[BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Matt
Hi ya folks.  Lately I've gotten into drying apples and cooking pies and stuff 
out of them.  Mainly, I started out buying them already done from a Mennonite 
owned store.  I quickly got addicted to them as snack food, then found recipes 
for making pies and breads out of them.  I looked up instructions on drying 
your own.  They suggested oven on the lowest setting, or in a car on a hot day.
The oven works, but your spouse complains about the oven always being busy, and 
you can only get so many in there at 1 time.  And it does take at least 6 hours 
the way I did it.
My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, because as it is I am a gadget buyer. 
 And ya start running out of space to live after so long.
Just now I am considering building a wooden frame which would hold cookie 
sheets stacked but spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, and buying 
screen to cover the outside to keep some bugs out, and putting an old fan I 
have out in storage in one end of it.  My idea lacks the heat element factor, 
but I live in east tx, and am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or out 
in a back room where there is no air conditioning.  I could go to the trouble 
of forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to build them, but then cleaning 
something like that with a wood frame?  I don't think that would last long.  
Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
just curious.

Matt

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[BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Keith Christian
Hi Matt,
I use to grow hops for brewing.  I dried them by setting them in an old
dresser with a fan attached to the back side.  The bottoms of the drawers
were removed and I inserted some wire mesh to allow the air to flow through
the hops.  It worked great.  
 
Sounds like fun.  Let us know what you decide and how it works out.
 
Keith
 


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
Aloha Matt,
My friend made trays with extruded aluminum just 
like some folks use to make window screens. Then 
she could just take them out in the yard and squirt them off with the hose.
She made a tent out of screen that was open on 
the bottom so it could just be set over the whole 
stack of trays. She used some sort of round metal 
sticks to separate the stacked trays. I remember 
that she had some sort of round stops on the 
separation sticks, and the frames of the trays 
had wholes for the separating sticks to fit into.
I'll try to reach her via email. She lives in 
California now, but she used to dry apples, 
pineapple, bananas, papaya, mango, parsley, and basil when she lived here.
Betsy
At 11:37 AM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying 
>apples and cooking pies and stuff out of them. 
>Mainly, I started out buying them already done 
>from a Mennonite owned store. I quickly got 
>addicted to them as snack food, then found 
>recipes for making pies and breads out of them. 
>I looked up instructions on drying your own. 
>They suggested oven on the lowest setting, or in a car on a hot day.
>The oven works, but your spouse complains about 
>the oven always being busy, and you can only get 
>so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at least 6 hours the way I did it.
>My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, 
>because as it is I am a gadget buyer. And ya 
>start running out of space to live after so long.
>Just now I am considering building a wooden 
>frame which would hold cookie sheets stacked but 
>spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, 
>and buying screen to cover the outside to keep 
>some bugs out, and putting an old fan I have out 
>in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the 
>heat element factor, but I live in east tx, and 
>am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or 
>out in a back room where there is no air 
>conditioning. I could go to the trouble of 
>forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to 
>build them, but then cleaning something like 
>that with a wood frame? I don't think that would 
>last long. Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
>just curious.
>
>Matt
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Jim Gatteys
Hi Matt!
I used some old wooden frames and screen nailed across them for racks for years 
but finally broke down and bought an excalibur dehydrater.  Best investment I 
ever made.  I dry tons of stuff from my garden.  I'm in west Texas and in the 
summer I keep the dehydrater outside while doing onions and tomatoes.  Works 
great.
Jim

On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Matt wrote:

> Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying apples and cooking pies and stuff 
> out of them. Mainly, I started out buying them already done from a Mennonite 
> owned store. I quickly got addicted to them as snack food, then found recipes 
> for making pies and breads out of them. I looked up instructions on drying 
> your own. They suggested oven on the lowest setting, or in a car on a hot day.
> The oven works, but your spouse complains about the oven always being busy, 
> and you can only get so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at least 6 
> hours the way I did it.
> My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, because as it is I am a gadget 
> buyer. And ya start running out of space to live after so long.
> Just now I am considering building a wooden frame which would hold cookie 
> sheets stacked but spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, and buying 
> screen to cover the outside to keep some bugs out, and putting an old fan I 
> have out in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the heat element factor, 
> but I live in east tx, and am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or 
> out in a back room where there is no air conditioning. I could go to the 
> trouble of forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to build them, but then 
> cleaning something like that with a wood frame? I don't think that would last 
> long. Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
> just curious.
> 
> Matt
> 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Matt
Your wooden frame and screens is kind of what I am thinking just now to start 
with.  Did you use a heat element and a fan?  I'm rummaging around for unused 
stuff to play with the idea.
Sitting here with a small fan in my lap just now and pondering perhaps an 
electric skillet as heat element to go in bottom?  Probably here in east texas, 
all I would need is a screened in box with vented racks of some sort, and maybe 
a fan at top to speed up the process, but I haven't decided yet.  I'm wondering 
about some sort of webbed or porous material to stretch over dowels or wooden 
frame as trays.  Still in the pondering stage.

Matt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Gatteys 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or 
dehydrator



  Hi Matt!
  I used some old wooden frames and screen nailed across them for racks for 
years but finally broke down and bought an excalibur dehydrater. Best 
investment I ever made. I dry tons of stuff from my garden. I'm in west Texas 
and in the summer I keep the dehydrater outside while doing onions and 
tomatoes. Works great.
  Jim

  On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Matt wrote:

  > Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying apples and cooking pies and 
stuff out of them. Mainly, I started out buying them already done from a 
Mennonite owned store. I quickly got addicted to them as snack food, then found 
recipes for making pies and breads out of them. I looked up instructions on 
drying your own. They suggested oven on the lowest setting, or in a car on a 
hot day.
  > The oven works, but your spouse complains about the oven always being busy, 
and you can only get so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at least 6 
hours the way I did it.
  > My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, because as it is I am a gadget 
buyer. And ya start running out of space to live after so long.
  > Just now I am considering building a wooden frame which would hold cookie 
sheets stacked but spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, and buying 
screen to cover the outside to keep some bugs out, and putting an old fan I 
have out in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the heat element factor, 
but I live in east tx, and am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or out 
in a back room where there is no air conditioning. I could go to the trouble of 
forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to build them, but then cleaning 
something like that with a wood frame? I don't think that would last long. 
Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
  > just curious.
  > 
  > Matt
  > 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Dan Rossi
If you build a dehydrator, you haven't saved any space over buying one. 
By the time you build one, you could purchase one, maybe.  The one you 
purchase can run all year, where if you have one that can only run in the 
warm weather, well, it can only run in the warm weather.

Having said that, I would never really deter someone from taking on a 
project.  So go for it.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


RE: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Cy Selfridge
Hi,

I concur with the fact that you would probably be just as well of purchasing
your dehydrator – but – in case you wanted to build one use ¼ inch hardware
cloth. It is sturdy enough to keep out unwanted birds and such and will
allow plenty of air circulation.

I read (somewhere) that simply placing the fruit or whatever in your
dehydrator on the roof will do a bang up job of drying it out.

Cy, the Anasazi 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:25 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
dehydrator

 

  

Your wooden frame and screens is kind of what I am thinking just now to
start with. Did you use a heat element and a fan? I'm rummaging around for
unused stuff to play with the idea.
Sitting here with a small fan in my lap just now and pondering perhaps an
electric skillet as heat element to go in bottom? Probably here in east
texas, all I would need is a screened in box with vented racks of some sort,
and maybe a fan at top to speed up the process, but I haven't decided yet.
I'm wondering about some sort of webbed or porous material to stretch over
dowels or wooden frame as trays. Still in the pondering stage.

