RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
If he has a bumper to bumper warranty. It will be covered for example a bumper to bumper warranty for 5 years or 100,00 miles or witch ever comes first. But it has to be a bumper to bumper warranty. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:48 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys An alternator is part of the electrical system, not the power train. You can always check but I've never heard of one being covered for the same time as the engine. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys If that is the problem, I wonder if it would be covered under the power train warranty? - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to furnish and install the alternator themselves. I paid them $25 to diagnose the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and installing it myself. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an hour. Pproblem was fixed. . -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ p PAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to furnish and install the alternator themselves. I paid them $25 to diagnose the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and installing it myself. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an hour. Pproblem was fixed. . -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ p PAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
If that is the problem, I wonder if it would be covered under the power train warranty? - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to furnish and install the alternator themselves. I paid them $25 to diagnose the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and installing it myself. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an hour. Pproblem was fixed. . -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ p PAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 4762 (20100111) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
She drives that route at least once a month. The next time I want her to look for the problem. It is quite possible that she never noticed it before. It lasted about 2 seconds. - Original Message - From: Ron Yearns ryea...@sbcglobal.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Just wondered if this was a route she takes often. My wife used to drive by a AirForce radar base and quite often the electronic dash would go berserk or out I don't remember which so perhaps some r f can do strange things. But I am with others, wait until it happens at least two more times and make sure it isn't at the same location. Ron - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 4762 (20100111) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
An alternator is part of the electrical system, not the power train. You can always check but I've never heard of one being covered for the same time as the engine. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys If that is the problem, I wonder if it would be covered under the power train warranty? - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to furnish and install the alternator themselves. I paid them $25 to diagnose the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and installing it myself. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an hour. Pproblem was fixed. . -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ p PAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 4762 (20100111
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
I wouldn't worry yet. Sometimes a drop of water hitting the computer can cause trouble like this. I'd mark it up as a freak until it happens again. You'll pay a fortune to have someone look at the electrical system and then get a big CDP, can't duplicate problem on the service order. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Bob, This is an excellent point. My experience with auto, or computer repair is unless you can duplicate the problem or there are certain predictable things that happen before it occurs, more often than not the repair shop can't find out what's wrong. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:30 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys I wouldn't worry yet. Sometimes a drop of water hitting the computer can cause trouble like this. I'd mark it up as a freak until it happens again. You'll pay a fortune to have someone look at the electrical system and then get a big CDP, can't duplicate problem on the service order. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAG E_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAG E_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an hour. Pproblem was fixed. . -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
I would trust a blind man or woman on a computer before I would let someone from Dodge touch it. Lee On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:48:14AM -0500, Alan Terrie Robbins wrote: Bob, This is an excellent point. My experience with auto, or computer repair is unless you can duplicate the problem or there are certain predictable things that happen before it occurs, more often than not the repair shop can't find out what's wrong. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:30 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys I wouldn't worry yet. Sometimes a drop of water hitting the computer can cause trouble like this. I'd mark it up as a freak until it happens again. You'll pay a fortune to have someone look at the electrical system and then get a big CDP, can't duplicate problem on the service order. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAG E_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAG E_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining
[BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Hi Lenny I would get the computer checked out, if a problem did happened the code will show up on the computer indicating that particular part is a problem. Or you can ask a question on line here http://www.justanswer.com/car/dodge?r=ppc|ga|4|Cars|DodgeJCRN=Dodge+Mechani csJPKW=dodge%202003JPDC=SJPST=JPAD=3197640480JPAF=txtJPCD=20090212-1J PRC=1gclid=CMGwzt6GmZ8CFQIupAodu2jvJQ -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:24 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the system. --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
the rotors are so cheaply made these days i will not even tern them at my shop if the customer don't want new one's i will not even do the job its not worth it to me if the shop tries to make you pay again simply tern them in to the state also tell them you want your old parts - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys I will also ask about that. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys No one has mentioned the anti-lock breaks? Why they should become a problem under those circumstances I don't know but I do know that they do shimmy when applied if not working correctly and in some models even when working apparently correctly. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Bob, yes it is when she applies the breaks. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Just to be clear, she feels it while driving or while braking? If it's just while driving and not using the brakes, we are all off base. That would go back to the balancing of the tires, or it's possible a belt has shifted in a tire and that has to be replaced real quick. A shifted belt causes tremendous heat and will explode the tire. It's possible a balance weight wasn't completely mounted and has come off through centrifugal force. We have to be clear on whether it is a braking or regular driving condition in any event to head in the right direction. