Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
Hi, No, the photocell has only a very small aperature to let light in and it is sufficiently in below the source of light. They are available in the UK and come in both Edison and Bayonet style fittings. Useful for those lights out in the garden for lighting up the driveway. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light Really? A photo cell with switching mechanism built right onto the bulb? Wouldn't the light from the bulb convince the sensor it was always daytime? - Original Message - From: Mike Moore To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light Hi, Sometimes the lamp unit has a photocell, which switches on/off at dawn/dusk. However some bulbs also have this unit at the bottom of the bulb. You will know if the bulb has it built in, as the bulb is bulkier than normal. If replacing the bulb doesn't work, perhaps the photocell has blown. I fitted a photocell unit to a metal haylide lamp; the photocell and relay cost only around £8 and the cell itself can be fitted by drilling a hole with the holesaw. The cell has a plastic nut and rubber washers to seal. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: RJ To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light You're right. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: a very simple task? Sweeping your flors?Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch ligh
Hello Blake, I would use a commercial dust mop for this task. They are from 24 to 36 inches wide and will do a really good job of gathering all of the crud and directing it to wherever it is that you want it. Most commercial mops are electrostatic so they really do tend to collect everything and they are not very expensive. You will need the mop itself and the handle. The handle will probably last yo for the rest of your life. (LOLLOL) HTH, Cy, The anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Blake Hardin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:37 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: a very simple task? Sweeping your flors?Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch ligh Hi all, we have hardwood flors in our house and most of the time i just vacume it and it works out fine but sometimes i think it would be better swept. The problem is how do you guys go about doing this in a large room? Do you use a dust pan and sweep the stuff just towards it around that are in grid paterns? Problem i seem to miss te dust pan hhahaha. I know this isn't exactly a blind handy man question but i thought maybe it would pass. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: a very simple task? Sweeping your flors?Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch ligh
I can not give you advice on sweeping however, it is most definitely on topic. you are seeking help on doing a task as a blind individual. moderator -- From: Blake Hardin blakehardin5...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:37 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: a very simple task? Sweeping your flors?Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch ligh Hi all, we have hardwood flors in our house and most of the time i just vacume it and it works out fine but sometimes i think it would be better swept. The problem is how do you guys go about doing this in a large room? Do you use a dust pan and sweep the stuff just towards it around that are in grid paterns? Problem i seem to miss te dust pan hhahaha. I know this isn't exactly a blind handy man question but i thought maybe it would pass. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: a very simple task? Sweeping your flors?Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch ligh
Aloha Blake, I think this is definitely a handyman question. If I am sweeping in the house, I will often sweep all the dust to a corner and then it is easier to get down on the floor and, using a papertowel or a cloth, you can push the dirt right into the dust pan. When you're done, you can also use a damp cloth to get the very fine dust that will probably still be there. Betsy At 01:37 AM 9/4/2010, you wrote: Hi all, we have hardwood flors in our house and most of the time i just vacume it and it works out fine but sometimes i think it would be better swept. The problem is how do you guys go about doing this in a large room? Do you use a dust pan and sweep the stuff just towards it around that are in grid paterns? Problem i seem to miss te dust pan hhahaha. I know this isn't exactly a blind handy man question but i thought maybe it would pass.
