Why I'm a little worried about it being MM taking over
OK - while I'm happy that CF may survive (as a developer my strength is CF not ASP though I now have second thoughts) - my main worry is in my knowledge and experience of MacroMedia: I purchased Drumbeat 2000 (Drumbeat is the company that MM bought to develop UltraDev). Drumbeat was a visual tool that incorporated database access - though it's visual side lacked a lot of features. I never upgraded because it took so long for MM to release their UltraDev Version. So - time to market after company purchase. This worry extends to CF 5.0/6.0 with the Java Engine. I'm familiar with their FreeHand product, and have seen (what I believe) slow development of a product even in light of strong competition (Corel Draw and Adobe Illustrator), with a tendency to ignore the development community. I have never seen a product "pony show" so viciously ripped apart as they were up here in Calgary a while back. There was real venom from a lack of corporate response. I looked at .asp and went .cfm instead because of Unix support. Macromedia is inherently not Unix, UNLESS it's a Mac OSX port to be done. We are taking people who love their Macs. (I love Macs too - just server based, hell, DATABASE web work is generally Unix or NT, some J2EE). I own DreamWeaver and Studio. I use Studio. Enough said. Amazing Allaire off-line support and customer retention: I received a t-shirt because they rescheduled an online presentation. They are one of the few company's that has gone out of it's way to maintain my interest and support as a developer. Finally: Macromedia is primarily a graphics-platform company, and recently really only competed with Adobe. This is their first move into something much more founded in the structure of communication - not just the look and feel. I have some concern if the culture can bend to give the Allaire staff a sense of home. I hope most of the Allaire staff join Macromedia. Sniff! Hey - what happens to Ben Forta? (Ok so maybe from those last comments I'm just knee-jerking). But I guess I've staked close to 2 years of hardcore development on CF (with experimentation and some development in other areas), and my belief in MacroMedia as a corporate entity that can enter the server/code side of the market (because Allaire really isn't Studio - it's the underlying code base in Cold Fusion), is troubled. Can a graphics company successfully incorporate a hard-code set of engineers, and maket/maitain/grow a server product successfully? Well, I hope - and I'll try to give a benefit of the doubt. :-) Stephen Cassady President, Ububik new media [EMAIL PROTECTED] 403.271.0468 http://www.ububik.com http://www.tallylist.com http://www.spankmag.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: wow...
I was having a discussion about Allaire and Macromedia last night and the impact of Flash controls. At the time I was unaware. With this merger (if it happens) I have the horrible feeling CF will veer toward a Microsoft platform which could be a disaster. As we all know, Macromedia are firmly MS ANyone have a thought on this? - LEGAL DISCLAIMER -- This message and any attachments to it is intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or prohibited from disclosure or unauthorised use. If the recipient of this transmission is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering such materials to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message or its attachments other than by its intended recipient is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received it in error, please return it to the sender and destroy the message and/or copies in your possession. The views or opinions expressed in this email are that of the individual and not necessarily those of A.B.C (Systems and Development) Limited or any of it's subsidiaries. -Original Message- From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2001 22:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: wow... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Everyone seen this? :) Macromedia and Allaire to Merge http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?s=AOmTDYwsyTWFjcm9tT=marketsquot e99_news.ht -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOmTFpTp1Dv+56bwcEQInywCfVDE6WMqfPiNOTBKz1KSJVgK/KX8An2HS fOHTozSvLZoQ6Rif8sPzhuOA =XPsZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding
If you go to options - settings, and then go to Editor - colour coding, you can select html for instance and then 'edit scheme'. Here you will be able to change the colours to whatever you want, Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 419 4235 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 10:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding Does anyone know how to get the old colour coding back as it was with 4.5.1? I'm pretty sure HTML tags were never that... refreshing... shade of orange ;-) Thanks -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding
Its in the Studio Settings, Editor--Color Coding, and then in the HTML Scheme, HTML Form Tags. I quite like the Orange, at least they standout. Jason Lees National Express Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 10:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding Does anyone know how to get the old colour coding back as it was with 4.5.1? I'm pretty sure HTML tags were never that... refreshing... shade of orange ;-) Thanks -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding
Its in the Studio Settings, Editor--Color Coding, and then in the HTML Scheme, HTML Form Tags. I quite like the Orange, at least they standout. Thanks for the pointers. Can anyone remember what the old colours were (my addled brain just can't remember... were HTML green?) -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
Who cares about Flash; it is total bollox (if you want animation use Director) - I think also people dont remember that Flash was not orginally an MM product. N ! --- Neil Clark Senior Web Applications Engineer ColdFusion / Spectra / XML mcb digital [Allaire Premier Partner] Tel. +44 (0)20 8941 3232 Tel. +44 (0)20 8408 8131 [Direct] http://www.mcbdigital.com --- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding
Sorry... ignore the last post. I'd seen a page with only FORM tags on it and assumed all HTML tags had been changed to that colour. Not true. -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio Removing Last Character
Does Studio delete the last character all the time? And does it delete a single character even if that character is whitespace itself (like a br or tab or space) ? I've had problems with Studio 4.5.1 deleting the last line of a file, not just the last character. Have just installed 4.5.2 hopefully that might help. We'll see. -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding
The form tag was dark blue, the same as the html and body tags are, Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 419 4235 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 10:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding Its in the Studio Settings, Editor--Color Coding, and then in the HTML Scheme, HTML Form Tags. I quite like the Orange, at least they standout. Thanks for the pointers. Can anyone remember what the old colours were (my addled brain just can't remember... were HTML green?) -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
