Re: Ashing
Sorry about not picking up as a joke. I agree that humour is the best medicine and one does not need a prescription and seldom does one die of an over dose. Why I made the point was because I once helped a guy do some peppering, the timeing and process were meticulously correct yet those little animals took not a blind bit of notice. All the way through the process feelings of hate and worse were expressed. Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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<> And also as a relief when a cash crop, or food we are depending on in the garden is systematically being destroyed by the little buggers. Christy ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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I'm sorry you found my attempt at humor offensive. It was not meant that way...not to you, and certainly not to the beings, material or spiritual. I do, however, find humor to be a welcome foil to sanctimonious seriousness often found when esoteric matters are discussed. -SPeter Michael Bacchus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: even before you toast the little buggers. My experience has shown that making derogotive statments or thinking negetive thoughts about the organism to be treated is unhelpful. One is afterall communicating with their guiding being or Deva. How do you react when others ask you to do something after saying unpleasant things about you? Regards, Peter.___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Ashing and potentisation
James I would be interested in reading the paper Louise - Original Message - From: James Hedley To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Ashing and potentisation Dear Allan,Ashing is effective without having to potentise if you have enough material to spread. But when you wind up with a small amount of material and a large area to cover, potentisation is the only way to go. You have to collect a huge amount of aphids to pepper 50 acres of cabbage if you are going to try spreading it by hand. Equally difficult is to try and mix 25000 gallons of a pepper to be sprayed out by plane. That is the stage where we are with potentisation of peppers.The technique of ashing is proving effective in trials of large-scale weed and rabbit control. It is not possible to emphatically claim that it is the potentisation of the sum pattern of all the minerals, which makes the peppers effective, as it is equally impossible to emphatically declare how homeopathy works.Many researchers, veterinarians and farmers have shown that agricultural homeopathy is extremely effective. We don't have to reinvent the wheel. Why choose to go down the path of making things more difficult when potentisation has shown the substances to be as the term implies, they are more potent. What seems to be the problem is that many people have a resistance to using Radionic instruments in their farming. In the USA this resistance may derive from the persecution of Ruth Drown, and many others. You can bet that when the FDA is persecuting you that you have made it. Maybe there is hope for you farmers in America according to the results of an investigation by a panel of experts from the American Medical Association. The members of the panel have issued a paper that found that if you rebrand Radionics as Bio electromagnetism then the 100,000 illegal practitioners of radionics could be made legal because they are no longer using it. The name will be changed then it will be leading cutting edge in the USA. The panel found that there was irrefutable proof of the effectiveness of radionics. The paper tried to ascertain how Radionics worked, but it found that as 'Bio electromagnetism' it could be explained in existing physics. If there is anyone interested in the paper if you contact me off list I will send a copy, as it is about 20 pages. The panel consisted of both alternatives and Medical practitioners.James Hedley-Original Message-From: Allan Balliett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 26 May 2003 1:17 PMTo: Biodynamic Food and Farming DiscussionSubject: Re: Potentizing & Diluting Peppers> > On the physical>> level, Peppers work with the mineral of a substance, which are>> accessed by ashing.>I think Allan probably meant something different to what I have read into>this - but here goes anyway.Thanks for pointing out the discrepancies here, Lloyd.early on in my readings of AGRICULTURE it was drawn to my attentionthat peppering had long been a 'standard homeopathic practice.' Thehomeopaths who introduced me to this practice essentially said thatit works through the potentization of the sum-total of the mineralpattern of an organism. Astrology was left out of it, but these folkswere gleefully ridding their carpets of fleas and their kitchens ofroaches through the use of ashes. (Much as the Nazis sought to ridthe German forests of jews by scattering human ashes over them.)As a point of interest: I know many farmers who have removed pestsfrom their fields in short order through the use of peppers. To aperson, astrology has not been considered, quantities of pests havebeen ashed and, potentized or not potentized, applied with goodresults.This is certainly not to say that Steiner was wrong or that what thehomeopaths are doing is even the same thing as what Steiner is doing,but it is pointing to another - - and more accessible - - way to skina cat.Thanks again for drawing this out to avoid the creation of confusion.-Allan___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow Without emotion, man would be nothing but a biological computer. Love, joy,sorrow, fear, apprehension, anger,satisfaction, and discontent providethe meaning of human existence.Arnold M. Ludwig---1980 ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Ashing