[BlindHandyMan] porch light
The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
It is not any special light bulb. There should be numbers and letters on the bulb to confirm this. I wouldn't use a compact fluorscent unless you are in a pretty moderate climate. Bulbs rated for rough service, as in trouble lights or traffic signals last longer if the door is used a lot when the light is on. Ron - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
You're right. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
Your wife looses, you win. Just change the bulb that's all. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares bricemija...@att.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
You are probably right unless it is some sort of florescent bulb. Some of them are special in order that they can strike in sub-zero temperatures. The lamp bulb does not do the sensing. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
This won't go over well with the wife, but you are right. The fixture itself is what makes it different. There are seals to keep the water out of the outlet. You can run any bulb that fits the threads in the outlet. This is within reason. Don't plug in a 500 watt halogen bulb, or something like that. Otherwise it takes a normal bulb. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
No problems with sub degree coldness here, I live in Central California. Hardly ever falls below 32 and the front porch is covered. Now, I have to figure out how to change the light bulb. It is shaped like an octagon with vertical strips of glass about inch and a half wide and about 6 inches high with sheet metal between each strip of glass.. If it's like the one we had at our last home, it's a pain in the ass to change light bulbs as it damn near falls apart during the process.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
The only consideration you should concern yourself with is that you not install a light bulb with so high a wattage that the fixture overheats. The fixture should have a wattage statement such as, Do Not Exceed xxx Watts. Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net - The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
Look at the top and see if there aren't a couple screws up there. I've seen them where the sides stay in place and you reach down through the top to change the bulb. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light No problems with sub degree coldness here, I live in Central California. Hardly ever falls below 32 and the front porch is covered. Now, I have to figure out how to change the light bulb. It is shaped like an octagon with vertical strips of glass about inch and a half wide and about 6 inches high with sheet metal between each strip of glass.. If it's like the one we had at our last home, it's a pain in the ass to change light bulbs as it damn near falls apart during the process. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
Hi, Sometimes the lamp unit has a photocell, which switches on/off at dawn/dusk. However some bulbs also have this unit at the bottom of the bulb. You will know if the bulb has it built in, as the bulb is bulkier than normal. If replacing the bulb doesn't work, perhaps the photocell has blown. I fitted a photocell unit to a metal haylide lamp; the photocell and relay cost only around £8 and the cell itself can be fitted by drilling a hole with the holesaw. The cell has a plastic nut and rubber washers to seal. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: RJ To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light You're right. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
She may be wrong this time but she'll get him another time. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy inthes...@att.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light This won't go over well with the wife, but you are right. The fixture itself is what makes it different. There are seals to keep the water out of the outlet. You can run any bulb that fits the threads in the outlet. This is within reason. Don't plug in a 500 watt halogen bulb, or something like that. Otherwise it takes a normal bulb. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
Really? A photo cell with switching mechanism built right onto the bulb? Wouldn't the light from the bulb convince the sensor it was always daytime? - Original Message - From: Mike Moore To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light Hi, Sometimes the lamp unit has a photocell, which switches on/off at dawn/dusk. However some bulbs also have this unit at the bottom of the bulb. You will know if the bulb has it built in, as the bulb is bulkier than normal. If replacing the bulb doesn't work, perhaps the photocell has blown. I fitted a photocell unit to a metal haylide lamp; the photocell and relay cost only around £8 and the cell itself can be fitted by drilling a hole with the holesaw. The cell has a plastic nut and rubber washers to seal. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: RJ To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light You're right. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
Hi Dale, I have seen some bulbs with the sensor built in but I do not think I would go that direction unless there was no way I could change out the fixture. I have also seen the sensor built into an adaptor which you then screw the bulb into. Cy, The Anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:44 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light Really? A photo cell with switching mechanism built right onto the bulb? Wouldn't the light from the bulb convince the sensor it was always daytime? - Original Message - From: Mike Moore To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light Hi, Sometimes the lamp unit has a photocell, which switches on/off at dawn/dusk. However some bulbs also have this unit at the bottom of the bulb. You will know if the bulb has it built in, as the bulb is bulkier than normal. If replacing the bulb doesn't work, perhaps the photocell has blown. I fitted a photocell unit to a metal haylide lamp; the photocell and relay cost only around £8 and the cell itself can be fitted by drilling a hole with the holesaw. The cell has a plastic nut and rubber washers to seal. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: RJ To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light You're right. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] porch light The light bulb on our front porch went out. Question; being that it has some kind of censor that turns the light on once it gets dark and turns off in the morning when it gets light, is it a special light bulb? My wife thinks so, but I don't think so. I think it'll takes any light bulb providing it fits in the fixture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light