- Original Message - From: "Neil Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:48 AM Who cares about Flash; it is total bollox (if you want animation use Director) - I think also people dont remember that Flash was not orginally an MM product. People don't want animation. Research has proven (as has my own experience in talking to users over the years), that people (especially those on slow links) don't want all of this animated, presentation frontend stuff. They rather want to get straight to the point, and without being slowed down by graphics and other non-relevant content. The strength of this merger is in database driven application development. Macromedia bought Drumbeat, which was very ASP oriented, and has now been absorbed into UltraDev. If we can end up with a product for CF/JRun, which does everything from Studio to UltraDev - that would be quite something. Of course it would need to do ASP(.net) as well for the whole market. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding
Nope, they were a navy by default I think. I too quickly changed that lovely blistering shade of orange to a more retina friendly version. -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 17, 2001 05:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding Its in the Studio Settings, Editor--Color Coding, and then in the HTML Scheme, HTML Form Tags. I quite like the Orange, at least they standout. Thanks for the pointers. Can anyone remember what the old colours were (my addled brain just can't remember... were HTML green?) -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: big translation
Hi Peter, it's the more useful mail I've seen in weeks! ... Gracias! well, I have two questions for you ;). 1. You mention you have 16,000 values in the language table. May I worry about the size of my table ? I mean I might have 16,000 (rows) * 25 (bytes of length average each text string) * 5 (number of languages) = almost 2 MBytes of memory in a one application varible. is that an important matter ? 2. How you check the user's current language? do you see the URL to make that decision ? isn't an session variable ? both ? again... muchas gracias. ~Juandres - Original Message - From: Peter Theobald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: Re: big translation One of our sites, http://www.sponsorclick.com is translated into 5 languages so far (more coming). A quick synopsis of our method: We had to translate three things: text in the pages, values from the database, and images in the pages (some images have words in them). 1) Text: In Application.cfm we load a large structure into an Application variable (only has to load into memory ONCE) with all of the different text messages in each language we support. Each piece of text (we call a 'label') has a name and a value for each language. One example would be: Application.labels['en']['geninfo'] = "General Information" Application.labels['fr']['geninfo'] = "Informations générales" Application.labels['de']['geninfo'] = "Allgemeine Informationen" This structure is loaded from the database only once when the server starts up. (Of course we have admin pages to edit these values, and a facility to import Excel spreadsheets for bulk updates) We currently have over 16,000 values in this table in the database. Each time Application.cfm is run, we check the user's current language and assign a structure to the appropriate language set: variables.label = Application.labels[#language#] *note: this is making a POINTER to Application scope data in a local variable. Making a pointer is VERY fast. Copying the values would be much slower. This local variable, label, has to be locked as if it was an Application variable (because it really is). The only reason we didnt use Application.label is to save typing later on. We use automatic read locking on the Application scope to do this for all accesses to Application data. Now each instance on the page that needs to display text uses the variable: td b#label.geninfo# /b /td 2) Database values: All database values (mostly choices for select lists) come from a table that is generic enough to be used for all multilingual data: Table multilingual: list varchar(40) name varchar(40) order int value text= This is a LARGE TEXT field that can hold more than 256 characters, although most values are 100 characters 3) Images: All URLs on the site have the current language prepended to them, eg: /en/index.cfm, /fr/index.cfm, /de/index.cfm, etc. The Apache web server has mappings set up to remove the language for cfm and htm files so that /en/index.cfm is actually the file /index.cfm. Image URLs are simple relative URLs such as: 'IMG SRC=images/file.jgp'. The full URL would resolve to /en/images/file.jpg or /fr/images/file.jpg for example. The Apache web server also has mappings for /en/images = /languages/images/en/ and /fr/images = /languages/images/fr/ and so forth so the images will actually come from a language specific image directory At 02:10 PM 1/16/01 +0100, Javalenzuela wrote: Hi guys, I work in a Internet company (startup?) and we have +-600 CFM files (some with fusebox). Now, we are thinking to switch the website in 2+ languages (we are in Europe) but we don't know what is the best way to do this. I mean, something with few performance penalties and flexible enough to have several languages later (at beggining we only want 2 languages) some questions: - May I use BD to choose and retrieve all the text messages ? - May I enhance the pages with more intelligente in order to they can translate in each web request ? - what about to copy and translate each page in a off-line mode ? Anyone has some experience in this matter? Do you know links or URL about ? Any help is useful... (i want to make the rigth decision) thanks in advance, ~Juandres ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 10:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Neil Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:48 AM Who cares about Flash; it is total bollox (if you want animation use Director) - I think also people dont remember that Flash was not orginally an MM product. People don't want animation. Research has proven (as has my own experience in talking to users over the years), that people (especially those on slow links) don't want all of this animated, presentation frontend stuff. They rather want to get straight to the point, and without being slowed down by graphics and other non-relevant content. The strength of this merger is in database driven application development. Macromedia bought Drumbeat, which was very ASP oriented, and has now been absorbed into UltraDev. If we can end up with a product for CF/JRun, which does everything from Studio to UltraDev - that would be quite something. Of course it would need to do ASP(.net) as well for the whole market. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
The strength of this merger is in database driven application development. Macromedia bought Drumbeat, which was very ASP oriented, and has now been absorbed into UltraDev. If we can end up with a product for CF/JRun, which does everything from Studio to UltraDev - that would be quite something. Of course it would need to do ASP(.net) as well for the whole market. Problem being that now everyone will think they are a CF programmer, like all people using Dreamweaver think they are HTML/DHTML programmers (when half the time they haven't got a clue!). I think this is a good merger, but lets not get carried away. The worst thing is that the developer base is certain to increase from the increased exposure that the Macromedia name brings. That means more coders, more sites, less money for those who've been in it for longer! Not thinking just about money though, also thinking about the perception from managers and things. Still not sure about that yet... Paul ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio 4.5.2 and colour coding
The form tag was dark blue, the same as the html and body tags are, Ahh, thanks. -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: wow...
