[Blind-Computing] the list is back on

2011-11-10 Thread David Ferrin
Now here's the deal, follow the guidelines or go play some place else. Let's
go back to doing the good work this list was created to do, thank you. 
 
David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com
 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [Blind-Computing] sound recorder

2011-11-10 Thread Mike & Barbara
HI Kevin,

I don't know where I got the information below but, perhaps this will help.

SOUND RECORDER
This application will allow you to record for about 2 minutes.
However, a much larger sound file can be loaded, played, and
edited.
Up to about 76mb on a machine with 128mb of installed ram.
The size limitation for Sound Recorder seems to be affected by the amount of 
memorey.
On a machine with 496mb of ram, I was able to load a 207mb file.
This is a very limited sound editor.
To make a recording of "JAWS" reading text, the, "what you
hear", setting must be selected, when using a SoundBlaster soundcard.

Where to find:"what you hear"
Go to volume control, then from the menu bar select properties.
Note: when trying to make a sound file, using "JAWS" to read a
text file in "Notepad", after returning to "Notepad" from "Sound
Recorder", the screen must be refreshed, in order for "JAWS" to
read the text properly.
Extending the Record time.
But first, we have to set sound recorder up to make the .WAV files we need 
for audio CDs. So Click the properties button.

So here we are in properties. I've put arrows to show you that your sound 
recorder comes set up at PCM 22050kHz, 8bit, mono. This is because it's 
really
set up for a microphone. What we're going to do is click the 'Convert Now' 
button to the right of the 'all formats' drop down menu. Oh and it's 
important
to do this now BEFORE you record, because you want to capture the sound in 
the same quality that you'll use for your CDs.

So when we click Convert now, we get this popup box which lets us adjust the 
sound. Interesting isn't it that this little sound recorder can do so much.
Look at all the options you have.

Anyway, at the bottom, we're going to select 44,100kHz, 16 Bit Stereo. 
That's the right setting for audio CDs. It's already set for PCM which is 
Pulse Code
Modulation, which is what we want to make .WAV files. Finally, we want to 
click the Save As button because we want to save this setting.

Sound Recorder won't remember what you've set, so you'll have to come here 
to reset it whenever you turn on your computer. But don't worry, you won't 
even
have to do that when we're finished.

So this is the dialog box for giving our settings a name. I chose LPcopy, 
but you can call it anything you want.

OK, now comes the super secret of how to use Sound Recorder to copy your 
LPs. If you've ever used Sound Recorder you know that it only records for up 
to
one minute. Well, that sure won't copy a 2-1/2 minute to 3 minute track.

Ah, but I've got a workaround for you that YOU WILL ONLY HAVE TO DO ONCE. 
OK, here's the big secret. We're going to make a copy LP template. And 
here's
how to do it.

Start Sound Recorder with nothing turned on. No sound. It will start to 
record and the little green line will stay flat. Around 40 or 50 seconds, 
click
the stop button (the square one). This is where it gets good.

Then click the Record button again and guess what. You've just increased the 
time from 50-60 seconds up to about 100 seconds. When it gets near the end
again, (about 100 seconds but it really doesn't matter) Click Stop again and 
then click Record.

Let's look below.

You see here I've stopped the recording at 92.90 seconds (no particular 
reason) and I'm ready to click record again to add another 50 or 60 seconds 
onto
my LP recording template.

Look Below again.

So here we are at 240.20 seconds (4 minutes). This is more than enough to 
copy most songs (tracks) and this will be your first template.

Oh, why did I stop the recorder at 50 or so seconds instead of just letting 
it stop itself at 60 seconds? Well there is a reason. Some computers reset 
themselves
at the 60 second mark. Most don't. So, try it yourself. If you computer lets 
you just keep hitting record after each 60 seconds, do it that way. It's 
less
work. And don't forget, you only have to do this once. Because we're making 
a template.

Later, you can use this same method to make a longer template to record 
multiple tracks. There doesn't seem to be a limitation as to how long you 
set your
track template except that depending on your computer speed, you might not 
be able to get up to 20 or 30 minutes. I could on my 1Ghz computers with no
problem, but on a 300Mhz computer I started bogging down after 12-15 
minutes. So for single tracks, this works for everyone. For longer 
recordings, it's
limited only by your computer.