Hi, I've seen some of them having an ornamental threaded piece at the bottom, you loosen it and the surround comes down with it. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light Look at the top and see if there aren't a couple screws up there. I've seen them where the sides stay in place and you reach down through the top to change the bulb. - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch light No problems with sub degree coldness here, I live in Central California. Hardly ever falls below 32 and the front porch is covered. Now, I have to figure out how to change the light bulb. It is shaped like an octagon with vertical strips of glass about inch and a half wide and about 6 inches high with sheet metal between each strip of glass.. If it's like the one we had at our last home, it's a pain in the ass to change light bulbs as it damn near falls apart during the process. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
I can't verify this, but I was once told that gold foil fit on the window will act somewhat as a one way mirror letting in light but reflecting the outside back befuddling peepers. RD - Original Message - From: Rita To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Tom this is food for thought as it would keep out the hot sun. I do think though some light always gives a pleasant atmosphere. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Tom Fowle wrote: Rita, If you really don't care about looks, and don't want light or anything else visie through, then cover the darned glass with good old contact paper, now-a-days it's plastic. You'd probably have to get them pretty clean first, but it can be had in lots of patterns, and if its slick plastic shouldn't hold much dust. Does require some carefull cutting and you have to get it on smooth the first time, but it should last for years. That should drive the sightlings nuts! Tom Fowle __ NOD32 3436 (20080911) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
yeah, get it in a red brick pattern. hahaha On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Tom Fowle wrote: Rita, If you really don't care about looks, and don't want light or anything else visie through, then cover the darned glass with good old contact paper, now-a-days it's plastic. You'd probably have to get them pretty clean first, but it can be had in lots of patterns, and if its slick plastic shouldn't hold much dust. Does require some carefull cutting and you have to get it on smooth the first time, but it should last for years. That should drive the sightlings nuts! Tom Fowle
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
the stained glass idea sounds so cool! On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Rita wrote: Ah this sounds much more to my liking. Thank you Brice. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Brice Mijares wrote: Have you checked out home depot? We bought some rubber like material there a few years ago that you wet and applied to the window. It may have been some kind of plastic, but it's still in good shape, and if I remember correctly, they had it in stained glass.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
I guess that could look very nice and sort of lacy. h. I think I am going with the stained glass look though. Thanks for the suggestion. Rita On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, rs_denis wrote: I can't verify this, but I was once told that gold foil fit on the window will act somewhat as a one way mirror letting in light but reflecting the outside back befuddling peepers. RD - Original Message - From: Rita To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Tom this is food for thought as it would keep out the hot sun. I do think though some light always gives a pleasant atmosphere. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Tom Fowle wrote: Rita, If you really don't care about looks, and don't want light or anything else visie through, then cover the darned glass with good old contact paper, now-a-days it's plastic. You'd probably have to get them pretty clean first, but it can be had in lots of patterns, and if its slick plastic shouldn't hold much dust. Does require some carefull cutting and you have to get it on smooth the first time, but it should last for years. That should drive the sightlings nuts! Tom Fowle __ NOD32 3436 (20080911) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
I agree Spiro. Smile. Rita On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the stained glass idea sounds so cool! On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Rita wrote: Ah this sounds much more to my liking. Thank you Brice. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Brice Mijares wrote: Have you checked out home depot? We bought some rubber like material there a few years ago that you wet and applied to the window. It may have been some kind of plastic, but it's still in good shape, and if I remember correctly, they had it in stained glass.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
