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I sent the command to the listserve to get a list of the subscribers. As you can see from the response below, it said you have to be an administrator to get that. That is not unusual. Some lists allow the subscribers to get a list of the other subscribers but this one does not. Forwarded Message Subject:The results of your email commands Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:15:24 -0400 From: blinux-list-boun...@redhat.com To: jh...@math.wisc.edu The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Usage: who password See everyone who is on this mailing list. The roster is limited to list administrators and moderators only; you must supply the list admin or moderator password to retrieve the roster. - Unprocessed: who - Done. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 03:52:54AM AEST, John G Heim wrote: > If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every time > you post to this list, I suggest we take it to t...@iavit.org. I am the > moderator of that list and I wouldn't tolerate this. If you want me to > create a list especially for linux, I can do that too. Another alternative is the GNU accessibility List, https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility. Luke ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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its no biggie here. I simply have their email and other particulars filtered right into the spam folder. now back to the subject at hand…. -eric On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:52 AM, John G Heim wrote: > If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every time > you post to this list, I suggest we take it to t...@iavit.org. I am the > moderator of that list and I wouldn't tolerate this. If you want me to create > a list especially for linux, I can do that too. > > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:52:54PM -0500, John G Heim wrote: > If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every > time you post to this list I didn't get that spam, and in general, get very little if any via this list. I notice that the snippet you forwarded had your final delivery e-address in the "To:" header. My email from this list does not. Is it possible that for some reason, it's only you getting this particular spam/spammer? If you forward me the entire email including headers, I'd love to look at it for more clues. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Well Henry, for at least 1 or 2 months, each time I write or reply, I receive at least 1 spam item. I would say if there are no moderators of the list, then announcing a replacement, well, you would think those same anoying folks would just harvest the new address. And Henry, since it probably won't take long for this woman to reply, I can send with headers. When I reply, it asks, use address instead of from address, also reply to all. Anyway, here we go. Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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I guess what I'm driving at is the question of whether this/these spammer(s) are spamming you (evidently, there's more than one of "you") directly, or via the list. Only in the latter case could something reasonably be done about it (by attempting to unsubscribe them). If the former, then the spamming could simply follow you to the new list. A more miserable possibility is that one of the legitimate users on the list has his/her computer compromised, and it's from there that the (presumably unwitting) spam originates. In any case, if we look at the SMTP email headers, especially from two or more different spam recipients, we might see something obvious. On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 04:22:25AM -0700, Chime Hart wrote: > Well Henry, for at least 1 or 2 months, each time I write or reply, I > receive at least 1 spam item. I would say if there are no moderators of the > list, then announcing a replacement, well, you would think those same > anoying folks would just harvest the new address. > And Henry, since it probably won't take long for this woman to reply, I > can send with headers. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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All of my list communications come directly to my inbox. By which I mean I do not visit a third party site for reading messages or posting. If you decide to move this list, will this impact how I prefer reading messages? Thanks, Kare On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 03:52:54AM AEST, John G Heim wrote: If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every time you post to this list, I suggest we take it to t...@iavit.org. I am the moderator of that list and I wouldn't tolerate this. If you want me to create a list especially for linux, I can do that too. Another alternative is the GNU accessibility List, https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility. Luke ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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But, Henry, of course the spammer is replying directly back to the person who posted the message rather than back to the list. Spammers always work that way. I also don't see what difference it makes whether the bot (it clearly is a bot) was set up deliberately or if it is the result of someone being hacked. A bot is a bot. My problem is that there doesn't appear to be anyone at Red Hat monitoring this list. Hello, Red Hat. Are you there? It might be difficult to match the email address on the list to the spammer. The spam messages don't have to come from the same address as the one subscribe to this list. But I'm not sure what you hope to do if you get a look at the message headers. You can't unsubscribe anyone, can you? I would think if there was a moderator on this list, he or she would have have said something by now. On 04/14/2017 08:06 PM, Henry Yen wrote: I guess what I'm driving at is the question of whether this/these spammer(s) are spamming you (evidently, there's more than one of "you") directly, or via the list. Only in the latter case could something reasonably be done about it (by attempting to unsubscribe them). If the former, then the spamming could simply follow you to the new list. A more miserable possibility is that one of the legitimate users on the list has his/her computer compromised, and it's from there that the (presumably unwitting) spam originates. In any case, if we look at the SMTP email headers, especially from two or more different spam recipients, we might see something obvious. On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 04:22:25AM -0700, Chime Hart wrote: Well Henry, for at least 1 or 2 months, each time I write or reply, I receive at least 1 spam item. I would say if there are no moderators of the list, then announcing a replacement, well, you would think those same anoying folks would just harvest the new address. And Henry, since it probably won't take long for this woman to reply, I can send with headers. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Nothing about how the list operates would have to change. We could change some things if we wanted to. But IAVIT uses the same listserv software as Red Hat does, mailman. I think the biggest problem with moving this list is that we can't really move it, not without the help of the list owner. And if we had the cooperation of the list owner, we might not have to move it. It occurs to me that someone should email the list owner. On a properly configured list, amil to -owner should work. I will try that and get back to the list with results. On 04/14/2017 08:17 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: All of my list communications come directly to my inbox. By which I mean I do not visit a third party site for reading messages or posting. If you decide to move this list, will this impact how I prefer reading messages? Thanks, Kare On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 03:52:54AM AEST, John G Heim wrote: If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every time you post to this list, I suggest we take it to t...@iavit.org. I am the moderator of that list and I wouldn't tolerate this. If you want me to create a list especially for linux, I can do that too. Another alternative is the GNU accessibility List, https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility. Luke ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Well, I sent a message to blinux-list-ow...@redhat.com and didn't get a bounce. The message went somewhere. On 04/14/2017 09:27 PM, John G. Heim wrote: Nothing about how the list operates would have to change. We could change some things if we wanted to. But IAVIT uses the same listserv software as Red Hat does, mailman. I think the biggest problem with moving this list is that we can't really move it, not without the help of the list owner. And if we had the cooperation of the list owner, we might not have to move it. It occurs to me that someone should email the list owner. On a properly configured list, amil to -owner should work. I will try that and get back to the list with results. On 04/14/2017 08:17 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: All of my list communications come directly to my inbox. By which I mean I do not visit a third party site for reading messages or posting. If you decide to move this list, will this impact how I prefer reading messages? Thanks, Kare On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 03:52:54AM AEST, John G Heim wrote: If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every time you post to this list, I suggest we take it to t...@iavit.org. I am the moderator of that list and I wouldn't tolerate this. If you want me to create a list especially for linux, I can do that too. Another alternative is the GNU accessibility List, https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility. Luke ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/ and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the e-mail address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address spam, and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it will be just as vulnerable to spambots. -- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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FWIW, the official list administrator is: hzoebelein at gmail.com On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 09:33:14AM -0500, John G. Heim wrote: > Well, I sent a message to blinux-list-ow...@redhat.com and didn't get a > bounce. The message went somewhere. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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I can confirm I've also receive the same spammer message from the same sender. Best regards. Le 15/04/2017 à 01:07, Henry Yen a écrit : On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:52:54PM -0500, John G Heim wrote: If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every time you post to this list I didn't get that spam, and in general, get very little if any via this list. I notice that the snippet you forwarded had your final delivery e-address in the "To:" header. My email from this list does not. Is it possible that for some reason, it's only you getting this particular spam/spammer? If you forward me the entire email including headers, I'd love to look at it for more clues. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Alex ARNAUD ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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well, there is one thing that could be done that would definitely lock out spammers. use of GpG encrypted email and just have everyone share their GpG fingerprints. At that point, most spam bots would be locked out. This wouldn't prevent them from sending to you, but it certainly would make it far easier to filter them out using the subject line and their email. Now, I know this seems like a lot of extra work, but I am already on a couple of lists where encrypted traffic is the norm and anything unencrypted gets dropped and not passed. -eric On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, John G. Heim wrote: > Well, I sent a message to blinux-list-ow...@redhat.com and didn't get a > bounce. The message went somewhere. > > > > On 04/14/2017 09:27 PM, John G. Heim wrote: >> Nothing about how the list operates would have to change. We could change >> some things if we wanted to. But IAVIT uses the same listserv software as >> Red Hat does, mailman. I think the biggest problem with moving this list is >> that we can't really move it, not without the help of the list owner. And >> if we had the cooperation of the list owner, we might not have to move it. >> >> It occurs to me that someone should email the list owner. On a properly >> configured list, amil to -owner should work. I will try that and >> get back to the list with results. >> >> On 04/14/2017 08:17 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> All of my list communications come directly to my inbox. By which I mean I >>> do not visit a third party site for reading messages or posting. >>> If you decide to move this list, will this impact how I prefer reading >>> messages? >>> Thanks, >>> Kare >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, Luke Yelavich wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 03:52:54AM AEST, John G Heim wrote: > If anyone else is tired of getting these messages from spammers every time > you post to this list, I suggest we take it to t...@iavit.org. I am the > moderator of that list and I wouldn't tolerate this. If you want me to > create a list especially for linux, I can do that too. Another alternative is the GNU accessibility List, https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility. Luke ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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I remember the list administrator being somewhat active on this list many years ago. I actually had breakfast with him while passing through Munich back in 2003. I'll try to inquiry through a mutual friend whether Hans is still alive and has simply lost interest in the list, or what the situation might be. News on this soon. Janina John G. Heim writes: > I sent the command to the listserve to get a list of the subscribers. As > you can see from the response below, it said you have to be an administrator > to get that. That is not unusual. Some lists allow the subscribers to get a > list of the other subscribers but this one does not. > > > Forwarded Message > Subject: The results of your email commands > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:15:24 -0400 > From: blinux-list-boun...@redhat.com > To: jh...