[Bf-committers] Need some help in building the soc-2011-garlic branch

[xiangquan xiao]

svn path:
https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/branches/soc-2011-garlic

Hi,
I have been developing it with ubuntu+cmake all the way. As the GSoC's
"Pencil down" comes,
I need to confirm it works well with cmake and scons, as well as all
platforms.

===
What I have done to building rules:
1. /source/blender/editors/*/CMakelists.txt
/source/blender/editors/*/SConstruct:
add ../../blenfont to inc path.

2. move /release/bin/.blender/fonts to DATAFILES/fonts when installing.
/SConstruct:
if 'locale' in dp:-->   if 'locale' in dp or 'fonts' in dp:
/source/creator/CMakeLists.txt:
install(
DIRECTORY
${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/release/bin/.blender/fonts
${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/release/bin/.blender/locale
DESTINATION ${TARGETDIR_VER}/datafiles
PATTERN ".svn" EXCLUDE
)
===
As you can see, these modifications seem just fine. But only linux+cmake
works well for me.

linux+scons: compile error, cannot find buildinfo.c and creator.c
windows(MSVC 2010 Express)+scons: link error when generate the final
blender.exe, a lot of LNK2001 errors(unresolved external symbols)
windows(MSVC 2010 Express)+cmake: compile well, but can only run in release
mode, badly. Screen shot attachmented. And got error when build PACKAGE:
CPack error : CPACK_PACKAGE_EXECUTABLES should contain pairs of 
and 

=
I don't know whether these are inherited from trunk, or my error code /
environment.
So I need some help to address the problems, as well as test on MAC and BSD.
You can checkout the code and build. Email feedback and patches are very
welcomed.
Thanks very much!

Regards!
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Re: [Bf-committers] Need some help in building the soc-2011-garlic branch

[xiangquan xiao]

Thank all!
I ever thought I had subscribed this list. But negligently I hadn't.
I've read all replies in the list archive. It helps a lot. I'll fix the bugs
finded. Thanks again!

2011/8/13 xiangquan xiao 

> svn path:
> https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/branches/soc-2011-garlic
>
> Hi,
> I have been developing it with ubuntu+cmake all the way. As the GSoC's
> "Pencil down" comes,
> I need to confirm it works well with cmake and scons, as well as all
> platforms.
>
> ===
> What I have done to building rules:
> 1. /source/blender/editors/*/CMakelists.txt
> /source/blender/editors/*/SConstruct:
> add ../../blenfont to inc path.
>
> 2. move /release/bin/.blender/fonts to DATAFILES/fonts when installing.
> /SConstruct:
> if 'locale' in dp:-->   if 'locale' in dp or 'fonts' in dp:
> /source/creator/CMakeLists.txt:
> install(
> DIRECTORY
> ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/release/bin/.blender/fonts
> ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/release/bin/.blender/locale
> DESTINATION ${TARGETDIR_VER}/datafiles
> PATTERN ".svn" EXCLUDE
> )
> ===
> As you can see, these modifications seem just fine. But only linux+cmake
> works well for me.
>
> linux+scons: compile error, cannot find buildinfo.c and creator.c
> windows(MSVC 2010 Express)+scons: link error when generate the final
> blender.exe, a lot of LNK2001 errors(unresolved external symbols)
> windows(MSVC 2010 Express)+cmake: compile well, but can only run in release
> mode, badly. Screen shot attachmented. And got error when build PACKAGE:
> CPack error : CPACK_PACKAGE_EXECUTABLES should contain pairs of 
> and 
>
> =
> I don't know whether these are inherited from trunk, or my error code /
> environment.
> So I need some help to address the problems, as well as test on MAC and
> BSD.
> You can checkout the code and build. Email feedback and patches are very
> welcomed.
> Thanks very much!
>
> Regards!
>
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Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

Sorry I'm late for this disscussion. Just flied back to Beijing today, for
the new semester.

Actually, compiling and linking .mo is not a task for building. I ever
thought add building
commands like "make update_po", "make update_mo" as some other applications
do.
But finally, for simplicity I just put some update_XXX.py scripts under /po
to do these works.
Related doc:
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Xiaoxiangquan/GoogleSummerOfCode/2011/Internationalization/notes_for_translators
Section:update PO & update MO

About msvc+scons, I failed to build with this environment.
The only rule added by Garlic is coping the unifont.ttf.gz to
[datafiles]/fonts/ when "make install".
Maybe you can help fix it if there is any bug on this. In my tests, msvc+cmake
will do it correctly.

The worst thing is that as far as I know no one has run Garlic successfully
under windows. Dingto
also failed at the last link stage. Now I'm asking jesterkin for help on
this. So I'm very sorry that
I haven't any idea about the windows locale issules, yet.

2011/8/27 Dalai Felinto 

> Hi,
>
> I'm on windows and the build doesn't seem to be copying the files properly
> (and compiling and linking the .mo).
> I'm currently using msvc+scons and had to manually create the datafiles
> folder.
>
> I would like to hear from Xiao (sorry if this is not your first name ;)
> what's the best way to help testing it.
> In his video he mentions the computer needs to have "locale". But in
> windows that should be automatic afaik.
>
> It would be nice if the branch could be merged again from trunk so the
> ffmpeg (in the mean time I patched my scons config file to use the correct
> files).
>
> --
> Dalai
>
>
> 2011/8/26 Yousef Hurfoush 
>
>>
>> i confirmed that not all these files exists in the compiled blender, i add
>> the missing from the list you sent me, console error is gone, but still when
>> i change the language and restart it doesn't change!!!
>>
>>
>> > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:20:42 -0500
>> > From: m...@cs.umn.edu
>> > To: bf-committers@blender.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch
>> >
>> > In reply to Yousef Hurfoush (ba...@msn.com):
>> >
>> > > From: Yousef Hurfoush 
>> > > To: blender foundation committers 
>> > > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:16:22 +
>> > > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic
>> Branch
>> > > Reply-To: bf-blender developers 
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > You'll want a layout of files similar to this relative to the
>> blender
>> > > > binary: http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~mein/blender/garlic.txt
>> > >
>> > > i think they must be in the garlic branch!!!, if not where can i get
>> them?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Yes sorry they are, I was just explaining where files are put on a Make
>> > install.  You'll need to look through the source dir to find the files
>> > after you compile things.
>> >
>> > Kent
>> >
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Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

Thanks!

This must be a codec problem specially for windows. I'll try to solve it.

2011/8/29 Nathan Letwory 

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> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi Xiangquan Xiao,
>
> I've made a commit to your branch for the SConstruct. For the file
> copying a non-existing location was probed, this is now fixed and all
> locales and the unicode font are being copied nicely.
>
> Running the garlic blender results in utf8 decode error coming from the
> _() function: http://www.pasteall.org/24361
>
> For instance the properties_data_empty.py looks like
> http://www.pasteall.org/24362/python with line 34 being the _() call.
>
> /Nathan
>
> On 27.8.2011 18:32, xiangquan xiao wrote:
> > Sorry I'm late for this disscussion. Just flied back to Beijing today,
> for
> > the new semester.
> >
> > Actually, compiling and linking .mo is not a task for building. I ever
> > thought add building
> > commands like "make update_po", "make update_mo" as some other
> applications
> > do.
> > But finally, for simplicity I just put some update_XXX.py scripts under
> /po
> > to do these works.
> > Related doc:
> >
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Xiaoxiangquan/GoogleSummerOfCode/2011/Internationalization/notes_for_translators
> > Section:update PO & update MO
> >
> > About msvc+scons, I failed to build with this environment.
> > The only rule added by Garlic is coping the unifont.ttf.gz to
> > [datafiles]/fonts/ when "make install".
> > Maybe you can help fix it if there is any bug on this. In my tests,
> msvc+cmake
> > will do it correctly.
> >
> > The worst thing is that as far as I know no one has run Garlic
> successfully
> > under windows. Dingto
> > also failed at the last link stage. Now I'm asking jesterkin for help on
> > this. So I'm very sorry that
> > I haven't any idea about the windows locale issules, yet.
> >
> > 2011/8/27 Dalai Felinto 
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm on windows and the build doesn't seem to be copying the files
> properly
> >> (and compiling and linking the .mo).
> >> I'm currently using msvc+scons and had to manually create the datafiles
> >> folder.
> >>
> >> I would like to hear from Xiao (sorry if this is not your first name ;)
> >> what's the best way to help testing it.
> >> In his video he mentions the computer needs to have "locale". But in
> >> windows that should be automatic afaik.
> >>
> >> It would be nice if the branch could be merged again from trunk so the
> >> ffmpeg (in the mean time I patched my scons config file to use the
> correct
> >> files).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dalai
> >>
> >>
> >> 2011/8/26 Yousef Hurfoush 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> i confirmed that not all these files exists in the compiled blender, i
> add
> >>> the missing from the list you sent me, console error is gone, but still
> when
> >>> i change the language and restart it doesn't change!!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:20:42 -0500
> >>>> From: m...@cs.umn.edu
> >>>> To: bf-committers@blender.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic
> Branch
> >>>>
> >>>> In reply to Yousef Hurfoush (ba...@msn.com):
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Yousef Hurfoush 
> >>>>> To: blender foundation committers 
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:16:22 +
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic
> >>> Branch
> >>>>> Reply-To: bf-blender developers 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You'll want a layout of files similar to this relative to the
> >>> blender
> >>>>>> binary: http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~mein/blender/garlic.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i think they must be in the garlic branch!!!, if not where can i get
> >>> them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes sorry they are, I was just explaining where files are put on a
> Make
> >>>> install.  You'll need to look through the source dir to find the files
> >>>> after you compile things.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kent
> >

Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

Actually I don't know much about Windows's locale setting. So the wiki is
really too short.

On linux, I tested that only when locale is set, and sometimes even set LANG
and LANGUAGE,
the GNU gettext will work.
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#integrating_howto

In my test, it just changes locale temporarily and locally for itself.

2011/8/30 Nathan Letwory 

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> On 29.8.2011 20:28, Dalai Felinto wrote:
> > Hi Kent,
> >> That means you don't have the locale installed on your machine.
> >> You'll need to do something like this:
> >> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_ <
> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_article.aspx?id=5982>
> > article.aspx?id=5982 
> >
> > Thanks for the link. But from windows it ask me to pick a language "to
> use
> > when displaying test in programs that do not support Unicode." (and
> requires
> > restarting windows).
> >
> > Why do we need that? As far as I know blf is doing all the hard work of
> > handling unicode. Maybe we only need to tell Windows that Blender
> supports
> > unicode?
> > Indeed awhile back I had Blender patched to use a unicode font
> (droidsans)
> > as the default and could have UI files in Japanese with no problems. (and
> > BGE can handle this as well).
>
> To me it also seems strange to have to change system locale to be able
> to show GUI in different language. For comparison: I can easily change
> Chrome GUI language to different languages without having to change
> system locale (just tested with Bengali and Chinese - luckily menu item
> ordering doesn't change with different items!). Old Blender didn't need
> system locale changes to show different languages either.
>
> IMO there shouldn't be the need for a locale to be specifically
> installed on a user system for localisation to work.
>
> /Nathan
>
> - --
> Nathan Letwory
> Letwory Interactive | Studio Lumikuu
> http://www.letworyinteractive.com | http://www.lumikuu.com
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Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

One of the problem may be locale names. See
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x99tb11d(v=vs.80).aspx
We set "en_US" for linux, while should set "english" for Windows.

Keep on debuging.

2011/8/30 xiangquan xiao 

> Actually I don't know much about Windows's locale setting. So the wiki is
> really too short.
>
> On linux, I tested that only when locale is set, and sometimes even set
> LANG and LANGUAGE,
> the GNU gettext will work.
> http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#integrating_howto
>
> In my test, it just changes locale temporarily and locally for itself.
>
>
> 2011/8/30 Nathan Letwory 
>
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>> On 29.8.2011 20:28, Dalai Felinto wrote:
>> > Hi Kent,
>> >> That means you don't have the locale installed on your machine.
>> >> You'll need to do something like this:
>> >> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_ <
>> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_article.aspx?id=5982>
>> > article.aspx?id=5982 <http://dev.ektron.com/kb_article.aspx?id=5982>
>> >
>> > Thanks for the link. But from windows it ask me to pick a language "to
>> use
>> > when displaying test in programs that do not support Unicode." (and
>> requires
>> > restarting windows).
>> >
>> > Why do we need that? As far as I know blf is doing all the hard work of
>> > handling unicode. Maybe we only need to tell Windows that Blender
>> supports
>> > unicode?
>> > Indeed awhile back I had Blender patched to use a unicode font
>> (droidsans)
>> > as the default and could have UI files in Japanese with no problems.
>> (and
>> > BGE can handle this as well).
>>
>> To me it also seems strange to have to change system locale to be able
>> to show GUI in different language. For comparison: I can easily change
>> Chrome GUI language to different languages without having to change
>> system locale (just tested with Bengali and Chinese - luckily menu item
>> ordering doesn't change with different items!). Old Blender didn't need
>> system locale changes to show different languages either.
>>
>> IMO there shouldn't be the need for a locale to be specifically
>> installed on a user system for localisation to work.
>>
>> /Nathan
>>
>> - --
>> Nathan Letwory
>> Letwory Interactive | Studio Lumikuu
>> http://www.letworyinteractive.com | http://www.lumikuu.com
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Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

I did the same change to bf_lang.c, too. But as you said, still couldn't
work.

Then according to
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv
 <http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>I wrote a bat:
set LANG=zh_CN
blender.exe

It works! I have committed some related fix. You can have a try.
The _envset("LANG","zh_CN") call seems successful, but I still need to set
it before
running Blender. That's very strange. I also tested call system("set
LANG=zh_CN"), failed again.

After all, we can make Garlic work on windows now. If you or jesterKing have
some time, pls
make a windows build for me. I'd like to share it with BlenderCN eagerly. I
have got errors on
"make PACKAGE" all the time. (:

2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 

> I think we are in the right track here. After applying this patch [1] I can
> change languages without the console error.
> The only problem now is that the interface does not change (even though I
> set to translate buttons, tooltip and the other one -- in the outliner).
>
> Some languages (i.e. Arabic) are not in the Microsoft list. I'm afraid that
> for them we may need to change local in the computer.
>
> [1] - http://www.pasteall.org/24448 (I did it only for English,
> Portuguese,
> Chinese, Japanese and Korean), following this:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/39cwe7zf(v=VS.80).aspx
>
> --
> Dalai
>
> 2011/8/30 xiangquan xiao 
>
> > One of the problem may be locale names. See
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x99tb11d(v=vs.80).aspx
> > We set "en_US" for linux, while should set "english" for Windows.
> >
> > Keep on debuging.
> >
> > 2011/8/30 xiangquan xiao 
> >
> > > Actually I don't know much about Windows's locale setting. So the wiki
> is
> > > really too short.
> > >
> > > On linux, I tested that only when locale is set, and sometimes even set
> > > LANG and LANGUAGE,
> > > the GNU gettext will work.
> > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#integrating_howto
> > >
> > > In my test, it just changes locale temporarily and locally for itself.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2011/8/30 Nathan Letwory 
> > >
> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> > >>
> > >> On 29.8.2011 20:28, Dalai Felinto wrote:
> > >> > Hi Kent,
> > >> >> That means you don't have the locale installed on your machine.
> > >> >> You'll need to do something like this:
> > >> >> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_ <
> > >> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_article.aspx?id=5982>
> > >> > article.aspx?id=5982 <http://dev.ektron.com/kb_article.aspx?id=5982
> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks for the link. But from windows it ask me to pick a language
> "to
> > >> use
> > >> > when displaying test in programs that do not support Unicode." (and
> > >> requires
> > >> > restarting windows).
> > >> >
> > >> > Why do we need that? As far as I know blf is doing all the hard work
> > of
> > >> > handling unicode. Maybe we only need to tell Windows that Blender
> > >> supports
> > >> > unicode?
> > >> > Indeed awhile back I had Blender patched to use a unicode font
> > >> (droidsans)
> > >> > as the default and could have UI files in Japanese with no problems.
> > >> (and
> > >> > BGE can handle this as well).
> > >>
> > >> To me it also seems strange to have to change system locale to be able
> > >> to show GUI in different language. For comparison: I can easily change
> > >> Chrome GUI language to different languages without having to change
> > >> system locale (just tested with Bengali and Chinese - luckily menu
> item
> > >> ordering doesn't change with different items!). Old Blender didn't
> need
> > >> system locale changes to show different languages either.
> > >>
> > >> IMO there shouldn't be the need for a locale to be specifically
> > >> installed on a user system for localisation to work.
> > >>
> > >> /Nathan
> > >>
> > >> - --
> > >> Nathan Letwory
> > >> Letwory Interactive | Studio Lumikuu
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Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

Thanks, I'll merge it now.