Hello Everyone, I just know you all will be able to help me. My Landlady has just had all the porchs in the building painted. Took down my old blinds and now I want a simple window treatment just for privacy. Years ago I saw a film like inside covering which looked a little like stained glass. I cannot find anyone who sells it now. Any ideas? Thank you so much. Rita
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
Rita, the very simple window traeatment is called using twin bed sized bed sheets. easy to set up and easy to clean . Lee On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 01:54:57PM -0500, Rita wrote: Hello Everyone, I just know you all will be able to help me. My Landlady has just had all the porchs in the building painted. Took down my old blinds and now I want a simple window treatment just for privacy. Years ago I saw a film like inside covering which looked a little like stained glass. I cannot find anyone who sells it now. Any ideas? Thank you so much. Rita -- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. -- Simon Cameron There are honest journalists like there are honest politicians. When bought they stay bought. -- Bill Moyers Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
Hi Lee, This is a good idea, but I do want other ideas also. Thanks. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Lee A. Stone wrote: Rita, the very simple window traeatment is called using twin bed sized bed sheets. easy to set up and easy to clean . Lee On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 01:54:57PM -0500, Rita wrote: Hello Everyone, I just know you all will be able to help me. My Landlady has just had all the porchs in the building painted. Took down my old blinds and now I want a simple window treatment just for privacy. Years ago I saw a film like inside covering which looked a little like stained glass. I cannot find anyone who sells it now. Any ideas? Thank you so much. Rita -- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. -- Simon Cameron There are honest journalists like there are honest politicians. When bought they stay bought. -- Bill Moyers Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
Have you checked out home depot? We bought some rubber like material there a few years ago that you wet and applied to the window. It may have been some kind of plastic, but it's still in good shape, and if I remember correctly, they had it in stained glass.
Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows
Ah this sounds much more to my liking. Thank you Brice. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Brice Mijares wrote: Have you checked out home depot? We bought some rubber like material there a few years ago that you wet and applied to the window. It may have been some kind of plastic, but it's still in good shape, and if I remember correctly, they had it in stained glass.
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Rita, Believe it or not those old fashioned roller shades are back in fashion. You can spend anywhere from about $8.00 to $90.00 per window depending upon what you are looking for. You measure the inside width of your windows to be covered and your big box store of choice will custom cut them to your specs. If you are handy, married to somebody who is or can provide a home cooked meal to a starving bachelor installation appears to require a scratch-all, some kind of accessible measuring device and a cordless screw driver. Obviously the job could be done using a traditional screw driver but that might require two home cooked meals depending on the number of windows to be covered. Larry -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rita Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:28 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Ah this sounds much more to my liking. Thank you Brice. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Brice Mijares wrote: Have you checked out home depot? We bought some rubber like material there a few years ago that you wet and applied to the window. It may have been some kind of plastic, but it's still in good shape, and if I remember correctly, they had it in stained glass. Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 206991830) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=206991830m=bb1f89453798c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=206991830m=bb1f89453798c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=206991830m=bb1f89453798c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
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Thank you Larry. Thing of it is this porch has no heat and I'm not interested in fancy looks. Just want privacy for the porch. I will never never again get blinds. They have their little paws out saying let me catch dust. Smile. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Larry Stansifer wrote: Rita, Believe it or not those old fashioned roller shades are back in fashion. You can spend anywhere from about $8.00 to $90.00 per window depending upon what you are looking for. You measure the inside width of your windows to be covered and your big box store of choice will custom cut them to your specs. If you are handy, married to somebody who is or can provide a home cooked meal to a starving bachelor installation appears to require a scratch-all, some kind of accessible measuring device and a cordless screw driver. Obviously the job could be done using a traditional screw driver but that might require two home cooked meals depending on the number of windows to be covered. Larry -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rita Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:28 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Ah this sounds much more to my liking. Thank you Brice. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Brice Mijares wrote: Have you checked out home depot? We bought some rubber like material there a few years ago that you wet and applied to the window. It may have been some kind of plastic, but it's still in good shape, and if I remember correctly, they had it in stained glass. Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 206991830) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=206991830m=bb1f89453798c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=206991830m=bb1f89453798c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=206991830m=bb1f89453798c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