Oh, One More Extra Tip. Don't forget that you can use these types of 
templates you create to use Windows Sound Recorder for other purposes.
Record a presentation.
Send a message.
Narrate a slide show.
Record Narration for a movie.
Lots More ideas.

It's all easy once you know how to create these easy templates.

So, here we are saving our template. Remember, you can call it anything you 
want. Just pick something that makes sense to you and that you save 
somewhere
you can easily find it.

Now comes the fun part. You're ready to record. Here's what you do

Re: [Blind-Computing] the list is back on

2011-11-10 Thread jerry martin
David:  Thanks so much for all you do; both in managing the constant flow of 
messages and in supplying us with helpful information/instructions as to how 
JAWS works with many of the applications we use on a daily basis.  Keep up 
the great work.  Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:11 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] the list is back on


Now here's the deal, follow the guidelines or go play some place else. 
Let's

go back to doing the good work this list was created to do, thank you.

David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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Re: [Blind-Computing] sound recorder

2011-11-10 Thread Rick Justice
Hey bro,
Does this sound familiar?
http://www.blind-computing.com/audio/pages/windows_sound_recorder.html
Just trying to refresh your old memory! lol
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] sound recorder


HI Kevin,

I don't know where I got the information below but, perhaps this will help.

SOUND RECORDER
This application will allow you to record for about 2 minutes.
However, a much larger sound file can be loaded, played, and
edited.
Up to about 76mb on a machine with 128mb of installed ram.
The size limitation for Sound Recorder seems to be affected by the amount of
memorey.
On a machine with 496mb of ram, I was able to load a 207mb file.
This is a very limited sound editor.
To make a recording of "JAWS" reading text, the, "what you
hear", setting must be selected, when using a SoundBlaster soundcard.

Where to find:"what you hear"
Go to volume control, then from the menu bar select properties.
Note: when trying to make a sound file, using "JAWS" to read a
text file in "Notepad", after returning to "Notepad" from "Sound
Recorder", the screen must be refreshed, in order for "JAWS" to
read the text properly.
Extending the Record time.
But first, we have to set sound recorder up to make the .WAV files we need
for audio CDs. So Click the properties button.

So here we are in properties. I've put arrows to show you that your sound
recorder comes set up at PCM 22050kHz, 8bit, mono. This is because it's
really
set up for a microphone. What we're going to do is click the 'Convert Now'
button to the right of the 'all formats' drop down menu. Oh and it's
important
to do this now BEFORE you record, because you want to capture the sound in
the same quality that you'll use for your CDs.

So when we click Convert now, we get this popup box which lets us adjust the
sound. Interesting isn't it that this little sound recorder can do so much.
Look at all the options you have.

Anyway, at the bottom, we're going to select 44,100kHz, 16 Bit Stereo.
That's the right setting for audio CDs. It's already set for PCM which is
Pulse Code
Modulation, which is what we want to make .WAV files. Finally, we want to
click the Save As button because we want to save this setting.

Sound Recorder won't remember what you've set, so you'll have to come here
to reset it whenever you turn on your computer. But don't worry, you won't
even
have to do that when we're finished.

So this is the dialog box for giving our settings a name. I chose LPcopy,
but you can call it anything you want.

OK, now comes the super secret of how to use Sound Recorder to copy your
LPs. If you've ever used Sound Recorder you know that it only records for up
to
one minute. Well, that sure won't copy a 2-1/2 minute to 3 minute track.

Ah, but I've got a workaround for you that YOU WILL ONLY HAVE TO DO ONCE.
OK, here's the big secret. We're going to make a copy LP template. And
here's
how to do it.

Start Sound Recorder with nothing turned on. No sound. It will start to
record and the little green line will stay flat. Around 40 or 50 seconds,
click
the stop button (the square one). This is where it gets good.

Then click the Record button again and guess what. You've just increased the
time from 50-60 seconds up to about 100 seconds. When it gets near the end
again, (about 100 seconds but it really doesn't matter) Click Stop again and
then click Record.

Let's look below.

You see here I've stopped the recording at 92.90 seconds (no particular
reason) and I'm ready to click record again to add another 50 or 60 seconds
onto
my LP recording template.

Look Below again.

So here we are at 240.20 seconds (4 minutes). This is more than enough to
copy most songs (tracks) and this will be your first template.

