RE: Fwd: CNN Breaking News
Lance A. Brown said: The point of shooting the satellite was to disrupt the fuel storage. If the satellite came down in one piece, there is a chance the hydrazine fuel on board would survive to reach the surface. If it impacts on land, you get nasty poisonous gas cloud. If the missile did it's job, the fuel storage was destroyed. The satellite (or remaining parts) will still come down, but now the hydrazine will burn up during reentry. This is indeed what they said, but frankly that's just a ludicrous statement. Hydrazine isn't fun, but nobody has cared before in the slightest about spacecraft with much bigger loads of un-burnt hydrazine crashing to earth. Given the very remote possibility that this US spy-bird had crashed in a populated area, the negative effects of hydrazine landing on your head would be far less problematic than a piece of hurtling space junk tapping you on the head. The general consensus among many (e.g. www.theregister.co.uk) appears to be that the US wanted simply to test their sat-interceptor systems, and maybe make a bit of PR capital by flexing their muscles on the world stage. Curtis. Alpha-male syndrome Maru. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Blowing things in space [was: Fwd: CNN Breaking News]
Curtis Burisch wrote: The general consensus among many (e.g. www.theregister.co.uk) appears to be that the US wanted simply to test their sat- interceptor systems, and maybe make a bit of PR capital by flexing their muscles on the world stage. OTOH, this shows the capacity to hit a fast-moving object (speed in the order of 10.000 meters/second) from Earth, which might be useful when there's a need to blow an asteroid with nukes. Alberto Monteiro PS: I hope the subject does not make anybody think about Monika Lewinsky in a space shuttle. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Blowing things in space [was: Fwd: CNN Breaking News]
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Alberto Monteiro PS: I hope the subject does not make anybody think about Monika Lewinsky in a space shuttle. The thought had not occurred to me until I read this. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: CNN Breaking News
On Feb 25, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Curtis Burisch wrote: Lance A. Brown said: The point of shooting the satellite was to disrupt the fuel storage. If the satellite came down in one piece, there is a chance the hydrazine fuel on board would survive to reach the surface. If it impacts on land, you get nasty poisonous gas cloud. If the missile did it's job, the fuel storage was destroyed. The satellite (or remaining parts) will still come down, but now the hydrazine will burn up during reentry. This is indeed what they said, but frankly that's just a ludicrous statement. Hydrazine isn't fun, but nobody has cared before in the slightest about spacecraft with much bigger loads of un-burnt hydrazine crashing to earth. Given the very remote possibility that this US spy-bird had crashed in a populated area, the negative effects of hydrazine landing on your head would be far less problematic than a piece of hurtling space junk tapping you on the head. The general consensus among many (e.g. www.theregister.co.uk) appears to be that the US wanted simply to test their sat-interceptor systems, and maybe make a bit of PR capital by flexing their muscles on the world stage. I think it was also because some significant chunks of very new, very secret technology might have survived reentry and potentially gotten into the wrong hands. BTW, I receive a link to a short video that shows the launch, a stage separation and the moment of impact of the shoot-down: mms://wm.ksdk.gannett.edgestreams.net/news/022108_deadsatellite_ksdk.wmv Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: CNN Breaking News
On 26/02/2008, at 11:31 AM, Dave Land wrote: I think it was also because some significant chunks of very new, very secret technology might have survived reentry and potentially gotten into the wrong hands. I say this already. Noone listen to me. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fwd: CNN Breaking News
Ronn! Blankenship said the following on 2/21/2008 12:31 AM: So . . . if they shot it /down/ before it crashed to Earth, where is it going to fall now? (Yes, I know . . . just seems they could have phrased that better . . . ) The point of shooting the satellite was to disrupt the fuel storage. If the satellite came down in one piece, there is a chance the hydrazine fuel on board would survive to reach the surface. If it impacts on land, you get nasty poisonous gas cloud. If the missile did it's job, the fuel storage was destroyed. The satellite (or remaining parts) will still come down, but now the hydrazine will burn up during reentry. --[Lance] -- Celebrate The Circle http://www.celebratethecircle.org/ Carolina Spirit Quest http://www.carolinaspiritquest.org/ GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fwd: CNN Breaking News
At 04:23 AM Thursday 2/21/2008, Lance A. Brown wrote:
Ronn! Blankenship said the following on 2/21/2008 12:31 AM:
So . . . if they shot it /down/ before it crashed to Earth, where is
it going to fall now?