Matt
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Gatteys 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
dehydrator

Hi Matt!
I used some old wooden frames and screen nailed across them for racks for
years but finally broke down and bought an excalibur dehydrater. Best
investment I ever made. I dry tons of stuff from my garden. I'm in west
Texas and in the summer I keep the dehydrater outside while doing onions and
tomatoes. Works great.
Jim

On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Matt wrote:

> Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying apples and cooking pies and
stuff out of them. Mainly, I started out buying them already done from a
Mennonite owned store. I quickly got addicted to them as snack food, then
found recipes for making pies and breads out of them. I looked up
instructions on drying your own. They suggested oven on the lowest setting,
or in a car on a hot day.
> The oven works, but your spouse complains about the oven always being
busy, and you can only get so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at
least 6 hours the way I did it.
> My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, because as it is I am a gadget
buyer. And ya start running out of space to live after so long.
> Just now I am considering building a wooden frame which would hold cookie
sheets stacked but spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, and buying
screen to cover the outside to keep some bugs out, and putting an old fan I
have out in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the heat element factor,
but I live in east tx, and am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or
out in a back room where there is no air conditioning. I could go to the
trouble of forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to build them, but then
cleaning something like that with a wood frame? I don't think that would
last long. Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
> just curious.
> 
> Matt
> 
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> 
> 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Cy Selfridge
Hi Matt,

Ahha, I found the original article on this thread. (LOL)

You can make trays for holding the fruit out of hardware cloth. I believe
that the ¼ or 3/8 inch hardware cloth would be plenty strong to hold the
fruit without the use of a wooden frame. Just make some slots for the
hardware cloth to fit on and all should be fine.

I would set the contraption right out in the sun to dry, it should be
complete in a day during the summer and a couple of days in fall.

Good luck.

Cy

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:37 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
dehydrator

 

  

Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying apples and cooking pies and
stuff out of them. Mainly, I started out buying them already done from a
Mennonite owned store. I quickly got addicted to them as snack food, then
found recipes for making pies and breads out of them. I looked up
instructions on drying your own. They suggested oven on the lowest setting,
or in a car on a hot day.
The oven works, but your spouse complains about the oven always being busy,
and you can only get so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at least 6
hours the way I did it.
My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, because as it is I am a gadget
buyer. And ya start running out of space to live after so long.
Just now I am considering building a wooden frame which would hold cookie
sheets stacked but spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, and buying
screen to cover the outside to keep some bugs out, and putting an old fan I
have out in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the heat element factor,
but I live in east tx, and am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or
out in a back room where there is no air conditioning. I could go to the
trouble of forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to build them, but then
cleaning something like that with a wood frame? I don't think that would
last long. Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
just curious.

Matt

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Dale Leavens
Don't people get valley fever from spores in the raisin drying process in 
California in the '30s??

If you use a heating element be sure to have a reliable thermostat. You 
probably don't need so much heat as you do adequate air movement.

How about a clothes drier maybe with a tilt and chute like a cement mixer 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Cy Selfridge 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:52 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or 
dehydrator



  Hi,

  I concur with the fact that you would probably be just as well of purchasing
  your dehydrator - but - in case you wanted to build one use ¼ inch hardware
  cloth. It is sturdy enough to keep out unwanted birds and such and will
  allow plenty of air circulation.

  I read (somewhere) that simply placing the fruit or whatever in your
  dehydrator on the roof will do a bang up job of drying it out.

  Cy, the Anasazi 

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:25 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
  dehydrator

  Your wooden frame and screens is kind of what I am thinking just now to
  start with. Did you use a heat element and a fan? I'm rummaging around for
  unused stuff to play with the idea.
  Sitting here with a small fan in my lap just now and pondering perhaps an
  electric skillet as heat element to go in bottom? Probably here in east
  texas, all I would need is a screened in box with vented racks of some sort,
  and maybe a fan at top to speed up the process, but I haven't decided yet.
  I'm wondering about some sort of webbed or porous material to stretch over
  dowels or wooden frame as trays. Still in the pondering stage.

