Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nokia770 - SC7 - Now Playing?

2007-12-14 Thread kdf

On 13-Dec-07, at 10:29 PM, gharris999 wrote:


 SVNs 15265  15266: testing with IE7  Safari: works, but there are  
 some
 cosmetic problems:


both look ok to me at 15288.  Not perfect, but in this case, as long  
the the controls are in view, the scroll bar fit is a god trade.
The important question here is whether the intended target for  
nokia770 skin works.

-kdf


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightly 13Dec - Firmware update?

2007-12-14 Thread booguss

oreillymj;248902 Wrote: 
 On both my SB2  SB3 I got an error at the first attempt to update the
 FW.
 
 A small (as in font) error message appeared on screen, something like
 err_bad_state
 
 The 2nd update attempt completed fine.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened to me as well, although
The 4th update attempt completed fine...

Cheers

/b00


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightly 13Dec - Firmware update?

2007-12-14 Thread Siduhe

mario21;248924 Wrote: 
 I downloaded the recent nightly build. I updated the firmware but I'm
 not able since the recent download to connect to Squeezenetwork Beta.
 The screen on my SB3 is blank. I must restart my SB3 and must stay on
 Squeezecenter.
 
 FYI, I have an iMac Intel 10.5.1.

Exactly the same issue here - on an XP box. Have updated the firmware,
but cannot connect to SN Beta.  SB screen goes blank and then dumps me
back to the Connect to [name of server screen.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightly 13Dec - Firmware update?

2007-12-14 Thread orangechicken

Sounds like there's multiple issues here then. Some are getting error
messages and, at least, I'm getting freezes when trying to update the
firmware.


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Song progress not updating on player UI

2007-12-14 Thread Phil Meyer
I selected an album to play, and the now playing screen said it was playing, 
only it wasn't.  I hit pause, and then unpaused and the first track started to 
play.  However, the progress bar and time remaining are still not updating.

SVN15288, WinXP.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Song progress not updating on player UI

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Herger
 I selected an album to play, and the now playing screen said it was  
 playing, only it wasn't.  I hit pause, and then unpaused and the first  
 track started to play.  However, the progress bar and time remaining are  
 still not updating.

And this is not with the MIS screensaver? Just making sure :-)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Herger
 I don't find the thin black line to be clear enough, especially when the  
 grey highlighting is on the dragged item.

You mean it's not visible enough?

 There is an inconsistency with the Edit Playlist D'n'D.  In that

I'm currently refactoring the d'n'd code in a common class which will be  
used by all d'n'd instances in the web gui. This should solve the  
inconsistencies.

 1. I often go to the playlists, select a playlist and then try to D'n'D  
 the songs on the playlist from that screen, only to realise that I am  
 highlighting the text on the songs, because I haven't chosen to edit the  
 playlist yet.

isn't this part of what Brian commented to your bug:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5797#c5 ?

 2. When I want to drag an item at the top of the list to the bottom of  
 the list, I have to drop it near the bottom of the screen, then scroll  
 down a bit, drag and drop a bit further down, scroll, etc. It may be  
 nice if the list could scroll up/down if the mouse is moved near the  
 top/bottom of the list.

This should work: as you get close to the end of the list, the panel  
should scroll automatically. Just tested in FF2  IE6 on Windows.

 3. As has been said already, it would be nice to be able to D'n'D  
 between left and right panels.

I did some more investigation, especially in the forums of the JS  
framework we're using. General consensus is: no way. Nobody was able to  
point to a web site where this would be described or used. d'n'd between  
HTML documents doesn't seem to be possible :-(.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nokia770 - SC7 - Now Playing?

2007-12-14 Thread atlslim

bklaas;248868 Wrote: 
 Unfortunately, I've only got an N800 in front of me now. 

Ben - is the browser on the N800 based on Mozilla Gecko? Apparently
that will be the default for IT OS 2008.

http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Update on Pandora in SlimServer 7

2007-12-14 Thread byKnight

I've been trying out SC7 for several weeks. At the moment I'm running
the Dec-13 nightly build.

If I set my two SB3s to synch and start playing one of my Pandora
stations on one of them, the both play in sync very nicely. w00t!!

But I've observed that after several tracks play the music stops. The
SB3 display says STOPPED. If press PLAY or NEXT on the remote, I get
the following message on the SB display.

HOURLY SKIP LIMIT EXCEEDED.

Sometimes, if I go back and re-select the same station, it will start
again, but stop after one song. Other times, when I go back and
re-select the same (or even any other station), it just keeps giving me
the same message.

At this point, I get irritated, and just switch back to SqueezeNetwork
to get to Pandora. But now, of course, I can't synch anymore.

If I use only a single SB3 to listen to a Pandora station via SC7, it
behaves as expected. That is, it plays continually without stoppage.

