Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
Hello Lopo, that is true. For us we have a direct requirement - there is a ERP needed. So I have also looked for free and open source ERP system and found some ( But your list is really nice). For the first step I planned to go the quite easiest way: Use an ERP system with the same technical conception: PHP and Mysql. Aim: to scratch up interfaces. Next would be integration of other ERP system and to find standardized interfaces. You mentioned that the ERP system should not even integrated to care2x. Yes and no. typically answer from accounting people I would say:-). The usability, the user acceptance is really important. So it should have a feeling of integration. These psychological aspects are important by the acceptance of the software and of the user - who have the feeling just to use a web application and not a really stupid complex ERP system like SAP. Risks of staff making mistakes in reason of having fear of -seeming- complex software is higher than using a ERP system what not fulfil each requirement but can be added later. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Humaneasy Consulting Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 05:49 An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi all, My modest opinion on this is that Care2x should have a plugin that would allow external access to data to the billing applications, some sort of SOAP or even based on XHP server that is already there. Making modules for external ERP packages to talk to Care2x would be a better idea and would require a small branch to coordinate that. Many entities have their own billing application and fiscal and taxation policies are too diferent from country to country that you don't have a real FOSS application that can do it all without a lot of tweakning. There are already several F/OSS ERP/CRM packages ( http://www.principiolegal.com/software/erpcrm.php http://www.principiolegal.com/software/erpcrm.php) and each entity should be able to choose it freely. Also, billling staff in most hospitals are not even related with operating staff so they don't even need to deal with this. They just need to have acess to costumers, exams, medicines and other medical events and prices don't need or even should be inside Care2x (although it could have eventually access with plugins). Tightly integrating an ERP with Care2x will bloat it more and will force many to hardcode it out. In Portugal all national state hospitals and public institutions must use a special kind of fiscal policy that is diferent from private sector and even diferent from local autorities; so two hospitals (one private and one public) will have huge problems with a tightly integrated ERP. SimpleInvoice is neat but completely useless in our fiscal environment here. Just my opinion. Best, Lopo - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
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If an entity has a considerable number of hospitals, possibly the government, possibly an entity that owns considerable other "business", then they could be forced to use whatever ERP they use. Not having ERP available could very well mean double work and significant error. Without ERP Care2x is an autonomous systemthat demands extensive manual work by the hospital in order to bill, get paid and accountor a full amount of customized workin order to have even billing, let alone ERP. HavingERP available offersa "complete" solution. Sosome entities will needERP and some would seem not to want or need. Also, as with many other projects, their resources and knowledge are focused on the main work of the project, as should be. Therefore I would suggest "interfacing" will be much better than "integrating". In this way, the project is not forced to commit to a particular ERP,offers the least impactandis not saddled with somehow keeping up with integrating upgrades...good luck with that! Interfacing is a much bigger challenge than integrating, however, when done right it offers the greatest ongoing flexibility and the least interference to the project. Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert MeggleSent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:55 AMTo: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hello Lopo, that is true. For us we have a direct requirement there is a ERP needed. So I have also looked for free and open source ERP system and found some ( But your list is really nice). For the first step I planned to go the quite easiest way: Use an ERP system with the same technical conception: PHP and Mysql. Aim: to scratch up interfaces. Next would be integration of other ERP system and to find standardized interfaces. You mentioned that the ERP system should not even integrated to care2x. Yes and no typically answer from accounting people I would sayJ. The usability, the user acceptance is really important. So it should have a feeling of integration. These psychological aspects are important by the acceptance of the software and of the user who have the feeling just to use a web application and not a really stupid complex ERP system like SAP. Risks of staff making mistakes in reason of having fear of seeming- complex software is higher than using a ERP system what not fulfil each requirement but can be add ed later. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert MeggleHohnerstrasse 689079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Humaneasy ConsultingGesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 05:49An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hiall,MymodestopiniononthisisthatCare2xshouldhaveapluginthatwouldallowexternalaccesstodatatothebillingapplications, some sort of SOAP or even based on XHP server that is already there. Making modules for external ERP packages to talk to Care2x would be a better idea and would require a small branch to coordinate that.Many entities have their own billing application and fiscal andtaxationpoliciesaretoodiferentfrom countrytocountrythatyoudon'thavearealFOSSapplicationthatcandoitallwithoutalotoftweakning. There are already several F/OSS ERP/CRM packages ( http://www.principiolegal.com/software/erpcrm.php) and each entity should be able to choose it freely.Also, billling staff in most hospitals are not even related with operating staff so they don't even need to dealwiththis.Theyjustneedtohaveacesstocostumers,exams,medicinesandothermedicaleventsand pricesdon'tneedor even should beinsideCare2x (although it could have eventually access with plugins). Tightly integrating an ERP with Care2x will bloat it more and will force many to hardcode it out. In Portugal all national state hospitals and public institutions must use a special kind of fiscal policy that is diferent from private sector and even diferent from local autorities; so two hospitals (one private and one public) will have huge problems with atightly integrated ERP. SimpleInvoice is neat but completely useless in our fiscal environment here.Just my opinion.Best,Lopo No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 10:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 10:02 AM - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
Hi all, My modest opinion on this is that Care2x should have a plugin that would allow external access to data to the billing applications, some sort of SOAP or even based on XHP server that is already there. Making modules for external ERP packages to talk to Care2x would be a better idea and would require a small branch to coordinate that. Many entities have their own billing application and fiscal and taxation policies are too diferent from country to country that you don't have a real FOSS application that can do it all without a lot of tweakning. There are already several F/OSS ERP/CRM packages ( http://www.principiolegal.com/software/erpcrm.php) and each entity should be able to choose it freely. Also, billling staff in most hospitals are not even related with operating staff so they don't even need to deal with this. They just need to have acess to costumers, exams, medicines and other medical events and prices don't need or even should be inside Care2x (although it could have eventually access with plugins). Tightly integrating an ERP with Care2x will bloat it more and will force many to hardcode it out. In Portugal all national state hospitals and public institutions must use a special kind of fiscal policy that is diferent from private sector and even diferent from local autorities; so two hospitals (one private and one public) will have huge problems with a tightly integrated ERP. SimpleInvoice is neat but completely useless in our fiscal environment here. Just my opinion. Best, Lopo - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
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Hi, We also integrated an invoice system. It is not kissed by css or AJAX, it is more focused on functional design. But the handling could be difficult. When there is a invoice system in my eyes, there should be a minimum of paper and double work. All information what should be shown in a invoice are still in the system and there is no reason that the billing officer has do to double work by selecting the correct patient or selecting the items what should be paid. We decided to integrate it on one more abstraction layer: Who can say that the patient can afford it, which makes the guarantee that there is no patient running away without paying. So there should be also a tiny accounting system who should point the payment to self pay, insured and some more accounts. That is for this time running well, accounting is quite more abstract. Also we thought to integrate another third party product what covers all these accounting and stock issues. We focused now webERP as a possible solution for that. We should also know that the requirements of accounting almost different. And when there is a software integration on a European hospital a typically competitor to care2x is Siemens or SAP. There is almost a quite small frontier between the software for hospitals work and for stock and accounting. I think first of all we need a list of requirements what we should agree that this software should fulfil. When we are starting at the most difficult part, accounting, we have all focused to us it is the most interesting part for hospitals. What do you think of redesign of existing care2x and bringing up some interfaces to different accounting systems? Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von jENELLE Gesendet: Montag, 2. Juli 2007 17:57 An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Robert, I think that dropdown on the customers will also become troublesome when you have more than a couple of entries. Bala, would it be possible to create a search field for it instead? Another question Bala, how do we go about adding more than 4 items into a bill? I have thought of integrating another open source project for the billing side but your's looks way much better. I was thinking of integrating PHPPOS into Care2x. I have been using it for sometime now and it looks promising. I still have to find a way to make it pull appropriate data such as customers=patients, etc. It think it would be able to handle billing for pharmaceutical items too since it has a nice inventory system and reporting too. Any suggestions Robert? Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Bala, I've just checked your billing system of your demo. First of all: Congratulations for your really nice looking front end and the courage of using AJAX in such sensible part of the system :-) ! That's really amazing...I have just some questions to your workflow: In the drop down list of Customer Name... e.g. we have 40.000 registered patients. Does it is not really heavy to use in that way? (We choose a quite more simple way: When there is a patient got any service of the hospital (prescription, registration fee, xray...), he will be shown in a list. That is a kind of quotation list for all these patients got any service, even when there are now discharged - out of that kind of quotation you could make an invoice. When we merge the workflow and the nice front end maybe that could be a really nice system at the end... what do you think? Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:care2002- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bala Subramaniam Gesendet: Montag, 2. Juli 2007 17:14 An: Care2002 developers Betreff: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Carers, If i may, i would like to take this opportunity to share with you all certain details pertaining to Care2x billing module. I have been able to integrate care2x with SimpleInvoice (another open source project at http://www.simpleinvoices.org/). I would also like to place my appreciation and special thanks to the simpleinvoices team and more specifically to Mr.Nicolas Ruflin and Justin. Their contact details are given below for your reference and you could feel free to contact them for any other queries related to SimpleInvoice. Mr.Nicolas Ruflin Riehenring 191a 4058 Basel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruflin.com
