Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Hang on a moment. The version of Yocto that is available for Wandboard
> targets the armhf CPU platform. Are the Panda's notoriously unreliable
> hardware wise?

i.mx6 builtin sata: wand <-> sata drive
panda no sata: panda <-> usb-sata <-> sata drive..

The smsc95xx used on the panda, just isn't 100% reliable, when
compared to the imx6's builtin sata...

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Hang on a moment. The version of Yocto that is available for Wandboard 
targets the armhf CPU platform. Are the Panda's notoriously unreliable 
hardware wise?


On Sunday, 30 November 2014 14:36:05 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> 3d: vivante will be reversed engineered before powervr. Freescale hasn't 
> released 'armhf' drivers whereas ti has..
>
> The 'x15' will be supported by bb.org and ti.. Who really supports the 
> wand? All the info I put out is just because I replaced my failing pandas 
> with quad wands...
>
> Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[liyaoshi]

I have tested Ti gpu driver on omap5 uevm board based with GLSDK 6.04

The gpu driver crash didn't be fixed for a very long time .

iMX6 GPU will crash also ,if high cpu load and very frequency interrupt
case, you might get kernel panic on imx6-solo

but on fsl QUAD cores  , Its more stable , maybe because of their gpu
kernel  driver is based on work queue . .

But for FSL kernel driver . lack of I2C /SPI dma support , if you want use
very high spi through put , like DMB/CMMB chip always do

You will get poor performance .




2014-12-01 11:39 GMT+08:00 Nick Apperley :

> Presumably the closed source driver is an installer that is run on any
> Freescale imx6 board. If that is the case then TI's GPU support is **ahem,
> cough, cough** severely lacking.
>
>
>
> On Monday, 1 December 2014 16:35:39 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>>
>> Looks as though Freescale have made the closed source driver available
>> for all the GPUs they use (Vivante). Have heard that JavaFX programs will
>> run via the framebuffer (hardware rendering) just fine with both the closed
>> (official) and open source (unofficial - reverse engineered) Vivante GPU
>> drivers.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 30 November 2014 15:45:45 UTC+13, liyaoshi wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.freescale.com/lgfiles/NMG/MAD/YOCTO/gpu-viv-
>>> bin-mx6q-3.10.17-1.0.0-hfp.bin
>>>
>>> Do you mean this ?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-11-30 9:35 GMT+08:00 Robert Nelson :
>>>

 On Nov 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "Nick Apperley"  wrote:
 >
 > Robert - thanks for the advise. Would it make sense economically to
 go for the Wandboard Quad over the upcoming Beagleboard X15 when it comes
 to running GUI programs?

 3d: vivante will be reversed engineered before powervr. Freescale
 hasn't released 'armhf' drivers whereas ti has..

 The 'x15' will be supported by bb.org and ti.. Who really supports the
 wand? All the info I put out is just because I replaced my failing pandas
 with quad wands...

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Presumably the closed source driver is an installer that is run on any 
Freescale imx6 board. If that is the case then TI's GPU support is **ahem, 
cough, cough** severely lacking.


On Monday, 1 December 2014 16:35:39 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> Looks as though Freescale have made the closed source driver available for 
> all the GPUs they use (Vivante). Have heard that JavaFX programs will run 
> via the framebuffer (hardware rendering) just fine with both the closed 
> (official) and open source (unofficial - reverse engineered) Vivante GPU 
> drivers.
>
>
> On Sunday, 30 November 2014 15:45:45 UTC+13, liyaoshi wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.freescale.com/lgfiles/NMG/MAD/YOCTO/gpu-viv-bin-mx6q-3.10.17-1.0.0-hfp.bin
>>
>> Do you mean this ?
>>
>>
>> 2014-11-30 9:35 GMT+08:00 Robert Nelson :
>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "Nick Apperley"  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Robert - thanks for the advise. Would it make sense economically to go 
>>> for the Wandboard Quad over the upcoming Beagleboard X15 when it comes to 
>>> running GUI programs?
>>>
>>> 3d: vivante will be reversed engineered before powervr. Freescale hasn't 
>>> released 'armhf' drivers whereas ti has..
>>>
>>> The 'x15' will be supported by bb.org and ti.. Who really supports the 
>>> wand? All the info I put out is just because I replaced my failing pandas 
>>> with quad wands...
>>>
>>> Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Looks as though Freescale have made the closed source driver available for 
all the GPUs they use (Vivante). Have heard that JavaFX programs will run 
via the framebuffer (hardware rendering) just fine with both the closed 
(official) and open source (unofficial - reverse engineered) Vivante GPU 
drivers.


On Sunday, 30 November 2014 15:45:45 UTC+13, liyaoshi wrote:
>
>
> http://www.freescale.com/lgfiles/NMG/MAD/YOCTO/gpu-viv-bin-mx6q-3.10.17-1.0.0-hfp.bin
>
> Do you mean this ?
>
>
> 2014-11-30 9:35 GMT+08:00 Robert Nelson 
> >:
>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "Nick Apperley" > 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Robert - thanks for the advise. Would it make sense economically to go 
>> for the Wandboard Quad over the upcoming Beagleboard X15 when it comes to 
>> running GUI programs?
>>
>> 3d: vivante will be reversed engineered before powervr. Freescale hasn't 
>> released 'armhf' drivers whereas ti has..
>>
>> The 'x15' will be supported by bb.org and ti.. Who really supports the 
>> wand? All the info I put out is just because I replaced my failing pandas 
>> with quad wands...
>>
>> Regards,
>>  
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[liyaoshi]

http://www.freescale.com/lgfiles/NMG/MAD/YOCTO/gpu-viv-bin-mx6q-3.10.17-1.0.0-hfp.bin

Do you mean this ?


2014-11-30 9:35 GMT+08:00 Robert Nelson :

>
> On Nov 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "Nick Apperley"  wrote:
> >
> > Robert - thanks for the advise. Would it make sense economically to go
> for the Wandboard Quad over the upcoming Beagleboard X15 when it comes to
> running GUI programs?
>
> 3d: vivante will be reversed engineered before powervr. Freescale hasn't
> released 'armhf' drivers whereas ti has..
>
> The 'x15' will be supported by bb.org and ti.. Who really supports the
> wand? All the info I put out is just because I replaced my failing pandas
> with quad wands...
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Nov 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "Nick Apperley"  wrote:
>
> Robert - thanks for the advise. Would it make sense economically to go
for the Wandboard Quad over the upcoming Beagleboard X15 when it comes to
running GUI programs?

3d: vivante will be reversed engineered before powervr. Freescale hasn't
released 'armhf' drivers whereas ti has..

The 'x15' will be supported by bb.org and ti.. Who really supports the
wand? All the info I put out is just because I replaced my failing pandas
with quad wands...

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Robert - thanks for the advise. Would it make sense economically to go for 
the Wandboard Quad over the upcoming Beagleboard X15 when it comes to 
running GUI programs?


On Sunday, 30 November 2014 13:32:01 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2014 6:21 PM, "Nick Apperley" > 
> wrote:
> >
> > Robert - What is the performance like with a Dual Core Cortex A9 
> compared to a Quad Core Cortex A9?
>
> With the quad wand, you also get 2gb of ram over the dual which only has 
> 1gb.. That alone is worth the price delta. For the price/performance it's 
> really hard to beat the wand quad.
>
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:51:10 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
> >>
> >> omap5_uevm: (i was also building cloud9 during week, let's say 95% of 
> >> the time was openjdk) 
> >> Build needed 38:19:47, 6215244k disc space 
> >>
> >> wand quad: (i was out of state while this was running, so 100% core 
> usage..) 
> >> Build needed 50:06:26, 6215460k disc space 
> >>
> >> The dual a15's come out to 30% faster then the quad a9's... 
> >>
> >> Regards, 
> >>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Nov 29, 2014 6:21 PM, "Nick Apperley"  wrote:
>
> Robert - What is the performance like with a Dual Core Cortex A9 compared
to a Quad Core Cortex A9?

With the quad wand, you also get 2gb of ram over the dual which only has
1gb.. That alone is worth the price delta. For the price/performance it's
really hard to beat the wand quad.

>
>
> On Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:51:10 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> omap5_uevm: (i was also building cloud9 during week, let's say 95% of
>> the time was openjdk)
>> Build needed 38:19:47, 6215244k disc space
>>
>> wand quad: (i was out of state while this was running, so 100% core
usage..)
>> Build needed 50:06:26, 6215460k disc space
>>
>> The dual a15's come out to 30% faster then the quad a9's...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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>> http://www.rcn-ee.com/
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Robert - What is the performance like with a Dual Core Cortex A9 compared 
to a Quad Core Cortex A9?


