Re: Init acting the maggot?
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 10:39 +0100, Declan Moriarty wrote: > You are very kind to them. Between the old way and the new, even m$ > would have gone bust if they had tried that. The trouble is, the new > way > is going to be worse. They tried this with pcmcia support and > succeeded > in proving that linux was a _lousy_ platform for responding to device > changes on the fly. Ditto with apm, which the laptop guys poured their > brains into for years, only to find it buggered beyond belief by the > variations and they dumped 6 years of hard work and started with acpi, > which, AFAICT, is going the same way. Be fair - blaming the linux developers for APM and ACPI is just wrong. Those are the hardware standards they need to support if people are to usefully run Linux on laptops - you think even trying to support those standards is a bad idea? > Automount - remember that? Devfs - rewmember that? The current > failure is udev. It runs so totally counter to the secure nature of > linux (No hacker can even climb up the suers into a linux box) to have > a > hacker be able to plug a usb disk into the usb port and have > everything > say "Hello!", welcome it, and mount it! Ok, that's just paranoid, and somewhat uninformed. Udev does one thing - it creates device nodes in /dev when the kernel tells it to. No more, no less. What you appear to be thinking of is more extended frameworks like HAL, but all that does is monitor available hardware and notify userspace clients of any relevant changes. However, it doesn't automount anything either - all it does is maintain policy on what to do with devices, and pass it on to any interested listeners. In fact, the only thing that actually does automounting is a user service - gnome-volume-manager in Gnome, or some KDE equivalent. But both of these are run as ordinary users, and subject to whatever permissions that user has. In Ubuntu (and recent Debian), hotplugged devices are always assigned (by udev, I think) to a particular group, so only members of that group can mount them. Short version, do you really think these guys haven't considered security at all? I follow the HAL mailing list, and they take it pretty seriously - many of the core developers are Redhat employees who work fairly closely with the people working on SE-Linux, trying to lock things down even more than Linux has traditionally allowed. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Good suggestion. However, to the best of my knowledge, there's been > *one* report (the recent one, in this thread) in the last year or so > where the sed command in the X instructions using a backtick has > (maybe) caused someone a problem. > > I'm not sure we need to go to a bunch of trouble because of *one* > report of a fouled up installation. > Well, I suggested it because it's a common mistake, one I think we've all stumbled across at one time. But thinking about it, nothing should be done...having tripped over it once (well it took me a couple of times), it's stuck very well by now, and since all the shells in BLFS support the original syntax, even better. BTW, ash and zsh both support either syntax. tcsh does not like the $(command). -- DJ Lucas -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: ssh woes
Archaic wrote: > I am baffled looking for an option I can't seem to find. I need to ssh > into a particular server and make it prompt for the user name each time. > However, the only thing I am seeing is how to specify a user other than > your local username. I need to *not* specifiy a user and then have the > server ask. I've tried forcing keyboard-interactive as the only auth > method, but that doesn't work. I've tried setting options on commandline > and in .ssh/config. > > Any ideas? > > I don't know why I bothered knowing that both you and Justin aready tried to find it, but I dug around a bit anyway, and found the same dead end. I do know that the putty ssh client for windows prompts for a username after making the connection, so it is definately possible, but that is from the client side...and windows only AFAIK. -- DJ Lucas -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
Chris wrote these words on 07/02/05 18:50 CST: > Maybe somewhere near the beginning of the BLFS book there should be > something about how "many software package installations have long and > sometimes complicated commands" (and not just commands - sometimes long > configuration files, like Xorg/XFree86's host.def), followed by a link > to the section on installing GPM. This should at least reduce the number > of people who have these kinds of problems... Good suggestion. However, to the best of my knowledge, there's been *one* report (the recent one, in this thread) in the last year or so where the sed command in the X instructions using a backtick has (maybe) caused someone a problem. I'm not sure we need to go to a bunch of trouble because of *one* report of a fouled up installation. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 23:00:59 up 91 days, 22:34, 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.10, 0.04 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: gcc-3.4.x testsuite and pch
