[BlindHandyMan] FW: Accessible Devices Recently Released: Web Anywhere

[tunecollector]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Parker at Vip
conduit
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:42 PM
To: Accessible Devices
Subject: Accessible Devices Recently Released: Web Anywhere

This is all the information we currently have about this.
The University of Washington has issued the following announcement:
Online service lets blind surf the Internet from any computer, anywhere
Visions of future technology don't involve being chained to a desktop
machine.  People move from home computers to work computers to mobile
devices; public
kiosks pop up in libraries, schools and hotels; and
people increasingly store everything from e-mail to spreadsheets on the Web.
But for the roughly 10 million people in the United States who are blind
or visually impaired, using a computer has, so far, required special
screen-reading software typically installed only on their own machines.
New software, called WebAnywhere, launched today lets blind and visually
impaired people surf the Web on the go. T he tool developed at the
University
of Washington turns screen-reading into an Internet service that reads aloud
Web text on any computer with speakers or a headphone connection.
"This is for situations where someone who's blind can't use their own
computer but still wants access to the Internet.  At a museum, at a library,
at a
public kiosk, at a friend's house, at the airport," said Richard Ladner, a
UW professor of computer science and engineering.
The free program and both audio and video demonstrations are at:
http://webanywhere.cs.washington.edu
Ladner will demonstrate the tool next week in Dallas at the National
Federation of the Blind's annual convention. WebAnywhere was developed under
Ladner's
supervision by Jeffrey Bigham, a UW doctoral student in
computer science and engineering. The research was funded by the
National Science Foundation.
Free screen readers already exist, as do sophisticated commercial
programs. But all must be installed on a machine before being used. This
is the first accessibility tool hosted on the Web, meaning it doesn't
have to be downloaded onto a computer. It processes the text on an
external server and then sends the audio file to play in the user's Web
browser.
"You don't have to install new software. So even if you go to a
heavily
locked-down computer, say at a library, you can still use it," Bigham
said.
In May, Bigham was named the winner of the Accessible Technology Award
for Interface Design for the Imagine Cup, a student programming contest
sponsored by Microsoft Corp. The prize comes with $8,000 and a trip to
Paris in early July.
For the past month WebAnywhere has been available on request. Bigham
said he's received inquiries from librarians who would like to make all
their machines accessible on a limited budget. He's also had interest
from teachers who struggle to find the time to locate free software, get
permission to install it on a school computer and then maintain the
program so that a single computer is accessible to a visually impaired
student. This software would make any computer in the lab instantly
accessible for Internet tasks. The Web-based service also eliminates the
need for local technical support: there is no software to install or
update because each time a person visits the site he or she gets the
latest version.
To test the software, researchers had people use the tool to do three
things typically done at public machines: check e-mail, look up a bus
schedule and search for a restaurant's phone number. People using
WebAnywhere were able to successfully complete all three tasks, using a
variety of machines and Internet connections.
Like other screen readers, WebAnywhere converts written text to an
electronically generated voice. So far the system works only in English.
But the source code was released a few weeks ago and a Web developer in
China has expressed interest in developing a Chinese version.
The UW team plans to create updates that will allow users to change the
speed at which the text is read aloud and add other popular features
found in existing screen readers. The service is currently hosted on a
server at the UW campus.
Bigham is also working with Benetech, a Palo Alto, Calif., technology
nonprofit that distributes free electronic books, to make its collection
of more than 30,000 books accessible to blind users without them having
to install any screen-reading software.
He believes this could be the first of many Web-based accessibility
tools.
"Traditional desktop tools such as e-mail, word processors and
spreadsheets are moving to the Web," Bigham said. "Access technology,
which currently runs only on the desktop, needs to follow suit."
Ken Pope
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] making a useable white cane?

[tunecollector]

Mike,
Yes, I bought a couple of canes from Jeff when he lived nearby in Dana Point
and then another one online when he moved to Hesperia.  I didn't know he was
getting out of business.  Below is all I have on him.
Jim

We wish to inform our customers that California Canes will only be accepting
orders
for canes or accessories for retail sales while supplies last. In the near
future
fine California Canes products and accessories will be available for retail
purchase
through our many distributors located throughout the world. California Canes
will
still honor repair warranties.
A list of distributors that carry California Canes products will be
available soon
on our web site. New products will also be posted on our web site as they
become
available.
For those who wish to become distributors for California Canes please
contact us
at
(760) 309-2606 or fax us at (760) 488-2908.
For all repair orders, please contact us at (760) 309-2606 for details.
We feel the market will be better served if retail sales are handled
exclusively
by our distributors and manufacturing with product developement and research
are
handled by California Canes, Inc.
Thank you for your years of support.
DISTRIBUTERS:
Vision Services
6811 Talmage Dr.
Little Rock, AR 72204
Phone/Fax: 501-353-1222
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WE ARE CURRENTLY CONSIDERING ALL REASONABLE OFFERS
TO PURCHASE OUR COMPANY, CALIFORNIA CANES
Please submit any bonified offers via fax to (760) 488-2908
or send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.
Please contact us for further information.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:49 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] making a useable white cane?

Hi Tunecollector,

Could you post California Canes information? I was buying my canes from him 
and his wife also, but the last I heard they moved to Palm Springs and then 
shortly after closed up shop. I haven't heard from them since. You would 
think that they would notify their customers of what is happening. If you 
have new information it would be nice to get it. Thanks much.

Mike

- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] making a useable white cane?

I buy my fairly indestructible carbon fibre canes from California Canes
which is located in Hesperia. The maker of the canes is an inventive blind
guy named Jeff.
California Canes has a website. Ask Jeff. He is a very friendly guy. I
met him a couple of times before he moved to Hesperia.
-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:44 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] making a useable white cane?

Hi, has anyone put any effort into a workable solution for making your own
folding or other type of useable white cane?
Crosses my mind every time I am about down to a mismatched bunch of broken
ones and I have to buy another, yet still, the cane distributors have to
make a living too I guess.

Matt

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] making a useable white cane?

[tunecollector]

I buy my fairly indestructible carbon fibre canes from California Canes
which is located in Hesperia.  The maker of the canes is an inventive  blind
guy named Jeff. 
California Canes has a website.  Ask Jeff.  He is a very friendly guy.  I
met him a couple of times before he moved to Hesperia.
-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:44 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] making a useable white cane?

Hi, has anyone put any effort into a workable solution for making your own
folding or other type of useable white cane?
Crosses my mind every time I am about down to a mismatched bunch of broken
ones and I have to buy another, yet still, the cane distributors have to
make a living too I guess.

Matt

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Kitchen Flooring?

[tunecollector]

It is my understanding that cork does not hold up well under heavy traffic.
I believe kitchen floors get even more foot traffic than the entrance to
one's home.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:26 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Kitchen Flooring?

Look into the new cork flooring options. They are supposed to be really good
for your feet and legs as well as good choices for kitchens. They are also
warmer both in appearance and on the bare feet than tile. I have also heard
that they are better for not breaking dishes and the like than your more
traditional harder surfaces.

Jennifer

- Original Message - 
From: Claudia 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:11 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Kitchen Flooring?

Hi All,

We're thinking about putting in a new kitchen floor. We have a sort of tile 
floor, but it's rapidly cracking, corners are breaking off, etc., and I'd 
like to know what types of flooring people put in their kitchens?
Would laminate be good or not, since it might be prone to scratching?

All suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks.

Claudia

Join either of my groups; the first is for visually-impaired women, while 
the other is for people wishing to discuss homemaking issues.
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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] stuben weeds

[tunecollector]

Put a bunch of salt in that boiling water.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Agent86b
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:35 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] stuben weeds

Hello,
we use boiling water to kill the weeds that come up in our brick
pavers. This must be done from time to time.
You don't need to use very much water.
Max.

on 09:52 24/05/2008, Dale Leavens said:

>Hi Carl,
>
>You can use a herbicide like Roundup to kill the weeds but they will
>come back. You can use something like gasoline (petrol) or oil, but
>use it at night when no one will be looking, these days it is not
>considered green. You could use a little salt to but this can damage
>your concrete and if over used will spread into the adjacent soil.
>
>Covering with black plastic for a few days will kill growing stuff
>too but that is impractical where you are walking and not any more
>attractive than the weeds.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: carl
>To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 
>Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:48 PM
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] stuben weeds
>
>i hav a wdeed problem in my back yard thay keep comeing up between
>the paving slabs and no matter what i doe i carnt keep the buggers
>down what can i doe?
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

[tunecollector]

So you would use the virtual wall to keep it from venturing to a part of a
room where there might be something fragile?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Shawn McMurdo
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:33 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

You don't use the virtual walls.
I find it works better for me to do the bedrooms separately from the great
room/kitchen/foyer.
Also regarding the charging issue that some people had with not being able
to see the light to know if it is properly charging on the base unit:
I plug it in directly and don't use the base unit.  This way I know it is
charging.
Shawn

 --==--==--
Shawn McMurdo
See my Low Vision Guide at
http://lowvisionguide.org <http://lowvisionguide.org> 

- Original Message 
From: tunecollector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net> >
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:05:47 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

So how does one get it to vacuum a home with several rooms?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:blindhandyman@ yahoogroups.
com]
On Behalf Of Shawn McMurdo
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:03 PM
To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

The virtual walls are small battery powered boxes that put out an infrared
light that the vacuum can see and won't cross.
You use them to keep the vacuum from going down the hall or into the next
room.
Shawn

--==--==--
Shawn McMurdo
See my Low Vision Guide at
http://lowvisiongui de.org <http://lowvisiongui de.org> 

- Original Message 
From: Matt mailto:themullins0 1%40sbcglobal.
net>
>
To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:blindhandym an%40yahoogroups
.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:09:35 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

Is the vutural walls thing, a matter of laying out copper wire, like I heard
about the lawnmowers which need to learn an area?
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] net 
To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

We have a two-storey house and my wife actually has two Roomas, one for each
floor. They have outstanding customer service, and the newer ones are
becoming way more blind friendly. They actually have speech on the new one
she has which instructs you as to what you need to do, as in clean brushes
or free up wheels.
The only set-up I know about would be the virtual walls to keep the thing
out of certain areas. 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

[tunecollector]

So how does one get it to vacuum a home with several rooms?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Shawn McMurdo
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:03 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

The virtual walls are small battery powered boxes that put out an infrared
light that the vacuum can see and won't cross.
You use them to keep the vacuum from going down the hall or into the next
room.
Shawn

 --==--==--
Shawn McMurdo
See my Low Vision Guide at
http://lowvisionguide.org  

- Original Message 
From: Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:09:35 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

Is the vutural walls thing, a matter of laying out copper wire, like I heard
about the lawnmowers which need to learn an area?
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] net 
To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums

We have a two-storey house and my wife actually has two Roomas, one for each
floor. They have outstanding customer service, and the newer ones are
becoming way more blind friendly. They actually have speech on the new one
she has which instructs you as to what you need to do, as in clean brushes
or free up wheels.
The only set-up I know about would be the virtual walls to keep the thing
out of certain areas. 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaners

[tunecollector]

Well, go over there and shake your booty over the food bowl.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:01 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaners

they cleaned the matress when they came to sell the curby to us.
I don't recall anything about skin cells killing dogs.
But, I'd like to have some for the next time my neighbor's dog wakes me of a
sunday or saturday morning.

Matt
- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaners

Did you get the "body ash" as part of the pitch? This is when you're told
to use the vacuum cleaner on your mattress to suck up the body ash. Body
ash? You ask. Oh yeah, the salesperson says, body ash is the stuff that
falls off your skin and sinks into the mattress. A spoonful of it will kill
a dog. 
Well, I know what that dog licks and if that didn't do it, then nothing is
going to kill him.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:29 AM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaners

Well a little about vacuum cleaners.
In no way is this meant as a sales pitch. We just purchased the most 
expensive Oreck. I did like the reviews and the fact that we had a 30 day 
home trial with them paying shipping both ways.
The specs are fantastic where it has heppa filtration in the bags and will 
trap almost everything. It has a 21 year warranty including a 21 year yearly

service check where it will be cleaned and any worn parts replaced.
My wife really likes how light it is and how well it gets the dog hair.
My daughter has a rainbow and stated that she would rather have the Oreck 
she wanted to trade but she is out of luck there.
About the rainbow, quite a few years ago I destroyed the demonstrator's 
model. Needless to say she was not happy and quickly left my home. She 
offered to let me try it. When I accidentally ran over the power cord it 
ripped the insulation off . I was not very impressed. Since then they are 
using a much heavier power cord.
When I was a kid I remember a Singer salesman bringing their powerful tank 
machine. He took the top off and told mom that the unit is so strong that it

will stick to the wall. It did for about 20 seconds before the plaster fell.

She always did want that wall replastered and the room painted, thanks 
singer.
Shortly after we were married an electrux sales man came here.When he went 
over a place where we just cleaned he wanted to show Karen how well his unit

works. He put a piece of paper on the sofa and emptied the machine so she 
could see the dirt. About 20 minutes later I sat down, can you guess where. 
The dirt was all over me and the sofa. I gave him 2 minutes to get 
everything out of my house.
A friend was a quick thinker. He had a salesman visit and the guy had my 
friend run his cleaner. He then put a white filter inside of the hose of his

machine and ran it over the same spot then showed my friend what his cleaner

missed. My friend asked the salesman if he had another filter. He took it 
and put in his hose and ran over the same area a third time. He should the 
salesman what his new machine missed. The salesman said nothing, just picked

up his equipment and left.

Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
<http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/> 
It is motivational, educational, humorous and has a lot of resources.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaners

[tunecollector]

Did you get the "body ash" as part of the pitch?  This is when you're told
to use the vacuum cleaner on your mattress to suck up the body ash.Body
ash? You ask.  Oh yeah, the salesperson says, body ash is the stuff that
falls off your skin and sinks into the mattress.  A spoonful of it will kill
a dog.  
Well, I know what that dog licks and if that didn't do it, then nothing is
going to kill him.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:29 AM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaners

Well a little about vacuum cleaners.
In no way is this meant as a sales pitch. We just purchased the most 
expensive Oreck. I did like the reviews and  the fact that we had a 30 day 
home trial with them paying shipping both ways.
The specs are fantastic where it has heppa filtration in the bags and will 
trap almost everything. It has a 21 year warranty including a 21 year yearly

service check where it will be cleaned and any worn parts replaced.
My wife really likes how light it is and how well it gets the dog hair.
My daughter has a rainbow and stated that she would rather have the Oreck 
she wanted to trade but she is out of luck there.
About the rainbow, quite a few years ago I destroyed the demonstrator's 
model. Needless to say she was not happy and quickly left my home. She 
offered to let me try it. When I accidentally ran over the power cord it 
ripped the insulation off . I was not very impressed. Since then they are 
using a much heavier power cord.
When I was a kid I remember a Singer salesman bringing their powerful tank 
machine. He took the top off and told mom that the unit is so strong that it

will stick to the wall. It did for about 20 seconds before the plaster fell.

She always did want that wall replastered and the room painted, thanks 
singer.
Shortly after we were married an electrux sales man came here.When he went 
over a place where we just cleaned he wanted to show Karen how well his unit

works. He put a piece of paper on the sofa and emptied the machine so she 
could see the dirt. About 20 minutes later I sat down, can you guess where. 
The dirt was all over me and the sofa. I gave him 2 minutes to get 
everything out of my house.
A friend was a quick thinker. He had a salesman visit and the guy had my 
friend run his cleaner. He then put a white filter inside of the hose of his

machine and ran it over the same spot then showed my friend what his cleaner

missed. My friend asked the salesman if he had another filter. He took it 
and put in his hose and ran over the same area a third time. He should the 
salesman what his new machine missed. The salesman said nothing, just picked

up his equipment and left.

Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
It is motivational, educational, humorous and has a lot of resources.




To listen to the show archives go to link
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age&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29
Or
ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/

The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
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List Members At The Following address:
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Visit the archives page at the following address
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] remote control box

[tunecollector]

Oh great, now you've started another thread with forty emails.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:57 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] remote control box

Hi folks,
This is my first posting. I don't mean to offend anyone, and I hope not to
get a storm of angry e-mails, but here goes... I get scads of blindhandyman
posts every day, more than I have time to read. It seems that this listserve
is used as a method to chat, not learn anything. I love Ray Boyce's Q&A's
because they are educational.

This message of Bob's is just an observation, and it isn't clear why anyone
would be concerned about his remote controls.

Does anyone else feel this way- that this listserve would be more effective
if all messages were relevant and each thread doesn't get 40 messages batted
back and forth like the recent "are you sure you want to be a plumber"
barrage?

With all respect,
Jeff
- Original Message - 
From: chiliblindman 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] remote control box

I keep running into remotes. I never watch or listen to anything in my
living room, yet remotes are all over everything.
I am making a box for the window next to the couch to hold all remotes.
There is a remote for the hd cablebox, tv, vcr, two dvd players and a stereo
to sort thru.
When the games are played with this tv their is another one. When my kids
move for sure, this tv is going along, or tv monitor, whatever it is
supposed to be. All I need is the stereo remote sometimes.
bob

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] artificial eye post

[tunecollector]

I have never heard of blindlikeme

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jewel Blanch
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:38 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] artificial eye post

If there was an objection from the moderators, it would have been on the
grounds that the post should have been sent to blindlikeme: not
blindhandyman.

Jewel 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] artificial eye post

[tunecollector]

I am the one who originally posted the info about the bionic eye.   I am a
little confused about the mod's response to that post. While I do understand
their stance on the subsequent responses to that post, I don't know if they
are telling me not to post such info in the future.  Please advise.
Jim

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On Behalf Of lenny McHugh
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:58 AM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] artificial eye post

Hi All,
Like David I thought that the initial post may help some on list. About 3 
years ago I signed up as a volunteer for the eye implant program.
I should have ended the subsequent posts but thought they would have a 
natural quick death.

Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
It is motivational, educational, humorous and has a lot of resources.




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Or
ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/

The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
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[BlindHandyMan] FW: [Bulk] Accessible Devices World's First True Bionic Eye

[tunecollector]

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conduit
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:36 AM
To: Accessible Devices
Subject: [Bulk] Accessible Devices World's First True Bionic Eye

This sounds very promising.  This is all we currently know about this.
World's First True Bionic Eye
Thomas Moore
Health correspondent
Updated:09:32, Monday April 21, 2008
Doctors have exclusively shown Sky News the world's first true bionic eye
that could allow the blind to see.
Breakthrough for the blind
The pea-sized video camera is small enough to fit inside the eyeball. The
camera is linked to an artificial retina that transmits moving images along
the optic nerve to brain.
It could be implanted within three to five years.
The man behind the breakthrough is Dr Mark Humayun, Professor of
ophthalmology and biomedical engineering at the Doheny Eye Institute in Los
Angeles, California.
He said: "The camera is very, very small, and very low power, so it can go
inside your eye and couple your eye movement to where the camera is.
"With the kind of missing information the brain can fill in, this field is
really blossoming.
"So in the next four to five years I hope, and we all hope, that we see
technology that's much more advanced."
The institute has already pioneered artificial vision with the company
Second Sight.
The existing Argus system has been used in clinical trials, giving
rudimentary vision to blind patients with conditions like macular
degeneration and retinitis pigmentosa.
The Argus device relies on a video camera which is built into a pair of
glasses to capture images.
These are converted into electrical signals which are transmitted wirelessly
to an implant behind the retina.
The electrodes in the implant unscramble the signal to create a crude black
and white picture, which is relayed along the optic nerve to the brain.
Linda Moorfoot is one of the few patients to be fitted with the implant. She
had been totally blind for more than a decade with the inherited condition
retinitis pigmentosa.
But she can now see a rough image of the world made up of light and dark
blocks.
She said: "When I go to the grandkids' hockey game or soccer game I can see
which direction the game is moving in. I can shoot baskets with my grandson,
and I can see my granddaughter dancing across the stage. It's wonderful."
Linda's implant has just 16 electrodes but the US surgeons last week helped
to fit an even more advanced device to British patients.
The updated model has 60 electrodes to give a clearer image.
The identities of the patients have been concealed while doctors at London's
Moorfields Eye Hospital monitor their progress.
Meanwhile in California, scientists are developing an implant with 1,000
electrodes, which should allow facial recognition.
http://news.sky.com:80/skynews/article/0,,91251-1313409,00.html?f=rss
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[BlindHandyMan] FW: [Bulk] Accessible Devices Tech Talk Presents SiRecognizer UMPC Monday

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To: Accessible Devices
Subject: [Bulk] Accessible Devices Tech Talk Presents SiRecognizer UMPC
Monday

Accessible Device From: News Wire FOR IMMEDIATE DISTRIBUTION Tek Talk
Presents An Unbelievably Comprehensive And Accessible Device Monday, April
14, 2008 The Accessible News Wire April 10, 2008, Indianapolis, Indiana USA
If you think you've heard and seen everything, you may be surprised when you
stop by the next Tek Talk training session sponsored by the Accessible
World. Here is why.

Did you know there is now a portable device that recognizes flat and solid
objects through the eyes of a digital camera! Did you know there is a
hand-held device that is a real computer with Windows XP and 60GB Hard Disk,
slightly bigger than a palm, able to recognize objects in less than ten
seconds? Did you know a device exists that can read books, magazines and
newspapers of any size and complexity up to two complete pages at a time,
text on boxes, bottles, cans, and medicines, as well as texts found on TVs
and LCD displays? Whatever the camera frames, the device reads and can
automatically adjust perspective, skew and shape of any object. It can
correct the framing of the picture through voice messages such as "move the
camera to the right", "move the camera backwards" and (in the new version
"turn the object 45 degrees to the right). It even has editing features,
voice recognition (command and dictation) and voice recording, MP3 features,
handwriting modules, bluetooth, wifi and much more. And because it has been
developed specifically for the blind, visual impaired and dyslexics, it is
completely accessible. Its name, you ask? SiRecognizer UMPC.

Don't miss the demonstration of this unique product and Larry Gassman's
interview with Marco Gregnanin, C.E.O. ITEX, Rome, Italy To ask questions
following the formal presentation.

Contact: Marco Gregnanin Web:

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Where: Tek Talk Conference Room at:

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All online interactive programs require no password, are free of charge, and
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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] What is That Furniture Called

[tunecollector]

www.theantiquesalmanac.com/furniturecalled.htm -

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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Cathy Harris
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:39 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] What is That Furniture Called

could you send the URL for his site?

Thanks.
C
- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] What is That Furniture Called

Here is the article which I did not completely forward in my previous email.

What is That Piece of Furniture Called?

by Bob Brooke

Do you sometimes get confused with furniture names? If you're a collector of
antiques,

you probably have found that the same name can often refer to several
different kinds

of furniture. If you're just starting to collect antiques, you're probably
just downright

confused.

Furniture was named in two ways: After its use or after its maker or
manufacturer.

Knowing that will help you in purchasing older pieces that may have names
that seem

strange to you today, for over time many furniture names have changed
through use

and have become part of the vernacular of English.

For instance, Lambert Hitchcock of Hitchcocksville, Connecticut, created the
first

mass-produced chair which today bears his name. The Boston rocker originated
in a

cabinetmaker's shop in Boston. The davenport, a small desk with a hinged lid
that

opens out for writing, was originally made by William Davenport. Later, a
large sofa

which sometimes converted into a bed also became known as a davenport.

In colonial days, a bed meant a featherbed or mattress. The frame was known
as a

bedstead. Mirrors were known as looking glasses. A chest with four or more
drawers

was known as a high-daddy.

One of the oddest pieces of furniture is the commode. Initially a French
chest of

drawers on legs, later called a chiffonier and moved to refer to a movable
washstand,

with basin, waste pipe, etc. to a piece of furniture containing a chamber
pot. Finally,

the name became a pseudo-intellectual name for the common toilet.

Sofa, couch, love seat, or divan-all refer to the same type of seating. Or
do they?

A couch was actually a bed, from

coucher

, the French word meaning to lie down. A settee was an elongated armchair
that accommodated

two or more people. Developed in the 17th century, it was often upholstered.

A love seat was and still is a long seat consisting of two seating cushions
and intended

to accommodate two people. Anything with more than two cushions was called a
sofa.

The sofa's origins appear to stem from the French day-bed, referring to any
type

of elongated seating, including the

chaise longue

, or "long chair," designed for resting rather than sleeping. It usually had
a raised

end. While most early sofas were upholstered, springs weren't used in them
until

the early 19th century.

An ottoman was an upholstered footstool or low bench without arms or back,
named

after the Turkish influence of the early 18th century.

Case furniture, that is furniture used for storage, came in all sorts of
forms. The

trendy armoire was originally a large mobile cupboard or wardrobe featuring
doors

and shelves for clothes storage. A German variation was known as a

kas

. A more modern version, also containing drawers, came to be called a
wardrobe.

Chests also came in many varieties. Originally a piece of squared furniture
with

drawers, it became known as a

commode

to the French. A variation used a desk, featuring a fall-front, a cylinder
front

or a tambour (roll-top) was called a bureau. A low English chest of drawers
on long

legs was known as a lowboy and later as a dressing table. By mounting a
chest of

drawers on top of it, it became a highboy, from the French

haut bois

which means "high wood."

Dining rooms had a sideboard, a table with a wide drawer at the center
flanked by

drawers or cupboards on the sides and made to be used against a dining room
wall

for storing and serving food. Sideboards began as credenzas, a serving table
with

a cupboard below the surface, in the 15th Century. In the 16th Century, an
upper,

recessed tier was added. This was also known as a "dresser," where dishes
were dressed

before serving. Today, this piece of furniture is commonly called a buffet,
based

on its use as a vehicle for self-serve dinners.

Today's china closet was originally called a

vitrine

, a cabinet with a glass door. The sides and top were often also of glass,
and it

was designed to store and display china and curios.

Lastly, to keep milk and freshly-baked pies protected from flies, simple
cupboards,

known as pie and milk safes, with doors fitted with decorative, pierced tin
panels

to let the air circulate through them, were popular from the 1820&

[BlindHandyMan] What is That Furniture Called

[tunecollector]

Here is the article which I did not completely forward in my previous email.

What is That Piece of Furniture Called?

by Bob Brooke

Do you sometimes get confused with furniture names? If you're a collector of
antiques,

you probably have found that the same name can often refer to several
different kinds

of furniture. If you're just starting to collect antiques, you're probably
just downright

confused.

Furniture was named in two ways: After its use or after its maker or
manufacturer.

Knowing that will help you in purchasing older pieces that may have names
that seem

strange to you today, for over time many furniture names have changed
through use

and have become part of the vernacular of English.

For instance, Lambert Hitchcock of Hitchcocksville, Connecticut, created the
first

mass-produced chair which today bears his name. The Boston rocker originated
in a

cabinetmaker's shop in Boston. The davenport, a small desk with a hinged lid
that

opens out for writing, was originally made by William Davenport. Later, a
large sofa

which sometimes converted into a bed also became known as a davenport.

In colonial days, a bed meant a featherbed or mattress. The frame was known
as a

bedstead. Mirrors were known as looking glasses. A chest with four or more
drawers

was known as a high-daddy.

One of the oddest pieces of furniture is the commode. Initially a French
chest of

drawers on legs, later called a chiffonier and moved to refer to a movable
washstand,

with basin, waste pipe, etc. to a piece of furniture containing a chamber
pot. Finally,

the name became a pseudo-intellectual name for the common toilet.

Sofa, couch, love seat, or divan-all refer to the same type of seating. Or
do they?

A couch was actually a bed, from

coucher

, the French word meaning to lie down. A settee was an elongated armchair
that accommodated

two or more people. Developed in the 17th century, it was often upholstered.

A love seat was and still is a long seat consisting of two seating cushions
and intended

to accommodate two people. Anything with more than two cushions was called a
sofa.

The sofa's origins appear to stem from the French day-bed, referring to any
type

of elongated seating, including the

chaise longue

, or "long chair," designed for resting rather than sleeping. It usually had
a raised

end. While most early sofas were upholstered, springs weren't used in them
until

the early 19th century.

An ottoman was an upholstered footstool or low bench without arms or back,
named

after the Turkish influence of the early 18th century.

Case furniture, that is furniture used for storage, came in all sorts of
forms. The

trendy armoire was originally a large mobile cupboard or wardrobe featuring
doors

and shelves for clothes storage. A German variation was known as a

kas

. A more modern version, also containing drawers, came to be called a
wardrobe.

Chests also came in many varieties. Originally a piece of squared furniture
with

drawers, it became known as a

commode

 to the French. A variation used a desk, featuring a fall-front, a cylinder
front

or a tambour (roll-top) was called a bureau. A low English chest of drawers
on long

legs was known as a lowboy and later as a dressing table. By mounting a
chest of

drawers on top of it, it became a highboy, from the French

haut bois

 which means "high wood."

Dining rooms had a sideboard, a table with a wide drawer at the center
flanked by

drawers or cupboards on the sides and made to be used against a dining room
wall

for storing and serving food. Sideboards began as credenzas, a serving table
with

a cupboard below the surface, in the 15th Century. In the 16th Century, an
upper,

recessed tier was added. This was also known as a "dresser," where dishes
were dressed

before serving. Today, this piece of furniture is commonly called a buffet,
based

on its use as a vehicle for self-serve dinners.

Today's china closet was originally called a

vitrine

, a cabinet with a glass door. The sides and top were often also of glass,
and it

was designed to store and display china and curios.

Lastly, to keep milk and freshly-baked pies protected from flies, simple
cupboards,

known as pie and milk safes, with doors fitted with decorative, pierced tin
panels

to let the air circulate through them, were popular from the 1820's to after
the

Civil War.

To read more articles by Bob Brooke, please

visit his Web site



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[BlindHandyMan]

[tunecollector]

Davenport  I got this from an article entitled "What Is That
Furniture Called"

cabinetmaker's shop in Boston. The davenport, a small desk with a hinged lid
that

opens out for writing, was originally made by William Davenport. Later, a
large sofa

which sometimes converted into a bed also became known as a davenport.

In colonial days, a bed meant a featherbed or mattress. The frame was known
as a

bedstead. Mirrors were known as looking glasses. A chest with four or more
drawers

was known as a high-daddy.

One of the oddest pieces of furniture is the commode. Initially a French
chest of

drawers on legs, later called a chiffonier and moved to refer to a movable
washstand,

with basin, waste pipe, etc. to a piece of furniture containing a chamber
pot. Finally,

the name became a pseudo-intellectual name for the common toilet.

Sofa, couch, love seat, or divan-all refer to the same type of seating. Or
do they?

A couch was actually a bed, from

coucher

, the French word meaning to lie down. A settee was an elongated armchair
that accommodated

two or more people. Developed in the 17th century, it was often upholstered.

A love seat was and still is a long seat consisting of two seating cushions
and intended

to accommodate two people. Anything with more than two cushions was called a
sofa.

The sofa's origins appear to stem from the French day-bed, referring to any
type

of elongated seating, including the

chaise longue

, or "long chair," designed for resting rather than sleeping. It usually had
a raised

end. While most early sofas were upholstered, springs weren't used in them
until

the early 19th century.