even before you toast the little buggers. My experience has shown that making derogotive statments or thinking negetive thoughts about the organism to be treated is unhelpful. One is afterall communicating with their guiding being or Deva. How do you react when others ask you to do something after saying unpleasant things about you? Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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From: Sarah Cherry Re: Ashing> >I honestly feel that the shift in intentionality which begins even as you prepare to ash has an effect on the way the creatures >manifest in your environment. The devic realm knows what you want even before you toast the little buggers. Of course ! but for most of us thats not enough on its own. Also dont lets forget the reason they came in the first place - if we have sick soil or plants the clean up crew will come to fix that - hi brix crops will deter insects simply because their presence is not required. Around the farm if we have an untidy feed shed with spilt grain and old bags we invite the rats and mice, the physical is still a major part of it. Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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Moen Creek wrote: > > > Perhaps special instructions for the snakes (most of the ones > I > > have captured are 3 feet or more long. > > I will risk being improper and un-PC and suggest > Eating them & then urinating around your gardens. > This works well for deer abatement even my wife uses > a chamber pot in the spring to have enough to mark > the gardens & re-establish proper boundaries. Problem with eating them is that I am a vegetarian. Sometimes I do cook them for my brothers and friends. When I am in the wrong mood (carnivorous mode -- which is very, very rare) I can even break my usual diet and have a piece. But I don't think I'd like to make a habit of it :-) Now, the real problem is: I don't fear the snakes myself. But since my father was bitten (he is OK now) my relatives, friends and workers are frightned. I have no way to convince them that the snakes should survive. If for no other reason because they control the rats and mice. Once I turn my back they kill'em. I'd rather see them protected in a different perimeter than killed in the garden or even in the house. > "Tango Ombrei Porforvor" as this gringo is want to > say. Here we have "Samba, homem, por favor". Regards - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
Re: ashing
James and Barbara Hedley wrote: > > The insects burn down to nothing so I would potentise to 8x and then dilute > and either water or spray out. Make sure that you enclose the area that you > are trying to protect with the spray / ash by going right around the > perimeter. About potentizing, should I do it diluting in water (say, 100 ml), shaking and then diluting again in 1 l, shaking, from that, 100 ml in 1 l again, for ten times? For how long should I shake it? Any other hints appreciated. > Good luck in your South American odyssey. Thank you. > James Hedley. > -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
Re: ashing
Dear Sarah, We have found that a fire sign moon is the most effective for burning of insects. in order of preference Leo, Sagitarius, Aries. Carbonate the insects in a cast iron frypand homoeopathically potentise them as per the methods developed by Lili and Eugen Kolisko [see archives]. Trials over a considerable period of time have shown that it is the potentising that makes the difference to the efficacy of BD peppers. Regards James Hedley. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Cherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: Re: ashing > Maria Thun's 'picture book" entitled "Gardening for Life" has a fairly > specific outline regarding insects. She only lists a few, but you might > get a sense of the rhythms she is suggesting from reading that book. > Hugh Courtney at JPI has detailed instructions on burning and making > the deltution. Insects are the trickiest to ash for. Their form is so > varied during metamorphosis, the sun time for ashing will move > correspondingly. With some insects, Thun found, you even have to > consider the moon. > > I'm interested to hear that Agnihotra is effective in this regard. > > The information from JPI was in the newsletter some time ago. If you > can't find a copy, write back and I'll dig for mine. > > Sarah > --- Aurora Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings Fernando: > > The ashing process works mainly with