David Jensen wrote these words on 07/02/05 22:57 CST: > Rebuilding GCC-3.4.x as in the BLFS-book-6.0 (or svn), I cannot get the > testsuite to pass the precompiled headers tests. All fail, more than a > hundred. Always! Very odd. I had very good results. See the link in the book to the example test results. This is from a GCC-3.4.3 build using BLFS instructions. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 22:56:00 up 91 days, 22:29, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.03 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
DJ Lucas wrote: David Jensen wrote: Beat me to it by two minutes... mlij wrote: The back tick ` key is under the tilde ~ Have to be careful with locations... I almost said the same thing but remembered that QWERTY is not the only keyboard out there, and I know nothing of other layouts. :-) I thought of that, but decided it would get him looking. I had to find a manual first time I saw back ticks! Yes I was thinking the same...see my second reply, but I think that in light of the fact that most wouldn't be using CnP yet, that maybe the book should use this syntax instead. Problem is that it's not portable. Droping ash on the box again to test it, but tcsh is definately out. One would think a user who switches his shell could muddle through a sed command. Still I expect the back tick bit everyone once. -- David Jensen -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: ssh woes
Archaic wrote: into a particular server and make it prompt for the user name each time. Hi Archaic, I also took a look, but beside the -l option to specify the username, I don't see any other option. Didn't find much in google either. Sorry. Justin -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
gcc-3.4.x testsuite and pch
Rebuilding GCC-3.4.x as in the BLFS-book-6.0 (or svn), I cannot get the testsuite to pass the precompiled headers tests. All fail, more than a hundred. Always! They *Never* fail the in the LFS Chapter 6 test. I've tried nearing ten times on several builds (gcc-3.4.4/glibc-2.3.5) (gcc-3.4.3/glibc-2.3.4) I just built 4.0.0 no failures. Baffled. -- David Jensen -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
DJ Lucas wrote: Yes I was thinking the same...see my second reply, but I think that in light of the fact that most wouldn't be using CnP yet, that maybe the book should use this syntax instead. Problem is that it's not portable. Droping ash on the box again to test it, but tcsh is definately out. -- David Jensen -- DJ Lucas Maybe somewhere near the beginning of the BLFS book there should be something about how "many software package installations have long and sometimes complicated commands" (and not just commands - sometimes long configuration files, like Xorg/XFree86's host.def), followed by a link to the section on installing GPM. This should at least reduce the number of people who have these kinds of problems... -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
Randy McMurchy wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote these words on 07/02/05 22:12 CST: > > >>BTW, for the other devs reading this...might it be better in this >>particular case to use $(command) syntax? > > > I am not certain, as I use Bash almost exclusively any more, but > is $(command) syntax available in other shells, as well as in Bash? > > I've noticed there have been changes to the bootscripts, or at least > talk of changes, to remove "bashisms". We need to ensure that the > commands we use are available to as many shells as possible. > Yes I thought about it after I let the fingers fly (it's in my other message). tcsh definately doesn't like it, but it's not very common for a default shell. I believe ash does, haven't tested just yet, and I'm not sure about zsh. And yeah, the bootscript changes will be going in shortly...as soon as I test what I have so far. -- DJ Lucas -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 07/02/05 22:38 CST: > Yes I was thinking the same...see my second reply, but I think that in > light of the fact that most wouldn't be using CnP yet, that maybe the > book should use this syntax instead. Problem is that it's not portable. > Droping ash on the box again to test it, but tcsh is definately out. Please, test Zsh as well. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 22:43:00 up 91 days, 22:16, 2 users, load average: 0.11, 0.06, 0.06 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