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
Hi Robert, On 7/3/07, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the handling could be difficult. When there is a invoice system in my eyes, there should be a minimum of paper and double work. All information what should be shown in a invoice are still in the system and there is no reason that the billing officer has do to double work by selecting the correct patient or selecting the items what should be paid. We decided to integrate it on one more abstraction layer: Who can say that the patient can afford it, which makes the guarantee that there is no patient running away without paying. So there should be also a tiny accounting system who should point the payment to self pay, insured and some more accounts. That is true. That is what integration is suppose to achieve, to reduce double work and increase efficiency. Please discuss with Claudio about including your work in following releases instead of just leaving them in a separate branch. I know that your work is more focused on Tanzania hospital environment but if both of you discuss the pros and cons, your solutions might be generic enough for the main releases. Thanks. Elpidio - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
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Hi jENELLE, Exactly, you got the point. Accounting is really complex and if you try to cover all the common requirements of a hospital you will have an ERP system. My idea was to cover all these requirements by a other product and just implement interfaces. These interfaces could be either standardized XML messages or a transfer table.. but the foreign ERP system should be able to read it. This idea comes up by visiting a hospital in east Africa. The main stock is different from the hospital stock and the work of this main stock is more and less an administrative layer. On the same layer you will find also the accounting with all these accounts for salary, purchasers and much more of accounting tasks. Idea was to focus the care2x development to the work on the hospital itself and outsource the accounting to products what is made for. But we also integrated a invoice system, just for the common daily work with outpatients. So there will be always cash flow, even when there is a parallel working ERP system at backend. We started to integrate this part of stock and accounting and recognized that this is really hard work, hard work still done by e.g. webERP what could be easily adapt to care2x because it is based on apache, php and mysql. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von jENELLE Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007 13:19 An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Robert, I've been checking out WebErp and it seems that its quite complicated indeed. But this is what we have in mind, complete the billing module for Care2x (including billing capabilities for pertinent pharmacy, billing dept, laboratory, diagnostics, etc.), then start interfacing WebErp from there? I think WebERP does not need to be 'aware' of everything Care2x does, i think it just needs to be aware of the financial data generated by the relevant departments and modules? Thanks, jENELLE On 7/3/07, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We also integrated an invoice system. It is not kissed by css or AJAX, it is more focused on functional design. But the handling could be difficult. When there is a invoice system in my eyes, there should be a minimum of paper and double work. All information what should be shown in a invoice are still in the system and there is no reason that the billing officer has do to double work by selecting the correct patient or selecting the items what should be paid. We decided to integrate it on one more abstraction layer: Who can say that the patient can afford it, which makes the guarantee that there is no patient running away without paying. So there should be also a tiny accounting system who should point the payment to self pay, insured and some more accounts. That is for this time running well, accounting is quite more abstract. Also we thought to integrate another third party product what covers all these accounting and stock issues. We focused now webERP as a possible solution for that. We should also know that the requirements of accounting almost different. And when there is a software integration on a European hospital a typically competitor to care2x is Siemens or SAP. There is almost a quite small frontier between the software for hospital's work and for stock and accounting. I think first of all we need a list of requirements what we should agree that this software should fulfil. When we are starting at the most difficult part, accounting, we have all focused to us it is the most interesting part for hospitals. What do you think of redesign of existing care2x and bringing up some interfaces to different accounting systems? Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von jENELLE Gesendet: Montag, 2. Juli 2007 17:57 An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Robert, I think that dropdown on the customers will also become troublesome when you have more than a couple of entries. Bala, would it be possible to create a search field for it instead? Another question Bala, how do we go about adding more than 4 items into a bill? I have thought of integrating another open source project for the billing side but your's looks way much better. I was thinking of integrating PHPPOS into Care2x. I have been using it for sometime now and it looks
