Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-21 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 21/6/07 at 6:31 PM +0100, Matt S Trout 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Is one of those a 'preferred' method for setting the default view?


Well, one is global and one is per-request.

So both are preferred for their specific purpose :)


I figured as much and I appreciate the clarification. I had 
already gone with the global (config) approach.


 Is the problem I encountered symptomatic of a bug within  
Catalyst that needs to be fixed? As a 'quick' solution can I  
suggest the Catalyst debug output show which view is being 
used.  Knowing that a different view was being used would have 
saved me  many hours on this.


I think we'll probably make the fallthrough regex either warn or (if nobody's
actually relying on it, which I -hope- they aren't) simply not exist in 5.80.

I've never seen it mentioned in over a year except as a causer of bugs, so
I think it may be time to screw backcompat on that particular misfeature and
do something more sensible.


Sounds good to me. I've been really impressed with Catalyst so 
far, and getting rid of 'unexpected' behaviour would be a good thing.


Thanks for all your help with this.


Charlie

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-21 Thread Matt S Trout
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 10:30:17AM +1000, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> On 20/6/07 at 4:32 PM +1000, Charlie Garrison 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I've run into a problem that I can't make any progress with; 
> >hoping someone might be able offer suggestions.
> >
> >Development was moving along nicely and then I suddenly got the following 
> >error in a response:
> >
> >Couldn't render template "file error - welcome.tt2: not found"
> 
> I broke out the debugger and I think I found the cause of the 
> problem (at least *a* cause if not *the* cause). I have a custom 
> view that I use for creating email messages. That view is 
> getting found instead of the default View::TT.
> 
> That also explains why the TT:P debug output was not being 
> printed; the TT view was not being used.
> 
> So, what are my best options for fixing this? (I'd also like to 
> learn more and understand why adding another controller or 
> module causes a different view to be used.)
> 
> I'm guessing the best solution is to specify which view 
> RenderView should be using. I have done that by adding 
> "default_view => 'TT'" to MyApp->config.
> 
> __PACKAGE__->config(
> name => 'MyApp',
> default_view => 'TT',
> 
> );
> 
> I also tested by setting current_view in the end/RenderView action.
> 
> $c->stash->{current_view} = 'TT';
> 
> Is one of those a 'preferred' method for setting the default view?

Well, one is global and one is per-request.

So both are preferred for their specific purpose :)
 
> Is the problem I encountered symptomatic of a bug within 
> Catalyst that needs to be fixed? As a 'quick' solution can I 
> suggest the Catalyst debug output show which view is being used. 
> Knowing that a different view was being used would have saved me 
> many hours on this.

I think we'll probably make the fallthrough regex either warn or (if nobody's
actually relying on it, which I -hope- they aren't) simply not exist in 5.80.

I've never seen it mentioned in over a year except as a causer of bugs, so
I think it may be time to screw backcompat on that particular misfeature and
do something more sensible.

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-21 Thread Matt S Trout
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:01:03AM +1000, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> On 20/6/07 at 7:49 AM +0100, Matt S Trout 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Most probable cause:
> >
> >You've got a mistyped $c->model(...) or c.model(...) declaration somewhere
> >which is falling through to Catalyst's regex search, and -was- originally
> >finding the right class because of that but the addition of the extra class
> >has caused the hash order for the search to change and now you aren't.
> >
> >Likely candidates are either a typo or missing DB:: off a DB::Foo-style
> >DBIC::Schema model reference.
> 
> In an effort to eliminate possible spelling errors as the cause, 
> I removed all controllers except Root and changed Root.pm to 
> only have one action (index) which simply sets 
> $c->response->body. In that configuration the problem goes away.
> 
> I slowly added controllers back and the problem didn't recur 
> until I added the last controller back. To determine if problem 
> was with that specific controller, I removed a different 
> controller and the errors goes away.
> 
> So, I'm not having the same problem with controllers as with 
> models. There seems to be a limit on the number of controllers 
> or models. I add one more and I get the 'file not found' error, 
> it doesn't seem to matter which controller or model I add, only 
> the number of them.