Oh, why did I stop the recorder at 50 or so seconds instead of just letting
it stop itself at 60 seconds? Well there is a reason. Some computers reset
themselves
at the 60 second mark. Most don't. So, try it yourself. If you computer lets
you just keep hitting record after each 60 seconds, do it that way. It's
less
work. And don't forget, you only have to do this once. Because we're making
a template.

Later, you can use this same method to make a longer template to record
multiple tracks. There doesn't seem to be a limitation as to how long you
set your
track template except that depending on your computer speed, you might not
be able to get up to 20 or 30 minutes. I could on my 1Ghz computers with no
problem, but on a 300Mhz computer I started bogging down after 12-15
minutes. So for single tracks, this works for everyone. For longer
recordings, it's
limited only by your computer.

Oh, One More Extra Tip. Don't forget that you can use these types of
templates you create to use Windows Sound Recorder for other purposes.
Record a presentation.
Send a message.
Narrate a slide show.
Record Narration for a movie.
Lots More ideas.

It's all easy once you know how

Re: [Blind-Computing] sound recorder

2011-11-10 Thread Mike & Barbara
Hey HTH, Rick Justice,

Who are you & what are you wanting to refresh my memory about?!
Mike
hahaha hahaha hahaha



  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Justice
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] sound recorder


  Hey bro,
  Does this sound familiar?
  http://www.blind-computing.com/audio/pages/windows_sound_recorder.html
  Just trying to refresh your old memory! lol
  HTH,
  Rick Justice
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Mike & Barbara" 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] sound recorder


  HI Kevin,

  I don't know where I got the information below but, perhaps this will 
help.

  SOUND RECORDER
  This application will allow you to record for about 2 minutes.
  However, a much larger sound file can be loaded, played, and
  edited.
  Up to about 76mb on a machine with 128mb of installed ram.
  The size limitation for Sound Recorder seems to be affected by the amount 
of
  memorey.
  On a machine with 496mb of ram, I was able to load a 207mb file.
  This is a very limited sound editor.
  To make a recording of "JAWS" reading text, the, "what you
  hear", setting must be selected, when using a SoundBlaster soundcard.

  Where to find:"what you hear"
  Go to volume control, then from the menu bar select properties.
  Note: when trying to make a sound file, using "JAWS" to read a
  text file in "Notepad", after returning to "Notepad" from "Sound
  Recorder", the screen must be refreshed, in order for "JAWS" to
  read the text properly.
  Extending the Record time.
  But first, we have to set sound recorder up to make the .WAV files we need
  for audio CDs. So Click the properties button.

  So here we are in properties. I've put arrows to show you that your sound
  recorder comes set up at PCM 22050kHz, 8bit, mono. This is because it's
  really
  set up for a microphone. What we're going to do is click the 'Convert Now'
  button to the right of the 'all formats' drop down menu. Oh and it's
  important
  to do this now BEFORE you record, because you want to capture the sound in
  the same quality that you'll use for your CDs.

  So when we click Convert now, we get this popup box which lets us adjust 
the
  sound. Interesting isn't it that this little sound recorder can do so 
much.
  Look at all the options you have.

  Anyway, at the bottom, we're going to select 44,100kHz, 16 Bit Stereo.
  That's the right setting for audio CDs. It's already set for PCM which is
  Pulse Code
  Modulation, which is what we want to make .WAV files. Finally, we want to
  click the Save As button because we want to save this setting.

  Sound Recorder won't remember what you've set, so you'll have to come here
  to reset it whenever you turn on your computer. But don't worry, you won't
  even
  have to do that when we're finished.

  So this is the dialog box for giving our settings a name. I chose LPcopy,
  but you can call it anything you want.

  OK, now comes the super secret of how to use Sound Recorder to copy your
  LPs. If you've ever used Sound Recorder you know that it only records for 
up
  to
  one minute. Well, that sure won't copy a 2-1/2 minute to 3 minute track.

  Ah, but I've got a workaround for you that YOU WILL ONLY HAVE TO DO ONCE.
  OK, here's the big secret. We're going to make a copy LP template. And
  here's
  how to do it.

  Start Sound Recorder with nothing turned on. No sound. It will start to
  record and the little green line will stay flat. Around 40 or 50 seconds,
  click
  the stop button (the square one). This is where it gets good.