I know from experience that HOURLY SKIP LIMIT EXCEEDED is how Pandora
responds if you get too happy with the next button. It seems as if the
method for interfacing with Pandora with SC7 when using synchronization
results in the equivalent of NEXT being sent to Pandora for each new
track.

This feature is really the only reason I have for trying out SB7. Andy,
I hope this is something you can get fixed.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Update on Pandora in SlimServer 7

2007-12-14 Thread Andy Grundman
On Dec 14, 2007, at 8:05 AM, byKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:


 I've been trying out SC7 for several weeks. At the moment I'm running
 the Dec-13 nightly build.

 If I set my two SB3s to synch and start playing one of my Pandora
 stations on one of them, the both play in sync very nicely. w00t!!

 But I've observed that after several tracks play the music stops. The
 SB3 display says STOPPED. If press PLAY or NEXT on the remote, I get
 the following message on the SB display.

 HOURLY SKIP LIMIT EXCEEDED.

Hmm, this should not happen. I will give it a try today and see if I  
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nokia770 - SC7 - Now Playing?

2007-12-14 Thread bklaas

atlslim;248987 Wrote: 
 Ben - is the browser on the N800 based on Mozilla Gecko? Apparently that
 will be the default for IT OS 2008.
 
 http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/

Yes and no. It depends on if you are running OS2007 or OS2008.

I'm on OS2008, so I'm using Mozilla-based browsing now. Sounds like
your issues are Opera-based.

One thing I might investigate for future support of the 770 is to run a
desktop emulation of OS2006, which I think is possible.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread smr888

Thanks to the poster who pointed out how to turn off album cover art. 
On my network SlimServer would frequently pause for long periods while
supposedly trying to load cover art, dropping responsiveness to near
zero.  I am hopeful that turning off this feature will stop that.

Is there a way within the SlimServer settings to turn off cover art by
default?  I have searched for a setting for that but have not found it.
Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Some SC7 initial thoughts...

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Herger
 I've asked a few of my web developer friends about this and none could
 think of any examples. However, all expressed surprise that a web site
 would use frames.

I didn't want to use them neither - we stuck with them for simplicity. But otoh 
I'm not sure we could reliably manage dynamic paging without running into 
memory issues. Keeping stuff in a frame at least prevents this...

 I'm assuming that this is a legacy thing. If so, is there any
 likelihood there might be a full revamp of the web front-end at some
 point such that frames and the constantly refeshing page thing might be
 done away with? Or is this just an impossibility?

We're considering this. But we'll have keep an eye on browser's behaviour.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread smr888

Replying to myself . . . even with cover art turned off, SlimServer
still tries to load the large image that goes with the Now Playing
song, it appears.  The turn cover art off doesn't seem to turn it all
off.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightly 13Dec - Firmware update?

2007-12-14 Thread andyg

SN beta was down for a bit so that's not related to this issue.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Some SC7 initial thoughts...

2007-12-14 Thread ModelCitizen

Michael Herger;248719 Wrote: 
  I love the playlist drag and drop function but don't understand
 why it has been only partially implemented (i.e. rhs/playlist pane
 only).
 Implementing cross document d'n'd in HTML/JS isn't something easily
 done. If you know of a web page which does it, please let me know. I'd
 be interested to see how they're doing it. It's something we'd like to
 see, too.
I've asked a few of my web developer friends about this and none could
think of any examples. However, all expressed surprise that a web site
would use frames.

I'm assuming that this is a legacy thing. If so, is there any
likelihood there might be a full revamp of the web front-end at some
point such that frames and the constantly refeshing page thing might be
done away with? Or is this just an impossibility?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nokia770 - SC7 - Now Playing?

2007-12-14 Thread atlslim

bklaas;249007 Wrote: 
  Sounds like your issues are Opera-based.

Agreed - so the question now is what changes in SC7 made 'now playing'
inoperable for the default browser on the 770?


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Alien BBC not happy with SC7 ?

2007-12-14 Thread grifforama

Hi,

I managed to download the newest version of AleinBBC, and I've still
got Lame and mplayer in the same location as previously.
I dropped the plugin and bin folders to the Plugins folder within the
pref pane (I'm guessing this is the new way of doing it ?)
Nothing seems to be happening ?
Can anyone who has got it to work please advise ?

Thanks
Griff


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread steves4567

I edited my post but you must have seen the previous version.

If I grab on the words from or by I can Drag and Drop, but not
otherwise. This is what you mean by _except_ on links. This seems
really defective, since these two short words are a small part of the
line and everything else is a link. It also isn't how Fishbone works -
I can grab that anywhere.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Alien BBC not happy with SC7 ?