2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 

> Garlic test builds on:
> http://www.graphicall.org/dfelinto
> (32 and 64 windows builds - make sure you get the right one)
>
> --
> Dalai
>
> 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
>
> > Sure I can do the build.
> > But could  you merge the trunk into the branch to update the source to
> > >2.59?
> >
> >
> >
> > xiangquan xiao  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I did the same change to bf_lang.c, too. But as you said, still couldn't
> > work.
> >
> > Then according to
> > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv
> >  <http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>I wrote a
> > bat:
> > set LANG=zh_CN
> > blender.exe
> >
> > It works! I have committed some related fix. You can have a try.
> > The _envset("LANG","zh_CN") call seems successful, but I still need to
> set
> > it before
> > running Blender. That's very strange. I also tested call system("set
> > LANG=zh_CN"), failed again.
> >
> > After all, we can make Garlic work on windows now. If you or jesterKing
> > have
> > some time, pls
> > make a windows build for me. I'd like to share it with BlenderCN eagerly.
> I
> > have got errors on
> > "make PACKAGE" all the time. (:
> >
> > 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
> >
> > > I think we are in the right track here. After applying this patch [1] I
> > can
> > > change languages without the console error.
> > > The only problem now is that the interface does not change (even though
> I
> > > set to translate buttons, tooltip and the other one -- in the
> outliner).
> > >
> > > Some languages (i.e. Arabic) are not in the Microsoft list. I'm afraid
> > that
> > > for them we may need to change local in the computer.
> > >
> > > [1] - http://www.pasteall.org/24448 (I did it only for English,
> > > Portuguese,
> > > Chinese, Japanese and Korean), following this:
> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/39cwe7zf(v=VS.80).aspx
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dalai
> > >
> > > 2011/8/30 xiangquan xiao 
> > >
> > > > One of the problem may be locale names. See
> > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x99tb11d(v=vs.80).aspx
> > > > We set "en_US" for linux, while should set "english" for Windows.
> > > >
> > > > Keep on debuging.
> > > >
> > > > 2011/8/30 xiangquan xiao 
> > > >
> > > > > Actually I don't know much about Windows's locale setting. So the
> > wiki
> > > is
> > > > > really too short.
> > > > >
> > > > > On linux, I tested that only when locale is set, and sometimes even
> > set
> > > > > LANG and LANGUAGE,
> > > > > the GNU gettext will work.
> > > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#integrating_howto
> > > > >
> > > > > In my test, it just changes locale temporarily and locally for
> > itself.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/8/30 Nathan Letwory 
> > > > >
> > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > >> Hash: SHA1
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 29.8.2011 20:28, Dalai Felinto wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi Kent,
> > > > >> >> That means you don't have the locale installed on your machine.
> > > > >> >> You'll need to do something like this:
> > > > >> >> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_ <
> > > > >> http://dev.ektron.com/kb_article.aspx?id=5982>
> > > > >> > article.aspx?id=5982 <
> > http://dev.ektron.com/kb_article.aspx?id=5982
> > > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks for the link. But from windows it ask me to pick a
> language
> > > "to
> > > > >> use
> > > > >> > when displaying test in programs that do not support Unicode."
> > (and
> > > > >> requires
> > > > >> > restarting windows).
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Why do we need that? As far as I know blf is doing all the hard
> > work
> > > > of
> > > > >> > handling unicode. Maybe we only need to tel

Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

The situation that we must execute a "set LANG=ko_KR" is exactly the one
described here[1]<http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>
.
I followed the steps but still no improvement:

- using -MD when compiling blenlib, where _putenv() is called.
- using SetEnvironmentVariableA, but actually Win7 hasn't this API.

Maybe you can give it a try in case I miss something.

[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv

2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 

> Hi,
>
> Blender32 is working "fine", but Blender64 (scons at least) is not working
> at all (it even crashes the system in some cases).
> By fine I mean, you need to set LANG before running Blender and that's it.
> The option in the User Preferences panel is always ignored.
>
> The console from a Korean system:
> 1) Without .bat:
> :>blender.exe
> : ndof: dead zone ...
> : set LANG=ko_KR
> : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> : found bundled python: ...
> UI IN ENGLISH
>
> 2) With .bat:
> :>set LANG=ko_KR
> :>blender.exe
> : ndof: dead zone (...)
> : set LANG=ko_KR
> : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> : found bundled python: (...)
> UI IN KOREAN
>
> *) note, if the Blender path has any Asian character it crashes Blender
> (but
> this is a known bug afaik)
> Tested/confirmed in my system+builds and in Nathan L.
>
> --
> Dalai
>
> 2011/8/31 xiangquan xiao 
>
> > Thanks, I'll merge it now.
> >
> > 2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 
> >
> > > Garlic test builds on:
> > > http://www.graphicall.org/dfelinto
> > > (32 and 64 windows builds - make sure you get the right one)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dalai
> > >
> > > 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
> > >
> > > > Sure I can do the build.
> > > > But could  you merge the trunk into the branch to update the source
> to
> > > > >2.59?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > xiangquan xiao  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did the same change to bf_lang.c, too. But as you said, still
> > couldn't
> > > > work.
> > > >
> > > > Then according to
> > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv
> > > >  <http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>I
> wrote
> > a
> > > > bat:
> > > > set LANG=zh_CN
> > > > blender.exe
> > > >
> > > > It works! I have committed some related fix. You can have a try.
> > > > The _envset("LANG","zh_CN") call seems successful, but I still need
> to
> > > set
> > > > it before
> > > > running Blender. That's very strange. I also tested call system("set
> > > > LANG=zh_CN"), failed again.
> > > >
> > > > After all, we can make Garlic work on windows now. If you or
> jesterKing
> > > > have
> > > > some time, pls
> > > > make a windows build for me. I'd like to share it with BlenderCN
> > eagerly.
> > > I
> > > > have got errors on
> > > > "make PACKAGE" all the time. (:
> > > >
> > > > 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
> > > >
> > > > > I think we are in the right track here. After applying this patch
> [1]
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > change languages without the console error.
> > > > > The only problem now is that the interface does not change (even
> > though
> > > I
> > > > > set to translate buttons, tooltip and the other one -- in the
> > > outliner).
> > > > >
> > > > > Some languages (i.e. Arabic) are not in the Microsoft list. I'm
> > afraid
> > > > that
> > > > > for them we may need to change local in the computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] - http://www.pasteall.org/24448 (I did it only for English,
> > > > > Portuguese,
> > > > > Chinese, Japanese and Korean), following this:
> > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/39cwe7zf(v=VS.80).aspx
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dalai
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/8/30 xiangquan xiao 
> > > > >
> > > > > > One of the problem may be locale names. See
> > > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x99tb11d(v=vs.80).aspx
> > > > > > We set "

[Bf-committers] Garlic issues before merging

[xiangquan xiao]

1. Cannot set LANG in the environment variable properly. Before running
blender.exe users should execute a command like:
set LANG=zh_CN
This situation has been described in Gettext
FAQ.
But nothing change though I followed the suggested steps.


2. To reply the meeting notes, I didn't test the Win64 build. But my Win64
runs a Win32 build well.


3. According to Ton, we may remove the environment variable related
operations. That's absolutely better, and the issue-1 will disappear.


4. Users cannot select font from the system. so anther font selection button
can be added after the language selection button.


5. In wm_init_exit.c, The call to WM_read_homefile() has been splited as
WM_read_homefile() and WM_read_homefile_proc(), between which we call
BLF_lang_set() to init language setting.

Because we should read the user preference file to init language setting,
which  WM_read_homefile_proc has some operations that need the language
setting has been initialed.