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
Hi Elpidio, indeed- a nice vision :-) There should be more than one standard interface. HXP is, I guess, a must have to be on the spirit of age. To outsource it to. sri lanka? Why not.. if it is recommended? On the technical focus it is not really important of transferring data on a local network or over the internet, some security aspects included. There are also other aspects what could be a requirement for that. Think of these hospitals funded by organisations. they want to see what happens with the money. :-) So it is not such an unrealistic vision to think global, open and widespread. It could be a kind of sugar to a cup of tee to bring care2x extremely popular. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Elpidio Latorilla Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007 14:26 An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Robert, Thats a good idea. Also, the idea of outsourcing the financial aspect of the hospital operation to another software is practical. I agree that developing the interface is a good solution to the problem. You mentioned xml messages and/or database table. Well, why not try to develop both. That way, the interface is much more flexible. Also, the hxp idea might be useful here, because it is xml like messaging. And since it is a http exchange, the units dont need to be within the same network. They could be thousands of miles apart. Think of physically outsourcing the accounting to... say Sri Lanka? Just a thought. What do the others think? Elpidio On 7/3/07, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elpidio, Thanks fort he flower :-) Out of all responses we got in the past, the work is not really focused on a typically hospital of Tanzania. Nearly the same requirements are in all hospitals of rural areas of population with less income. We can easily merge and take it as optional workflow to the new care3x to cover these requirements of countries having the same workflow. Robert - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
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Hi, As per responses, I guess the best temporary way would be to implement a Billing module which would also compose of reporting functions which would generate the necessary data Accountants would need, and then implement a separate WebERP application on the same host accessible only by accountants. The accountants would then be able to input the data into WebERP? Once the link between WebERP and Care2x has been made, we could probably import the necessary data from the old WebERP into the new and integrated WebERP? Thanks, j On 7/3/07, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elpidio, indeed- a nice vision J There should be more than one standard interface. HXP is, I guess, a must have to be on the spirit of age. To outsource it to… sri lanka? Why not.. if it is recommended? On the technical focus it is not really important of transferring data on a local network or over the internet, some security aspects included. There are also other aspects what could be a requirement for that. Think of these hospitals funded by organisations… they want to see what happens with the money. J So it is not such an unrealistic vision to think global, open and widespread. It could be a kind of sugar to a cup of tee to bring care2x extremely popular. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Elpidio Latorilla *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007 14:26 *An:* care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net *Betreff:* Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Robert, Thats a good idea. Also, the idea of outsourcing the financial aspect of the hospital operation to another software is practical. I agree that developing the interface is a good solution to the problem. You mentioned xml messages and/or database table. Well, why not try to develop both. That way, the interface is much more flexible. Also, the hxp idea might be useful here, because it is xml like messaging. And since it is a http exchange, the units dont need to be within the same network. They could be thousands of miles apart. Think of physically outsourcing the accounting to... say Sri Lanka? Just a thought. What do the others think? Elpidio On 7/3/07, *Robert Meggle* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elpidio, Thanks fort he flower J Out of all responses we got in the past, the work is not really focused on a typically hospital of Tanzania. Nearly the same requirements are in all hospitals of rural areas of population with less income. We can easily merge and take it as optional workflow to the new care3x to cover these requirements of countries having the same workflow. Robert - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
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Hi Robert, I think that dropdown on the customers will also become troublesome when you have more than a couple of entries. Bala, would it be possible to create a search field for it instead? Another question Bala, how do we go about adding more than 4 items into a bill? I have thought of integrating another open source project for the billing side but your's looks way much better. I was thinking of integrating PHPPOS into Care2x. I have been using it for sometime now and it looks promising. I still have to find a way to make it pull appropriate data such as customers=patients, etc. It think it would be able to handle billing for pharmaceutical items too since it has a nice inventory system and reporting too. Any suggestions Robert? Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Bala, I've just checked your billing system of your demo. First of all: Congratulations for your really nice looking front end and the courage of using AJAX in such sensible part of the system :-) ! That's really amazing...I have just some questions to your workflow: In the drop down list of Customer Name... e.g. we have 40.000 registered patients. Does it is not really heavy to use in that way? (We choose a quite more simple way: When there is a patient got any service of the hospital (prescription, registration fee, xray...), he will be shown in a list. That is a kind of quotation list for all these patients got any service, even when there are now discharged - out of that kind of quotation you could make an invoice. When we merge the workflow and the nice front end maybe that could be a really nice system at the end... what do you think? Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:care2002- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bala Subramaniam Gesendet: Montag, 2. Juli 2007 17:14 An: Care2002 developers Betreff: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Carers, If i may, i would like to take this opportunity to share with you all certain details pertaining to Care2x billing module. I have been able to integrate care2x with SimpleInvoice (another open source project at http://www.simpleinvoices.org/). I would also like to place my appreciation and special thanks to the simpleinvoices team and more specifically to Mr.Nicolas Ruflin and Justin. Their contact details are given below for your reference and you could feel free to contact them for any other queries related to SimpleInvoice. Mr.Nicolas Ruflin Riehenring 191a 4058 Basel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruflin.com/ Mr. Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very simple integration and in my opinion is a very good replacement to ecombill. If you are interested, please take a look at the demo at www.softants.com/his (userid:demo, pwd:pass). I am just in the process of putting together a very simple documentation and shall be ready by the week-end to post the same. Once when that is ready, i could post the source code and the documentation to this forum or as per the advise of the moderator. Care2x is a great project and i am committed to contribute much more than the current one. A brief on my agenda... 1. I am exploring to rework the Lab module to something similar to Bika Labs which is ISO 17025 ready. I could not integrate Bika Labs since it is under Plone/Zope. 2. I am exploring options to include a dicom viewer which has an inbuilt ecgviewer. 3. I have a data model for pharmacy which i am planning to incorporate within care2x which includes billing of its own. 4. I have been following discussions on the new generation of care2x and in my opinion considering rubyonrails and spring framework would be worth the while. I would also like to place my special thanks to the community for the initiatives and more specifically to Elpidio Latorilla for intitiating this project in the first place. Regards ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net
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It's not a problem. I have an AJAX for 765.000 terms. The dropdown organizes the information alphabetically first, then shows the first 25 results. It's quite fast when you index the data on MySQL. Best, Daniel jENELLE escribió: Hi Robert, I think that dropdown on the customers will also become troublesome when you have more than a couple of entries. Bala, would it be possible to create a search field for it instead? Another question Bala, how do we go about adding more than 4 items into a bill? I have thought of integrating another open source project for the billing side but your's looks way much better. I was thinking of integrating PHPPOS into Care2x. I have been using it for sometime now and it looks promising. I still have to find a way to make it pull appropriate data such as customers=patients, etc. It think it would be able to handle billing for pharmaceutical items too since it has a nice inventory system and reporting too. Any suggestions Robert? Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, *Robert Meggle* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Bala, I've just checked your billing system of your demo. First of all: Congratulations for your really nice looking front end and the courage of using AJAX in such sensible part of the system :-) ! That's really amazing...I have just some questions to your workflow: In the drop down list of Customer Name... e.g. we have 40.000 registered patients. Does it is not really heavy to use in that way? (We choose a quite more simple way: When there is a patient got any service of the hospital (prescription, registration fee, xray...), he will be shown in a list. That is a kind of quotation list for all these patients got any service, even when there are now discharged - out of that kind of quotation you could make an invoice. When we merge the workflow and the nice front end maybe that could be a really nice system at the end... what do you think? Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:care2002- mailto:care2002- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Bala Subramaniam Gesendet: Montag, 2. Juli 2007 17:14 An: Care2002 developers Betreff: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Carers, If i may, i would like to take this opportunity to share with you all certain details pertaining to Care2x billing module. I have been able to integrate care2x with SimpleInvoice (another open source project at http://www.simpleinvoices.org/). I would also like to place my appreciation and special thanks to the simpleinvoices team and more specifically to Mr.Nicolas Ruflin and Justin. Their contact details are given below for your reference and you could feel free to contact them for any other queries related to SimpleInvoice. Mr.Nicolas Ruflin Riehenring 191a 4058 Basel [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruflin.com/ Mr. Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very simple integration and in my opinion is a very good replacement to ecombill. If you are interested, please take a look at the demo at www.softants.com/his http://www.softants.com/his (userid:demo, pwd:pass). I am just in the process of putting together a very simple documentation and shall be ready by the week-end to post the same. Once when that is ready, i could post the source code and the documentation to this forum or as per the advise of the moderator. Care2x is a great project and i am committed to contribute much more than the current one. A brief on my agenda... 1. I am exploring to rework the Lab module to something similar to Bika Labs which is ISO 17025 ready. I could not integrate Bika Labs since it is under Plone/Zope. 2. I am exploring options to include a dicom viewer which has an inbuilt ecgviewer. 3. I have a data model for pharmacy which i am planning to incorporate within care2x which includes billing of its own. 4. I have been following discussions on the new generation of care2x and in my opinion considering rubyonrails and spring framework would be worth the while. I would also like to place my special thanks to the
