[BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Christopher Boone via BVARC]

Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh

Chris WB5ITT

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[BVARC] Is this the big China balloon payload?

[JP Pritchard via BVARC]

Kyle Bass interview on Mornings with Maria this morning.

He said they can map under the ground up to a kilometer with high resolution.

JP, K5JPP

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/84746/breakthrough-quantum-sensor-allows-high-res-mapping-of-the-underground/index.html#:~:text=Researchers%20from%20the%20University%20of%20Birmingham%20have%20made,buried%20a%20meter%20below%20ground%20in%20real-world%20conditions


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[BVARC] Parks On The Air @ San Jacinto Battleground SHS 2/19/23

[Kori Rahman via BVARC]

All,

*BVARC POTA THIS SUNDAY!*
*San Jacinto Battleground State Historic Site*

In case you missed it on the website or over the nets: We will be going to
San Jacinto Battleground State Historic Site (address below) on
*Sunday* *February
19**th* doing Parks On The AIr (POTA). This is an official BVARC event, and
we will be using the club call sign KK5W. If you're interested
in participating or just hanging out with us, we're asking folks to come by
between *11am **and 4pm*. These hours are relatively short from our usual
ones because the park has relatively short hours of operation. So if you
want to come early or later you can help us get set up and breakdown. We
are still unsure of our exact location in the park, but we should be
visible when you're driving in. Call us on *146.520 MHz simplex* if you
would like to reach out to us while in the park for directions. If you
can't reach us or don't have a 2m radio you can call me directly at my cell
number below.

Some important details:

   - Access to the park grounds is free. You can pay $10 as a flat rate for
   all on-site exhibits and the museum.
   - *We will have at least 4 HF radios *(40m, 20m, 15m, 10m, and
   possibly 17m or 80m) that you can use if you don't have your own. So all
   you need to bring is yourself, some water, and maybe some snacks.
   - If you'd like to bring your own radio, we have a few antennas you can
   use and the appropriate filters. But again, you don't *need *to bring
   any equipment.
   - *Technician class licensees ARE WELCOME!* You *CAN *operate the
   stations on ALL HF bands that are available and get POTA credit for
   contacts you make. You will be required to use the club call sign (ask me
   or Anthony W5LIC for details upon arrival).
   - If you're a Tech class license holder and would like to operate on 10m
   you may do so under your own call sign if the station is open (10m band
   conditions have been favorable lately).
   - Of course, you do not have to operate the radios, you can just come
   out for a fun time with your fellow hams.
   - 10 contacts are all that are required to "activate" the park. You can
   log with paper, or with any apps you prefer (we recommend the HAMRS App
   ).
   - Sign up on the POTA.app  website to upload your logs
   after the event.



*Again it's February 19th 2023, ~10am-4pm*
*San Jacinto Battleground State Historic Site*
*3523 Independence Pkwy*
*La Porte, TX 77571*

If you've been curious about trying CW, FT8, or Winlink (VARA HF, 2m Packet
etc.) we will have those as optional modes you can try (more to come in the
future). As before, if you can't make this event, we will be doing this
monthly for the foreseeable future. It's a lot of fun, and we hope to see
you out there Sunday or any other time we're out at the parks. Contact me
or Anthony (W5LIC) if you have any questions about this event.

Thanks and 73!


Kori Rahman, WX5KR
*Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club*

*Vice-President and Club Call Sign KK5W Trustee*
Cell: (770) 298 8516

kori...@gmail.com

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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Gus Bernard via BVARC]

LOVE IT!

BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under
the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner,"
but that site piqued my interest!

Gus K5GMB


On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC 
wrote:

> Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
>
> Chris WB5ITT
>
>
> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
>
> 
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[BVARC] its official.

[M Reiter via BVARC]

Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just
VooDoo.
after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I
have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be
made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.   to sum
up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength
section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the
original  it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you
like more.  it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between.
can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out
magnesium.  it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or
should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok.   dont forget to
trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and
trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe
required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite,
because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise
or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six
wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions.
did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or
without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy.
(oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.)

so there you have it,  all you need to know to get out there and make a
perfect antenna.

Marc
Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO

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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Darren Harrison via BVARC]

 Nice! :)

Darren
W5AKC

From: BVARC  on behalf of M Reiter via BVARC 

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 12:25:27 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
Cc: M Reiter 
Subject: [BVARC] its official.

Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just 
VooDoo.
after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I have 
determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be made from 
metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.   to sum up my 
research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength section at 
some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the original  it 
must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you like more.  it 
should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between.  can be made from wire 
or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out magnesium.  it must be an 
open or closed circuit it definitely should or should not be resonate, SWR is 
bad, but a little is ok.   dont forget to trim your antenna until you have 
trimmed too much then add some back and trim some more. A balun unun 
unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe required but dont use one, they are 
rings of mystery metal called ferite, because they may be ferous and may be 
magic, they should be wound clockwise or counter clockwise or both and may have 
2 but can have as many as six wires in a mystical configuration that can not be 
shown in 2 dimensions. did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more 
ohm coax with or without loops to make something called ohms all nice and 
matchy matchy. (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for 
you.)

so there you have it,  all you need to know to get out there and make a perfect 
antenna.

Marc
Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO

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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Keith Dutson via BVARC]

 I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush with 
cash.
73, Keith NM5G
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 LOVE IT!
BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under the 
pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner," but 
that site piqued my interest!
Gus K5GMB

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC  
wrote:

Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
Chris WB5ITT 
https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
 
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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[mark janzer via BVARC]

 Rick Hiller, all those Radio Hotel articles on antennas have been summed up 
succinctly by Marc...
73MarkK5MGJ
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 12:34:46 PM CST, Darren Harrison via 
BVARC  wrote:  
 
  Nice! :)
Darren W5AKCFrom: BVARC  on behalf of M Reiter via 
BVARC 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 12:25:27 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
Cc: M Reiter 
Subject: [BVARC] its official. Yes I can now say with certainty that all 
antenna science is actually just VooDoo.after reading 100s of pages on an equal 
number of antenna configurations I have determined that the only common 
denominator is that antennas must be made from metal. and someone will let me 
know that is also not so.   to sum up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 
5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength section at some angle to something else that is 
larger or smaller than the original  it must be between touching the earth or 
200ft high whichever you like more.  it should be horizontal or vertical or an 
angle in-between.  can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do 
not rule out magnesium.  it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely 
should or should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok.   dont forget 
to trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and 
trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe required 
but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, because they 
may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise or counter 
clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six wires in a 
mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. did i mention the 
magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or without loops to make 
something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. (oof course you dont need 
this either because radios do this for you.)  
so there you have it,  all you need to know to get out there and make a perfect 
antenna.
MarcZombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO

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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Ameenah007 via BVARC]

Brilliant Sir. Simply Brilliant. Best explanation I've ever read.

Ameenah
AC5Rx

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:26 PM M Reiter via BVARC  wrote:

> Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just
> VooDoo.
> after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I
> have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be
> made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.   to sum
> up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength
> section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the
> original  it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you
> like more.  it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between.
> can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out
> magnesium.  it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or
> should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok.   dont forget to
> trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and
> trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe
> required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite,
> because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise
> or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six
> wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions.
> did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or
> without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy.
> (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.)
>
> so there you have it,  all you need to know to get out there and make a
> perfect antenna.
>
> Marc
> Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO
> 
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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Rick Hiller via BVARC]

Disagree.   Not Voo Doo.RF and anything associated with it has always been 
FM.F….’n  Magic.
W5RH

Sent from my i-Thingamajig

> On Feb 16, 2023, at 12:26 PM, M Reiter via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just 
> VooDoo.
> after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I 
> have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be 
> made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.   to sum 
> up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength 
> section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the 
> original  it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you 
> like more.  it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between.  can 
> be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out 
> magnesium.  it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or 
> should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok.   dont forget to trim 
> your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and trim some 
> more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe required but dont 
> use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, because they may be 
> ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise or counter clockwise 
> or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six wires in a mystical 
> configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. did i mention the magic 
> ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or without loops to make 
> something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. (oof course you dont need 
> this either because radios do this for you.)
>   
> so there you have it,  all you need to know to get out there and make a 
> perfect antenna.
> 
> Marc
> Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO
> 
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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[JP Pritchard via BVARC]

One of the few times I've seen most of the responding BVARC hams on this forum 
in nearly but not wholly, in steady but variable agreement. Yahoo!