  Then click the Record button again and guess what. You've just increased 
the
  time from 50-60 seconds up to about 100 seconds. When it gets near the end
  again, (about 100 seconds but it really doesn't matter) Click Stop again 
and
  then click Record.

  Let's look below.

  You see here I've stopped the recording at 92.90 seconds (no particular
  reason) and I'm ready to click record again to add another 50 or 60 
seconds
  onto
  my LP recording template.

  Look Below again.

  So here we are at 240.20 seconds (4 minutes). This is more than enough to
  copy most songs (tracks) and this will be your first template.

  Oh, why did I stop the recorder at 50 or so seconds instead of just 
letting
  it stop itself at 60 seconds? Well there is a reason. Some computers reset
  themselves
  at the 60 second mark. Most don't. So, try it yourself. If you computer 
lets
  you just keep hitting record after each 60 seconds, do it that way. It's
  less
  work. And don't forget, you only have to do this once. Because we're 
making
  a template.

  Later, you can use this same method to make a longer template to record
  multiple tracks. There doesn't seem to be a limitation as to how long you
  set your
  track template except that depending on your computer speed, you might not
  be able to get up to 20 or 30 minutes. I coul

Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

2011-11-10 Thread Kimsan
Hi Dorris,
So I must be  running firefox to be using this?,

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:24 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

Google for something called "Tor Browser". This is free also and allows to
hide the ip address for unblocked browsing. It is bundled with Firefox and
therefore works fine with jaws. It can even be run portably from a flash
drive. the installed version also allows for instant messaging, I think but
i have never tried that part.

hth

Doris




At 12:53 AM 11/9/2011 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Accessing programs might be a little tricky once you've connected to 
>Hot Spot Shield. For example, I could not use AIM when the shield was 
>running. I guess it wouldn't connect to the AOL server. So what I had 
>to do was connect Aim and then run Hot Spot Shield. As far as 
>unblocking websites goes, it works like a charm, although I haven't had 
>to use it in quite some time.
>If for whatever reason it doesn't work for you, you can try another 
>similar program called Ultra Surf. It's free and a google search should 
>turn up a download link.
>
>On 11/8/11, Kimsan  wrote:
> > Martina,
> > How would this hotspotshield thing work for accessing games where 
> > you enter in a client and you play games against others on the internet?
> > What I am talking about is not actually going
> onto a website but entering in
> > the client via your desktop or under all programs.
> > Just trying to figure out the limitations and what this hotspot 
> > shield can do besides what I read on the internet.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Martina 
> > Letochová
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:58 PM
> > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Hi Kimsan!
> > I guess it should work fine unblocking sites at workplaces etc. 
> > After installing it just sits in the background and you can access 
> > it from the systray where you can connect/disconnect when you need; 
> > can't remember anymore how it's set on default after the
> installation. And yes, if you find
> > out you don't like it you can always
> uninstall it like most programs via the
> > add/remove.
> > Martina
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > From: "Kimsan" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:51 PM
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Martina:
> > I have been on google here trying to find more info about 
> > hotspotshield but every site I navigate to it is blocked.
> > So..., seeing as I cannot access any educated descriptions, I will 
> > count on you or someone else who is board enough to respond to educate
me.
> > How will hotspotshield work for those who are at a work place where 
> > every hot dam url is blocked? Or is that entirely different issue?
> > Finally..., if one does not like hotspotshield, you can always 
> > remove it from the programs and feature/or add/remove right?
> >
> > Thank you.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Martina 
> > Letochová
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:43 PM
> > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Yes, I used it for some time and it was great but now it doesn't 
> > seem to work here anymore for some reason; it keeps looking for a 
> > server to connect to without success and I dunno how to change it. 
> > For those who don't know, it's a program to hide IP addresses so you 
> > can access sites without restrictions as some tend to allow access
> only for certain countries; unlike
> > other proxies this doesn't slow down the connection. The site is:
> > http://www.hotspotshield.com
> > Martina
> >
> >
> > --
> > From: "Kimsan" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:17 PM
> > To: "blind computing" 
> > Subject: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Has anyone heard of this software and if so opinions?
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
>
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>http://www.jaws-user

Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

2011-11-10 Thread David Ferrin
You wouldn't know this but she left the list this morning. 