There is no such limit.

We've seen this before and it's -always- turned out to be hash-order
related in terms of the fall-through component search, a certain number
of entries causes the keys to be searched in a different order.
 
> At this point rather than asking for specific solutions, does 
> anyone have suggestions on how to debug this problem? Bill 
> suggested enabling debugging in Template::Provider (see other 
> message in this thread) but I'm not having any luck with that.

Try, in your MyApp.pm, adding

sub _comp_search {
  my $c = shift;
  warn "Fallthrough regex search called for @_";
  $c->NEXT::_comp_search(@_);
}

and looking for that warning being activated.

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 20/6/07 at 4:32 PM +1000, Charlie Garrison 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've run into a problem that I can't make any progress with; 
hoping someone might be able offer suggestions.


Development was moving along nicely and then I suddenly got the following error 
in a response:

Couldn't render template "file error - welcome.tt2: not found"


I broke out the debugger and I think I found the cause of the 
problem (at least *a* cause if not *the* cause). I have a custom 
view that I use for creating email messages. That view is 
getting found instead of the default View::TT.


That also explains why the TT:P debug output was not being 
printed; the TT view was not being used.


So, what are my best options for fixing this? (I'd also like to 
learn more and understand why adding another controller or 
module causes a different view to be used.)


I'm guessing the best solution is to specify which view 
RenderView should be using. I have done that by adding 
"default_view => 'TT'" to MyApp->config.


__PACKAGE__->config(
name => 'MyApp',
default_view => 'TT',

);

I also tested by setting current_view in the end/RenderView action.

$c->stash->{current_view} = 'TT';

Is one of those a 'preferred' method for setting the default view?

Is the problem I encountered symptomatic of a bug within 
Catalyst that needs to be fixed? As a 'quick' solution can I 
suggest the Catalyst debug output show which view is being used. 
Knowing that a different view was being used would have saved me 
many hours on this.


Anyway, back to work now. Even with this loss of time I'm still 
getting this project done much faster with Catalyst than using 
my old home-made framework. It's really good kit.


Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 20/6/07 at 7:49 AM +0100, Matt S Trout 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Most probable cause:

You've got a mistyped $c->model(...) or c.model(...) declaration somewhere
which is falling through to Catalyst's regex search, and -was- originally
finding the right class because of that but the addition of the extra class
has caused the hash order for the search to change and now you aren't.

Likely candidates are either a typo or missing DB:: off a DB::Foo-style
DBIC::Schema model reference.


In an effort to eliminate possible spelling errors as the cause, 
I removed all controllers except Root and changed Root.pm to 
only have one action (index) which simply sets 
$c->response->body. In that configuration the problem goes away.


I slowly added controllers back and the problem didn't recur 
until I added the last controller back. To determine if problem 
was with that specific controller, I removed a different 
controller and the errors goes away.


So, I'm not having the same problem with controllers as with 
models. There seems to be a limit on the number of controllers 
or models. I add one more and I get the 'file not found' error, 
it doesn't seem to matter which controller or model I add, only 
the number of them.


At this point rather than asking for specific solutions, does 
anyone have suggestions on how to debug this problem? Bill 
suggested enabling debugging in Template::Provider (see other 
message in this thread) but I'm not having any luck with that.


Some very anxious people mulling around on this end. All 
assistance is appreciated.


Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 20/6/07 at 2:55 PM -0700, Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Doesn't really sound like your problem,
although it's a bit odd that adding a schema class would effect
how TT finds templates.


I would agree with that.  :-|


If you are getting a template not found error then maybe enabling
debugging in Template::Provider would help -- or just throw in a few
warn messages to see what paths it's looking for the template.


