Re: [ccp4bb] NCS and manual building

2008-11-28 Thread Jens T. Kaiser
MAIN does that for ages (n_molecules->generate_others). Also, the new COOT can 
do that (look in the - rather cluttered - treasure 
chest 'Extensions'->'NCS'->'Copy NCS chain')

HTH

-j.

On Wednesday 26 November 2008 00:25:12 Prakash Rucktooa wrote:
> Dear Olga,
>
> I have also encountered the same problem. Find below a script which will
> automate the superposition of one protomer onto the others.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Prakash
>
>
> Superposition script :-
>
> #!/usr/bin/tcsh -f
>
> grep -v -E '^END' Aorig.pdb > new.pdb
>
> rm mat1.mat
>
> foreach chain_name ( B C D E F G H I J )
>
> # Superposition of A on chain_name
> superpose Aorig.pdb tot.pdb -s ${chain_name} Aon${chain_name}.pdb | grep
> -A 4 Rx >> mat1.mat
>
> # Changing chain name to ${chain_name}
> pdbset xyzin Aon${chain_name}.pdb xyzout ${chain_name}.pdb < CHAIN $chain_name
> END
> eof
>
> grep -E "^ATOM  "  ${chain_name}.pdb >> new.pdb
>
> rm Aon${chain_name}.pdb
>
> end
>
> Olga Boudker wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I am working with a relatively low res. crystal structure with
> > multiple protomers in the asymmetric unit related by NCS.  I am
> > currently running rounds manual model building in Coot and refinement
> > using Refmac5.  Could anybody suggest a shortcut for the following
> > procedure:  I start with an initial model containing all protomers;
> > generate NCS operators for A to B, A to C et c.; rebuild protomer A;
> > use the operators and the rebuilt A to generate all other protomers;
> > and combine them all in a single pdb file.   Currently I do all that
> > manually using lsqkab and text edit and it is really painful.  Is
> > there an available routine to do this? For various reasons I would
> > like to stick with Refmac5 rather then CNS, in which of course the
> > symmetry would have been easier to implement.
> > Many thanks,
> > Olga


Re: [ccp4bb] NCS and manual building

2008-11-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson

Olga Boudker wrote:

Dear all,
I am working with a relatively low res. crystal structure with 
multiple protomers in the asymmetric unit related by NCS.  I am 
currently running rounds manual model building in Coot and refinement 
using Refmac5.  Could anybody suggest a shortcut for the following 
procedure:  I start with an initial model containing all protomers; 
generate NCS operators for A to B, A to C et c.; rebuild protomer A; 
use the operators and the rebuilt A to generate all other protomers; 
and combine them all in a single pdb file.   Currently I do all that 
manually using lsqkab and text edit and it is really painful.  Is 
there an available routine to do this? For various reasons I would 
like to stick with Refmac5 rather then CNS, in which of course the 
symmetry would have been easier to implement.

Many thanks,
Olga


Coot has tools to do this..
Fit your rebuilt A chain back over B C etc, change the chain ID 
appropriately and write it out.
You need to reassemble the whole agin but it does the standard 
superpositions..

Eleanor


Re: [ccp4bb] NCS and manual building

2008-11-26 Thread Prakash Rucktooa

Dear Olga,

I have also encountered the same problem. Find below a script which will 
automate the superposition of one protomer onto the others.


Best wishes

Prakash


Superposition script :-

#!/usr/bin/tcsh -f

grep -v -E '^END' Aorig.pdb > new.pdb

rm mat1.mat

foreach chain_name ( B C D E F G H I J )

# Superposition of A on chain_name
superpose Aorig.pdb tot.pdb -s ${chain_name} Aon${chain_name}.pdb | grep 
-A 4 Rx >> mat1.mat


# Changing chain name to ${chain_name}
pdbset xyzin Aon${chain_name}.pdb xyzout ${chain_name}.pdb <> new.pdb

rm Aon${chain_name}.pdb

end



Olga Boudker wrote:

Dear all,
I am working with a relatively low res. crystal structure with 
multiple protomers in the asymmetric unit related by NCS.  I am 
currently running rounds manual model building in Coot and refinement 
using Refmac5.  Could anybody suggest a shortcut for the following 
procedure:  I start with an initial model containing all protomers; 
generate NCS operators for A to B, A to C et c.; rebuild protomer A; 
use the operators and the rebuilt A to generate all other protomers; 
and combine them all in a single pdb file.   Currently I do all that 
manually using lsqkab and text edit and it is really painful.  Is 
there an available routine to do this? For various reasons I would 
like to stick with Refmac5 rather then CNS, in which of course the 
symmetry would have been easier to implement.

Many thanks,
Olga



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Re: [ccp4bb] NCS and manual building

2008-11-25 Thread Juergen Bosch

Use Coot
option 1)
rebuild your chain A and superimpose manually with Coot A to the other  
chains, then write out a new merged PDB file

option 2)
use the Coot command which allows you to copy whatever you have  
modeled in one chain to the other chains.

for more info check out the link:
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~emsley/coot/doc/chapters/user-manual_5.html#SEC136
option3)
since your NCS operators won't change by much you can generate a  
script using Moleman - but option 1+2 are easier


Jürgen

On 25 Nov 2008, at 11:18, Olga Boudker wrote:


Dear all,
I am working with a relatively low res. crystal structure with  
multiple protomers in the asymmetric unit related by NCS.  I am  
currently running rounds manual model building in Coot and  
refinement using Refmac5.  Could anybody suggest a shortcut for the  
following procedure:  I start with an initial model containing all  
protomers; generate NCS operators for A to B, A to C et c.; rebuild  
protomer A; use the operators and the rebuilt A to generate all  
other protomers; and combine them all in a single pdb file.
Currently I do all that manually using lsqkab and text edit and it  
is really painful.  Is there an available routine to do this? For  
various reasons I would like to stick with Refmac5 rather then CNS,  
in which of course the symmetry would have been easier to implement.

Many thanks,
Olga

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[ccp4bb] NCS and manual building

2008-11-25 Thread Olga Boudker

Dear all,
I am working with a relatively low res. crystal structure with 
multiple protomers in the asymmetric unit related by NCS.  I am 
currently running rounds manual model building in Coot and refinement 
using Refmac5.  Could anybody suggest a shortcut for the following 
procedure:  I start with an initial model containing all protomers; 
generate NCS operators for A to B, A to C et c.; rebuild protomer A; 
use the operators and the rebuilt A to generate all other protomers; 
and combine them all in a single pdb file.   Currently I do all that 
manually using lsqkab and text edit and it is really painful.  Is 
there an available routine to do this? For various reasons I would 
like to stick with Refmac5 rather then CNS, in which of course the 
symmetry would have been easier to implement.

Many thanks,
Olga

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