>supporting and some are life suppressing. I can't find my notes at the moment >>and I wondered if you had come across this or found it in the work you have >>done. I am concerned that some of us armed with only part knowledge, may be >>using potencies that have an effect other than the one we are aiming to have. > >Gil - The Kolisko's tracked this information and reported it in >AGRICULTURE of TOMORROW, which, unfortunately, is out of print. What >you say is correct: one potency may do wonders and the next 'higher' >may do almost the opposite. Potentization, for the practical farmer, >is something you want to know a lot about before you start using it >on your crop lands or pastures. > >I was posting some of this this information to BD Now! last year, >but the apparent lack of interest didn't make it seem worth the >effort(s). > >For those in North America who want an introduction to potentization >from an experienced practitioner, don't miss Glen Atkinson at the >Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference on Oct 4-6 of >this year or his workshop later in the month in Northen California. > >-Allan