David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:12 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

Hi Dorris,
So I must be  running firefox to be using this?,

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:24 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

Google for something called "Tor Browser". This is free also and allows to
hide the ip address for unblocked browsing. It is bundled with Firefox and
therefore works fine with jaws. It can even be run portably from a flash
drive. the installed version also allows for instant messaging, I think but
i have never tried that part.

hth

Doris




At 12:53 AM 11/9/2011 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Accessing programs might be a little tricky once you've connected to 
>Hot Spot Shield. For example, I could not use AIM when the shield was 
>running. I guess it wouldn't connect to the AOL server. So what I had 
>to do was connect Aim and then run Hot Spot Shield. As far as 
>unblocking websites goes, it works like a charm, although I haven't had 
>to use it in quite some time.
>If for whatever reason it doesn't work for you, you can try another 
>similar program called Ultra Surf. It's free and a google search should 
>turn up a download link.
>
>On 11/8/11, Kimsan  wrote:
> > Martina,
> > How would this hotspotshield thing work for accessing games where 
> > you enter in a client and you play games against others on the internet?
> > What I am talking about is not actually going
> onto a website but entering in
> > the client via your desktop or under all programs.
> > Just trying to figure out the limitations and what this hotspot 
> > shield can do besides what I read on the internet.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Martina 
> > Letochová
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:58 PM
> > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Hi Kimsan!
> > I guess it should work fine unblocking sites at workplaces etc. 
> > After installing it just sits in the background and you can access 
> > it from the systray where you can connect/disconnect when you need; 
> > can't remember anymore how it's set on default after the
> installation. And yes, if you find
> > out you don't like it you can always
> uninstall it like most programs via the
> > add/remove.
> > Martina
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > From: "Kimsan" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:51 PM
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Martina:
> > I have been on google here trying to find more info about 
> > hotspotshield but every site I navigate to it is blocked.
> > So..., seeing as I cannot access any educated descriptions, I will 
> > count on you or someone else who is board enough to respond to 
> > educate
me.
> > How will hotspotshield work for those who are at a work place where 
> > every hot dam url is blocked? Or is that entirely different issue?
> > Finally..., if one does not like hotspotshield, you can always 
> > remove it from the programs and feature/or add/remove right?
> >
> > Thank you.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Martina 
> > Letochová
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:43 PM
> > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Yes, I used it for some time and it was great but now it doesn't 
> > seem to work here anymore for some reason; it keeps looking for a 
> > server to connect to without success and I dunno how to change it.
> > For those who don't know, it's a program to hide IP addresses so you 
> > can access sites without restrictions as some tend to allow access
> only for certain countries; unlike
> > other proxies this doesn't slow down the connection. The site is:
> > http://www.hotspotshield.com
> > Martina
> >
> >
> > --
> > From: "Kimsan" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:17 PM
> > To: "blind computing" 
> > Subject: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Has anyone heard of this software and if so opinions?
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
> >
> > For answers to frequently asked questions about 

Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

2011-11-10 Thread Kimsan
Oh ok David. Lol, well I will just figure it out myself about what she
posted or just stick with hotspot shield.

Laters...
-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:52 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

You wouldn't know this but she left the list this morning. 


David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:12 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

Hi Dorris,
So I must be  running firefox to be using this?,

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From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:24 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?

Google for something called "Tor Browser". This is free also and allows to
hide the ip address for unblocked browsing. It is bundled with Firefox and
therefore works fine with jaws. It can even be run portably from a flash
drive. the installed version also allows for instant messaging, I think but
i have never tried that part.