An ottoman was an upholstered footstool or low bench without arms or back,
named

after the Turkish influence of the early 18th century.

Case furniture, that is furniture used for storage, came in all sorts of
forms. The

trendy armoire was originally a large mobile cupboard or wardrobe featuring
doors

and shelves for clothes storage. A German variation was known as a

kas

. A more modern version, also containing drawers, came to be called a
wardrobe.

Chests also came in many varieties. Originally a piece of squared furniture
with

drawers, it became known as a

commode

 to the French. A variation used a desk, featuring a fall-front, a cylinder
front

or a tambour (roll-top) was called a bureau. A low English chest of drawers
on long

legs was known as a lowboy and later as a dressing table. By mounting a
chest of

drawers on top of it, it became a highboy, from the French



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[BlindHandyMan] terms

[tunecollector]

I hear these terms all the time and even use these terms but then I realized
that I really don't know what they mean.  What is the difference between a
sedan and a coupe?  Also, what is the difference between a davenport, sofa,
couch, and settee?



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] advice for the garden pleas foalks

[tunecollector]

Where do you live?  Do you want a perennial or an annual?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of carl
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:41 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] advice for the garden pleas foalks

i am looking for plants or flours with a nice scent firstley to make the
garden injoyable to me and 2ndley to marke my dogs grave what wud the groupe
recommend?


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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re: Bosch tankless

[tunecollector]

So, in your estimation, they are not ready for prime time yet?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of chiliblindman
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:09 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Re: Bosch tankless

The ratings are right on their web pages when you go for details 
of their items. In todays market you would think the ratings would be 
better. The ratings do get better if you go over 2 grand; but not even 
a good price for the little extra efficiency they offer. If one does 
not have very good water quality these units might not last long.



 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Bosch tankless

[tunecollector]

Where did you find those efficiency ratings?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of chiliblindman
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:58 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Bosch tankless

Lee, the other day when I was going over different brands, bosch was 
one of them. Their eff ratings were 78 to 83 percent. After checking 
as many as possible I didn't find any of their units any higher. Now 
the electric was listed at 99 percent efficiency. Rheme's where listed 
starting at 84 percent eff. Rinnai units started at 84 percent 
efficiency also. Noritz efficiencies ran 83 to 93 percent; but, I 
couldn't find out if they were gas or electric. I highest effieiency I 
found in gas for sure was 84 percent and the lowest efficiency in 
electric was 98.6 . There were many other brands also on the listing; 
but these should be bascially a good sampling.
The highest volume of any domestic units was a 13.5 gallon a 
minute unit. Most stop right around 9.2 gallon a minute production 
point. I think the reason is regulation espcially in gas units. 
Burners for that size need to go over 200,000 btu. I have heard units 
that large but never in a wall pack. If one that size was on a pivot 
and mounted ouside you could turn the flue down and lift the 
house.hahahahaha
..bob



 

[BlindHandyMan] I'm about to scream

[tunecollector]

Hey, I'm about to scream from all these I'm about to scream emails.



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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] give em an inch and

[tunecollector]

But how much surface area does that entail?  And does the water have to
reach an inch in that bucket to be called an inch of rain?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:10 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] give em an inch and

It's a highly scientific form of measuring. At the airport they have a
bucket with a float in it. The float raises and lowers on a scale that shows
how much rain has collected in the bucket during a period of rain. If
interested in making the same measurements on your own you'll have to buy
one of their very special buckets from Lowes or Walmart and use a ruler to
see how much rain ends up in your bucket...

You'll probably also need a degree in meteorology as well so you can be
wrong 80 percent of the time and people won't question you about your
accuracy... 

- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:00 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] give em an inch and

I still won't know how much rain that is. I don't think an inch of rain
constitutes a cubic inch of water per every square inch of surface. So how
do they measure an inch of rain?

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[BlindHandyMan] give em an inch and

[tunecollector]

I still won't know how much rain that is.  I don't think an inch of rain
constitutes a cubic inch of water per every square inch of surface.  So how
do they measure an inch of rain?



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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

[tunecollector]

Yeah, that's what I thought despite what the sales guy said.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:30 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

Nope, 30 foot of pipe, is 30 foot of pipe, no matter how you heat your
water.
Move the heater closer, or get point of use water heaters for the baths.
Michael


_ 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of tunecollector
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:14 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

In southern California, water is an issue too. Will the hot water from a
tankless get to the outlet faster than a tank water heater?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:58 AM
To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

The only ones I've seen have been gas powered. One safety/economy feature
that I haven't decided if I like is the minimum flow rate before it will
fire. They have or let's say some have, so we don't get out of hand here,
some have a minimum of 2.5 gallons per minute flow rate before they will
fire. I'm guessing this is so a dripping faucet won't keep the heater
running all the time. But you have to turn on a pretty good blast to reach
2.5 gallons per minute. 

I've really only seen them in a commercial setting before. I know they are
getting more popular in houses I just haven't been around any in the house
yet. 

The commercial ones I saw worked in a restaurant and were strong enough to
keep their dish washer running with water at 160 degrees F. Pretty
impressive recovery rate.

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com> com
<mailto:spiro%40netaxs.com> 
To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

Okay, in the described package, there must be a super heating system. Are 
they all electric? if not, do they use super thin, and thin walled tubing?
I can imagine the water flow for a shoer could overwhelm a unit without 
tricks up it's sleeving.
How do they work?
How about for filling a bathtub?
Would a house have one for each bathroom, and then general purposes a 
larger one?

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Ray Boyce wrote:

> Q: I'm considering replacing my old water heater with a tankless version.
> Are these things all they're cracked up to be?
>
> A: Tankless water heaters are likely the wave of the future for
residential
> hot water. It's the difference between having a "smart" water heater or a
> "dumb" one. Tankless heaters offer on-demand convenience. Because these
> heaters don't have a holding tank, water is heated on an as-needed basis,
> not heated and stored for hours like a traditional tank. This reduces
energy
> loss from sitting water and also guarantees you'll never be cold if you're
> the last one in the shower. Plus, tankless heaters are powerful, yet
> compact. Most can be wall-mounted inside or outside the home. Although
sizes
> vary, the average tankless unit is about 24 inches high, 18 inches wide
and
> 9 inches deep-significantly smaller than the traditional 40-gallon tank.
> Plus, with many tankless units you can dial in the water temperature with
a
> digital controller.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

[tunecollector]

In southern California, water is an issue too.  Will the hot water from a
tankless get to the outlet faster than a tank water heater?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:58 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

The only ones I've seen have been gas powered. One safety/economy feature
that I haven't decided if I like is the minimum flow rate before it will
fire. They have or let's say some have, so we don't get out of hand here,
some have a minimum of 2.5 gallons per minute flow rate before they will
fire. I'm guessing this is so a dripping faucet won't keep the heater
running all the time. But you have to turn on a pretty good blast to reach
2.5 gallons per minute. 

I've really only seen them in a commercial setting before. I know they are
getting more popular in houses I just haven't been around any in the house
yet. 

The commercial ones I saw worked in a restaurant and were strong enough to
keep their dish washer running with water at 160 degrees F. Pretty
impressive recovery rate.

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?

Okay, in the described package, there must be a super heating system. Are 
they all electric? if not, do they use super thin, and thin walled tubing?
I can imagine the water flow for a shoer could overwhelm a unit without 
tricks up it's sleeving.
How do they work?
How about for filling a bathtub?
Would a house have one for each bathroom, and then general purposes a 
larger one?

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Ray Boyce wrote:

> Q: I'm considering replacing my old water heater with a tankless version.
> Are these things all they're cracked up to be?
>
> A: Tankless water heaters are likely the wave of the future for
residential
> hot water. It's the difference between having a "smart" water heater or a
> "dumb" one. Tankless heaters offer on-demand convenience. Because these
> heaters don't have a holding tank, water is heated on an as-needed basis,
> not heated and stored for hours like a traditional tank. This reduces
energy
> loss from sitting water and also guarantees you'll never be cold if you're
> the last one in the shower. Plus, tankless heaters are powerful, yet
> compact. Most can be wall-mounted inside or outside the home. Although
sizes
> vary, the average tankless unit is about 24 inches high, 18 inches wide
and
> 9 inches deep-significantly smaller than the traditional 40-gallon tank.
> Plus, with many tankless units you can dial in the water temperature with
a
> digital controller.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quick Fix for Squeaky Hinge

[tunecollector]

White lithium grease is the ticket.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:01 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quick Fix for Squeaky Hinge

And I always thought wd40.
- Original Message - 
From: Ray Boyce 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Quick Fix for Squeaky Hinge

Q: Is there a quick fix for a squeaky door hinge? 

A: Here's one method that sometimes works: petroleum jelly. Start by
loosening the door hinge. To do so, keep the door closed and tap an 8d nail
into the hinge from below, driving the hinge pin upward. Work on one hinge
at a time. When the pin is out, lightly coat it in petroleum jelly-it sticks
well and won't leak out like other lubricants. Reinsert the pin, wipe of any
excess, and move on to the next problem hinge. 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] digital converter coupon

[tunecollector]

Beats me.  How fast is government work?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Otis Blue
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:10 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] digital converter coupon

Hi,

When are they sending out this coupon for these digital boxes. I filled out
for one a while ago and I haven't received anything yet. 

Otis Blue
MidWest-Merchandise
Milwaukee, WI
Ph. 414-461-8885
Fx. 414-461-8856
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:o.blue%40sbcglobal.net> 
Be sure to check out http://www.midwest-merchandise.com
<http://www.midwest-merchandise.com>  for your source of
great consumer electronics and more.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of tunecollector
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:05 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] digital converter coupon

Well, you got farther than I did. I did say sighted assistance was
advisable. Now, I guess I should have said that it was a must. I did not try
the 800 number. But if I did receive a paper form, I would still need
sighted assistance.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of rs_denis
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:46 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] digital converter coupon

I was able to fill out the form for the coupon until I got to the captia or
whatever it is called at the end. They had an audio version which I thought
was a good option. It was incomprehensible. When I tried to get it to repeat
thinking that after a few tries I could get all the stuff written down, it
changed the message each time though so it couldn't be repeated. 
I'd suggest using the toll free number on the page to order coupons. Can't
recall which tool-free area code it used, but the rest of the number was
e88-2009.
RD 



 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] digital converter coupon

[tunecollector]

Well, you got farther than I did.  I did say sighted assistance was
advisable.  Now, I guess I should have said that it was a must.  I did not
try the 800 number.  But if I did receive a paper form, I would still need
sighted assistance.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of rs_denis
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:46 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] digital converter coupon

I was able to fill out the form for the coupon until I got to the captia or 
whatever it is called at the end. They had an audio version which I thought 
was a good option. It was incomprehensible. When I tried to get it to 
repeat thinking that after a few tries I could get all the stuff written 
down, it changed the message each time though so it couldn't be repeated. 
I'd suggest using the toll free number on the page to order coupons. Can't 
recall which tool-free area code it used, but the rest of the number was 
e88-2009.
RD 



 

[BlindHandyMan] digital converter coupon

[tunecollector]

Onthemedia.org has a link to a government page where you can get a $40
coupon on a purchase of any digital converter box.  Since the boxes usually
range in price from $40 to $150, you could get a converter box for
practically free.  I looked at the form for the coupon and sighted
assistance may be advisable.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

[tunecollector]

I purchased mine from there as well.  Even though it was sent from the UK to
California, it was cheaper than where I could buy it Stateside.  However,
that was before the dollar plunged.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:35 PM
To: Handyman-Blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


I don't remember who was asking about the talking tape measure. I had a
computer crash and lostmail for the last few days. I purchased mine from:
http://www.cobolt.co.uk/  

Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
 
It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] color identifiers

[tunecollector]

I have the ColorTeller which I purchased from the manufacturer in Canada.
How accurate it is I wouldn't know for sure because I am totally blind.
However, it does announce a distinction between white and cream.  And with
some of my jeans, it says light blue while with others it says blue-green.
When I put it on my hair, it says dark brown but sometimes it says gray.
Clearly it is a piece of junk.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:39 AM
To: Handyman-Blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] color identifiers

I have been thinking about a color identifier for a few years. I am not sure
about the accuracy. Doing some searches I found price ranges from $100 -
$300. Is the more expensive ones that much better. I was also wondering if a
color identifier would help detect burn marks on wood?
Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
 
It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources.

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] vapor locked engines

[tunecollector]

As I remember, this was going from California to Detroit via Texas during
the summer around 1956 in a 1955 Buick Special.  We were stuck in some Texas
coyote crossroad called a town because the car was vapor locked.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:54 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] vapor locked engines

And don't you live near the dessert? That would get the engine hot enough. 
- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] vapor locked engines

Thanks for the explanation. It was something that happened to the family
Buick 50 years ago and I always wondered what caused it.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of clifford
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:07 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] vapor locked engines

Dear List members:
Back in the twentieth century, when I took physics, the reason given for
vapor locking was that the fuel pump would only pump a liquid, and if the
engine got too hot, and at that time the fuel pump was attached to the
engine, the liquid fuel would become a vapor when super heated and the pump
would stop working. The answer to immediate relief was to cool the fuel pump
with water or let it rest.
I am not sure, but I would think that a filter would let a vapor pass as
easily as a liquid?
Placing an electric fuel pump in the fuel tank, has eliminated vapor lock,
at least the old fashioned type.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] vapor locked engines

[tunecollector]

Thanks for the explanation.  It was something that happened to the family
Buick 50 years ago and I always wondered what caused it.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of clifford
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:07 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] vapor locked engines

Dear List members:
Back in the twentieth century, when I took physics, the reason given for
vapor locking was that the fuel pump would only pump a liquid, and if the
engine got too hot, and at that time the fuel pump was attached to the
engine, the liquid fuel would become a vapor when super heated and the pump
would stop working. The answer to immediate relief was to cool the fuel pump
with water or let it rest.
I am not sure, but I would think that a filter would let a vapor pass as
easily as a liquid?
Placing an electric fuel pump in the fuel tank, has eliminated vapor lock,
at least the old fashioned type.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] real about cars

[tunecollector]

That was roundabout my point.  

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rhonda & Steve
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:10 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] real about cars

know a fence butt i think we can find something better to do with are money
then wasting it on
this nonsense 

- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] real about cars

Let's get real here. Congress can't even mandate a decent increase in fuel
efficiency. So some governmental body is going to dictate that cars have to
be noisier for a benefit of a small number of disabled folk? I couldn't
even get this city to put in an audible signal until I got a written
petition signed by block after block of my neighbors.

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[BlindHandyMan] real about cars

[tunecollector]

Let's get real here.  Congress can't even mandate a decent increase in fuel
efficiency.  So some governmental body is going to dictate that cars have to
be noisier for a benefit of a small number of disabled folk?  I couldn't
even get this city to put in an audible signal until I got a written
petition signed by block after block of my neighbors.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] What does a radiator cap do?

[tunecollector]

So are the bubbles the cause of vapor lock?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:46 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] What does a radiator cap do?

Since we had our lesson on thermostats, here is a companion lesson. A
radiator cap has a pressure setting on it that allows the system to bleed
off pressure above that point. They have different levels beginning around 8
pounds and going on up. I'm not sure of the highest pressure on newer cars
but the average for a long time was around 15 pounds. 

The purpose for a cap isn't to close the filler neck. For each pound of
pressure on the cap, it raises the boiling point of the coolant 4 degrees.
Sorry, I grew up in the US, and I can't convert temps for you... Raising the
boiling point is necessary because once liquid boils it forms bubbles and
they don't transfer heat to help cool the engine once it gets to the
radiator. In fact enough bubbles can form a block and not let enough coolant
get through the radiator, or in the case of filling, not let you get the
entire amount of coolant into the system. 