Asuming that you are talking about MS as opposed to Linux, I can see your point but I think that MM are in more of a position to battle .NET now. The Allaire products are firmly oppose tio ASP and moving more and more towards Java - now that M$ have turned their back on Java the products really will be opposed to .NET. I always thought that MM were more Apple than M$, maybe the BSD/OSX route will be interesting? -- Gavin Lilley Internet / Intranet Developer http://halesowen.ac.uk On Wednesday 17 January 2001 09:56, you wrote: I was having a discussion about Allaire and Macromedia last night and the impact of Flash controls. At the time I was unaware. With this merger (if it happens) I have the horrible feeling CF will veer toward a Microsoft platform which could be a disaster. As we all know, Macromedia are firmly MS ANyone have a thought on this? --- - - LEGAL DISCLAIMER -- This message and any attachments to it is intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or prohibited from disclosure or unauthorised use. If the recipient of this transmission is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering such materials to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message or its attachments other than by its intended recipient is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received it in error, please return it to the sender and destroy the message and/or copies in your possession. The views or opinions expressed in this email are that of the individual and not necessarily those of A.B.C (Systems and Development) Limited or any of it's subsidiaries. -Original Message- From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2001 22:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: wow... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Everyone seen this? :) Macromedia and Allaire to Merge http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?s=AOmTDYwsyTWFjcm9tT=marketsquot e99_news.ht -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOmTFpTp1Dv+56bwcEQInywCfVDE6WMqfPiNOTBKz1KSJVgK/KX8An2HS fOHTozSvLZoQ6Rif8sPzhuOA =XPsZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
- Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
mebe - it would have to done right - and still be easy to use / navigate - ultradev still seems to completely remove all my careful code indentation etc... Now if they could integrate some of the ultradev functionality into studio - then I'd be interested - but lets face it, theyre not likely to do that - they will keep on "improving" ultradev, until they feel there is no longer any need for studio. To be honest, I dont think they will get rid of studio - they have included homesite and trial versions of studio since dw2 - and I think its most likely that studio development will continue... I might be completely wrong - its probably best not to decide what macromedia will do, and make judgements at this stage - in a year or so's time we should know what direction things are going in... cheers dan -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
I actually prefer Dreamweaver to Studio (sorry guys!) But thats just because I started with the web with perl and asp before I found cf. I use a combination of Dreamweaver and notepad on NT and on Linux I am always getting new text editors - this week its cooledit. I do think that the harpoon project is interesting - I though that closer links were likely; but I didn't predict a take over. -- Gavin Lilley Internet / Intranet Developer http://halesowen.ac.uk On Wednesday 17 January 2001 11:25, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
I just hope that Macromedia keep developing code based editors and not try and get everyone using something like UltraDev (which IMHO is a pile of dog pooh...) I evaluated UltraDev and then it went the way of 99% of other editors I've used - Start - Settings - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs ;o) I guess I'm just of the old school that says you have to learn how to code an entire site in html using notepad and Paint Shop Pro before being unleashed on Dreamweaver... Let's hope that WYSIWYG doesn't become WYSINAWYGIFIS (what you see is not always what you get in fact it's scary) just my ten cents worth... oh and I agree with a previous poster that Flash is bollox! -= Ed -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Hmmm NO more Allaire
This could be bad, but then again 2 great companies, with great products, could be disaster, then again it could be great, ... Ya think Microsoft is sweating just a litlle bit? Michael ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
Thanks Edward.I couldn't have put it better myself! Coming from the 'learning html in notepad' background also, the thought of everything turning Dreamweaverish is a very scary prospect! Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 419 4235 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge I just hope that Macromedia keep developing code based editors and not try and get everyone using something like UltraDev (which IMHO is a pile of dog pooh...) I evaluated UltraDev and then it went the way of 99% of other editors I've used - Start - Settings - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs ;o) I guess I'm just of the old school that says you have to learn how to code an entire site in html using notepad and Paint Shop Pro before being unleashed on Dreamweaver... Let's hope that WYSIWYG doesn't become WYSINAWYGIFIS (what you see is not always what you get in fact it's scary) just my ten cents worth... oh and I agree with a previous poster that Flash is bollox! -= Ed -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Server remote-reboot-tools
