Re: [Care2002-developers] Proofing
Hi all, my first post to the care2x community. I have to admit that i was a bit dazzled with the information arount Care2X. Some questions may point out where i was confuzed in the Care2x information * difference between Care2002 and Care2x? * difference between Care2x HIS and Care2x PM. When I open the two demo's next to each other in my favorite browser [Opera 7.5]. I don't see much difference between the 2 distributions, other than some reduced functionality in the PM version. * What is Ataraxia? * difference between the domains. care2x.com, care2x.net, care2x.it, care2x.org seem to be perfect mirrors. [which is the main site? I guess it's care2x.com because that's where sourceforge project points to. When where the mirrors updated.] care2x.co.uk seems to be an non-uppated mirror [different start page] care2x.nl seems to be registered by a dutch care2x developer but not installed yet. care2x.de is a completely different site. Contains Different information. A link to 'main'-site is provided but points to care2x.net iso care2x.com I don't make any suggestions. I'm only telling you where ai was confuzed. Greetings. --- Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Wilfried, > > On Thursday 13 May 2004 03:18, Wilfried Goedert wrote: > > I hope to make a lovely high flexible info system that offers some > > orientation inside care2x. I don't like to touch the main developement > > of care2x what is placed at care2x.net, care2x.com and care2x.org > > All these things are nice and respectable and surely helpful for dessiminating > information. But it starts to create confusion because: > > a) > Your domain says care2x but its website says care2x-plugins > > b) > Your contents point to or use more care2x original contents and less to > anything related to plugins. > > c) > If you are planning to promote your plugins project, you should have been > using the care2x-plugins domain at sf.net or registered an extra domain like > www.care2x-plugins.org > > d) > Your logo breaks the "single corporate identity" that we are painstakingly > developing. > > And since it also starts creating confusion, it will be fair for all of us if > you give us your clear statement why you are doing all these things. > > 1) > > Are you preparing to make a fork of Care2x? > > or > > 2) > Are you just wanting to add an information media to the main project but just > want to be 100% independent (meaning you do not want anybody telling you > things)? > > Some clarifications: > > To point number 1: > > Be honest. Do not be afraid to admit it if you want to fork the project. > Forking is guaranteed by gpl and is usually done by persons out of > personal/political reasons. If this is the case, tell us the soonest possible > so that people can decide which way they are going to and with whom they want > to work with. > > To point number 2: > > If you do not want to fork but want to have a personal info platform using the > main project's materials, state it clearly for all of us to know that it is > your personal initiative and therefore you are obliged to follow only your > own decisions. > > If you tell us that you are willing to cooperate and make concessions, then > please follow these miminum requirements for your care2x.de: > > -- i. Do not use the plugins project as the main idea in your care2x.de > website > -- ii. Do not break the "single corporate identity". > -- iii. Use the main care2x logo. > > > Respectfully, > Elpidio > > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband > Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest > 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id%62&alloc_ida84&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Proofing
Hi all, I personally think Mr. Wilfried is doing a good thing on his site, but the only concern i have is about the domain name which brings some confusion. My impression is that the current state of care2x.de is just an alpha version of some interesting growing web-site, and that Mr. Wilfried is putting it public in order for others [like care2x developers] to see what he is aiming at. After reading all archived mails of the last months i can clearly see the good things that he has contributed so i guess this care2x.de is another good contribution to care2x. My suggestion would be * bring care2x.de back as mirror for European users * register care2x-extra.org/de/com for plugins, extra info etc... and clearly state that it is not the 'official' site * keep link in care2x -> care2x-extra and visa versa OR * Include the extra's and plugin info on the main website in another SubMenu and make Mr. Wilfiried responsible for that section Greetings BTW, if you think i should mind my own business as a newbie, please say so. Than i will just go on reading and learning and maybe contributing to care2x. --- Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wilfried, > > On Thursday 13 May 2004 12:21, Wilfried Goedert wrote: > > EL> Are you preparing to make a fork of Care2x? > > > > Hahaha realy absolutely NO! > > > > sorry for crying. And if you look inside care2x.de you realy can see > > that I don'nt make my own thing. > > Judging on the sarcasm and on the resulting analysis of the ramblings that you > dumped in your reply, one can conclude that you have no intention of > following the 3 minimum requirements I listed, not even one. > > So let us make it final now. > > §§§ > > You want to make it according to your wishes disregarding the danger of sowing > confusion and eventually fragmenting the project. > > In this regard, let it be clear to all concerned that the care2x.de is a > private move of Mr. Gödert and is totally independent of the Care2x project. > Care2x has nothing more to do with care2x.de and will not sanction any > information or claims done within that website. > > The information and references to Mr. Gödert within the Care2x's websites > will be maintained since he rightfully earned the credits for his > contributions to the project in the past. The information will remain as is > unless he personally requests it to be removed. > > We are all free human beings, so anybody can work with him if one likes (or > needs) to. It will not affect one's relationship to Care2x. However, one must > keep in mind that care2x.de is NOT the Care2x project. Avoid interchanging > the two. > > Let this closes this matter for good. > > > I am fully aware that this might fragment the project. But I believe that it > is better to do it now than later, otherwise we can never move on. It is > impossible to satisfy every individual so the last resort is to let that > individual free and go his own way. > > Respectfully, > Elpidio Latorilla > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband > Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest > 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id%62&alloc_ida84&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
[Care2002-developers] howto promote Care2x
Hello, i'm writing a project proposition for a medical institute to integrate 3 different databases/software systems into the care2x software. They will only need a minor part of the complete practice management. Is there some document which can be used to promote the Care2x system to future client. Benefits of care2x, benefits of open source, security etc... Roel = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] realworld implemetation
