Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
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Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wanted to check the list out. Welcome! Funny, I don't see many postings related to Brin. Yeah, funny that. (And there's even less discussion relating to the other "Killer B's".) Politics, current events, science (esp physics-related) and science fiction are probably the most common off-topic topics here, though most anything goes. There are a few people here who I think would classify as "Brin experts", particularly on his uplift universe material, so feel free to spark some on-topic discussion about it. Dr. Brin's own interests stretch far beyond his own SF works, so I think the broad nature of the discussion here is actually somewhat fitting. Was also a chance to check out googlemail. How do you like it so far? -Bryon _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
Gary Denton wrote: I wanted to check the list out. Funny, I don't see many postings related to Brin. And you won't, either. In fact, from what I've observed in my months here, mentions of his work are few and far between. You will occasionally spot the good doctor himself spreading his memes. Also far down on the frequency list is discussion of science fiction, except for a mysterious (to me) fascination with Battlestar Galactica. (Note to fans: I do not want or need an education in the manifold blessings that the show has brought to the world, thank you.) Mostly, you'll find heavily-armed encampments on either side (of any given issue), a few shell-shocked moderates running back and forth in the middle hoarsely shouting "can't we all just get along" (then scampering away just as a shell lands nearby), along with a few others who lob in a few rounds from time to time just to stir things up. Was also a chance to check out googlemail. Ooh ... someone with access to the *limited beta* ... How do you like it? Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
I wanted to check the list out. Funny, I don't see many postings related to Brin. Was also a chance to check out googlemail. On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:46:17 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Denton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:17 AM > Subject: Re: Ultimate Chutzpah > > >Gary Denton > >#1 on google for liberal news > > Take Note! > > There's a new kid on the block. > > Welcome to our humble war zone Gary! > (That's an inside joke from outside viewers) > > I beleive the Texas contingent just grew by one. > > xponent > Welcome Wagon Red Carpet Debutante Ball Maru > rob > > > ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
- Original Message - From: "Gary Denton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:17 AM Subject: Re: Ultimate Chutzpah >Gary Denton >#1 on google for liberal news Take Note! There's a new kid on the block. Welcome to our humble war zone Gary! (That's an inside joke from outside viewers) I beleive the Texas contingent just grew by one. xponent Welcome Wagon Red Carpet Debutante Ball Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
Bush's Republicans unveiled a new television ad and a "Winning the War on Terror Tour" highlighting Kerry's Senate votes against such weapons systems as the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, B-2 Stealth bomber and F/A-18 fighter jet. The Democrats countered by accusing the White House of "hypocrisy," saying that Vice President Dick Cheney had tried to cut 81 major weapons programs while defense secretary from 1989 to 1993, including many the Republicans are using against Kerry. A statement by the Kerry campaign said the items cut by Cheney included 90 C-17 transport planes and 14 B-52 bombers, two aircraft that turned out to be vital to operations in Iraq. The Democrats argue that their candidate supported 16 of the 19 defense authorisation budgets put before the Senate since he entered the body, and any "no" votes were aimed at trimming often inflated spending plans. http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040426180849.mp2ai6ej.html And a more comprehensive take: Vice President Richard Cheney gave a brutal hatchet job of a speech yesterday. And it would have been a convincing attack on Kerry, had it not been so stomach-churningly inaccurate and malicious. Among other things, Cheney said: [Kerry] proposed reductions in funding for the Tomahawk cruise missile and the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. And at numerous times, Senator Kerry has voted against funding weapons systems vital to fighting and winning the war on terror, such as the Blackhawk helicopter and the Predator drone. If you check Kerry's recordâ Kerry supported at least $6 billion in defense authorizations for the Tomahawk. Kerry backed at least $8.5 billion in defense authorizations for Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Kerry has supported at least $13 billion in defense authorizations on versions of the Blackhawk. As for Dick Cheneyâ Cheney's defense budget was so pared-down that it didn't include any funds for more Tomahawk missiles in 1991, despite stocks rapidly diminished by the military action in the Persian Gulf. - Washington Post, 2/5/91; Aerospace Daily, 1/23/91; AP, 6/20/90 "Major weapons killed include the Army's M-2 Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the Navy's Trident submarine and F-14 aircraft, and the Air Force's F-16 airplane. Cheney decided the military