2007-12-14 Thread Neil Sleightholm

Which OS are you using?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread JJZolx

steves4567;249032 Wrote: 
 If I grab on the words from or by I can Drag and Drop, but not
 otherwise. This is what you mean by _except_ on links. This seems
 really defective, since these two short words are a small part of the
 line and everything else is a link. It also isn't how Fishbone works -
 I can grab that anywhere.

It should work almost exactly like Fishbone.  There's empty space
above, below and (often) to the right of the text links that you should
be able to grab.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread Phil Meyer
 I don't find the thin black line to be clear enough, especially when the  
 grey highlighting is on the dragged item.

You mean it's not visible enough?

Sorry, yes - not visible enough - clear could have two meanings :-)

 1. I often go to the playlists, select a playlist and then try to D'n'D  
 the songs on the playlist from that screen, only to realise that I am  
 highlighting the text on the songs, because I haven't chosen to edit the  
 playlist yet.
isn't this part of what Brian commented to your bug:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5797#c5 ?

I don't think so.  That CR is about how edit of playlist entries is handled, in 
terms of changing the title or URL of an entry, once you have clicked Edit 
Playlist.  I'm now wondering why there is the Playlist (with Save button) and 
Edit Playlist (with Done Editing link).  Playlist editing seems really rough to 
me.

Currently, from clicking on a playlist in the playlists list, the user can:
1. rename the playlist and press save.
2. play or add tracks to the current playlist.
3. Delete the playlist.
4. Click edit.  Then add a new Title/URL, delete an entry, or drag and drop 
tracks to change the track ordering.  Then click Done Editing to return to 
the playlist.  There's no other way back, and changes are committed, even 
though on the screen you return to there is a Save button.

Hence I was suggesting that the ability to add tracks to the playlist and D'n'D 
could be done on the main playlist editing screen, and do away with Add and 
Edit Playlist buttons.

This should work: as you get close to the end of the list, the panel  
should scroll automatically. Just tested in FF2  IE6 on Windows.

Doesn't work for me in FF2 or IE6.  I just tried again.  It doesn't scroll down 
whilst I am dragging, but if I release when the mouse is at the bottom of the 
screen, it drops the track and then scrolls down.

I did some more investigation, especially in the forums of the JS  
framework we're using. General consensus is: no way. Nobody was able to  
point to a web site where this would be described or used. d'n'd between  
HTML documents doesn't seem to be possible :-(

Pity.  Needs some way of selecting new tracks to add to a playlist.

Could open a new window to edit playlists - containing a list of playlist 
tracks and current playlist (or browse music library) so you can D'n'D between 
two lists in one HTML document?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Alien BBC not happy with SC7 ?

2007-12-14 Thread grifforama

I'm using 10.5.1


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] ANNOUNCE: Instant SqueezeCenter

2007-12-14 Thread nicketynick

Hmm, I like the looks of this. When I get some time to get it downloaded
and burned, I have just the machine for it
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Song progress not updating on player UI

2007-12-14 Thread Phil Meyer
And this is not with the MIS screensaver? Just making sure :-)

Unrelated to MIS screensaver.

I think I've discovered the issue.  Having got SVN latest, I took the new 
firmware again (a bug prevented firmware upgrade earlier in the day).  I 
updated the transporter, and it seemed to take okay.  I then experienced 
problems playing tracks - would not start a track until I paused/unpaused, and 
would not play the next song once the previous song had finished.

I just noticed that my other player was also awaiting a firmware upgrade.  
After I updated that, the problem disapeared on the transporter.

I'll file a bug report on that.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Herger
 You mean it's not visible enough?

 Sorry, yes - not visible enough - clear could have two meanings :-)

I'll think about this a bit more. Don't know yet how to handle it best.

 isn't this part of what Brian commented to your bug:
 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5797#c5 ?

 I don't think so.  That CR is about how edit of playlist entries is handled, 
 in terms of changing the title or URL of an entry, once you have clicked Edit 
 Playlist.  I'm now wondering why there is the Playlist (with Save button) and 
 Edit Playlist (with Done Editing link).  Playlist editing seems really rough 
 to me.

I thought that bug has become the general playlist editing needs rework bug. 
That two step thing really isn't intuitive. In the end it should behave 
identical to the favorites plugin.

 This should work: as you get close to the end of the list, the panel
 should scroll automatically. Just tested in FF2  IE6 on Windows.

 Doesn't work for me in FF2 or IE6.  I just tried again.  It doesn't scroll 
 down whilst I am dragging, but if I release when the mouse is at the bottom 
 of the screen, it drops the track and then scrolls down.

Try getting to the bottom slowly... Don't rush outside the frame.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Herger
 I now see that I can grab the gray bar and move the track, in addition

Oh, you didn't know that? Then I understand your trouble :-).

 to the from and by words.  If the cover is displayed, I can grab
 only the cover or the gray bar, since every piece of text is a link.