(Yes, I know . . . just seems they could have phrased that better . . . )
The point of shooting the satellite was to disrupt the fuel storage. If
the satellite came down in one piece, there is a chance the hydrazine
fuel on board would survive to reach the surface. If it impacts on
land, you get nasty poisonous gas cloud.
If the missile did it's job, the fuel storage was destroyed. The
satellite (or remaining parts) will still come down, but now the
hydrazine will burn up during reentry.
Now, if I really wanted to nit-pick CNN I would mention the sentence
which has appeared in at least three stories on the topic,
Hydrazine is similar to chlorine or ammonia in that it affects the
lungs and breathing tissue.
without once mentioning that hydrazine is what is produced when you
fail to follow the warning on the labels and mix chlorine bleach and
ammonia . . . X;{
Still Don't Play One On TV Maru
-- Ronn! :)
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Re: CNN Breaking News
-- The U.S. Navy successfully shot down an inoperable spy satellite before it crashed to Earth, the Pentagon confirms. So . . . if they shot it /down/ before it crashed to Earth, where is it going to fall now? Can't believe so many have swallowed hook-line-sinker the it's to stop the hydrazine contamination thing, though. The tank was more than likely to rupture and the hydrazine boil/burn off. It's the camera tech they were really worried about. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: CNN Breaking News
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Fwd: CNN Breaking News
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge expected to raise the U.S. security level at 1:30 p.m. ET news conference and discuss concerns about continued al Qaeda threats, official tells CNN. (c)2003. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: CNN Breaking News
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: Fwd: CNN Breaking News Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge expected to raise the U.S. security level at 1:30 p.m. ET news conference and discuss concerns about continued al Qaeda threats, official tells CNN. Yeah http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031221/D7VITS9O0.html Here we go again. xponent Orange Crush Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: CNN Breaking News
-- U.S. forces capture a number of wanted Iraqis in Tikrit, possibly including former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, U.S. officials say. Identities still being confirmed. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com (AOL Keyword: CNN) for the latest news. (c)2003. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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-- U.S. officials confirm former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein captured. Watch CNN for live coverage. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com (AOL Keyword: CNN) for the latest news. (c)2003. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Fwd: CNN Breaking News
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: -- U.S. forces capture a number of wanted Iraqis in Tikrit, possibly including former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, U.S. officials say. Looks like they're doing DNA tests to confirm. I wonder what that's going to mean to Iraq in both the short and long terms. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim Sharkey wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: -- U.S. forces capture a number of wanted Iraqis in Tikrit, possibly including former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, U.S. officials say. Looks like they're doing DNA tests to confirm. I wonder what that's going to mean to Iraq in both the short and long terms. Well, this is good news, however you look at it. :) The Iraqis would be able to try and convict the man who terrorised them for decades and the psychological boost of such an act would be hard to overstate. He might also be a useful bait to reel in whatever loyal fighters he can still boast of in Iraq. It is going to have an extremely beneficial attempt on Blair and Bush's approval ratings. :) Anything more than that would depend on the political acumen of people running the show. Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fwd: CNN Breaking News
Jim Sharkey wrote: -- U.S. forces capture a number of wanted Iraqis in Tikrit, possibly including former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, U.S. officials say. Looks like they're doing DNA tests to confirm. I wonder what that's going to mean to Iraq in both the short and long terms. Where are they taking DNA samples from? They shouldn't trust taking them from the body, because Saddam could have made a brain-surgery and changed his body with another person. I suggest that, after confirmation of the body, they should take DNA from his brain, from many sites of it, to confirm that he isn't disguising in another body. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: CNN Breaking News