  Matt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Gatteys 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
  dehydrator

  Hi Matt!
  I used some old wooden frames and screen nailed across them for racks for
  years but finally broke down and bought an excalibur dehydrater. Best
  investment I ever made. I dry tons of stuff from my garden. I'm in west
  Texas and in the summer I keep the dehydrater outside while doing onions and
  tomatoes. Works great.
  Jim

  On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Matt wrote:

  > Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying apples and cooking pies and
  stuff out of them. Mainly, I started out buying them already done from a
  Mennonite owned store. I quickly got addicted to them as snack food, then
  found recipes for making pies and breads out of them. I looked up
  instructions on drying your own. They suggested oven on the lowest setting,
  or in a car on a hot day.
  > The oven works, but your spouse complains about the oven always being
  busy, and you can only get so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at
  least 6 hours the way I did it.
  > My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, because as it is I am a gadget
  buyer. And ya start running out of space to live after so long.
  > Just now I am considering building a wooden frame which would hold cookie
  sheets stacked but spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, and buying
  screen to cover the outside to keep some bugs out, and putting an old fan I
  have out in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the heat element factor,
  but I live in east tx, and am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or
  out in a back room where there is no air conditioning. I could go to the
  trouble of forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to build them, but then
  cleaning something like that with a wood frame? I don't think that would
  last long. Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
  > just curious.
  > 
  > Matt
  > 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-09 Thread Victor Gouveia
I've heard that dehydrators tend to use quite a bit of electricity, and 
while the dehydration process might be faster and easier, the savings on the 
electrical bill would more than offset the ease of it all.

Mind you, this information was gotten based on the old Popiel dehydrators, 
so it may be out of date.

Victor 



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Jim Gatteys
I really think that the fact that dehydrators use more electricity is 
mis-information.  I keep two of them going almost all summer and don't notice 
any difference in the bill.  They only heat to about 145 or so and they use 
about the same as a small lightbulb to heat and a small fan.  Go to 
http://www.excaliburdehydrators.com

I'm not plugging this site.  Its just where I got my dehydrators from and am 
really happy with them.  The site  has a lot of good recipes and know-how there.
Jim
On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:

> I've heard that dehydrators tend to use quite a bit of electricity, and 
> while the dehydration process might be faster and easier, the savings on the 
> electrical bill would more than offset the ease of it all.
> 
> Mind you, this information was gotten based on the old Popiel dehydrators, 
> so it may be out of date.
> 
> Victor 
> 


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Jim Gatteys
Well I didn't use a fan because we always have breezes here and they are dryer 
than my sense of humor.  What about using those rolls of that plastic screening 
that goes into storm doors?  They might clean up easily with a waterhose 
outside.  I guess you need to think about how many apples you are going to dry. 
 My  racks in the new dehydrator are maybe 14 by 14 inches.  Haven't measured 
them.  There are 9 in each unit.  They are spaced with 1/2 inch clearance 
between them.  Depending on how I cut them, I can get about 2 apples per rack.
Jim


On Jul 9, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Matt wrote:

- Original Message - 
Matt

> Your wooden frame and screens is kind of what I am thinking just now to start 
> with. Did you use a heat element and a fan? I'm rummaging around for unused 
> stuff to play with the idea.
> Sitting here with a small fan in my lap just now and pondering perhaps an 
> electric skillet as heat element to go in bottom? Probably here in east 
> texas, all I would need is a screened in box with vented racks of some sort, 
> and maybe a fan at top to speed up the process, but I haven't decided yet. 
> I'm wondering about some sort of webbed or porous material to stretch over 
> dowels or wooden frame as trays. Still in the pondering stage.