Engines run so hot today, they average right close to the boiling point. So
without the extra pressure we'd have a melt down. 

So there is your very basic lesson in cooling systems. Feel free to add to
it and we'll all pick something else up that you may not even care about.
Laughing here! 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] ultrasonic cane?

[tunecollector]

The fact is, Tom, that you have never tested this cane out.  I have no
vested interest in this.  I don't own the cane and I am not a salesman for
the company.  But I did test it out and I did not experience what you are
criticizing.  Someone asked for info on it and I submitted it.I do not
follow the logic of the NFB.  I believe that any effort made to enhance our
situation is better than no effort at all.  
Would I buy that cane?  No, but not for the reasons you expressed.  My
personal experience has shown that sighted persons are intimidated by me if
I have a cane but find me approachable if I have a dog.  For my occupation
and for where I travel, interaction with others is important; therefore, I
take the icebreaker Black Lab.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:13 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] ultrasonic cane?

All 
the limited info on the batforblind site leads me to believe this is the
latest
implementation of Dr. Lesley Kay's ultrasonic devices which he's been 
promoting with limited success for nearly 40 years.

The real questions rremain, how much noise interference are willing to put
up
with in traveling to get information that you can't do much about.

All the garbage about seeinng like a dolphin or a bat is mumbojumbo as those
beasties have large portions of brain made just to interpret the 
ultrasonic return data and we don't.

I don't think this thing is on the cane, even Dr. Kay should know
better than that. Many of his devices were worn like glasses
and some wher hand held.

The arguments about the ultimate usefullness of such devices need to be had
after considerable experience, which I've had! and over a coffee or a beer.
not on this list.

I note AFB tried to sell some version of the Kay device for a 
couple years and it is on there latest clearance at reduced price list
thus implying nobody wants them for real.

Use your ears, that's the best idea and you can eat to recharge
batteries.

Tom



 

[BlindHandyMan] sonar cane

[tunecollector]

The website for the sonar cane is batforblind.co.nz.  The bat in the name
stands for Bay Advance Technology and they are located in Auckland, New
Zealand.  The cane costs $842 US.  We tested this cane  at CSUN.  The cane
allows you to decipher objects in three dimensions.  I don't thnk it is the
same device that Tom ranted about.



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RE: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Electrolysis

[tunecollector]

How about just reposting it instead.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:55 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Electrolysis

Lenny,

If you still have that information, could you send it to me at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
The original must have gotten hung up in my spam program.

TNX

Larry

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:13 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Electrolysis

Hi Gil,
I am glad that it helped someone else. The old tool that I had cleaned looks

like new.
It is amazing how science can do the hard work while you sit back and watch.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gil Laster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >
To: "Post to Blind Handyman" mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Electrolysis

A few weeks ago an article about using electrolysis to clean corroded metals

was posted. I was unaware that a car battery and patience could render 
terrific results.

I have a 30-year-old garden tiller with a tine hub that has been frozen onto

the power axel for over 10-years. I decided to clean up the machine and I 
was going to get that stubborn hub off. My first attempt with a 6-inch 
wheel puller broke the puller. With a new puller I then tried penetrating 
oil, hammering and heat. That did not work either. Then I tried the 
electrolysis. After 6-days of the hub/axel brewing I finally pulled it 
apart today.

Thank you for that post about electrolysis.

- Gil Laster
Charlotte, NC

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] find home

[tunecollector]

Hey, don't get me wrong.  I think it's a great idea.  

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:20 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] find home

Not only is it a beacon for me, it also makes your home more attractive
- Original Message - 
From: "tunecollector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:18 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] find home

>I like this waterfall idea much better than the air raid siren tower that I
> was contemplating.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:43 AM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] find home
>
> I don't use a guide dog. When we bought our current home I would approach
> our house from only one direction as I'd only have to count 2 driveways to
> locate our driveway. Finally I put up a good size water fountain in the
> front yard, and this is my beacon to locate my home. This save me about 
> a
> block and a half of walking.
>
>
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] find home

[tunecollector]

I like this waterfall idea much better than the air raid siren tower that I
was contemplating.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:43 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] find home

I don't use a guide dog.  When we bought our current home I would approach
 our house from only one direction as I'd only have to count 2 driveways to 
locate our driveway.  Finally I put up a good size water fountain in the 
front yard, and this is  my beacon to locate my home.  This save me about a 
block and a half of walking. 



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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane

[tunecollector]

n Feb 10, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote:

> The chick magnet thing is something that seems to go with all the 
> dogs. I used to belong to a gym and when I would sit mine at the end 
> of the bench there would always be some that had to come talk to the 
> dog and I suppose so it didn't seem rude they would talk to me as 
> well... Only problem I have with mine is if he thinks he knows where 
> I want to go I shouldn't give any more commands until we get there. 
> That is a problem if we aren't both going to the same place.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: tunecollector
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane
>
> My neighborhood has narrow streets with no sidewalks and
> everyone parks in the street rather than their driveways. My big old 
> Lab is
> great. He walks me into the middle of the street, it doesn't matter 
> what
> the traffic is doing, just avoid walking on a wet leaf. If I tell him
> "Let's go home," then he will take me to any stranger's front door. 
> Then
> there is the elusive doorway theory that he hasn't matter. He walks 
> through
> the doorway and walks me into the doorjamb. He walks past the pole and
> walks me into the pole. In eight years, he has still not figured out 
> that
> things should be wide enough for both of us. If it is wide enough 
> for him,
> then what's my problem. But he sure is a chick magnet.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
> ]
> On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:03 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane
>
> Yeah, both my German Shepherds have always foudn the house regardless
> of what route we take. I always know when I'm close cause he'll start
> to pull as hard has possible the closer we are. Just like he's saying,
> "look see I found it, I live here, ain't I am smart dog?" "now where's
> my toys?"
>
> On Feb 9, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Larry Stansifer wrote:
>
> > R.J.
> >
> > About 2 miles from where I live are several huge housing
> > developments. None
> > of the streets are strait and the ones that don't dead end into some
> > fool's
> > swimming-pool run off in minutes of angle to each other.
> > Aiden and I got hopelessly lost in that maze and after calling Carol
> > and
> > telling her not to wait dinner, I told Aiden "let's go home bit
> > boy." He
> > wondered about, sniffed about and finally laid into the harness as
> > only a
> > hungry German Shepherd can and in 45 minutes we were walking up the
> > driveway. Had I been using my cane I would have had to admit to not
> > being
> > the consumit mobility guy and yell for help.
> > Again I don't want to dis canes because I still use mine regularly 
> but
> > damn... it's nice when your dog can make you look good
> > BTW I would have walked home on my knuckles before I would let Carol
> > ask one
> > of her patrol officers to keep an eye out for me.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of RJ
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:44 PM
> > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane
> >
> > Dear Bob,
> >
> > Now what are you saying about talking to a white cane? I found
> > people will
> > call for help immediately when you are crying and talking to your
> > cane all
> > at the same time. When I had my dog, people would just say, isn't
> > that sweet
> > the way that old blind guy thinks his dog understands him. LOL RJ
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Bob Kennedy
> > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
> >
>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 16:23
> > Subject

RE: [BlindHandyMan] find home

[tunecollector]

I thought it was on this list where someone takes a phone-picture of where
he is and sends it to his wife who then tells him where he is at.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:11 PM
To: Blind Handyman
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] find home

The comment about a guide dog not finding home but every home in the block 
prompted me to post this. Incidentally my new guide Micah who I sometimes 
call clueless can't find home.
A friend recently had to retire her guide. Where she lives she has a major 
problem finding her home. She knew that she was on the correct street but a 
very long sidewalk around the development gave no clue to her home. Her 
husband purchased a wireless door bell that has a fairly long range. When 
she thinks that she is near her home the doorbell on the porch guides her 
home.
As forgetting lost I read on a list that one guy was quite ingenious. He has

a good friend who is a cab driver. Being a cab driver he is familiar with 
every part of town. When this guy gets lost he uses his camera phone to take

some pictures and emails them to the cabby. The guy then calls his friend 
and tells him where he is and how to get back. Don't know if anyone on list 
can use these ideas but it is something to ponder over.
Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
It's motivating, humorous and has a lot of resources. 



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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane

[tunecollector]

My neighborhood has narrow streets with no sidewalks and
everyone parks in the street rather than their driveways.  My big old Lab is
great.  He walks me into the middle of the street, it doesn't matter what
the traffic is doing, just avoid walking on a wet leaf.  If I tell him
"Let's go home," then he will take me to any stranger's front door.  Then
there is the elusive doorway theory that he hasn't matter.  He walks through
the doorway and walks me into the doorjamb.  He walks past the pole and
walks me into the pole.  In eight years, he has still not figured out that
things should be wide enough for both of us.  If it is wide enough for him,
then what's my problem.  But he sure is a chick magnet.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:03 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane

Yeah, both my German Shepherds have always foudn the house regardless 
of what route we take. I always know when I'm close cause he'll start 
to pull as hard has possible the closer we are. Just like he's saying, 
"look see I found it, I live here, ain't I am smart dog?" "now where's 
my toys?"

On Feb 9, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Larry Stansifer wrote:

> R.J.
>
> About 2 miles from where I live are several huge housing 
> developments. None
> of the streets are strait and the ones that don't dead end into some 
> fool's
> swimming-pool run off in minutes of angle to each other.
> Aiden and I got hopelessly lost in that maze and after calling Carol 
> and
> telling her not to wait dinner, I told Aiden "let's go home bit 
> boy." He
> wondered about, sniffed about and finally laid into the harness as 
> only a
> hungry German Shepherd can and in 45 minutes we were walking up the
> driveway. Had I been using my cane I would have had to admit to not 
> being
> the consumit mobility guy and yell for help.
> Again I don't want to dis canes because I still use mine regularly but
> damn... it's nice when your dog can make you look good
> BTW I would have walked home on my knuckles before I would let Carol 
> ask one
> of her patrol officers to keep an eye out for me.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  
> ]
> On Behalf Of RJ
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:44 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Now what are you saying about talking to a white cane? I found 
> people will
> call for help immediately when you are crying and talking to your 
> cane all
> at the same time. When I had my dog, people would just say, isn't 
> that sweet
> the way that old blind guy thinks his dog understands him. LOL RJ
> - Original Message -
> From: Bob Kennedy
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 16:23
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane
>
> I still prefer a dog. You can get lost with both but you look pretty
> stupid talking to your cane. And people are quicker to approach you 
> with a
> dog over a can of any length.
> - Original Message -
> From: Ray Boyce
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:03 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Why Use a Long Cane
>
> Why use a long cane?
>
> Safety
>
> A long cane helps the user to detect obstacles and hazards, drop-offs,
> ground level changes and stairs in the path of travel.
>
> Information
>
> A long cane provides information from the environment that assists
> orientation, such as tactual feedback. For example, the cane user can
> detect
> changes
> in surface textures between grass and concrete to follow a footpath.
>
> Confidence
>
> Many cane users experience an increase in confidence because they 
> hesitate
>
> less about the safety of the next step.
>
> Posture
>
> A long cane improves the user's posture, because they don't need to 
> feel
> the
> ground with their feet while travelling or walk with the head down to
> check
> the surface directly at their feet.
>
> Identification
>
> As most canes are coloured white with a red tip, they indicate to 
> drivers
> and other pedestrians that the cane user may be unable to see 
> objects or
> other
> people.
>
> What are the long cane techniques?
>
> As there are various cane techniques, our instructors help people with
> vision impairment to learn the right techniques based on their 
> individual
> needs,
> ability and living environment. The duration of training will vary
> depending
> on these factors, and training takes place in the person's own living
> environment.
>
> The most commonly used techniques are:
> . Diagonal technique: The can

RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

[tunecollector]

I am in San Clemente, in the republic of Southern California.  I have a
sleeping disorder and sleep only two or three hours a day.  And since I am
totally blind, my body clock is out of whack as well.  So that is why my
replies are at odd hours.
I recognize that there are problems with voice recognition.  Some equipment
I have work quite well with voice recognition while some other equipment is
as good as speaking a foreign language to a deaf mute.  Still, I feel voice
recognition for GPS is not that far off.  Not only for my purpose but for
drivers as well.  No one wants to program a GPS while driving.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:27 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

Jim,

Out of curiosity, where are you located?

I see that my message to you is stamped 6:32 a.m. It left here more like
9:32 a.m.

I am not so sure that voice recognition is quite ready. I have my house
phone number as "home" but my phone recognizes it about half of the time. I
feel somewhat silly arguing with my damn phone in the Hospital parking lot
as I leave work. It can be quicker to punch the stick a couple of times to
get the number and dial it up.

I am pretty sure WayFinder can do what I want and I am pleased about the
small size. As it is I carry a computer bag with my notebook in it, a spare
battery and power supply, usually some paperwork in the folder compartment,
keys and sundry other things in the front pocket, already my mobile phone
pouch is slung from the shoulder strap. My coat pockets are full of mitts
and a ski band to protect my ears from the cold and a tissue or two to wipe
away the dripping nose. There is a wallet and check book in the inside
pocket and when not in use my cane has to go somewhere. The computer bag
already weighs just around 15 pounds The Holux 240 GPS receiver truly is
about the size of a match box or zippo lighter for those used to such
smokers paraphernalia, very manageable. When traveling or on vacation I
usually carry what I call my purse, a small bag suitable to carry my cane,
passport, tickets and such, somehow it always seems to fill up. It is the
portability and multi-use of the phone platform I like.If I am organized
enough I can copy talking books and magazines onto memory cards which take
up all most no room and slip into the phone and don't require additional
equipment and less power supplies and chargers to carry around.

What is wanted now is concurrent applications so I can monitor a bus trip
for example while listening to a talking book.

I think I will have to investigate bluetooth hearing of some sort. I don't
think I want something in my ear but I probably need something stuck in the
collar of my parka or something so I don't have to have the phone out in the
open in the winter. Even if I can keep it in my left mitt where I can
manipulate the menu buttons and joy stick that might be better. My best
mitts are sheepskin lined with the fleece but telephone sound doesn't escape
from that well unless the volume is really high.

So, if anyone has experience of bluetooth listening without oblitterating
environmental listening I would be very interested to hear about it.

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> 
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

Thanks Dale for this info. I am still sitting on the fence on whether to
get Wayfinder or Trekker. At this time, neither has convinced that it is
the solution. I guess I am waiting for a GPS that operates by coice
recognition. Somehow, I think keying in the info is too cumbersome.
Jim

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:32 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

Hi, Sorry I just can't remember your actual name just now.

I bought WayFinder Access just before Christmas. Yesterday I figured out how
to properly input a destination and I had it walk me to work and home again.
While it knew the technical address for the hospital and even the new
corporate name but the street address is a large area and WayFinder seemed
to want to take me to the location of the old hospital several hundred yards
distant. Further, it wants to take me on a zig-zag route and not t

RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

[tunecollector]

Thanks Dale for this info.  I am still sitting on the fence on whether to
get Wayfinder or Trekker.  At this time, neither has convinced that it is
the solution.  I guess I am waiting for a GPS that operates by coice
recognition.  Somehow, I think keying in the info is too cumbersome.
Jim

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:32 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

Hi, Sorry I just can't remember your actual name just now.

I bought WayFinder Access just before Christmas. Yesterday I figured out how
to properly input a destination and I had it walk me to work and home again.
While it knew the technical address for the hospital and even the new
corporate name but the street address is a large area and WayFinder seemed
to want to take me to the location of the old hospital several hundred yards
distant. Further, it wants to take me on a zig-zag route and not the more
direct one.