insects, rodents and plants and > > the > > basic info is in Steiner's Agriculture. > > We have had success with Agnihotra ash for pests as well. Their > > website is , > > I believe, www.copworks. com/Agnihotra. There is a newsletter they > > put out > > which has many articles on farms which have fewer pest problems once > > they > > begin to practice Agnihotra. > > Blessings and Good Luck, > > Barbara and Woody > > P.S. If anyone knows of the German book which explains in detail the > > ashing > > process for certain plants we would sure appreciate knowing the > > title. > > Thanks > > > > http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora > > -Original Message- > > From: Fernando Cabral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:29 PM > > Subject: Re: ashing > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I think you better just relocate..sstorch > > > > Is this supposed to be a joke? > > > > - fernando > > > > > > -- > > REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão > > REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are > > to come > > Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br > > Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 > > 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W > > 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > >
Re: ashing
Dear Fernando, It certainly sounds as if you are in some pretty wild country down there. [1] Rattlesnakes. Try burning some on a full moon and spreading the ash around. I have an acqaintance in Broome (Aust) who tryed burning vertebrates in many piles through her orchard and just leaving it there. try burning several rattlenakes in different piles and just leave the ash where it is burnt. [2] You ask about moon and time of day for collecting the material, burning it > and spreading it. We have found that to burn the insects on a 3rd quarter of Leo moon [as per Llewellyn's moon Sign Book not the biodynamic calenders which can differ by as much as 2 days from Llewellyns]. This years stock has not arrived but as soon as they do I will post you dates and times for the next few months. We have found that insects are easier to control than vertebates. [2] How to burn the material.We have found that the best results are obtained by carbonating the pests in a cast iron saucepan or frying pan with a lid on it. Carbonating seems to work better than burning. [3] Spreading. Vertebrates as per rattlesnakes. The insects burn down to nothing so I would potentise to 8x and then dilute and either water or spray out. Make sure that you enclose the area that you are trying to protect with the spray / ash by going right around the perimeter. Good luck in your South American odyssey. James Hedley. - Original Message - From: "Fernando Cabral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: ashing > I have had lots of problems with > > Snakes (great number of rattle snakes) > crickets (they chew around the plant whose growing tip is cut off > and > drops to the ground). > bees (arapuã, a Brazilian black bee that eats flowers, buds, > young fruits and any soft plant tissue) > butterfly > > I'd like to test ashing to diminish their attacks. Since I have > never > seen full, clear explanation on how to prepare and use the ashes, > I'd > appreciate if someone out there could educate me on that. > > Things like: > > a) moon and time of day for collecting the material, burning it > and spreading it > b) How to burn the material > c) How to spread the ashes > > Perhaps special instructions for the snakes (most of the ones I > have captured are 3 feet or more long. > > Thank you > > - fernando > > > > -- > REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão > REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are > to come > Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br > Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 > 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W > 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W > >
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Dear Allan, I cant see what the problem is when you are trying to put a fence in to keep out the foxes and if you put out peppers in that area to keep out foxes? The peppers will not kill the foxes, it just makes it not the right place to be! It is like a glass wall around the area you pepper. (Much cheaper too!) Remember Steiner spoke of peppering the dandelions in the garden, when the farmer wanted them in his fields but not the garden. He said you can just keep them out of the area that you pepper. I agree we need to look at the reasons there is a problem and try to deal with that first, and also what is going to take its place! Best wishes Cheryl. BDFGAA Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.biodynamics.net.au - Original Message - From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: Re: ashing > >So, the fact is that securing a "bioregional biological > >interelationship" is much harder than it seems at first > >sight. It does not seem you can convince most people > >that every single form of life on Earth should have a fair > >chance to manifest itself and live its destiny. Let alone > >convince them that this is even "profitable"! > > Fernando - I understand what you are saying. What I am hearing from > permaculture people and from some biodynamic people - - from their > experience, btw, and not from conjecture, is, essentially 'build it > and they will come.' I'm assuming that what we will eventually find > out is that the ramifications of the soil foodweb are much broader > than we currently area aware and that when a healthy soil > micorbiology is re-established, it effects the higher animals in ways > that we have not yet quantified. > > I, my friend, have fox troubles. It's hard for me to wish for the > biological solution for foxes (essentially hungry wolves), but I will > not resort to ashinging because ashing 'creates a hole' and that > could not be in my best interest: whether it is filled or goes > unfilled! > > -Allan >
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Title: Re: ashing > Perhaps special instructions for the snakes (most of the ones I > have captured are 3 feet or more long. I will risk being improper and un-PC and suggest Eating them & then urinating around your gardens. This works well for deer abatement even my wife uses a chamber pot in the spring to have enough to mark the gardens & re-establish proper boundaries. Rattlers are very, very good tasting and yours are "farm raised" and local. And hey they are not eating from some chemical farmers corn field like the deer do. I held my water on the deer thread earlier but rattlers are now protected and rare here in Wisconsin so take advantage of your good fortune. "Tango Ombrei Porforvor" as this gringo is want to say. L&L Markess
Re: ashing/peppering
on 9/1/02 4:12 PM, Allan Balliett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Dear Cheryl: >> >> Having a few major snakes taking up my garden right now, I would really >> appreciate any articles on peppering. It's an area I am very intrigued with >> after working with Homoeopathics. >> Thanks >> Liz Davis > > Liz, et al - peppers and ashing are often associated with Steiner and > biodynamics but they have, in fact, a long history in general > homeopathics. The literature of homeopathy may be a fertile place to > do more research, since relatively little is laid out in biodynamic > literature. (Check in particular articles in back issues of > HOMEOPATHY TODAY, etc) -Allan > > PS But I, for one, don't think you need to pepper for your snakes. I > think you need to investigate your bioregional biological > interelationships and 'solve' your snake problem by maximizing > diversity rather than 'reducing' it Enlivening the soil through the > use of the BD Preps and compost teas has a strong anecdotal > reputation for bringing forward many otherwise rare beneficial > species of birds and mammals. Thanks Allan and Cheryl, I appreciate the information. In agreeance with you Allan as far as maximizing the diversity before ever proceeding with peppering, though I would like to no more of this hole you speak of from ashing. Thanks again Liz
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>Let me tell you, if they are as smart there as they are here, >they will find a way to dig a tunnel under your American wire >fence... > >- fernando Yes, fernando. That sort of narrows it down, doesn't it? -Allan
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My experience is that foxes are especially numerous this year, as are weasels. Probably to highlight the burgeoning political atrocities, similar in energy. Essie At 08:48 AM 1/9/02 -0300, you wrote: >Allan Balliett wrote: > > > (American wire fence going up around the > > garden before this coming growing season) > >Let me tell you, if they are as smart there as they are here, >they will find a way to dig a tunnel under your American wire >fence... > >- fernando > >-- >REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão >REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are >to come >Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br >Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 >15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W >19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
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Allan Balliett wrote: > (American wire fence going up around the > garden before this coming growing season) Let me tell you, if they are as smart there as they are here, they will find a way to dig a tunnel under your American wire fence... - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
