Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Adam R. Maxwell]

On Jun 28, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Kelle Cruz wrote:

> Your auto completion code is really useful!  ( i tried to add the  
> install instructions to the wiki but was unable to create a new  
> account...not sure whats going on there...)

I can set you up with an account; send me your preferred username off- 
list.

> I was wondering... is there an easy way to modify the code to narrow  
> the search to just cite keys instead of title, keywords, author, and  
> cite key.

You could do this fairly easily by recompiling BibDesk from source; I  
can help if you want to do that.  It presently uses the same mechanism  
that BibDesk's input manager used, for consistency and because cite  
keys aren't necessarily memorable.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Kelle Cruz]

Adam,

Your auto completion code is really useful!  ( i tried to add the install
instructions to the wiki but was unable to create a new account...not sure
whats going on there...)

I was wondering... is there an easy way to modify the code to narrow the
search to just cite keys instead of title, keywords, author, and cite key.

many thanks!
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Adam R. Maxwell]

On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Christopher Eliot wrote:

>> As a consequence, I put together a .tmCommand that asks BibDesk to  
>> complete your cite keys, and it's linked from the wiki
>>
>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Other_Applications
>
> Would someone generous -- it doesn't have to be Adam -- be willing  
> to write up slightly more hand-holding instructions for installing  
> his BibDeskTMCompletions? I could even then post them to the wiki,  
> perhaps.
>
> a. I extracted the .zip file into /Users/[myname]/Library/ 
> Application Support/TextMate/Completions/
> b. I double-clicked on the BibDeskTMCompletions Unix executable  
> file. I authorized it to run.
> c. A command showed up in my TextMate bundle list called untitled,  
> with the readme.txt as its contents, and I renamed it  
> BibDeskTMCompletions
> d. As a test, I typed  \cite{t option-escape  in one of my documents  
> and a series of error messages were inserted. Not sure what to try  
> next.

1) download http://homepage.mac.com/amaxwell/.Public/Completion.zip

2) unzip to a temporary location

3) double-click each of the .tmCommand files

4) copy the UNIX binary BibDeskTMCompletions to a convenient location,  
such as ~/bin

5) edit the commands in TextMate to point to the location in 4), which  
is the point of this comment from the README file:

After installing the .tmCommands, you'll need to modify them in the  
bundle editor to set an appropriate path to the BibDeskTMCompletions  
program.  For example, if you install it in /Users/me/bin, change  
"$HOME/BuildProducts/Release" to $HOME/bin as follows:

CMD = '"$HOME"/BuildProducts/Release/BibDeskTMCompletions 
CMD = '"$HOME"/bin/BibDeskTMCompletions 

Let me know if you need more info.  Adding this to the wiki (or the  
README) would be a good idea also; if you can turn this into some user- 
friendly instructions, that would be great!

regards,
Adam

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Christopher Eliot]

As a consequence, I put together a .tmCommand that asks BibDesk to  
complete your cite keys, and it's linked from the wiki


http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Other_Applications


Would someone generous -- it doesn't have to be Adam -- be willing to  
write up slightly more hand-holding instructions for installing his  
BibDeskTMCompletions? I could even then post them to the wiki, perhaps.


a. I extracted the .zip file into /Users/[myname]/Library/Application  
Support/TextMate/Completions/
b. I double-clicked on the BibDeskTMCompletions Unix executable file.  
I authorized it to run.
c. A command showed up in my TextMate bundle list called untitled,  
with the readme.txt as its contents, and I renamed it  
BibDeskTMCompletions
d. As a test, I typed  \cite{t option-escape  in one of my documents  
and a series of error messages were inserted. Not sure what to try next.


There must be a couple simple steps I'm missing. Thanks very much. Chris-
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Adam R. Maxwell]

On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:32 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

>
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:51 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:36 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>>>
 On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0200
 Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
 Hello,

 Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some
 initial
 characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make  
 the
 right
 selection for publication.

 How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?
>>>
>>> You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and
>>> then
>>> push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method
>>> is
>>> pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite-
>>> keys
>>> and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but
>>> the
>>> menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of
>>> the
>>> cite-key typed.
>>
>> correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for
>> choosing
>> your cite-key
>>
>> Niels
>
> Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not
> supported anymore.

 Well, I'm on 10.5.2 and it works fine
>>>
>>> Then you must have manually installed the input manager. Unless
>>> TextMate now includes this natively?
>>
>> Which Input Manager? I installed "Edit in TextMate" manually but
>> nothing else - it seems that the esc+opt-command only uses  
>> applescript
>> and a little bit perl to do it's stuff (don't know right now where  
>> the
>> esc-autocompletion-stuff is located)
>>
>> Niels
>
> So then, if it works, it's included in TextMate. That's what I mean.
> This didn't used to work out of the box without the BibDesk
> inputmanager, which only works on Tiger (unless you force it to).

TextMate doesn't use NSTextView, so the input manager never worked  
with it.  This actually kept me from using TextMate for LaTeX for a  
long time.  TextMate comes with an interface for inserting keys via  
BibDesk, but it's ugly (IMNSHO), and I don't think it's recommended  
anymore.