David Jensen wrote: Beat me to it by two minutes... > mlij wrote: > >> What is Cnp? >> > Cut and Paste, click and drag to select, middle click to paste. > >> If I run only grep -lr linux/config.h, there are a list of files. >> So I think that this command is ok. >> >> I have already put " and put nothing. >> Nothing works!!! > > > The back tick ` key is under the tilde ~ Have to be careful with locations... I almost said the same thing but remembered that QWERTY is not the only keyboard out there, and I know nothing of other layouts. :-) > Are you sure you are not using the single quote ' key. > If it still doesn't work try: > > sed -i -e "[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/* & */@" \ >$(grep -lr linux/config.h *) > Yes I was thinking the same...see my second reply, but I think that in light of the fact that most wouldn't be using CnP yet, that maybe the book should use this syntax instead. Problem is that it's not portable. Droping ash on the box again to test it, but tcsh is definately out. > -- > David Jensen > -- DJ Lucas -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 07/02/05 22:12 CST: > BTW, for the other devs reading this...might it be better in this > particular case to use $(command) syntax? I am not certain, as I use Bash almost exclusively any more, but is $(command) syntax available in other shells, as well as in Bash? I've noticed there have been changes to the bootscripts, or at least talk of changes, to remove "bashisms". We need to ensure that the commands we use are available to as many shells as possible. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 22:18:00 up 91 days, 21:51, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.08, 0.02 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
ssh woes
I am baffled looking for an option I can't seem to find. I need to ssh into a particular server and make it prompt for the user name each time. However, the only thing I am seeing is how to specify a user other than your local username. I need to *not* specifiy a user and then have the server ask. I've tried forcing keyboard-interactive as the only auth method, but that doesn't work. I've tried setting options on commandline and in .ssh/config. Any ideas? -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your operating system? Hardened Linux From Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hlfs -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
mlij wrote: > What is Cnp? > How can I use it? > Sorry for that. CnP is 'Copy and Paste'. > If I run only grep -lr linux/config.h, there are a list of files. > So I think that this command is ok. > > I have already put " and put nothing. > Nothing works!!! > > How you wrote, I believe the problem is on the sed command. > Why sed do not read grep command? > Ken's analysis is correct. The error message shows that the grep command was a single argument rather than a command to expand. That most likely means that you are using "'" (single quote) instead of "`" (backtick). I've made that mistake myself many times. :-) BTW, for the other devs reading this...might it be better in this particular case to use $(command) syntax? -- DJ Lucas -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
mlij wrote: What is Cnp? Cut and Paste, click and drag to select, middle click to paste. If I run only grep -lr linux/config.h, there are a list of files. So I think that this command is ok. I have already put " and put nothing. Nothing works!!! The back tick ` key is under the tilde ~ Are you sure you are not using the single quote ' key. If it still doesn't work try: sed -i -e "[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/* & */@" \ $(grep -lr linux/config.h *) -- David Jensen -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
Ken Moffat wrote:
That _sounds_ as if the back-ticks ("`") are not recognised. When it
works properly (which it does, for many of us), the grep command is
replaced by its results, i.e. a list of files containing linux/config.h.
I'm guessing you typed it in (because many people don't have
copy-and-paste before X is working) and forgot the back-ticks ?
I did not forget to put back-ticks.
DJ Lucas wrote:
The problem is in the sed
command. Did you use CnP...by chance put in a space after the backslash?
Fortunately, the compile can contiue without starting over or anything
like that. Try the sed again, and make sure it works before going on
with the make line.
-- DJ Lucas
What is Cnp?
How can I use it?
If I run only grep -lr linux/config.h, there are a list of files.
So I think that this command is ok.
I have already put " and put nothing.
Nothing works!!!
How you wrote, I believe the problem is on the sed command.
Why sed do not read grep command?