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Incidentally, if you don't have a plague of foxes then you probably don't know that they get into your raised beds and dig GREAT BIG HOLES (looking for something they think is in there to eat, I assume) If you plant small patches for diveristy, they can destroy an entire crop overnight. They also trample things (again, looking for prey) and, as inexpicable as it is, dig tunnels into the little mountain of rock dust we have here. (American wire fence going up around the garden before this coming growing season) -Allan PS Yes, and they've eaten almost a hundred chickens this yearbut if they catch that damned weasel, they might be worth having around! ;-) >>So, the fact is that securing a "bioregional biological >>interelationship" is much harder than it seems at first >>sight. It does not seem you can convince most people >>that every single form of life on Earth should have a fair >>chance to manifest itself and live its destiny. Let alone >>convince them that this is even "profitable"! > >Fernando - I understand what you are saying. What I am hearing from >permaculture people and from some biodynamic people - - from their >experience, btw, and not from conjecture, is, essentially 'build it >and they will come.' I'm assuming that what we will eventually find >out is that the ramifications of the soil foodweb are much broader >than we currently area aware and that when a healthy soil >micorbiology is re-established, it effects the higher animals in >ways that we have not yet quantified. > >I, my friend, have fox troubles. It's hard for me to wish for the >biological solution for foxes (essentially hungry wolves), but I >will not resort to ashinging because ashing 'creates a hole' and >that could not be in my best interest: whether it is filled or goes >unfilled! > >-Allan
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>So, the fact is that securing a "bioregional biological >interelationship" is much harder than it seems at first >sight. It does not seem you can convince most people >that every single form of life on Earth should have a fair >chance to manifest itself and live its destiny. Let alone >convince them that this is even "profitable"! Fernando - I understand what you are saying. What I am hearing from permaculture people and from some biodynamic people - - from their experience, btw, and not from conjecture, is, essentially 'build it and they will come.' I'm assuming that what we will eventually find out is that the ramifications of the soil foodweb are much broader than we currently area aware and that when a healthy soil micorbiology is re-established, it effects the higher animals in ways that we have not yet quantified. I, my friend, have fox troubles. It's hard for me to wish for the biological solution for foxes (essentially hungry wolves), but I will not resort to ashinging because ashing 'creates a hole' and that could not be in my best interest: whether it is filled or goes unfilled! -Allan
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Cow shit or fish guts and breath deeply. Barbara and Woody Aurora Farm is the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: ashing > >In a message dated 1/8/02 10:26:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< SStorch: > > >That was "Barbara and Woody" advice, and in fact Barbara's initiative. > > >Woodyh > > >> > >well dip me in shit...sstorch >
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Allan Balliett wrote: > > PS But I, for one, don't think you need to pepper for your snakes. I > think you need to investigate your bioregional biological > interelationships and 'solve' your snake problem by maximizing > diversity rather than 'reducing' it I couldn't agree more. Nevertheless, there is a problem most of us can not solve. Myself, for one. I am sorrounded by farmers who do everything the American Way: hybrids, pesticides, fungicides, heavy machines, chemical fertilizers you name it. If the big companies say it brings quick profit they will try it. Now, my little farm is (more os less) 1 km x 0.2 km. How can I prevent the envenoming of little animals that go back and forth among the farms. Birds that eat snakes, for instance. They tend to be big and walk (or fly) long distances. Like the ema (rhea) who I have not seen for several years now. Even the sariema (a much smaller rhea) is much less common than it used to be. So, the fact is that securing a "bioregional biological interelationship" is much harder than it seems at first sight. It does not seem you can convince most people that every single form of life on Earth should have a fair chance to manifest itself and live its destiny. Let alone convince them that this is even "profitable"! - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
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>Dear Cheryl: > >Having a few major snakes taking up my garden right now, I would really >appreciate any articles on peppering. It's an area I am very intrigued with >after working with Homoeopathics. >Thanks >Liz Davis Liz, et al - peppers and ashing are often associated with Steiner and biodynamics but they have, in fact, a long history in general homeopathics. The literature of homeopathy may be a fertile place to do more research, since relatively little is laid out in biodynamic literature. (Check in particular articles in back issues of HOMEOPATHY TODAY, etc) -Allan PS But I, for one, don't think you need to pepper for your snakes. I think you need to investigate your bioregional biological interelationships and 'solve' your snake problem by maximizing diversity rather than 'reducing' it Enlivening the soil through the use of the BD Preps and compost teas has a strong anecdotal reputation for bringing forward many otherwise rare beneficial species of birds and mammals.