But today I heard from Ton that we have system-wide refresh all notifier for
these cases. So this design can be abandoned.

=

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Re: [Bf-committers] Garlic issues before merging

[xiangquan xiao]

2011/9/5 xiangquan xiao 

> 1. Cannot set LANG in the environment variable properly. Before running
> blender.exe users should execute a command like:
> set LANG=zh_CN
> This situation has been described in Gettext 
> FAQ<http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>.
> But nothing change though I followed the suggested steps.
>
>
> 2. To reply the meeting notes, I didn't test the Win64 build. But my Win64
> runs a Win32 build well.
>
>
> 3. According to Ton, we may remove the environment variable related
> operations. That's absolutely better, and the issue-1 will disappear.
>
>
> 4. Users cannot select font from the system. so anther font selection
> button can be added after the language selection button.
>
>
> 5. In wm_init_exit.c, The call to WM_read_homefile() has been splited as
> WM_read_homefile() and WM_read_homefile_proc(), between which we call
> BLF_lang_set() to init language setting.
>
> Because we should read the user preference file to init language setting,
> which  WM_read_homefile_proc has some operations that need the language
> setting has been initialed.
>

which -> while


> But today I heard from Ton that we have system-wide refresh all notifier
> for these cases. So this design can be abandoned.
>
> =
>
> I‘ll be always on line at night, at least 14:00-17:00 UTC.
>
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Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

Hi, I've fixed the problem of setting environment. Pls remove the previous
windows builds of garlic if possible, as most people actually don't know how
to run it well.

And if you still have the workspace, maybe you can build a new version for
me. Or just keep the users waiting for 2.60.

Thanks! :)

2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 

> Hi,
>
> Blender32 is working "fine", but Blender64 (scons at least) is not working
> at all (it even crashes the system in some cases).
> By fine I mean, you need to set LANG before running Blender and that's it.
> The option in the User Preferences panel is always ignored.
>
> The console from a Korean system:
> 1) Without .bat:
> :>blender.exe
> : ndof: dead zone ...
> : set LANG=ko_KR
> : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> : found bundled python: ...
> UI IN ENGLISH
>
> 2) With .bat:
> :>set LANG=ko_KR
> :>blender.exe
> : ndof: dead zone (...)
> : set LANG=ko_KR
> : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> : found bundled python: (...)
> UI IN KOREAN
>
> *) note, if the Blender path has any Asian character it crashes Blender
> (but
> this is a known bug afaik)
> Tested/confirmed in my system+builds and in Nathan L.
>
> --
> Dalai
>
> 2011/8/31 xiangquan xiao 
>
> > Thanks, I'll merge it now.
> >
> > 2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 
> >
> > > Garlic test builds on:
> > > http://www.graphicall.org/dfelinto
> > > (32 and 64 windows builds - make sure you get the right one)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dalai
> > >
> > > 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
> > >
> > > > Sure I can do the build.
> > > > But could  you merge the trunk into the branch to update the source
> to
> > > > >2.59?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > xiangquan xiao  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did the same change to bf_lang.c, too. But as you said, still
> > couldn't
> > > > work.
> > > >
> > > > Then according to
> > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv
> > > >  <http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>I
> wrote
> > a
> > > > bat:
> > > > set LANG=zh_CN
> > > > blender.exe
> > > >
> > > > It works! I have committed some related fix. You can have a try.
> > > > The _envset("LANG","zh_CN") call seems successful, but I still need
> to
> > > set
> > > > it before
> > > > running Blender. That's very strange. I also tested call system("set
> > > > LANG=zh_CN"), failed again.
> > > >
> > > > After all, we can make Garlic work on windows now. If you or
> jesterKing
> > > > have
> > > > some time, pls
> > > > make a windows build for me. I'd like to share it with BlenderCN
> > eagerly.
> > > I
> > > > have got errors on
> > > > "make PACKAGE" all the time. (:
> > > >
> > > > 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
> > > >
> > > > > I think we are in the right track here. After applying this patch
> [1]
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > change languages without the console error.
> > > > > The only problem now is that the interface does not change (even
> > though
> > > I
> > > > > set to translate buttons, tooltip and the other one -- in the
> > > outliner).
> > > > >
> > > > > Some languages (i.e. Arabic) are not in the Microsoft list. I'm
> > afraid
> > > > that
> > > > > for them we may need to change local in the computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] - http://www.pasteall.org/24448 (I did it only for English,
> > > > > Portuguese,
> > > > > Chinese, Japanese and Korean), following this:
> > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/39cwe7zf(v=VS.80).aspx
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dalai
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/8/30 xiangquan xiao 
> > > > >
> > > > > > One of the problem may be locale names. See
> > > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x99tb11d(v=vs.80).aspx
> > > > > > We set "en_US" for linux, while should set "english" for Windows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keep on debuging.
> > > > > >

[Bf-committers] Fixed garlic's setenv problem on windows

[xiangquan xiao]

Just use gettext_putenv() instead of BLI_setenv().
Now running blender.exe could change languages freely.


But it's strange I got errors below on linux when opening the User
Preference:

X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  155 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  11 (X_GLXSwapBuffers)
  Serial number of failed request:  5414
  Current serial number in output stream:  5415

Maybe it's just my system's fault I think.



About the instant-update of language, we have discussed on IRC. We thought
the existing notifier cannot change language instantly because the string
pointers should change. e.g.
The old _("good") points to "好", while the new _("good") points to "Bonne"

So we think it OK to force users to restart, as language switch will happen
rarely.



Then if we cannot get rid of setenv, then so be it.
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[xiangquan xiao]

Thanks, I'll look into it.

2011/9/6 Dalai Felinto 

> Hi,
>
> win32 bits version: http://www.graphicall.org/582
> win64 bits still fails for me (it builds and link, but does not translate
> the ui).
>
> Also I noticed that the whole ui is translated in oppose to 2.49 where we
> could set Tooltip/Toolbox/Buttons to be translated (the options are eve
> still there and exposed to the rna).
>
> I will remove the 64build. But be aware that 323 people downloaded it, so
> there is clear interest on it.
>
> Regards,
> Dalai
>
> 2011/9/5 xiangquan xiao 
>
> > Hi, I've fixed the problem of setting environment. Pls remove the
> previous
> > windows builds of garlic if possible, as most people actually don't know
> > how
> > to run it well.
> >
> > And if you still have the workspace, maybe you can build a new version
> for
> > me. Or just keep the users waiting for 2.60.
> >
> > Thanks! :)
> >
> > 2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Blender32 is working "fine", but Blender64 (scons at least) is not
> > working
> > > at all (it even crashes the system in some cases).
> > > By fine I mean, you need to set LANG before running Blender and that's
> > it.
> > > The option in the User Preferences panel is always ignored.
> > >
> > > The console from a Korean system:
> > > 1) Without .bat:
> > > :>blender.exe
> > > : ndof: dead zone ...
> > > : set LANG=ko_KR
> > > : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> > > : found bundled python: ...
> > > UI IN ENGLISH
> > >
> > > 2) With .bat:
> > > :>set LANG=ko_KR
> > > :>blender.exe
> > > : ndof: dead zone (...)
> > > : set LANG=ko_KR
> > > : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> > > : found bundled python: (...)
> > > UI IN KOREAN
> > >
> > > *) note, if the Blender path has any Asian character it crashes Blender
> > > (but
> > > this is a known bug afaik)
> > > Tested/confirmed in my system+builds and in Nathan L.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dalai
> > >
> > > 2011/8/31 xiangquan xiao 
> > >
> > > > Thanks, I'll merge it now.
> > > >
> > > > 2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 
> > > >
> > > > > Garlic test builds on:
> > > > > http://www.graphicall.org/dfelinto
> > > > > (32 and 64 windows builds - make sure you get the right one)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dalai
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sure I can do the build.
> > > > > > But could  you merge the trunk into the branch to update the
> source
> > > to
> > > > > > >2.59?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > xiangquan xiao  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did the same change to bf_lang.c, too. But as you said, still
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then according to
> > > > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv
> > > > > >  <http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>I
> > > wrote
> > > > a
> > > > > > bat:
> > > > > > set LANG=zh_CN
> > > > > > blender.exe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It works! I have committed some related fix. You can have a try.
> > > > > > The _envset("LANG","zh_CN") call seems successful, but I still
> need
> > > to
> > > > > set
> > > > > > it before
> > > > > > running Blender. That's very strange. I also tested call
> > system("set
> > > > > > LANG=zh_CN"), failed again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After all, we can make Garlic work on windows now. If you or
> > > jesterKing
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > some time, pls
> > > > > > make a windows build for me. I'd like to share it with BlenderCN
> > > > eagerly.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have got errors on
> > > > > > "make PACKAGE" all the

Re: [Bf-committers] [Soc-2011-dev] Final Report - Garlic Branch

[xiangquan xiao]

 To the partial translations, it's because most rna files still left
uncovered.