On Sunday, 30 November 2014 04:51:10 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> omap5_uevm: (i was also building cloud9 during week, let's say 95% of 
> the time was openjdk) 
> Build needed 38:19:47, 6215244k disc space 
>
> wand quad: (i was out of state while this was running, so 100% core 
> usage..) 
> Build needed 50:06:26, 6215460k disc space 
>
> The dual a15's come out to 30% faster then the quad a9's... 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
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> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[John Syn]

On 11/29/14, 7:50 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote:

>On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, John Syn  wrote:
>>
>> On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley 
>>>wrote:
 Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?

 Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
packages via
 an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
 (Trusty).
>>>
>>>So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
>> So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
>> which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
>> CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good
>>comparison.
>
>So over thanksgiving i let my quad wand do the same task:
>
>omap5_uevm: (i was also building cloud9 during week, let's say 95% of
>the time was openjdk)
>Build needed 38:19:47, 6215244k disc space
>
>wand quad: (i was out of state while this was running, so 100% core
>usage..)
>Build needed 50:06:26, 6215460k disc space
>
>The dual a15's come out to 30% faster then the quad a9's...
Interesting.

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a15.php

In this article, ARM says the CortexA15 is 2X performance compared to the
CortexA9, so 2xA15 = 4xA9; however, the OMAP5432 is running at 1.5MHz and
the Wandboard running at 1MHz, so given that, I would expect the OMAP5 to
be about 50% faster. Clearly Debian are running much slower hardware.

Regards,
John
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Robert Nelson  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, John Syn  wrote:
>>
>> On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley 
>>>wrote:
 Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?

 Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
packages via
 an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
 (Trusty).
>>>
>>>So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
>> So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
>> which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
>> CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good comparison.
>
> So over thanksgiving i let my quad wand do the same task:
>
> omap5_uevm: (i was also building cloud9 during week, let's say 95% of
> the time was openjdk)
> Build needed 38:19:47, 6215244k disc space
>
> wand quad: (i was out of state while this was running, so 100% core usage..)
> Build needed 50:06:26, 6215460k disc space
>
> The dual a15's come out to 30% faster then the quad a9's...

I'm thinking debian might still have been using a mx53loco based box
for that 120hour run..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, John Syn  wrote:
>
> On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote:
>
>>On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley 
>>wrote:
>>> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
>>>
>>> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
>>>packages via
>>> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
>>> (Trusty).
>>
>>So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
> So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
> which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
> CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good comparison.

So over thanksgiving i let my quad wand do the same task:

omap5_uevm: (i was also building cloud9 during week, let's say 95% of
the time was openjdk)
Build needed 38:19:47, 6215244k disc space

wand quad: (i was out of state while this was running, so 100% core usage..)
Build needed 50:06:26, 6215460k disc space

The dual a15's come out to 30% faster then the quad a9's...

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

FYI OpenJFX 1.8u40 includes Dialog/Alert API 
. If you use the 
Oracle JDK then you will have to wait until around March 2015 to take 
advantage of the new API.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Basic overview of setting up a BBB running Ubuntu 14.04 to run a JavaFX 
program (*rough draft*):

1. Add unofficial OpenJDK 8 PPA
2. Update package list
3. Install OpenJDK 8 JamVM package
4. Make sure OpenJDK is installed by running *java -version* in a terminal 
(should see OpenJDK 1.8 being mentioned in the output)
5. Build DirectFB 1.6
6. Install DirectFB to */usr*
7. Extract OpenJFX 1.8u40 runtime file (7z) using *p7zip* and copy the lib 
directory to the OpenJDK 8 JRE directory
8. Run Ensemble8 demo in X11 via LXDE to make sure that a JavaFX program 
will run properly:

*java -Djavafx.platform=DirectFB -jamvm -jar 
/home/a_user/sample_dir/Ensemble8.jar*



Would it be possible to have a JavaFX section in the BBB wiki on the ELinux 
website?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Some very useful info on changing JRE/JVMs with Debian/Ubuntu 
.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Do be aware with OpenJFX that JavaFX programs on the BBB will only run in 
X11 with DirectFB being specified as the renderer. DirectFB on the BBB with 
the current revision of OpenJFX that I was using had the bizarre GTK 
requirement, which prevents the framebuffer (no X11) from being used. Also 
a custom version of DirectFB must be built and installed. There is an 
ancient version of DirectFB in the Debian/Ubuntu repository but it doesn't 
work with OpenJFX or JavaFX.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

By default OpenJDK 8 uses the Zero JVM which doesn't provide a high level 
of performance. Highly recommended to use the high performance JamVM JVM 
instead, which is comparable performance wise to the JVM used in Oracle's 
Java SE Embedded 8. JamVM was originally designed to perform well on 
resource constrained embedded devices. Java 8 Lambda features can be used 
in a JavaFX program on an embedded device using JamVM, which the Oracle JVM 
doesn't support (in the case of Java SE Embedded 8).

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Google Groups text editor has mysteriously decided to stop working. Here is 
the link to the OpenJFX runtime 
.

On Thursday, 27 November 2014 18:12:03 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> Have uploaded a copy of the OpenJFX 1.8u40 runtime (GPL 2 license with 
> class path exception). On the BBB Extract the lib directory from the 7z 
> file and move the directory to the JRE installation directory.
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Have uploaded a copy of the OpenJFX 1.8u40 runtime (GPL 2 license with 
class path exception). On the BBB Extract the lib directory from the 7z 
file and move the directory to the JRE installation directory.


On Thursday, 27 November 2014 14:38:44 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> Successfully built OpenJFX from the newest HG revision at the time of this 
> post. OpenJFX build took just over 3 min on a Linux Mint 17 Intel Core 2 
> Duo laptop. Not sure why I thought the build was going to take around 30 
> min.
>
> Must not be much in OpenJFX or the laptop is reasonably fast at compiling 
> software (??).
>
>
> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:49:21 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  
>> wrote: 
>> > Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed? 
>> > 
>> > Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 
>> packages via 
>> > an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04 
>> > (Trusty). 
>>
>> OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours... 
>>
>> It's in the middle of the test suite: 
>>
>> compiler/java/jar running ... 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java 
>>
>> Compare with: 
>>
>> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257
>>  
>>
>> which took over 5 days.. 
>>
>> I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder.. 
>>
>> Regards, 
>>
>> -- 
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>> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[John Syn]

From:  Nick Apperley 
Reply-To:  "beagleboard@googlegroups.com" 
Date:  Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 6:39 PM
To:  "beagleboard@googlegroups.com" 
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver
problem?)

> Wonder what it would be like to create an OpenJDK 8 build using a lower end
> Beagleboard X15 (the one that is currently in the design phase).
The ARM performance of the AM572x will have a similar performance to the
OMAP5. Both are Dual CortexA15 running at 1.5GHz. However, the DSP on the
AM572x is faster than the DSP on the OMAP5 and the AM572x has two DSPs.

Regards,
John
> 
> 
> On Thursday, 27 November 2014 15:04:46 UTC+13, Nick Apperley  wrote:
>> No wonder the OMAP5 is so much more grunty.
>> 
>> On Thursday, 27 November 2014 14:58:51 UTC+13, liyaoshi  wrote:
>>> Cortex-A15 dual cores
>>> 
>>> 2014-11-27 9:45 GMT+08:00 Nick Apperley :
>>>> Curious. Which ARM CPU does the OMAP5 SoC use?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:38:48 UTC+13, john3909  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> >On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley 
>>>>>> >wrote: 
>>>>>>> >> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
>>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>>> >> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
>>>>>>> >>packages via
>>>>>>> >> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
>>>>>>> >> (Trusty).
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> >So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
>>>>> So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
>>>>> which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
>>>>> CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good
>>>>> comparison. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, 
>>>>> John 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> >http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/
>>>>>> <http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/>
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> >Built for jessie:
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> >sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> >Regards, 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> >-- 
>>>>>> >Robert Nelson
>>>>>> >http://www.rcn-ee.com/
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Wonder what it would be like to create an OpenJDK 8 build using a lower end 
Beagleboard X15 (the one that is currently in the design phase).