Walking back from work it wants to take me a similar route. So far though it
seems to be pretty accurate. The initial estimated distance seems to me to
be a little short. When I first turn onto 6th street it tells me two hundred
metres to my final turn. About two hundred metres later it again informs me
of 200 metres to my next turn then reminds me at about a hundred metres, 50
metres, 25 metres then pretty well right on the intersection it tells me to
turn here.

It told me I had reached my destination about 3 metres short of my driveway,
pretty good really.

So far I haven't figured out how to lay down my own route and I would like
to be able to lay down a preferred route in advance of a trip. I have a
message into their assistance but so far no response.

I find the documentation to be weak. There is a lot of general detail about
what you can do but a little soft on just how to do it. I assume I can add
points of interest or give names to addresses, the name of my hardware store
or barber shop instead of a street address or to replace the names of
businesses which have disappeared.

The other thing is the cost of operation. While in Europe where GPRS is
widely available and there are several operators offering it, here only
Rogers/Fido have wide digital coverage and they charge a lot for packet data
service. It is generally a bit better in the United States. This is one
reason why Apple isn't releasing their IPhone here, another reason is that
there is already a Canadian company with rights to the term IPhone for an IP
phone device. I don't yet fully understand but it seems that WayFinder goes
to the network to calculate a route every time and if you deviate off of the
route it also goes back to the network to recalculate. I don't know why that
can't be saved on the phone these new phones can hold GIGs of memory on
card. Maybe it can, there is absolutely no reference to it in any of the
documentation I have so far been able to access.

I haven't yet really calculated the costings I think it was a bit over two
bucks on my walk to work yesterday about a 15 minute walk.

So far another problem is keying in an address. You have to turn on the GPS
receiver first and make that connection when you open WayFinder. Then you
can enter the address but the GPS receiver won't usually acquire satellite
signal until you are outdoors when you can then initiate the find and route
instructions. We haven't had 40 below yet but even at 20 below or warmer
with a wind you don't want to be trying to thumb in any addresses.

The receiver and the phone both seem to work fairly well in the breast
pocket of my parka though. I haven't discovered though if there is a way to
get the phone to repeat an instruction if you miss it for any reason.

I'll try to keep you informed as I become more capable with the unit. I did
try to subscribe to the WayFinder e-mail list but did not succeed, I'll try
to find that link again, probably other users will be more helpful. If
anyone has that subscription information I would be pleased to have it.

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> 
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

The link below is to the Wayfinder site with an update on its package and
pricing.

http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784 <http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784> 
<http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784&lang=en-US
<http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784&lang=en-US> > &lang=en-US

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[BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder update link

[tunecollector]

The link below is to the Wayfinder site with an update on its package and
pricing.

http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3784
 &lang=en-US

 



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[BlindHandyMan] a little more on robots

[tunecollector]

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[BlindHandyMan] home Jim

[tunecollector]

Like someone else on this list, I get plenty of exercise without lifting
weights.  When it gets below 63 around here, I have to reach way high to put
on my long sleeve shirt and bend way down to put on my socks.  After that
strenuous workout, I have to take a nap.  Whew!

Jim



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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms

[tunecollector]

Very nicely stated.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:06 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms

Better is a relative term.

Decide on your goals, what is your objective? Once you figure that out you
will better know what it is you need to achieve that.

For cardio vascular aerobic exercise I have a Nordic Track cross country ski
machine. It does take a little skill to get the hand of it and not everyone
likes that aspect of it but it doesn't take long to get up a good sweat and
keep it. On the other hand I don't much like those elliptical trainers, they
are like walking on the moon bobbing up and down like that but many people
really like them.

The trouble with free weights is the room they need, fortunately for me I
suppose I am short enough that I can snatch without driving them through the
ceiling but not everyone can.

None of the mechanical weight circuits accurately reflect the weight being
used. You can pin any number to the stack but most use pulleys not only to
change direction but often they loop in such a way to give mechanical
advantage, that is, pull three feet on the cable and the weight rises a foot
and a half, that sort of thing. There is also the inertia of the machine to
take into account and friction of moving parts too. Many also use cams to
try to equalize the force or direction so that the resistance is closer to
the actual direction of the work but these too alter the actual amount of
weight being moved. In that sense free weights are the only really accurate
and reliable measure of resistance. Even though you can technically
calculate and allow for mechanical disadvantage or advantage as the case may
be I can assure you having hung actual weight from a number of weight
training machines that there isn't any reliable relationship between the
weight load on the stack and the actual balancing load on the handle. this
isn't necessarily true for all units but I haven't yet met one with an
accurate relationship.

The point of those machines is to save room. If the bands on a Bowflex or
what ever else are calibrated in pounds or dirometers is not relevant. They
should probably be calibrated just as the stereo,. Just a number so you can
return to the same one dependably when you want.

It seems to me that most of us as blind people want the aerobic exercise,
the cardiopulmonary work-out. Some may ride a tandem bike but mostly we lack
that opportunity, even a brisk walk isn't really all that satisfying because
of the energy used in wayfinding and avoiding overhanging trees or parked
cars. Running a dog I suppose for some might be an option and maybe some do
that I haven't ever seen it but it is possible.There are treadmills and ski
machines and elliptical trainers and exercise cycles. Swimming if convenient
and you have access to a long enough pool for some good lengths can be a
pretty good option. I used to enjoy cross country skiing but it does require
a partner and that isn't always convenient for me, either I am busy or they
are busy and eventually it falls apart. Used to ride a tandem bike too but
the same problem. I haven't been working out in my exercise room much for a
long time, by the time I finish work and now am in the middle of a couple of
shop projects then there is snow to shovel and in the summer gardening and
grass to cut and on it goes. Hooking up with someone for a bike ride or a
ski, it just doesn't happen.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that one shouldn't get too fixated on
the weights displayed either on the pulley circuits or the band type
machines or even those hydraulic pistons. Do consider the structure of the
equipment, noise, things like size and durability. If it isn't convenient
you won't use it and if it isn't comfortable you won't use it. If it folds
up and fits under your bed that is probably where it will stay.

These are just my observations over what is now approaching 40 years of
personal experience and observation of literally thousands of others.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms

I use free weights a lot in the gym and was actually considering buying a
bench based system that includes a squott station, leg curl and quad curl
station but when I tried it out in the store it felt really flimsy and like
it wanted to come apart and that was just using the 110 LB included weight
set. Most of that stuff looks like toys to me. A couple of guys on Carol's
department have bowflexes but like the soloflex they make you look better
than you really are.

RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

[tunecollector]

I have been drinking a sixpack of Coke a day for the last forty-five years.
I still have all my teeth and my stomach is fine.  Of course, I weigh 500
pounds...

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:42 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

That stuff is rough. I had an email once on what you could do with Coke.
>From dissolving rust to dissolving a nail... Think of that next time you get
ready to drink one...
- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

Actually, I did that by accident many years back. I knocked over a bottle
of Coke into the sink and noticed later that the sink drained quicker
afterwards.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:38 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

Well, after working through the email to this point I must conclude that I
am not the only one who has experienced a problem with the lovely kitchen
sink drain. (LOL)
I have just had a thought. (yup, believe it or not) What about Coke syrup?
Coke uses it to clean their diesel engines. I would expect it to do a great
job of eating its way through any grease clog if it can clean a truck
engine. (LOL)
Cy, the Ancient Okie...

_ 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:57 PM
To: Blind Handyman
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

Long ago we had a discussion on her as to what works good in home sewer 
traps, like the ones under the kitchen sink and that main trap before 
things leafve the house. I have a feeling that someone here has not 
wiped a greasy pan out like after having cooked sausage or a burger. It 
was my turn to do the dish's today and I am positive I felt grease on 
the little dohangis that stops up the water. so besides buying liquid 
plumber what might be good for possible grease in a trap. is it baking 
soda, rock salt? any and all answers, suggestions would be appreciated. 
thanks.lee

-- 
Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have
only recaptured 116 of them?

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

[tunecollector]

Actually, I did that by accident many years back.  I knocked over a bottle
of Coke into the sink and noticed later that the sink drained quicker
afterwards.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:38 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

Well, after working through the email to this point I must conclude that I
am not the only one who has experienced a problem with the lovely kitchen
sink drain. (LOL)
I have just had a thought. (yup, believe it or not) What about Coke syrup?
Coke uses it to clean their diesel engines. I would expect it to do a great
job of eating its way through any grease clog if it can clean a truck
engine. (LOL)
Cy, the Ancient Okie...

_ 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:57 PM
To: Blind Handyman
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

Long ago we had a discussion on her as to what works good in home sewer 
traps, like the ones under the kitchen sink and that main trap before 
things leafve the house. I have a feeling that someone here has not 
wiped a greasy pan out like after having cooked sausage or a burger. It 
was my turn to do the dish's today and I am positive I felt grease on 
the little dohangis that stops up the water. so besides buying liquid 
plumber what might be good for possible grease in a trap. is it baking 
soda, rock salt? any and all answers, suggestions would be appreciated. 
thanks.lee

-- 
Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have
only recaptured 116 of them?

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters

[tunecollector]

Matt,
Do you think that you would have fared better if the tankless had been gas
rather than electric?
Jim

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:44 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters

FYI,
When we had our house built, the builder equipped it with a tankless water
heater.
We wondered about it, because it was different.
We asked around, and a woman who had lived in a different country assured us
that she loved the one she had used!
We were all excited.
It gave us extra closet room, it was modern and smart, and saved money!
Then we moved into our new house in November and the thing never worked.
A friend looked and said, oh, it's just set on a low temperature setting.
So he bumped it up.
Our Luke warm water went to freezing after that.
We called the builder, he came and looked and said, oh, you pushed the
temperature gage up.
I said, yes, we didn't like the temperature of the water, we wanted it
hotter.
He replied, well you see, if you push it up past that point, it pops
off/blows the little breakers in side the unit.
I had him remove it and put in a regular electric tank water heater after
that.
I think he screwed us some how on that deal, and many other deals having to
do with the house, but we had just had our first baby, gone through the
trauma of moving... to a town near my in-laws, to a town I never wanted to
live in, and it had all been my pregnant/emotional wife's decision/demand!
So, my head was hamburger!
None the less, the tankless water heaters were a huge let down to me,
because I truly liked the idea and wanted it to work.
And we did not appreciate the time of cold water and heating water on the
stove top in our quote, new home until they fixed the problem.
So, there's the tankless water heaters looked at from a real life experience
side.
Matt the wasteful american and I like it that way!

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[BlindHandyMan] House bill

[tunecollector]

>HOUSE RELEASES 21ST CENTURY COMMUNICATIONS AND VIDEO ACCESSIBILITY ACT FOR

>PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES

> 

>On December 21, 2007, the U.S. House of Representatives released a draft

>bill, the long-awaited "Twenty-first Century Communications and Video

>Accessibility Act." This proposal is a dramatic and comprehensive step

>forward for consumers with disabilities. It proposes to amend the

>Communications Act - the main statute that impacts the telephone and video

>programming industries - to add new consumer protections that will ensure

>people with disabilities do not get left out or left behind as telephones

>and television programming increasingly rely on digital and Internet

>Protocol (IP) technologies. The proposals will allow greater numbers of

>people with disabilities to become independent and productive members of

>society, as well as to enjoy all the new electronic gadgets and devices
that

>everyone else takes for granted.

> 

>To see the draft bill (PDF only) please go to

><
>http://markey.house.gov/docs/telecomm/draft_of_telecom_legislation.pdf
 >

>http://markey.house.gov/docs/telecomm/draft_of_telecom_legislation.pdf
 

> 

>To see a summary of the bill (Word) please go to

><
>http://markey.house.gov/docs/telecomm/summary_of_telecom_legislation.doc
 >

>http://markey.house.gov/docs/telecomm/summary_of_telecom_legislation.doc
 

> 

>Or go to  >http://markey.

> &task=view&id=3236&Item
 &task=view&id=3236&Item> 

>id=46> house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3236&Itemid=46

>and CLICK on the documents.

> 

>IMMEDIATE ACTION STEPS!!! To help pass these simple communication fixes

>that will bring communications into the 21st century for people with

>disabilities, please send letters as soon as you can to the following House

>members who are the leadership of the House Energy and Commerce Committee

>(the committee that is assigned this bill). Make sure to ask them for their

>sponsorship of the legislation:

> 

>Rep. John Dingell, (D-MI), Chairman, House Energy and Commerce Committee,

>Room 2328 Rayburn House Building, Washington, DC 20515.

>Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA), Chairman, House Subcommittee on Telecommunications

>and the Internet, Room 2125 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC

>20515.

> 

>Ranking Minority Members:

> 

>Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX), Room 2109 Rayburn House Building, Washington, DC

>20515.

> 

>Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI), Room 2322A Rayburn House Office Building,

>Washington, DC 20515.

> 

>Also send letters to your own representatives if they are members of the

>House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, whichwill review

>the bill first (This subcommittee is within the full House Committee.) You

>can see list of subcommittee members and get their addresses at

><
>http://energycommerce.house.gov/Subcommittees/telint.shtml
 >

>http://energycommerce.house.gov/Subcommittees/telint.shtml.
  Snail mail is

>preferred.

> 

>Please send copies of your letters to: COAT, c/o of AAPD, 1629 K Street NW,

>Suite 503, Washington, DC 20006, attn: J. Simpson.

> 

>Your letter could help make sure that there really is 21st century

>electronic communication for people with disabilities!

> 

>Additional Action Steps will follow! Please stay alert!

> 

>THANKS and HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!

 



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters

[tunecollector]

There is a certain distance, I think it is 60 feet, in which a tankless
water heater can effectively conduct hot water.  Can I assume that this
would be the same distance as with a regular water heater?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ray Boyce
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 12:32 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters

Hi

Try here
http://www.e-tankless.com/ <http://www.e-tankless.com/> 
- Original Message - 
From: "tunecollector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters

> Any info on electrical tankless water heaters?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> On Behalf Of Ray Boyce
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 12:10 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters
>
> Tankless water heaters have been in use all over the world for fifty 
> years,
> largely because of smaller homes and higher energy costs outside the 
> United
> States. In fact, tank water heaters are only used in the U.S. As natural 
> gas
>
> and LP prices rise (as they have for the past decade) it will cost 
> consumers
> more to heat water. Imagine cutting water heating costs by 50 to 70
> percent - think tankless water heaters.
>
> Tankless water heaters - often called "on demand" water heaters - only 
> heat
> water when needed. Tank water heaters, on the other hand, keep the water 
> hot
> all of the time and, when on standby, loose about 6 degrees an hour. Heat 
> in
>
> the form of Btu's also escapes up through the flue pipe constantly. Tank
> water
> heaters are incredibly inefficient and yet are used in the majority of
> American homes. Tank water heaters have a life expectancy of around 10
> years, depending
> on incoming water quality. Tankless water heaters, on the other hand have 
> a
> life expectancy of 20 plus years and carry a warranty on the heat 
> exchanger
> from 10 to 15 years (depending on the manufacturer).
>
> A tankless water heater can save about 70 percent of natural gas or LP
> expense a year for heating water except when the Teenage Daughter Factor
> comes into
> play - more on this later. The major differences, aside from energy 
> savings,
>
> are a gain in floor space of about 20 square feet and an endless supply of
> hot water.
>
> Tankless water heaters come equipped with the latest water heating
> technology and, as a result, sell for around one thousand dollars. The
> payback period
> will depend on how much hot water is used in the home. The more hot water
> used, the faster the payback.
>
> Tankless water heaters are a good choice for singles or small families
> simply because the demand for hot water is not as great as for a large
> family. And
> yet, a small family pays for heating water 24/7 with a tank water heater.
>
> The Teenage Daughter Factor: While it is true that tankless water heaters
> can help you realize a substantial savings in gas consumption, this may 
> not
> be
> possible in all cases. For example, if you now have a teenager (son or
> daughter) who likes to spend a lot of time in the shower - to the point of
> using
> all of the hot water in the home - you will probably use more gas than you
> presently do. This is because a tankless water heater never runs out of 
> hot
> water with the end result being that the previously 20-minute shower can 
> now
>
> run forever, or until you lay down some shower-length rules.
>
> A Closer Look
>
> In this short article we will look at gas-fired (natural gas or LP) 
> tankless
>
> water heaters that offer an endless supply of hot water for an entire
> two-bath
> home. Also available are electrically powered tankless water heaters and
> point-of-use tankless water heaters, which will not be covered here. For
> optimum
> efficiency, tankless water heaters should be centrally located in the 
> home,
> as this will reduce the time required to get hot water to a tap or faucet.
> Keep in mind that water is not heated until needed. In fact, the heater 
> will
>
> not turn on until a hot-water tap is opened. If the tankless water heater
> is located on the far end of a home, it may take a minute or two for hot
> water to begin flowing from the tap.