Hi Emir, it seems we are in the same situation. I'm also trying to convince a medical instute to let me install and customize Care2x for their needs. I have the feeling that more and more consultants/freelancers/developers will feel the urge to try to convince some client to use the Care2x HIS. It would be nice if we could share our experience and find a way to create a helpfull promotional document discussing the benefits of Care2x in a real world case. There is already a lot of interesting information available, but i think it should be grouped in one location. e.g http://care2x.org/consultancies.php greetz Roel De Meester --- Emir Prcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > I am in a process of convincing a hospital in Bosnia to implement the CARE2x > and I would need some help. > I also have no clue what DRG is and all those codes ICD10 and OPS (is that > insurance related) can that be edited since they use only latin for > diagnosis. > Regarding the billing: is it possible to include all the services done to > patient automaticly (just click on the patient). What about data integrity? > Where else, if at all, is Care2x installed and working (what hospitals)? > > > > I have noticed something in Nursing module in Wards. > In Quick Informer there is this > > Doctor (on Duty): > > Is this active, cause it seems like it is not. I have tried setting a doc in > DOC Scheduler for a specific department but it does not show in Quick > Informer. Also loging in as the doctor on duty for that day in that ward and > in that department does not bring any changes > > And one more thing, in Fever chart when I click on Notes (enter new notes, > or Diagnosis (etc) I keep getting SQL at the top of the screen. > > (mysql): SELECT * FROM care_encounter_notes WHERE encounter_nr=2004000126 > AND type_nr=12 ORDER BY date,time > > Hope I'm not bugging too much... > > > Best regards, > > Emir > > -- > NEU : GMX Internet.FreeDSL > Ab sofort DSL-Tarif ohne Grundgebühr: http://www.gmx.net/dsl > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
[Care2002-developers] how to assign a patient to a doctor
I've been experimenting with the PM demo. i've created a new patient, and now i want to assign that patient to a certain doctor. So.. how do i make an appointement? Greetings = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
RE: [Care2002-developers] how to assign a patient to a doctor
The HIS demo at http://www.care2x.com/foundry/index.php gives me an error The requested URL /foundry/modules/appointment_scheduler/new_start.php was not found on this server. So that's why i tried the older PM demo.. http://care2002.sourceforge.net/pm/index.php If i clicke appointments, i'm requested the username password, the next screen shows me the appointments list of today [There is no pending appointment today]. In this screen there is no way to add a new appointment for a patient. So i guess i have to do that somewhere else.. Any idea? roel --- Tim S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Hi Roel; As I understand PM is just a scaled down version of HIS. No changes in usage have been done as yet. Although some are planned. As such, a patient at present is not assigned to a specific doctor only. But if add an appointment, if I remember correctly, you can add to a doctor who is working at that time. And of course, you can view the patient interactions to see which doctors have seen this patient. I do not know if this answers your questions. Maybe someone else would like to add a more detailed explanation? TimS >From: Roel De Meester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: care2x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Care2002-developers] how to assign a patient to a doctor >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 08:00:24 +0100 (BST) > >I've been experimenting with the PM demo. >i've created a new patient, >and now i want to assign that patient to a certain doctor. >So.. how do i make an appointement? > >Greetings > >= >God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. > > >--- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g >Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. >Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click >___ >Care2002-developers mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.---This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10gGet certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click___Care2002-developers mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
RE: [Care2002-developers] realworld implemetation
I'm in the process of buying a new house so this week my time is limited, in coming weeks i'll try to setup some infrastructure for care2x consultants to share good and bad presentations/documents/project propositions etc. In the meanwhile i would ask consultants to share info through this mailing-channel. For starters i'd like to build up a list of consultants who are currently in the process of convincing health organisations to use care2x. In a later stage we could try to setup some CMS or forum for this purpose. Name | Country |private or government client | Expected # users | Install or Customize ------- Roel De Meester | BE | Government | 20 | Customize matthew | US | --- matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am game Roel email me I can let you know how things are going in new > orleans and new york. Traveling to New York on tuesday to discuss this with > a home health company. > > Matt > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Elpidio Latorilla > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] realworld implemetation > > > Hello Roel, > > this is a very good idea. Can you please manage this? Please organize all > those in the consulting/freelancing sector for the purpose of sharing > experience and knowledge. > > Just use this mailing list so that all of us can still benefit from your > knowledge. > > Thanks in advance, > Elpidio > > On Tuesday 25 May 2004 06:34, Roel De Meester wrote: > > it seems we are in the same situation. I'm also trying to convince a > > medical instute to let me install and customize Care2x for their needs. > > I have the feeling that more and more consultants/freelancers/developers > > will feel the urge to try to convince some client to use the Care2x HIS. > > > > It would be nice if we could share our experience and find a way to create > > a helpfull promotional document discussing the benefits of Care2x in a > real > > world case. > > > > There is already a lot of interesting information available, but i think > it > > should be grouped in one location. e.g http://care2x.org/consultancies.php > > > > greetz > > Roel De Meester > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149&alloc_id�66&opÌk > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149&alloc_id�66&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] realworld implemetation