Hi, is there any (CF-)Server remote-reboot-tool out (HW or/and SW) ? OS is Win NT 4. Would be great to get ideas here. Uwe ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
And there is someone who actually agrees with me too!!! That's rare, I've just been through major WYSIWYG withdrawal with a new recruit (fresh out of uni thinking that Front Page Extensions rule the universe!), a painful but necessary experience I'd quite like to round up everyone doing any web design courses at universities and colleges and labotomise them of any knowledge of WYSIWYG or anyother editor other than notepad until they've figured out that you can use transparent 1x1 pixel graphics to do just about anything with layout that you want ;o) Oh, I like your site too by the way Kath ;o) -= Ed -Original Message- From: Katherine Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge Thanks Edward.I couldn't have put it better myself! Coming from the 'learning html in notepad' background also, the thought of everything turning Dreamweaverish is a very scary prospect! Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 419 4235 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge I just hope that Macromedia keep developing code based editors and not try and get everyone using something like UltraDev (which IMHO is a pile of dog pooh...) I evaluated UltraDev and then it went the way of 99% of other editors I've used - Start - Settings - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs ;o) I guess I'm just of the old school that says you have to learn how to code an entire site in html using notepad and Paint Shop Pro before being unleashed on Dreamweaver... Let's hope that WYSIWYG doesn't become WYSINAWYGIFIS (what you see is not always what you get in fact it's scary) just my ten cents worth... oh and I agree with a previous poster that Flash is bollox! -= Ed -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Adrian - I couldn't agree more....
Never a more true word spoken N ! --- Neil Clark Senior Web Applications Engineer ColdFusion / Spectra / XML mcb digital [Allaire Premier Partner] Tel. +44 (0)20 8941 3232 Tel. +44 (0)20 8408 8131 [Direct] http://www.mcbdigital.com --- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
You round them up and I'll hold them down!! Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 419 4235 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge And there is someone who actually agrees with me too!!! That's rare, I've just been through major WYSIWYG withdrawal with a new recruit (fresh out of uni thinking that Front Page Extensions rule the universe!), a painful but necessary experience I'd quite like to round up everyone doing any web design courses at universities and colleges and labotomise them of any knowledge of WYSIWYG or anyother editor other than notepad until they've figured out that you can use transparent 1x1 pixel graphics to do just about anything with layout that you want ;o) Oh, I like your site too by the way Kath ;o) -= Ed -Original Message- From: Katherine Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge Thanks Edward.I couldn't have put it better myself! Coming from the 'learning html in notepad' background also, the thought of everything turning Dreamweaverish is a very scary prospect! Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 419 4235 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge I just hope that Macromedia keep developing code based editors and not try and get everyone using something like UltraDev (which IMHO is a pile of dog pooh...) I evaluated UltraDev and then it went the way of 99% of other editors I've used - Start - Settings - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs ;o) I guess I'm just of the old school that says you have to learn how to code an entire site in html using notepad and Paint Shop Pro before being unleashed on Dreamweaver... Let's hope that WYSIWYG doesn't become WYSINAWYGIFIS (what you see is not always what you get in fact it's scary) just my ten cents worth... oh and I agree with a previous poster that Flash is bollox! -= Ed -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hmmm NO more Allaire
Ya think Microsoft is sweating just a litlle bit? They will when the company that makes Windows bundles CF Server with it, and the company that makes SQL Server ships it free with Ultradev, and the company that makes Visual Basic and C# integrates them tightly with Ultradev too. Oh no wait a minute... ** Information in this email is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. You should not otherwise copy it, retransmit it or use or disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you for your co-operation. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hmmm NO more Allaire
nope, MS are probably laughing at the mo. MM and Allaire have great products but what about Mac's? MM are heavily geared for a Macs and CF is not exactly Apple orientated. MS make good products that work (and none of this Ant-Microsoft stuff) They have built up a product list of apps that is fearsome in any software companies book. N ! --- Neil Clark Senior Web Applications Engineer ColdFusion / Spectra / XML mcb digital [Allaire Premier Partner] Tel. +44 (0)20 8941 3232 Tel. +44 (0)20 8408 8131 [Direct] http://www.mcbdigital.com --- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
How will Macromedia resolve conflict of interest?