hth

Doris




At 12:53 AM 11/9/2011 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Accessing programs might be a little tricky once you've connected to 
>Hot Spot Shield. For example, I could not use AIM when the shield was 
>running. I guess it wouldn't connect to the AOL server. So what I had 
>to do was connect Aim and then run Hot Spot Shield. As far as 
>unblocking websites goes, it works like a charm, although I haven't had 
>to use it in quite some time.
>If for whatever reason it doesn't work for you, you can try another 
>similar program called Ultra Surf. It's free and a google search should 
>turn up a download link.
>
>On 11/8/11, Kimsan  wrote:
> > Martina,
> > How would this hotspotshield thing work for accessing games where 
> > you enter in a client and you play games against others on the internet?
> > What I am talking about is not actually going
> onto a website but entering in
> > the client via your desktop or under all programs.
> > Just trying to figure out the limitations and what this hotspot 
> > shield can do besides what I read on the internet.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Martina 
> > Letochová
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:58 PM
> > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Hi Kimsan!
> > I guess it should work fine unblocking sites at workplaces etc. 
> > After installing it just sits in the background and you can access 
> > it from the systray where you can connect/disconnect when you need; 
> > can't remember anymore how it's set on default after the
> installation. And yes, if you find
> > out you don't like it you can always
> uninstall it like most programs via the
> > add/remove.
> > Martina
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > From: "Kimsan" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:51 PM
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Martina:
> > I have been on google here trying to find more info about 
> > hotspotshield but every site I navigate to it is blocked.
> > So..., seeing as I cannot access any educated descriptions, I will 
> > count on you or someone else who is board enough to respond to 
> > educate
me.
> > How will hotspotshield work for those who are at a work place where 
> > every hot dam url is blocked? Or is that entirely different issue?
> > Finally..., if one does not like hotspotshield, you can always 
> > remove it from the programs and feature/or add/remove right?
> >
> > Thank you.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Martina 
> > Letochová
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:43 PM
> > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] hotspot shield?
> >
> > Yes, I used it for some time and it was great but now it doesn't 
> > seem to work here anymore for some reason; it keeps looking for a 
> > server to connect to without success and I dunno how to change it.
> > For those who don't know, it's a program to hide IP addresses so you 
> > can access sites without restrictions as some tend to allow access
> only for certain countries; unlike
> > other proxies this doesn't slow down the connection. The site is:
> > http://www.hotspotshield.com
> > Martina
> >
> >
> > --
> > From: "Kimsan" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:17 PM
> > To: "blind computin

[Blind-Computing] changing the color of text in jarte

2011-11-10 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone,

How do you change the color of text in jarte? I looked at a tutorial when 
googling and it’s all mouse-oriented. There has to be a way to do it using the 
keyboard. 

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie 
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[Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread jerry martin
To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key on 
the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes sense to 
someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Nimer M . Jaber , IC³
Hello,

When you push the minus key, you activate the JAWS cursor and when you
read and move around with your arrows you're doing so with the use of
your JAWS cursor which allows you to move unhindered between different
parts of applications and even between applications. When you route
one cursor to the other, (for example PC to JAWS) you have moved the
PC cursor to where the JAWS cursor is. Why is this useful? Let's say
you're moving around a form with your JAWS cursor because you wish to
know its layout. Your PC cursor is somewhere at the top of the page.
If you route the PC to the JAWS, you are now able to fill out the
field that your JAWS cursor is sitting on. You can not edit text with
your JAWS cursor which necessitates you moving the PC cursor to the
JAWS cursor. And when you route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, you
are moving your JAWS cursor to wherever it ended up to the PC cursor.
This is useful because if you're navigating around, your JAWS cursor
gets stuck someplace like the start button and you wish to bring it
back, or if you want to begin using the JAWS cursor where the PC
cursor is, then you route the JAWS to the PC. I hope this was more
clear.

Thanks.

On 10.11.2011, jerry martin  wrote:
> To any and All:
>
> I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the
> instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of
> routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
> difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key
> on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
> sense to someone.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Jerry
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Bob W
That's actually a good question.
I'll try to respond.

When you press either the keypad plus key (pc cursor) or the keypad minus 
key (jaws cursor key) the system simply activates either the jaws or pc 
cursor. In other words, nothing moves.

When you press the jaws key plus the minus it activates the jaws cursor and 
moves it to the pc cursor. So, the jaws cursor moves to the pc cursor.

Hope this helps.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key 
on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes 
sense to someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread jerry martin
Thanks for filling in the gaps for that.  I have been using JAWS for several 
years now, but still haven't got all of the questions answered.  It seems 
like every time I get one question answered, five more questions come out of 
that!
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question



That's actually a good question.
I'll try to respond.

When you press either the keypad plus key (pc cursor) or the keypad minus
key (jaws cursor key) the system simply activates either the jaws or pc
cursor. In other words, nothing moves.

When you press the jaws key plus the minus it activates the jaws cursor 
and

moves it to the pc cursor. So, the jaws cursor moves to the pc cursor.