I'll see what I can do about the links. Would be best if they were draggable, 
too.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nokia770 - SC7 - Now Playing?

2007-12-14 Thread kdf
Quoting gharris999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 S...what to do?  Revert the 770 skin and make a N800 skin that
 shares code with Touch?

Basically it seems to come down to various support issues with get  
and post requests.  Post offers a lot of advantages, but I think  
the nokia770 only handles get.

Look in HTML/EN/html/global.js.

Find requesttype around line 83.

change post to get and see if that helps.

No need to split skins off just yet.  I'm very much able to revert it  
all if I give up, but I'm seeing progress so I'd like to keep trying  
things out.  Hopefully it can all be resolved without having to fully  
split nokia770 and Touch.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Update on Pandora in SlimServer 7

2007-12-14 Thread byKnight

Andy Grundman;248995 Wrote: 
 Hmm, this should not happen. I will give it a try today and see if I see
 the same issue.

Thanks, Andy. I've also opened up a new buug for this:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6366


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nokia770 - SC7 - Now Playing?

2007-12-14 Thread gharris999

OK, I just updated my 770 to OS 2006, ver 3.2006.49-2.  No changes to
the above behavior.  Some things do work.  I can initiate playback from
any browsable page, e.g. New Music, etc.  I can clear the playlist.  But
the regular playback controls appear broken.

S...what to do?  Revert the 770 skin and make a N800 skin that
shares code with Touch?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread ModelCitizen

Sorry if this has been mentioned before here... it's been mentioned in
the Jive forum... 

Can the default Album Art image not be used for any other purpose? A
different image should be used for All Songs for instance.

Something nice and simple... like the Logica logo perhaps.

;-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Updated New Default skin

2007-12-14 Thread Phil Meyer
I'll think about this a bit more. Don't know yet how to handle it best.

Some suggestions to throw in the pot:
1. Make the black insertion line thicker.
2. Display Up/Down arrows below/above the black isertion line, to point where 
the insertion will occur too.
3. Show the item in its new position, rather than floating where the mouse is.
4. Highlight the dragged item and the item it is dragged over in different 
colours.
5. Display the dragged item a bit to the right, so the insertion line is 
visible on the left half, and some of the draggable item on the right half of 
the current playlist panel.

Another issue with showing the isertion point is that it sometimes doesn't seem 
to calculate it correctly, or not at all.  It seems that if you are dragging an 
item above from where it used to be, the isertion point is the position above 
the item it is dragged on to.  Dragging lower that the current positio, 
displays the isertion point after the item it is dragged on to.  However, 
sometimes if I drag up and down the list for a bit, this rule seems to go 
astray, and the insertion line is sometimes above or below the item I am 
hovering above.  Sometimes the line doesn't appear at all (eg. when hovering on 
the last item, I would expect the line to be at the very bottom, but it's not 
there and when I release, the item stays where it was picked up from.

Sorry, can't be more exact than that at the moment - it doesn't quite seem 
right all of the time, and I haven't spotted the pattern yet.

I thought that bug has become the general playlist editing needs rework bug. 
That two step thing really isn't intuitive. In the end it should behave 
identical to the favorites plugin.

Okay.

Try getting to the bottom slowly... Don't rush outside the frame.

Oooh. It does work if I hover over the last visible item and wait a second.  
The mouse pointer has to be a few pixels above the bottom of the panel - I 
think I was slowly dragging down and stopping within 1 or 2 pixels of the 
bottom before.
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[SlimDevices: Beta] Playlists...sound drops

2007-12-14 Thread grifforama

Hi,

I come across aproblem when I'm loading up playlists, that as the
artwork is loading in the right hand screen, the sound cuts out...is
there any way of stopping this ?

Thanks


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Static sound on 24bit/96kHz material

2007-12-14 Thread thomsens

Mark Lanctot;248770 Wrote: 
 It depends on the track, that's what the one I was using did but if you
 note someone else provided a test track that had a flutter/static sound
 right at the very beginning, comment #7.

So should I tag on my comments to this bug?  It seems clear replaygain
is not my issue.  Unless just having it in the file can do it
regardless of whether it's used.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Playlists...sound drops

2007-12-14 Thread icdsgnr

let me guess ... you have a squeeze box 1 (SB1).  Don't hold your
breath.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6344


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nokia770 - SC7 - Now Playing?

2007-12-14 Thread gharris999

Ok, stopping SqueezeCenter (on Fedora 7), editing HTML/EN/html/global.js
so that line 83 reads ' var requesttype = 'get';' and restarting
SqueezeCenter...


..no change in the behavior described above.  The Now Playing page
doesn't display the playing track and none of the play/pause controls
work.

My 770 has been mothballed for about 6 months, so I really don't know
when this stuff started acting up.


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