I updated the wiki of how to handle a rna source file:
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Xiaoxiangquan/GoogleSummerOfCode/2011/Internationalization/notes_for_developers#Special_Points_for_RNA

It's almost a pure physical work to cover all rna files, and it will
increase the string items' num sharply. You can find that the most useful
rnas have been covered, such as rna_scene.c and rna_object.c, while
rna_gpencil.c is partially covered.

2011/9/6 Dalai Felinto 

> Hi,
>
> win32 bits version: http://www.graphicall.org/582
> win64 bits still fails for me (it builds and link, but does not translate
> the ui).
>
> Also I noticed that the whole ui is translated in oppose to 2.49 where we
> could set Tooltip/Toolbox/Buttons to be translated (the options are eve
> still there and exposed to the rna).
>
> I will remove the 64build. But be aware that 323 people downloaded it, so
> there is clear interest on it.
>
> Regards,
> Dalai
>
> 2011/9/5 xiangquan xiao 
>
> > Hi, I've fixed the problem of setting environment. Pls remove the
> previous
> > windows builds of garlic if possible, as most people actually don't know
> > how
> > to run it well.
> >
> > And if you still have the workspace, maybe you can build a new version
> for
> > me. Or just keep the users waiting for 2.60.
> >
> > Thanks! :)
> >
> > 2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Blender32 is working "fine", but Blender64 (scons at least) is not
> > working
> > > at all (it even crashes the system in some cases).
> > > By fine I mean, you need to set LANG before running Blender and that's
> > it.
> > > The option in the User Preferences panel is always ignored.
> > >
> > > The console from a Korean system:
> > > 1) Without .bat:
> > > :>blender.exe
> > > : ndof: dead zone ...
> > > : set LANG=ko_KR
> > > : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> > > : found bundled python: ...
> > > UI IN ENGLISH
> > >
> > > 2) With .bat:
> > > :>set LANG=ko_KR
> > > :>blender.exe
> > > : ndof: dead zone (...)
> > > : set LANG=ko_KR
> > > : Change locale to Korean_Korea.949
> > > : found bundled python: (...)
> > > UI IN KOREAN
> > >
> > > *) note, if the Blender path has any Asian character it crashes Blender
> > > (but
> > > this is a known bug afaik)
> > > Tested/confirmed in my system+builds and in Nathan L.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dalai
> > >
> > > 2011/8/31 xiangquan xiao 
> > >
> > > > Thanks, I'll merge it now.
> > > >
> > > > 2011/9/1 Dalai Felinto 
> > > >
> > > > > Garlic test builds on:
> > > > > http://www.graphicall.org/dfelinto
> > > > > (32 and 64 windows builds - make sure you get the right one)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dalai
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/8/31 Dalai Felinto 
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sure I can do the build.
> > > > > > But could  you merge the trunk into the branch to update the
> source
> > > to
> > > > > > >2.59?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > xiangquan xiao  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did the same change to bf_lang.c, too. But as you said, still
> > > > couldn't
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then according to
> > > > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv
> > > > > >  <http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#windows_setenv>I
> > > wrote
> > > > a
> > > > > > bat:
> > > > > > set LANG=zh_CN
> > > > > > blender.exe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It works! I have committed some related fix. You can have a try.
> > > > > > The _envset("LANG","zh_CN") call seems successful, but I still
> need
> > > to
> > > > > set
> > > > > > it before
> > > > > > running Blender. That's very strange. I also tested call
> > system("set
> > > > > &

Re: [Bf-committers] i18n branch (garlic) review

[xiangquan xiao]

2011/9/8 Sergey I. Sharybin 

> Hi,
>
> Made some code checks and collected all found questions/issues:
>
> - .Blanguages file is no longer used?
>
Yes. And nowhere I have found it used when I started working on garlic.

- Unnecessary checks in BLF_gettext. msgid shouldn't be NULL here and
> msgid[0] != '\0' is faster than strlen(msgid)
>
These checks didn't exist before, but once I got segment fault there because
of NULL pointer. Then the checks was added, and errors gone.


> - In BLF_lang_set(). I think setting locale to smth.UTF-8 should be
> called first. I.e. in my case locale ru_RU doesn't use UTF-8 codepage --
> it uses ISO-8859-5. So i've got errors about invalid utf8 sequences in
> py scripts when setting locale to ru_RU.
>
It's right. I took a look at the "Battle of Wesnoth", which tries set locale
along with XXX, XXX.UTF-8, XXX.utf-8. So I wrote my code like this.


> - blenfont is added as dependency to all editors..
>
Yes.


> - Not sure about UI_GetStyle function. Looks liek something unfinished.
>
I noticed that U.uistyles is a list of uistyles, but nowhere seems to choose
one based on users' setting. Only in
source/blender/editors/interface/interface.c
there is a line saying:
uiStyle style= *((uiStyle *)U.uistyles.first);// XXX pass on as arg
We just always use the first style.

In an early version I load unifont as a uistyle after the default one, and
use UI_GetStyle("Unifont") to get it if an utf8 language is in use. If only
Latin characters are used, unifont.ttf will not be loaded. This seems memory
saving.

Later I remove this feature, because the language-selection dialog always
needs utf8 fonts. The I just load unifont.ttf as the default uistyle, and
UI_GetStyle() only return the first uistyle as before.

Anyway, in my opinion, UI_GetStyle() is somewhere to get uistyle as users'
wish, especially after font-selection feature added. If so, another field
should also be added to the global UserDef.


> - Numbers+plurals
>
?


> - RNA_enum_items_gettexted. Can't it be handles on more lower level?
> - RNA_types_init_gettext. Dislike list of structures, maybe we already
> got list of structs somewhere?
>
In rna_XXX_gen.c, the properties are actually linked as lists. So I just
played a trick, maybe ugly.


> - WM_read_homefile(). Is it still have to be splitted?
>
Yes, we still need to do these:
1. read user def
2. init language setting
3. init some UI components
So 1 and 3 are splitted and 2 inserted.


> - Language is changing globally. So there's no way to translate only
> tooltips (like it was in 2.49)
>
Add another mark, like T_("tooltip")? Switch off other marks( _ and N_ ),
then only tooltips translated.


>
> Regarding to that _ and N_ macroses. I think it's easy to write operator
> which will ise kinda DFS and collect all strings used by operators and
> RNA. In this case BLF dependency would be avoided for editors and py
> scripts wouldn't be touched. And it can be helpful for case of instant
> language switch (i.e. Dalai told it can be helpful). But it'll need
> gettext stuff called on draw. Not sure how slow it'll be.
>
I think this is a good idea! Not to disturb too many code and coders is a
wise choice.