> From: Jim Gatteys
> 

> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or 
> dehydrator
> 
> Hi Matt!
> I used some old wooden frames and screen nailed across them for racks for 
> years but finally broke down and bought an excalibur dehydrater. Best 
> investment I ever made. I dry tons of stuff from my garden. I'm in west Texas 
> and in the summer I keep the dehydrater outside while doing onions and 
> tomatoes. Works great.
> Jim
> 
> On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Matt wrote:
> 
> > Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying apples and cooking pies and 
> > stuff out of them. Mainly, I started out buying them already done from a 
> > Mennonite owned store. I quickly got addicted to them as snack food, then 
> > found recipes for making pies and breads out of them. I looked up 
> > instructions on drying your own. They suggested oven on the lowest setting, 
> > or in a car on a hot day.
> > The oven works, but your spouse complains about the oven always being busy, 
> > and you can only get so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at least 
> > 6 hours the way I did it.
> > My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, because as it is I am a gadget 
> > buyer. And ya start running out of space to live after so long.
> > Just now I am considering building a wooden frame which would hold cookie 
> > sheets stacked but spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, and 
> > buying screen to cover the outside to keep some bugs out, and putting an 
> > old fan I have out in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the heat 
> > element factor, but I live in east tx, and am figuring, I could set it up 
> > in the attic, or out in a back room where there is no air conditioning. I 
> > could go to the trouble of forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to 
> > build them, but then cleaning something like that with a wood frame? I 
> > don't think that would last long. Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make 
> > jerky or whatever?
> > just curious.
> > 
> > Matt
> > 
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Lee A. Stone

my question is   would be how much cuhnter or shelf space Jim d your 
machines take up? and then how do you tore the end roduct? If you do 
not mind I'd like to take  some o f the discussion off list.  Might I 
email you  Lee. thanks

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 04:45:11AM 
-0500, Jim 
Gatteys wrote:
> I really think that the fact that dehydrators use more electricity is 
> mis-information.  I keep two of them going almost all summer and don't notice 
> any difference in the bill.  They only heat to about 145 or so and they use 
> about the same as a small lightbulb to heat and a small fan.  Go to 
> http://www.excaliburdehydrators.com
> 
> I'm not plugging this site.  Its just where I got my dehydrators from and am 
> really happy with them.  The site  has a lot of good recipes and know-how 
> there.
> Jim
> On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:
> 
> > I've heard that dehydrators tend to use quite a bit of electricity, and 
> > while the dehydration process might be faster and easier, the savings on 
> > the 
> > electrical bill would more than offset the ease of it all.
> > 
> > Mind you, this information was gotten based on the old Popiel dehydrators, 
> > so it may be out of date.
> > 
> > Victor 
> > 
> 
> 
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> 

-- 
In vino veritas.
[In wine there is truth.]
-- Pliny


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Lee A. Stone

all this idea of dried fruit  is making my stomach growl . so keep us 
posted Matt on how you make out. Lee


\On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 12:42:06PM 
-1000, Betsy Whitney, 
Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Matt,
> My friend made trays with extruded aluminum just 
> like some folks use to make window screens. Then 
> she could just take them out in the yard and squirt them off with the hose.
> She made a tent out of screen that was open on 
> the bottom so it could just be set over the whole 
> stack of trays. She used some sort of round metal 
> sticks to separate the stacked trays. I remember 
> that she had some sort of round stops on the 
> separation sticks, and the frames of the trays 
> had wholes for the separating sticks to fit into.
> I'll try to reach her via email. She lives in 
> California now, but she used to dry apples, 
> pineapple, bananas, papaya, mango, parsley, and basil when she lived here.
> Betsy
> At 11:37 AM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi ya folks. Lately I've gotten into drying 
> >apples and cooking pies and stuff out of them. 
> >Mainly, I started out buying them already done 
> >from a Mennonite owned store. I quickly got 
> >addicted to them as snack food, then found 
> >recipes for making pies and breads out of them. 
> >I looked up instructions on drying your own. 
> >They suggested oven on the lowest setting, or in a car on a hot day.
> >The oven works, but your spouse complains about 
> >the oven always being busy, and you can only get 
> >so many in there at 1 time. And it does take at least 6 hours the way I did 
> >it.
> >My wife suggested I not buy a dehydrator, 
> >because as it is I am a gadget buyer. And ya 
> >start running out of space to live after so long.
> >Just now I am considering building a wooden 
> >frame which would hold cookie sheets stacked but 
> >spaced from one another 1 on top of the other, 
> >and buying screen to cover the outside to keep 
> >some bugs out, and putting an old fan I have out 
> >in storage in one end of it. My idea lacks the 
> >heat element factor, but I live in east tx, and 
> >am figuring, I could set it up in the attic, or 
> >out in a back room where there is no air 
> >conditioning. I could go to the trouble of 
> >forming my own screen trays, if I wanted to 
> >build them, but then cleaning something like 
> >that with a wood frame? I don't think that would 
> >last long. Anyone ever done this stuff, say, to make jerky or whatever?
> >just curious.
> >
> >Matt
> >
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> >
> >
> 

