Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-07 Thread Natalie Tatum 
Are there any structural biology (or similiar) discord servers out there?

Natalie

*Dr. Natalie J. Tatum*

Research Associate

Lead Academic in Structural Computational Chemistry

Cancer Research Horizons Newcastle Drug Discovery Unit

Newcastle University


On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 19:33, Stéphane Betzi 
wrote:

> Why not give Researchgate a chance?
>
> Best
>
> Stephane Betzi
> PhD
> CNRS researcher
> CRCM, Marseille France
>
>
> Le 6 déc. 2023 19:47, John Gross <
> b6c4dbcf03ce-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> a écrit :
>
> Below are Bluesky codes for those that want to create an account and
> experiment with that platform.
>
> NB-once a code is used it will no longer work, so forgive me if someone
> takes the code(s) before you can get to it.
>
> I agree with what has been said and am still trying to find the right
> platform as a home.   I’m trying to figure out how to be seen on the
> Mastodon Structural Biology federations, as my account is on the general
> science platform ( mstdn.science.)
>
> John
>
>
> bsky-social-ber35-6cij3
>
> bsky-social-kgctd-yzagy
>
> bsky-social-phtvy-kjkez
>
> bsky-social-hp536-lpgnz
>
>
> bsky-social-vbs7q-zbbyv
>
>
>
> —
> John Gross, Ph.D.
> Professor
> Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
> California Institute for Quantitative Biosciences
>
> UCSF, Mission Bay, Genentech Hall
> 600 16th Street
> S-512E, Box 2280
> San Francisco, CA 94143-2280
> UPS/FedEx/DHL use zip code 94107
> Phone: (415) 502-1897
> Fax:  (415) 502-8298
> Email:  jdgr...@cgl.ucsf.edu
> Pronouns: he/him/his
> Administrative Assistant:
> alyssa@ucsf.edu
>
> On Dec 5, 2023, at 11:57 PM, Guillaume Gaullier <
> guillaume.gaull...@kemi.uu.se> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I can also recommend posting on a Mastodon instance. There is no
> algorithmic promotion of posts or accounts, which means you have to work a
> bit more to find interesting people to follow, but the reward is generally
> nicer, with more genuine interactions (since all the "popularity contest"
> features are either absent or not prominently displayed, like the metrics
> of answers, reposts, stars, etc.).
>
> Speaking of, Dave, did you mean at_fediscience_dot_org for this last
> instance?
>
> Many people seem to have moved to bluesky, but I would not recommend
> posting there if your goal is for your posts to be visible beyond your
> peers in your field: having an account is mandatory to see any content on
> bluesky (without an account, one only sees the login page), and at the
> moment new accounts can only be registered with an invitation from an
> already existing account.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Guillaume
> @guilla...@fediscience.org
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2023, at 08:18, David Briggs  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our
> recent papers.
>
> Views : Linkedin came out on top.
>
> Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.
>
> X didn't really do much, last I checked.
>
> There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several
> servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...
>
> at_struct_dot_bio
> at_mstdn_dot_science
> at_biologists_dot_social
> at_cryoEM_dot_social
> at_qoto_dot_org
> at_fediverse_dot_science
>
> Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a
> structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe) that acts a bit
> like a distribution list.
>
> Hth,
>
> Contact me off list if I can help get you started.
>
> Dave
> @xtald...@xtaldave.net
>
> (Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it
> tripped the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)
>
>
> *Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB*
> Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
> Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
> The Francis Crick Institute
> London, UK
> ==
> about.me/david_briggs
> --
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Marc
> Graille 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X
>
>
> *External Sender:* Use caution.
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people
> have resigned from X.
> I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was
> a great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping
> abreast of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research
> interests.
> I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.
>
> C