>
> Didn't think much about ways of solving this issues yet, will let you
> know when got new thoughts on this.
>
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Re: [Bf-committers] i18n branch (garlic) review

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2011/9/9 Sergey I. Sharybin 

> Hi,
>
> xiangquan xiao wrote:
> > 2011/9/8 Sergey I. Sharybin
> >
> > - Unnecessary checks in BLF_gettext. msgid shouldn't be NULL here and
> >> msgid[0] != '\0' is faster than strlen(msgid)
> >>
> > These checks didn't exist before, but once I got segment fault there
> because of NULL pointer. Then the checks was added, and errors gone.
> I'd prefer to discover case when it's NULL. Looks more like exception
> which should be handled in callee function. IMO. Will check this.
> >> - In BLF_lang_set(). I think setting locale to smth.UTF-8 should be
> called first. I.e. in my case locale ru_RU doesn't use UTF-8 codepage -- it
> uses ISO-8859-5. So i've got errors about invalid utf8 sequences in py
> scripts when setting locale to ru_RU.
> > It's right. I took a look at the "Battle of Wesnoth", which tries set
> locale along with XXX, XXX.UTF-8, XXX.utf-8. So I wrote my code like this.
> Hrm. Maybe it'll also fail here. Will check :) And probably it's just
> python codec issue -- maybe strings should be encoded from ISO-8859-5 to
> UTF-8 before passing them to python =\
>
> Will check.
> >> - Not sure about UI_GetStyle function. Looks liek something unfinished.
> > I noticed that U.uistyles is a list of uistyles, but nowhere seems to
> choose one based on users' setting. Only in
> >  source/blender/editors/interface/interface.c
> > there is a line saying:
> >  uiStyle style= *((uiStyle *)U.uistyles.first);// XXX pass on as
> arg
> > We just always use the first style.
> >
> > In an early version I load unifont as a uistyle after the default one,
> and use UI_GetStyle("Unifont") to get it if an utf8 language is in use. If
> only Latin characters are used, unifont.ttf will not be loaded. This seems
> memory saving.
> >
> > Later I remove this feature, because the language-selection dialog always
> needs utf8 fonts. The I just load unifont.ttf as the default uistyle, and
> UI_GetStyle() only return the first uistyle as before.
> >
> > Anyway, in my opinion, UI_GetStyle() is somewhere to get uistyle as
> users' wish, especially after font-selection feature added. If so, another
> field should also be added to the global UserDef.
> Just tried to make changes more local. Probably it's ok to have this
> function.
> >> - Numbers+plurals
> > ?
> For example: "removed %d vertices". It'll be tricky to translate it to
> russian because of case. There was gettext stuff to deal with this
> situation.. Not really issue, just not perfect :) I was collecting all
> possible issues. I'll let you know when i remember this stuff..
> >> - RNA_enum_items_gettexted. Can't it be handles on more lower level?
> >> - RNA_types_init_gettext. Dislike list of structures, maybe we already
> got list of structs somewhere?
> > In rna_XXX_gen.c, the properties are actually linked as lists. So I just
> played a trick, maybe ugly.
> >
> >> - WM_read_homefile(). Is it still have to be splitted?
> > Yes, we still need to do these:
> > 1. read user def
> > 2. init language setting
> > 3. init some UI components
> > So 1 and 3 are splitted and 2 inserted.
> Can't remember source now.. So issue that some UI stuff was made in
> WM_read_homefile ?
>
Yes, such as WM_read_homefile -> ED_editors_init()


> >> - Language is changing globally. So there's no way to translate only
> tooltips (like it was in 2.49)
> > Add another mark, like T_("tooltip")? Switch off other marks( _ and N_ ),
> then only tooltips translated.
> This can work, yes.
>
> Was doing bug-tracker today, not much time for i18n. Will continue
> tomorrow.
>
> --
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[Bf-committers] How & When could we support right-to-left languages?

[xiangquan xiao]

After congcong made an advertisement about garlic in the blender-nations,
more and more volunteers come to contribute to the translation program.
However, Hebrew and Persian(Farsi) as well as Arabic are written from right
to left. We have disscussed this issue not long ago, but it seems a little more
urgent than I ever thought.

Is there somebody working for this? Or at least any plan?
I'd like to help on this, but I'm totally unfamiliar with these languages,
as well as the text rendering process :(

Regards!
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Re: [Bf-committers] i18 project pre-merge review

[xiangquan xiao]

2011/9/19 Sergey I. Sharybin 

> Hi,
>
> Looks like all issues Dalai and Thomas pointer recently are solved.
> There are some things i want to happen before merge:
>
> - New font have to be confirmed as not worse in charsets coverage. I
> need native speakers to check because i can't actually say if all chars
> are fine now (especially in chinese language). Xiao, can you help with
> this?

Sure, I'll check it today and reply.


> - I want Campbelland/or Brecht review garlic branch before merge. I hope
> there's no issues but extra review wouldn't hurt.
>
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Re: [Bf-committers] i18 project pre-merge review

[xiangquan xiao]

I'll CC this to blender-translation list.

We have translation branches at
http://code.google.com/p/blender-translation/

I think we can set a limitation, e.g, one branch can be merged only if it
has completed at least 80% translations.

And the not-ready branches will not be a candidate in the release.
2011/9/19 Davis Sorenson 

> Hi,
>
> As a translator for sv_SE (Swedish as spoken in Sweden), I would just like
> to confirm that my understanding of the effects of the merge are correct:
> Only the translations that are declared by the translators to be finished
> will be included in the merge to trunk, and the translators will have to
> request that their translation be included in trunk later.
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Additionally, once the translations are finished for whichever release and
> in trunk, will there be some way for the translators to commit updates to
> the translation in trunk? Is there any plan for how this will be managed?
>
> Regards, Davis
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Sergey I. Sharybin  >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Looks like all issues Dalai and Thomas pointer recently are solved.
> > There are some things i want to happen before merge:
> >
> > - New font have to be confirmed as not worse in charsets coverage. I
> > need native speakers to check because i can't actually say if all chars
> > are fine now (especially in chinese language). Xiao, can you help with
> > this?
> > - I want Campbelland/or Brecht review garlic branch before merge. I hope
> > there's no issues but extra review wouldn't hurt.
> >
> > --
> > With best regards, Sergey I. Sharybin
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[Bf-committers] Fwd: "howto translate garlic ..." ( request for instructions )

[xiangquan xiao]

I'll just cc to blender-translation list.

See http://code.google.com/p/blender-translation, there are some docs there.
And the working german translators will welcome you :)

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jass 
Date: 2011/9/19
Subject: [Bf-committers] "howto translate garlic ..." ( request for
instructions )
To: bf-blender developers 


Hi.

I would like to spend some time on the german translation of Blender.
But the wiki page is a bit of a problem for me ;-( Maybe a very brief
step by step instruction could help more ? Here is what i do so far
hoping i am doing right (maybe someone can confirm that i work as i
should ...):

Prerequisites:

- I downloaded Blender from
  http://www.graphicall.org/582
- I downloaded the language branch from
  https://blender-translation.googlecode.com/svn/branches/
- I installed the windows version of poedit from
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/poedit/

Make the editing easier:

- I copied blender-translation\DE\de.po  to
  garlic32\2.59\datafiles\locale\de\LC_MESSAGES\blender.po

Now poedit compiles the .mo right in place for Blender
Note: I have to frequently restart Blender. Changing the .mo while
blender is running seems to have evil consequences...



And now sme questions:

1.) When i am in doubt how to make a pyrticular translation, who can i ask ?
2.) When i have finished a part, what is the best way to give it back ?
2b.) Where do i get access permisisons to the repository ?
3.) When others also do changes on the same PO file, i probably have
to update frequently  (svn update ... ) ?
4.) I do not exactly understand the comments about merging from other
branches...
When exactly do i have to do that ?
5.) When i see an already translated line of text which seems wrong to
me, how shall i proceed ?
6.) Do i have to create a comment for every change i do ?

thanks for any answer on this
-gaia-

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Re: [Bf-committers] i18 project pre-merge review

[xiangquan xiao]

I just cannot startup the program on win32. It crashed without any
infomation.

Someone has reported this in blender-translation actually. It seems fine for
me at that time, but now I got into the same situation.
Maybe we both lack something in our system?

2011/9/19 Sergey I. Sharybin 

> Hi,
>
> Looks like all issues Dalai and Thomas pointer recently are solved.
> There are some things i want to happen before merge:
>
> - New font have to be confirmed as not worse in charsets coverage. I
> need native speakers to check because i can't actually say if all chars
> are fine now (especially in chinese language). Xiao, can you help with
> this?
> - I want Campbelland/or Brecht review garlic branch before merge. I hope
> there's no issues but extra review wouldn't hurt.
>
> --
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Re: [Bf-committers] i18 project pre-merge review

[xiangquan xiao]

Yeah, have updated libs before building.
I'll try Dalai's suggestion.