Marcos
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Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
mlij wrote: > Install Xorg: > > After the command: > > sed -i -e "[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/* & */@" \ > `grep -lr linux/config.h *` && > ( make World 2>&1 | tee xorg-compile.log && exit $PIPESTATUS ) > > There is the message: > sed: it is not possible to read grep -lr linux/config.h: > file or directory not found. > > So I tried run without the grep command. > However, there was an error. > > From the file xorg-compile.log: > > /usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: #error "Compilation aborted. Please > read the FAQ for linux-libc-headers package." > /usr/include/linux/config.h:2:2: #error "(can be found at > http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/doc/)" > make[5]: ** [clientattrib.o] Erro 1 > make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild/lib/GL/glx' > make[4]: ** [all] Erro 2 > make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild/lib/GL' > make[3]: ** [all] Erro 2 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild/lib' > make[2]: ** [all] Erro 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild' > make[1]: ** [World] Erro 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild' > make: ** [World] Erro 2 > > I read the faq, but ... > So I think that the problem is the installation of linux-libc-headers > package. > Am I right? > What do I have to do to fix this? > > Marcos > BFLS 6.0 > LFS 6.0 Actually no. The problem is that xorg includes a header file that should never be included in userspace apps, and consequently the error to let you know that xorg is doing something they are not supposed to do (and have been doing for a long time). The problem is in the sed command. Did you use CnP...by chance put in a space after the backslash? Fortunately, the compile can contiue without starting over or anything like that. Try the sed again, and make sure it works before going on with the make line. -- DJ Lucas -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: config.h error (Install Xorg)
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, mlij wrote:
> Install Xorg:
>
> After the command:
>
> sed -i -e "[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/* & */@" \
> `grep -lr linux/config.h *` &&
> ( make World 2>&1 | tee xorg-compile.log && exit $PIPESTATUS )
>
> There is the message:
> sed: it is not possible to read grep -lr linux/config.h:
> file or directory not found.
>
That _sounds_ as if the back-ticks ("`") are not recognised. When it
works properly (which it does, for many of us), the grep command is
replaced by its results, i.e. a list of files containing linux/config.h.
I'm guessing you typed it in (because many people don't have
copy-and-paste before X is working) and forgot the back-ticks ?
> So I tried run without the grep command.
> However, there was an error.
Yes, if you read the book, it explains why the grep command is
necessary.
Ken
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Re: video4linux
Andrew Benton wrote: video4linux mailing list https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/video4linux-list A lot of the traffic there is technical stuff about kernel patches, but there are plenty of nice people who are willing to help with more basic problems. Also, the ivtv forum http://www.shspvr.com/smf/ or do they just do the PVR-250 and PVR-350 cards? Thanks for the tips, the ivtv lead me on to the solution. (Well, to the v4l-problem. Things don't work quite yet, but I got past that one...) It turns out these cards are actually loaded with "firmware" every time the driver connects to them, and that this firmware must be extracted from Windows files and placed in /lib/modules. This was completely new to me, so without them the ivtv driver never got around to "firing up" the v4l stuff at all... J.O. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
config.h error (Install Xorg)
Install Xorg: After the command: sed -i -e "[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/* & */@" \ `grep -lr linux/config.h *` && ( make World 2>&1 | tee xorg-compile.log && exit $PIPESTATUS ) There is the message: sed: it is not possible to read grep -lr linux/config.h: file or directory not found. So I tried run without the grep command. However, there was an error. From the file xorg-compile.log: /usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: #error "Compilation aborted. Please read the FAQ for linux-libc-headers package." /usr/include/linux/config.h:2:2: #error "(can be found at http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/doc/)" make[5]: ** [clientattrib.o] Erro 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild/lib/GL/glx' make[4]: ** [all] Erro 2 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild/lib/GL' make[3]: ** [all] Erro 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild/lib' make[2]: ** [all] Erro 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild' make[1]: ** [World] Erro 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xcbuild' make: ** [World] Erro 2 I read the faq, but ... So I think that the problem is the installation of linux-libc-headers package. Am I right? What do I have to do to fix this? Marcos BFLS 6.0 LFS 6.0 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: video4linux