already has enough of these weapons." - Boston Globe, 2/5/91 "The Pentagon's internal budget deliberations recommended termination of the Black Hawk program under Secretary Cheney." -Aerospace Daily, 5/15/90 The Washington Post also did a nice job of debunking Cheney's attack on Kerry on intelligence funding. Give it a read if you're interested in hearing how much bigger the proposed Republican cut was, and how Cheney distorted Kerry's actual record. Cheney, Bush and their cronies are going to extravagant lengths to paint Kerry as soft on defense. It's pure spin. Put side by side, he's consistently stronger than Cheney. But here's the bigger picture. Not only does Kerry come out better on specific defense-related votes, he beats Bush on national security because he wouldn't undercut our troops. He wouldn't send them into unnecessary wars without help from allies, or repeatedly cut combat pay, or slash veteran's health care, or withhold needed equipment. http://www.airamericaradio.com/bin/blogExcerpts.cfm?blogId=1&prg=3&year=2004&month=4&day=27 More on the intelligence cuts, the last attacks - Kerry on Sept. 29, 1995, proposed a five-year, $1.5 billion cut to the intelligence budget. But Bush appears to be wrong when he said the proposed Kerry cut -- about 1 percent of the overall intelligence budget for those years -- would have "gutted" intelligence. In fact, the Republican-led Congress that year approved legislation that resulted in $3.8 billion being cut over five years from the budget of the National Reconnaissance Office -- the same program Kerry said he was targeting. The $1.5 billion cut Kerry proposed represented about the same amount Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), then chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told the Senate that same day he wanted cut from the intelligence spending bill based on unspent, secret funds that had been accumulated by one intelligence agency "without informing the Pentagon, CIA or Congress." The NRO, which designs, builds and operates spy satellites, had accumulated that amount of excess funds. Yeah, chutzpah and hypocrisy and lies, Cheney trademarks. Gary Denton #1 on google for liberal news On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:34:17 -0500, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > At 04:00 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote: > > >Yesterday Dick Cheney blasted John Kerrey for voting in the Senate > >against various defense spending bills. It turns out, the Bush > >Administration REQUESTED most of those cuts! > > > >Cheney: Kerrey voted against defense spending. > > > >Reporter: But, sir...you ASKED him to vote against those defense > >spending bills! > > > >Cheney: That's irrelevant. The fact is, he voted against defense > >spending. > > > > > > > >This is most blatant chutzpah since Colin Ferguson acted as his own > >defense attorney in the LIRR shooting and asked his own victims if they > >recognized the man who had shot them. > > > >Tom Beck > > Did this little exchange come completely from your imagination? > > The bigger issue, there are a few facts left out that put the votes into > context. I think they would bolster your argument in the short term, but > wreck it long term. I'll let it up to the gentle readers whether you didn't > know these facts or left them out deliberately. Not having been aware of any of this before now, I'm wondering if someone could provide the rest of the facts that you say have been left out? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Ultimate Chutzpah
At 04:00 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote: Yesterday Dick Cheney blasted John Kerrey for voting in the Senate against various defense spending bills. It turns out, the Bush Administration REQUESTED most of those cuts! Cheney: Kerrey voted against defense spending. Reporter: But, sir...you ASKED him to vote against those defense spending bills! Cheney: That's irrelevant. The fact is, he voted against defense spending. This is most blatant chutzpah since Colin Ferguson acted as his own defense attorney in the LIRR shooting and asked his own victims if they recognized the man who had shot them. Tom Beck Did this little exchange come completely from your imagination? The bigger issue, there are a few facts left out that put the votes into context. I think they would bolster your argument in the short term, but wreck it long term. I'll let it up to the gentle readers whether you didn't know these facts or left them out deliberately. Kevin T. - VRWLC I owe I owe and so on ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Ultimate Chutzpah
Yesterday Dick Cheney blasted John Kerrey for voting in the Senate against various defense spending bills. It turns out, the Bush Administration REQUESTED most of those cuts! Cheney: Kerrey voted against defense spending. Reporter: But, sir...you ASKED him to vote against those defense spending bills! Cheney: That's irrelevant. The fact is, he voted against defense spending. This is most blatant chutzpah since Colin Ferguson acted as his own defense attorney in the LIRR shooting and asked his own victims if they recognized the man who had shot them. -- Tom Beck my LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/tomfodw/ New York (Football) Giants: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Go_Big_Blue/ "I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last." - Dr. Jerry Pournelle --___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