JP K5JPP


> On 02/16/2023 12:47 PM Rick Hiller via BVARC  wrote:
> 
>  
> Disagree.   Not Voo Doo.RF and anything associated with it has always 
> been FM.F….’n  Magic.
> W5RH
> 
> Sent from my i-Thingamajig
> 
> > On Feb 16, 2023, at 12:26 PM, M Reiter via BVARC  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just 
> > VooDoo.
> > after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I 
> > have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be 
> > made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.   to sum 
> > up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength 
> > section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the 
> > original  it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you 
> > like more.  it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between.  
> > can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out 
> > magnesium.  it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or 
> > should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok.   dont forget to 
> > trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and 
> > trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe 
> > required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, 
> > because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise 
> > or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six 
> > wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. 
> > did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or 
> > without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. 
> > (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.)
> >   
> > so there you have it,  all you need to know to get out there and make a 
> > perfect antenna.
> > 
> > Marc
> > Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO
> > 
> > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[JP Pritchard via BVARC]

Just think. Each of the missiles fired at the balloon or balloons cost about 
half a million dollars.

JP K5JPP

> On 02/16/2023 12:34 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush 
> with cash.
> 
> 73, Keith NM5G
> 
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> LOVE IT!
> 
> BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under 
> the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner," 
> but that site piqued my interest!
> 
> Gus K5GMB
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC 
> mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org > wrote:
> 
> > > Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
> > 
> > Chris WB5ITT 
> > 
> > 
> > https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
> >  
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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Mike Hardwick via BVARC]

The missiles are new old stock. I bet the value is barely $250,000! The Air 
Force needed something to clear out the old inventory. 

Mike Hardwick.

> On Feb 16, 2023, at 1:01 PM, JP Pritchard via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just think. Each of the missiles fired at the balloon or balloons cost about 
> half a million dollars. 
> 
> JP K5JPP
>> On 02/16/2023 12:34 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush with 
>> cash.
>> 
>> 73, Keith NM5G
>> 
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> LOVE IT!
>> 
>> BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under 
>> the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner," 
>> but that site piqued my interest!
>> 
>> Gus K5GMB
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC 
>>  wrote: 
>> Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
>> 
>> Chris WB5ITT 
>> 
>> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
>>  
>>  
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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[M Reiter via BVARC]

Let me get this straight,  the GOVt spent a million dollars to shoot down a
10$ mylar happy face balloon with a $15 dollar raspberry Pi swinging on a
string underneath it?

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:35 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC 
wrote:

> I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush
> with cash.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC <
> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>
>
> LOVE IT!
>
> BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under
> the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner,"
> but that site piqued my interest!
>
> Gus K5GMB
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC <
> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>
> Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
>
> Chris WB5ITT
>
>
> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Darren Harrison via BVARC]

Maybe a million…but if was that small…the precision is amazing.

Darren
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 2:27:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico 
Balloon over Canada

Let me get this straight,  the GOVt spent a million dollars to shoot down a 10$ 
mylar happy face balloon with a $15 dollar raspberry Pi swinging on a string 
underneath it?

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:35 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC 
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:
I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush with 
cash.

73, Keith NM5G

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC 
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:


LOVE IT!

BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under the 
pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner," but 
that site piqued my interest!

Gus K5GMB


On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC 
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:
Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh

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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[David Hold via BVARC]

So if the ballon owner was a lawyer… are they going to sue Biden for
damages

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 2:28 PM M Reiter via BVARC  wrote:

> Let me get this straight,  the GOVt spent a million dollars to shoot down
> a 10$ mylar happy face balloon with a $15 dollar raspberry Pi swinging on a
> string underneath it?
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:35 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush
>> with cash.
>>
>> 73, Keith NM5G
>>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC <
>> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> LOVE IT!
>>
>> BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under
>> the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner,"
>> but that site piqued my interest!
>>
>> Gus K5GMB
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC <
>> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>>
>> Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
>>
>> Chris WB5ITT
>>
>>
>> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Chris Luppens via BVARC]

Not sure about happy face. No Raspberry, but an APRS and/or WSPR transponder.  (You think they used WSPR to find it?) Typos Compliments of iPhoneChris LuppensOn Feb 16, 2023, at 2:27 PM, M Reiter via BVARC  wrote:Let me get this straight,  the GOVt spent a million dollars to shoot down a 10$ mylar happy face balloon with a $15 dollar raspberry Pi swinging on a string underneath it?On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:35 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC  wrote:
I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush with cash.73, Keith NM5G





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LOVE IT!BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner," but that site piqued my interest!Gus K5GMBOn Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC  wrote:Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdhChris WB5ITT https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/ 

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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[John Denison via BVARC]

I'm guessing they're about $60,000 each, and it would probably be 
cheaper to fire cash at the balloons. The plus side is that the recovery 
effort would be much quicker.