Would you mind giving some specifics. I added "DEBUG => '1'" to 
__PACKAGE__->config in my View::TT but I'm not seeing any extra 
debug info. I am using a mostly default setup for View::TT,


__PACKAGE__->config({
CATALYST_VAR => 'Catalyst',
INCLUDE_PATH => [
RP->path_to( 'root', 'src' ),
RP->path_to( 'root', 'lib' )
],
PRE_PROCESS  => 'config/main',
WRAPPER  => 'site/wrapper',
ERROR=> 'error.tt2',
TIMER=> 0,
TEMPLATE_EXTENSION => '.tt2',
DEBUG=> '1',
});

How do I enable debugging in Template::Provider? Following the 
man page, I also tried this:


use Template::Constants qw( :debug );
__PACKAGE__->config({
..
DEBUG=> DEBUG_PROVIDER,
});

With that option I got this:

[Template::Provider] creating cache of unlimited slots for [ 
CODE(0x1d38890) ]


But no other debugging output that I could see.

Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 07:20:20AM +1000, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> I saw recent messages in the archive regarding that (maybe from 
> you). So I went looking for templates cached to disk. From what 
> I can tell, templates will only be cached to disk if I set up my 
> TT options accordingly, is that correct? So I should only be 
> dealing with memory cache which should get cleared each time I 
> restart the dev server.

That problem I was talking about was independent of disk caching.
It means you often had to restart the server after a template error
or else the template would not be found even after correcting the
error in the template.  Doesn't really sound like your problem,
although it's a bit odd that adding a schema class would effect
how TT finds templates.

But, yes, you have to enable disk caching of compiled templates
explicitly.

> Upgrading to TT 2.19 has not fixed my problem. If anyone else 
> has suggestions I'd love to hear them. Development has ground to 
> a halt here and I'm getting very anxious (deadlines and all that).

If you are getting a template not found error then maybe enabling
debugging in Template::Provider would help -- or just throw in a few
warn messages to see what paths it's looking for the template.





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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 20/6/07 at 6:31 AM -0700, Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What version of TT are you using?  Does it get fixed if you restart
the dev server?


I *was* using 2.18. Yes, I have been restarting between tests.


Not too old versions of TT had a problem that once an error was found
in a template the template then always missing.  I don't see it
mentioned in Changes but I suspect you need 2.19 if that's the problem
you are hitting.


I saw recent messages in the archive regarding that (maybe from 
you). So I went looking for templates cached to disk. From what 
I can tell, templates will only be cached to disk if I set up my 
TT options accordingly, is that correct? So I should only be 
dealing with memory cache which should get cleared each time I 
restart the dev server.


Upgrading to TT 2.19 has not fixed my problem. If anyone else 
has suggestions I'd love to hear them. Development has ground to 
a halt here and I'm getting very anxious (deadlines and all that).


Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Bill Moseley
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:32:27PM +1000, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> Good afternoon,
> 
> I've run into a problem that I can't make any progress with; 
> hoping someone might be able offer suggestions.
> 
> Development was moving along nicely and then I suddenly got the 
> following error in a response:
> 
> Couldn't render template "file error - welcome.tt2: not found"

What version of TT are you using?  Does it get fixed if you restart
the dev server?

Not too old versions of TT had a problem that once an error was found
in a template the template then always missing.  I don't see it
mentioned in Changes but I suspect you need 2.19 if that's the problem
you are hitting.

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good afternoon,

On 20/6/07 at 7:49 AM +0100, Matt S Trout 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



You've got a mistyped $c->model(...) or c.model(...) declaration somewhere
which is falling through to Catalyst's regex search, and -was- originally
finding the right class because of that but the addition of the extra class
has caused the hash order for the search to change and now you aren't.


One other thing. With the test I'm doing now, there are no 
models being loaded (via $c->model or c.model), so would a 
misspelling have any effect anyway?



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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good afternoon,

On 20/6/07 at 7:49 AM +0100, Matt S Trout 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Most probable cause:

You've got a mistyped $c->model(...) or c.model(...) declaration somewhere
which is falling through to Catalyst's regex search, and -was- originally
finding the right class because of that but the addition of the extra class
has caused the hash order for the search to change and now you aren't.


This sounds like a possible cause, but I just did a search 
across all my app modules for 'model(' and none of them appear 
to be incorrect. And I don't reference any models directly from 
my template views.



Likely candidates are either a typo or missing DB:: off a DB::Foo-style
DBIC::Schema model reference.


