Re: Any Currently Working Weather Apps?

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Thanks Tony-and-all: My other anoying issue with "wx" script, it stops like 
half-way through the forecast, so I must type "wx -x" and type airport codes 
directly. And lastly some of you can see, I changed my first name to

Chime

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
> I am a firm believer in synchronicity.
> What makes your post hug worthy is that I was just wondering about
> archives.org.  Reasoning being that sometimes a writer decides, either by
> accident or intention to delete all their fanfiction.net  work.  I recently
> found an hp  story by such a writer, wondered about their other creations,
> and thoughth wonder if archives.org has anything?
> That was last night,  I check mail this morning to find your post.

If you happen to use the Chromium or Google Chrome browsers, there's
an extension you might try that lets you search your choice of six or
seven different web archives. I use it every day.


Best regards,

Paul

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Re: command line fan fiction program?

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I'm afraid their navigation could use work, so I usually do google
searches and add "site:archive.org" to my query.

-tim

On April 18, 2017, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> Any tips for getting around archives.org?  Somebody recommended it
> to me a few weeks ago, so I gave it a quick shot.  I was looking
> for old-time radio stuff.  I failed to find anything, for all the
> crawling around I did.  I'll therefore be grateful for any pointers
> on using it.
> 
> Al
> 
> On 4/18/2017 9:29 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > Tony,
> > I am a firm believer in synchronicity.
> > What makes your post hug worthy is that I was just wondering about
> > archives.org.  Reasoning being that sometimes a writer decides,
> > either by accident or intention to delete all their
> > fanfiction.net  work.  I recently found an hp  story by such a
> > writer, wondered about their other creations, and
> > thoughth wonder if archives.org has anything? That was
> > last night,  I check mail this morning to find your post. So...
> > *hugs*
> > Thanks!
> > Kare
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Tony Baechler wrote:
> >
> >> Again, as usual, sorry for the lateness, but search for
> >> fanfiction on archive.org. Archive Team uploaded a huge dump of
> >> the fanfiction.net site, perfect for offline reading, assuming
> >> it's still there. Be warned that it's very huge! Don't download
> >> on a slow connection or with limited disk space. I'm not sure if
> >> new stuff is added and I don't remember the upload date offhand,
> >> so probably a few years old by now, but still a huge amount of
> >> reading material. It's a full or nearly complete site dump, so
> >> should be navigable with any browser.
> >>
> >> On 3/22/2017 6:00 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
> >>>  (yes, both your original post and your nudge came through)
> >>>
> >>>  Am I missing something in particular?  I visited the site in
> >>>  Lynx-the-cat and was able to get to a number of the fanfic
> >>> works without any issue.  Just to sample, I went in by Movie
> >>> and sampled some of the X-Men works, and went in by TV Show and
> >>> sampled some of the M*A*S*H works.  They all came back as HTML.
> >>>
> >>>  If you're looking for a scraper, the classic "wget" tool should
> >>>  provide the ability to scrape a subset of the site.  You might
> >>> then have to do some post-cleanup if you don't want all the
> >>> site-related periphery.
> >>>
> >>>  -tim
> >>>
> >>>  On March 22, 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >>> >  there is a site  called fan fiction.
> >>> >  www.fanfiction.net
> >>> >  A very long time ago it was possible to download items
> >>> > there, but now one must use a third party application.
> >>> >  I am wondering if there is a command line tool, something
> >>> > that might be a part of the Ubuntu distribution since that is
> >>> > what I have both at shellworld and via dreamhost that can get
> >>> > the works converting them into well anything?
> >>> >  via robobraille I can convert both epub and pdf into  text.
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Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

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Hi,


It's a good idea, indeed. FYI, Debian has started a such project in Blends:

http://blends.debian.org/accessibility


Maybe it can be a point of beginning of a packages list with a tree?


Alternatively, to create a kind of structure of packages with deps, we
can use a wiki such as

http://trac.clfs.org/wiki/cblfs#CBLFS


Regards,




Le 18/04/2017 à 17:23, Eric Oyen a écrit :
> here is one thing that might be distro independent: create an accessibility 
> package set. This would include the required libs, scripts, binaries and 
> config files needed to make any distro accessible. It would include 
> emacspeak, BrlTTY, ORCA, the appropriate audio drivers and libraries and even 
> access to the kernel modules required to make it all work.
>
> Now, since some of the packages needed will be dependencies for other things 
> (like sound and scripting like python), it shouldn't be all that difficult to 
> gather everything else. 
>
> Having this setup so that any distro can be made accessible would definitely 
> be a plus. Honestly, making this a standard package set will go a long way 
> toward allowing us access to any distro, regardless of package management 
> system, layout or Desktop environment.
>
> -eric
>
> On Apr 18, 2017, at 7:28 AM, John G Heim wrote:
>
>> Just fedora? Not vidora or something like that? Hey, if you guys end up 
>> calling your distro vidora, I want credit. :-)
>>
>> I look at the debate over whether it is better to have a distro for the 
>> blind or to work on improving mainstream distros like the debate over barley 
>> versus wheat beers. Personally, I prefer barley beers over any and all wheat 
>> beers. But if someone wants to brew a wheat beer, it's fine with me and I'd 
>> even help out if they asked. It's a matter of good and better. In other 
>> words, my opinion is that even if you think it would be better if these 
>> developers spent their time on mainstream distros, we should all still 
>> recognize that what they are doing is really helpful.  Don't let the perfect 
>> be the enemy of the good.
>>
>> On 04/18/2017 08:45 AM, Jude dDaShiell wrote:
>>> Last i read, both sonargnulinux and vinux were in the process of merging
>>> into Fedora and that first release was supposed to have happened
>>> sometime in April 2017 and would be called Fedora 26.0.  What has
>>> happened since then I do not now know.
>>>
>>> Sent from BlueMail  for iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Tony Baechler >> > wrote:
>>> Sorry for the late reply, but see comments below.
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2017 3:36 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
 Eric Oyen wrote:

> ...we, as a community, don't have an actual unified distro
> to call our own. Sure, Vinux is a decent distro, but it's
> lacking a lot of useful features outside of accessibility.
>>> OK, but why do we, as a community, need a special distro? Yes, it's free
>>> software, so there is certainly nothing stopping you as long as you realize
>>> it's your pet distro along with the about 300 others on distrowatch.com
>>> . I
>>> would much rather have a popular, mainstream distro which includes great
>>> accessibility like Debian and derivatives.
>>>
 I'm not sure how things are at present, but in the past,
 Debian has shown some commitment to supporting
 accessibility[1], including at the installer level[2].
>>> Yes, Debian still supports accessibility. Every alpha release of D-I has
>>> accessibility features and fixes.
>>>
 This is not the same as a special-purpose distribution, and
 I think the pages were written some time ago. Still I would
 think that some effort would be worthwhile, and would
 benefit all Debian derivatives, which could include
 a accessbility-centric distribution.

 1. https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility
 2. https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility
>>> These pages should be fairly current and are often updated by Debian
>>> developers like Samuel Thibault.
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Re: spammers on this list

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Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer,  we have 
proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list.
Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to blinux list, 
replacing it with the list address.


This should stop email address harvesting and spamming.

Best Regards
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On 18.04.2017 19:44, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote:

As I understand it, RedHat is just providing the hosting and has
nothing to do with the actual operation of the list, and since most of
the list's functionality is completely automated, there might not even
be a flesh and blood person behind whatever e-mail serves as the list
owner.

Whether the spammer is using the e-mail addresses attached to
individual messages as they're sent to subscribers or e-mail addresses
taken from the latest archived posts is probably impossible to tell,
but I deduce that the spam is being sent to individual poster's e-mail
addresses rather than the list itself and are independant of
legitimate post volume since I only get spam when I reply to a thread
and get a slew of the spam messages even if I was the last poster.

Banning Amy might work if she's getting the e-mail addresses from
messages landing in her inbox, but if the e-mail adresses are coming
from the archives or a second e-mail account subscribed to the list, I
don't think anything short of changing the list's configuration to not
include the sender's e-mail in either ther e-mails sent to individual
subscribers or the archives, and doing so would probably be necessary
to stop all future spam attempts that don't rely on being a
subscriber, and even if there is a flesh and blood person behind the
e-mail that serves as list owner, the list software might not allow
such.

That said, I accepted long ago that the only way to avoid spam e-mail
altogether is to not use e-mail at all just as the only foolproof
means of avoiding telemarketers is to not have a phone.



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Re: spammers on this list

[Jeffery Mewtamer]

As I understand it, RedHat is just providing the hosting and has
nothing to do with the actual operation of the list, and since most of
the list's functionality is completely automated, there might not even
be a flesh and blood person behind whatever e-mail serves as the list
owner.

Whether the spammer is using the e-mail addresses attached to
individual messages as they're sent to subscribers or e-mail addresses
taken from the latest archived posts is probably impossible to tell,
but I deduce that the spam is being sent to individual poster's e-mail
addresses rather than the list itself and are independant of
legitimate post volume since I only get spam when I reply to a thread
and get a slew of the spam messages even if I was the last poster.

Banning Amy might work if she's getting the e-mail addresses from
messages landing in her inbox, but if the e-mail adresses are coming
from the archives or a second e-mail account subscribed to the list, I
don't think anything short of changing the list's configuration to not
include the sender's e-mail in either ther e-mails sent to individual
subscribers or the archives, and doing so would probably be necessary
to stop all future spam attempts that don't rely on being a
subscriber, and even if there is a flesh and blood person behind the
e-mail that serves as list owner, the list software might not allow
such.

That said, I accepted long ago that the only way to avoid spam e-mail
altogether is to not use e-mail at all just as the only foolproof
means of avoiding telemarketers is to not have a phone.

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Re: spammers on this list

[Hans Zöbelein]

amy.kristen7...@josona.bid is not a subscriber to blinux-list.
To prevent scraping of poster addresses, I have stopped archiving of 
blinux-list.