On Thursday, 27 November 2014 15:04:46 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> No wonder the OMAP5 is so much more grunty.
>
> On Thursday, 27 November 2014 14:58:51 UTC+13, liyaoshi wrote:
>>
>> Cortex-A15 dual cores
>>
>> 2014-11-27 9:45 GMT+08:00 Nick Apperley :
>>
>>> Curious. Which ARM CPU does the OMAP5 SoC use?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:38:48 UTC+13, john3909 wrote:


 On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote: 

 >On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  
 >wrote: 
 >> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed? 
 >> 
 >> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 
 >>packages via 
 >> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04 
 >> (Trusty). 
 > 
 >So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;) 
 So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 
 hours 
 which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all 
 CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good 
 comparison. 

 Regards, 
 John 
 > 
 >http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/ 
 > 
 >Built for jessie: 
 > 
 >sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk 
 > 
 >Regards, 
 > 
 >-- 
 >Robert Nelson 
 >http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 

>>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

No wonder the OMAP5 is so much more grunty.

On Thursday, 27 November 2014 14:58:51 UTC+13, liyaoshi wrote:
>
> Cortex-A15 dual cores
>
> 2014-11-27 9:45 GMT+08:00 Nick Apperley >:
>
>> Curious. Which ARM CPU does the OMAP5 SoC use?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:38:48 UTC+13, john3909 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote: 
>>>
>>> >On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  
>>> >wrote: 
>>> >> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed? 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 
>>> >>packages via 
>>> >> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04 
>>> >> (Trusty). 
>>> > 
>>> >So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;) 
>>> So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours 
>>> which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all 
>>> CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good 
>>> comparison. 
>>>
>>> Regards, 
>>> John 
>>> > 
>>> >http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/ 
>>> > 
>>> >Built for jessie: 
>>> > 
>>> >sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk 
>>> > 
>>> >Regards, 
>>> > 
>>> >-- 
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>>> >http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>>> > 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[liyaoshi]

Cortex-A15 dual cores

2014-11-27 9:45 GMT+08:00 Nick Apperley :

> Curious. Which ARM CPU does the OMAP5 SoC use?
>
>
> On Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:38:48 UTC+13, john3909 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley 
>> >wrote:
>> >> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
>> >>
>> >> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
>> >>packages via
>> >> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
>> >> (Trusty).
>> >
>> >So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
>> So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
>> which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
>> CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good
>> comparison.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>> >
>> >http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/
>> >
>> >Built for jessie:
>> >
>> >sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Curious. Which ARM CPU does the OMAP5 SoC use?


On Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:38:48 UTC+13, john3909 wrote:
>
>
> On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson" > 
> wrote: 
>
> >On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  > 
> >wrote: 
> >> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed? 
> >> 
> >> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 
> >>packages via 
> >> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04 
> >> (Trusty). 
> > 
> >So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;) 
> So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours 
> which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all 
> CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good 
> comparison. 
>
> Regards, 
> John 
> > 
> >http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/ 
> > 
> >Built for jessie: 
> > 
> >sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk 
> > 
> >Regards, 
> > 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Exact build time is 3 mins 4.834 secs.


On Thursday, 27 November 2014 14:38:44 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> Successfully built OpenJFX from the newest HG revision at the time of this 
> post. OpenJFX build took just over 3 min on a Linux Mint 17 Intel Core 2 
> Duo laptop. Not sure why I thought the build was going to take around 30 
> min.
>
> Must not be much in OpenJFX or the laptop is reasonably fast at compiling 
> software (??).
>
>
> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:49:21 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  
>> wrote: 
>> > Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed? 
>> > 
>> > Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 
>> packages via 
>> > an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04 
>> > (Trusty). 
>>
>> OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours... 
>>
>> It's in the middle of the test suite: 
>>
>> compiler/java/jar running ... 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java 
>> Passed: 
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java 
>>
>> Compare with: 
>>
>> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257
>>  
>>
>> which took over 5 days.. 
>>
>> I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder.. 
>>
>> Regards, 
>>
>> -- 
>> Robert Nelson 
>> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Successfully built OpenJFX from the newest HG revision at the time of this 
post. OpenJFX build took just over 3 min on a Linux Mint 17 Intel Core 2 
Duo laptop. Not sure why I thought the build was going to take around 30 
min.

Must not be much in OpenJFX or the laptop is reasonably fast at compiling 
software (??).


On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:49:21 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed? 
> > 
> > Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 packages 
> via 
> > an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04 
> > (Trusty). 
>
> OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours... 
>
> It's in the middle of the test suite: 
>
> compiler/java/jar running ... 
> Passed: 
> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java 
> Passed: 
> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java 
> Passed: 
> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java 
> Passed: 
> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java 
>
> Compare with: 
>
> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257
>  
>
> which took over 5 days.. 
>
> I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder.. 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
> Robert Nelson 
> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[John Syn]

On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, "Robert Nelson"  wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley 
>wrote:
>> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
>>
>> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
>>packages via
>> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
>> (Trusty).
>
>So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good comparison.

Regards,
John
>
>http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/
>
>Built for jessie:
>
>sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk
>
>Regards,
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[William Hermans]

Ah, the guy was talking specifically about the OpenSSL test specifically in
that case. Reading that "article" today, seems like this person is not very
good at benchmarking. As everything is done willy nilly with unfair
advantages to some hardware. e.g. the Beaglebone was benchmarked @ 720p for
some test, where one of the other boards was tested at 1080p, and directly
compared.

that said, it should give an "out-of-the-box" feel for each board. That and
this person did more than I did in this regard so . . .

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Robert Nelson 
wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley 
> wrote:
> > Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
> >
> > Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 packages
> via
> > an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
> > (Trusty).
>
> So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
>
> http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/
>
> Built for jessie:
>
> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk
>
> Regards,
>
> --
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
>
> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 packages via
> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
> (Trusty).

So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)

http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/

Built for jessie:

sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:18 PM, William Hermans  wrote:

> LOL !!!
>
>
> *The oddity is the BeagleBone Black (BBB) which can outperform the quad
> core i.MX6 in all tests*
>
>
> I'll have to read that in fuller detail when im 100% sober . . .
>

Since that was 2013, i wouldn't be surprised a tunned uni-processor arm
kernel from that era was just more task optimized then an arm smp setup.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[William Hermans]

LOL !!!


*The oddity is the BeagleBone Black (BBB) which can outperform the quad
core i.MX6 in all tests*


I'll have to read that in fuller detail when im 100% sober . . .




On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Robert Nelson 
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Robert Nelson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:45 PM, William Hermans 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours...

 It's in the middle of the test suite:

 compiler/java/jar running ...
 Passed: tools/javac/annotations/
>>>
>>> repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java
>>> Passed:
>>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java
>>> Passed:
>>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java
>>> Passed:
>>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java
>>>
>>> Compare with:
>>>
>>> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257
>>>
>>> which took over 5 days..
>>>
>>> I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder..
>>>
>>>
>>> My god, what on earth could possibly take that long to build on a quad
>>> with 2GB of ram ? I'm assuming you're using the wanderboard . . . but you
>>> mentioned omap5 above, which is what ? the X15 ? lol
>>>
>>> If OpenJDK takes that long the kernel must take weeks . . . and yeah,
>>> mostly that was sarcasm.
>>>
>>>
>> For the heavy stuff i use an omap5 (Cortex-A15 dual core 1.5Ghz) it's got
>> 2GB of ram just like the wand quad's. It's actually faster then the Quad
>> A9's at 1Ghz.
>>
>> The omap5 is two generations prior to the am57xx found on the x15..
>>
>
> Just a quick random benchmark which had the omap5 @ 800Mhz..
>
>
> http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/08/17/texas-instruments-omap5432-evm-benchmarked-against-odroid-u2-beaglebone-black-gk802-and-an-intel-core-i7-2600k-based-pc/
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Robert Nelson 
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:45 PM, William Hermans 
> wrote:
>
>> OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours...
>>>
>>> It's in the middle of the test suite:
>>>
>>> compiler/java/jar running ...
>>> Passed: tools/javac/annotations/
>>
>> repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java
>> Passed:
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java
>> Passed:
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java
>> Passed:
>> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java
>>
>> Compare with:
>>
>> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257
>>
>> which took over 5 days..
>>
>> I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder..
>>
>>
>> My god, what on earth could possibly take that long to build on a quad
>> with 2GB of ram ? I'm assuming you're using the wanderboard . . . but you
>> mentioned omap5 above, which is what ? the X15 ? lol
>>
>> If OpenJDK takes that long the kernel must take weeks . . . and yeah,
>> mostly that was sarcasm.
>>
>>
> For the heavy stuff i use an omap5 (Cortex-A15 dual core 1.5Ghz) it's got
> 2GB of ram just like the wand quad's. It's actually faster then the Quad
> A9's at 1Ghz.
>
> The omap5 is two generations prior to the am57xx found on the x15..
>

