Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
Alarming development. Liberia is trying to censor news about the Ebola epidemic in that country. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/10/03/us-health-ebola-liberia-idUKKCN0HS15Q20141003 This crap is why it has spread so quickly in those countries. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
So tell us about your research. . On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > The major issue is that all of the news outlets are doing little more than > spreading fear and misinformation. Ignorant people then panicking about it > and spreading even more info that they read on tinfoil hat websites doesn't > help either. I wish there was a way to force people to research...that > would solve a lot of problems in many areas hehehe. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372793 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
Having spent most of the last week at the hospital watching infectious disease experts and pulmonary specialists try to diagnose what is wrong with my son, I have concluded that what they know about bacteria and viruses would fill a thimble with room left over for their brains. They spent two days doing cultures, decided that he has some rare strain of bacterial infection, fed him multiple bags of IV antibiotics, then decided that was not the real problem, only sample contamination. If he had a serious disease like Ebola, the sloppiness with which they have dealt with his illness would have infected the entire hospital by now. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372792 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
The major issue is that all of the news outlets are doing little more than spreading fear and misinformation. Ignorant people then panicking about it and spreading even more info that they read on tinfoil hat websites doesn't help either. I wish there was a way to force people to research...that would solve a lot of problems in many areas hehehe. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared? I think it's way too early to believe the science is settled. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page =2 . On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > I read it cannot be transmitted through the skin? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372791 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
Not without access to bodily fluids. A cut would certainly help to facilitate that. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared? I read it cannot be transmitted through the skin? On Thursday, October 9, 2014, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Yes...if you remove your protective suit the wrong way and come in > contact with body fluids that are on your protective suit...yup...you > are now infected. It is very virulent, but you still have to actually > come in contact with body fluids. The virus also lasts longer than > most outside the body. It will even remain active in dried up fluids > for several days. > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com ] > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:23 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared? > > > I don't know if it's that cut and dry. The latest American with > symptoms didn't have direct contact. Now they're also saying that if > you remove your protective suit the wrong way you'll get it. I think > we need to keep asking questions until they know for sure. I was > talking to a friend that works for the CDC about a month ago and he > said they have no definitive idea of how it spreads and how viral it > will get. I say, be cautious and wait for the science. > > . > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam > > > wrote: > > > >> > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the > >> > other > >> guys" > >> > yes. > >> > >> The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for > >> the press? > > > > > > I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the > > ground in African countries. > > > > The reason it's more infectious "over there" is for two reasons - > > one cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that > > include washing, dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased. > > The other is capacity which has been documented. ( > > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses > > -i > > n-ebola-country.html > > ) > > > > In the US the second of those issues is not an issue. The first > > might be a challenge but even then facilities are available. > > > > In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype. > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372790 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
I think it's way too early to believe the science is settled. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=2 . On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > I read it cannot be transmitted through the skin? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372789 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
I read it cannot be transmitted through the skin? On Thursday, October 9, 2014, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Yes...if you remove your protective suit the wrong way and come in contact > with body fluids that are on your protective suit...yup...you are now > infected. It is very virulent, but you still have to actually come in > contact with body fluids. The virus also lasts longer than most outside > the > body. It will even remain active in dried up fluids for several days. > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com ] > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:23 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared? > > > I don't know if it's that cut and dry. The latest American with symptoms > didn't have direct contact. Now they're also saying that if you remove your > protective suit the wrong way you'll get it. I think we need to keep asking > questions until they know for sure. I was talking to a friend that works > for > the CDC about a month ago and he said they have no definitive idea of how > it > spreads and how viral it will get. I say, be cautious and wait for the > science. > > . > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam > > wrote: > > > >> > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the > >> > other > >> guys" > >> > yes. > >> > >> The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the > >> press? > > > > > > I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the > > ground in African countries. > > > > The reason it's more infectious "over there" is for two reasons - one > > cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include > > washing, dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased. The > > other is capacity which has been documented. ( > > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-i > > n-ebola-country.html > > ) > > > > In the US the second of those issues is not an issue. The first might > > be a challenge but even then facilities are available. > > > > In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype. > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372788 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
Yes...if you remove your protective suit the wrong way and come in contact with body fluids that are on your protective suit...yup...you are now infected. It is very virulent, but you still have to actually come in contact with body fluids. The virus also lasts longer than most outside the body. It will even remain active in dried up fluids for several days. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:23 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared? I don't know if it's that cut and dry. The latest American with symptoms didn't have direct contact. Now they're also saying that if you remove your protective suit the wrong way you'll get it. I think we need to keep asking questions until they know for sure. I was talking to a friend that works for the CDC about a month ago and he said they have no definitive idea of how it spreads and how viral it will get. I say, be cautious and wait for the science. . On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam wrote: > >> > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the >> > other >> guys" >> > yes. >> >> The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the >> press? > > > I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the > ground in African countries. > > The reason it's more infectious "over there" is for two reasons - one > cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include > washing, dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased. The > other is capacity which has been documented. ( > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-i > n-ebola-country.html > ) > > In the US the second of those issues is not an issue. The first might > be a challenge but even then facilities are available. > > In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372787 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