Best Regards
Hans
(maintainer blinux-list)

On 18.04.2017 18:32, John G Heim wrote:
I don't know, it seems pretty clear to me that there is a bot on this 
list automatically responding to messages posted to the list. Like I 
said, the hard part might be figuring which email address it is. But 
it might be as easy as banning amy.kristen7...@josona.bid. We have no 
way of knowing whether it would be that easy since you can't get a 
subscriber list unless you are the list owner.


Well, there certainly has not been a groundswell of support for me to 
create an alternate list on iavit.org. I suppose I could just create 
the list and see what happens. I think part of my problem with this 
spam is that as a matter of principle, I think the owner of a list 
should take his responsibility more seriously. That kind of thing 
probably bothers me more than it should. I am one of those guys who 
pays all the taxes he owes even if he knows he could get away with 
paying less. I am getting more and more irritated with Red Hat every day.


On 04/15/2017 08:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> In fact it is hard to paint just what they are doing.
> I posted in this thread once.
> However, and keeping the same subject line, I get an e-mail from this
> person with each post it seems... in this thread I mean.
> Kare
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, John G. Heim wrote:
>
>> But this particular spammer isn't harvesting email addresses from the
>> archive.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/14/2017 10:31 PM, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote:
>>>  Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at
>>>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/
>>>  and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the 
e-mail

>>>  address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say
>>>  there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address 
spam,

>>>  and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has
>>>  archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it 
will be

>>>  just as vulnerable to spambots.
>>>
>>

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Re: Any Currently Working Weather Apps?

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Janina Sajka  writes:

> A comment on the wx script ...
>
> I have found the script works just fine. However, the service isn't
> fully reliable.

Well, braille.wunderground.com started breaking their site a couple
months after this thread.  I have since moved away from home-grown
weather scripts.  I found a better weather program, and this one seems
actively maintained: http://fungi.yuggoth.org/weather
IIRC you're on Arch, so you can get it from the AUR as the weather
package.

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Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

[Eric Oyen]

here is one thing that might be distro independent: create an accessibility 
package set. This would include the required libs, scripts, binaries and config 
files needed to make any distro accessible. It would include emacspeak, BrlTTY, 
ORCA, the appropriate audio drivers and libraries and even access to the kernel 
modules required to make it all work.

Now, since some of the packages needed will be dependencies for other things 
(like sound and scripting like python), it shouldn't be all that difficult to 
gather everything else. 

Having this setup so that any distro can be made accessible would definitely be 
a plus. Honestly, making this a standard package set will go a long way toward 
allowing us access to any distro, regardless of package management system, 
layout or Desktop environment.

-eric

On Apr 18, 2017, at 7:28 AM, John G Heim wrote:

> Just fedora? Not vidora or something like that? Hey, if you guys end up 
> calling your distro vidora, I want credit. :-)
> 
> I look at the debate over whether it is better to have a distro for the blind 
> or to work on improving mainstream distros like the debate over barley versus 
> wheat beers. Personally, I prefer barley beers over any and all wheat beers. 
> But if someone wants to brew a wheat beer, it's fine with me and I'd even 
> help out if they asked. It's a matter of good and better. In other words, my 
> opinion is that even if you think it would be better if these developers 
> spent their time on mainstream distros, we should all still recognize that 
> what they are doing is really helpful.  Don't let the perfect be the enemy of 
> the good.
> 
> On 04/18/2017 08:45 AM, Jude dDaShiell wrote:
>> Last i read, both sonargnulinux and vinux were in the process of merging
>> into Fedora and that first release was supposed to have happened
>> sometime in April 2017 and would be called Fedora 26.0.  What has
>> happened since then I do not now know.
>> 
>> Sent from BlueMail  for iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Tony Baechler > > wrote:
>> Sorry for the late reply, but see comments below.
>> 
>> On 3/16/2017 3:36 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
>>> Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> 
 ...we, as a community, don't have an actual unified distro
 to call our own. Sure, Vinux is a decent distro, but it's
 lacking a lot of useful features outside of accessibility.
>> 
>> OK, but why do we, as a community, need a special distro? Yes, it's free
>> software, so there is certainly nothing stopping you as long as you realize
>> it's your pet distro along with the about 300 others on distrowatch.com
>> . I
>> would much rather have a popular, mainstream distro which includes great
>> accessibility like Debian and derivatives.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how things are at present, but in the past,
>>> Debian has shown some commitment to supporting
>>> accessibility[1], including at the installer level[2].
>> 
>> Yes, Debian still supports accessibility. Every alpha release of D-I has
>> accessibility features and fixes.
>> 
>>> 
>>> This is not the same as a special-purpose distribution, and
>>> I think the pages were written some time ago. Still I would
>>> think that some effort would be worthwhile, and would
>>> benefit all Debian derivatives, which could include
>>> a accessbility-centric distribution.
>>> 
>>> 1. https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility
>>> 2. https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility
>> 
>> These pages should be fairly current and are often updated by Debian
>> developers like Samuel Thibault.
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