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hi rita try a custom car shop. they have this stuff you put on car and van windows. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi, Hardware stores, building supply stores and sometimes department stores like K-Mart sell rolls of paper backed plastic usually roughened to appear like frosted glass. You pull off the paper and press it onto the carefully cleaned glass. It takes a little care to get it nice and flat and wrinkle free without bubbles although small bubbles can be removed by pricking with a pin and pressing the air out from the periphery toward the pinhole. - Original Message - From: Rita To: blindhandyman Moderator Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Hi Lee, This is a good idea, but I do want other ideas also. Thanks. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Lee A. Stone wrote: Rita, the very simple window traeatment is called using twin bed sized bed sheets. easy to set up and easy to clean . Lee On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 01:54:57PM -0500, Rita wrote: Hello Everyone, I just know you all will be able to help me. My Landlady has just had all the porchs in the building painted. Took down my old blinds and now I want a simple window treatment just for privacy. Years ago I saw a film like inside covering which looked a little like stained glass. I cannot find anyone who sells it now. Any ideas? Thank you so much. Rita -- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. -- Simon Cameron There are honest journalists like there are honest politicians. When bought they stay bought. -- Bill Moyers Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Rita, If you really don't care about looks, and don't want light or anything else visie through, then cover the darned glass with good old contact paper, now-a-days it's plastic. You'd probably have to get them pretty clean first, but it can be had in lots of patterns, and if its slick plastic shouldn't hold much dust. Does require some carefull cutting and you have to get it on smooth the first time, but it should last for years. That should drive the sightlings nuts! Tom Fowle
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Well come to that you could paint them over but it would be dark. There are paints though and etching solutions too. I made a barrister's book case a couple of years ago with glass doors which a daughter and a son made stencils to fit then etched through the stencil to form a sort of scroll work imitating the cast iron on the bench. Light comes through but image behind is distorted by the texture etched into the glass. the etching solution was purchased at a local craft store. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Rita, If you really don't care about looks, and don't want light or anything else visie through, then cover the darned glass with good old contact paper, now-a-days it's plastic. You'd probably have to get them pretty clean first, but it can be had in lots of patterns, and if its slick plastic shouldn't hold much dust. Does require some carefull cutting and you have to get it on smooth the first time, but it should last for years. That should drive the sightlings nuts! Tom Fowle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Rita, Automotive window tinting is a great idea however, it is a major pain in the 32nd vertebrae to install. You need to keep it extremely wet during the initial installation process and as it dries you will need to squeegee out bubbles and wrinkles. The glass must be extremely and I mean extremely clean before beginning and the sheets of tint must be cut to the precise dimensions of the glass they are to cover. If you are hell bent to tint those windows, Email me off list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and maybe I can help talk you through that project. *don't try this one at home kids* -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cheetah Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:23 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows hi rita try a custom car shop. they have this stuff you put on car and van windows. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 207004950) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=207004950m=04f49b5015c9c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=207004950m=04f49b5015c9c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=207004950m=04f49b5015c9c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
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Jim that is a thought. Thank you. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, cheetah wrote: hi rita try a custom car shop. they have this stuff you put on car and van windows. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thank you for these additional resources Dale. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Dale Leavens wrote: Hi, Hardware stores, building supply stores and sometimes department stores like K-Mart sell rolls of paper backed plastic usually roughened to appear like frosted glass. You pull off the paper and press it onto the carefully cleaned glass. It takes a little care to get it nice and flat and wrinkle free without bubbles although small bubbles can be removed by pricking with a pin and pressing the air out from the periphery toward the pinhole. - Original Message - From: Rita To: blindhandyman Moderator Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Hi Lee, This is a good idea, but I do want other ideas also. Thanks. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Lee A. Stone wrote: Rita, the very simple window traeatment is called using twin bed sized bed sheets. easy to set up and easy to clean . Lee On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 01:54:57PM -0500, Rita wrote: Hello Everyone, I just know you all will be able to help me. My Landlady has just had all the porchs in the building painted. Took down my old blinds and now I want a simple window treatment just for privacy. Years ago I saw a film like inside covering which looked a little like stained glass. I cannot find anyone who sells it now. Any ideas? Thank you so much. Rita -- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. -- Simon Cameron There are honest journalists like there are honest politicians. When bought they stay bought. -- Bill Moyers Come and chat with me at #quietzone on irc.newnet.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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For a short term answer, smear the windows with liquid soap. It will dry cloudy and give you a little privacy while you determine your options. :) You could also add a little washable paint for color if you want. this is actually something done for kid fun, but i think might be a creative answer here. Jennifer - Original Message - From: Rita To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Jim that is a thought. Thank you. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, cheetah wrote: hi rita try a custom car shop. they have this stuff you put on car and van windows. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Oh thank you Larry, but simple is my middle name and I am not at all a handy person. I appreciate your offer though. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Larry Stansifer wrote: Rita, Automotive window tinting is a great idea however, it is a major pain in the 32nd vertebrae to install. You need to keep it extremely wet during the initial installation process and as it dries you will need to squeegee out bubbles and wrinkles. The glass must be extremely and I mean extremely clean before beginning and the sheets of tint must be cut to the precise dimensions of the glass they are to cover. If you are hell bent to tint those windows, Email me off list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and maybe I can help talk you through that project. *don't try this one at home kids* -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cheetah Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:23 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows hi rita try a custom car shop. they have this stuff you put on car and van windows. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 207004950) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=207004950m=04f49b5015c9c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=207004950m=04f49b5015c9c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=207004950m=04f49b5015c9c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
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I can just see the rainbow of colors and creative designs if I had the six children in the building work on those windows. Guess they would have a grand time though. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Jennifer Jackson wrote: For a short term answer, smear the windows with liquid soap. It will dry cloudy and give you a little privacy while you determine your options. :) You could also add a little washable paint for color if you want. this is actually something done for kid fun, but i think might be a creative answer here. Jennifer - Original Message - From: Rita To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Jim that is a thought. Thank you. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, cheetah wrote: hi rita try a custom car shop. they have this stuff you put on car and van windows. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Jennifer I meant to mention what truly good ideas you had. remember that cake of chalky white stuff that began with a B people used to wash windows? Guess that would work. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Jennifer Jackson wrote: For a short term answer, smear the windows with liquid soap. It will dry cloudy and give you a little privacy while you determine your options. :) You could also add a little washable paint for color if you want. this is actually something done for kid fun, but i think might be a creative answer here. Jennifer - Original Message - From: Rita To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] porch windows Jim that is a thought. Thank you. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, cheetah wrote: hi rita try a custom car shop. they have this stuff you put on car and van windows. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Tom this is food for thought as it would keep out the hot sun. I do think though some light always gives a pleasant atmosphere. Rita On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Tom Fowle wrote: Rita, If you really don't care about looks, and don't want light or anything else visie through, then cover the darned glass with good old contact paper, now-a-days it's plastic. You'd probably have to get them pretty clean first, but it can be had in lots of patterns, and if its slick plastic shouldn't hold much dust. Does require some carefull cutting and you have to get it on smooth the first time, but it should last for years. That should drive the sightlings nuts! Tom Fowle
[BlindHandyMan] Porch