Not to mention poor sanitation and infected drinking sources. The guy that came over here got it because he helped to carry his infected sister or cousin...I forget which offhand) who ended up dying. It is transmitted through the sweat, so when you pick a body up (and touch their skin or come in contact with cloth that is soaked with their seat, blood, puke, etc...), of someone that has died or is infection, you get infected. It's can also be transmitted sexually up to 6 weeks after recoverythey are trying to get males to make sure they wear condoms in the nations where the epidemic has been declared over to try and prevent a resurgence of it. -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:55 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared? On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam wrote: > > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the other > guys" > > yes. > > The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the > press? I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the ground in African countries. The reason it's more infectious "over there" is for two reasons - one cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include washing, dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased. The other is capacity which has been documented. ( http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebol a-country.html ) In the US the second of those issues is not an issue. The first might be a challenge but even then facilities are available. In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372786 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
I don't know if it's that cut and dry. The latest American with symptoms didn't have direct contact. Now they're also saying that if you remove your protective suit the wrong way you'll get it. I think we need to keep asking questions until they know for sure. I was talking to a friend that works for the CDC about a month ago and he said they have no definitive idea of how it spreads and how viral it will get. I say, be cautious and wait for the science. . On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam wrote: > >> > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the other >> guys" >> > yes. >> >> The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the >> press? > > > I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the ground in > African countries. > > The reason it's more infectious "over there" is for two reasons - one > cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include washing, > dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased. The other is capacity > which has been documented. ( > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebola-country.html > ) > > In the US the second of those issues is not an issue. The first might be a > challenge but even then facilities are available. > > In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372783 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
Ebola doesn't scare me for all the reasons Judah and Hatton laid out. But Nelson Cruz..he scares me. Goddamn juicer. Any Orioles fans on here? On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:55 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the other > > guys" > > > yes. > > > > The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the > > press? > > > I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the ground in > African countries. > > The reason it's more infectious "over there" is for two reasons - one > cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include washing, > dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased. The other is capacity > which has been documented. ( > > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebola-country.html > ) > > In the US the second of those issues is not an issue. The first might be a > challenge but even then facilities are available. > > In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype. > > Until Later! > C. Hatton Humphrey > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com > > Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some > smelting to find it. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372781 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam wrote: > > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the other > guys" > > yes. > > The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the > press? I've been listening to the doctors that have been working on the ground in African countries. The reason it's more infectious "over there" is for two reasons - one cultural because of the funeral rites of many tribes that include washing, dressing and even kissing the body of the deceased. The other is capacity which has been documented. ( http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebola-country.html ) In the US the second of those issues is not an issue. The first might be a challenge but even then facilities are available. In short, I'm not buying the fear or the hype. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372780 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
The reason that Ebola gets the attention that it does is because it is very visibly horrific. It is a truly awful disease and very difficult to treat. However, there is not a long period of transmissibility before a person becomes symptomatic and the transmission of the virus is (relatively) difficult because it is not airborne. Ebola is not often, if ever at all, transmitted through sneezing and never through coughing as far as anyone knows. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/06-october-2014/en/ It's an awful disease, no doubt. But not one that is really made for a pandemic. Cheers, Judah On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Vivec wrote: > > I'm reading about Ebola in the US. And the one side that claims it is a > massive pandemic waiting to happen, like the plague. And the doctors saying > that it's transmission rate is actually quite low, and it has only spread > the way it has in Africa because of the culture and socio-economic > situation. > > Then the man in Dallas died. And now they say someone he came into contact > with is showing symptoms. > > Point is, even if Ebola spreads via bodily fluids, isn't that a major > issue? Sneezing, coughing etc. can suspend droplets in the air around > someone for a period of time. how much bodily fluid does it take to catch > Ebola? I haven't been able to find answers to those questions. Certainly > not from mainstream news sources. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372779 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Vivec wrote: >> >> I'm reading about Ebola in the US. And the one side that claims it is a >> massive pandemic waiting to happen, like the plague. > > > By "one side" you must mean the > non-doctor-freakout-about-everything-specialists? >> And the doctors saying >> that it's transmission rate is actually quite low, and it has only spread >> the way it has in Africa because of the culture and socio-economic >> situation. >> > > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the other guys" > yes. The Doctors on the news or the Doctors sent out by the regime for the press? . ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372778 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/six-diseases-actually-worry/ These six diseases should worry you more than Ebola On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Vivec wrote: > > I'm reading about Ebola in the US. And the one side that claims it is a > massive pandemic waiting to happen, like the plague. And the doctors saying > that it's transmission rate is actually quite low, and it has only spread > the way it has in Africa because of the culture and socio-economic > situation. > > Then the man in Dallas died. And now they say someone he came into contact > with is showing symptoms. > > Point is, even if Ebola spreads via bodily fluids, isn't that a major > issue? Sneezing, coughing etc. can suspend droplets in the air around > someone for a period of time. how much bodily fluid does it take to catch > Ebola? I haven't been able to find answers to those questions. Certainly > not from mainstream news sources. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372776 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ebola in our hemisphere, you scared?
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Vivec wrote: > > I'm reading about Ebola in the US. And the one side that claims it is a > massive pandemic waiting to happen, like the plague. By "one side" you must mean the non-doctor-freakout-about-everything-specialists? > And the doctors saying > that it's transmission rate is actually quite low, and it has only spread > the way it has in Africa because of the culture and socio-economic > situation. > When it comes to disease I tend to listen to doctors over "the other guys" yes. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372773 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