Their products previously supported both CF AND ASP. But now that they own CF..will their ASP support cease? And if not..how are they going to reconcile supporting a language that competes directly with their acquired asset, Cold Fusion -Gel www.carigamer.com Island Gaming At Its Best(TM) ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Conferance CD
Most of the "available" info from the conference can be found at www.allaire.com/conference Dave - Original Message - From: "Mak Wing Lok" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: Re: Conferance CD Just OT question, as i'm not from USA, how can i get a copy of the conference CD? can i download it from somewhere or anything like that? - Original Message - From: Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:09 AM Subject: OT: Conferance CD Just thought I'd mention that my conference CD came today. Last week everyone was asking about them. Looks like they're in the mail. Dave ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
I totally agrre with you both - exactly my thoughts... I in fact learnt html using dreamweaver, and then became involved in html work on CF sites... I became annoyed how that DW corrupted and complicated the page, and increasingly impressed with how simple and well thought out (though I realise its not perfect) CFstudio was to use, that I was using DW less and less and CFstudio more and more. I then moved away from HTML towards primarily CF programming, and DW went out the window... Last time I used DW was about 18months ago - and when I trialed UDev recently I was most disapointed... I suppose UDev does open up simple form/db driven apps to non-techies, but I'm not convinced that that is actually a good thing!!! cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge And there is someone who actually agrees with me too!!! That's rare, I've just been through major WYSIWYG withdrawal with a new recruit (fresh out of uni thinking that Front Page Extensions rule the universe!), a painful but necessary experience I'd quite like to round up everyone doing any web design courses at universities and colleges and labotomise them of any knowledge of WYSIWYG or anyother editor other than notepad until they've figured out that you can use transparent 1x1 pixel graphics to do just about anything with layout that you want ;o) Oh, I like your site too by the way Kath ;o) -= Ed -Original Message- From: Katherine Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge Thanks Edward.I couldn't have put it better myself! Coming from the 'learning html in notepad' background also, the thought of everything turning Dreamweaverish is a very scary prospect! Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 419 4235 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge I just hope that Macromedia keep developing code based editors and not try and get everyone using something like UltraDev (which IMHO is a pile of dog pooh...) I evaluated UltraDev and then it went the way of 99% of other editors I've used - Start - Settings - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs ;o) I guess I'm just of the old school that says you have to learn how to code an entire site in html using notepad and Paint Shop Pro before being unleashed on Dreamweaver... Let's hope that WYSIWYG doesn't become WYSINAWYGIFIS (what you see is not always what you get in fact it's scary) just my ten cents worth... oh and I agree with a previous poster that Flash is bollox! -= Ed -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Date Validation - help
Sorry, but what help did you require? You put a separate subject onto a reply of a completely different topic Was it Date help or CSS help? Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** -Original Message- From: Kim Ahlbrandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2001 22:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Date Validation - help Sapphire Technologies Ltd http://www.sapphire.net ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: wow...
I don't see much changing in the product line.. When Hyperion Software merged with Arbor Software, we didn't drop any applications we just began integrating them so that they worked well with each other. Each product has its own niche in the industry and if they want to continue and succeed they won't drop products like Studio, Server and HomeSite. It makes no sense. Mary ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: How will Macromedia resolve conflict of interest?
- Original Message - From: "Angél Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:20 PM Their products previously supported both CF AND ASP. But now that they own CF..will their ASP support cease? And if not..how are they going to reconcile supporting a language that competes directly with their acquired asset, Cold Fusion They have to support_both_in the same products and let the developer decide which middleware they prefer to use for an application. This isn't a religious crusade that these companies are embarking on - it's a proper joint commercial venture where they_have_to address the entire market and maximise revenues and profits for those which they answer to - their shareholders. I always use CF over ASP right now wherever possible - it isn't always possible. And then there is the new generation of ASP for M$.NET - Macromedia_have_to support that or fail. There have been occasions when I could have done with running ".asp" templates inside "cfm" templates. And then their is Jrun - assuming some people think there is a future in that somewhere. Macromedia should not look at CF, ASP or M$ in isolation - they should say - we are going to be the biggest and best network software development company out there bar none, and we will let the industry and our customers determine what we need to offer to achieve that objective. The ultimate winner will be us - the developers. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: How will Macromedia resolve conflict of interest?
On 1/17/01, Angél Stewart penned: Their products previously supported both CF AND ASP. But now that they own CF..will their ASP support cease? It says on their site they will still support it. Will Macromedia authoring software continue to support other application server solutions? We support JavaServer Pages(JSP), Active Server Pages (ASP), and ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) in Macromedia UltraDev today, and we intend to continue to support these platforms in the future. And if not..how are they going to reconcile supporting a language that competes directly with their acquired asset, Cold Fusion Probably by admitting to themselves that if they stop supporting those platforms they will go out of business. More from the FAQ: How does this combination affect the new company's relationships with IBM, BEA, Microsoft, Sun, Vignette, ATG, and BroadVision? We will continue to work closely with our partners to serve the needs of Web professionals. Our software will continue to support a wide range of industry leading servers and server scripting languages. We expect our customers will use our software, both authoring tools and servers, in conjunction with software from companies such as IBM, BEA, Microsoft, Sun, Vignette, ATG, BroadVision and others. -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Server remote-reboot-tools
There's a tag in the tag gallery called CFX_RestartMachine. I've never used it, and I'm not sure if it will do what you're looking for, but you might want to check it out. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 17, 2001 6:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools Hi, is there any (CF-)Server remote-reboot-tool out (HW or/and SW) ? OS is Win NT 4. Would be great to get ideas here. Uwe ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Allaire up 29% pre-market
Allaire has opened up 29% in the pre-NASDAQ market - quoted at 10 1/4. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: !!!macromedia allaire to merge!!!