Ok guys, I guess it is my turn to take a shot at some of this here Bob Vila home improvement stuff. I just purchased an investment property that needs a little work. I have already done a hot-water heater, a toilet and sink and the troops are finishing up the vinal flooring and carpeting to-day. Not about to tackle that one, pure black magic in my book. My next undertaking is going to be the front porch. It is 8 feet wide and 16 feet long with steps leading up to either end of it. The construction is a 2x8 framework on what I think you guys call 4 foot centers. The attaching board on the side of the house, the 2x8 running the 8 foot width to another big ass plank and the supporting 4x4s all appear to be in really good shape. The problem is the 3/4 plywood decking. moisture has gotten between the indoor-outdoor carpeting and the decking and it is getting a bit weak. Replacing the decking appears to be pretty strait foreword even for a guy who just recently learned how to spell wood. My question is how the hell do I lay out the steps? The ones that are there now look like they were hung on as an after thought and I really don't want to try to use them as a template. This is way different than anything I have ever attempted so please laugh quietly and keep the directions on a remedial level. Trust me gang... if the contractor that built my deck for me in trade for a transmission rebuild needed any work on his Corvette we wouldn't be having this conversation. Tools, I own a circular saw of unknown origin, a saws-all, a 14 inch chop saw a Dewalt cordless 18.8 volt drill and a whole bunch of tools that won't work on wood. *Enjoy the laugh and thanks for any help you can provide.* Regards Larry Stansifer Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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For all the more it cost to buy the jacks pre cut, I suggest you buy them. Just measure the Height and the width you have for the steps and let the lumber yard worry about it. I believe it cost me about $1.50 a jack more than if I would have cut them myself . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Ok, Let me get this clear. If I go to my local lumber-yard/home improvement store and tell them I have 6 steps, 4 feet long, 8 inches high and 1 foot wide with a drop of 4 feet from porch surface to the ground. The guy will disappear and come back with steps that even I can assemble? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:33 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch For all the more it cost to buy the jacks pre cut, I suggest you buy them. Just measure the Height and the width you have for the steps and let the lumber yard worry about it. I believe it cost me about $1.50 a jack more than if I would have cut them myself . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 66694022) is spam: Spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=si=66694022m=6b b3c6d17231 Not spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=ni=66694022m=6b b3c6d17231 Forget vote: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=fi=66694022m=6b b3c6d17231 -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Let him know the height say 4 feet. Now let's say the width you have is 6 feet where the step will end. You will give him that dimension 4: x 6:. He should be able to give you a set of jacks to fit the space. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Ok, Let me get this clear. If I go to my local lumber-yard/home improvement store and tell them I have 6 steps, 4 feet long, 8 inches high and 1 foot wide with a drop of 4 feet from porch surface to the ground. The guy will disappear and come back with steps that even I can assemble? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:33 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch For all the more it cost to buy the jacks pre cut, I suggest you buy them. Just measure the Height and the width you have for the steps and let the lumber yard worry about it. I believe it cost me about $1.50 a jack more than if I would have cut them myself . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM -- ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 66694022) is spam: Spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=si=66694022m=6b b3c6d17231 Not spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=ni=66694022m=6b b3c6d17231 Forget vote: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=fi=66694022m=6b b3c6d17231 -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Ok guys, I guess it is my turn to take a shot at some of this here Bob Vila home improvement stuff. I just purchased an investment property that needs a little work. I have already done a hot-water heater, a toilet and sink and the troops are finishing up the vinal flooring and carpeting to-day. Not about to tackle that one, pure black magic in my book. My next undertaking is going to be the front porch. It is 8 feet wide and 16 feet long with steps leading up to either end of it. The construction is a 2x8 framework on what I think you guys call 4 foot centers. The attaching board on the side of the house, the 2x8 running the 8 foot width to another big ass plank and the supporting 4x4s all appear to be in really good shape. The problem is the 3/4 plywood decking. moisture has gotten between the indoor-outdoor carpeting and the decking and it is getting a bit weak. Replacing the decking appears to be pretty strait foreword even for a guy who just recently learned how to spell wood. My question is how the hell do I lay out the steps? The ones that are there now look like they were hung on as an after thought and I really don't want to try to use them as a template. This is way different than anything I have ever attempted so please laugh quietly and keep the directions on a remedial level. Trust me gang... if the contractor that built my deck for me in trade for a transmission rebuild needed any work on his Corvette we wouldn't be having this conversation. Tools, I own a circular saw of unknown origin, a saws-all, a 14 inch chop saw a Dewalt cordless 18.8 volt drill and a whole bunch of tools that won't work on wood. *Enjoy the laugh and thanks for any help you can provide.* Regards Larry Stansifer To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: 23/02/2007 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Porch
