Re: fundamental dispatcher strategy flawed?

2006-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

nate wrote:
 The fact that you can't use a few words out of an entire language
 (absent a small configuration change) is a minor inconvenience at best,
 and hardly reason enough to change the way Dispatcher works.

Unbelievable!  If that is the attitude of developers on this platform,
I won't
be pinning much hope on the future of cake.

Any strategy that works sometimes and not sometimes is fundamentally
flawed.  It's not a minor inconvenience, because it creates a situation
where the undesirable behaviour need to be explicitly documented.

And as far as I can see, no one has bothered to document it.  Is that
why
the mailing list is full of people complaining how difficult cake is to

understand???

Kace


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Adding a child record

2006-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've got my associations all setup but want to have an add link below
the list where the parent key will be setup.

Example: viewing a category with the list of titles. Want to click new
title and the category predefined.

How do I construct this url?


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CAKE_ADMIN and /bare

2006-05-27 Thread Federico

Hi people,

With an older version (say, two/three weeks ago) of Cake I was able  
to make bare requests to admin actions, eg.: /bare/admin/books/index.

Now while /bare works fine with regular URLs, requesting /bare/ 
admin/* yelds a missing AdminController error.

Was this change in behaviour intentional, and if so, how can I  
restore the previous?

TIA,



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Re: Error after installing oceancms

2006-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi

Any results? Thanks


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Re: fundamental dispatcher strategy flawed?

2006-05-27 Thread gwoo

@Kace:
Developers have opinions, as you have clearly expressed.
PhpNut, Nate and I, along with others regularly discuss our  
differences of opinion.
This is actually what makes Cake work so well. As AD7six pointed out  
twice, routes
is the answer to your question.

Count how many people have trouble and then comeback saying I  
figured it out
or wow, this is neat or as pat recently said i may be getting a  
hang of this
and you will find that there are many people enjoying Cake.

That said, it  sounds to me like you are looking for reasons not to  
use a framework.
Understand that each framework is one of personal tastes. You say any  
strategy that
works sometimes and not sometimes is fundamentally flawed, when in  
fact this is the purpose
of the 80% rule that most frameworks live by. For the other 20%, you  
could always modify
things to your liking. 

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Re: CAKE_ADMIN and /bare

2006-05-27 Thread gwoo

Actually, bare with admin routes should never have worked, and never  
has for me.
However, with the RequestHander, bare routes are a thing of the past.


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Re: CakePHP 1.1.2.2955 Release

2006-05-27 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hi leinchu,Why you can´t use? You are being too vague... please, tell us more about your problem, don´t just say I can´t get this working...Marcelo.On 5/27/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I try to update my cake from 0.10.8.2047_rc5 to 1.1.3.2967,Then I found I can't use $controllername-modelname-findAll,What can I do ?
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Re: Quick Fix Release

2006-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks to your great work!


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hasAndBelongsToMany Manual error

2006-05-27 Thread cwsTrummer

hello

i found an incorrect line at manual.cakephp.org at the definition of
HABTM

the array contains

 'foreignKey' = 'tag_id',
 'associationForeignKey'= 'post_id',

but it has to be as following:

 'foreignKey' = 'post_id',
 'associationForeignKey'= 'tag_id',

i don't know where to post this. hopefully someone of the documentation
team reads this. i also want to help with the documentation. please
contact me. currently i am writing the yahoo ui helper.

cu
chri


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Strange behaviour with Java applet

2006-05-27 Thread darsh

Hi guys

I'm a fairly experience web developer and I am at a dead end here. I
have a site that I am putting into Cake from an XHTML Strict prototype.
The site uses a Java applet that pre-dates IPIX for doing panoramas, in
this case, for the inside of a motor car.

The Java applet functions 100% in the XHTML site, but when I Cake-ified
that page, it stops working, and even causes Firefox to crash.

One clue I have is that the JPEG image used by the applet is sitting in
WEBROOT_DIR/assets/models/modelname/360/int.jpg, and since /assets
is not a special Cake directory, perhaps when the GET request is
being put through from the Java applet to the Cake site, Cake is trying
to do something to the file before returning it.

I have fairly good evidence that this is the case. See the code and
experiment below:

This is the code:
---
applet
name=ilookpano
code=ilookpano.class
codebase=/assets/vendor/ilookpano/
mayscript=true
height=264
width=390
archive=/assets/vendor/ilookpano/ilookpano.zip
param name=initialview value=358.70, 0.00, 0.63
param name=filename
value=/assets/models/passenger/citigolf/360/int.jpg
param name=splash
value=/assets/vendor/ilookpano/360_interior_splash.gif
param name=toolbar value=/assets/vendor/ilookpano/toolbar.gif
param name=backgroundcolor value=FF
param name=progressfillcolor value=003366
/applet
---

That code does not work in the Cake site, but does work in a plain HTML
site.

1) I created 2 virtualhosts, one called http://site.cake and one called
http://site.html (using my HOSTS file to setup the fake domain names).
The http://site.html virtualhost simply hosts the plain html site, with
no Cake installation. The other virtualhost hosts my Cake site.

2) I changed all paths in the code above to http://site.html/assets/...
and the applet worked.

3) I changed all the paths to http://site.cake/assets/... and it
refused to work.

So... what the heck is going on!?


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Re: Strange behaviour with Java applet

2006-05-27 Thread bigdog

Just an idea.  Maybe you should put your java class file in the Webroot
directory of cake? app/webroot/files ?


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Re: fundamental dispatcher strategy flawed?

2006-05-27 Thread 100rk

 ...how many people have trouble and then comeback saying...

I think it is caused by MVC rules, which not everyone is prepared to
follow. There is many people in this fast-living world who try to ommit
time with printed manual and/or study foreign code.