-- 
In vino veritas.
[In wine there is truth.]
-- Pliny


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Jim Gatteys
Hi Lee!
if you have questions off list that's fine.  My dehydrator is about the size of 
a microwave and when the stuff is dry it goes into fruit jars that I seal with 
a device called a pump 'n seal from 
http://pump-n-seal.com

It works like a foodsaver but its about 30 dollars and works great.  I buy 
coffee beans and vaccuum seal them in jars and they stay that way for months.
Jim

On Jul 10, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Lee A. Stone wrote:

> 
> my question is would be how much cuhnter or shelf space Jim d your 
> machines take up? and then how do you tore the end roduct? If you do 
> not mind I'd like to take some o f the discussion off list. Might I 
> email you Lee. thanks
> 
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 04:45:11AM 
> -0500, Jim 
> Gatteys wrote:
> > I really think that the fact that dehydrators use more electricity is 
> > mis-information. I keep two of them going almost all summer and don't 
> > notice any difference in the bill. They only heat to about 145 or so and 
> > they use about the same as a small lightbulb to heat and a small fan. Go to 
> > http://www.excaliburdehydrators.com
> > 
> > I'm not plugging this site. Its just where I got my dehydrators from and am 
> > really happy with them. The site has a lot of good recipes and know-how 
> > there.
> > Jim
> > On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:
> > 
> > > I've heard that dehydrators tend to use quite a bit of electricity, and 
> > > while the dehydration process might be faster and easier, the savings on 
> > > the 
> > > electrical bill would more than offset the ease of it all.
> > > 
> > > Mind you, this information was gotten based on the old Popiel 
> > > dehydrators, 
> > > so it may be out of date.
> > > 
> > > Victor 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> -- 
> In vino veritas.
> [In wine there is truth.]
> -- Pliny
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Spiro
I don't know about electricity usage, they do not get very hot. But 
efficiency is the argument there that is unnecessary. I just wanted to 
chime in here with "popiel being just fine for delicious banana chips; 
after a little trial and error on time and placement. it's a funny stack 
of trays, hard plastic and stackable. You can add or remove in process.the 
element is in the bottom and the top is just a lid.
I strongly recommend something other for jerky as the fats will leak 
through the bottom. I don't know if the paperwork advises against meats, 
or omits them, but that's my advice on that.





On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, Jim Gatteys wrote:

> I really think that the fact that dehydrators use more electricity is 
> mis-information.  I keep two of them going almost all summer and don't notice 
> any difference in the bill.  They only heat to about 145 or so and they use 
> about the same as a small lightbulb to heat and a small fan.  Go to
> http://www.excaliburdehydrators.com
>
> I'm not plugging this site.  Its just where I got my dehydrators from and am 
> really happy with them.  The site  has a lot of good recipes and know-how 
> there.
> Jim
> On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote:
>
>> I've heard that dehydrators tend to use quite a bit of electricity, and
>> while the dehydration process might be faster and easier, the savings on the
>> electrical bill would more than offset the ease of it all.
>>
>> Mind you, this information was gotten based on the old Popiel dehydrators,
>> so it may be out of date.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>
>
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>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Matt
hahahah, funny you should mention that.  I've been looking around for an 
existing closed cabinet or something which I could rig up like that, and one 
thing I have considered has been an old dressor.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Christian 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:23 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator



  Hi Matt,
  I use to grow hops for brewing. I dried them by setting them in an old
  dresser with a fan attached to the back side. The bottoms of the drawers
  were removed and I inserted some wire mesh to allow the air to flow through
  the hops. It worked great. 

  Sounds like fun. Let us know what you decide and how it works out.