I was wondering why the US Air Force was in Canada anyway.

73
John Denison
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On 2/16/2023 2:02 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote:
The missiles are new old stock. I bet the value is barely $250,000! 
The Air Force needed something to clear out the old inventory.


Mike Hardwick.

On Feb 16, 2023, at 1:01 PM, JP Pritchard via BVARC  
wrote:



Just think. *Each* of the missiles fired at the balloon or balloons 
cost about half a million dollars.


JP K5JPP

On 02/16/2023 12:34 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC  wrote:



I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be 
flush with cash.


73, Keith NM5G

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via 
BVARC  wrote:



LOVE IT!

BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked 
under the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting. I'm not a 
"ballooner," but that site piqued my interest!


Gus K5GMB


On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC 
 wrote:


Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh

Chris WB5ITT


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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[mark janzer via BVARC]

 Does K9YO get a bill from the Air Force for the flight time, fuel, labor and 
materials?
73MarkK5MGJ
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 02:45:13 PM CST, John Denison via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
  I'm guessing they're about $60,000 each, and it would probably be cheaper to 
fire cash at the balloons. The plus side is that the recovery effort would be 
much quicker.
 
 I was wondering why the US Air Force was in Canada anyway.
 
 73
 John Denison
 KD5YOU
 
 On 2/16/2023 2:02 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote:
  
 
 The missiles are new old stock. I bet the value is barely $250,000! The Air 
Force needed something to clear out the old inventory. 
 
 Mike Hardwick. 
 
On Feb 16, 2023, at 1:01 PM, JP Pritchard via BVARC  wrote:
 
 
  
  
 Just think. Each of the missiles fired at the balloon or balloons cost about 
half a million dollars. 
   
JP K5JPP  
  On 02/16/2023 12:34 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC  wrote:   
   

   I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush with 
cash.   
   73, Keith NM5G   
  On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC 
 wrote:   
   
   LOVE IT!   
   BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under 
the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner," but 
that site piqued my interest!   
   Gus K5GMB   
   
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   Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh   
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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Brian Shircliffe via BVARC]

They sure did.  Here is a link to a website where you can track the balloon.

http://wspr.rocks/

Just type in K9YO and do a search for the last week then the map button to
see its last known transmissions.  It was using 20m and maybe 5 watts but I
bet it was more like .5 watts.



On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 3:59 PM mark janzer via BVARC 
wrote:

> Does K9YO get a bill from the Air Force for the flight time, fuel, labor
> and materials?
>
> 73
> Mark
> K5MGJ
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 02:45:13 PM CST, John Denison via BVARC <
> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>
>
> I'm guessing they're about $60,000 each, and it would probably be cheaper
> to fire cash at the balloons. The plus side is that the recovery effort
> would be much quicker.
>
> I was wondering why the US Air Force was in Canada anyway.
>
> 73
> John Denison
> KD5YOU
>
> On 2/16/2023 2:02 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote:
>
> The missiles are new old stock. I bet the value is barely $250,000! The
> Air Force needed something to clear out the old inventory.
>
> Mike Hardwick.
>
> On Feb 16, 2023, at 1:01 PM, JP Pritchard via BVARC 
>  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Just think. *Each* of the missiles fired at the balloon or balloons cost
> about half a million dollars.
>
> JP K5JPP
>
> On 02/16/2023 12:34 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush
> with cash.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC
>   wrote:
>
>
> LOVE IT!
>
> BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under
> the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner,"
> but that site piqued my interest!
>
> Gus K5GMB
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC <
> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>
> Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
>
> Chris WB5ITT
>
>
> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
>
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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Brian Shircliffe via BVARC]

Here is another website to track all of the pico balloons.

https://nibbb.org/links-to-locate-and-track/

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 4:14 PM Brian Shircliffe 
wrote:

> They sure did.  Here is a link to a website where you can track the
> balloon.
>
> http://wspr.rocks/
>
> Just type in K9YO and do a search for the last week then the map button to
> see its last known transmissions.  It was using 20m and maybe 5 watts but I
> bet it was more like .5 watts.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 3:59 PM mark janzer via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
>> Does K9YO get a bill from the Air Force for the flight time, fuel, labor
>> and materials?
>>
>> 73
>> Mark
>> K5MGJ
>>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 02:45:13 PM CST, John Denison via BVARC
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm guessing they're about $60,000 each, and it would probably be cheaper
>> to fire cash at the balloons. The plus side is that the recovery effort
>> would be much quicker.
>>
>> I was wondering why the US Air Force was in Canada anyway.
>>
>> 73
>> John Denison
>> KD5YOU
>>
>> On 2/16/2023 2:02 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote:
>>
>> The missiles are new old stock. I bet the value is barely $250,000! The
>> Air Force needed something to clear out the old inventory.
>>
>> Mike Hardwick.
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2023, at 1:01 PM, JP Pritchard via BVARC 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Just think. *Each* of the missiles fired at the balloon or balloons cost
>> about half a million dollars.
>>
>> JP K5JPP
>>
>> On 02/16/2023 12:34 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush
>> with cash.
>>
>> 73, Keith NM5G
>>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC
>>   wrote:
>>
>>
>> LOVE IT!
>>
>> BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under
>> the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner,"
>> but that site piqued my interest!
>>
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>>
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>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC <
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>>
>> Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
>>
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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC]

On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote:
I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas 
must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.


Not so.  Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic 
conductors.  I've even heard of antennas that are made of air




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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Mike Hardwick via BVARC]

 I personally like the sea water antenna.
Sea Water Antenna


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On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 04:47:07 PM CST, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN 
via BVARC  wrote:  
 
 
On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote:
> I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas 
> must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.

Not so.  Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic 
conductors.  I've even heard of antennas that are made of air



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Re: [BVARC] 2m VERTICAL USB

[Rob KC5RET via BVARC]

Hello all,

I got on this last week from my RV in Pearland.  It was me, KC5RET, Bubba
and Rob (?) K5TPC.  Nice to get something to work that's not normally used.

I can't make it tonight but I do plan on being there next Thursday, Feb. 23
on 144.270 USB at 7p



On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:46 PM Bubba Flowers via BVARC 
wrote:

> A few of us (Robert K5TPC  and me Bubba KI5MBL)are going to try ...again
> to get a 2m VERTICAL USB chat group going on Thursdays  at 7pm local on
> 144.270 MHz.  All are welcome.   Just a rag chew no specific topic.
> 73
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> Bubba
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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Rick Hiller via BVARC]

How about the plasma antenna?Sent from my i-ThingamajigOn Feb 16, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC  wrote:
I personally like the sea water antenna.Sea Water AntennaSea Water Antenna





On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 04:47:07 PM CST, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC  wrote:



On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote:> I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.Not so.  Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors.  I've even heard of antennas that are made of airBrazos Valley Amateur Radio ClubBVARC mailing listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.orgPublicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ 

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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Travis Burgess via BVARC]

https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/11/18/198879/navy-antenna-using-seawater-instead-of-metal/
Navy Antenna Using Seawater instead of 
Metal
The Electrolytic Fluid Antenna has a range of 30 miles and could be used on sea 
or land.
www.technologyreview.com
Travis
K5HTB

From: BVARC  on behalf of Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via 
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 4:46 PM
To: M Reiter via BVARC 
Cc: Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] its official.


On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote:
> I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas
> must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.

Not so.  Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic
conductors.  I've even heard of antennas that are made of air



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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Bill Walker via BVARC]

Absolutely beautiful, and hilarious Sir!

As a relative newbie, I’ve also been reading, studying, and actually attempting 
to build, and test, a couple of different antenna designs…

While I truly am enjoying the process, and the experience, admittedly, you’re 
diatribe tickled my funny bone. I also share much of your perspective on this 
topic.

Ironically, as an “OG” computer engineer, I’ve spent most of my career & life, 
trying to prevent signals from coupling, or radiating from either silicon 
devices, or from the PCB’s that they are mounted on Necessary for the obvious 
reasons. 

Hence, getting into the “hobby”, I had hoped that building antenna devices to 
intentionally radiate, would be less obscure, than aspects of my job… 
I like a rather interesting challenge, so why not try it, right?

1-My 1st attempt was a 70cm, 7 element quad. Ironically, after completion, and 
minor tweaks, it actually tested out as expected. I was using a VNA to examine 
its characteristics. Remarkably, in receive mode, it does seem to work quite 
well, even well directionally. 
However, regardless of my testing, I do not have the nerve to actually key the 
mic, without fear of smoking my final amps at 420-450MHz. (Lol)
2-The 2nd effort has been an attempt at building a 10m coax double Bazooka. 
This antenna has been a bit more interesting, at least with respect to “tuning 
and pruning” portion of the process.
It looked like fun project, so I’ve made several attempts to get it properly 
aligned at 28.85MHz. It’s close now, and amazingly, I’ve managed to get the SWR 
down to 1.016:1, at 28.750MHz. It even has a reasonable impedance, measuring 
~55 ohms  w/1.06nF of capacitance.)
(But, I will not key the mic with it either, for fear of destroying my rig 
finals.)