2011/9/20 Sergey I. Sharybin 

> Hi,
>
> Also, always make sure you're using latest libs. I've updated them for
> windows some time ago.
>
> Dalai Felinto wrote:
> > Hi Xiao,
> >
> > The only difference with my old win32 and now is that I'm now building
> with
> > Collada.
> > In fact to build Blender32 with Collada I had to install:
> > - "msvc9 feature pack 1 vs 2008" (my computer didn't have TR1 Support.
> >
> > Nathan Letwory would know better (he is the one who suggested me to
> install
> > this pack). But I suspect this is the problem.
> >
> > I was going to build a win32 garlic with no collada, but it seems that
> the
> > Chinese .mo was updated from an outdated .po or so:
> > http://pasteall.org/25011
> >
> > Another option is to delete your startup.blend file. Sometimes the
> problem
> > is there. Is the 64build working for you? Here both work.
> > --
> > Dalai
> >
> > 2011/9/19 xiangquan xiao
> >
> >> I just cannot startup the program on win32. It crashed without any
> >> infomation.
> >>
> >> Someone has reported this in blender-translation actually. It seems fine
> >> for
> >> me at that time, but now I got into the same situation.
> >> Maybe we both lack something in our system?
> >>
> >> 2011/9/19 Sergey I. Sharybin
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Looks like all issues Dalai and Thomas pointer recently are solved.
> >>> There are some things i want to happen before merge:
> >>>
> >>> - New font have to be confirmed as not worse in charsets coverage. I
> >>> need native speakers to check because i can't actually say if all chars
> >>> are fine now (especially in chinese language). Xiao, can you help with
> >>> this?
> >>> - I want Campbelland/or Brecht review garlic branch before merge. I
> hope
> >>> there's no issues but extra review wouldn't hurt.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> With best regards, Sergey I. Sharybin
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[Bf-committers] About moving the blender-translation to blender.org?

[xiangquan xiao]

At the beginning I just wanted to manage Chinese PO at [1],
but later more and more guys came and started to work on their languages.
The repository is at [2], the tree is like
---/trunk: Just a copy of blender trunk's /po directory.
---/branches: Every running translation thread. They update themselves
according to the /trunk/blender.pot, and merge into trunk when most
translations done.

Now we think it's time for moving the program to the official location and
under official management. Right, Ton? I noticed that it has been in the
weekly meeting notes.

It must be an easy work.  is a root member, he can
help on everything, I think.( I myself is on a two weeks' vacation,
traveling around the country ^_^ )

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[2] https://blender-translation.googlecode.com/svn
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Re: [Bf-committers] Arabic translation support in the UI script

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Foward to blen-translation :)

2011/10/6 Dalai Felinto 

> I talked with Sergey and this is the current workflow. We can add it to
> //po/README.txt if other translators will run into that. But the basic
> information is there already:
>
> (1) run update_msg.py (it needs compiled Blender)
> (2) run update_pot.py - gather the latest strings from Blender
> (3) run update_po.py - sync in the new changes from trunk
> (4) run clean_po.py - remove the no longer needed msgstr/msgid
> (5) run merge_po.py to bring the new .po file into trunk's .po
>
> If you actually want to discard the old translations from trunk's ar.po
> it's
> better to cook your own .py for that (trivial to adapt the arabic_to_utf.py
> for that as you know). Given that this is the exception and not the rule I
> don't think we need this officially in trunk. This would happen between (4)
> and (5).
>
> * Note: you likely want to run clean_po.py in your new .po to avoid
> translate strings that are not needed.
>
> (can someone please share this in the translators mailing-list?)
>
> --
> Dalai
>
>
> 2011/10/5 Dalai Felinto 
>
> > Hi Yousef ,
> >
> > Blender is no longer storing the .pot file in trunk. The reason is that
> > this file changes a lot, and is really easy to rebuild running the
> scripts
> > in the .po folder.
> >
> > Would it help if I send you the latest blender.pot and the ar.po
> resulting
> > from that? You would still need to run a .po merge.
> > Maybe we could take the resulting trunk ar.po, clean all the msgstr and
> > then use the merge_po.py scrip.
> > The script was written by Sergey, CC here.
> > @Sergey, is that right? any other suggestions here?
> >
> >
> > By the way, here [1] you can find my new take in the arabic_to_utf
> script.
> > There are a few changes making it to look more python-like (I got some of
> > your changes there). The result will still differ from your take on it.
> The
> > reason(s) is: (1) I believe I need to check for both side-connections,
> not
> > only the start. (2) since your 1st script it seems you didn't check
> whether
> > the char itself can connect to the left/right (always checking only the
> next
> > chars). (3) if you don't increase (g) inside the loop for
> > the laaam/l/laaahz/ you will end up processing the following char
> > twice.
> >
> > * I'm not so sure about the (3), but the (1) and (2) reflects the little
> I
> > understand of the arabic language (reading your code + wikipedia + help
> from
> > a friend)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dalai
> >
> > 1- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3292898/arabic/arabic_to_utf.py
> >
> > 2011/10/4 Yousef Hurfoush 
> >>
> >> hi
> >>
> >> @ Dalai
> >>
> >> i finished translating the 1st milestone in ar.po (~1000 phrase), and
> i'd
> >> like to update it in the trunk:
> >> the problem is that it is based on pot file which was before the new
> >> generated ar.po
> >>
> >> another issue is that this we are re-translating the file from zero,
> >> and the one in the trunk is about 5000 fuzzy translated misplaced words
> >> so i need an empty .pot template and i can't generate it the old way!
> >>
> >> can you provide me with an empty ar.po file i could work on?
> >> and can i merge my translated file into it without errors
> >>
> >> here is the new translation:
> >> https://sourceforge.net/p/batp/code/44/tree/done/ar.po
> >>
> >>
> >> and a screen shot in blender:
> >> https://sourceforge.net/p/batp/screenshot/1st~1000.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks in advance
> >>
> >> Yousef Harfoush
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Bf-committers] 2.60 release log: looking for the docs!

[xiangquan xiao]

Is garlic wanted?
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Xiaoxiangquan/GoogleSummerOfCode/2011/Internationalization
Havn't updated since new semester began
2011/10/6 Brecht Van Lommel 

> Hi,
>
> I've started the wiki page with the log of all fixes and changes:
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/changelog_260
>
> Volunteers to help to making this page complete welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Brecht.
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Ton Roosendaal  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > To make random searches easier, can people who contributed branches or
> > larger patches mail as reply the urls of last & updated logs?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Ton-
> >
> > 
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Re: [Bf-committers] Arabic translation support in the UI script

[xiangquan xiao]

Hi,

2011/10/8 Yousef Hurfoush 

>
> hi
>
>
> @dalai & xiao
>
>
>
> This is the new merged ar.po, note that this only has the new translation
> and is not merged with the old one:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/batp/code/45/tree/done/ar_merged.po
>
>
>
> Another note that the translated .po reports that it has an 863 after
> merge, while i translated an 987 strings!
>
> i think some of them was deprecated as it is no longer used in the new
> .pot, or is this another issue?
>
Yes,you are right. strings are some kind of "dynamic" because source code
always changes. So we try to make the pot up to date.


>
> i did the merge using the merge_po.py script from the svn po directory
>
> in case you can do a  better merge her is the translated strings:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/batp/code/45/tree/done/1st_1000.po
>
>
> Another question is that the new generated ar.po doesn't has some labels
> represented in the current one
> is there some kind of script to add them or they don't matter? i need to
> know as i'm splitting the file into
>
Ehh, I think the msgmerge command will always format the PO when executed,
such as sorting and remove "useless" labels ( in its eyes ).
I don't know if there is a way to forbid this :(


> smaller files based on line numbers, like 1st 1000 lines, 2nd 1000 line
> etc..
>
>
>
>
>
> Yousef Harfoush
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Re: [Bf-committers] [Bf-blender-cvs] SVN commit: /data/svn/bf-blender [40931] trunk/blender/po: update PO after cleaning POTFILE.in

[xiangquan xiao]

It's the update_msg.py who scans all rna_XXX.c and collects them.
Actually there is no need to fill language_items[ ]'s last field (the
description field). I added them only to tell developers what locale will be
set.