Currently, TextMate parses your BibTeX file using regular expressions  
and builds a list of completion on its own; this works pretty well,  
but has some limitations due to the BibTeX grammar (e.g. it can hang  
on parsing valid BibTeX).

I prefer using BibDesk's search heuristics for completion, and BibDesk  
also has a much better parser.  As a consequence, I put together  
a .tmCommand that asks BibDesk to complete your cite keys, and it's  
linked from the wiki

http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Other_Applications

Use whichever suits your needs.  Mine does require BibDesk to be  
running, which bothers some people for reasons that aren't clear to me.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:51 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:36 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0200
>>> Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>

 On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some
>>> initial
>>> characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the
>>> right
>>> selection for publication.
>>>
>>> How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?
>>
>> You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and
>> then
>> push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method  
>> is
>> pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite-
>> keys
>> and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but  
>> the
>> menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of  
>> the
>> cite-key typed.
>
> correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for
> choosing
> your cite-key
>
> Niels

 Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not
 supported anymore.
>>>
>>> Well, I'm on 10.5.2 and it works fine
>>
>> Then you must have manually installed the input manager. Unless
>> TextMate now includes this natively?
>
> Which Input Manager? I installed "Edit in TextMate" manually but
> nothing else - it seems that the esc+opt-command only uses applescript
> and a little bit perl to do it's stuff (don't know right now where the
> esc-autocompletion-stuff is located)
>
> Niels

So then, if it works, it's included in TextMate. That's what I mean.  
This didn't used to work out of the box without the BibDesk  
inputmanager, which only works on Tiger (unless you force it to).

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Christian]

Am 20.04.2008 um 11:36 schrieb Niels Kobschaetzki:
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0200
> Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some  
> initial
> characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the
> right
> selection for publication.
>
> How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?

 You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and  
 then
 push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
 pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite- 
 keys
 and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
 menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
 cite-key typed.
>>>
>>> correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for  
>>> choosing
>>> your cite-key
>>>
>>> Niels
>>
>> Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not
>> supported anymore.
>
> Well, I'm on 10.5.2 and it works fine
>
> Niels

Thanks, that works fine.

If I type some initial characters and press Alt+Esc it narrows down  
the list of publications and I can choose the one I need.

Thanks
Christian

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Niels Kobschaetzki]

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:36 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>
>  > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0200
>  > Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >>
>  >> On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
>  >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some
>  > initial
>  > characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the
>  > right
>  > selection for publication.
>  >
>  > How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?
>  
>   You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and
>   then
>   push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
>   pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite-
>   keys
>   and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
>   menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
>   cite-key typed.
>  >>>
>  >>> correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for
>  >>> choosing
>  >>> your cite-key
>  >>>
>  >>> Niels
>  >>
>  >> Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not
>  >> supported anymore.
>  >
>  > Well, I'm on 10.5.2 and it works fine
>
>  Then you must have manually installed the input manager. Unless
>  TextMate now includes this natively?

Which Input Manager? I installed "Edit in TextMate" manually but
nothing else - it seems that the esc+opt-command only uses applescript
and a little bit perl to do it's stuff (don't know right now where the
esc-autocompletion-stuff is located)

Niels

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:36 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0200
> Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some  
> initial
> characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the
> right
> selection for publication.
>
> How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?

 You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and  
 then
 push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
 pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite- 
 keys
 and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
 menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
 cite-key typed.
>>>
>>> correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for  
>>> choosing
>>> your cite-key
>>>
>>> Niels
>>
>> Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not
>> supported anymore.
>
> Well, I'm on 10.5.2 and it works fine
>
> Niels
>
> -- 

Then you must have manually installed the input manager. Unless  
TextMate now includes this natively?

Christiaan



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Niels Kobschaetzki]

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0200
Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some initial
> >>> characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the  
> >>> right
> >>> selection for publication.
> >>>
> >>> How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?
> >>
> >> You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and then
> >> push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
> >> pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite-keys
> >> and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
> >> menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
> >> cite-key typed.
> >
> > correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for choosing
> > your cite-key
> >
> > Niels
> 
> Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not  
> supported anymore.

Well, I'm on 10.5.2 and it works fine

Niels

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some initial
>>> characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the  
>>> right
>>> selection for publication.
>>>
>>> How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?
>>
>> You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and then
>> push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
>> pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite-keys
>> and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
>> menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
>> cite-key typed.
>
> correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for choosing
> your cite-key
>
> Niels

Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not  
supported anymore.

Adam Maxwell wrote a nice little plugin for TextMate that does the  
same. You can find it linked on the Wiki.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Niels Kobschaetzki]

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  >  Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some initial
>  >  characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the right
>  >  selection for publication.
>  >
>  >  How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?
>
>  You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and then
>  push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
>  pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite-keys
>  and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
>  menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
>  cite-key typed.

correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for choosing
your cite-key

Niels

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Niels Kobschaetzki]

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some initial
>  characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the right
>  selection for publication.
>
>  How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?

You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and then
push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite-keys
and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
cite-key typed.
TextMate will use the bib-file which you have referenced in
\bibliography{} and the latex-bundle has to be active.

Niels

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