Just a quick random benchmark which had the omap5 @ 800Mhz..

http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/08/17/texas-instruments-omap5432-evm-benchmarked-against-odroid-u2-beaglebone-black-gk802-and-an-intel-core-i7-2600k-based-pc/

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:45 PM, William Hermans  wrote:

> OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours...
>>
>> It's in the middle of the test suite:
>>
>> compiler/java/jar running ...
>> Passed: tools/javac/annotations/
>
> repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java
> Passed:
> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java
> Passed:
> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java
> Passed:
> tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java
>
> Compare with:
>
> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257
>
> which took over 5 days..
>
> I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder..
>
>
> My god, what on earth could possibly take that long to build on a quad
> with 2GB of ram ? I'm assuming you're using the wanderboard . . . but you
> mentioned omap5 above, which is what ? the X15 ? lol
>
> If OpenJDK takes that long the kernel must take weeks . . . and yeah,
> mostly that was sarcasm.
>
>
For the heavy stuff i use an omap5 (Cortex-A15 dual core 1.5Ghz) it's got
2GB of ram just like the wand quad's. It's actually faster then the Quad
A9's at 1Ghz.

The omap5 is two generations prior to the am57xx found on the x15..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[William Hermans]

>
> OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours...
>
> It's in the middle of the test suite:
>
> compiler/java/jar running ...
> Passed: tools/javac/annotations/

repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java
Passed:
tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java
Passed:
tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java
Passed:
tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java

Compare with:
https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257

which took over 5 days..

I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder..


My god, what on earth could possibly take that long to build on a quad with
2GB of ram ? I'm assuming you're using the wanderboard . . . but you
mentioned omap5 above, which is what ? the X15 ? lol

If OpenJDK takes that long the kernel must take weeks . . . and yeah,
mostly that was sarcasm.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
>
> Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 packages via
> an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
> (Trusty).

OH, it's still building..  Been at it almost 24 hours...

It's in the middle of the test suite:

compiler/java/jar running ...
Passed: tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/ReflectionTest.java
Passed: 
tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/RetentionAnnoCombo.java
Passed: tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/combo/TargetAnnoCombo.java
Passed: 
tools/javac/annotations/repeatingAnnotations/BaseAnnoAsContainerAnno.java

Compare with:
https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=openjdk-8&arch=armhf&ver=8u40~b04-2.1&stamp=1413548257

which took over 5 days..

I think my omap5 is a little more powerful then debian's armhf builder..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?

Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8 packages 
 via an unofficial PPA 
 are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04 
(Trusty).


On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 11:23:20 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Hopefully if the custom build of OpenJDK 8 works then that can be 
> adjusted 
> > to work on the stable Debian/Ubuntu images for the BBB. 
>
> If the test build goes thru, i'll just add it to: 
>
> https://github.com/rcn-ee/repos 
>
> So it'll end up on repos.rcn-ee.net  :) 
>
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>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Excellent, highly appreciated :)

On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 11:23:20 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Hopefully if the custom build of OpenJDK 8 works then that can be 
> adjusted 
> > to work on the stable Debian/Ubuntu images for the BBB. 
>
> If the test build goes thru, i'll just add it to: 
>
> https://github.com/rcn-ee/repos 
>
> So it'll end up on repos.rcn-ee.net  :) 
>
> Regards, 
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Hopefully if the custom build of OpenJDK 8 works then that can be adjusted
> to work on the stable Debian/Ubuntu images for the BBB.

If the test build goes thru, i'll just add it to:

https://github.com/rcn-ee/repos

So it'll end up on repos.rcn-ee.net  :)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Hopefully if the custom build of OpenJDK 8 works then that can be adjusted 
to work on the stable Debian/Ubuntu images for the BBB.


On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:59:26 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Is there a successful build of OpenJDK 8u20 for armhf? 
>
> I'll fire up a build and see. ;) 
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Thanks for that. Discovered that JamVM isn't an actual JRE since it relies 
on the class libraries which are available in OpenJDK. JamVM is only a JVM 
(Java Virtual Machine). From the outset JamVM *might* be able to run JavaFX 
programs since it is compatible with OpenJDK 8. IcedTea (OpenJDK 
derivative) uses JamVM as its JVM.

Originally JamVM was designed to perform well on very resource constrained 
embedded devices. Now JamVM can be used on Linux PCs (x86/AMD64).


On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:59:26 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Is there a successful build of OpenJDK 8u20 for armhf? 
>
> I'll fire up a build and see. ;) 
>
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>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Is there a successful build of OpenJDK 8u20 for armhf?

I'll fire up a build and see. ;)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Is there a successful build of OpenJDK 8u20 for armhf?


On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:35:43 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Thanks for the update. Damm, oh well there is the option to do a custom 
> > OpenJFX build. Hardest part is to do a custom build of OpenJDK 8 for 
> ARM. 
> > Having great difficulty in tracking down good documentation in this 
> area, 
> > specifically for the ARM side. Might be worth looking at the CACAO and 
> JamVM 
> > JREs (Java 8 compatible?) and seeing if they will be compatible with the 
> > OpenJFX runtime. 
>
> well less errors on armhf than openjfx. ;) 
>
> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjdk-8&suite=unstable 
>
> Regards, 
>
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Thanks for the update. Damm, oh well there is the option to do a custom
> OpenJFX build. Hardest part is to do a custom build of OpenJDK 8 for ARM.
> Having great difficulty in tracking down good documentation in this area,
> specifically for the ARM side. Might be worth looking at the CACAO and JamVM
> JREs (Java 8 compatible?) and seeing if they will be compatible with the
> OpenJFX runtime.

well less errors on armhf than openjfx. ;)

https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjdk-8&suite=unstable

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Thanks for the update. Damm, oh well there is the option to do a custom 
OpenJFX build. Hardest part is to do a custom build of OpenJDK 8 for ARM. 
Having great difficulty in tracking down good documentation in this area, 
specifically for the ARM side. Might be worth looking at the CACAO and 
JamVM JREs (Java 8 compatible?) and seeing if they will be compatible with 
the OpenJFX runtime.


On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:12:24 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Wonder if the OpenJFX package (package name?) has been uploaded to the 
> > Debian Unstable repository yet. 
>
> It's there: 
>
> https://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openjfx.html 
>
> Just a few build errors: 
>
> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjfx&suite=unstable 
>
> Regards, 
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Wonder if the OpenJFX package (package name?) has been uploaded to the
> Debian Unstable repository yet.

It's there:

https://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openjfx.html

Just a few build errors:

https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjfx&suite=unstable

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Wonder if the OpenJFX package (package name?) has been uploaded to the 
Debian Unstable repository yet.

On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:02:35 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> Below are some handy links for creating custom builds of OpenJDK and 
> OpenJFX.
>
> - Building OpenJFX 
> 
> - Building OpenJFX For ARM 
> 
> - Official Debian GIT For OpenJFX  (GIT 
> Hub)
> - How To Build And Package OpenJDK 8 With OpenJFX On Linux 
> 
>  (x86 
> only)
>
> H Looks as though Debian officially has some packaging for 
> OpenJFX, however they would need to also have packaging for OpenJDK 8 too 
> in order for OpenJFX to work. Wonder if the packaging targets x86 only or 
> if it extends to ARM as well. Robert - If you have time can you please look 
> into this one.
>
>
> On Monday, 24 November 2014 09:44:00 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Nick Apperley  
>> wrote: 
>> > Managed to get OpenJFX (open source version of JavaFX) working on the 
>> BBB, 
>> > however it is running on Ubuntu. Got a sample JavaFX program (Ensemble) 
>> > working by accident on X11 by specifying a renderer that isn't 
>> supported by 
>> > OpenJFX. Key part here is that you must specify the unsupported 
>> renderer 
>> > otherwise no JavaFX program will start, and some errors will appear in 
>> the 
>> > terminal. Automatic renderer detection with OpenJFX is currently 
>> broken. 
>>
>> Hey Nick, 
>>
>> I'd love to see your setup that got it working on ubuntu.  I can setup 
>> a *.deb package on: http://repos.rcn-ee.net/ 
>>
>> Regards, 
>>
>> -- 
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>> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Below are some handy links for creating custom builds of OpenJDK and 
OpenJFX.