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters

[tunecollector]

Any info on electrical tankless water heaters?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ray Boyce
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 12:10 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Up Close with Tankless Water Heaters

Tankless water heaters have been in use all over the world for fifty years, 
largely because of smaller homes and higher energy costs outside the United
States. In fact, tank water heaters are only used in the U.S. As natural gas

and LP prices rise (as they have for the past decade) it will cost consumers
more to heat water. Imagine cutting water heating costs by 50 to 70 
percent - think tankless water heaters.

Tankless water heaters - often called "on demand" water heaters - only heat 
water when needed. Tank water heaters, on the other hand, keep the water hot
all of the time and, when on standby, loose about 6 degrees an hour. Heat in

the form of Btu's also escapes up through the flue pipe constantly. Tank 
water
heaters are incredibly inefficient and yet are used in the majority of 
American homes. Tank water heaters have a life expectancy of around 10 
years, depending
on incoming water quality. Tankless water heaters, on the other hand have a 
life expectancy of 20 plus years and carry a warranty on the heat exchanger
from 10 to 15 years (depending on the manufacturer).

A tankless water heater can save about 70 percent of natural gas or LP 
expense a year for heating water except when the Teenage Daughter Factor 
comes into
play - more on this later. The major differences, aside from energy savings,

are a gain in floor space of about 20 square feet and an endless supply of
hot water.

Tankless water heaters come equipped with the latest water heating 
technology and, as a result, sell for around one thousand dollars. The 
payback period
will depend on how much hot water is used in the home. The more hot water 
used, the faster the payback.

Tankless water heaters are a good choice for singles or small families 
simply because the demand for hot water is not as great as for a large 
family. And
yet, a small family pays for heating water 24/7 with a tank water heater.

The Teenage Daughter Factor: While it is true that tankless water heaters 
can help you realize a substantial savings in gas consumption, this may not 
be
possible in all cases. For example, if you now have a teenager (son or 
daughter) who likes to spend a lot of time in the shower - to the point of 
using
all of the hot water in the home - you will probably use more gas than you 
presently do. This is because a tankless water heater never runs out of hot
water with the end result being that the previously 20-minute shower can now

run forever, or until you lay down some shower-length rules.

A Closer Look

In this short article we will look at gas-fired (natural gas or LP) tankless

water heaters that offer an endless supply of hot water for an entire 
two-bath
home. Also available are electrically powered tankless water heaters and 
point-of-use tankless water heaters, which will not be covered here. For 
optimum
efficiency, tankless water heaters should be centrally located in the home, 
as this will reduce the time required to get hot water to a tap or faucet.
Keep in mind that water is not heated until needed. In fact, the heater will

not turn on until a hot-water tap is opened. If the tankless water heater
is located on the far end of a home, it may take a minute or two for hot 
water to begin flowing from the tap.

Tankless water heaters are controlled by a small computer and a bunch of 
sensors, which note the temperature of the incoming cold water and a number 
of
other operational factors. When a tap is opened, the computer determines the

amount of heat required to raise the temperature of the incoming water to
the desired hot-water temperature. Then the burner is electronically fired 
up - there is no pilot light - and the incoming water is heated to the 
desired
temperature as it passes through the heat exchanger. The end result is an 
endless supply of hot water. When the hot water tap is closed, the burner is
turned off and the exhaust fan turns on to vent the unit.

We will look at three of the top gas-fired tankless water heaters currently 
in use in modern American homes: the Takagi TK-2 Flash Water Heater, the 
Rinnai
Continuum and the Bosch AquaStar 250SX. All of these heaters are top of the 
line and ideal for supplying an unlimited supply of hot water for the 
average
or large home. While the Takagi and Rinnai heaters can only be purchased and

installed by a licensed installer, the Bosch AquaStar is available at home
centers and can be installed by a homeowner.

Installing a tankless water heater in new construction is easier than 
installing in a remodel. Part of the reason for this is that because 
gas-fired tankless
water heaters are capable of generating a great amount of Btu's (up to 
195,000 Btu's on start-up

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps

[tunecollector]

For that, I have used a de-greaser from the auto parts store and it worked
great.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:57 PM
To: Blind Handyman
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Home remedies-sewer traps



Long ago we had a discussion on her as to what works good in home sewer 
traps, like the ones under the kitchen sink and that main trap before 
things leafve the house. I have a feeling that someone here has not 
wiped a greasy pan out like after having cooked sausage or a burger. It 
was my turn to do the dish's today and I am positive I felt grease on 
the little dohangis that stops up the water. so besides buying liquid 
plumber what might be good for possible grease in a trap. is it baking 
soda, rock salt? any and all answers, suggestions would be appreciated. 
thanks.lee

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[BlindHandyMan] Totally off topic

[tunecollector]

Dale,
What is boxing day?
Jim

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 7:51 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

We generally get a couple or three weeks of 40 below in February although I
don't think it hit that once last winter.

As a kid in Kirkland Lake just an hour and a half south of here I well
remember walking to school at 60 and 65 below there were no school busses in
those days. Now they take the school busses off if it gets below 38 below.
The town used to put a second bus on the municipal service but the doors
would freeze open so it was actually preferable to walk.

They didn't put computers in cars then , there weren't really computers,
many wouldn't start. Dad's old 55 Dodge Custom Royal always seemed to start
and the chap across the street had one of the early VW Beetles which always
seemed to start albeit with clouds of smoke. He used to have to bring out
kettles of hot water though to get the wheels to turn and if we were lucky
he'd give us a ride. No heaters in those cars, I imagine it was a bit like
climbing into a coffin, have never done that so don't really know.

The good news was that Dad would pick us up on his way home from the mine in
the evening.

I have only seen it get down to fifty below once when I was up here in about
1977 or so. This time since 1989 I don't think we have had below about 45
below. Seems to me we have been observing some form of global warming for
about 45 years already.

This winter though is shaping up to be a bit more severe. At least we will
have good high banks for our boxing day road hockey tournament. Last
Christmas we were playing on pretty well bare pavement.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Kennedy 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

Coldest for me was 40 below zero in a town called Old Forge New York. I
owned a Polaris dealership way back when and we rented trucks. 6 of my
friend/customers and I loaded snow mobiles in the truck and went for a
weekend. The driveway was about a quarter mile long and when I got to the
end I shut my sled off and walked back to the house. I volunteered to keep
the fire going...
- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

I cannot fathom that. The coldest that I have experienced was 19 degrees
and that, by the way, was in the desert.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:03 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

It is just on 6 p.m. I just walked home from work, and Janet put down a
plate of roast beef in front of me.

It is minus 22C which is close on 6F below. I don't know how cold they are
expecting tonight but it is clear out there so probably pretty cold.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net>  <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> 
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: bruce 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

oh but tonight it is going down to 10 farenheight.

Bruce

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

[tunecollector]

I cannot fathom that.  The coldest that I have experienced was 19 degrees
and that, by the way, was in the desert.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:03 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

It is just on 6 p.m. I just walked home from work, and Janet put down a
plate of roast beef in front of me.

It is minus 22C which is close on 6F below. I don't know how cold they are
expecting tonight but it is clear out there so probably pretty cold.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: bruce 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

oh but tonight it is going down to 10 farenheight.

Bruce

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

[tunecollector]

Even my freezer doesn't get down to 19

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of bruce
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:26 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

oh my I feel so sorry for you ha ha ha it is 19 and a wind over 50 miles an 
hour so maybe you should come to new jersey and visit for a while.

Bruce

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

[tunecollector]

y Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

This will require a free membership to VIP Conduit just so you know. I point
this out because the guy who does that for us needs some time to process all
new requests, so if you are planning to join up for Sunday apply like now so
he can handle the load. 

David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:59 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way
Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

Since ther was extensive debate on this a couple of weeks ago, I thought
someone on this list may be interested in this.

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:15 PM
To: Accessible Devices
Subject: Accessible Devices Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

Handy Tech will be with us this Sunday at 2:00 PM Eastern to demonstrate the
Way Finder GPS software. This software allows you to use GPS with your
Symbian phone.Be sure to be with us to learn about it.
Parker, Randy and Terry
www.vipconduit.com
and
www.accessible-devices.com

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[BlindHandyMan] aHey, I want sympathy too

[tunecollector]

Here, in San Clemente, it only got to 63 during the day and at night it
plunge all the way down to 45 degrees.  B!  I had to take off my sandals
and put on socks.



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RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

[tunecollector]

I would like to see the same as well.


-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:16 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible
Devices Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

Just wondering if anyone recorded this programme and could make it
available?

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices
Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

This will require a free membership to VIP Conduit just so you know. I point
this out because the guy who does that for us needs some time to process all
new requests, so if you are planning to join up for Sunday apply like now so
he can handle the load. 

David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:59 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way
Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

Since ther was extensive debate on this a couple of weeks ago, I thought
someone on this list may be interested in this.

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:15 PM
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Subject: Accessible Devices Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

Handy Tech will be with us this Sunday at 2:00 PM Eastern to demonstrate the
Way Finder GPS software. This software allows you to use GPS with your
Symbian phone.Be sure to be with us to learn about it.
Parker, Randy and Terry
www.vipconduit.com
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] guide robots

[tunecollector]

I wanted to know something more basic than that.  How would these things get
up stairs?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:26 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] guide robots

Dan has many good points as to why this kind of device is much
farther off than the writer thinks.

We at Smith-Kettlewell have been working on parts of this kind of
thing for years mostly using computer vision techniques.

The successes, too put it mildly have been lacking.

With all the power of a modern fast laptop and a
very clever algorythm, a computerized vision system takes 15 to
thirty seconds to tell if there is a print sign in a still photo
containing a clearly visible sign.

A recent test in which I participated as a subject was of a
system to try to find a cross walk at an intersection. This was
looking for the kind of cross walk with large crosswise stripes,
not just parallel edge lines.

The test was a complete failure, the thing was neither consistant
or accurate.

computers, no matter with what kinds of sensors, just don't do
well loking at the real world. They only do well dealing with
carefully devised set of specific circumstances from which they
must choose.

The one area that seems to be the exception to this conclusion is
speech recognition, that seems to be getting pretty darned good.

It would be very interesting to know, in the robotic car
challenge, just how many of the obstacles that faced the cars
were defined in the protocol and how many things were completely
unexpected.

How many pedestrians jumpped out in front of those babies when
they shouldn't have.

How many cars were where they shouldn't have been etc.

To summarize, I've heard this line of 'reasoning' for over 40
years now and I am not impressed with it.

It's a very long way off of reality

I remember a science fiction story from many years ago wherein
they had little such helpers that sat on your shoulder.

They helped you keep your schedules, did your phone calling etc.

Pretty soon somebody got the idea to have them hooked into your
blood stream to deliver appropriate psycho active medications in
case you got too excited, too rebelious, too sleepy etc.

If you dcan't see the ending of that one, you're too optomistic!


Not holding my breath.

Tom Fowle
Smith-Kettlewell Rehab Engineering Research Center

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[BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

[tunecollector]

Since ther was extensive debate on this a couple of weeks ago, I thought
someone on this list may be interested in this.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Parker at Vip
conduit
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:15 PM
To: Accessible Devices
Subject: Accessible Devices Way Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday

Handy Tech will be with us this Sunday at 2:00 PM Eastern to demonstrate the
Way Finder GPS software.  This software allows you to use GPS with your
Symbian phone.Be sure to be with us to learn about it.
Parker, Randy and Terry
www.vipconduit.com
and
www.accessible-devices.com

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaner scents

[tunecollector]

Should've told her WD-40

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On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Handyman-Blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] vacuum cleaner scents

A while back my wife read a tip on vacuum cleaner scents. Now behind the
last filter she puts three cotton balls with a few drops of lavender oil to
make a pleasant smell in the room while vacuuming.
I particularly do not like the smell of lavender so I tried to talk her into
using a few drops of Minwax stain a smell that I like. Needless to say it
didn't go over very well.
Speaking of scents for the car guys, I really miss the smell of the old
leaded gas. Do you agree?
Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
 

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[BlindHandyMan] FW: Accessible Devices Low Cost GPS Option

[tunecollector]

I think we may have gone through all of this info but in case we didn't:


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Parker at Vip
conduit
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:32 AM
To: Accessible Devices
Subject: Accessible Devices Low Cost GPS Option

We're passing this on as some of you may be interested.  We don't have any
additional information.
From:
David Greenwood
To:
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: GPS software
If anyone is looking for a cheap, or if you have a smart phone, a very cheap
GPS solution, you should look at Loadstone-GPS.com.
I am relatively new to the list so this may have been mentioned before. I
just discovered the software and so I was amazed I hadn't heard of it until
lately. Loadstone is free, but you will need a Symbian-60 cell phone, and a
small Bluetooth GPS receiver. I picked up a new Holux M1000 receiver for
$29 on EBay and I already had a Nokia 6682 cell phone, and so I now have a
GPS solution which does 95% of what I need a GPS solution to do for me for
$29. The web site is:
http://www.loadstone-gps.com
I've only been using it for a couple of weeks and so I am not an expert in
it, but it seems to be pretty easy to use.
I forgot. You will need Nuance Talks or Mobile Speak from Code Factory
installed on your phone as well.

David.
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[tunecollector]

Has does the Wayfinder announce the directions?  Via the phone?  Does this
mean that you use up your minutes?



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder information.

[tunecollector]

I think I am getting smaller.  To use Wayfarer, it appears I must first get an 
accessible mobile phone.  I am probably the only person outside of a Bantu 
tribe who doesn't have a cell phone.  I think my grandchildren were born 
holding cell phones.  So now, any ideas on an accessible cell phone?

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Leavens
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:40 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder information.

Below is what I have lifted from the talknav Web site.

Wayfinder Access

Wayfinder Access

A navigator that facilitates the everyday life of the visually impaired.

When using Wayfinder Access navigation software, a wireless GPS receiver and a 
symbian enabled mobile phone we can bring you full freedom without the expense
of a bulky package. PDA's are a very good business tool, however whilst walking 
or traveling you need something much more convenient that can be carried
in your pocket. The mobile phone has become something we have all built our 
lives around and is the one item you would never leave home without, so why
not leave your note taker behind and appear more natural, but at the same time 
be able to plan routes and know exactly where you are?

Wayfinder, one of the Worlds most prominent satellite navigation software 
solution providers have partnered with the visually impaired community to 
produce
Wayfinder Access. The worlds first bespoke navigation solution built 
specifically with the user group in mind, but importantly that works on a 
mobile phone
and not a PDA. It boasts many impressive features primarily though the fact 
that it has been designed for the community user group in mind is though by
far its biggest asset.