  Keith


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-10 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
Speaking of using existing things, my friend that 
I mentioned yesterday tells me that she has now 
made a dryer out of the cupboard above her 
refridgerator. She took out the bottom and the 
top and replaced them with screen. For heat She 
installed a light fixture inside to create heat 
and the circulation from the refridgerator fan 
creates the circulation to move the air. She's 
been drying all sorts of things, but says that if 
you're drying such things as apples you may have 
to slice them thinner than you would for an actual dehydrator.
At 04:36 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>hahahah, funny you should mention that. I've 
>been looking around for an existing closed 
>cabinet or something which I could rig up like 
>that, and one thing I have considered has been an old dressor.
>- Original Message -
>From: Keith Christian
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:23 PM
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator
>
>Hi Matt,
>I use to grow hops for brewing. I dried them by setting them in an old
>dresser with a fan attached to the back side. The bottoms of the drawers
>were removed and I inserted some wire mesh to allow the air to flow through
>the hops. It worked great.
>
>Sounds like fun. Let us know what you decide and how it works out.
>
>Keith
>
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>
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>



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-11 Thread Matt
The fan is something that concerns me.  The one I drug up, which I already had 
is small, maybe 8 inches or smaller, but it's meant for cooling a small place 
for a person, so that may be too strong.  Perhaps if the heatting element is in 
bottom and the fan in top pointed down, to push the hot air back down, and then 
vents on bottom so that the heat continues to rise, and any excess gets blown 
out through bottom?
I'm just not sure.  I have old tower cases of computers I have out-grown, and 
they have fans, but extracting them and using them... I just don't see myself 
messing with it.  I've considered setting up a system in shelving in my bedroom 
closet even.  Funny all of the things which cross your mind when you're being 
kind of cheap and lazy and looking at existing cabinets.  My wife's grandmother 
told us that her neighbor used to put apples up on the roof for drying and I 
read an account on the net of people in the old days spreading them out on the 
tin roof of a shed.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or 
dehydrator



  Speaking of using existing things, my friend that 
  I mentioned yesterday tells me that she has now 
  made a dryer out of the cupboard above her 
  refridgerator. She took out the bottom and the 
  top and replaced them with screen. For heat She 
  installed a light fixture inside to create heat 
  and the circulation from the refridgerator fan 
  creates the circulation to move the air. She's 
  been drying all sorts of things, but says that if 
  you're drying such things as apples you may have 
  to slice them thinner than you would for an actual dehydrator.
  At 04:36 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
  >
  >
  >hahahah, funny you should mention that. I've 
  >been looking around for an existing closed 
  >cabinet or something which I could rig up like 
  >that, and one thing I have considered has been an old dressor.
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Keith Christian
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:23 PM
  >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or 
dehydrator
  >
  >Hi Matt,
  >I use to grow hops for brewing. I dried them by setting them in an old
  >dresser with a fan attached to the back side. The bottoms of the drawers
  >were removed and I inserted some wire mesh to allow the air to flow through
  >the hops. It worked great.
  >
  >Sounds like fun. Let us know what you decide and how it works out.
  >
  >Keith
  >
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-11 Thread Cy Selfridge
Hi Matt,

Using the roof was not all that uncommon a practice years ago.

You would, of course, need to have the fruit or whatever on some sort of
rack such as hardware cloth and also covered by the same to keep the wee
little birdies from dining out.

This method is pretty blamed effective.

Cy, The Anasazi

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:58 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
dehydrator

 

  

The fan is something that concerns me. The one I drug up, which I already
had is small, maybe 8 inches or smaller, but it's meant for cooling a small
place for a person, so that may be too strong. Perhaps if the heatting
element is in bottom and the fan in top pointed down, to push the hot air
back down, and then vents on bottom so that the heat continues to rise, and
any excess gets blown out through bottom?
I'm just not sure. I have old tower cases of computers I have out-grown, and
they have fans, but extracting them and using them... I just don't see
myself messing with it. I've considered setting up a system in shelving in
my bedroom closet even. Funny all of the things which cross your mind when
you're being kind of cheap and lazy and looking at existing cabinets. My
wife's grandmother told us that her neighbor used to put apples up on the
roof for drying and I read an account on the net of people in the old days
spreading them out on the tin roof of a shed.
- Original Message - 
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
dehydrator