- Building OpenJFX 

- Building OpenJFX For ARM 

- Official Debian GIT For OpenJFX  (GIT 
Hub)
- How To Build And Package OpenJDK 8 With OpenJFX On Linux 

 (x86 
only)

H Looks as though Debian officially has some packaging for OpenJFX, 
however they would need to also have packaging for OpenJDK 8 too in order 
for OpenJFX to work. Wonder if the packaging targets x86 only or if it 
extends to ARM as well. Robert - If you have time can you please look into 
this one.


On Monday, 24 November 2014 09:44:00 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Managed to get OpenJFX (open source version of JavaFX) working on the 
> BBB, 
> > however it is running on Ubuntu. Got a sample JavaFX program (Ensemble) 
> > working by accident on X11 by specifying a renderer that isn't supported 
> by 
> > OpenJFX. Key part here is that you must specify the unsupported renderer 
> > otherwise no JavaFX program will start, and some errors will appear in 
> the 
> > terminal. Automatic renderer detection with OpenJFX is currently broken. 
>
> Hey Nick, 
>
> I'd love to see your setup that got it working on ubuntu.  I can setup 
> a *.deb package on: http://repos.rcn-ee.net/ 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
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>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Sounds as crazy like building DirectFB 1.6 on the BBB running Debian. 
Amazing considering the BBB only has 512 MB of RAM and swap isn't enabled.


On Monday, 24 November 2014 10:32:19 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > @Robert - Are you referring to OpenJFX for a Deb package. See that there 
> is 
> > still no OpenJDK 8 package for Ubuntu/Debian, how annoying. OpenJFX 
> (ARM) is 
> > reported to work on OpenJDK 8 (ARM). 
> > 
> > Building OpenJDK is not for the faint of heart. Attempting to do so 
> would 
> > likely result in a brain dump. Also a super computer would be required 
> to do 
> > the build in quick time, which I don't have. 
> > 
> > Luckily doing a build of OpenJFX in desktop Linux is straightforward and 
> can 
> > be done in around 30 min on a Intel Core 2 Duo laptop for example. 
>
> Yeap...  deb package for arm for ubuntu/debian.. ;) 
>
> Up until the last few release's i've been building chromium on my 
> imx6/2gb & omap5/2gb hardware, but even that's oom'ing now (even with 
> lpae enabled on the omap5..)...  I'm hoping an a80/4gb that's coming 
> will fix that. 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
> Robert Nelson 
> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> @Robert - Are you referring to OpenJFX for a Deb package. See that there is
> still no OpenJDK 8 package for Ubuntu/Debian, how annoying. OpenJFX (ARM) is
> reported to work on OpenJDK 8 (ARM).
>
> Building OpenJDK is not for the faint of heart. Attempting to do so would
> likely result in a brain dump. Also a super computer would be required to do
> the build in quick time, which I don't have.
>
> Luckily doing a build of OpenJFX in desktop Linux is straightforward and can
> be done in around 30 min on a Intel Core 2 Duo laptop for example.

Yeap...  deb package for arm for ubuntu/debian.. ;)

Up until the last few release's i've been building chromium on my
imx6/2gb & omap5/2gb hardware, but even that's oom'ing now (even with
lpae enabled on the omap5..)...  I'm hoping an a80/4gb that's coming
will fix that.

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

@Robert - Are you referring to OpenJFX for a Deb package. See that there is 
still no OpenJDK 8 package for Ubuntu/Debian, how annoying. OpenJFX (ARM) 
is reported to work on OpenJDK 8 (ARM).

Building OpenJDK is not for the faint of heart. Attempting to do so would 
likely result in a brain dump. Also a super computer would be required to 
do the build in quick time, which I don't have.

Luckily doing a build of OpenJFX in desktop Linux is straightforward and 
can be done in around 30 min on a Intel Core 2 Duo laptop for example.


On Monday, 24 November 2014 09:44:00 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > Managed to get OpenJFX (open source version of JavaFX) working on the 
> BBB, 
> > however it is running on Ubuntu. Got a sample JavaFX program (Ensemble) 
> > working by accident on X11 by specifying a renderer that isn't supported 
> by 
> > OpenJFX. Key part here is that you must specify the unsupported renderer 
> > otherwise no JavaFX program will start, and some errors will appear in 
> the 
> > terminal. Automatic renderer detection with OpenJFX is currently broken. 
>
> Hey Nick, 
>
> I'd love to see your setup that got it working on ubuntu.  I can setup 
> a *.deb package on: http://repos.rcn-ee.net/ 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
> Robert Nelson 
> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Open source GPU driver is called etna_viv. Phoronix have an article covering
> etna_viv. No package for the open source driver yet. Momentarily got
> confused with the gpu-viv-acc-fb package which only contains the closed
> source Vivante GPU driver, not the open source one that I thought the
> package had.

Darn! Thanks for the update, I've been loosely following etna_viv, was
hoping they got passed the freescale *.bin requirement..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Open source GPU driver is called etna_viv. Phoronix have an article 
 covering 
etna_viv. No package for the open source driver yet. Momentarily got 
confused with the gpu-viv-acc-fb package which only contains the closed 
source Vivante GPU driver, not the open source one that I thought the 
package had.


On Monday, 24 November 2014 10:02:45 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> Found a closed source Vivante GPU driver package 
>  (gpu-viv-bin-mx6q) 
> however it is heavily tied into a Freescale ARM CPU. Will see if I can the 
> name of the open source one. Saw it somewhere on the Phoenix (Linux 
> gamer/performance website).
>
>>
>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Found a closed source Vivante GPU driver package 
 (gpu-viv-bin-mx6q) however 
it is heavily tied into a Freescale ARM CPU. Will see if I can the name of 
the open source one. Saw it somewhere on the Phoenix (Linux 
gamer/performance website).


On Monday, 24 November 2014 09:45:58 UTC+13, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Nick Apperley  > wrote: 
> > You're not going to like this suggestion. Far better option to get 
> JavaFX 
> > and OpenJFX working and performing well is to run JavaFX programs on a 
> > Wandboard (eg the Dual version) since all the Vivante GPUs are 
> supported, 
> > even graphics acceleration via both GPUs. Sadly the GPU on the BBB will 
> > NEVER be fully supported as long as Imagitech refuse to completely 
> release 
> > the specifications for all of its GPUs. 
> > 
> > Plenty of people are in the same situation with trying to get the SGX 
> GPU 
> > working on the BBB but to no avail. So much time spent trying to get the 
> GPU 
> > supported. To make matters worse the Beaglebone Foundation's upcoming 
> > Beagleboard X15 also contains a SGX GPU. Extremely FRUSTRATING! 
> > 
> > Much better off spending the money on a Wandboard to get JavaFX programs 
> > running easily. Ubuntu/Debian have a package containing the open source 
> > Vivante GPU driver which covers most of the Vivante GPUs (2D and 3D 
> ones). 
> > Easy as pie to install the GPU driver via apt-get (single step). Wish it 
> was 
> > the same with the BBB. 
>
> For reference, which package is that? The x15's got a 2D engine from 
> Vivante..  Does it still rely on a blob from vivante to build the 
> final package? 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
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> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> You're not going to like this suggestion. Far better option to get JavaFX
> and OpenJFX working and performing well is to run JavaFX programs on a
> Wandboard (eg the Dual version) since all the Vivante GPUs are supported,
> even graphics acceleration via both GPUs. Sadly the GPU on the BBB will
> NEVER be fully supported as long as Imagitech refuse to completely release
> the specifications for all of its GPUs.
>
> Plenty of people are in the same situation with trying to get the SGX GPU
> working on the BBB but to no avail. So much time spent trying to get the GPU
> supported. To make matters worse the Beaglebone Foundation's upcoming
> Beagleboard X15 also contains a SGX GPU. Extremely FRUSTRATING!
>
> Much better off spending the money on a Wandboard to get JavaFX programs
> running easily. Ubuntu/Debian have a package containing the open source
> Vivante GPU driver which covers most of the Vivante GPUs (2D and 3D ones).
> Easy as pie to install the GPU driver via apt-get (single step). Wish it was
> the same with the BBB.

For reference, which package is that? The x15's got a 2D engine from
Vivante..  Does it still rely on a blob from vivante to build the
final package?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Robert Nelson]

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Nick Apperley  wrote:
> Managed to get OpenJFX (open source version of JavaFX) working on the BBB,
> however it is running on Ubuntu. Got a sample JavaFX program (Ensemble)
> working by accident on X11 by specifying a renderer that isn't supported by
> OpenJFX. Key part here is that you must specify the unsupported renderer
> otherwise no JavaFX program will start, and some errors will appear in the
> terminal. Automatic renderer detection with OpenJFX is currently broken.