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, not sure how to describe it. I just asked Karen and she said it feels like a chatter in both the break peddle and steering wheel when she applies the break. It is very slight at 25 but very prominate at 45 or 50. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Well that narrows it down. But since the work was just done I'd take it back and see what they are willing to do. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, yes it is when she applies the breaks. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Just to be clear, she feels it while driving or while braking? If it's just while driving and not using the brakes, we are all off base. That would go back to the balancing of the tires, or it's possible a belt has shifted in a tire and that has to be replaced real quick. A shifted belt causes tremendous heat and will explode the tire. It's possible a balance weight wasn't completely mounted and has come off through centrifugal force. We have to be clear on whether it is a braking or regular driving condition in any event to head in the right direction. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, not sure how to describe it. I just asked Karen and she said it feels like a chatter in both the break peddle and steering wheel when she applies the break. It is very slight at 25 but very prominate at 45 or 50. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
We have an 8:00 AM appointment Monday - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Well that narrows it down. But since the work was just done I'd take it back and see what they are willing to do. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, yes it is when she applies the breaks. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Just to be clear, she feels it while driving or while braking? If it's just while driving and not using the brakes, we are all off base. That would go back to the balancing of the tires, or it's possible a belt has shifted in a tire and that has to be replaced real quick. A shifted belt causes tremendous heat and will explode the tire. It's possible a balance weight wasn't completely mounted and has come off through centrifugal force. We have to be clear on whether it is a braking or regular driving condition in any event to head in the right direction. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, not sure how to describe it. I just asked Karen and she said it feels like a chatter in both the break peddle and steering wheel when she applies the break. It is very slight at 25 but very prominate at 45 or 50. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Sounds like hard spots in the rotor to me. Does she feel a pulsing on the brake pedal? Ward - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, not sure how to describe it. I just asked Karen and she said it feels like a chatter in both the break peddle and steering wheel when she applies the break. It is very slight at 25 but very prominate at 45 or 50. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
yes, also in the steering wheel - Original Message - From: Ward Kathy Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Sounds like hard spots in the rotor to me. Does she feel a pulsing on the brake pedal? Ward - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, not sure how to describe it. I just asked Karen and she said it feels like a chatter in both the break peddle and steering wheel when she applies the break. It is very slight at 25 but very prominate at 45 or 50. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op
[BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Lenny, Did they turn the rotors when you had the brakes done the last time? In my unhumble professional opinion not turning or replacing rotors when doing pads is akin to not using toilet paper. If they were turned once you can probably plan on replacing them. There is a minimum thickness that brake rotors can be machined to, I think it is 10MM. Warped or thin rotors is probably the vibration she is feeling. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:44 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 200308578) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
hi blenny when you installed your brakes did you rotate and balance the tires I had a similar problem and that along with a front end alignment took care of the vibrations now she is smooth now there's your weekend project good luck Allen - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
I agree with Lary and will add this; Check that all your lug nuts are tightened to the proper torque. I had some young kid working at the garage where I get mine inspected, over tighten the lug nuts and had a similar vibration. One other thing, check to make sure they tightened the caliper . A loose caliper could cause a chatter when the brakes are applied. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 19:00 Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Lenny, Did they turn the rotors when you had the brakes done the last time? In my unhumble professional opinion not turning or replacing rotors when doing pads is akin to not using toilet paper. If they were turned once you can probably plan on replacing them. There is a minimum thickness that brake rotors can be machined to, I think it is 10MM. Warped or thin rotors is probably the vibration she is feeling. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:44 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 200308578) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thanks, That is what I thought. I don't know if they turned them or not. It took about 300 miles for it to start. I suspect that they are now warped. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Lenny, Did they turn the rotors when you had the brakes done the last time? In my unhumble professional opinion not turning or replacing rotors when doing pads is akin to not using toilet paper. If they were turned once you can probably plan on replacing them. There is a minimum thickness that brake rotors can be machined to, I think it is 10MM. Warped or thin rotors is probably the vibration she is feeling. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:44 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 200308578) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3357 (20080814) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
The tires were rotated and balanced. Karen just told me that it is now doing it at a lower speed 25 mph. Monday it goes to a garage - Original Message - From: allen dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys hi blenny when you installed your brakes did you rotate and balance the tires I had a similar problem and that along with a front end alignment took care of the vibrations now she is smooth now there's your weekend project good luck Allen - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3357 (20080814) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Thanks, I will talk to them about that. - Original Message - From: NLG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys I agree with Lary and will add this; Check that all your lug nuts are tightened to the proper torque. I had some young kid working at the garage where I get mine inspected, over tighten the lug nuts and had a similar vibration. One other thing, check to make sure they tightened the caliper . A loose caliper could cause a chatter when the brakes are applied. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 19:00 Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Lenny, Did they turn the rotors when you had the brakes done the last time? In my unhumble professional opinion not turning or replacing rotors when doing pads is akin to not using toilet paper. If they were turned once you can probably plan on replacing them. There is a minimum thickness that brake rotors can be machined to, I think it is 10MM. Warped or thin rotors is probably the vibration she is feeling. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:44 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 200308578) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=200308578m=148e77daecd3c=f REMEMBER: Never give out your account information, password, or other personal information over e-mail. -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3357 (20080814) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Lenny, Let them know in a nice way that you are aware of the minimum federally allowed thickness for a brake rotor and yours better not be there. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:17 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys The tires were rotated and balanced. Karen just told me that it is now doing it at a lower speed 25 mph. Monday it goes to a garage - Original Message - From: allen dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys hi blenny when you installed your brakes did you rotate and balance the tires I had a similar problem and that along with a front end alignment took care of the vibrations now she is smooth now there's your weekend project good luck Allen - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op= view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3357 (20080814) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Lenny, not evenly torqueing the lug nuts will cause rotors to warp. Not saying this is your problem but thought I would put that thought out. Art - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1612 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:03 PM Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Lenny, If the rotors are warped, the bad news is that the pads are now garbage. One should not put used pads with new or turned rotors. Art - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:28 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Lenny, Let them know in a nice way that you are aware of the minimum federally allowed thickness for a brake rotor and yours better not be there. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:17 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys The tires were rotated and balanced. Karen just told me that it is now doing it at a lower speed 25 mph. Monday it goes to a garage - Original Message - From: allen dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys hi blenny when you installed your brakes did you rotate and balance the tires I had a similar problem and that along with a front end alignment took care of the vibrations now she is smooth now there's your weekend project good luck Allen - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op= view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3357 (20080814) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Bob, not sure how to describe it. I just asked Karen and she said it feels like a chatter in both the break peddle and steering wheel when she applies the break. It is very slight at 25 but very prominate at 45 or 50. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
No one has mentioned the anti-lock breaks? Why they should become a problem under those circumstances I don't know but I do know that they do shimmy when applied if not working correctly and in some models even when working apparently correctly. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
I will also ask about that. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys No one has mentioned the anti-lock breaks? Why they should become a problem under those circumstances I don't know but I do know that they do shimmy when applied if not working correctly and in some models even when working apparently correctly. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From
Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
Just to be clear, she feels it while driving or while braking? If it's just while driving and not using the brakes, we are all off base. That would go back to the balancing of the tires, or it's possible a belt has shifted in a tire and that has to be replaced real quick. A shifted belt causes tremendous heat and will explode the tire. It's possible a balance weight wasn't completely mounted and has come off through centrifugal force. We have to be clear on whether it is a braking or regular driving condition in any event to head in the right direction. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys Bob, not sure how to describe it. I just asked Karen and she said it feels like a chatter in both the break peddle and steering wheel when she applies the break. It is very slight at 25 but very prominate at 45 or 50. - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys A long shot but I bought new tires once and had a bad vibration right afterwards. When I got home I popped the cap off and found the problem right off. The idiot put the lugs on backwards so the tapered end faced away from the wheel... Diagnosing by email is much harder. By vibration we need to get a bit more specific. A warped rotor doesn't vibrate at 25 to 40, it feels more like jerking. A smooth run, a jerk or bump and a smooth run again. The bumping or jerking gets slower obviously as you slow down. I could happen, especially if the rotors got turned too thin the last time. I've known some um well idiots is really too nice a word. But I've known of people that read the specs on the brake lathe and think that is what the first cut should be. If the lathe says it can cut 90 thousandths in one pass then by god that's what you have to do. 90 thousandths off any rotor will put it under the minimum. If it is thin and slammed home with a tire gun they can warp fairly quickly. Not a couple weeks I wouldn't think though. I have known the outer pad to be put on without either putting the anti vibration glue on, or not bending the tabs to keep the pad tightly in place. Those situations cause a vibration that is often loud as well. When the brakes are applied you hear sometimes a squealing or a humming type sound. That isn't nearly as dangerous as it is annoying. But since it started after brake work, I'd take it back and see what they offer. One thing you can do on your own is to take a wrench to the lugs and make sure they tightened them all. 1 left loose won't cause a serious problem, I have had to run a race car on 3 lugs on 1 wheel before. But that isn't the brightest way to go. Take a torque wrench if you have one and 75 to 80 footpounds will keep the wheels on. If you don't have a torque wrench, take a socket or something and make sure everything is tight. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys We have a 2003 grand caravan sport all wheel drive. Two weeks ago for inspection it needed breaks at the same time I upgraded the break fluid to dot 5.1 and also had the tires rotated. Now about 45 mph when Karen applies the break she can feel a chatter or vibration. When she first said it was shaking at that speed I thought she lost a balancing weight. I now suspect rotors. Is there anything that can cause a rotor go bad after about two weeks after installing new breaks? The vehicle has about 40,000 miles and the rotors were cut around 25,000 miles. Got to get this thing fixed quickly, next week we are taking my grandson to Canada to see the falls. Lenny Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL
