[ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Weyand
Dear Charles,

to your information:

I just downloaded the Version 6.1 source tar file to my x86_64 Linux box
(SuSE 10.2, AMD64) and got the following tar error message.
All other (LINUX-386 and both COOCH and PHASER) tar files were fine!!

--- SNIP
...
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/ps.resource
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/full_names.list
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind.cif
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind2.cif
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

--- SNIP

May be a corrupt file?

Regards
Michael

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Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

2008-12-04 Thread Winter, G (Graeme)
Dear Michael,

How did you do the download? I have just downloaded this file using the old 
fashioned command line ftp method, and it worked fine. I expect that there has 
been an error somewhere in the transmission.

If you fetch the file from:

ftp ftp.ccp4.ac.uk
cd ccp4/6.1
get ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz

you should find that everything is fine. If not, please get in touch directly 
with the helpdesk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will try to work out what is 
happening.

Thanks  best wishes,

Graeme




-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Michael Weyand
Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 8:59 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz  TAR error
 
Dear Charles,

to your information:

I just downloaded the Version 6.1 source tar file to my x86_64 Linux box
(SuSE 10.2, AMD64) and got the following tar error message.
All other (LINUX-386 and both COOCH and PHASER) tar files were fine!!

--- SNIP
...
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/ps.resource
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/full_names.list
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind.cif
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind2.cif
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

--- SNIP

May be a corrupt file?

Regards
Michael

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Re: [ccp4bb] Temperature factor discrepancy

2008-12-04 Thread Anastassis Perrakis

Hi Wim,

I think that the main question I would ask is how you calculate the  
Wilson B factor with 3.0-3.5 A data ...
We have done a rather big study of about 12,000 structures and below  
2.5 A, how you calculate the B can result to
major discrepancies. There is hardly a line to get the gradient of. If  
you use some scaling to an ideal plot like BEST or ARP/wARP
(same algorithm there) the minimizer and 'spikes' can have a huge  
influence.


btw, have you optimized in both cases the Bfactor restraints weight ?
I wonder if that would change things (it will change the FreeR ...)

See Ian Tickle's article
http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2007/12/00/gx5119/index.html

I would also expect to use tighter geometry in this resolution btw ...!
(don't be fooled if the current rmsd gives the lower Rfree: if you  
change B weight this will very likely change!)


btw, why not use TLS ? For one thing you will get better FreeR and  
hopefully better B factor refinement ...!


A.


PS If you want to try things overnight I tend to do something like this:

#!/bin/csh -f
#
echo xweight bweight rfactorrfree  rmszbonds   stats.log
foreach xweight ( 0.04 0.06 0.08 0.1 0.12 0.14 0.16 0.18 0.20 0.25 0.30)
foreach bweight ( 0.1 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1.0 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2.0 2.5 3.0 )
#

#Put you REFMAC script here
# As you can eg obtain it from 'Run and View Command file
# make sure it has these two lines
weight MATRIX ${xweight}
temp ${bweight} 2.0 3.0 2.0 3.0
#
###
echo -n ${xweight} ${bweight}  stats.log
#The line below will grep the right thing if you do 20 cycles of  
refinement 10 TLS, 10 normal in my case
awk '(NF=11){if ($1==20) print $2, $3, $8}' refmac_${xweight}_$ 
{bweight}.log   stats.log

end
end
#



On Dec 3, 2008, at 16:59, Wim Burmeister wrote:

I should have given the precision that the problem remains  
unaffected by a change of the resolution range (even if I use for  
example only 4.5 to 3 A resolution).
I am not using TLS and the data are quite isotropic. Rcryst values  
are as expected for such a structure.

Anopther 3.5 A dataset does not show the problem (right column).
Wilson plot B-factor [Å2]

66

43

Refinement





Rcryst

0.186 (0.259)

0.190 (0.239)

Rfree

0.268 (0.408)

0.256 (0.278)

Rms deviations from ideal bondlengths (Å)

0.020

0.018

Rms deviations from ideal bond angles (°)

2.0

1.9

Average B-factor [Å2]

39

46

Values for the highest resolution bin are given in brackets.



Cheers

Wim

Wim Burmeister a écrit :


Dear all,

I have a 3 A structure refined with REFMAC which gives consistently  
average atomic B-factors of 40 A2, whereas the B factor from a  
Wilson plot is about 60 A2. Is there any explanation for such a  
discrepancy?

There are no obvious problems:
No twinning, spacegroup P21 with two molecules in the asu, no  
proper ncs symmetry. No pathologic Wilson plot, complete and  
redundant dataset (although collected on several crystals with  
serious problems due to radiation damage).
Interestingly, the Wilson plot of the Fcalc values is about 60 A2  
as for Fobs in the output dataset.


Yours

Wim




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[ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Tim Gruene

Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein 
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and 
especially recommendations.


We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.

Tim


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Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Chavas Leo

Dear Tim --

On 4 Dec 2008, at 15:16, Tim Gruene wrote:
we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein  
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and  
especially recommendations.


I love the Nanodrop system... I know you said you don't want anything  
fancy, but I like to spend as little protein as possible when  
measuring its concentration, and I like it fast and reproducible.  
Plus, in my hands, the Nanodrop system give very reproducible  
results. Small problem... expensive...

You can find infos there:
http://www.nanodrop.com/nd-1000-overview.html

HTH
Kind regards.

-- Leo --

Chavas Leonard, Ph.D. @ home
Research Associate
Marie Curie Actions Fellow

Faculty of Life Sciences
The University of Manchester
The Michael Smith Building
Oxford Road
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread James M. Vergis
I would also recommend the nanodrop.  It takes a whole spectra every
measurement and there is no need to dilute your sample.  You can demo it for
a week and try it out.  



James M. Vergis, Ph.D.
University of Virginia Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics
MKWEINR 360A Snyder Building
480 Ray C. Hunt Drive
PO Box  800886
Charlottesville, VA 22908-0886
phone: 434-243-2730   FAX: 434-243-8271
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-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
Gruene
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:16 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein 
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and 
especially recommendations.

We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.

Tim


--
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Huiying Li
Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the 
neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution the REFMAC 
refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I have included 
torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I thought I could 
play with the weight or the esd of the target value but having trouble to 
achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the target value is a 
way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to 
enforce a geometry effectively in REFMAC.


Thanks for any comments.

Huiying

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:

If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need to include it in 
the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.


Thanks Abhinav 
Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for Structural 
Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292 



Huiying Li wrote:
I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on the tortion angles 
that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a ligand bound to 
the protein. A few things that confused me:


1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the 
tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?


2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle parameters: 
_chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file REFMAC also 
lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1 through 4.


3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only one user 
controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight here, does it change 
the torsion weight for all 4 periods?


Thanks in advance for the help.

Huiying




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Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry
Natural Sciences I, Rm 2443
University of California at Irvine
Irvine, CA 92697, USA
Tel: 949-824-4322(or -1953);  Fax: 949-824-3280
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Jim Fairman
We use a Beckman Coulter DU730.  It has a small footprint if lab space is an
issue.  It will do single-wavelength, multi-wavelength, or take an entire
spectrum in 0.5 nm steps if you desire.  It comes with the standard 1 ml
cuvette holder, but we also purchased the microcuvette accessory for volumes
in the 100 uL range.  We've been using the instrument for over a year now
with no problems.  Results for determining protein concentrations using the
method of Pace et al * *Protein
Sci.javascript:AL_get(this,%20'jour',%20'Protein%20Sci.');1995
Nov;4(11):2411-23 are very reproducible using this spec.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, James M. Vergis [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I would also recommend the nanodrop.  It takes a whole spectra every
 measurement and there is no need to dilute your sample.  You can demo it
 for
 a week and try it out.


 
 James M. Vergis, Ph.D.
 University of Virginia Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics
 MKWEINR 360A Snyder Building
 480 Ray C. Hunt Drive
 PO Box  800886
 Charlottesville, VA 22908-0886
 phone: 434-243-2730   FAX: 434-243-8271
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


 -Original Message-
 From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
 Gruene
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:16 AM
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

 Dear all,

 we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
 concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
 especially recommendations.

 We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.

 Tim


 --
 Tim Gruene
 Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
 Tammannstr. 4
 D-37077 Goettingen

 GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A




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University of Tennessee -- Knoxville
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Mischa Machius
Tim - I would recommend a spectrometer that records entire spectra,  
instead of one that takes readings at just 280 nm. Contributions from  
light scattering can be very strong and can give results that deviate  
from the true value by a factor of two or more. One cannot detect  
scattering without recording spectra. The most severe case we have had  
was someone who thought the protein concentration was 10 mg/mL (based  
on 280) when in reality (after subtraction of the scattering  
contribution) it was only 4 mg/mL. Lots of other, less severe cases as  
well. Hope that helps. Best - MM



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Associate Professor
Department of Biochemistry
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On Dec 4, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:


Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein  
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and  
especially recommendations.


We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be  
sufficient.


Tim


--
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Huiying

At 2.1A I would be very surprised if you see any density for the H atom
in which case the refinement is not going to move it out of the plane
whatever weight you give the torsion restraint.  To answer your earlier
questions the period of a torsion restraint is the number of energy
minima in a complete rotation of the angle, so the OH bond will have a
period of 2, and
yes the same overall weight is applied to all torsions regardless of the
period, though individual torsions will also be weighted by 1/sd^2.

Cheers

-- Ian 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
 Sent: 04 December 2008 16:35
 To: Abhinav Kumar
 Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC
 
 Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the 
 neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution 
 the REFMAC 
 refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I 
 have included 
 torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I 
 thought I could 
 play with the weight or the esd of the target value but 
 having trouble to 
 achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the 
 target value is a 
 way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to 
 enforce a geometry effectively in REFMAC.
 
 Thanks for any comments.
 
 Huiying
 
 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:
 
  If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need 
 to include it in 
  the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.
 
  Thanks Abhinav 
  Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for 
 Structural 
  Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292 
 
 
  Huiying Li wrote:
  I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on 
 the tortion angles 
  that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a 
 ligand bound to 
  the protein. A few things that confused me:
  
  1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the 
  tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?
  
  2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle 
 parameters: 
  _chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file 
 REFMAC also 
  lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1 
 through 4.
  
  3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only 
 one user 
  controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight 
 here, does it change 
  the torsion weight for all 4 periods?
  
  Thanks in advance for the help.
  
  Huiying
 
 
 -- 
 Huiying Li, Ph. D
 Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry
 Natural Sciences I, Rm 2443
 University of California at Irvine
 Irvine, CA 92697, USA
 Tel: 949-824-4322(or -1953);  Fax: 949-824-3280
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


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[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Position in Macromolecular Crystallography

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Gajhede
A postdoctoral position in macromolecular crystallography is available
at the three Cassiopeia beamlines at Max-Lab in Lund, Sweden, for a
period of two years starting as soon as possible. The Danscatt
consortium (www.danscatt.dk) is funding the position, and the successful
candidate will work full time at Max-Lab. The postdoc will provide
general support to all Cassiopeia users for 1/3 of the working time. The
remaining 2/3 will be dedicated to collaborative projects, including
publications, with Danish macromolecular crystallography laboratories,
and to the development of new directions within macromolecular
crystallography at Cassiopeia. Max-Lab has excellent crystallization
robotics, crystal imaging facilities, and structure determination tools.
With respect to new directions, the post-doc is expected to participate
in:

  * Installation and implementation of a free mounting system for MX
  * Proof of principle studies for a solution SAXS beamline with the
option for microfludics applications
  * Implementation of automated sample changers for crystal mounting
at MX beamlines

The successful candidate will refer to professor Michael Gajhede,
Biostructural Research, Department of Medicinal Chemistry, University of
Copenhagen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), from whom further details on the position
can be obtained.  Further details concerning the Cassiopeia beamlines
are available from beamline manager Thomas Ursby
[EMAIL PROTECTED], see also cassiopeia.maxlab.lu.se.

On 23 October 2008, the Swedish government expressed support for the
construction of a unique third-generation synchrotron, the Max-IV, which
is planned to house two superb MX beamlines and one beamline for
solution SAXS. The post-doc is invited to participate in the development
of the detailed plans for these beamlines. In addition, the Max-IV may
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Homepages of Danish MX laboratories: www.farma.ku.dk/BR,
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Selected recent MX publications from Danish MX laboratories:

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Applications should be sent to: 
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University of Copenhagen
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Deadline for applications: 15 January 2009 at 12:00 noon.  

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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Patrick Loll
At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from  
crystallography:


How can you get realistic numbers for concentrated solutions using  
the Nanodrop?  I understand that the instrument reduces absorbance by  
using a very short path length. However, I thought that in order for  
the Beer-Lambert formalism to be applicable, the solution needs to be  
sufficiently dilute so that the chance of molecules shadowing one  
another is negligible. Isn't this condition violated for concentrated  
solutions (even with short path lengths)?


Pat

On 4 Dec 2008, at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin wrote:


We also like the Nanodrop...


 
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread hari jayaram
We too have a nano-drop. We really like it , but have not  yet fully
switched over.

I agree with all the good things said about it , but here are the few times
the nano drop falls short:

1) We still use the old spec ( 1 cm path length ) for things at a very low
concentration , i.e for the monitoring free thiols in protein with ellman
reagent , the absorbances are very low and give poor reproducibility on the
nanodrop because of small path-length . Of course this can be overcome by
using a lot of protein at a higher concentration and modifying the assay.
2) For very concentrated membrane protein samples which tend to have a large
concentration of detergent . The reproducibility is not very good because of
the high concentration of deteregent preventing a proper meniscus from
forming. The solution to this is to dilute your sample so the dteergent
concentration is manageable ( a few times the CMC instead of tens of times
the CMC

Other than for these issues we almost entirely use the nanodrop and would
gladly recommend it
Hari

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We also like the Nanodrop.  Very fast, no cuvettes (breaking, washing,
 cleaning, uh nitric acid bath anyone?), and the .ndv data file is a
 delimited text file.  Open in a text editor, copy and paste into a
 spreadsheet, and you have a convenient record of all of your stocks,
 including date, sample name, concentration, and full spectra.

 It is expensive, but so are good cuvettes.


 Mike


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 The Scripps Research Institute
 Department of Molecular and Experimental Medicine
 10550 North Torrey Pines Road, MEM-131
 La Jolla, CA 92037
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 lab:  858-784-7758

 On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Tim Gruene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
  concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
  especially recommendations.
 
  We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.
 
  Tim
 
 
  --
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  Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
  Tammannstr. 4
  D-37077 Goettingen
 
  GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
 



[ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Clemens Steegborn
 

Hi Tim,

 

The Shimadzu UV2401PC comes at a reasonable price and has all features you
might possible need in a

Biochemistry lab. And if you like the option to use small sample volumes, I
would suggest to by a TrayCell

from Helma - you put it in a regular photometer, it guides the light through
a microliter chamber and back

into the photometer (it is essentially a cuvette with optics and a 1 or 5
microliter chamber). Costs a few

hundred Euros .

If you're sure you will never need regular cuvettes - go for Nanodrop. If
you want more flexibility, Shimadzu

plus TrayCell . 

 

Best

Clemens

 


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[ccp4bb] error message for using xfit in ccp4

2008-12-04 Thread Mona Rahman
Hello all,

We would appreciate your help on an error message one of our graduate students 
has encountered using Xfit in CCP4.  You can respond to him directly at:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Thank you
Mona Rahman


 Forwarded Message 
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Thanks Mona

Here is error message for using the xfit in ccp4.

 xfit
Starting XtalView 4.0 for OS: Linux version: 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.PAE
Copyright (C) 1992-9 Duncan McRee and The Scripps Research Institute
Set LANG to C
Color Table initialized with 136 values from /usr/local/XtalView/data/colors.dat
XView warning: Cannot load font '-bh-lucida-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*' 
(Font package)
XView warning: Cannot load font 
'-bh-lucida-medium-r-normal-sans-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*' (Font package)
XView error: Cannot open connection to window server: :0.0 (Server package)

We are using Fedora 10 

Thanks

Jimin

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Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Huiyang

OK sorry for misunderstanding.  I think that kind of out-of-plane
restraint is usually enforced by means of a chiral restraint (even if
the group in question is not chiral).  You would need to calculate the
expected chiral volume of the C atom for the target position of the O
atom.

Cheers

-- Ian

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
 Sent: 04 December 2008 19:51
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC
 
 Thank you all for suggestions and explanations. I did not 
 make it clear. The 
 tilt angle I wanted to restrain is the one from a C-OH bond 
 to a plane 
 (The C is in the plane). The O atom of OH group is not in the planar 
 restraint in the cif file. At 2.1A I can see the feature of 
 tilting of 
 this OH group from the initial density map when the ligand 
 was absent. 
 But the density seems not strong enough to convince REFMAC 
 that there is 
 a tilt there. I have used very low weight term of 0.05 in the 
 GUI to down 
 weight the X-ray term. Refinement still pushed OH into the 
 plane. I wonder 
 if there are other tricks that can impose the restraint for 
 this torsion 
 angle.
 
 Best,
 Huiying
 
 On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Ian Tickle wrote:
 
  Hi Huiying
  
  At 2.1A I would be very surprised if you see any density 
 for the H atom
  in which case the refinement is not going to move it out of 
 the plane
  whatever weight you give the torsion restraint.  To answer 
 your earlier
  questions the period of a torsion restraint is the number of energy
  minima in a complete rotation of the angle, so the OH bond 
 will have a
  period of 2, and
  yes the same overall weight is applied to all torsions 
 regardless of the
  period, though individual torsions will also be weighted by 1/sd^2.
  
  Cheers
  
  -- Ian
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
  Sent: 04 December 2008 16:35
  To: Abhinav Kumar
  Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
  Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC
  
  Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the
  neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution
  the REFMAC
  refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I
  have included
  torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I
  thought I could
  play with the weight or the esd of the target value but
  having trouble to
  achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the
  target value is a
  way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to
  enforce a geometry effectively in REFMAC.
  
  Thanks for any comments.
  
  Huiying
  
  On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:
  
  If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need
  to include it in
  the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.
  
  Thanks Abhinav
  Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for
  Structural
  Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292
  
  
  Huiying Li wrote:
  I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on
  the tortion angles
  that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a
  ligand bound to
  the protein. A few things that confused me:
  
  1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the
  tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?
  
  2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle
  parameters:
  _chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file
  REFMAC also
  lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1
  through 4.
  
  3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only
  one user
  controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight
  here, does it change
  the torsion weight for all 4 periods?
  
  Thanks in advance for the help.
  
  Huiying
  
  
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Filip Van Petegem
I want to add I absotely hate the nanodrop.  We've had a demo for it, and
found the readouts to be very unreliable.  Fluctuations of 20% and more.
Just leaving the same drop in and measuring the sample multiple times gives
different values (going in both directions, so not only due to
evaportations). Sure, it's easy and fast, and maybe good to have a rough
idea about your protein concentration, but I would never want to use it for
exact measurements such as needed for e.g. a CD or an ITC instrument. I've
heard other labs in our department have similar issues.  We've also had a
demo for the Nanovue from GE Healthcare:  same issues - very large
fluctuations from one sample to another.  I suppose this is simply an
inherent problem with small volumes...

Cheers

Filip Van Petegm



On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Patrick Loll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from
 crystallography:
 How can you get realistic numbers for concentrated solutions using the
 Nanodrop?  I understand that the instrument reduces absorbance by using a
 very short path length. However, I thought that in order for the
 Beer-Lambert formalism to be applicable, the solution needs to be
 sufficiently dilute so that the chance of molecules shadowing one another
 is negligible. Isn't this condition violated for concentrated solutions
 (even with short path lengths)?

 Pat

 On 4 Dec 2008, at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin wrote:

 We also like the Nanodrop...


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