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-06 Thread Stéphane Betzi 
Why not give Researchgate a chance?BestStephane BetziPhDCNRS researcher CRCM, Marseille FranceLe 6 déc. 2023 19:47, John Gross <b6c4dbcf03ce-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> a écrit :Below are Bluesky codes for those that want to create an account and experiment with that platform.NB-once a code is used it will no longer work, so forgive me if someone takes the code(s) before you can get to it.I agree with what has been said and am still trying to find the right platform as a home.   I’m trying to figure out how to be seen on the Mastodon Structural Biology federations, as my account is on the general science platform ( mstdn.science.)Johnbsky-social-ber35-6cij3bsky-social-kgctd-yzagybsky-social-phtvy-kjkezbsky-social-hp536-lpgnzbsky-social-vbs7q-zbbyv
—John Gross, Ph.D.ProfessorDepartment of Pharmaceutical ChemistryCalifornia Institute for Quantitative BiosciencesUCSF, Mission Bay, Genentech Hall600 16th StreetS-512E, Box 2280San Francisco, CA 94143-2280UPS/FedEx/DHL use zip code 94107Phone: (415) 502-1897Fax:  (415) 502-8298Email:  jdgr...@cgl.ucsf.eduPronouns: he/him/hisAdministrative Assistant:alyssa@ucsf.edu

On Dec 5, 2023, at 11:57 PM, Guillaume Gaullier  wrote:




Hello,


I can also recommend posting on a Mastodon instance. There is no algorithmic promotion of posts or accounts, which means you have to work a bit more to find interesting people to follow, but the reward is generally nicer, with more genuine interactions (since
 all the "popularity contest" features are either absent or not prominently displayed, like the metrics of answers, reposts, stars, etc.).


Speaking of, Dave, did you mean at_fediscience_dot_org for this last instance?


Many people seem to have moved to bluesky, but I would not recommend posting there if your goal is for your posts to be visible beyond your peers in your field: having an account is mandatory to see any content on bluesky (without an account,
 one only sees the login page), and at the moment new accounts can only be registered with an invitation from an already existing account.


Cheers,













Guillaume

@guilla...@fediscience.org


















On 6 Dec 2023, at 08:18, David Briggs <david.bri...@crick.ac.uk> wrote:



Hi all,




I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our recent papers.




Views : Linkedin came out on top.




Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.




X didn't really do much, last I checked.




There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...




at_struct_dot_bio

at_mstdn_dot_science 

at_biologists_dot_social

at_cryoEM_dot_social

at_qoto_dot_org

at_fediverse_dot_science




Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe) that acts a bit like a distribution list.




Hth,




Contact me off list if I can help get you started.




Dave

@xtald...@xtaldave.net 




(Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it tripped the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)








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Principal Laboratory Research Scientist

Signalling and Structural Biology Lab

The Francis Crick Institute

London, UK

==

about.me/david_briggs





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Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM
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Subject: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X
 


 

External Sender: Use caution.
 
Dear colleagues,


I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have resigned from X.
I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests. 
I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.


Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?


Best wishes,


Marc

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Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne <tim.gru...@univie.ac.at> a écrit :


Hi Mark,
responsible people are resigning from X.
Cheers,
Tim

Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij:
just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter:
This exciting paper sho

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-06 Thread John Gross 
Below are Bluesky codes for those that want to create an account and experiment 
with that platform.

NB-once a code is used it will no longer work, so forgive me if someone takes 
the code(s) before you can get to it.

I agree with what has been said and am still trying to find the right platform 
as a home.   I’m trying to figure out how to be seen on the Mastodon Structural 
Biology federations, as my account is on the general science platform ( 
mstdn.science.)

John


bsky-social-ber35-6cij3

bsky-social-kgctd-yzagy

bsky-social-phtvy-kjkez

bsky-social-hp536-lpgnz


bsky-social-vbs7q-zbbyv



—
John Gross, Ph.D.
Professor
Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
California Institute for Quantitative Biosciences

UCSF, Mission Bay, Genentech Hall
600 16th Street
S-512E, Box 2280
San Francisco, CA 94143-2280
UPS/FedEx/DHL use zip code 94107
Phone: (415) 502-1897
Fax:  (415) 502-8298
Email:  jdgr...@cgl.ucsf.edu
Pronouns: he/him/his
Administrative Assistant:
alyssa@ucsf.edu

> On Dec 5, 2023, at 11:57 PM, Guillaume Gaullier 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I can also recommend posting on a Mastodon instance. There is no algorithmic 
> promotion of posts or accounts, which means you have to work a bit more to 
> find interesting people to follow, but the reward is generally nicer, with 
> more genuine interactions (since all the "popularity contest" features are 
> either absent or not prominently displayed, like the metrics of answers, 
> reposts, stars, etc.).
> 
> Speaking of, Dave, did you mean at_fediscience_dot_org for this last instance?
> 
> Many people seem to have moved to bluesky, but I would not recommend posting 
> there if your goal is for your posts to be visible beyond your peers in your 
> field: having an account is mandatory to see any content on bluesky (without 
> an account, one only sees the login page), and at the moment new accounts can 
> only be registered with an invitation from an already existing account.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Guillaume
> @guilla...@fediscience.org <mailto:guilla...@fediscience.org>
> 
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2023, at 08:18, David Briggs > <mailto:david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our 
>> recent papers.
>> 
>> Views : Linkedin came out on top.
>> 
>> Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.
>> 
>> X didn't really do much, last I checked.
>> 
>> There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several 
>> servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...
>> 
>> at_struct_dot_bio
>> at_mstdn_dot_science 
>> at_biologists_dot_social
>> at_cryoEM_dot_social
>> at_qoto_dot_org
>> at_fediverse_dot_science
>> 
>> Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a 
>> structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe 
>> <mailto:struc...@a.gup.pe>) that acts a bit like a distribution list.
>> 
>> Hth,
>> 
>> Contact me off list if I can help get you started.
>> 
>> Dave
>> @xtald...@xtaldave.net <mailto:xtald...@xtaldave.net> 
>> 
>> (Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it 
>> tripped the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)
>> 
>> 
>> Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB
>> Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
>> Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
>> The Francis Crick Institute
>> London, UK
>> ==
>> about.me/david_briggs <http://about.me/david_briggs>
>> From: CCP4 bulletin board > <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> on behalf of Marc Graille 
>> mailto:marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM
>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> 
>> mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>>
>> Subject: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X
>>  
>>  
>> External Sender: Use caution.
>>  
>> Dear colleagues,
>> 
>> I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people 
>> have resigned from X.
>> I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
>> great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping 
>> abreast of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research 
>> interests. 
>> I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.
>> 
>> Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific 
>> communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
&g

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-06 Thread David Briggs 
Hi Robbie,

you are of course correct - when you join a community, you are bound by their 
rules - so if you join a server that has rules against a particular subject, 
servers pushing those subjects are prone to get defederated.

The solution (AFAIK only available in Mastodon) is to setup your own server. 
You can either pay someone a small fee ( a few EUR/month) to host your server, 
or setup your own server if you are suitably savvy (I believe a small server 
can be run on a Raspberry PI or similar) and then you are lord of your own 
dominion. You get to decide who you federate with and who you see in your local 
various feeds. You can post about whatever takes your fancy.

I realise that this particular phrase has certain Brexity connotations, but 
Mastodon's democratisation/decentralisation of social media really allows one 
to "take back control" 🫠

Best,

Dave


--

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Principal Laboratory Research Scientist

Signalling and Structural Biology Lab

The Francis Crick Institute

London, UK

Working hours: Mon-Fri 0900-1700

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From: Robbie Joosten 
Sent: 06 December 2023 07:56
To: David Briggs ; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 

Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X


External Sender: Use caution.


Hi David,

Thank you for the Mastodon links. I like the idea of Mastodon, but many servers 
do blanket bans against other servers, particularly if these are very 
libertarian (e.g. have too much "Freeze Peach"). Your Mastodon 'heritage' seems 
to matter a lot. Nevertheless, it's good to see that engagement is growing. I 
find LinkedIn mostly useful for broadcasting, not really for engagement, so not 
really an X alternative.

Personally, I think it is a shame so many scientists left Twitter/X (or said 
they did/would). Especially if this is for activistic reasons. Yes, it is quite 
unfiltered nowadays, but I actually like to have things in the open whether I 
agree with them or not. It puts more responsibility on the community and the 
community notes help with that. Purely scientific posts don't seem to suffer 
from the new management and your timeline keeps having useful stuff as long if 
you actually engage with (not just follow) users of interest. I do use Twitter 
as a private person, not on behalf of my work. I wonder if that makes a 
difference to my experience.

It is important to note that many X alternatives are not available in the EU to 
avoid regulations (says something about those platforms). That makes Mastodon 
and X the only real options. That is, far behind the CCP4bb.

Cheers,
Robbie



> -Original Message-
> From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of David
> Briggs
> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 08:19
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X
>
> Hi all,
>
> I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our 
> recent papers.
>
> Views : Linkedin came out on top.
>
> Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.
>
> X didn't really do much, last I checked.
>
> There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several
> servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...
>
> at_struct_dot_bio
> at_mstdn_dot_science
> at_biologists_dot_social
> at_cryoEM_dot_social
> at_qoto_dot_org
> at_fediverse_dot_science
>
> Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a
> structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe) that acts a bit like a
> distribution list.
>
> Hth,
>
> Contact me off list if I can help get you started.
>
> Dave
> @xtald...@xtaldave.net
>
> (Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it 
> tripped
> the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB
>
> Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
>
> Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
>
> The Francis Crick Institute
>
> London, UK
>
> ==
>
> about.me/david_briggs 
> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fdavid_briggs&data=05%7C01%7C%7C04ab752fe0064d7e85a008dbf630dc81%7C4eed7807ebad415aa7a99170947f4eae%7C0%7C1%7C638374461962237452%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nfuQ7Xh1N0mMIdHKTu%2BMh%2Bf6Saoc%2Bjf1cE4Sy8UaBYQ%3D&reserved=0<http://about.me/david_briggs>>
>
> 
>
> From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Marc
> Graille 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM
> To: CCP4BB@JI

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-06 Thread Guillaume Gaullier 
> Yes, it [Twitter/X] is quite unfiltered nowadays, but I actually like to have 
> things in the open whether I agree with them or not. It puts more 
> responsibility on the community and the community notes help with that.

This would be fine without algorithmic promotion of posts and accounts. But 
with a system that adjusts visibility of messages in a way that is both opaque 
and akin to a popularity contest, can we really expect the community to 
self-regulate?

Guillaume


On 6 Dec 2023, at 08:56, Robbie Joosten 
mailto:robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi David,

Thank you for the Mastodon links. I like the idea of Mastodon, but many servers 
do blanket bans against other servers, particularly if these are very 
libertarian (e.g. have too much "Freeze Peach"). Your Mastodon 'heritage' seems 
to matter a lot. Nevertheless, it's good to see that engagement is growing. I 
find LinkedIn mostly useful for broadcasting, not really for engagement, so not 
really an X alternative.

Personally, I think it is a shame so many scientists left Twitter/X (or said 
they did/would). Especially if this is for activistic reasons. Yes, it is quite 
unfiltered nowadays, but I actually like to have things in the open whether I 
agree with them or not. It puts more responsibility on the community and the 
community notes help with that. Purely scientific posts don't seem to suffer 
from the new management and your timeline keeps having useful stuff as long if 
you actually engage with (not just follow) users of interest. I do use Twitter 
as a private person, not on behalf of my work. I wonder if that makes a 
difference to my experience.

It is important to note that many X alternatives are not available in the EU to 
avoid regulations (says something about those platforms). That makes Mastodon 
and X the only real options. That is, far behind the CCP4bb.

Cheers,
Robbie



-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
On Behalf Of David
Briggs
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 08:19
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

Hi all,

I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our recent 
papers.

Views : Linkedin came out on top.

Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.

X didn't really do much, last I checked.

There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several
servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...

at_struct_dot_bio
at_mstdn_dot_science
at_biologists_dot_social
at_cryoEM_dot_social
at_qoto_dot_org
at_fediverse_dot_science

Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a
structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe<mailto:struc...@a.gup.pe>) 
that acts a bit like a
distribution list.

Hth,

Contact me off list if I can help get you started.

Dave
@xtald...@xtaldave.net<mailto:xtald...@xtaldave.net>

(Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it tripped
the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)





Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB

Principal Laboratory Research Scientist

Signalling and Structural Biology Lab

The Francis Crick Institute

London, UK

==

about.me/david_briggs<http://about.me/david_briggs> 
<http://about.me/david_briggs>



From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
on behalf of Marc
Graille mailto:marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> 
mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>>
Subject: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X


External Sender: Use caution.

Dear colleagues,

I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have
resigned from X.
I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
great
tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast of
recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests.
I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.

Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific
communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?

Best wishes,

Marc
—
Marc GRAILLE, PhD
DR1-CNRS
Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale de la Cellule  (BIOC; Ex-Laboratoire de
Biochimie)
UMR7654 du CNRS


Head of the team: “Translation and degradation of eukaryotic mRNAs”


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<mailto:marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu>  /
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 Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne 
mailto:tim.gru..

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-06 Thread David Briggs 
Speaking of, Dave, did you mean at_fediscience_dot_org for this last instance?
Both!