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on 9/1/02 10:49 AM, Cheryl Kemp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear Fernando, > First thought that comes to me - have you sprayed out 501? Or is the area > under stress - lack of rain etc. > Seems like there is an imbalance there to have so much insect activity > above the earth. > Another way to protect the young tender tissue of new leaves is to spray on > some lime - hydrated lime 10lb to 300 galls water or 5kg to 800 litres > water. Mix to a milky liquid and spray around the edges of the orchard or on > the vegetables. This will harden the cell walls of the young leaves and they > become unattractive to the insects. > (Could be good for monoleptas as well) > For the snakes: See article on peppering that I will send to you separately. > > Cheryl Kemp > BDFGAA > Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 > Home: 02 6657 5306 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: www.biodynamics.net.au > > - Original Message - > From: "Fernando Cabral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 PM > Subject: ashing > > >> I have had lots of problems with >> >> Snakes (great number of rattle snakes) >> crickets (they chew around the plant whose growing tip is cut off >> and >> drops to the ground). >> bees (arapuã, a Brazilian black bee that eats flowers, buds, >> young fruits and any soft plant tissue) >> butterfly >> >> I'd like to test ashing to diminish their attacks. Since I have >> never >> seen full, clear explanation on how to prepare and use the ashes, >> I'd >> appreciate if someone out there could educate me on that. >> >> Things like: >> >> a) moon and time of day for collecting the material, burning it >> and spreading it >> b) How to burn the material >> c) How to spread the ashes >> >> Perhaps special instructions for the snakes (most of the ones I >> have captured are 3 feet or more long. >> >> Thank you >> >> - fernando >> >> >> >> -- >> REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão >> REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are >> to come >> Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br >> Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 >> 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W >> 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W >> Dear Cheryl: Having a few major snakes taking up my garden right now, I would really appreciate any articles on peppering. It's an area I am very intrigued with after working with Homoeopathics. Thanks Liz Davis
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Dear Fernando, First thought that comes to me - have you sprayed out 501? Or is the area under stress - lack of rain etc. Seems like there is an imbalance there to have so much insect activity above the earth. Another way to protect the young tender tissue of new leaves is to spray on some lime - hydrated lime 10lb to 300 galls water or 5kg to 800 litres water. Mix to a milky liquid and spray around the edges of the orchard or on the vegetables. This will harden the cell walls of the young leaves and they become unattractive to the insects. (Could be good for monoleptas as well) For the snakes: See article on peppering that I will send to you separately. Cheryl Kemp BDFGAA Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.biodynamics.net.au - Original Message - From: "Fernando Cabral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: ashing > I have had lots of problems with > > Snakes (great number of rattle snakes) > crickets (they chew around the plant whose growing tip is cut off > and > drops to the ground). > bees (arapuã, a Brazilian black bee that eats flowers, buds, > young fruits and any soft plant tissue) > butterfly > > I'd like to test ashing to diminish their attacks. Since I have > never > seen full, clear explanation on how to prepare and use the ashes, > I'd > appreciate if someone out there could educate me on that. > > Things like: > > a) moon and time of day for collecting the material, burning it > and spreading it > b) How to burn the material > c) How to spread the ashes > > Perhaps special instructions for the snakes (most of the ones I > have captured are 3 feet or more long. > > Thank you > > - fernando > > > > -- > REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão > REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are > to come > Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br > Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 > 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W > 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W >
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In a message dated 1/8/02 10:26:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << SStorch: That was "Barbara and Woody" advice, and in fact Barbara's initiative. Woodyh >> well dip me in shit...sstorch
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SStorch: That was "Barbara and Woody" advice, and in fact Barbara's initiative. Woodyh http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: Re: ashing >Yes Fernando that was a joke...good advice from Woody. I have just started >Agnihotra, I did not realize the pest control benefit...sstorch >