@Kace: I really don't think 'mailing list is full of people complaining
how difficult cake is to understand' ;-) Show me those threads which
aren't finished by solution. I think routes could satisfy Your needs.
If not, be more detailed, pleace - there is surely possible way (or
You're trying to use CakePHP by way it is not supposed to).


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Re: Multi-Step Form

2006-05-27 Thread AD7six

Hi John/all,

If anyone is still interested: I actually did this a couple of weeks
ago to provide a search page. I'm currently trying to make my solution
more generic so that I can share it in a meaningful way.

The solution I had, which I didn't realise fitted the PRG model until
reviewing the links above, relies upon a search form which redirects to
a results page with the query defined in the url (e.g.
/Boats/results/Mode/Sale/ManufacturerIn/1/ManufacturerIn/3/TypeIn/8/LengthTotalFrom/10/LengthTotalTo/15/)

The juicy bit is generating the search form automatically, converting
the query to and from a url and displaying the query in words on the
results page. All to keep individual controller code to a minimum.

More soon :),

AD7six


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Re: fundamental dispatcher strategy flawed?

2006-05-27 Thread Bret Kuhns

I completely agree with 100rk. MVC can be a design paradigm that people
don't quite grasp right away. There are lots of people who don't
understand Rails because of the same reason. But once those people
start getting answers on the group/IRC/manual/API/etc and play with
cakePHP more, they will begin to understand it as qwoo pointed out
(isn't that how everything works?). Kace's question comes from a lack
of understanding of how cake works, and his reponse to nate's solution
shows he's not willing to learn. It's people that aren't willing to
accept the paradigm and won't spend the time to understand how to
utilize it that hurts cake... not the developers.


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Re: hasAndBelongsToMany Manual error

2006-05-27 Thread Gustavo Carreno

On 5/27/06, cwsTrummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i don't know where to post this. hopefully someone of the documentation
 team reads this. i also want to help with the documentation. please
 contact me. currently i am writing the yahoo ui helper.

Goto http://trac.cakephp.org, register and place a ticket with the
Documentation and 1.x.x.x on the appropriate drop-downs.

-- 
 If you know Red Hat you know Red Hat,
If you know Slackware you know Linux 

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Re: prevent expiration of session info?

2006-05-27 Thread Dave

How would the Cake database sessions help? Wouldn't there still be a
browser component (cookie, URL key) that would go away at the end of
the browser session?

Otherwise, I'll try what you suggested. The encryption class you
supplied looks like just the thing. Do you know how to make sure all
actions (i.e. all URLs) use the cookie for the base URL instead of
generating new cookies? I was having that problem in Camino, anyway.


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Re: fundamental dispatcher strategy flawed?

2006-05-27 Thread nate

Strategy?  That's a pretty weighty word for something so minor,
There's nothing in this situation that needs to be documented.  If you
know how to use PHP, you know what the reserved words are.  If you know
how to use Cake, you know how to write a route to get around that.

@All: just goes to show you that you can't make everybody happy *and*
develop good software.  If you want to go over to the land of flowers
and butterflies where everyone is happy all the time, and all
development happens be group consensus, go use the Zend Crapwork.

@Kace:
You can't always get what you want.
No you can't always get what you want.
You can't always get what you want.
But if you try sometimes,
well you might just find,
you get what you ned!!
Ahhh yeah!

And really, that's the point of opinionated software.


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Re: Multi-Step Form

2006-05-27 Thread John Zimmerman [gmail]
That sounds interesting.I am redoing what I was writing to comply with Cake concepts now that I have learned more Cake.I too am shooting for something generic and re-usable.I looked at incorporating the pagination class, but at least right now I don't think it suits my process.
On 5/27/06, AD7six [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi John/all,If anyone is still interested: I actually did this a couple of weeksago to provide a search page. I'm currently trying to make my solutionmore generic so that I can share it in a meaningful way.
The solution I had, which I didn't realise fitted the PRG model untilreviewing the links above, relies upon a search form which redirects toa results page with the query defined in the url (e.g./Boats/results/Mode/Sale/ManufacturerIn/1/ManufacturerIn/3/TypeIn/8/LengthTotalFrom/10/LengthTotalTo/15/)
The juicy bit is generating the search form automatically, convertingthe query to and from a url and displaying the query in words on theresults page. All to keep individual controller code to a minimum.
More soon :),AD7six
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Problem with 1.1.x release

2006-05-27 Thread GregL

I installed the new cake folder, but now I get the errors pasted below
at the top of my page. Probably related, the little debug section with
database queries and query times is missing.

Notice: Undefined index: fields in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 978

Notice: Undefined index: conditions in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 985

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 1199

Notice: Undefined index: order in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 986

Notice: Undefined index: fields in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 978

Notice: Undefined index: conditions in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 985

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 1199

Notice: Undefined index: order in
/Library/WebServer/Documents/phplibs/cake/libs/model/datasources/dbo_source.php
on line 986


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database table setup

2006-05-27 Thread modmans2ndcoming

In cakephp, would it not be better to set up a multiple to multiple
relationship using an intermediate table? How well does cake deal with
that situation?


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Re: database table setup

2006-05-27 Thread John Zimmerman [gmail]
This depends on your context and the data involved.Cake does support the hasAndBelongsToMany relationship which does use third table to link the other two. You would use this for assigning tags or labels to pictures, posts, or another object.
On 5/27/06, modmans2ndcoming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In cakephp, would it not be better to set up a multiple to multiplerelationship using an intermediate table? How well does cake deal withthat situation?
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Re: database table setup

2006-05-27 Thread nate

Yes, it is a join table in Cake terminology:
http://manual.cakephp.org/chapter/6; see Section 3 about
hasAndBelongsToMany relationships.


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