Jens Olav Nygaard wrote: Framegrabber software and such is not in the BLFS, as far as I know, but I'm really stomped regarding this one, so here goes... I've successfully run a very old Miro-something-bttv-based tv/grabber- card for many years, which I now replaced with a WinTV PVR150 which is supposed to grab more and faster. However, my problem seems to have to do with video4linux and/or udev and/or maybe the whole installation, as it manifests itself like a troublesome /dev/video device: bombadil 613>ls -l /dev/video0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81, 0 Jul 2 19:45 /dev/video0 bombadil 614>v4l-info /dev/video0 open /dev/video0: No such device I have driver modules loaded (bttv, v4l2_common, ivtv, tuner, ...) which I thought should be sufficient to get something more intelligible than the above error message. What does it say in /var/log/sys.log when you load the modules? Does it say it detected the card correctly? You may find more expert help on the video4linux mailing list https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/video4linux-list A lot of the traffic there is technical stuff about kernel patches, but there are plenty of nice people who are willing to help with more basic problems. Also, the ivtv forum http://www.shspvr.com/smf/ or do they just do the PVR-250 and PVR-350 cards? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
video4linux
Framegrabber software and such is not in the BLFS, as far as I know, but I'm really stomped regarding this one, so here goes... I've successfully run a very old Miro-something-bttv-based tv/grabber- card for many years, which I now replaced with a WinTV PVR150 which is supposed to grab more and faster. However, my problem seems to have to do with video4linux and/or udev and/or maybe the whole installation, as it manifests itself like a troublesome /dev/video device: bombadil 613>ls -l /dev/video0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81, 0 Jul 2 19:45 /dev/video0 bombadil 614>v4l-info /dev/video0 open /dev/video0: No such device I have driver modules loaded (bttv, v4l2_common, ivtv, tuner, ...) which I thought should be sufficient to get something more intelligible than the above error message. Is there something glaringly wrong I do here? If anybody has a clue to pass along, it would be great... J.O. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Problem with REBOOT and HALT
Recently, Somebody Somewhere wrote these words
> Hello!
> After installation Shadow-4.0.7 commands "halt" and "reboot" have
> ceased to work ("shutdovn" works). Why?
>
Probably something is screwed up.
reboot is a symlink to /sbin/halt. Check existence, permissions.
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Re: 2.6 Cursor problem (was init acting the maggot):-(
Recently, Somebody Somewhere wrote these words > On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Declan Moriarty wrote: > > > > Did the cursor work adequately on 2.6 in the past ? > > > > > Never. But I never used 2.6 much. > > > > > Which version of 2.6 are you now using, and which was your > > > previous working version ? > > > > 2.6.12.1. > > > > 2.6.0, 2.6.9, & 2.6.10 all showed the same thing. > > > > So, this isn't a regression within 2.6. No, it not. It appears to be a regression 2.4 --> 2.6 :-) > > > Next bit of spare time I'll stick the framebuffer back in. I have > > memories that 1. The radeon card responds strangely to the radeon > > module. 2. I have downgraded the monitor to a cheap/nasty type > > which may not do what the previous one did. > > Perhaps try CONFIG_FB_SOFT_CURSOR and CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS with > CONFIG_FB_RADEON and CONFIG_FB_RADEON_I2C and make sure any other > framebuffers are not set. Apart from some junk in the early visual > output up to maybe 2.6.7, and a missing penguin around 2.6.9 or > 2.6.10, the radeon has worked well here as a console framebuffer > during 2.6. > > In xorg.conf, I use > Driver "radeon" > (not "ati", not "fb") > > You may find that the bootargs I quoted for the radeon are wrong - > another box of mine uses video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - they both seem > to give me a 128x48 framebuffer console, at least when I don't use a > graphical login. > > I can fart around with arguments and options for the video. I'm not scared of that. I did get fed up trying to master this curcor thing, so I stuck in the ALFS stuff, wiped my 3.3 libs, logs includes, and executables, and had chapter 6 & 7 of LFS-6.0 build themselves last evening. The thing knew best, of course. It stuck in UDEV(!) after me loudly say6ing "That will never work - ever". Of course it decided I wanted HOTPLUG (Aaaargh!) and I just have hung on the bootscripts for some reason. That will give me an LFS-6.0, and then I have the BLFS-6.0 profile there for another bit of work. At least I will prove if the problem is system specific. Mind you, I have to send this & reboot into a 2.6 kernel to build. I got an error from the toolchain (Glibc IIRC) FATAL: kernel too old when I was running 2.4.22 -- With best Regards, Declan Moriarty. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