Wayfinder Access comprises all the features that you would expect from a 
leading GPS software package, with a North American or European version 
currently
available. The price stated on this site entitles the user to one license for 
either version. For those who travel frequently between both license regions,
for a smaller fee a user can purchase additional map access to enable them to 
travel even further with just one license.

Wayfinder Access Features:

A where am I feature:

At the press of a button whether you are in route mode or simply walking about 
Wayfinder Access can give you specific information about the local environment.
This is as with other products such as Trekker 3. The types of information that 
you can receive is dependant on the vicinity view that you are using, see
below for more details on the various vicinity views available. In general 
though you’ll be able to find out what street you are on and other such useful
details.

Viewing routes in advance:

With Wayfinder Access as with Wayfinder Navigator users can plan, prepare and 
view a route in advance prior to taking that journey. This is very useful
to get an idea of where you are going and the various places of interest on 
that given journey.

20,000,000 points of interest (POI):

Wayfinder Access has an expanded database of points of interest, increased from 
Navigators 3,000,000 to 20,000,000; this means that you have a much greater
chance of finding just what you are looking for without having to know the 
specific address.
The point of interest feature is also highly useful when in an unfamiliar 
location, for example find out your nearest restaurant, or find a museum or 
hotel
when you are away from home. So many more useful and diverse applications exist 
for this feature we cant possibly list them all.

A What is in my vicinity option, telling you local Pois and other useful 
information:

This option is perfect for when you are out and about for example travelling on 
a train, no route needs to be planned in advance and you can simply have
your phone announce to you points of interest as they come into a given range. 
See below for more details on the vicinity views available when using Wayfinder
Access.

A pedestrian and vehicle navigation option:

Wayfinder Access can be used in both pedestrian mode for when you wish to walk 
about with your phone in your pocket, but can also be transferred back into
vehicle mode for when a friend takes you out in their car etc., a major plus if 
the person doing the driving doesn’t know where they are going and doesn’t
have a satellite navigation system. Or of course make sure that your taxi 
driver is genuinely taking you the quickest route!

An increased benefit with Wayfinder Access is that when passenger car is 
selected as the method of transportation, Access reverts back automatically to
Wayfinder Navigator. Whilst it works still fully with Talks this gives the 
added benefit of speed camera warnings updated free of charge and that the 
traditional
Wayfinder classic female voice for audio direction prompting will be heard. 
Additional services include traffic avoidance features from Traffic Master
Etc.

NOTE:

RE: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

[tunecollector]

So who makes Wayfarer?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:55 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

Hi Lenny,

Wayfinder does the same only it gets updates from the internet through the
cell phone connection. There is a mode for navigating in an automobile as
well as on foot. My phone does Web, e-mail though I haven't yet figured that
out, I play my Woodworking for the Blind magazines on it and could play
music, there is a voice recorder, a note taker and I have a bluetooth
keyboard about the size of a pack of cigarettes when folded up, there is a
calculator and Adobe reader, Excel and a Word document reader and I am not
sure what all else and it fits in my shirt pocket. I don't know yet how well
I will be able to manipulate some of the controls once we get into real
winter conditions, there was four or five inches of snow on the ground when
I left this morning but I expect it will be pretty well gone by the morning.

The GPS software is about $400 and the recommended matchbox sized bluetooth
GPS receiver something like a hundred and fifty of course on top of the
phone and talking software.

So far though I don't know anyone using the system here in North America. I
did experience the standard version in a taxi in England this spring and I
was very impressed. Apparently it covers most of Europe very completely and
in England at least even includes the location of speed traps and cameras.
The British version has 20 million POIs (points of interest). I rather doubt
there is particularly detailed information for more remote locations like
this and we also have some holes in our cellular service which apparently
can cause it some confusion when attempting to recalculate a route if you
leave off of the originally plotted one. I am trying to discover if you can
resolve this by having adjoining maps pre-loaded but don't think I have been
able to describe what it means to have holes in cell service, people don't
seem to believe the entire globe is not dotted with towers.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> 
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

Dale, I am not sure about way finder. One nice feature that trekker has is 
the ability to map out a course either pedestrian or mobile. A few months 
ago I wanted to visit a friends parents to drop off something. All I had was

the address. I was in the car and not near a computer to get a map. I just 
entered the address and we had turn by turn instructions right to the door. 
When walking down the street I learned about a Mac machine that I did not 
know existed. Trekker told me about it as I passed. Also with Trekker you 
can search for a point of interest and then create a talking map to it. Also

you can create a poi like my dentist office with some instructions how to 
get into the office. If you have the maestro option you can take notes, read

books or listen to music.
I had no desire to do that however if I were still working I definitely 
would have that option. These are a few highlights.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dleavens%40puc.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

Hi,

What does it do better than say Wayfinder Access on a mobile phone?

I don't yet have it but it sure looks very capable and is so much smaller 
and more portable.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> 
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: William Stephan
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

Right now anyway, Trekker with Maistro has all the rest beat hands down in
my opinion considering price, ease of use etc. It's also possible to get
free training from Leader Dog on one of these, even if you don't work a 
dog.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of tunecollector
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:02 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

This is probably off topic but I don't know who else to ask. Can anyone
recommend an accessibl

RE: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

[tunecollector]

So you have email and internet capabilities but not phone capabilities?  How
easy it to put in an address as you are walking?  It seems like you would
have to put the keyboard on some flat surface to key in the address.I have
to admit that a price of 1600 bux is making me start to hyperventilate.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of William Stephan
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:08 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

You can do either telephone or braille input, or you can use a qwerty
bluetooth keyboard for inputs. There is a motorized mode, and you can do
e-mail and sync with Outlook as well.

Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan

-Original Message-
From: "tunecollector"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net> >
Sent: 10/29/07 1:38:04 PM
To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
"mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

I assume Trekker is not voice recognition. Is the keypad telephone-style or
qwerty? What's the cost? Could I use it for driving?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:45 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

I am very happy with Trekker. Even in familiar territory it saved me from 
getting lost with my new guide dog. Micah drifted a little too far to the 
left when crossing a street. When I got on the sidewalk we again turned 
slightly left and all of a sudden trekker told me that I was on 20th St. 
Knowing that I was to be on Market St. I immediately turned around and went 
back about 25 feet to get on course. The drift and turn that Micah made were

so subtle that I did not pick up on them as a course change. I actually just

thought he took me around a parked car.
- Original Message - 
From: "tunecollector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:02 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

This is probably off topic but I don't know who else to ask. Can anyone
recommend an accessible GPS product.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

[tunecollector]

I assume Trekker is not voice recognition.  Is the keypad telephone-style or
qwerty?  What's the cost?  Could I use it for driving?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:45 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

I am very happy with Trekker. Even in familiar territory it saved me from 
getting lost with my new guide dog. Micah drifted a little too far to the 
left when crossing a street. When I got on the sidewalk we again turned 
slightly left and all of a sudden trekker told me that I was on 20th St. 
Knowing that I was to be on Market St. I immediately turned around and went 
back about 25 feet to get on course. The drift and turn that Micah made were

so subtle that I did not pick up on them as a course change. I actually just

thought he took me around a parked car.
- Original Message - 
From: "tunecollector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:02 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] GPS

This is probably off topic but I don't know who else to ask. Can anyone
recommend an accessible GPS product.

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[BlindHandyMan] GPS

[tunecollector]

This is probably off topic but I don't know who else to ask.  Can anyone
recommend an accessible GPS product.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] choosing a alarm system for your home

[tunecollector]

Ripping off the keypad usually won't shut off the alarm.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Obregon, Phil
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:12 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] choosing a alarm system for your home

Hi Lee,
Be sure to find out the response time of the monitoring company. I had a
system that would give you 2 minutes to shut off your system after the
alarm is set off. I found this to be extremely disconcerting because it
won't take a burglar more than a minute to just rip the alarm and it's
wiring off the wall. 

My current alarm system alerts the monitoring company faster than I can
punch in the shut off code. This leads to more false alarms, but I feel
like the system is now doing it's job.

Another feature of this new system that I really like is that it offers
2 way communication with the monitoring company directly through the
alarm system. No more having to wait for them to call back after the
alarm is set off. With in seconds the monitoring company is asking if
there is a problem and if I don't give them the correct responses,
(including a secret password), they alert the police of a burglary in
progress. With this feature the monitoring company can also listen to
any activity going on in the house when the alarm is set off. I don't
think a burglar will stick around very long knowing that they are being
questioned by a live person.

Phill

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:27 AM
To: Blind Handyman
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] choosing a alarm system for your home

For those of you who have alarm systems on your home I would appreciate
it if you would share what you considered when choosing the alarm
company you have. Also , would you want to make any changes. I have had
one company here and I think he was upset as I told him I want to
consider a few options. For instance when I told him part of the system
I want is for an alarm for my outside enteryway or bilco doors. He
suggested I just cover that by having a motion dector cover the door
which opens into a hallway on the main floor.. my problem with that is
if someone left the bilco doors unlocked , then someone could roam the
basement and who would know ? Lee

--
What we anticipate seldom occurs; what we least expect generally
happens.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] removing carpet

[tunecollector]

Hey, it's not like they said that they didn't own any rugs.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:58 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] removing carpet

You'll be having your kids wear knee pads all day?
Only plastic dishes right?
Unless new concrete isn't as hard as what I remember, man that is gonna be 
*hard living.
No kidding, Best of luck.
They have be down with adhesive, you're not going to hurt the concrete,.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Jennifer Jackson wrote:

> Hey Guys,
>
> We have carpet that has been layer on the concrete. How do I get up, the
carpet tack strips that they use to hold the carpet? I do not want to damage
the concrete as the plan is to stain it and use it as the flooring for a few
years.
>
>
> Jennifer
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


 

[BlindHandyMan] clear ice

[tunecollector]

Not that I can tell now but I wondered how restaurants and bars get their
ice so clear while the cubes out of my freezer are so cloudy.I had tried
various experiments to obtain clear ice cubes but, alas, no luck.  How do
they make that ice so clear?



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Palm nailer.

[tunecollector]

If it dings up the wood like you say, why bother with a finishing nail head?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:47 AM
To: BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Palm nailer.

OK, so I am a tool junky. I can't help myself. I was at Lowes the other 
evening and I picked up a neumatic palm nailer. This is going to be a 
handy gadget, but they all are, aren't they?

It looks vaguely like a chemistry flask, kind of conical with a stem / 
neck at the top. It is pretty hefty, but fits in your hand pretty easily.

I was surprised, but there was very little in the instruction manual on 
how it actually worked. I was pretty scared of it so approached my first 
experiment with care. I tapped a couple of nails into a board with a 
regular, old fashioned, hammer, how quaint. Just enough to hold them up. 
I then eased the neck of the palm nailer over the head of the nail. I 
gently slid it further down until the head of the nail rested against the 
piston inside. I then slowly added pressure. There was a sharp pop. I 
pulled the palm nailer back and checked out the nail. It was definitely a 
bit further into the wood.

I repeated the process and this time I held the pressure for a bit longer 
and heard several loud pops. The nail was going down fast. I again slid 
the neck of the nailer over the head of the nail and pushed down. Several 
more pops and the nail was driven into the board.

I approached the next nail and in one rapid fire, machine gun like, series 
of loud pops, drove the nail straight into the board. No muss no fuss.

You would have to be pretty careful when using this on finishing nails, 
but it does come with a finishing nail head. I was driving 3 inch nails 
into a chunk of 4X4 and it did ding up the 4X4 pretty noticeably.

I am quickly gathering a number of neumatic tools. Guess I will next have 
to bury a 100 gallon high pressure tank in the yard with a kick-ass 
compressor. *GRIN*

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Tel: (412) 268-9081


 

[BlindHandyMan] Heat pump or heater?

[tunecollector]

OK, I live on the beach in southern California.  I can count on one hand how
many times in a year the temp drops below 40F.  On the other hand, I can
count how many days go above 80F.  I don't have AC and I had put on a floor
fan maybe a dozen times in the last five years.  Here, we pay the second
highest utility rates in the US.I think Hawaii comes in first.  Would I
really get any utility savings by getting a heat pump as opposed to my
present gas heater?  Would I need the electric strips to supplement the heat
pump?  Now, keep in mind, that after a couple of decades of living on this
coast, I have turned into a total wimp when it comes to temperature.  Below
55F and I turn blue and above 80F, I star t fanning myself to prevent
fainting.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] What Do You Want Information ON?

[tunecollector]

So Dan, are you saying comparing electric to electric, that the heat is more
expensive to run than an electric heater?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:32 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] What Do You Want Information ON?

Do you want to know if a heat pump is more energy efficient, or cheaper 
than gas? Those are different questions. If you want to know if it is 
cheaper, a big part of that would be based on how much do you pay per KW 
of electricity, and MCF of gas.

Max, so KW for KW would a heat pump use less energy to heat a home than 
just straight electric heat? With electric heat, nearly 100% of the 
energy is going into heat. With a heat pump, you are having to spend 
energy on compressors and such just to drive the system.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Tel: (412) 268-9081


 

[BlindHandyMan] tankless redux

[tunecollector]

I know the tankless water heater was discussed here a few months ago but was
there any consensus?  I basically understand how they work and I can see how
they can be energy efficient.  Is the tankless water heater harmful to
pipes?  Is electric better than gas?  Was there a brand that was
recommended?



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] What Do You Want Information ON?

[tunecollector]

So is a heat pump more energy efficient than, say, a gas heater?In mild
southern California, am I better off getting a heat pump?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Boyce, Ray
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:47 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] What Do You Want Information ON?

Hi Jewel
How a Heat Pump Works

Heat pumps transfer heat from one place to another--providing both
heating and cooling. They work on the fundamental principle that heat
exists in air even
at extremely low temperatures--down to -460 degrees F. In the winter, a
heat pump extracts heat from outside air and delivers it indoors. To
cool a house
on hot summer days, it works in reverse, extracting heat from room air
and pumping it outdoors. The process is a bit technical, but here's a
brief look
at how they work:

Air-source heat pumps. The most common type of heat pump is an
"air-source" system. "Split" air-source systems have an outdoor unit
which includes a compressor,
outdoor coil, fan and reversing valve. That unit is connected with
refrigerant-filled tubing to an indoor component. The indoor unit
contains a fan, indoor
coil and a supplemental resistance heating element. "Package" systems
combine both components in a single unit that's typically placed on the
roof.

Depending on whether the heat pump is in a cooling or heating mode, the
refrigerant moving through the system makes the indoor coils either hot
or cold.
A blower draws room air in through a filter and pulls it across the
indoor coil. An optional electric-resistance heating element can kick on
when needed
to supplement heat. As the air passes by the coils, it either gathers or
gives off heat-- depending on whether the coils are hot or cold. Warm or
cool
air travels through ductwork and registers into your rooms.

Heat pumps give off less heat at one time than a conventional gas
furnace. This means they offer a mellower type of heat, stay on longer
and circulate more
air throughout the house. They're controlled by the same type of
thermostat used for forced-air systems.

On really cold days a heat pump must work especially hard to collect
heat-- that's when the supplemental heater switches on to boost warmth.

Some heat pumps can heat your water, too. The Hydrotech 2000 Heat Pump
by Carrier is a system that utilizes the warm air that a heat pump gives
off to help
heat your water. Adding to its performance is a built-in microprocessor
that varies fan speeds and output depending on need. This greatly
improves a heat
pump's efficiency.