--

Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB (he/him)

Principal Laboratory Research Scientist

Signalling and Structural Biology Lab

The Francis Crick Institute

London, UK

Working hours: Mon-Fri 0900-1700

==

about.me/david_briggs<https://about.me/david_briggs> | 
OrcID<https://orcid.org/-0002-9793-7339> | Google Scholar 
<https://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?user=DRKG5KwJ>


From: Guillaume Gaullier 
Sent: 06 December 2023 07:57
To: David Briggs 
Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk 
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X


External Sender: Use caution.

Hello,

I can also recommend posting on a Mastodon instance. There is no algorithmic 
promotion of posts or accounts, which means you have to work a bit more to find 
interesting people to follow, but the reward is generally nicer, with more 
genuine interactions (since all the "popularity contest" features are either 
absent or not prominently displayed, like the metrics of answers, reposts, 
stars, etc.).

Speaking of, Dave, did you mean at_fediscience_dot_org for this last instance?

Many people seem to have moved to bluesky, but I would not recommend posting 
there if your goal is for your posts to be visible beyond your peers in your 
field: having an account is mandatory to see any content on bluesky (without an 
account, one only sees the login page), and at the moment new accounts can only 
be registered with an invitation from an already existing account.

Cheers,

Guillaume
@guilla...@fediscience.org<mailto:guilla...@fediscience.org>


On 6 Dec 2023, at 08:18, David Briggs 
mailto:david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi all,

I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our recent 
papers.

Views : Linkedin came out on top.

Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.

X didn't really do much, last I checked.

There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several 
servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...

at_struct_dot_bio
at_mstdn_dot_science
at_biologists_dot_social
at_cryoEM_dot_social
at_qoto_dot_org
at_fediverse_dot_science

Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a 
structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe<mailto:struc...@a.gup.pe>) 
that acts a bit like a distribution list.

Hth,

Contact me off list if I can help get you started.

Dave
@xtald...@xtaldave.net<mailto:xtald...@xtaldave.net>

(Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it 
tripped the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)


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Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
The Francis Crick Institute
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Dear colleagues,

I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have 
resigned from X.
I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast 
of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests.
I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.

Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific 
communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?

Best wishes,

Marc
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DR1-CNRS
Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale de la Cellule  (BIOC; Ex-Laboratoire de 
Biochimie)
UMR7654 du CNRS

Head of the team: “Translation and degradation of eukaryotic mRNAs”

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Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne 
mailto:tim.gru...@univie.ac.at>> a écrit :

Hi Mark,
responsible people are resigning from X.
Cheers,
Tim

Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij:
just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter:
This exciting paper shows AI design of materials, robotic synthesis.
10s of new compounds in 17 days. But did they? This paper has very
serious problems in materials characterisation. In my view it should
never have got near publication. Hold on tight let's take a look 😱
[1]
Robert Palgrave (@Robert_Palgrave) on X [1]
twitter.com<h

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-05 Thread Guillaume Gaullier 
Hello,

I can also recommend posting on a Mastodon instance. There is no algorithmic 
promotion of posts or accounts, which means you have to work a bit more to find 
interesting people to follow, but the reward is generally nicer, with more 
genuine interactions (since all the "popularity contest" features are either 
absent or not prominently displayed, like the metrics of answers, reposts, 
stars, etc.).

Speaking of, Dave, did you mean at_fediscience_dot_org for this last instance?

Many people seem to have moved to bluesky, but I would not recommend posting 
there if your goal is for your posts to be visible beyond your peers in your 
field: having an account is mandatory to see any content on bluesky (without an 
account, one only sees the login page), and at the moment new accounts can only 
be registered with an invitation from an already existing account.

Cheers,

Guillaume
@guilla...@fediscience.org<mailto:guilla...@fediscience.org>


On 6 Dec 2023, at 08:18, David Briggs 
mailto:david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi all,

I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our recent 
papers.

Views : Linkedin came out on top.

Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.

X didn't really do much, last I checked.

There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several 
servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...

at_struct_dot_bio
at_mstdn_dot_science
at_biologists_dot_social
at_cryoEM_dot_social
at_qoto_dot_org
at_fediverse_dot_science

Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a 
structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe<mailto:struc...@a.gup.pe>) 
that acts a bit like a distribution list.

Hth,

Contact me off list if I can help get you started.

Dave
@xtald...@xtaldave.net<mailto:xtald...@xtaldave.net>

(Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it 
tripped the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)


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Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
The Francis Crick Institute
London, UK
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Subject: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X


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Dear colleagues,

I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have 
resigned from X.
I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast 
of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests.
I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.

Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific 
communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?

Best wishes,

Marc
—
Marc GRAILLE, PhD
DR1-CNRS
Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale de la Cellule  (BIOC; Ex-Laboratoire de 
Biochimie)
UMR7654 du CNRS

Head of the team: “Translation and degradation of eukaryotic mRNAs”

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Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne 
mailto:tim.gru...@univie.ac.at>> a écrit :

Hi Mark,
responsible people are resigning from X.
Cheers,
Tim

Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij:
just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter:
This exciting paper shows AI design of materials, robotic synthesis.
10s of new compounds in 17 days. But did they? This paper has very
serious problems in materials characterisation. In my view it should
never have got near publication. Hold on tight let's take a look 😱
[1]
Robert Palgrave (@Robert_Palgrave) on X [1]
twitter.com<http://twitter.com/> [1]
but I'm not enough of an expert to judge - perhaps some
characterizations were wrong and a lot of the paper does stand.
On 1 Dec 2023, at 20:51, Bryan Lepore 
mailto:bryanlep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Adding to that literature list a bit outside :
Merchant, A., Batzner, S., Schoenholz, S.S. _et al._
Quote:
"... we show that graph networks trained at scale can reach
unprecedented levels of generalization, improving the efficiency of
materials discovery by an order of magnitude. "
Scaling deep learning for materials discovery.
_Nature_ (2023), November
https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-023-06735-9
-
To

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-05 Thread Robbie Joosten 
Hi David,

Thank you for the Mastodon links. I like the idea of Mastodon, but many servers 
do blanket bans against other servers, particularly if these are very 
libertarian (e.g. have too much "Freeze Peach"). Your Mastodon 'heritage' seems 
to matter a lot. Nevertheless, it's good to see that engagement is growing. I 
find LinkedIn mostly useful for broadcasting, not really for engagement, so not 
really an X alternative.

Personally, I think it is a shame so many scientists left Twitter/X (or said 
they did/would). Especially if this is for activistic reasons. Yes, it is quite 
unfiltered nowadays, but I actually like to have things in the open whether I 
agree with them or not. It puts more responsibility on the community and the 
community notes help with that. Purely scientific posts don't seem to suffer 
from the new management and your timeline keeps having useful stuff as long if 
you actually engage with (not just follow) users of interest. I do use Twitter 
as a private person, not on behalf of my work. I wonder if that makes a 
difference to my experience.

It is important to note that many X alternatives are not available in the EU to 
avoid regulations (says something about those platforms). That makes Mastodon 
and X the only real options. That is, far behind the CCP4bb.

Cheers,
Robbie

  

> -Original Message-
> From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of David
> Briggs
> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 08:19
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our 
> recent papers.
> 
> Views : Linkedin came out on top.
> 
> Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.
> 
> X didn't really do much, last I checked.
> 
> There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several
> servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...
> 
> at_struct_dot_bio
> at_mstdn_dot_science
> at_biologists_dot_social
> at_cryoEM_dot_social
> at_qoto_dot_org
> at_fediverse_dot_science
> 
> Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a
> structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe) that acts a bit like a
> distribution list.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Contact me off list if I can help get you started.
> 
> Dave
> @xtald...@xtaldave.net
> 
> (Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it 
> tripped
> the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB
> 
> Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
> 
> Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
> 
> The Francis Crick Institute
> 
> London, UK
> 
> ==
> 
> about.me/david_briggs <http://about.me/david_briggs>
> 
> 
> 
> From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Marc
> Graille 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
> Subject: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X
> 
> 
> External Sender: Use caution.
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have
> resigned from X.
> I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
> great
> tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast of
> recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests.
> I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.
> 
> Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific
> communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Marc
> —
> Marc GRAILLE, PhD
> DR1-CNRS
> Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale de la Cellule  (BIOC; Ex-Laboratoire de
> Biochimie)
> UMR7654 du CNRS
> 
> 
> Head of the team: “Translation and degradation of eukaryotic mRNAs”
> 
> 
> ÉCOLE POLYTECHNIQUE
> 91128 PALAISEAU CEDEX
> FRANCE
> 📞: +33 (0)1 69 33 48 90
> 
> 
> 
>  : marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu <mailto:marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu>  /
> Twitter : @GrailleLab <https://twitter.com/GrailleLab>
> https://portail.polytechnique.edu/bioc/en/research/coupling-between-
> translation-and-mrna-degradation-eukaryotes
> —
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne  <mailto:tim.gru...@univie.ac.at> > a écrit :
> 
>   Hi Mark,
>   responsible people are resigning from X.
>   Cheers,
>   Tim
> 
>   Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij:
> 
> 
>   just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter:
>   This exciting paper shows AI design of materials, roboti

Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X

2023-12-05 Thread David Briggs 
Hi all,

I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our recent 
papers.