I also checked all the relationship declarations for a typo and 
couldn't see anything there either. End of a long work day now 
so I'll leave it and hope for other suggestions. Or maybe fresh 
eyes in the morning will spot the typo.


Thanks for your assistance and if you have other suggestions, 
please let me know.


Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good afternoon,

On 20/6/07 at 4:09 PM +0930, Jon Schutz 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Looks like a side-effect of another error.  If $c->stash->{template} is
not set, it defaults to the action name.

Presumably you have a sub called 'welcome' in your controller class and
under normal processing you set $c->stash->{template} = "something".
What happens if an error occurs with your DBIC schema manipulation -
does it bypass the setting of the template?


Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think this is it. The 
$c->stash->{template} is being set explicitly and I've tested 
against different controllers & actions and the error from TT 
always shows the expected template name.


Thanks,
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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-20 Thread Matt S Trout
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:32:27PM +1000, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> Good afternoon,
> 
> I've run into a problem that I can't make any progress with; 
> hoping someone might be able offer suggestions.
> 
> Development was moving along nicely and then I suddenly got the 
> following error in a response:
> 
> Couldn't render template "file error - welcome.tt2: not found"
> 
> The only thing I could find that would stop the error was 
> removing the last DBIC schema class that I added to 
> load_classes. Since I couldn't see anything obviously wrong with 
> the class/module, I tried duplicating a known good class and 
> renaming it. When I add that class I get the same error. I 
> tested with a variety of different modules and the only 
> consistency I could find was that adding one more class caused 
> the above error.
> 
> I tried changing the order of classes loaded and the problem persists.
> 
> I leave the new class in place and remove one of the existing 
> classes, and the problem disappears. There seems to be a maximum 
> limit on the number of classes I can have loaded. I'm only at 19 
> classes and I find it hard to believe that would be a limit. So...

Most probable cause:

You've got a mistyped $c->model(...) or c.model(...) declaration somewhere
which is falling through to Catalyst's regex search, and -was- originally
finding the right class because of that but the addition of the extra class
has caused the hash order for the search to change and now you aren't.

Likely candidates are either a typo or missing DB:: off a DB::Foo-style
DBIC::Schema model reference.

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Re: [Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-19 Thread Jon Schutz
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:32 +1000, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> Good afternoon,
> 
> I've run into a problem that I can't make any progress with; 
> hoping someone might be able offer suggestions.
> 
> Development was moving along nicely and then I suddenly got the 
> following error in a response:

>  Couldn't render template "file error - welcome.tt2: not found"
> 

Looks like a side-effect of another error.  If $c->stash->{template} is
not set, it defaults to the action name.

Presumably you have a sub called 'welcome' in your controller class and
under normal processing you set $c->stash->{template} = "something".
What happens if an error occurs with your DBIC schema manipulation -
does it bypass the setting of the template?

HTH.

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[Catalyst] Adding DBIC schema causes TT error

2007-06-19 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good afternoon,

I've run into a problem that I can't make any progress with; 
hoping someone might be able offer suggestions.


Development was moving along nicely and then I suddenly got the 
following error in a response:


Couldn't render template "file error - welcome.tt2: not found"

The only thing I could find that would stop the error was 
removing the last DBIC schema class that I added to 
load_classes. Since I couldn't see anything obviously wrong with 
the class/module, I tried duplicating a known good class and 
renaming it. When I add that class I get the same error. I 
tested with a variety of different modules and the only 
consistency I could find was that adding one more class caused 
the above error.


I tried changing the order of classes loaded and the problem persists.

I leave the new class in place and remove one of the existing 
classes, and the problem disappears. There seems to be a maximum 
limit on the number of classes I can have loaded. I'm only at 19 
classes and I find it hard to believe that would be a limit. So...


I thought it might be a resource limit problem so I increased 
limits with ulimit; the problem persists.


I don't know what else to try, any advise or suggestions would 
really be appreciated. If this should move to DBIC list, please 
let me know. But at this point the error is coming from TT so 
I'm not convinced it's just a DBIC issue. And if I need to 
supply more details, again please let me know.


Thanks,
Charlie

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