Speaking of using existing things, my friend that 
I mentioned yesterday tells me that she has now 
made a dryer out of the cupboard above her 
refridgerator. She took out the bottom and the 
top and replaced them with screen. For heat She 
installed a light fixture inside to create heat 
and the circulation from the refridgerator fan 
creates the circulation to move the air. She's 
been drying all sorts of things, but says that if 
you're drying such things as apples you may have 
to slice them thinner than you would for an actual dehydrator.
At 04:36 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>hahahah, funny you should mention that. I've 
>been looking around for an existing closed 
>cabinet or something which I could rig up like 
>that, and one thing I have considered has been an old dressor.
>- Original Message -
>From: Keith Christian
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:23 PM
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
dehydrator
>
>Hi Matt,
>I use to grow hops for brewing. I dried them by setting them in an old
>dresser with a fan attached to the back side. The bottoms of the drawers
>were removed and I inserted some wire mesh to allow the air to flow through
>the hops. It worked great.
>
>Sounds like fun. Let us know what you decide and how it works out.
>
>Keith
>
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-11 Thread Matt
Yeah, but I figured the moisture would have trouble escaping, but... sooner or 
later it would dry out anyway I guess.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cy Selfridge 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:18 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or 
dehydrator



  Hi Matt,

  Using the roof was not all that uncommon a practice years ago.

  You would, of course, need to have the fruit or whatever on some sort of
  rack such as hardware cloth and also covered by the same to keep the wee
  little birdies from dining out.

  This method is pretty blamed effective.

  Cy, The Anasazi

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:58 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
  dehydrator

  The fan is something that concerns me. The one I drug up, which I already
  had is small, maybe 8 inches or smaller, but it's meant for cooling a small
  place for a person, so that may be too strong. Perhaps if the heatting
  element is in bottom and the fan in top pointed down, to push the hot air
  back down, and then vents on bottom so that the heat continues to rise, and
  any excess gets blown out through bottom?
  I'm just not sure. I have old tower cases of computers I have out-grown, and
  they have fans, but extracting them and using them... I just don't see
  myself messing with it. I've considered setting up a system in shelving in
  my bedroom closet even. Funny all of the things which cross your mind when
  you're being kind of cheap and lazy and looking at existing cabinets. My
  wife's grandmother told us that her neighbor used to put apples up on the
  roof for drying and I read an account on the net of people in the old days
  spreading them out on the tin roof of a shed.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
  dehydrator

  Speaking of using existing things, my friend that 
  I mentioned yesterday tells me that she has now 
  made a dryer out of the cupboard above her 
  refridgerator. She took out the bottom and the 
  top and replaced them with screen. For heat She 
  installed a light fixture inside to create heat 
  and the circulation from the refridgerator fan 
  creates the circulation to move the air. She's 
  been drying all sorts of things, but says that if 
  you're drying such things as apples you may have 
  to slice them thinner than you would for an actual dehydrator.
  At 04:36 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
  >
  >
  >hahahah, funny you should mention that. I've 
  >been looking around for an existing closed 
  >cabinet or something which I could rig up like 
  >that, and one thing I have considered has been an old dressor.
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Keith Christian
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  >Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:23 PM
  >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or
  dehydrator
  >
  >Hi Matt,
  >I use to grow hops for brewing. I dried them by setting them in an old
  >dresser with a fan attached to the back side. The bottoms of the drawers
  >were removed and I inserted some wire mesh to allow the air to flow through
  >the hops. It worked great.
  >
  >Sounds like fun. Let us know what you decide and how it works out.
  >
  >Keith
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Considering building my own apple drier or dehydrator

2010-07-11 Thread jim
well i have 2 dehydrators.
one is round and has no fan and i can make a full load of beef jerkey in about 
20 hours.
the other is square and has a fan and will make a full load in about 15 hours.
so fan or not if the heats on the bottom and there are vents in the top it will 
work.
jim


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