Views : Linkedin came out on top.

Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.

X didn't really do much, last I checked.

There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several 
servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...

at_struct_dot_bio
at_mstdn_dot_science
at_biologists_dot_social
at_cryoEM_dot_social
at_qoto_dot_org
at_fediverse_dot_science

Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a 
structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe) that acts a bit like a 
distribution list.

Hth,

Contact me off list if I can help get you started.

Dave
@xtald...@xtaldave.net

(Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it 
tripped the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)



Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB

Principal Laboratory Research Scientist

Signalling and Structural Biology Lab

The Francis Crick Institute

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Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
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External Sender: Use caution.

Dear colleagues,

I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have 
resigned from X.
I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast 
of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests.
I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.

Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific 
communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?

Best wishes,

Marc
—
Marc GRAILLE, PhD
DR1-CNRS
Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale de la Cellule  (BIOC; Ex-Laboratoire de 
Biochimie)
UMR7654 du CNRS

Head of the team: “Translation and degradation of eukaryotic mRNAs”

ÉCOLE POLYTECHNIQUE
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Twitter : @GrailleLab<https://twitter.com/GrailleLab>
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Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne 
mailto:tim.gru...@univie.ac.at>> a écrit :

Hi Mark,
responsible people are resigning from X.
Cheers,
Tim

Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij:
just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter:
This exciting paper shows AI design of materials, robotic synthesis.
10s of new compounds in 17 days. But did they? This paper has very
serious problems in materials characterisation. In my view it should
never have got near publication. Hold on tight let's take a look 😱
[1]
Robert Palgrave (@Robert_Palgrave) on X [1]
twitter.com<http://twitter.com/> [1]
but I'm not enough of an expert to judge - perhaps some
characterizations were wrong and a lot of the paper does stand.
On 1 Dec 2023, at 20:51, Bryan Lepore 
mailto:bryanlep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Adding to that literature list a bit outside :
Merchant, A., Batzner, S., Schoenholz, S.S. _et al._
Quote:
"... we show that graph networks trained at scale can reach
unprecedented levels of generalization, improving the efficiency of
materials discovery by an order of magnitude. "
Scaling deep learning for materials discovery.
_Nature_ (2023), November
https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-023-06735-9
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2023-12-05 Thread Marc Graille 
Dear colleagues,

I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have 
resigned from X.
I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast 
of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests. 
I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.

Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific 
communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?

Best wishes,

Marc
—
Marc GRAILLE, PhD
DR1-CNRS
Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale de la Cellule  (BIOC; Ex-Laboratoire de 
Biochimie)
UMR7654 du CNRS

Head of the team: “Translation and degradation of eukaryotic mRNAs”

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> Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Mark,
> responsible people are resigning from X.
> Cheers,
> Tim
> 
> Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij:
>> just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter:
>> This exciting paper shows AI design of materials, robotic synthesis.
>> 10s of new compounds in 17 days. But did they? This paper has very
>> serious problems in materials characterisation. In my view it should
>> never have got near publication. Hold on tight let's take a look 😱
>>   [1]
>> Robert Palgrave (@Robert_Palgrave) on X [1]
>> twitter.com [1]
>> but I'm not enough of an expert to judge - perhaps some
>> characterizations were wrong and a lot of the paper does stand.
>>> On 1 Dec 2023, at 20:51, Bryan Lepore  wrote:
>>> Adding to that literature list a bit outside :
>>> Merchant, A., Batzner, S., Schoenholz, S.S. _et al._
>>> Quote:
>>> "... we show that graph networks trained at scale can reach
>>> unprecedented levels of generalization, improving the efficiency of
>>> materials discovery by an order of magnitude. "
>>> Scaling deep learning for materials discovery.
>>> _Nature_ (2023), November
>>> https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-023-06735-9
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