Hope this helps.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus 
key

on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
sense to someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread jerry martin

Thanks for the info.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nimer M. Jaber, IC³" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question



Hello,

When you push the minus key, you activate the JAWS cursor and when you
read and move around with your arrows you're doing so with the use of
your JAWS cursor which allows you to move unhindered between different
parts of applications and even between applications. When you route
one cursor to the other, (for example PC to JAWS) you have moved the
PC cursor to where the JAWS cursor is. Why is this useful? Let's say
you're moving around a form with your JAWS cursor because you wish to
know its layout. Your PC cursor is somewhere at the top of the page.
If you route the PC to the JAWS, you are now able to fill out the
field that your JAWS cursor is sitting on. You can not edit text with
your JAWS cursor which necessitates you moving the PC cursor to the
JAWS cursor. And when you route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, you
are moving your JAWS cursor to wherever it ended up to the PC cursor.
This is useful because if you're navigating around, your JAWS cursor
gets stuck someplace like the start button and you wish to bring it
back, or if you want to begin using the JAWS cursor where the PC
cursor is, then you route the JAWS to the PC. I hope this was more
clear.

Thanks.

On 10.11.2011, jerry martin  wrote:

To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus 
key

on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
sense to someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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for any damage caused to your machine as a result of any instructions
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread David Bundy
JAWSKey (insert) plus numpad - Ominus) routes the JAWS Cursor to the PC cursor  
 Likewise, JAWSKey plus nmumad  + routes the PC cursor to the JAWS Cursor



David W Bundy
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
POBox 2467
Columbia, SC  29202
(803)898-7094
dbu...@sccb.sc.gov


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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jerry martin
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:49 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key on 
the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes sense to 
someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Jacob Kruger
The minus key on the number row of the keyboard is a different key to the 
numpad minus key, which would generally, in jaws using desktop keyboard 
layout, be the jaws cursor key, but, if you do have numlock turned on, then 
I think the numpad minus key then also counts as/works as the number row 
minus key, and, then the normal jaws key would then count as 0 instead of 
being the jaws key, but anyway.


This is just why pushing the jaws key + number row minus key will act 
differently from hitting the jaws key + the numpad minus key.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - 
From: "jerry martin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:49 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question



To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus 
key on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing 
makes sense to someone.


Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Mike & Barbara
Hi Jerry,

Jaws actually has the use of 4 different cursors.  Below each cursor's 
function is explained.
 About JAWS Cursors
 Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
 cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
 with Windows cursors.

 The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
 This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
 applications.
 This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
 options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
 information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
 are
 making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
 currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
 starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
 you to the PC Cursor.

 The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
 The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
 applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
 such
 as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
 it
 is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
 window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
 Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
 The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
 activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
 speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
 frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
 alt
 tags in the HTML code.



Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information.  It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects.  Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object.  It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor.  It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.



Hope this helped.  Take care.

Mike



  - Original Message - 
  From: jerry martin
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


  Thanks for filling in the gaps for that.  I have been using JAWS for 
several
  years now, but still haven't got all of the questions answered.  It seems
  like every time I get one question answered, five more questions come out 
of
  that!
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Bob W" 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


  > That's actually a good question.
  > I'll try to respond.
  >
  > When you press either the keypad plus key (pc cursor) or the keypad 
minus
  > key (jaws cursor key) the system simply activates either the jaws or pc
  > cursor. In other words, nothing moves.
  >
  > When you press the jaws key plus the minus it activates the jaws cursor
  > and
  > moves it to the pc cursor. So, the jaws cursor moves to the pc cursor.
  >
  > Hope this helps.
  >
  > Bob
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: "jerry martin" 
  > To: 
  > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:49 PM
  > Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question
  >
  >
  > To any and All:
  >
  > I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of 
the
  > instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning 
of
  > routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
  > difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus
  > key
  > on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
  > sense to someone.
  >
  > Many thanks.
  >
  > Jerry
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  > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
  >
  >
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Re: [Blind-Computing] question about using dragon natcherley speeking 11.5 with jaws 12 and windows 7?

2011-11-10 Thread Mike & Barbara
Hi Mitch,

I sent your question to the Jaws-Users list & here are 2 replies.