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You can find out more info on agnihotra and HOMA therapy or checkout the SATSANG publication at http://www.agnihotra.com -Allan from those pages: What is HOMA THERAPY ? Homa is a Sanskrit word used here synonymously with Yajnya. Yajnya is the technical term from the Vedic science of bioenergy denoting the process of removing the toxic conditions of the atmosphere through the agency of fire. You heal the atmosphere and the healed atmosphere heals you. This is the central idea in Homa Therapy. Yajnya replenishes the nutrients that pollution robs from our environment. Homa Therapy is totally a revealed science. It is as old as creation. In the course of time this knowledge was lost but it is now being resuscitated to give people guidance about how to correct the polluted conditions we find ourselves in on the planet today. Homa Therapy comes from VEDAS, the ancientmost body of knowledge known to man. The most basic Homa (Yajnya) is called AGNIHOTRA and is tuned to the biorhythm of sunrise/sunset. Performance of Agnihotra on a regular daily basis establishes the healing energies necessary for a healthy environment. The process involves preparing a small fire in a copper pyramid of fixed size and putting some grains of rice and ghee (clarified unsalted butter) into fire exactly at sunrise and sunset accompanied by the chant of two simple mantras. You can practice Agnihotra in your apartment, garden, office or car. It takes only a few minutes of your time daily. >Greetings Fernando: >The ashing process works mainly with insects, rodents and plants and the >basic info is in Steiner's Agriculture. >We have had success with Agnihotra ash for pests as well. Their website is , >I believe, www.copworks. com/Agnihotra. There is a newsletter they put out >which has many articles on farms which have fewer pest problems once they >begin to practice Agnihotra. >Blessings and Good Luck, >Barbara and Woody >P.S. If anyone knows of the German book which explains in detail the ashing >process for certain plants we would sure appreciate knowing the title. >Thanks > >http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora >-Original Message- >From: Fernando Cabral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:29 PM >Subject: Re: ashing > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I think you better just relocate..sstorch > >Is this supposed to be a joke? > >- fernando > > >-- >REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão >REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are >to come >Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br >Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 >15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W >19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
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Maria Thun's 'picture book" entitled "Gardening for Life" has a fairly specific outline regarding insects. She only lists a few, but you might get a sense of the rhythms she is suggesting from reading that book. Hugh Courtney at JPI has detailed instructions on burning and making the deltution. Insects are the trickiest to ash for. Their form is so varied during metamorphosis, the sun time for ashing will move correspondingly. With some insects, Thun found, you even have to consider the moon. I'm interested to hear that Agnihotra is effective in this regard. The information from JPI was in the newsletter some time ago. If you can't find a copy, write back and I'll dig for mine. Sarah --- Aurora Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings Fernando: > The ashing process works mainly with insects, rodents and plants and > the > basic info is in Steiner's Agriculture. > We have had success with Agnihotra ash for pests as well. Their > website is , > I believe, www.copworks. com/Agnihotra. There is a newsletter they > put out > which has many articles on farms which have fewer pest problems once > they > begin to practice Agnihotra. > Blessings and Good Luck, > Barbara and Woody > P.S. If anyone knows of the German book which explains in detail the > ashing > process for certain plants we would sure appreciate knowing the > title. > Thanks > > http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora > -Original Message- > From: Fernando Cabral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: ashing > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I think you better just relocate..sstorch > > Is this supposed to be a joke? > > - fernando > > > -- > REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão > REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are > to come > Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br > Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 > 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W > 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W > __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
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Yes Fernando that was a joke...good advice from Woody. I have just started Agnihotra, I did not realize the pest control benefit...sstorch
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Greetings Fernando: The ashing process works mainly with insects, rodents and plants and the basic info is in Steiner's Agriculture. We have had success with Agnihotra ash for pests as well. Their website is , I believe, www.copworks. com/Agnihotra. There is a newsletter they put out which has many articles on farms which have fewer pest problems once they begin to practice Agnihotra. Blessings and Good Luck, Barbara and Woody P.S. If anyone knows of the German book which explains in detail the ashing process for certain plants we would sure appreciate knowing the title. Thanks http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Fernando Cabral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: Re: ashing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think you better just relocate..sstorch Is this supposed to be a joke? - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think you better just relocate..sstorch Is this supposed to be a joke? - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9" S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6" W 19º 37' 57.0" S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6" W
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I think you better just relocate..sstorch