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
Hi, I also checked the said online demo. Yes, indeed it looks good. Nice work Justin. Elpidio On 7/2/07, jENELLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin, All I can say is WOW! I just checked your Care2x demo and it is amazing! Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, jENELLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Justin, I'm also interested in the integration you have done and with the billing module for the pharmacy itself. Please update me once the documentation and source code are ready so I can contribute recommendations as well. Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, Elpidio Latorilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bala, that said integration you made is very good. Please coordinate with Claudio Torbinio for the source and documentation that you are planning to submit to the project. Thank you very much. Elpidio On 7/2/07, Bala Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Carers, If i may, i would like to take this opportunity to share with you all certain details pertaining to Care2x billing module. I have been able to integrate care2x with SimpleInvoice (another open source project at http://www.simpleinvoices.org/). I would also like to place my appreciation and special thanks to the simpleinvoices team and more specifically to Mr.Nicolas Ruflin and Justin. Their contact details are given below for your reference and you could feel free to contact them for any other queries related to SimpleInvoice. Mr.Nicolas Ruflin Riehenring 191a 4058 Basel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruflin.com/ Mr. Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very simple integration and in my opinion is a very good replacement to ecombill. If you are interested, please take a look at the demo at www.softants.com/his (userid:demo, pwd:pass). I am just in the process of putting together a very simple documentation and shall be ready by the week-end to post the same. Once when that is ready, i could post the source code and the documentation to this forum or as per the advise of the moderator. Care2x is a great project and i am committed to contribute much more than the current one. A brief on my agenda... 1. I am exploring to rework the Lab module to something similar to Bika Labs which is ISO 17025 ready. I could not integrate Bika Labs since it is under Plone/Zope. 2. I am exploring options to include a dicom viewer which has an inbuilt ecgviewer. 3. I have a data model for pharmacy which i am planning to incorporate within care2x which includes billing of its own. 4. I have been following discussions on the new generation of care2x and in my opinion considering rubyonrails and spring framework would be worth the while. I would also like to place my special thanks to the community for the initiatives and more specifically to Elpidio Latorilla for intitiating this project in the first place. Regards ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
Thanks to Bala for the integration. elpidio On 7/2/07, Elpidio Latorilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I also checked the said online demo. Yes, indeed it looks good. Nice work Justin. Elpidio On 7/2/07, jENELLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin, All I can say is WOW! I just checked your Care2x demo and it is amazing! Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, jENELLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Justin, I'm also interested in the integration you have done and with the billing module for the pharmacy itself. Please update me once the documentation and source code are ready so I can contribute recommendations as well. Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, Elpidio Latorilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bala, that said integration you made is very good. Please coordinate with Claudio Torbinio for the source and documentation that you are planning to submit to the project. Thank you very much. Elpidio On 7/2/07, Bala Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Carers, If i may, i would like to take this opportunity to share with you all certain details pertaining to Care2x billing module. I have been able to integrate care2x with SimpleInvoice (another open source project at http://www.simpleinvoices.org/). I would also like to place my appreciation and special thanks to the simpleinvoices team and more specifically to Mr.Nicolas Ruflin and Justin. Their contact details are given below for your reference and you could feel free to contact them for any other queries related to SimpleInvoice. Mr.Nicolas Ruflin Riehenring 191a 4058 Basel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruflin.com/ Mr. Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very simple integration and in my opinion is a very good replacement to ecombill. If you are interested, please take a look at the demo at www.softants.com/his (userid:demo, pwd:pass). I am just in the process of putting together a very simple documentation and shall be ready by the week-end to post the same. Once when that is ready, i could post the source code and the documentation to this forum or as per the advise of the moderator. Care2x is a great project and i am committed to contribute much more than the current one. A brief on my agenda... 1. I am exploring to rework the Lab module to something similar to Bika Labs which is ISO 17025 ready. I could not integrate Bika Labs since it is under Plone/Zope. 2. I am exploring options to include a dicom viewer which has an inbuilt ecgviewer. 3. I have a data model for pharmacy which i am planning to incorporate within care2x which includes billing of its own. 4. I have been following discussions on the new generation of care2x and in my opinion considering rubyonrails and spring framework would be worth the while. I would also like to place my special thanks to the community for the initiatives and more specifically to Elpidio Latorilla for intitiating this project in the first place. Regards ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