All this is very interesting as a marketing tool for consultants towards future clients. I'd like to build up a information database where consultants can share ideas on how they persuaded clients [or at least tried to persuade them]. What things clients like to here, what things they don't like to here. How much time they have spend on installation, customization. How do the communicate with the technical staff in order to obtain a secure installation. ... and many more Success-stories are welcome, but i'm not that interested in them. Maybe we could adapt your typo3 installation for that reason, but i think installing a searchable forum may also be a valid option. greetz i did read the articles , and took out some interesting parts for my proposal. tnx roel --- Wilfried Goedert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: MD5 > > Guten Tag Roel De Meester, > > because you are trying the coordination for consultancies. Meanwhile i > set up the beginning of the multilang version. > > My personal construction is at initial state: > http://www.care2x.de/About.392.0.html > > There are 2 possibilities: a selflisting and selfinformation. > > This don't need much human resources. > See some example of dirction we can do it: > > http://typo3.org/about/references/ > > or here a short possibility for local search by country: > http://typo3.org/about/consultancies-hosting/ > > As you see it is flexible enough to share independent to other > resources: > http://typo3.com/Consultancies.1248.0.html > > keep a look to the details page. > The registration process how to get listed > http://typo3.com/How_to_get_listed.1455.0.html > > > I personally tend to a mixed solution of independent selfregistration > a consultancies team for case studies, reviews... > http://typo3.com/References.1249.0.html > > teamleaders and members are selected by activity and the consultancies > themself. changing in a rotation. are not allowed to exclude someone. > we are doing open source and any activity is wellcome and not > supressed as the consortium tries to do. > > Try to do the work with a database and not pure html. > > the papers i send you where interesting? > > > am Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2004 um 13:39 schrieben Sie: > > RDM> I'm in the process of buying a new house so this week my time is limited, > RDM> in coming weeks i'll try to setup some infrastructure for care2x consultants to > share > RDM> good and bad presentations/documents/project propositions etc. > RDM> In the meanwhile i would ask consultants to share info through this > mailing-channel. > > RDM> For starters i'd like to build up a list of consultants who are currently in > the process of > RDM> convincing health organisations to use care2x. In a later stage we could try to > setup some > CMS or > RDM> forum for this purpose. > > RDM> Name | Country |private or government client | Expected # users | > Install or > RDM> Customize > RDM> > --- > RDM> Roel De Meester | BE | Government | 20 | Customize > RDM> matthew | US | > > > > > - -- > Mit freundlichen Grüssen > Wilfried Goedert > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: 2.6 > > iQCVAwUAQLSOR7DOY8Ksl5PhAQHRhgP9E2MH8ErcN2yiFAVH7cMW/v2NV1LC9wD+ > WNfazfMMrBTJCkiK9Tyd5OjM6pQGWesjSJQDVsGT0FIWPv5LkRdamdlsVUhwb/b4 > cJVHUeBwo9EvYEbI4X0kHGIWnGYlUoj5o1QJEAN4o+I6WsN+1vusHY4xRq22L5ys > fNlFzOIhoII= > =LGMr > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: Fwd: Re: [Care2002-developers] how to assign a patient to a doctor
--- Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The "Appointments" item on the left main menu frame leads to the day's list > of appointments only. You cannot add an appointment starting from this > point. However, you can edit a listed appointment by clicking on the > person's name. But you can list the appointments assigned to a particular > doctor by entering the doctor's name or keywords and hitting the "Go" > button. Tis is not completely correct. I've noticed that when a selected day has NO appointements, it is indeed impossible to add a new appointement. On the contrary, when there is at least 1 appointement, you have the option to ADD a new appointment. Clicking this link will bring you to the patient search screen, and once you have found your patient you still have to click on that patients appointments link to give him an appointement. This is curious behaviour * You have to click on ADD New Appointment twice! * The first time when you are in the The "Appointments" item on the left main, you have already choosen a date, but the second time when you click on the patient's appointments. This date is forgotten I hope i didn't confuse you too much. = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] CVS Usage
I liked your CVS tutorial very much. I constantly use eclipse 3.0 for Java development. I even developed a few plugins for it [eclipse-ccase, eclipse-latex, editor ...]. I have never done php development with it, but i did find http://www.xored.com/download.php Trustudio.. Did you ever use that? Would it be possible to extend your cvs tutorial to a installation/setup guide for doing Care2x development from within eclipse using php-eclipse? greetings Roel De Meester --- Matthias Niess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I just had a look at the repository and saw that all (I could find) > commits were done by Elpidio Latorilla only. So I asked myself how the > developement is done? Is everyone sending his/her code to Elpidio by email? > > If anyone has problems or questions using the CVS I'm offering my help. > Just mail me any questions. I am also preparing a complete CVS tutorial > (with emphasis on Eclipse usage) for the care2x project. You can preview > the work-in-progress at http://www.yumdap.net/articles/eclipse_cvs.php. > The final version will be published elsewhere. Of course I will announce > it here. > > regards > Matthias Niess > > -- > PGP-encrypted mails preferred. Find my key on any public keyserver > RSA 2048 Key Id: 0xD5B8D81F > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] CVS Usage
Hello, i've tried to do > On "HEAD" -> "Care2002" , right click on "Care2002" and select > "Configure Branches and Versions". If i than select a file i get a whole list of branches for that file [fossfa-0-1, care2x_1, G2_smarty,...] But what i would like is that in the CVS repository view, under the "HEAD" there is a "BRANCHES"-node. Expanding that should give me G2_SMarty,G2POSTGRE, ... Currently i don't understand how i could switch between different branches. ps. For my own SF projects i do see the branches i've created, and i am able to work simutlaneously on HEAD and another branch. Any help much appreciated --- Matthias Niess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2004 08:08:59 -0700, Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Sunday 30 May 2004 13:02, Matthias Niess wrote: > >> That leads me to another question. I cannot see any branches. I only see > >> version tags but no 'real' branches?! > > > there are real branches. > > Please try to check them "Configure Branches and Versions..." function. > > On "HEAD" -> "Care2002" , right click on "Care2002" and select > > "Configure Branches and Versions". > > Ahh okay.. thank you. I forgot to do that. > > Matthias > > -- > PGP-encrypted mails preferred. Find my key on any public keyserver > RSA 2048 Key Id: 0xD5B8D81F > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] CVS Usage