Hey Nick,

I'd love to see your setup that got it working on ubuntu.  I can setup
a *.deb package on: http://repos.rcn-ee.net/

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

You're not going to like this suggestion. Far better option to get JavaFX 
and OpenJFX working and performing well is to run JavaFX programs on a 
Wandboard  (eg the Dual version) since all the 
Vivante GPUs are supported, even graphics acceleration via both GPUs. Sadly 
the GPU on the BBB will *NEVER *be fully supported as long as Imagitech 
 refuse to completely release the 
specifications for all of its GPUs.

Plenty of people are in the same situation with trying to get the SGX GPU 
working on the BBB but to no avail. So much time spent trying to get the 
GPU supported. To make matters worse the Beaglebone Foundation's upcoming 
Beagleboard 
X15  also contains a SGX GPU. 
Extremely FRUSTRATING!

Much better off spending the money on a Wandboard to get JavaFX programs 
running easily. Ubuntu/Debian have a package containing the open source 
Vivante GPU driver which covers most of the Vivante GPUs (2D and 3D ones). 
Easy as pie to install the GPU driver via *apt-get* (single step). Wish it 
was the same with the BBB.

Why does the Beaglebone Foundation always insist on using a SGX GPU in 
every board that gets released?
 


On Monday, 24 November 2014 09:06:17 UTC+13, Nick Apperley wrote:
>
> Managed to get OpenJFX 
>  (open source version 
> of JavaFX) working on the BBB, however it is running on Ubuntu. Got a 
> sample JavaFX program (Ensemble) working by accident on X11 by specifying a 
> renderer that isn't supported by OpenJFX. Key part here is that you *must* 
> specify the unsupported renderer otherwise no JavaFX program will start, 
> and some errors will appear in the terminal. Automatic renderer detection 
> with OpenJFX is currently broken.
>
> Big mystery as to what renderer is being used since it isn't listed in the 
> Monocle  wiki page 
> on the OpenJDK website. X11 render doesn't work just in case anyone was 
> wondering. Note that there are no existing builds of OpenJFX available to 
> use on the BBB. A custom build must be created which is only compatible 
> with Java SE 8 Embedded and Java SE 8.
>
>
> On Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:19:16 UTC+13, gwhit...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Can any one post some updated info on getting JavaFX running on BBB with 
>> the latest Debian.  I'm new building kernels in Linux.  I'm trying to get 
>> JavaFX running on a BBB through the HDMI port and if possible a touchscreen 
>> like the BB-VIEW or 4D.  Any help would be greatly appreciated, even if its 
>> just a link to an article I may have missed in my searh.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:36:59 PM UTC-5, rodrigo...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi littlf...
>>> Did you find how to get jdk8 and javafx running on BBB?
>>> I'm trying to do the same (RasPi was to slow, so I want to see if BBB 
>>> does better).
>>> Also, how do you use sound in JavaFx+ RPi ??? (AudioClip and all media 
>>> doesnt work on RPi)
>>> Thanks
>>> (It's been 2 days fighting with BBB, any herlp will be appreciated)
>>> @rodrinauta
>>>
>>> El viernes, 10 de enero de 2014 05:32:28 UTC-3, littlef...@gmail.com 
>>> escribió:

 > Do you need the JavaFX 8 graphics capabilities?  If not, can you run 
 it with graphics disabled?

 I do need the graphics capabilities (otherwise I wouldn't use FX ;-) so 
 I cannot disable the graphics.

 > On the chance that there might be useful information in them, here 
 are two links for java I have from my days of noodling around with the 
 raspi: ...

 Thanks for the links but unfortunately they don't help. I have a Raspi 
 and I can also run my JavaFX applications on it without problems. But they 
 are rather slow on the Raspi so I wanted to do some performance tests with 
 the BBB hardware.

>>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Nick Apperley]

Managed to get OpenJFX  
(open source version of JavaFX) working on the BBB, however it is running 
on Ubuntu. Got a sample JavaFX program (Ensemble) working by accident on 
X11 by specifying a renderer that isn't supported by OpenJFX. Key part here 
is that you *must* specify the unsupported renderer otherwise no JavaFX 
program will start, and some errors will appear in the terminal. Automatic 
renderer detection with OpenJFX is currently broken.

Big mystery as to what renderer is being used since it isn't listed in the 
Monocle  wiki page 
on the OpenJDK website. X11 render doesn't work just in case anyone was 
wondering. Note that there are no existing builds of OpenJFX available to 
use on the BBB. A custom build must be created which is only compatible 
with Java SE 8 Embedded and Java SE 8.


On Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:19:16 UTC+13, gwhit...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Can any one post some updated info on getting JavaFX running on BBB with 
> the latest Debian.  I'm new building kernels in Linux.  I'm trying to get 
> JavaFX running on a BBB through the HDMI port and if possible a touchscreen 
> like the BB-VIEW or 4D.  Any help would be greatly appreciated, even if its 
> just a link to an article I may have missed in my searh.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:36:59 PM UTC-5, rodrigo...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi littlf...
>> Did you find how to get jdk8 and javafx running on BBB?
>> I'm trying to do the same (RasPi was to slow, so I want to see if BBB 
>> does better).
>> Also, how do you use sound in JavaFx+ RPi ??? (AudioClip and all media 
>> doesnt work on RPi)
>> Thanks
>> (It's been 2 days fighting with BBB, any herlp will be appreciated)
>> @rodrinauta
>>
>> El viernes, 10 de enero de 2014 05:32:28 UTC-3, littlef...@gmail.com 
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> > Do you need the JavaFX 8 graphics capabilities?  If not, can you run 
>>> it with graphics disabled?
>>>
>>> I do need the graphics capabilities (otherwise I wouldn't use FX ;-) so 
>>> I cannot disable the graphics.
>>>
>>> > On the chance that there might be useful information in them, here are 
>>> two links for java I have from my days of noodling around with the raspi: 
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Thanks for the links but unfortunately they don't help. I have a Raspi 
>>> and I can also run my JavaFX applications on it without problems. But they 
>>> are rather slow on the Raspi so I wanted to do some performance tests with 
>>> the BBB hardware.
>>>
>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[gwhitney77]

Can any one post some updated info on getting JavaFX running on BBB with 
the latest Debian.  I'm new building kernels in Linux.  I'm trying to get 
JavaFX running on a BBB through the HDMI port and if possible a touchscreen 
like the BB-VIEW or 4D.  Any help would be greatly appreciated, even if its 
just a link to an article I may have missed in my searh.

Thanks,
Greg


On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:36:59 PM UTC-5, rodrigo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi littlf...
> Did you find how to get jdk8 and javafx running on BBB?
> I'm trying to do the same (RasPi was to slow, so I want to see if BBB does 
> better).
> Also, how do you use sound in JavaFx+ RPi ??? (AudioClip and all media 
> doesnt work on RPi)
> Thanks
> (It's been 2 days fighting with BBB, any herlp will be appreciated)
> @rodrinauta
>
> El viernes, 10 de enero de 2014 05:32:28 UTC-3, littlef...@gmail.com 
> escribió:
>>
>> > Do you need the JavaFX 8 graphics capabilities?  If not, can you run it 
>> with graphics disabled?
>>
>> I do need the graphics capabilities (otherwise I wouldn't use FX ;-) so I 
>> cannot disable the graphics.
>>
>> > On the chance that there might be useful information in them, here are 
>> two links for java I have from my days of noodling around with the raspi: 
>> ...
>>
>> Thanks for the links but unfortunately they don't help. I have a Raspi 
>> and I can also run my JavaFX applications on it without problems. But they 
>> are rather slow on the Raspi so I wanted to do some performance tests with 
>> the BBB hardware.
>>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[rodrigoolguinc]

Hi littlf...
Did you find how to get jdk8 and javafx running on BBB?
I'm trying to do the same (RasPi was to slow, so I want to see if BBB does 
better).
Also, how do you use sound in JavaFx+ RPi ??? (AudioClip and all media 
doesnt work on RPi)
Thanks
(It's been 2 days fighting with BBB, any herlp will be appreciated)
@rodrinauta

El viernes, 10 de enero de 2014 05:32:28 UTC-3, littlef...@gmail.com 
escribió:
>
> > Do you need the JavaFX 8 graphics capabilities?  If not, can you run it 
> with graphics disabled?
>
> I do need the graphics capabilities (otherwise I wouldn't use FX ;-) so I 
> cannot disable the graphics.
>
> > On the chance that there might be useful information in them, here are 
> two links for java I have from my days of noodling around with the raspi: 
> ...
>
> Thanks for the links but unfortunately they don't help. I have a Raspi and 
> I can also run my JavaFX applications on it without problems. But they are 
> rather slow on the Raspi so I wanted to do some performance tests with the 
> BBB hardware.
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[littlefreaky36]

> Do you need the JavaFX 8 graphics capabilities?  If not, can you run it 
with graphics disabled?