In a message dated 12/14/2003 4:05:16 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- U.S. forces capture a number of wanted Iraqis in Tikrit, possibly including former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, U.S. officials say. Identities still being confirmed. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com (AOL Keyword: CNN) for the latest news. (c)2003. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. Maybe now I can finally watch TV without hearing those Clark for president commercials that state as fact the mess in Iraq. For some reason, in Arizona Clark to Dean commercials seem to be running about 20 to 1 William Taylor - I expect not all Rights are going to be reserved behavior today. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fwd: CNN Breaking News
- Original Message - From: ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:34 AM Subject: RE: Fwd: CNN Breaking News Jim Sharkey wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: -- U.S. forces capture a number of wanted Iraqis in Tikrit, possibly including former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, U.S. officials say. Looks like they're doing DNA tests to confirm. I wonder what that's going to mean to Iraq in both the short and long terms. Well, this is good news, however you look at it. :) The Iraqis would be able to try and convict the man who terrorised them for decades and the psychological boost of such an act would be hard to overstate. He might also be a useful bait to reel in whatever loyal fighters he can still boast of in Iraq. I think that pictures of a grubby Saddam hiding in a hole in the ground will have a significant psychological effect on a lot of people in that part of the world. That he was captured without a shot being fired, even though he wore a pistol, is also significant. In a news article about reactions to Saddams capture, one Arab called Saddam a coward for allowing himself to be captured alive and without fighting. I would respond to this comment by asking What do you think makes a dictator?. Authoritarian despots are not known for being stout hearted and courageous and brave. It is going to have an extremely beneficial attempt on Blair and Bush's approval ratings. :) Anything more than that would depend on the political acumen of people running the show. The Bush administration quickly applied a no gloating edict. Hopefully Bush can get Cheney to comply.G xponent Unturned Worms Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: CNN Breaking News
Looks like they're doing DNA tests to confirm. I wonder what that's going to mean to Iraq in both the short and long terms. It'll probably lead to a more widespread acceptance of the validity of DNA testing throughout the Middle East... Tom Beck www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: CNN Breaking News
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CNN Breaking News Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:37:53 EST Looks like they're doing DNA tests to confirm. I wonder what that's going to mean to Iraq in both the short and long terms. It'll probably lead to a more widespread acceptance of the validity of DNA testing throughout the Middle East... More likely, the Arab world will believe that we've mistakenly captured one of his doppelgangers despite DNA evidence to the contrary. Perhaps in the future Saddam will beat out Elvis, Bigfoot and UFO's for the most unproven 'sightings'. ;) Seriously, it might have been more prudent to wait for absolute proof before announcing we had him. If the results come back and it's _not_ Saddam, we'll be a laughingstock. Jon Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _ Browse styles for all ages, from the latest looks to cozy weekend wear at MSN Shopping. And check out the beauty products! http://shopping.msn.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, it might have been more prudent to wait for absolute proof before announcing we had him. If the results come back and it's _not_ Saddam, we'll be a laughingstock. Jon That's apparently what they did, actually. They got him on Saturday, and waited until this morning to announce it. = Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freedom is not free http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: CNN Breaking News
Looks like the advice given to Ilana is still correct . . . Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:27:02 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- All but one of 118 dead hostages in Moscow theater standoff died from gas poisoning, Russia's chief medical examiner says. (c)2002. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. An AOL Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:46:03 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rifle, scope and tripod found in sniper suspects' car, Washington, D.C. radio station WTOP reports. (c)2002. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. An AOL Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: CNN Breaking News on DC Sniper
At 04:09 AM 10/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Police in Maryland say they have arrested John Allen Muhammad, who sniper-case investigators say may have information about the case. Muhammad's stepson also in custody. At 07:03 AM 10/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Sources tell CNN two men detained in connection with sniper killings now considered suspects. (c)2002. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. An AOL Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