Problem solved.. In the "Configure branches .." dialog , there is a list of files to be examined when refreshing tags. Default it contained Care2002/.project , but this file does not exist in care2002, so i added the index.html et voila.. All branches showed up in the CVS repository location view sorry if i confused some of you.. greetz --- Roel De Meester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > i've tried to do > > On "HEAD" -> "Care2002" , right click on "Care2002" and select > > "Configure Branches and Versions". > If i than select a file i get a whole list of branches for that file [fossfa-0-1, > care2x_1, > G2_smarty,...] > > But what i would like is that in the CVS repository view, under the "HEAD" there is a > "BRANCHES"-node. Expanding that should give me G2_SMarty,G2POSTGRE, ... > > Currently i don't understand how i could switch between different branches. > > ps. For my own SF projects i do see the branches i've created, and i am able to work > simutlaneously on HEAD and another branch. > > > Any help much appreciated > > > --- Matthias Niess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 31 May 2004 08:08:59 -0700, Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 30 May 2004 13:02, Matthias Niess wrote: > > >> That leads me to another question. I cannot see any branches. I only see > > >> version tags but no 'real' branches?! > > > > > there are real branches. > > > Please try to check them "Configure Branches and Versions..." function. > > > On "HEAD" -> "Care2002" , right click on "Care2002" and select > > > "Configure Branches and Versions". > > > > Ahh okay.. thank you. I forgot to do that. > > > > Matthias > > > > -- > > PGP-encrypted mails preferred. Find my key on any public keyserver > > RSA 2048 Key Id: 0xD5B8D81F > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click > > ___ > > Care2002-developers mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > = > God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
[Care2002-developers] Comparing Care2x to other EPR/HIS/GP
Has anyone seen or done a comparison of Care2x against other open source HIS ? like openemr.net, ... Does anyone has a list of other ACTIVE open source HIS that are interesting to look at? greetz roel = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. >From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: [Care2002-developers] Comparing Care2x to other EPR/HIS/GP - 1
I think eclipse is the first class example of how current and future application should function. It consists of of a few low level modules/plugins/libraries and a very clear way of how to write plugins for it. Each plugin publishes the functionality it can/wants to share with other in an plugin.XML, a visa versa. Each plugin attaching itself to the functionalties of other plugins should state in it's plugin.xml what functionality he wants to benefit from(or listen to), and a pointer to it's own source-code that reacts on these functions. I have even started a few months back to create a HIS based on eclipse which should consist of a lot of plugins. [patient-plugin, labo-plugin, billing-plugin, ...] But doing it on my own would take me ages, And secondly it was a Client-Server program. I prefer to work on a web-based HIS. All this to say that building a flexible application should indeed focus on providing a framework allowing different plugins to interact together. And as to the statement of Elpidio about to much API to study. I personally don't think that working with a lot of plugins puts so much burden on the developers. Developers using plugins are not interested in the internals of a single or multiple plugins. They just have to take a look at each plugin's public API/listeners, and only attach to the things they are interested in. And indeed if they would start listening to 13 other modules it would be much more work than working on 3 modules. Put that would definitely also be the case in the current setup. You can expect to make a more evolved module with the same amount of knowledge/study as for a simple non-interacting module. >From what i have seen the plugins that have currently been developed [are usefull >though] do not seem to interact with the HIS-data. my 2 cents Roel > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Care2002-developers] Comparing Care2x to other > EPR/HIS/GP - 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:20:10 +1000 > From: Horst Herb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:00, Elpidio Latorilla wrote: > > It seems to me that OSCAR is more directed towards doctors and the > > processing of medical findings, Care2x is more directed towards hospital > > organisation and management of departments, requests and staff. > > > > Ideally, one had the best of both system united in one system ! > > UNIX is so more powerful *and* robust because it is built on a large number > of small programs that each do one job very well, but can interact nicely > with all others - instead of depending on unwieldy and unflexible monoliths. > > I don't envision one application that is everything to everybody. I envision > a modular environment where OSCAR's appointment module can interact freely > and efficiently with Care2x' lab module and gnumed's prescribing module and > so forth. > > We really should each focus on designing a small module with a well defined > scope, implement it well, and publish a platform/language independent RPC API > for it. If we could work out a common *framework* in which such independent > modules can exist and cooperate efficiently (and pain free for the > developers), we would well deserve our place in the history of health > informatics. > > Horst = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Project care2x CD
May i be so bold to ask "What has free telephone to do with a HIS like Care2x?" --- Wilfried Goedert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: MD5 > > Nandalal Gunaratne, > > > NG> Is this going to be a Live CD like Knoppix? > > Shure it will be a Knoppix. Version 3 or 4 of the original. But i > follow Klaus Knoppers decition like all his versions to support mainly > German and English. I think again if there is an interest to support > other languages from scratch this is done best by natural speakers > with own language versions of the care2x Knoppix CD. > > I am testing at the moment intensiv with online telephony. > So the CD will support free international phonecalls. > I got from > the skype team an unofficial linux version. > Anyways skype is free but closed source. > So i think its not implemented but it supports it. > > Windows users can take a test and phone me for free. > > http://www.skype.com > > My nick is: arztde > > you phone then directly for free with me. I run skype from a my > knoppix cd at home. old 500 mhz celeron notebook with 200 mb ram > > - -- > Mit freundlichen Grüssen > Wilfried Goedert > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: 2.6 > > iQCVAwUAQNGadrDOY8Ksl5PhAQEIigP+MhVAC9it9iEtQqq0ZcSBX6iNgJNcfYaR > lXQ6Z0gDcWPu8uPKMuF5fQIA05x6EzXuM5ghS9fco/D0DmoePd2NSwYUAYzOg/7O > tczkXQ+zdqFTnKMPfryrLsVDTR8pikTuGr6DER5Gd7UeACpzXOJxx2sL/nvy9oOR > f/L0tzdy/hg= > =C1VZ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by The 2004 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Learn from the experts at JavaOne(SM), Sun's Worldwide Java Developer > Conference, June 28 - July 1 at the Moscone Center in San Francisco, CA > REGISTER AND SAVE! http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf Priority Code NWMGYKND > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by The 2004 JavaOne(SM) Conference Learn from the experts at JavaOne(SM), Sun's Worldwide Java Developer Conference, June 28 - July 1 at the Moscone Center in San Francisco, CA REGISTER AND SAVE! http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf Priority Code NWMGYKND ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] what is elpidio doing nowadays?