I do need the graphics capabilities (otherwise I wouldn't use FX ;-) so I 
cannot disable the graphics.

> On the chance that there might be useful information in them, here are 
two links for java I have from my days of noodling around with the raspi: 
...

Thanks for the links but unfortunately they don't help. I have a Raspi and 
I can also run my JavaFX applications on it without problems. But they are 
rather slow on the Raspi so I wanted to do some performance tests with the 
BBB hardware.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Giuseppe Iellamo]

And it worked!

Thank you very much John and Robert!

Now I'm heading to QT5 realm!



Il giorno giovedì 9 gennaio 2014 21:50:46 UTC+1, john3909 ha scritto:
>
>
> From: Giuseppe Iellamo >
> Reply-To: >
> Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014 at 8:11 AM
> To: >
> Subject: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver 
> problem?)
>
> Sorry I can't help you but maybe you can help me.
>
> I'm using your exact configuration...
>
> But I still read 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *root@arm:/opt/Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_5_00_00_01/gfxsdkdemos/ogles2# 
> ./OGLES2ChameleonMan PVRShell: EGL 1.4 initializedExit message has been set 
> to: "PVRShell: Unable to create surface".InitAPI failed!PVRShell: Unable to 
> create surface*
> I've loaded the modules, I've installe the libraries in 
> *gfx_rel_es8.x*
>
> Please tell me what did you load from the Graphics SDK?
>
> Hi Giuseppe,
>
> Here is what I did to make this work:
>
> Download the Graphics SDK from here:
>
>
> http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/gfxsdk/5_01_00_01/index_FDS.html
>
> Use the hardfp version if you are using Debian.
>
> Make the file executable and install. Update the Rules.make file to 
> reflect your environment. Here is an example:
> =
> #  is your login userid
> HOME=/home/
>
> # Set Toolchain path. I installed Linaro via apt-get install 
> arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc
> CSTOOL_DIR=/usr
>
> # Set Tool chain prefix (ex arm-arago-linux-gnueabi- )
> CSTOOL_PREFIX=arm-linux-gnueabihf-
>
> # Set kernel installation path ( ex /home/user/linux-04.00.01.13 )
> KERNEL_INSTALL_DIR=${HOME}/GIT/linux-dev-3.12/KERNEL
>
> # Set Target filesystem path ( ex /home/user/targetfs )
> TARGETFS_INSTALL_DIR=/mnt//rootfs
>
> # Set installation folder
> GRAPHICS_INSTALL_DIR=${HOME}/Graphics/Graphics_SDK_5_01_00_01_hardfp
> ==
>
> Host > make BUILD=release OMAPES=8.x PM_RUNTIME=1 all
> # Insert SDCARD and I’m assuming the rootfs is mounted at 
> /mnt//rootfs from Rules.make file above
> Host > sudo make BUILD=release OMAPES=8.x PM_RUNTIME=1 install
>
> After you boot your BBB, run
> BBB > sudo /etc/init.d/335x-demo
> # Reboot
> BBB > sudo /etc/init.d/rc.pvr start
>
> Now run the demos and everything should work fine.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
> Il giorno giovedì 9 gennaio 2014 10:40:35 UTC+1, littlef...@gmail.com ha 
> scritto:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to run the newest JavaFX 8 snapshot release on the beaglebone 
>> black. So far I haven't got it running, the debug output shows the 
>> following:
>>
>> Multi-Threading Enabled
>> Prism pipeline init order: es2 
>> Using platform text rasterizer
>> Using java-based Pisces rasterizer
>> Using dirty region optimizations
>> Not using texture mask for primitives
>> Not forcing power of 2 sizes for textures
>> Using hardware CLAMP_TO_ZERO mode
>> Opting in for HiDPI pixel scaling
>> Prism pipeline name = com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> Loading ES2 native library ... prism_es2_eglfb
>> Loaded /opt/jdk1.8.0/jre/lib/ext/../arm/libprism_es2_eglfb.so from 
>> relative path
>> succeeded.
>> GLFactory using com.sun.prism.es2.EGLFBGLFactory
>> *eglGetConfigAttrib failed!(X)* Got class = class 
>> com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> GraphicsPipeline.createPipeline: error initializing pipeline 
>> com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> Graphics Device initialization failed for :  es2
>> Error initializing QuantumRenderer: no suitable pipeline found
>>
>>
>> What I've done:
>>
>> - Installed the Ubuntu 13.10 image from Robert C Nelson (
>> https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-console-armhf-2013-12-17.tar.xz
>> )
>> - Compiled the kernel from 
>> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/tree/am33x-v3.12 and 
>> installed it
>> - Used the 
>> sgx_build_modules.shscript
>>  from the git repo above to download and compile the SGX drivers
>> - Copied the drivers to the SD card and installed it on the BBB
>> - I had to manually load the omaplfb module, as it doesn't seem to be 
>> loaded automatically (bufferclass_ti and pvrsrvkm are loaded automatically)
>> - After that, the SDK demos (OGLES2ChameleonMan and OGLES2MagicLantern) 
>> seem to work fine
>> - When starting a JavaFX application, it fails during startup with the 
>> log mentioned above (tried to enable all possible debug output)
>>
>>
>> I've found the error string in the OpenJFX sources, but to get more 
>> information, I'd need to create a debug build of the prism-es2 module (or 
>> maybe from the whole OpenJDK), which at this point I don't know how to do. 
>> Maybe somebody knows what the problem might be.
>>
>> From 
>> /rt/modules/graphics/src/main/native-prism-es2/eglfb/EGLFBGLFactory.c:
>>
>> ...
>> if (!eglChooseConfig(egldisplay, eglAttrs, &config, 1, &numconfigs)) {
>> fprintf(stderr, "Failed to get a FBconfig with requested 
>> attrs\n");
>> //cleanup
>> return 0;
>> }
>>
>> #ifdef DEBUG
>> printf("eglChooseCo

Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[Rusty Wright]

Do you need the JavaFX 8 graphics capabilities?  If not, can you run it 
with graphics disabled?

On the chance that there might be useful information in them, here are two 
links for java I have from my days of noodling around with the raspi:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/java/raspberrypi-1704896.html