Ahhh that would be TERRIBLE if Studio went away in favor of Ultradev, because I am not all that HAPPY with ultradev, i mean the CF modules i got that were written by allaire for Ultradev are half assed (lol i guess thats like studio then). MOst developers i talk wtih use Studio In Combination with Ultradev which i dont mind doing but ultradev has too many quirks that it does with your code for me to be happy using it exclusively. But if they could fix that Hay i would not mind using it =) ..02 Bill Wheatley Director of Development Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 - Original Message - From: "Adrian Cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:19 AM Subject: Re: !!!macromedia allaire to merge!!! - Original Message - From: "Jon Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:43 AM Why is there so much of this going around tonight? Allaire posted a loss for the 3rd (i believe) straight quarter. They would still be at 8 or below if Macromedia hadn't come along and no one last forever continually losing money. No matter how good their products are. And you have to look at the upside potential of the combined entity - not just today's math. Allaire with Macromedia can_really_go places - for example - if UltraDev becomed the main development environment for CF and Jrun that is a powerful combination for developers, not to mention that both companies get to share the benefit of sales of all products from the combined product range which they can cross-sell. Grinding the numbers today is pointless - see how they grind this time next year. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Hmmm NO more Allaire
Good point i am a little worried since we use the Linux Platform =) hopefully they dont drop it. Bill Wheatley Director of Development Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 - Original Message - From: "DeVoil, Nick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:02 AM Subject: RE: Hmmm NO more Allaire Ya think Microsoft is sweating just a litlle bit? They will when the company that makes Windows bundles CF Server with it, and the company that makes SQL Server ships it free with Ultradev, and the company that makes Visual Basic and C# integrates them tightly with Ultradev too. Oh no wait a minute... ** Information in this email is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. You should not otherwise copy it, retransmit it or use or disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you for your co-operation. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: random record
Thanks Mark that seems to have done the trick. JLB -Original Message- From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: random record There are many ways to do this. Here's one: !-- begin index_pick_a_partner_at_random.cfm -- !--- get the max record id from the table --- cfquery name="max" datasource="#session.dsn#" SELECT max (CONTACT_ID) as maxid FROM CONTACTS /cfquery !--- set a random number --- cfset randnum = RandRange(1,max.maxid) !--- Then select the a record where the recordid equal to or greater than the random number. --- cfquery name="random_record" datasource="#session.dsn#" SELECT MIN (CONTACT_ID) as random_record FROM contacts where CONTACT_ID = #randnum# /cfquery cfoutput query="random_record" #random_record# /cfoutput !-- end index_pick_a_partner_at_random.cfm -- ---mark -- Mark Warrick Phone: (714) 547-5386 Fax: (714) 972-2181 Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com ICQ: 346566 -- -Original Message- From: Jeremy Bunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: random record Can anyone point me in the right direction regarding how I would go about pulling a random record from a table every time a user visits the page. JLB ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
AMEN!!! Bill Wheatley Director of Development Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:56 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 10:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Neil Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:48 AM Who cares about Flash; it is total bollox (if you want animation use Director) - I think also people dont remember that Flash was not orginally an MM product. People don't want animation. Research has proven (as has my own experience in talking to users over the years), that people (especially those on slow links) don't want all of this animated, presentation frontend stuff. They rather want to get straight to the point, and without being slowed down by graphics and other non-relevant content. The strength of this merger is in database driven application development. Macromedia bought Drumbeat, which was very ASP oriented, and has now been absorbed into UltraDev. If we can end up with a product for CF/JRun, which does everything from Studio to UltraDev - that would be quite something. Of course it would need to do ASP(.net) as well for the whole market. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: random record
If your using a half-desent Database you can also do: SELECT top 1 * FROM Contacts ORDER BY rand() Some db's such as mysql doesn't like "top 1" but supports "limit 1", just can't remember that syntax right now Bjorn -Original Message- From: Jeremy Bunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: random record Thanks Mark that seems to have done the trick. JLB -Original Message- From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: random record There are many ways to do this. Here's one: !-- begin index_pick_a_partner_at_random.cfm -- !--- get the max record id from the table --- cfquery name="max" datasource="#session.dsn#" SELECT max (CONTACT_ID) as maxid FROM CONTACTS /cfquery !--- set a random number --- cfset randnum = RandRange(1,max.maxid) !--- Then select the a record where the recordid equal to or greater than the random number. --- cfquery name="random_record" datasource="#session.dsn#" SELECT MIN (CONTACT_ID) as random_record FROM contacts where CONTACT_ID = #randnum# /cfquery cfoutput query="random_record" #random_record# /cfoutput !-- end index_pick_a_partner_at_random.cfm -- ---mark -- Mark Warrick Phone: (714) 547-5386 Fax: (714) 972-2181 Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com ICQ: 346566 -- -Original Message- From: Jeremy Bunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: random record Can anyone point me in the right direction regarding how I would go about pulling a random record from a table every time a user visits the page. JLB ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
LOL i agree Bill Wheatley Director of Development Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 - Original Message - From: "Edward Chanter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:38 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge I just hope that Macromedia keep developing code based editors and not try and get everyone using something like UltraDev (which IMHO is a pile of dog pooh...) I evaluated UltraDev and then it went the way of 99% of other editors I've used - Start - Settings - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs ;o) I guess I'm just of the old school that says you have to learn how to code an entire site in html using notepad and Paint Shop Pro before being unleashed on Dreamweaver... Let's hope that WYSIWYG doesn't become WYSINAWYGIFIS (what you see is not always what you get in fact it's scary) just my ten cents worth... oh and I agree with a previous poster that Flash is bollox! -= Ed -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Daniel Lancelot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... But if UltraDev_includes_Studio functionality as a subset of it feature set - why not? I would prefer a single all encompassing developement product, which is everything for CF/JRun from a basic code editor, to full blown dynamic, database site creation enviroment, and with any, and all functions right there where I want them, in context - rather than a disparate bunch of seperate tools to do the same job less efficiently. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Allaire/MM merger
Sounds like everything is going to Java.. Rick ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
This intrigues me a bit... how can you get the CF server piece to interact with that flash form without submitting it? You'd still have to perform an HTTP post in order to get the filled in data to the CF server, which would in fact force a new page to load or a refresh of the current page. Unless you were using Generator, right? At 12:13 AM 1/17/01 -0700, you wrote: Ah, but You can use Flash without all the fancy things. You can create a simple page with a simple form that: looks exactly the same regardless of the browser, fonts, styles, etc. has antialiased characters in both the labels and in the fields, themselves improves the user interface outperforms a standard form (less bandwidth, faster response) The latter is very important for a "nice but fast presentation of useful data". Here's a simple example of what I mean: With CF you display a simple blank form to retrieve/edit an employee record: Employee_ID _ [Submit] Last_Name _ First_Name _ Phone _ . . . Now you enter an employee ID and hit submit. what normally happens is this: 1) the form fields are submitted to your CF program in Name/Value Pairs (e.g. Employee_ID=12345) 2) Your CF program gets the info from the form and does a query and retrieves the data. 3) Your CF program formats am entirely new copy of the form with the data fields filled in 4) You send this back to the browser 5) The browser's screen goes blank 6) The entire form and contents are redrawn Now, let's do the same thing with Flash. The blank form looks the same, except it is defined in flash and is probably smaller than the equivalent html form. When you enter an ID and submit, steps 1 and 2 are exactly the same But here is where things get a little different: The Flash file which submitted the data is looking for a response in the format of Name/Value pairs 3) Your program only formats the Name/Value pairs, not the entire form 4) The Name/Value pairs (only) are sent back to the browser Flash plugin 5) the screen does *not* go blank 6) The Values in the Name/Value pairs replace the contents of the form fields (the entire form is *not* redrawn) The reduction in bandwidth is significant. Response time is greatly improved. The visitor doesn't stare at a blank or partially redrawn screen Dick At 8:16 PM -0800 1/16/01, Allan Pichler wrote: Flash is all good for fancy presentations. But that's not where the majority of inet use is. It's still about making nice but fast presentation of useful data. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hmmm NO more Allaire
Just remember what MM did to Drumbeat (bought it, then replaced it and abandoned it's users). Part of me is very scared for CF. Don't get me wrong (I've been a MM user since the Aldus days), but MM does have a way to do what is best for them, not the companies they "merge" with or the developers the leave stranded. MM uses many of the same tactics MS uses. Paul Sizemore Finish Line 3308 N Mitthoeffer Rd Indianapolis, IN 46235 W: 317-899-1022 ext 3516 -Original Message- From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Hmmm NO more Allaire Good point i am a little worried since we use the Linux Platform =) hopefully they dont drop it. Bill Wheatley Director of Development Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 - Original Message - From: "DeVoil, Nick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:02 AM Subject: RE: Hmmm NO more Allaire Ya think Microsoft is sweating just a litlle bit? They will when the company that makes Windows bundles CF Server with it, and the company that makes SQL Server ships it free with Ultradev, and the company that makes Visual Basic and C# integrates them tightly with Ultradev too. Oh no wait a minute... ** Information in this email is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. You should not otherwise copy it, retransmit it or use or disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you for your co-operation. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
SQL Server export/import preserving diagrams
If you import/export databases between two SQL Server 7 boxes, you seem to always lose the diagrams. If you go in and recreate the diagram on the new machine, all the relationship information seems to have been preserved, however. Are the diagrams the only thing you lose? And is there any way to retain them whilst importing/exporting? Thanks -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
General CFTREE Question
Are there any pitfalls I need to watch out for if I choose to build an applcation using a CFTREE environment? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