Using it, I have now had the pleasure to listen to DX’s from many far-away 
places with the results the project. The most recent being a DX from Maryland 
to Chile, and I could actually hear both ends of the discussion. No doubt, 
these good folks are cranking serious power, and punching it out on beam 
mounted towers, to propagate those distances. 

This is too much fun to listen to these far away conversations. However, again, 
I don’t trust the results of “my” antenna work, lest I I destroy my finals. 
But, it seems like it actually is pretty good for listening!
(I think that I’ll purchase a “real antenna”!)

Bill Walker

> On Feb 16, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Ameenah007 via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> Brilliant Sir. Simply Brilliant. Best explanation I've ever read. 
> 
> Ameenah
> AC5Rx
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:26 PM M Reiter via BVARC  wrote:
>> Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just 
>> VooDoo.
>> after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I 
>> have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be 
>> made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.   to sum 
>> up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength 
>> section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the 
>> original  it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you 
>> like more.  it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between.  can 
>> be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out 
>> magnesium.  it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or 
>> should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok.   dont forget to 
>> trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and 
>> trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe 
>> required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, 
>> because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise 
>> or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six 
>> wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. did 
>> i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or without 
>> loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. (oof course 
>> you dont need this either because radios do this for you.)
>>   
>> so there you have it,  all you need to know to get out there and make a 
>> perfect antenna.
>> 
>> Marc
>> Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO
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[BVARC] Fwd: Hobby Club’s Missing Balloon Feared Shot Down By USAF

[Roy Storey via BVARC]

My son passed this on...

-- Forwarded message -
From: 
Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 3:58 PM
Subject: Hobby Club’s Missing Balloon Feared Shot Down By USAF
To: Roy Storey 


Looks like you were right!  Check out this site
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf


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Re: [BVARC] its official.

[Luke Ritter via BVARC]

Probably possible. Just a highly RF transmitter optimized tesla coil.

Get Outlook for Android

From: BVARC  on behalf of Rick Hiller via BVARC 

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 5:26:51 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
Cc: Rick Hiller 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] its official.

How about the plasma antenna?

Sent from my i-Thingamajig

On Feb 16, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC  wrote:


I personally like the sea water antenna.

Sea Water Antenna


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Sea Water Antenna



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On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote:
> I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas
> must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.

Not so.  Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic
conductors.  I've even heard of antennas that are made of air




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Re: [BVARC] The US Airforce may have shot down an Amateur Radio Pico Balloon over Canada

[Christopher Boone via BVARC]

They were there at the invitation of the Canadian government.. they
followed the rules...

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 2:45 PM John Denison via BVARC 
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> I'm guessing they're about $60,000 each, and it would probably be cheaper
> to fire cash at the balloons. The plus side is that the recovery effort
> would be much quicker.
>
> I was wondering why the US Air Force was in Canada anyway.
>
> 73
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>
> On 2/16/2023 2:02 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote:
>
> The missiles are new old stock. I bet the value is barely $250,000! The
> Air Force needed something to clear out the old inventory.
>
> Mike Hardwick.
>
> On Feb 16, 2023, at 1:01 PM, JP Pritchard via BVARC 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Just think. *Each* of the missiles fired at the balloon or balloons cost
> about half a million dollars.
>
> JP K5JPP
>
> On 02/16/2023 12:34 PM Keith Dutson via BVARC 
>  wrote:
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>
>
> I would like to meet the ham who paid for that balloon.  Must be flush
> with cash.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 10:28:57 AM CST, Gus Bernard via BVARC
>   wrote:
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>
> LOVE IT!
>
> BTW, the Naval Academy's midshipmen balloon experiment site (linked under
> the pico balloon picture) is extremely interesting.  I'm not a "ballooner,"
> but that site piqued my interest!
>
> Gus K5GMB
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM Christopher Boone via BVARC <
> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>
> Think we're getting a little zealous here latelysmdh
>
> Chris WB5ITT
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>
> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/the-us-airforce-may-have-shot-down-an-amateur-radio-pico-balloon-over-canada/
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