What is the status about using MS SQLServer? Is it running without problems? Any people doing this? greetz = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] what is elpidio doing nowadays?
Who else is in fact developing on Care2x? What are the others doing? roel = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] PDA Version Design Study - a nice summer surprise!
If you are thinking about a PDA version it might be a good idea to install the Opera Browser on your developer system. It has the very usefull feature to show what a page would look like on a PDA. [Shft+F11]. See http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/smallscreen/ for more info Enjoy --- Elpidio Latorilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > a nice summer surprise from Mr. Mollin of HCCgmbh company. > > Here are several design studies for the PDA version of Care2x > (or myCare2x, the custom version of Care2x for Germany). > > For OOo format: > http://www.care2x.org/promo/pda_screenshots.doc > > For PDF format: > http://www.care2x.org/promo/pda_screenshots.pdf > > For online browsing: > http://ciclone.mfh.it/care2002/images/view.php?gid=15 > > Enjoy the summer weather :-) > Elpidio > > ps: myCare2x is not a project's fork but a customized version for the german > system. > > > --- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] PDA Version Design Study - a nice summer surprise!
Of course your where completely correct, but i was indeed thinking of a deployement in a hospital where any Care2x loving company could deliver the Care2x server and as a surplus could try to sell some PDA's to get access to the Care2x services. In that setup, it would not be to hard to sell Opera pre-installed PDA's. I may be a bit biased but I've tried some web-browsers on PDA and i have to say that opera is FAST! greetz roel --- daxel3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:25:54 +0100 (BST), Roel De Meester > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you are thinking about a PDA version it might be a good idea to > > install the Opera Browser on > > your developer system. > > It has the very usefull feature to show what a page would look like on a > > PDA. [Shft+F11]. > > See http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/smallscreen/ for more info > ahh.. another Opera lover ;) I'm always happy to see people using it. But > I have to say you were not quite right. With Opera you can only see what > pages will look like with OPERA's smallscreen-rendering. So only when the > PDA uses Opera it will look like it on the PDA. > To make your point right again I should mention Opera's becoming the #1 > browser on mobile devices BECAUSE of it's great smallscreen-rendering. So > it makes sense to check the pages in Opera. > > With Opera and good CSS there wouldn't even have to be a seperate version > of Care2X to be used on PDAs.. > > cheers > Matthias > > -- > PGP-encrypted mail preferred. Find my key on any public keyserver > RSA 2048 Key Id: 0xD5B8D81F > > > --- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] PDA Version Design Study - a nice summer surprise!
Other reasons why i'm trying to get my customer convinced of Opera * the good Zooming support [And still get a nice layout on any resolution] * Accessiblity Layout * Speed * Kiosk mode If you do not understand any of these terms i'd suggest to have a look @ www.opera.com Greetz --- Matthias Niess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:11:10 +0100 (BST), Roel De Meester > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Of course your where completely correct, but i was indeed thinking of a > > deployement in a hospital > > where any Care2x loving company could deliver the Care2x server and as a > > surplus could try to sell > > some PDA's to get access to the Care2x services. In that setup, it would > > not be to hard to sell > > Opera pre-installed PDA's. > > I may be a bit biased but I've tried some web-browsers on PDA and i have > > to say that opera is > > FAST! > I can't say I'm not biased but there're reasons on uses this browser. On > PDA and Desktop.. so it's not really being biased I think. > The idea to sell PDAs is pretty cool, though.. > > Matthias > > -- > PGP-encrypted mail preferred. Find my key on any public keyserver > RSA 2048 Key Id: 0xD5B8D81F > > > --- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] PDA Version Design Study - a nice summer surprise!
See http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/products/ for supported PDA's and http://www.expansys.be/p_opera.asp for smartphone prices gl roel --- Nandalal Gunaratne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the cost of such a PDA - about would do. > > Nandalal > > --- Matthias Niess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:11:10 +0100 (BST), Roel De > > Meester > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Of course your where completely correct, but i was > > indeed thinking of a > > > deployement in a hospital > > > where any Care2x loving company could deliver the > > Care2x server and as a > > > surplus could try to sell > > > some PDA's to get access to the Care2x services. > > In that setup, it would > > > not be to hard to sell > > > Opera pre-installed PDA's. > > > I may be a bit biased but I've tried some > > web-browsers on PDA and i have > > > to say that opera is > > > FAST! > > I can't say I'm not biased but there're reasons on > > uses this browser. On > > PDA and Desktop.. so it's not really being biased I > > think. > > The idea to sell PDAs is pretty cool, though.. > > > > Matthias > > > > -- > > PGP-encrypted mail preferred. Find my key on any > > public keyserver > > RSA 2048 Key Id: 0xD5B8D81F > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & > > Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas > > July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no > > vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit > > www.blackhat.com > > ___ > > Care2002-developers mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > --- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: AW: [Care2002-developers] PDA Version Design Study - a nice summer surprise!