http://www.savagehomeautomation.com/raspi-jdk8


On Thursday, January 9, 2014 12:50:46 PM UTC-8, John Syne wrote:
>
>
> From: Giuseppe Iellamo >
> Reply-To: >
> Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014 at 8:11 AM
> To: >
> Subject: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver 
> problem?)
>
> Sorry I can't help you but maybe you can help me.
>
> I'm using your exact configuration...
>
> But I still read 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *root@arm:/opt/Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_5_00_00_01/gfxsdkdemos/ogles2# 
> ./OGLES2ChameleonMan PVRShell: EGL 1.4 initializedExit message has been set 
> to: "PVRShell: Unable to create surface".InitAPI failed!PVRShell: Unable to 
> create surface*
> I've loaded the modules, I've installe the libraries in 
> *gfx_rel_es8.x*
>
> Please tell me what did you load from the Graphics SDK?
>
> Hi Giuseppe,
>
> Here is what I did to make this work:
>
> Download the Graphics SDK from here:
>
>
> http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/gfxsdk/5_01_00_01/index_FDS.html
>
> Use the hardfp version if you are using Debian.
>
> Make the file executable and install. Update the Rules.make file to 
> reflect your environment. Here is an example:
> =
> #  is your login userid
> HOME=/home/
>
> # Set Toolchain path. I installed Linaro via apt-get install 
> arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc
> CSTOOL_DIR=/usr
>
> # Set Tool chain prefix (ex arm-arago-linux-gnueabi- )
> CSTOOL_PREFIX=arm-linux-gnueabihf-
>
> # Set kernel installation path ( ex /home/user/linux-04.00.01.13 )
> KERNEL_INSTALL_DIR=${HOME}/GIT/linux-dev-3.12/KERNEL
>
> # Set Target filesystem path ( ex /home/user/targetfs )
> TARGETFS_INSTALL_DIR=/mnt//rootfs
>
> # Set installation folder
> GRAPHICS_INSTALL_DIR=${HOME}/Graphics/Graphics_SDK_5_01_00_01_hardfp
> ==
>
> Host > make BUILD=release OMAPES=8.x PM_RUNTIME=1 all
> # Insert SDCARD and I’m assuming the rootfs is mounted at 
> /mnt//rootfs from Rules.make file above
> Host > sudo make BUILD=release OMAPES=8.x PM_RUNTIME=1 install
>
> After you boot your BBB, run
> BBB > sudo /etc/init.d/335x-demo
> # Reboot
> BBB > sudo /etc/init.d/rc.pvr start
>
> Now run the demos and everything should work fine.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
> Il giorno giovedì 9 gennaio 2014 10:40:35 UTC+1, littlef...@gmail.com ha 
> scritto:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to run the newest JavaFX 8 snapshot release on the beaglebone 
>> black. So far I haven't got it running, the debug output shows the 
>> following:
>>
>> Multi-Threading Enabled
>> Prism pipeline init order: es2 
>> Using platform text rasterizer
>> Using java-based Pisces rasterizer
>> Using dirty region optimizations
>> Not using texture mask for primitives
>> Not forcing power of 2 sizes for textures
>> Using hardware CLAMP_TO_ZERO mode
>> Opting in for HiDPI pixel scaling
>> Prism pipeline name = com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> Loading ES2 native library ... prism_es2_eglfb
>> Loaded /opt/jdk1.8.0/jre/lib/ext/../arm/libprism_es2_eglfb.so from 
>> relative path
>> succeeded.
>> GLFactory using com.sun.prism.es2.EGLFBGLFactory
>> *eglGetConfigAttrib failed!(X)* Got class = class 
>> com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> GraphicsPipeline.createPipeline: error initializing pipeline 
>> com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> Graphics Device initialization failed for :  es2
>> Error initializing QuantumRenderer: no suitable pipeline found
>>
>>
>> What I've done:
>>
>> - Installed the Ubuntu 13.10 image from Robert C Nelson (
>> https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-console-armhf-2013-12-17.tar.xz
>> )
>> - Compiled the kernel from 
>> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/tree/am33x-v3.12 and 
>> installed it
>> - Used the 
>> sgx_build_modules.shscript
>>  from the git repo above to download and compile the SGX drivers
>> - Copied the drivers to the SD card and installed it on the BBB
>> - I had to manually load the omaplfb module, as it doesn't seem to be 
>> loaded automatically (bufferclass_ti and pvrsrvkm are loaded automatically)
>> - After that, the SDK demos (OGLES2ChameleonMan and OGLES2MagicLantern) 
>> seem to work fine
>> - When starting a JavaFX application, it fails during startup with the 
>> log mentioned above (tried to enable all possible debug output)
>>
>>
>> I've found the error string in the OpenJFX sources, but to get more 
>> information, I'd need to create a debug build of the prism-es2 module (or 
>> maybe from the whole OpenJDK), which at this point I don't know how to do. 
>> Maybe somebody knows what the problem might be.
>>
>> From 
>> /rt/modules/graphics/src/main/native-prism-es2/eglfb/EGLFBGLFa

Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

[John Syne]

From:  Giuseppe Iellamo 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Thursday, January 9, 2014 at 8:11 AM
To:  
Subject:  [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver
problem?)

> Sorry I can't help you but maybe you can help me.
> 
> I'm using your exact configuration...
> 
> But I still read 
> 
> root@arm:/opt/Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_5_00_00_01/gfxsdkdemos/ogles2#
> ./OGLES2ChameleonMan
> PVRShell: EGL 1.4 initialized
> Exit message has been set to: "PVRShell: Unable to create surface
> ".
> InitAPI failed!
> PVRShell: Unable to create surface
> 
> I've loaded the modules, I've installe the libraries in
> gfx_rel_es8.x
> 
> Please tell me what did you load from the Graphics SDK?
Hi Giuseppe,

Here is what I did to make this work:

Download the Graphics SDK from here:

http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/gfxsdk/5_01_00_01/index_FDS.ht
ml

Use the hardfp version if you are using Debian.

Make the file executable and install. Update the Rules.make file to reflect
your environment. Here is an example:
=
#  is your login userid
HOME=/home/

# Set Toolchain path. I installed Linaro via apt-get install
arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc
CSTOOL_DIR=/usr

# Set Tool chain prefix (ex arm-arago-linux-gnueabi- )
CSTOOL_PREFIX=arm-linux-gnueabihf-

# Set kernel installation path ( ex /home/user/linux-04.00.01.13 )
KERNEL_INSTALL_DIR=${HOME}/GIT/linux-dev-3.12/KERNEL

# Set Target filesystem path ( ex /home/user/targetfs )
TARGETFS_INSTALL_DIR=/mnt//rootfs

# Set installation folder
GRAPHICS_INSTALL_DIR=${HOME}/Graphics/Graphics_SDK_5_01_00_01_hardfp
==

Host > make BUILD=release OMAPES=8.x PM_RUNTIME=1 all
# Insert SDCARD and I¹m assuming the rootfs is mounted at
/mnt//rootfs from Rules.make file above
Host > sudo make BUILD=release OMAPES=8.x PM_RUNTIME=1 install

After you boot your BBB, run
BBB > sudo /etc/init.d/335x-demo
# Reboot
BBB > sudo /etc/init.d/rc.pvr start

Now run the demos and everything should work fine.

Regards,
John
> 
> 
> Il giorno giovedì 9 gennaio 2014 10:40:35 UTC+1, littlef...@gmail.com ha
> scritto:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am trying to run the newest JavaFX 8 snapshot release on the beaglebone
>> black. So far I haven't got it running, the debug output shows the following:
>> 
>> Multi-Threading Enabled
>> Prism pipeline init order: es2
>> Using platform text rasterizer
>> Using java-based Pisces rasterizer
>> Using dirty region optimizations
>> Not using texture mask for primitives
>> Not forcing power of 2 sizes for textures
>> Using hardware CLAMP_TO_ZERO mode
>> Opting in for HiDPI pixel scaling
>> Prism pipeline name = com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> Loading ES2 native library ... prism_es2_eglfb
>> Loaded /opt/jdk1.8.0/jre/lib/ext/../arm/libprism_es2_eglfb.so from relative
>> path
>> succeeded.
>> GLFactory using com.sun.prism.es2.EGLFBGLFactory
>> eglGetConfigAttrib failed!(X) Got class = class com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> GraphicsPipeline.createPipeline: error initializing pipeline
>> com.sun.prism.es2.ES2Pipeline
>> Graphics Device initialization failed for :  es2
>> Error initializing QuantumRenderer: no suitable pipeline found
>> 
>> 
>> What I've done:
>> 
>> - Installed the Ubuntu 13.10 image from Robert C Nelson
>> (https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-console-armhf-2013-12-17.ta
>> r.xz)
>> - Compiled the kernel from
>> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/tree/am33x-v3.12 and installed it
>> - Used the sgx_build_modules.sh
>> > s.sh>  script from the git repo above to download and compile the SGX drivers
>> - Copied the drivers to the SD card and installed it on the BBB
>> - I had to manually load the omaplfb module, as it doesn't seem to be loaded
>> automatically (bufferclass_ti and pvrsrvkm are loaded automatically)
>> - After that, the SDK demos (OGLES2ChameleonMan and OGLES2MagicLantern) seem
>> to work fine
>> - When starting a JavaFX application, it fails during startup with the log
>> mentioned above (tried to enable all possible debug output)
>> 
>> 
>> I've found the error string in the OpenJFX sources, but to get more
>> information, I'd need to create a debug build of the prism-es2 module (or
>> maybe from the whole OpenJDK), which at this point I don't know how to do.
>> Maybe somebody knows what the problem might be.
>> 
>> From 
>> /rt/modules/graphics/src/main/native-prism-es2/eglfb/EGLFBGLFactory.
>> c:
>> 
>> ...
>> if (!eglChooseConfig(egldisplay, eglAttrs, &config, 1, &numconfigs)) {
>> fprintf(stderr, "Failed to get a FBconfig with requested attrs\n");
>> //cleanup
>> return 0;
>> }
>> 
>> #ifdef DEBUG
>> printf("eglChooseConfig return %d configs\n", numconfigs);
>> #endif
>> 
>> if (!eglGetConfigAttrib(egldisplay, config, EGL_CONFIG_ID, &configId)) {
>> fprintf(stderr, "eglGetConfigAttrib failed!");
>> return 0;
>> }
>> 
>> #ifdef DEBUG
>> printf("EGL: Using config #%d\