2011/10/11 Dalai Felinto 

> Hi Xiangquan,
>
> Something seems wrong with the N_ marking system.
>
> e.g. in the UserPreferenceSystem the ar_EG, bg_BG, ... shouldn't really be
> translated.
> They are not N_ marked in the file yet they show in the pot file (even
> after
> running the clean_po.py they are there).
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Dalai
>
> 2011/10/10 xiao xiangquan 
>
> > Revision: 40931
> >
> >
> http://projects.blender.org/scm/viewvc.php?view=rev&root=bf-blender&revision=40931
> > Author:   xiaoxiangquan
> > Date: 2011-10-11 06:26:17 + (Tue, 11 Oct 2011)
> > Log Message:
> > ---
> > update PO after cleaning POTFILE.in
> >
> > Modified Paths:
> > --
> >trunk/blender/po/ar.po
> >trunk/blender/po/bg.po
> >trunk/blender/po/ca.po
> >trunk/blender/po/cs.po
> >trunk/blender/po/de.po
> >trunk/blender/po/el.po
> >trunk/blender/po/es.po
> >trunk/blender/po/fa.po
> >trunk/blender/po/fi.po
> >trunk/blender/po/fr.po
> >trunk/blender/po/hr.po
> >trunk/blender/po/it.po
> >trunk/blender/po/ja.po
> >trunk/blender/po/ko.po
> >trunk/blender/po/ne.po
> >trunk/blender/po/nl.po
> >trunk/blender/po/pl.po
> >trunk/blender/po/pt_BR.po
> >trunk/blender/po/ro.po
> >trunk/blender/po/ru.po
> >trunk/blender/po/sr.po
> >trunk/blender/po/s...@latn.po
> >trunk/blender/po/sv.po
> >trunk/blender/po/uk.po
> >trunk/blender/po/zh_CN.po
> >trunk/blender/po/zh_TW.po
> >
> > Modified: trunk/blender/po/ar.po
> > ===
> > --- trunk/blender/po/ar.po  2011-10-11 06:24:11 UTC (rev 40930)
> > +++ trunk/blender/po/ar.po  2011-10-11 06:26:17 UTC (rev 40931)
> > @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
> >  msgstr ""
> >  "Project-Id-Version: Blender\n"
> >  "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n"
> > -"POT-Creation-Date: 2011-10-11 13:25+0800\n"
> > +"POT-Creation-Date: 2011-10-11 14:24+0800\n"
> >  "PO-Revision-Date: 2011-09-30 14:41-\n"
> >  "Last-Translator: Yousef Harfoush, Amine Moussaoui\n"
> >  "Language-Team: batProject \n"
> > @@ -728,22 +728,26 @@
> >  msgid "Romanian (Român)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2535
> > -msgid "Arabic (العربية)"
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2536
> > +msgid "Arabic (ﺔﻴﺑﺮﻌﻟﺍ)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2536
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2537
> >  msgid "Bulgarian (Български)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2537
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2538
> >  msgid "Greek (Ελληνικά)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2538
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2539
> >  msgid "Korean (한국 언어)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2542
> > +msgid "Persian (ﺱﺭﺎﻓ)"
> > +msgstr ""
> > +
> >  #: source/blender/windowmanager/intern/wm_files.c:440
> >  #, c-format
> >  msgid "Can't read file: \"%s\", %s."
> > @@ -20684,6 +20688,10 @@
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> >  #: bpy.types.UserPreferencesSystem.language, 'ARABIC'
> > +msgid "Arabic (العربية)"
> > +msgstr ""
> > +
> > +#: bpy.types.UserPreferencesSystem.language, 'ARABIC'
> >  msgid "ar_EG"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> >
> > Modified: trunk/blender/po/bg.po
> > ===
> > --- trunk/blender/po/bg.po  2011-10-11 06:24:11 UTC (rev 40930)
> > +++ trunk/blender/po/bg.po  2011-10-11 06:26:17 UTC (rev 40931)
> > @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
> >  msgstr ""
> >  "Project-Id-Version: bg2217\n"
> >  "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n"
> > -"POT-Creation-Date: 2011-10-11 13:25+0800\n"
> > +"POT-Creation-Date: 2011-10-11 14:24+0800\n"
> >  "PO-Revision-Date: 2006-11-27 23:34+0200\n"
> >  "Last-Translator: Victor Dachev \n"
> >  "Language-Team: Bulgarian \n"
> > @@ -809,22 +809,26 @@
> >  msgid "Romanian (Român)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2535
> > -msgid "Arabic (العربية)"
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2536
> > +msgid "Arabic (ﺔﻴﺑﺮﻌﻟﺍ)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2536
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2537
> >  msgid "Bulgarian (Български)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2537
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2538
> >  msgid "Greek (Ελληνικά)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > -#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2538
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2539
> >  msgid "Korean (한국 언어)"
> >  msgstr ""
> >
> > +#: source/blender/makesrna/intern/rna_userdef.c:2542
> > +msgid "Persian (ﺱﺭﺎﻓ)"

Re: [Bf-committers] [Bf-blender-cvs] SVN commit: /data/svn/bf-blender [40931] trunk/blender/po: update PO after cleaning POTFILE.in

[xiangquan xiao]

You are right! POTFILE.in still needs to be deeply cleaned.

2011/10/11 Campbell Barton 

> Noticed python scripts in POTFILE.in, shouldn't these all be removed
> since _("") is no longer used?
>
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Re: [Bf-committers] gsoc 2012

[xiangquan xiao]

I'm going to apply for a BGE project this year, as I have made my mind to
be a game developer :)
The "install on portable device" looks interesting. I knew the Game
Editor[1] is "Write once, run anywhere".
I wondered what's the potential device? ipad/iphone/Android?

[1] http://game-editor.com/Main_Page

2012/3/3 Nicholas Bishop 

> The code is a little out of date and hasn't been updated to work on
> BMesh, but it's a very minor change. Ptex tessellates N-gons just like
> Catmull-Clark does (i.e. by creating N quads.)
>
> -Nicholas
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Alexandr Kuznetsov 
> wrote:
> > Nicholas Bishop, is it compatible with bmesh? I'm not sure if code change
> > affected Ptex. Just curious.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Nicholas Bishop <
> nicholasbis...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> The Ptex painting code works fairly well, but it's not integrated into
> >> either of Blender's renderers, so it's not very useful right now.
> >>
> >> -Nicholas
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Tobias Kummer 
> wrote:
> >> > On that note, what is the state of the ptex integration Nicholas
> Bishop
> >> > started? That would be a big one for me!
> >> >
> >> > Greets,
> >> >
> >> > Tobi
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri Mar  2 20:37:14 2012, Tom M wrote:
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm currently working on our GSoC mentoring organization application.
> >> >>
> >> >> Part of that process is providing an ideas list.
> >> >>
> >> >> To form the ideas list I've invited our user community to post their
> >> >> wishes to this thread
> >> >>
> >> >> http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?247490-GSoC-Wishlist
> >> >>
> >> >> I've summarized the results thus far here
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/GoogleSummerOfCode/2012/Wishlist
> >> >>
> >> >> and have marked things that were a priority for a lot of people with
> >> *
> >> >>
> >> >> Mentors (any core coder/previous years mentors/most folks who have
> >> >> commit rights qualify) - if you would be willing to scan through the
> >> >> list it would be good to make note of
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) stuff that should likely be done only by a core developer - ie add
> >> >> - Core Only
> >> >> 2) stuff on your todo list that you would like others not to touch -
> >> >> ie add - Brecht todo
> >> >> 3) stuff that you would be willing to mentor if it is selected and
> >> >> would be willing to answer questions from potential gsoc applicants
> on
> >> >> - ie add - Campbell mentor (note that it is preferable to have
> >> >> multiple potential mentors for each, so even if someone else has
> their
> >> >> name by it, please add yours too if you are interested :) )
> >> >>
> >> >> i realise that many things on the list are too small to be a complete
> >> >> gsoc project but we can often aggregate a bunch of small todos into a
> >> >> larger gsoc project
> >> >>
> >> >> Also core developers please feel free to add your own ideas that you
> >> >> would enjoy mentoring or projects that you would like a student to
> >> >> help you on.
> >> >>
> >> >> Those items that have a potential mentor by them I will move to the
> >> >> official ideas list.
> >> >>
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