from OPERA FAQ. Is Opera available on Palm/Windows CE/ Pocket PC devices? Not yet. We are servicing clients first but we are considering development for this platform. We will of course announce that availability once it becomes possible. --- Joachim Mollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for your info. The facts sounds nice. Is there a opera version for > the HP iPAQ with PPC 2003 available? > > > healthcare Consulting gmbh > An der Weinleite 5a > 85560 Ebersberg > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: +49 8092 709910 / +49 171 8017700 > Fax: +49 8092 709920 > www.healthcareconsulting.de > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Roel > De Meester > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2004 09:33 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] PDA Version Design Study - a nice summer > surprise! > > See http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/products/ for supported PDA's > and http://www.expansys.be/p_opera.asp for smartphone prices > > gl > > roel > > > --- Nandalal Gunaratne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the cost of such a PDA - about would do. > > > > Nandalal > > > > --- Matthias Niess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:11:10 +0100 (BST), Roel De > > > Meester > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Of course your where completely correct, but i was > > > indeed thinking of a > > > > deployement in a hospital > > > > where any Care2x loving company could deliver the > > > Care2x server and as a > > > > surplus could try to sell > > > > some PDA's to get access to the Care2x services. > > > In that setup, it would > > > > not be to hard to sell > > > > Opera pre-installed PDA's. > > > > I may be a bit biased but I've tried some > > > web-browsers on PDA and i have > > > > to say that opera is > > > > FAST! > > > I can't say I'm not biased but there're reasons on > > > uses this browser. On > > > PDA and Desktop.. so it's not really being biased I > > > think. > > > The idea to sell PDAs is pretty cool, though.. > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > -- > > > PGP-encrypted mail preferred. Find my key on any > > > public keyserver > > > RSA 2048 Key Id: 0xD5B8D81F > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & > > > Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas > > > July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no > > > vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit > > > www.blackhat.com > > > ___ > > > Care2002-developers mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > ___ > > Care2002-developers mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > > = > God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. > > > --- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > > > ---
Re: [Care2002-developers] Need to hire some programmers for our care2x development
I'd be very much interested to help you out. Due to other involvments i'm only available for 2 days a week to do @ home development. I'll try to send you my cv this week. greetz roel de meester --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are moving foreward with our work to use care2x in the hospice and > palliative care area need to hire some reasonibly priced programmers to > assist in work. If anyone is interested please let me know. > > Elipido I would also like to possibly farm out some consulting work to you. > Email me personally. > Matt > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > sts.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > = God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
[Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on HIV/AIDS patient. Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ *http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART Advantages: It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open source software. It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software to meet your needs. Disadvantages: This is a large software package with many functions that may not be necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training and use. Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause confusion when they are not used. This software will require modification to support ART. The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important things are 1. Only Out Patients. 2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations [ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. * Greetings Roel De Meester begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Freelance Software Ontwikkelaar tel;home:+32 (0)3 288 62 73 tel;cell:+32 (0) 498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
I follow you , for doing research you should always collect as much data as possible and never throw away 'trivial' data in advance. But in case of HIV Therapy followup, the 10 institutes/centres that i know (and for which i would like to develop an ARV module) do not hospitalize the HIV infected people. The aim of the institutes is to follow up the patients, give them appropriate therapy and keep them from getting AIDS. Besides that they do clinical studies, collect data, do research etc... Mind.. I'm not a doctor. I'm a humble software developer who happens to know some people in these institutes and i helped them to setup a simple database from which they can query some data. I'd like to help them out by merging there current way of working into Care2x to take benefits from both. matthew wrote: >Roel > >Remember this if you get too focused you will loose capibilities you >will need a future period of time. Especially when you start tracking >true stastices related to patient care. > >For instance it may seem superfical to track patient beds, equipment, >but when you have to start looking for the cause of a VRE or MRSA out >break in your aids patients you will ned this data because this >equipment can become the means of spreading the desease from patient to >patient. > >You should collect the data and trim how you present the data to the end >user, but you should always collect the data inorder to leave your >research options open. > >Matt >Roel De Meester wrote: > > > >>I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR >>directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on >>HIV/AIDS patient. >>Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ >>*http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] >>Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART >> >>Advantages: >>It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open >>source software. >>It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large >>enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software >>to meet your needs. >> >>Disadvantages: >>This is a large software package with many functions that may not be >>necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training >>and use. >>Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not >>designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause >>confusion when they are not used. >>This software will require modification to support ART. >> >> >>The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all >>information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important >>things are >>1. Only Out Patients. >>2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, >>c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians >> >>Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? >>What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the >>timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png >>Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? >> >>Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? >> >> >>For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions >>involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations >>[ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. >> >>* >>Greetings >>Roel De Meester >> >> >> >> > > > begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba;Software Development adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;Antwerpen;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+32(0)498 41 66 99 tel;cell:+32(0)498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Mauri Niemi wrote: Hello, We have also a big HIV/AIDS program and they need a program for it. We are now working on other features but with the co-operation of others we would like to use Care2x also for that program. When we are developing Care2x we are making a single computer system for small clinics and I do not see it a problem. At the same time we are doing it to fit for bigger hospitals. Have you already developed something for the AIDS program in Care2x? What are the most important features you are lacking in care2x for doing the HIV/AIDS program with it? On administrative lever it is possible to hide so much unnecessary information that we hope to use the same for both. That is true. So that rules out the first Disadvantage quoted below. I was also not planning to remove those modules/functionalitities from care2x, i was planning to disable them upon installation. Mauri Niemi On 1 Sep 2004 at 10:58, Roel De Meester wrote: I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on HIV/AIDS patient. Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ *http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART Advantages: It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open source software. It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software to meet your needs. Disadvantages: This is a large software package with many functions that may not be necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training and use. Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause confusion when they are not used. This software will require modification to support ART. The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important things are 1. Only Out Patients. 2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations [ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. * Greetings Roel De Meester MD, Information Officer ELCT Health Department --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba;Software Development adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;Antwerpen;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+32(0)498 41 66 99 tel;cell:+32(0)498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
RE: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Hi Kajal, Sounds good, we will need all the help I will try to make a first design of the functionalities of the module, I hope that Mark can help to review it to result in a good design document. Implementation can start when the design fase is finished. (maybe end of september?) greetz On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 01:11:28 -0700 (PDT), "Kajal Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi Mark, > > I would like to join you in the development of this ARV module. If > you can send me the specifications then i can work it out. > > Regards, > Kajal Patel > Mumbai, India > > Mark Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > There is a huge need for ARV HIS in South Africa and probably in many > other > places in the world. Our area is about to pilot a commercial program > (web-based, Oracle, Java). > > Care2x has all the building blocks required for ARV - what is required is > a > specific front end GUI. There would also need to be some specific tables > added (WHO classification, etc). > > IMHO Care2x is too flexible (if that can be possible) for the average > user, > especially for something like ARV therapy. > > > Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? > > I could help with some design and UI issues, but don't have time or skill > to > help with coding. > > Mark Painter > East London, South Africa > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. -- Somethingswrongwithmyspacebar Roel De Meester [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Redevelopment of Care2x Web Site
vote +1. am also a thru mambo believer. Easy to set up, easy to maintain, scalable, skinnable.. Dear webmaster, please have a look into this. It took me about 4 hours to convert a static website of the size of care2x into a dynamic website. All information gad to be entered as newsitems, navigation was almost similar to the original site. A piece of cake ! GL. Roel Steven Pignataro wrote: Care2x has a great web site and design concept behind it. But as browsing through the site it became noticable difficult to navigate or even let alone search for certain things within in the site that i was wanting to find. Im proposing that Care2x.com be redesigned and id be more then happy to work with anybody else on this that is willing to undertake this. Here is my proposal for Care2x By redesigning the site to be Database driven utilizing Mambo ( Mambo Content Management System - http://www.mamboserver.com ) This system will alow the ability to have easier navigation, a backend control panel to be able to quickly and efficently alter the content, online FAQ center, Content syndication (RSS), SEF (Search Engine Frienldy URLs), multi-lingual, User managment. Now with this package you can add on many differant functions to the site. Things that would improve the site on being a local site would be the following: Gallery intergrated into Care2x.com Events Calander to show differant events Download Manager Staff/Team management package Intergrated forums and much more depending on the various functions of the site. Each are quickly intergrated and updatable to the package itself. Comments and suggestions and/or approval Steven Pignataro ___ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 13. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba;Software Development adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;Antwerpen;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+32(0)498 41 66 99 tel;cell:+32(0)498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] Redevelopment of Care2x Web Site
hello elpidio, Mambo is a great product simple because it is so easy to convert a current static website into a dynamic website. It is in fact possible to have the same look and feel and cosmetic identity using mambo. Currently most mambo sites that i know of did not put the time and effort into changing the default mambo Look and Feel. That makes people think that all mambo sites look similar. But it is possible to create a identical identity like Care2x is providing now. [Light blue theme, Logo on top left, Sea logo below, Menu on the left, Main info in the middle, etc.. ] Bringing the DATA from the current care2x site to a mambo site is a matter of hours. Bring the visual, cosmetic care2x identity over to the mambo site is a matter of weeks [and good graphical skills ;) ] You don't have to loose the Care2x identity when switching to mambo, you do gain on ease of maintaince [updating latest news, releasing latest versions, image gallery,..]. and you get the SEARCH functionality for free. So my point is .. * switching to mambo has nothing to do with a cosmetic change, but more with easy of maintaince for webmaster * switching to mambo does not mean loosing identity, * Care2x is NOT a cms project but it has a lot of CONTENT to show to it's visitors, that may be a good reason to switch to a simple to use dynamic Content system like mambo My 2(euro)cents. Greetings Roel Elpidio Latorilla wrote: Hello Steven, your plan is highly admirable. However, before you start investing time and effort in the plan please be aware that there is no guarantee that your suggestion will be implemented as fast as you might want it to be. To be honest, there is no immediate need for cosmetic changes on the website. Also, the care2x project is not a CMS project nor we plan to do a CMS app, nor do we plan to market any other CMS concept. And the website structure change has low priority at this time. I know you like Mambo more that anything else but please look at these high caliber open source projects: http://www.php.net http://www.apache.org http://www.eclipse.org http://www.mysql.org http://www.postgresql.org http://www.jboss.org Perhaps you can try convincing them first to switch to Mambo then you inform us about the results. Each one of the above projects is trying to create its own identity. Of course, no design in this world will satisfy everybody. Let us look at it this way: if one wants to sell his own brand of hamburgers, should he use the McDonalds design? If he uses it, then his hamburger will be McDonalds hamburgers. Regards, Elpidio On Saturday 11 September 2004 06:27, Steven Pignataro wrote: I will begin to put together a test site and hopefully have it up and running in a few weeks for people to play around with and begin to work on if any are willing to undertake this project. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 13. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba;Software Development adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;Antwerpen;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+32(0)498 41 66 99 tel;cell:+32(0)498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] Redevelopment of Care2x Web Site