New thermal storage units even store heat and cold, collecting it during
non-peak hours for peak-hour use. The Phoenix THP/3 stores both heat and
cool in
a large insulated water tank. It also supplements hot-water heat.

Ground-source and water-source heat pumps. Not all heat pumps extract
heat from the air. Ground-source and ground-water source heat pumps
circulate water
mixed with antifreeze through a system of buried tubing to gather heat
from the earth or ground water, which is much more consistent in
temperature than
air. Below-ground temperatures are normally warmer than outside air in
the winter and cooler than the air in summer.

The ground-source system employs a closed loop of tubing that is buried
below the frost line; the water-antifreeze mixture circulates through
the tubing,
gathering heat from the earth. A ground-water system typically involves
pumping water from one well, transferring its heat to your house, then
returning
the water to another well.

WaterFurnace, from WaterFurnace International can be set up either as a
ground-source, closed system or an open-loop ground-water system. It
uses half the
electricity of ordinary heat pumps. Though the pump is about the same
price as most heat pumps, the excavation and the ground loop of piping
can be quite
expensive-- $2000 or more.



From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

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 ] On Behalf Of Jewel Blanch
Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 11:40
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] What Do You Want Information ON?

Ray! In your "How do they work?" articles, has there been one on heat
pumps? There was a rather dubious mention of them in an article re
electricity usage, but I do not recall one on exactly how they work!

Jewel

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] info needed

[tunecollector]

And what brand and model is that someone on the list very satisfied with?

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 12:43 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] info needed


question is probably answered but someone on this list is very 
satisfied with their robot lawn mower. Lee

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] info needed

[tunecollector]

It is my understanding that the boundaries, at least for the RoboMower, are
established by installing wires in the perimeter of the lawn.  The RoboMower
lists for $499.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 6:19 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] info needed

When I moved from Wheaton, IL. to Superior, WI. I had considered buying a
robotic lawn mower. What I learned then (three years ago) was that these
lawn mowers do not mow in nice straight rows but rather use a random pattern
similar to how those toy battery powered cars from our childhood used to
operate; they'd go in a straight line until bumping into an obstacle and
then change course. These lawn mowers operate with the idea that eventually
every blade of grass will get it's turn getting cut, but there's no
guarantee. And then you have to be sure to have some sort of "bumpable
boundary" on your property line. And if you have flower or vegetable
gardens there better be something to keep the mower out - never mind Peter
Rabbit! (smile)

Another consideration is how to avoid the mower to cause damage to walls,
etc. I'd imagine that after the ten thousandth hit by the mower a bit of
siding might get a bit worn.

But, I think this would be a far more economical option than hiring someone.
The mowers I was looking at cost about $700 -- I've paid far more than that
at $25 a week for the past three years. And then the person I hire isn't
always so reliable.

Bill Gallik
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building."
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[BlindHandyMan] info needed

[tunecollector]

I think we had a discussion on this.  Does anyone know how good robot
lawnmowers are?



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[BlindHandyMan] please resend

[tunecollector]

I inadvertently deleted the instructions for the talking tape measure.  Can
someone repost this for me?



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

[tunecollector]

I bought mine online about a year ago from Cobolt.  It was quite easy and
the shipping from the UK to California was fast.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:48 PM
To: BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

Doing a little research on the topic of talking tape measures.

The one from Cobolt Systems is currently selling on their site for #39.95 
Pounds or at a current rate of $2.04 per Pound, $81.49

Blind Mice Mart has it for $99.29

I only saw one indication of the double A battery talking tape measure and 
I think it was selling for $119.00

If anyone has any other info, let's hear what you got.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
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[BlindHandyMan] tar

[tunecollector]

Back in my college, I worked for one summer as a roofer.  If hot tar landed
on us, we had to wait for it to cool off before we could remove it from our
flesh.  Tar on our clothing stayed on our clothing even after repeated
washing.  We did wash in cold water and did not use the dryer.  If tar
landed on a car, we would leave ice on it and then pry it off.  If we
tracked tar into the house onto the carpet, we would put ice on it and it
came up.  Ice on a carpet will also remove bubblegum.  Cooking oil will work
surfaces that will absorb the cooking oil



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] removing tar idea

[tunecollector]

Freeze it or get it as cold as possible and then scrape it off.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:38 PM
To: Handyman-Blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] removing tar idea

Today I had a rubber roof installed on my back porch. At the top of the
steps there is one glob of tar or roof cement. It is on the top concrete
step where I will probably step in it when the sun heats it up and makes it
soft. Also my guide dog often lays there.
To remove I have a few ideas wonder if there is a better way. 
I don't want to scrape and use paint thinner I think that would create a
bigger mess.
My ideas are to freeze it and use a wire brush attachment in my drill and
have the shop vac collecting the stuff.
To freeze I thought about dry ice if it is available in a fairly small
quantity. Or using a can of air this will freeze if I hold the nozzle very
close or last resort pile ice cubes. 
Any ideas?
Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Suggestions for sound/echo proofing my shop

[tunecollector]

Back in my rock band days, we stapled egg cartons to the wall and then
shrouded them with rugs and blankets.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:24 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Suggestions for sound/echo proofing my shop

Hi,

>From the little I have read on the subject, most noise makes it's way from
place to place through small gaps and holes. This is not to say that other
sound damping isn't helpful but the first thing you want to do before you
get things crammed against the shared walls is to look for any gaps or holes
and fill them with things like calking, expanding foam or filler strips,
maybe running a length of trim board along the top of the partition stuck in
place with silicone calk so air and sounds can't penetrate.

You may find water pipes or electrical conduit which you can seal around to
help.

After that, it starts to get expensive. You could install a dummy finish
wall separated slightly and packed with insulation so sound striking it
won't be directly conducted to the partition wall and with that special
dense fiberglass on the back side to damp movement of the wall board you
won't get standing waves.

Just a couple of suggestions but sealing air passages is easily the best.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: David Sexton 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Suggestions for sound/echo proofing my shop

I'm moving into a townhouse with a nice concrete basement. I'm looking for
suggestions and ideas on how best to make this space less echo and/or keep
the sound in so my poor neighbor doesn't hate me everytime I use my table
saw.
David

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Olive Oil

[tunecollector]

A tasty article.  Can anyone recommend a specific brand of extra virgin
olive oil?  There are a zillion brands ranging in price from Bangladesh
price to Monte Carlo prices.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ray Boyce
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:18 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Olive Oil

Hi All
For all the Italians and those of us who use Olive Oil.
How is olive oil made?

Background

The olive and the tree on which it grows have been revered since ancient 
times. Archaeological digs have unearthed evidence that olive trees existed 
on
the island of Crete in 3500 B.C. The Semitic peoples were cultivating the 
tree's fruit by 3000 B.C. They particularly liked to use the oil of the 
olive
to
anoint
the body during religious ceremonies, and to light their lamps. An ancient 
Hebrew law prohibiting the destruction of any olive tree is still obeyed.

By the time of the Roman Empire, olives were a
mainstay
of the agricultural economy. The Romans also used the oil to
grease
the axles of wagons and chariots. The Greeks traded it for wheat; the 
elaborately decorated clay pots that they used to transport the oil became 
part of
the civilization's burgeoning art industry.

The olive tree is mentioned frequently in the Koran and in the Bible. Noah 
receives the message that land is near when a dove arrives at the ark with 
an
olive branch in its mouth. Greek mythology associates the goddess
Athena
with the olive tree and credits Acropos, the founder of Athens, with 
teaching the Greeks to extract oil from the tree's fruit.

A member of the evergreen family, the olive tree features a
gnarled
trunk and leaves with a
silvery
underside. Its strong root system is perfect for
penetrating
sand, limestone, or heavy, poorly aerated soil. The trees thrive best in 
regions with rainy winters and hot, dry summers. Although it may take up to 
eight
years before a tree produces its first harvest, a single tree can live for 
centuries.

Early oil producers pressed the olives by crushing them between huge 
cone-shaped stones as they turned slowly on a base of granite. Today, most 
factories
employ hydraulic presses, exerting hundreds of tons of pressure, to separate

the oil from the olive paste. Spain and Italy are the primary commercial 
producers
of olives and olive oil. Greece is close behind them. However, California, 
Australia, and South Africa are emerging as leaders in the industry. Some 
wineries
are planting olives to offset poor wine harvests. Ironically, olive trees 
were planted in California by missionaries in the 1800s, which by the turn 
of
the century were producing an excellent grade of olive oil. However, the 
market demand was weak so the trees were uprooted and grape vines were 
planted
in their place.

In the late twentieth century, emphasis on good nutrition and a
fascination
with the so-called Mediterranean diet has resulted in a
resurgence
in the olive oil trade. Olive oil is touted as a monounsaturate that is
healthier
for human consumption than corn and vegetable oils. The oil is also promoted

as a
dandruff
reliever and, when mixed with
beeswax,
a homemade lip
balm.
In the late 1990s, the United States and Canada consumed olive oil at a 
yearly rate of 147,600 tons (150,000 metric tons). The demand often exceeds 
the
supply, and during the 1990s prices rose significantly.

Raw Materials

The primary ingredient of olive oil is the oil that is expressed from ripe 
olives. In the late spring, small flowers appear on the olive trees. Wind 
pollination
results in the blossoming of the olives, which reach their peak oil content 
approximately six months later. Thus, the olives are harvested from November
to March, after they have progressed in color from green to
reddish
violet to black. It is often necessary to harvest olives from the same trees

several times in order to gather olives at the same stage of maturation.

Since ancient times, workers have knocked the fruit from the trees with 
long-handled poles. The process has not changed significantly over the 
centuries.
Modern poles resemble rakes. Originally, nets were spread under the tree to 
catch the falling olives. Many producers are now using plastic covers to 
cushion
the fall and to allow for
cleaner,
faster gathering.

One quart (0.95 L) of extra virgin olive oil, the highest level of quality, 
requires 2,000 olives. The only added ingredient in extra virgin olive oil 
is
the warm water used to
flush
away the bittemess of the olives, caused by the presence of oleuropein. 
Extra virgin olive oil contains not more than 1%
oleic acid.
Pure olive oil, that which results from the second pressing, is often mixed 
with extra virgin olive oil. The commercial, or non-edible, grades are put 
through
a refining process that may leave traces of soda solutions and
bleaching
carbons.

The Manufacturing
Process

Collecting and grading the olives
. After the ripe

RE: [BlindHandyMan] flooring question

[tunecollector]

We will be ripping out the ceramic tile in the kitchen and replacing it with
cork flooring to diminish the shattering effect that you mentioned

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of RJ
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:07 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] flooring question

I just had a house built about five years ago and put in ceramic tile in the
bathroom, hall kitchen, dining room and burbur carpet in the living and
bedrooms . I like the ceramic because it is easy to clean and the carpet
pile is short and does not stain. The only draw back is if you drop
something made of glass on the ceramic, it is most likely be in pieces.
RJ
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Jackson 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] flooring question

I didn't really make it clear in that last post, but I am hoping for some
comments on what kind of, if any, flooring works for someone who is blind?
Both in terms of mobility and maintenance. I know my preference is for hard
surfaces with occasional throw rugs as landmarks. Though I do not know if
this has anything to do with my blindness, as this is the kind of look that
appealed to me as a sighted person too. Though then the area carpet was more
for aesthetics.

Jennifer

- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Jackson 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:06 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] flooring question

Hey Guys,

I have been preauthorized for a home loan and have started the hunt. So if
all goes well, I will be buying a house shortly. I am sure hoping you guys
will have some help for me on a flooring question.

I really like hard wood floors. Not just the look, but the sound and feel of
walking on them. I think these are considered raised floors. How do I know
what is under the carpet? I am looking at houses that were generally built
in the 60's and 70's.

I had always known I liked those kind of floors, but had not really thought
about why until visiting the home of someone with a blind child who had
built her house with those kind of floors because she had been told they
will be helpful to him.

Jennifer

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[BlindHandyMan] my position on the floor

[tunecollector]

You need not have a raised floor to have wood flooring.  My house sits on a
concrete pad with various rooms having ceramic tile, vinyl flooring, wood,
and wall-to-wall carpeting.  It is easier to navigate on the vinyl and wood
floors with the use of strategically placed runners and small area rugs.  To
these, we have applied double-back adhesive tape which keeps the rugs from
visiting their neighbors.  The room with the most ceramic tile flooring is
in the kitchen where we have placed thick rubberized mats at four locations.
The wall-to-wall carpeting is the biggest challenge.  Here the rugs and
runners tend to migrate and using tape doesn't work.  Stitching the rugs
into the place onto the carpet creates a situation where dirt collects under
the rugs and it is a pain to clean.  I have resorted to placing very thick
runners and mats on top of the carpet.  These too will eventually migrate
but with less frequency and less distance.  In terms of pure navigation,
wall-to-wall carpeting is not the way to go.

But then, just my experience.   There are more inventive minds than mine on
this list and I would value their suggestions.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Making Water from thin Air

[tunecollector]

Tom,
A semi-agreement here.  I have lived in several deserts for a number of
yeatrs.  The collector would work in the upper desert during the winter.  At
least as to the desert just east of the Sierras.  I remember waking up many
winter mornings, having to scrape the ice off my windshield.  Also, it may
work in larger communities such as Tucson, where the humidity has gone up
due to all the landscaping from all the homes.  Finally, where I live now,
at the southern California beach, we get the sea air but not the
precipitation.  Technically, we are a semi-arid desert.  We the population
booming here, it is a matter of time before there will be water rationing.
The Bay Area has already shut down shipping water from the delta down south
for the last week and it is already having an effect on some rural
communities.  Thus, my question from a couple of months back about sending
gray water from my washer to my garden.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:04 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Making Water from thin Air

Max has that right, any time they say unlimited anything or free
anything they're wrong. they said any climate, I defy them to get
much out of high desert air where you'd really need it.

Most student projects you hear of once and never again.

cynically as always

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[BlindHandyMan] info on needleguns needed

[tunecollector]

I am considering removing paint off a brick fireplace with a needlegun.
Does anyone have thoughts on the subject?



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] re watermarks on table top

[tunecollector]

What you are looking for is some wood polish that is not a wax.  
What you will be doing is buffing out the white watermark out of the finish
but you don't want to remove the finish.  The liquid polish is to prevent
the steel wool to be too abrasive plus it restores the shine to your finish.
Scotts Liquid Gold can be purchased in most grocery stores.  You could look
for some dark scratch cover to supplant the Liquid Gold but I don't know any
brand names.  Again, look for some liquid furniture polish.  You are buying
polish and not lacquer or varnish.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of carl
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:32 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] re watermarks on table top

is thair another name for that scots liquid goald
- Original Message ----- 
From: tunecollector 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] re watermarks on table top

Since the blemish is in the finish and not in the wood, the white watermarks
can be rubbed out with  steel wool and Scotts Liquid Gold.

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Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:35 AM
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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] re watermarks on table top

hi foalks the watermarks are light in couler on a medeum couler wood 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] re watermarks on table top

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Since the blemish is in the finish and not in the wood, the white watermarks
can be rubbed out with  steel wool and Scotts Liquid Gold.

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hi foalks the watermarks are light in couler on a medeum couler wood 

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[BlindHandyMan] removing watermarks

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If the watermarks are white, use  steel wool and Scott's Liquid Gold or
some other dark scratch cover.

If the watermarks are black, use oxalic acid with water.   steel wool.
Wear protective gloves.  You can buy oxalic acid at a pharmacy.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] advice neded re watermarks on a table

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Are the watermarks light or dark?

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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:48 AM
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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] advice neded re watermarks on a table

hi can you help i have a dining table and thair are a few water markes on ti
and i'm looking for advice on removeing sead markd all i kno it is a light
wood can anyone help pleas 

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