Hi Mitch,

I sent your question to the Jaws-Users list & below are 2 replies.

From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-l...@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about using dragon natcherley 
speeking11.5 with jaws 12 and windows 7?


Yep, there is a program called J-Say that integrates Dragon Naturally
Speaking with JAWS and permits them to work smoothly with each other.  For
more info:

http://www.tandt-consultancy.com/pages/j-say_information.php

Gerald

From: Jerry Hogan
It cal J say and you get it from Next Generation, you have to be careful
what Jaws version you us because Dragon never is up to date with the newest
Jaws and using Skype and scrip you have to be careful also.  This is all I
know, there should be a fews people here can help you better.

Good Luck
Jerry
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mich
  To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:48 AM
  Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about using dragon natcherley speeking 
11.5 with jaws 12 and windows 7?


  Hi all. I have a question about using dragon natcherley speaking with jaws 
12 and windows 7. How would I go about doing this? and is there a program 
that I would need to use to work as a go between between jaws 12 and dragon 
natcherley speaking 11.5? if so what is this program cald and how would I 
get a hold of it? appairentley this new version works with a bluetooth mike 
and headset.  many thanks. from Mich.
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[Blind-Computing] windows 7 product key

2011-11-10 Thread Kimsan
Hi,

I have a long email to write and I hope someone can help. If it helps, get
your beer, smoke or tea and activate the say all command and sit back and
chill while I type this lol.

First off, I have an hp machine running windows seven pro 64 bit, which was
a Christmas gift fror me last year.

A few weekes ago, I was going to do some work on my laptop from scratch,
which involved me setting it back to factory defaults.

While it was going through the motions of setting it back to factory
defaults, a message came up and said it was unable to boot.

I turned it off completely and when I turned it back on, it said boot
manager device missing/opporating system missing. I was like huh?  Thinking
to myself, don't tell me that is what I think it means. I called hp,
explained to them what I wrote above, they told me that I needed a windows 7
pro recovery cd, so I paid for it, they sent the cd, I ran it, supposedly it
would've worked right? Well it didn't.

My jaws, window eyes, NVDA, dam near every sound coming out of my comp was
very choppy and could barely be understood. I tried navigating the best I
could, opening up programs here and there to see what else was up with the
comp after the install and by golly everything was taking 44 for evers to
load.

I ran the recovery cd again and after that everything was back to normal,
screen readers working fine, nothing was taking 44 for evers to load but.,
in the CTRL panel, it told me I had three days to enter in a product key,
which after running the recovery cd, wouldn't the key had been installed?

I waited three days, to see what would happen, so after three days, it said
I have 30 days to activate windows. Huh?

So, I called hp, gave them the shpeel, they did some trouble shooting stuff
with me and in the end, they said, since your laptop is out of worentee
status, we cannot service your laptop without a fee of anywhere to 200-300
dollars.

I told them, all I need is a key to activate windows, but sir, we do not
have any of that information on file, but you can find that information on
the bottom of your laptop, which I told them, no, the characters you are
asking me to read off to you are warn out and not one person can make out
what it is.

Hp also instructed to me to call Microsoft and ask for a key seeing as
windows seven is their product and they should be able to give you the key.
Of course, I already knew what the answer was going to be before calling
Microsoft, but what the hell, I called anyways. Low and behold, they told me
what I thought.

Sir, hp is responcible for providing you with a replacement key seeing as
windows 7 pro came preinstalled on the laptop when it was purchased.

I called hp back, told them the situation and did some more standard trouble
shooting stuff and in the end, she stated, we cannot give you a key and you
will need to purchase windows 7 pro again, which we have a  promotion for
right now!

So, seeing as I have no money to purchase win pro or to send it to hp for
repair, what is a good way to get my windows 7 pro key? I ran bilark adviser
and the majic jelly bean finder and they produced the same key, I entered it
in and it gave me an error, pretty much invalid key.

When I went into the bios to verify the s/n for my comp, it said, serial
number: UID: and a bunch of zeros, so what is up with that? What does all
the zeros mean and why after running the recovery cd, twice, the key did not
get installed? Hp said, there could be something wrong with my mother board.

If someone can help me figure out how to obtain my windows 7 pro key that
would be great, besides paying for one because lol, I am broke.

Thanks for listening. 

 

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