hi, just checked the demo...really nice work... gjergji On 7/2/07, Elpidio Latorilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I also checked the said online demo. Yes, indeed it looks good. Nice work Justin. Elpidio On 7/2/07, jENELLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin, All I can say is WOW! I just checked your Care2x demo and it is amazing! Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, jENELLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Justin, I'm also interested in the integration you have done and with the billing module for the pharmacy itself. Please update me once the documentation and source code are ready so I can contribute recommendations as well. Thanks, jENELLE On 7/2/07, Elpidio Latorilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bala, that said integration you made is very good. Please coordinate with Claudio Torbinio for the source and documentation that you are planning to submit to the project. Thank you very much. Elpidio On 7/2/07, Bala Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Carers, If i may, i would like to take this opportunity to share with you all certain details pertaining to Care2x billing module. I have been able to integrate care2x with SimpleInvoice (another open source project at http://www.simpleinvoices.org/). I would also like to place my appreciation and special thanks to the simpleinvoices team and more specifically to Mr.Nicolas Ruflin and Justin. Their contact details are given below for your reference and you could feel free to contact them for any other queries related to SimpleInvoice. Mr.Nicolas Ruflin Riehenring 191a 4058 Basel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruflin.com/ Mr. Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very simple integration and in my opinion is a very good replacement to ecombill. If you are interested, please take a look at the demo at www.softants.com/his (userid:demo, pwd:pass). I am just in the process of putting together a very simple documentation and shall be ready by the week-end to post the same. Once when that is ready, i could post the source code and the documentation to this forum or as per the advise of the moderator. Care2x is a great project and i am committed to contribute much more than the current one. A brief on my agenda... 1. I am exploring to rework the Lab module to something similar to Bika Labs which is ISO 17025 ready. I could not integrate Bika Labs since it is under Plone/Zope. 2. I am exploring options to include a dicom viewer which has an inbuilt ecgviewer. 3. I have a data model for pharmacy which i am planning to incorporate within care2x which includes billing of its own. 4. I have been following discussions on the new generation of care2x and in my opinion considering rubyonrails and spring framework would be worth the while. I would also like to place my special thanks to the community for the initiatives and more specifically to Elpidio Latorilla for intitiating this project in the first place. Regards ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration
Hi Bala Good job @ http://www.softants.com/his I have planned next release on 07/15/2007 Let me have the source in time for a powerfull integration (we need the lines to translate) It will be merged in the next release Regards CGT - Original Message - From: Bala Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Care2002 developers care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and SimpleInvoice Integration Hi Carers, If i may, i would like to take this opportunity to share with you all certain details pertaining to Care2x billing module. I have been able to integrate care2x with SimpleInvoice (another open source project at http://www.simpleinvoices.org/). I would also like to place my appreciation and special thanks to the simpleinvoices team and more specifically to Mr.Nicolas Ruflin and Justin. Their contact details are given below for your reference and you could feel free to contact them for any other queries related to SimpleInvoice. Mr.Nicolas Ruflin Riehenring 191a 4058 Basel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ruflin.com/ Mr. Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very simple integration and in my opinion is a very good replacement to ecombill. If you are interested, please take a look at the demo at www.softants.com/his (userid:demo, pwd:pass). I am just in the process of putting together a very simple documentation and shall be ready by the week-end to post the same. Once when that is ready, i could post the source code and the documentation to this forum or as per the advise of the moderator. Care2x is a great project and i am committed to contribute much more than the current one. A brief on my agenda... 1. I am exploring to rework the Lab module to something similar to Bika Labs which is ISO 17025 ready. I could not integrate Bika Labs since it is under Plone/Zope. 2. I am exploring options to include a dicom viewer which has an inbuilt ecgviewer. 3. I have a data model for pharmacy which i am planning to incorporate within care2x which includes billing of its own. 4. I have been following discussions on the new generation of care2x and in my opinion considering rubyonrails and spring framework would be worth the while. I would also like to place my special thanks to the community for the initiatives and more specifically to Elpidio Latorilla for intitiating this project in the first place. Regards ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: 250 biglietti da visita Gratis + 42 modelli e Etichette per Indirizzo Gratis + Porta biglietti Gratis -Offerta limitata! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=6783d=3-7 - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