@math.wisc.edu > > > > The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your > original message. > > - Results: > Usage: > who password > See everyone who is on this mailing list. The roster is limited to > list administrators and moderators only; you must supply the list > admin or moderator password to retrieve the roster. > > > - Unprocessed: > who > > - Done. > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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But this particular spammer isn't harvesting email addresses from the archive. On 04/14/2017 10:31 PM, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/ and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the e-mail address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address spam, and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it will be just as vulnerable to spambots. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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In fact it is hard to paint just what they are doing. I posted in this thread once. However, and keeping the same subject line, I get an e-mail from this person with each post it seems... in this thread I mean. Kare On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, John G. Heim wrote: But this particular spammer isn't harvesting email addresses from the archive. On 04/14/2017 10:31 PM, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/ and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the e-mail address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address spam, and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it will be just as vulnerable to spambots. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Suspect they got malware and are quite unaware what's happening in their name. I know this happens. Hope it isn't me, most these threads go over my head, so contribute next to nothing. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: ; "Linux for blind general discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:33 AM Subject: Re: spammers on this list In fact it is hard to paint just what they are doing. I posted in this thread once. However, and keeping the same subject line, I get an e-mail from this person with each post it seems... in this thread I mean. Kare On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, John G. Heim wrote: > But this particular spammer isn't harvesting email addresses from the > archive. > > > > On 04/14/2017 10:31 PM, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: >> Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/ >> and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the e-mail >> address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say >> there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address spam, >> and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has >> archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it will be >> just as vulnerable to spambots. >> > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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I don't know, it seems pretty clear to me that there is a bot on this list automatically responding to messages posted to the list. Like I said, the hard part might be figuring which email address it is. But it might be as easy as banning amy.kristen7...@josona.bid. We have no way of knowing whether it would be that easy since you can't get a subscriber list unless you are the list owner. Well, there certainly has not been a groundswell of support for me to create an alternate list on iavit.org. I suppose I could just create the list and see what happens. I think part of my problem with this spam is that as a matter of principle, I think the owner of a list should take his responsibility more seriously. That kind of thing probably bothers me more than it should. I am one of those guys who pays all the taxes he owes even if he knows he could get away with paying less. I am getting more and more irritated with Red Hat every day. On 04/15/2017 08:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > In fact it is hard to paint just what they are doing. > I posted in this thread once. > However, and keeping the same subject line, I get an e-mail from this > person with each post it seems... in this thread I mean. > Kare > > > On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, John G. Heim wrote: > >> But this particular spammer isn't harvesting email addresses from the >> archive. >> >> >> >> On 04/14/2017 10:31 PM, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: >>> Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at >>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/ >>> and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the e-mail >>> address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say >>> there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address spam, >>> and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has >>> archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it will be >>> just as vulnerable to spambots. >>> >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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amy.kristen7...@josona.bid is not a subscriber to blinux-list. To prevent scraping of poster addresses, I have stopped archiving of blinux-list. Best Regards Hans (maintainer blinux-list) On 18.04.2017 18:32, John G Heim wrote: I don't know, it seems pretty clear to me that there is a bot on this list automatically responding to messages posted to the list. Like I said, the hard part might be figuring which email address it is. But it might be as easy as banning amy.kristen7...@josona.bid. We have no way of knowing whether it would be that easy since you can't get a subscriber list unless you are the list owner. Well, there certainly has not been a groundswell of support for me to create an alternate list on iavit.org. I suppose I could just create the list and see what happens. I think part of my problem with this spam is that as a matter of principle, I think the owner of a list should take his responsibility more seriously. That kind of thing probably bothers me more than it should. I am one of those guys who pays all the taxes he owes even if he knows he could get away with paying less. I am getting more and more irritated with Red Hat every day. On 04/15/2017 08:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > In fact it is hard to paint just what they are doing. > I posted in this thread once. > However, and keeping the same subject line, I get an e-mail from this > person with each post it seems... in this thread I mean. > Kare > > > On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, John G. Heim wrote: > >> But this particular spammer isn't harvesting email addresses from the >> archive. >> >> >> >> On 04/14/2017 10:31 PM, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: >>> Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at >>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/ >>> and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the e-mail >>> address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say >>> there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address spam, >>> and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has >>> archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it will be >>> just as vulnerable to spambots. >>> >> ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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As I understand it, RedHat is just providing the hosting and has nothing to do with the actual operation of the list, and since most of the list's functionality is completely automated, there might not even be a flesh and blood person behind whatever e-mail serves as the list owner. Whether the spammer is using the e-mail addresses attached to individual messages as they're sent to subscribers or e-mail addresses taken from the latest archived posts is probably impossible to tell, but I deduce that the spam is being sent to individual poster's e-mail addresses rather than the list itself and are independant of legitimate post volume since I only get spam when I reply to a thread and get a slew of the spam messages even if I was the last poster. Banning Amy might work if she's getting the e-mail addresses from messages landing in her inbox, but if the e-mail adresses are coming from the archives or a second e-mail account subscribed to the list, I don't think anything short of changing the list's configuration to not include the sender's e-mail in either ther e-mails sent to individual subscribers or the archives, and doing so would probably be necessary to stop all future spam attempts that don't rely on being a subscriber, and even if there is a flesh and blood person behind the e-mail that serves as list owner, the list software might not allow such. That said, I accepted long ago that the only way to avoid spam e-mail altogether is to not use e-mail at all just as the only foolproof means of avoiding telemarketers is to not have a phone. -- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list. Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to blinux list, replacing it with the list address. This should stop email address harvesting and spamming. Best Regards Hans (maintainer blinux-list) On 18.04.2017 19:44, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: As I understand it, RedHat is just providing the hosting and has nothing to do with the actual operation of the list, and since most of the list's functionality is completely automated, there might not even be a flesh and blood person behind whatever e-mail serves as the list owner. Whether the spammer is using the e-mail addresses attached to individual messages as they're sent to subscribers or e-mail addresses taken from the latest archived posts is probably impossible to tell, but I deduce that the spam is being sent to individual poster's e-mail addresses rather than the list itself and are independant of legitimate post volume since I only get spam when I reply to a thread and get a slew of the spam messages even if I was the last poster. Banning Amy might work if she's getting the e-mail addresses from messages landing in her inbox, but if the e-mail adresses are coming from the archives or a second e-mail account subscribed to the list, I don't think anything short of changing the list's configuration to not include the sender's e-mail in either ther e-mails sent to individual subscribers or the archives, and doing so would probably be necessary to stop all future spam attempts that don't rely on being a subscriber, and even if there is a flesh and blood person behind the e-mail that serves as list owner, the list software might not allow such. That said, I accepted long ago that the only way to avoid spam e-mail altogether is to not use e-mail at all just as the only foolproof means of avoiding telemarketers is to not have a phone. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Thanks, Hans. This should help! Am 18.04.2017 um 20:13 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have > proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list. > Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to blinux list, > replacing it with the list address. > > This should stop email address harvesting and spamming. > > Best Regards > Hans > (maintainer blinux-list) -- . ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Only, that now all have the same 'From' displayed. guenter Am 19.04.2017 um 21:01 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > Thanks, Hans. This should help! > > Am 18.04.2017 um 20:13 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have >> proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list. >> Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to blinux list, >> replacing it with the list address. >> >> This should stop email address harvesting and spamming. >> >> Best Regards >> Hans >> (maintainer blinux-list) -- . ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Would you be able to leave the 'display name' part of the original 'From' reserved / conserved / untouched? guenter Am 18.04.2017 um 20:13 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have > proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list. > Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to blinux list, > replacing it with the list address. > > This should stop email address harvesting and spamming. > > Best Regards > Hans > (maintainer blinux-list) -- . ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: spammers on this list
Sorry to say that Mailman doesn't provide an option for keeping 'display name' while discarding 'From' email address. Best Regards Hans (maintainer blinux-list) On 19.04.2017 21:12, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Would you be able to leave the 'display name' part of the original 'From' reserved / conserved / untouched? guenter Am 18.04.2017 um 20:13 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list. Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to blinux list, replacing it with the list address. This should stop email address harvesting and spamming. Best Regards Hans (maintainer blinux-list) ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
testing an idea was spammers on this list
since I can filter, wanted to try something. ignore this, if I am correct, will share. Kare On Sun, 16 Apr 2017, Rob Harris wrote: Suspect they got malware and are quite unaware what's happening in their name. I know this happens. Hope it isn't me, most these threads go over my head, so contribute next to nothing. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: ; "Linux for blind general discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:33 AM Subject: Re: spammers on this list In fact it is hard to paint just what they are doing. I posted in this thread once. However, and keeping the same subject line, I get an e-mail from this person with each post it seems... in this thread I mean. Kare On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, John G. Heim wrote: But this particular spammer isn't harvesting email addresses from the archive. On 04/14/2017 10:31 PM, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: Considering that the list archives can be viewed by anyone at https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/ and be downloaded as gzipped plain text files that include the e-mail address from which each message was sent, I think it's fair to say there's next to nothing any list moderators could do to address spam, and unless an alternative list either lacks public archives or has archives that strip e-mail addresses from the from fields, it will be just as vulnerable to spambots. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