Damn... I am starting to feel stupid. What is a jack other than the one you raise a car on? Is this the entire step assembly or do I need to cut the upright and step parts in addition to this jack? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:21 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Let him know the height say 4 feet. Now let's say the width you have is 6 feet where the step will end. You will give him that dimension 4: x 6:. He should be able to give you a set of jacks to fit the space. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Ok, Let me get this clear. If I go to my local lumber-yard/home improvement store and tell them I have 6 steps, 4 feet long, 8 inches high and 1 foot wide with a drop of 4 feet from porch surface to the ground. The guy will disappear and come back with steps that even I can assemble? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:33 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch For all the more it cost to buy the jacks pre cut, I suggest you buy them. Just measure the Height and the width you have for the steps and let the lumber yard worry about it. I believe it cost me about $1.50 a jack more than if I would have cut them myself . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM -- ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 66704575) is spam: Spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=si=66704575m=f8 86212649fc Not spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=ni=66704575m=f8 86212649fc Forget vote: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=fi=66704575m=f8 86212649fc -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files
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The plastic decking must be at a minimum of 16 inch centers or it will belly out. I personally don't like the stuff, even if it does save work of treating it every so often. RJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch
Larry, They are called risers or jacks. It is the 2 x 12 that you cut out for the steps. Some people use 2 x 10, which I don't care for. RJ - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Damn... I am starting to feel stupid. What is a jack other than the one you raise a car on? Is this the entire step assembly or do I need to cut the upright and step parts in addition to this jack? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:21 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Let him know the height say 4 feet. Now let's say the width you have is 6 feet where the step will end. You will give him that dimension 4: x 6:. He should be able to give you a set of jacks to fit the space. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Ok, Let me get this clear. If I go to my local lumber-yard/home improvement store and tell them I have 6 steps, 4 feet long, 8 inches high and 1 foot wide with a drop of 4 feet from porch surface to the ground. The guy will disappear and come back with steps that even I can assemble? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:33 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch For all the more it cost to buy the jacks pre cut, I suggest you buy them. Just measure the Height and the width you have for the steps and let the lumber yard worry about it. I believe it cost me about $1.50 a jack more than if I would have cut them myself . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM -- ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM -- ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach Infowest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 66704575) is spam: Spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=si=66704575m=f8 86212649fc Not spam: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=ni=66704575m=f8 86212649fc Forget vote: http://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?c=fi=66704575m=f8 86212649fc -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA
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I thought the side pieces were called stringers and the part that you kicked your foot into, climbing the steps are called risers. I think the board you step on is a tread. earlier, rj, wrote: Larry, They are called risers or jacks. It is the 2 x 12 that you cut out for the steps. Some people use 2 x 10, which I don't care for. RJ - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Damn... I am starting to feel stupid. What is a jack other than the one you raise a car on? Is this the entire step assembly or do I need to cut the upright and step parts in addition to this jack? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:21 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Let him know the height say 4 feet. Now let's say the width you have is 6 feet where the step will end. You will give him that dimension 4: x 6:. He should be able to give you a set of jacks to fit the space. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Porch Ok, Let me get this clear. If I go to my local lumber-yard/home improvement store and tell them I have 6 steps, 4 feet long, 8 inches high and 1 foot wide with a drop of 4 feet from porch surface to the ground. The guy will disappear and come back with steps that even I can assemble? Regards Larry Stansifer -Original Message- From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rj Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:33 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Porch For all the more it cost to buy the jacks pre cut, I suggest you buy them. Just measure the Height and the width you have for the steps and let the lumber yard worry about it. I believe it cost me about $1.50 a jack more than if I would have cut them myself . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TMhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM -- ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.htmlhttp://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturdayhttp://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xmlhttp://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TMhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM -- ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.htmlhttp://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturdayhttp://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xmlhttp://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/http://www.mail