I rest my case :) Wilfried Goedert wrote: Roel De Meester, RDM> * switching to mambo has nothing to do with a cosmetic change, but more RDM> with easy of maintaince for webmaster The webmaster is Elpidio and it seems the system now is working fine for him. With a content management system he will loose controll if there is now workflow integration inside the system. I don't know the improvements in Mambo for the last 3 month. Before i tried a intensive play with it for 6 months. Mambo seems not to fit Elpidios needs to have a centralized controll over the content. begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Freelance Software Ontwikkelaar tel;home:+32 (0)3 288 62 73 tel;cell:+32 (0) 498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x user profiles
For those interested. More specific we were thinking about http://pear.php.net/package/LiveUser Somebody already has experience with this library? R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Winfred, I'll definitely call your programming skills in when the time has come... First we'll have to sort out some background, but Roel has already found a bunch of interesting authentication/authorisation backends. D. P.S. How's things on the HL7 front in The Hague? On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:57:19 +0200, W. Peereboom wrote Duco Dokter I think it's a great way of distributing some modules to a specialism in our hospital. We are not planning to introduce all the functions of care2x at once, but we can start with some features. If you need a hand on the php programming, let me know Winfred Peereboom Systemdeveloper Hagaziekenhuis.nl Citeren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This weekend a small Care2x meeting took place in Antwerp (Roel de Meester and three developers of our company) discussing some possibilities for an add-on module. One of the things we discussed was the possibility of using user profiles instead of the current situation where a user has to log in for separate modules. A user profile contains all permissions on modules for a user, so he/she wouldn't even see modules in the nav bar that he/she has no permissions for. These profiles are used in many systems (see for example egroupware), so implementation in Care2x shouldn't be too much work: the idea has been implemented many times in PHP, so we could adapt some existing sources. Could we discuss this matter and especially, if we decide to develop it for Care2x, would it be adapted into the main branch? I personally think this would greatly enhance the user's ease of using Care2x, and the maintenance of authorisation/authentication. Regards, Duco Dokter ++ D.A.Dokter ** Wyldebeast & Wunderliebe http://www.wyldebeast-wunderliebe.com/ Powered by unsavoury.net --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 13. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers Development IT --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 13. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers ++ D.A.Dokter ** Wyldebeast & Wunderliebe http://www.wyldebeast-wunderliebe.com/ Powered by unsavoury.net --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 13. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Freelance Software Developer tel;home:+32 (0)3 288 62 73 tel;cell:+32 (0) 498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x management: dealing with Elpidio 2
It is the first time i see these advocation 'Rules' but i like them. Personally i find it rather sad that when someone makes a proposal to improve some part of the project (the care2x site is also part of the care2x project) that the idea is been shot down before it even left the ground. It may be true that the same proposal has been done months ago and shot down then also but not all people subscribing to a mailinglist make the effort to read through the whole history to see which subjects have already been discussed. It may be true that some people contribute more than spilling words, and that some people talk more and contribute even less. But there are also people who want to start a discussion by launching a fresh idea, hoping that others will contribute to that idea which hopefully ends into a new fine contribution. I admit, up till now i still belong to the second class: i have talked talked and talked but never contributed to the care2x. But by reading the replies to my humble words, ideas are formed in my head, on paper and in little design sketches,, and i hope to promote to that third class some day. I really like Care2x in it's current state but it is not perfect. But after following this mailinglist for a few months a became too scared to sum up those flaws, scared for being kicked out of the group. Haping coding. Roel J. Antas wrote: I prefer to strongly refuse the idea that Elpidio's recent postings regarding my participation in this mail list and, in general, in the project are some kind of "crack in the varnish" of an otherwise all looking good, all polite Elpidio's web presence. So, I guess that something must be said and the following freely adapted from Lars Wirzenius (Linux Core Project's) on how to advocate for Linux: a) Care2x is my Healthcare Information System Creation Environment (HIS-CE) of choice. I want to have many people use it, if only because then it has a higher chance of surviving. Many people want the same thing, and some of them are actively telling about Care2x to other people, often in public newsgroups. This is advocacy, and it's one good way to spread the word on Care2x. And, at this time I would like to say to Elpidio: b) *Stay calm*. There's no reason to get excited. If someone says something about Care2x that you don't like, so what? It's just computers, it's not important. c) *Don't take it personally*. Even if Care2x is your dream system, there's no reason to be offended if someone points out problems with Care2x (even if you wrote that part of Care2x). It's not a statement about you personally. If they flame Care2x or its users, they're idiots and you should ignore them. They're probably just trying to get some attention. d) *Ignore flame baits*. Like I said, some people just want attention. They enjoy starting long flame wars by crossposting something insulting to several people. Don't respond to these posts. It isn't productive. e) *Stick to facts*. If someone says something wrong about Care2x, reply with the correct facts. Make sure they're facts. Check your facts. If you don't know how to do that, then perhaps you shouldn't take part in the discussion, except perhaps by making questions. Even better, give references so that other people can also check the facts. f) *Care2x is not flawless*. Care2x has bugs, including design problems. If someone points out something that is wrong with Care2x, acknowledge it and do something constructive, like forward it to the proper maintainer or fix it yourself. Find a workaround. Write a summary of the problem and make it publically available. Don't just whine. g) *Don't flame people because they use some other systems or tools*, or because they point you some useful aspects of those other tools or systems. Ever. h) *We aren't taking over the world*. There's no reason to get offended if someone claims many more people use other systems or tools than Care2x own's. It's true. It doesn't matter. No-one knows how many Care2x users there are. That doesn't matter, either. Market share isn't the goal. Solving problems is the goal. Having fun is the goal. Best Regards, J. Antas --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba;Software Development adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;Antwerpen;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+32(0)498 41 66 99 tel;cell:+32(0)498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