Since Ultradev/Dreamweaver has always included a full copy of Homesite, my guess is that the Macromedia developers have always been aware of the need to edit code outside of the program and CF/Jrun Studio and Homesite will continue to be a separate program. Also Jeremy Allaire will be the CTO and I couldn't imagine him letting that happen. I just hope that they keep on with cfstudio as a separate product - I don't want to try to develop fusebox sites etc in ultradev... -Original Message- From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2001 10:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge - Original Message - From: "Neil Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:48 AM Who cares about Flash; it is total bollox (if you want animation use Director) - I think also people dont remember that Flash was not orginally an MM product. People don't want animation. Research has proven (as has my own experience in talking to users over the years), that people (especially those on slow links) don't want all of this animated, presentation frontend stuff. They rather want to get straight to the point, and without being slowed down by graphics and other non-relevant content. The strength of this merger is in database driven application development. Macromedia bought Drumbeat, which was very ASP oriented, and has now been absorbed into UltraDev. If we can end up with a product for CF/JRun, which does everything from Studio to UltraDev - that would be quite something. Of course it would need to do ASP(.net) as well for the whole market. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: big translation
2 MB isn't much. Buy more RAM for your server if you're concerned. We keep the user's current language in a Client variable. Session variables would be faster, but we are running on load balanced servers so we don't use Session variables. Be sure to always keep Client variables in a database, not in registry or cookies. The user's current language is set when the user logs in (we keep his preference), clicks on a flag image to manually switch, or registers and indicates a preferred language. At 11:33 AM 1/17/01 +0100, Javalenzuela wrote: Hi Peter, it's the more useful mail I've seen in weeks! ... Gracias! well, I have two questions for you ;). 1. You mention you have 16,000 values in the language table. May I worry about the size of my table ? I mean I might have 16,000 (rows) * 25 (bytes of length average each text string) * 5 (number of languages) = almost 2 MBytes of memory in a one application varible. is that an important matter ? 2. How you check the user's current language? do you see the URL to make that decision ? isn't an session variable ? both ? again... muchas gracias. ~Juandres - Original Message - From: Peter Theobald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: Re: big translation One of our sites, http://www.sponsorclick.com is translated into 5 languages so far (more coming). A quick synopsis of our method: We had to translate three things: text in the pages, values from the database, and images in the pages (some images have words in them). 1) Text: In Application.cfm we load a large structure into an Application variable (only has to load into memory ONCE) with all of the different text messages in each language we support. Each piece of text (we call a 'label') has a name and a value for each language. One example would be: Application.labels['en']['geninfo'] = "General Information" Application.labels['fr']['geninfo'] = "Informations générales" Application.labels['de']['geninfo'] = "Allgemeine Informationen" This structure is loaded from the database only once when the server starts up. (Of course we have admin pages to edit these values, and a facility to import Excel spreadsheets for bulk updates) We currently have over 16,000 values in this table in the database. Each time Application.cfm is run, we check the user's current language and assign a structure to the appropriate language set: variables.label = Application.labels[#language#] *note: this is making a POINTER to Application scope data in a local variable. Making a pointer is VERY fast. Copying the values would be much slower. This local variable, label, has to be locked as if it was an Application variable (because it really is). The only reason we didnt use Application.label is to save typing later on. We use automatic read locking on the Application scope to do this for all accesses to Application data. Now each instance on the page that needs to display text uses the variable: td b#label.geninfo# /b /td 2) Database values: All database values (mostly choices for select lists) come from a table that is generic enough to be used for all multilingual data: Table multilingual: list varchar(40) name varchar(40) order int value text= This is a LARGE TEXT field that can hold more than 256 characters, although most values are 100 characters 3) Images: All URLs on the site have the current language prepended to them, eg: /en/index.cfm, /fr/index.cfm, /de/index.cfm, etc. The Apache web server has mappings set up to remove the language for cfm and htm files so that /en/index.cfm is actually the file /index.cfm. Image URLs are simple relative URLs such as: 'IMG SRC=images/file.jgp'. The full URL would resolve to /en/images/file.jpg or /fr/images/file.jpg for example. The Apache web server also has mappings for /en/images = /languages/images/en/ and /fr/images = /languages/images/fr/ and so forth so the images will actually come from a language specific image directory At 02:10 PM 1/16/01 +0100, Javalenzuela wrote: Hi guys, I work in a Internet company (startup?) and we have +-600 CFM files (some with fusebox). Now, we are thinking to switch the website in 2+ languages (we are in Europe) but we don't know what is the best way to do this. I mean, something with few performance penalties and flexible enough to have several languages later (at beggining we only want 2 languages) some questions: - May I use BD to choose and retrieve all the text messages ? - May I enhance the pages with more intelligente in order to they can translate in each web request ? - what about to copy and translate each page in a off-line mode ? Anyone has some experience in this matter? Do you know links or URL about ? Any help is useful... (i want to make the rigth decision) thanks in advance, ~Juandres ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code
RE: General CFTREE Question
that users are going to have to run applets in order to use your app. ~Simon Simon Horwith Allaire Certified ColdFusion Instructor Certified ColdFusion Developer Fig Leaf Software 1400 16th St NW, # 220 Washington DC 20036 202.797.6570 (direct line) www.figleaf.com -Original Message- From: James Taavon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: General CFTREE Question Are there any pitfalls I need to watch out for if I choose to build an applcation using a CFTREE environment? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: wow...
Two great tastes that taste great together! - Original Message - From: Greg Wolfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: wow... Just wondering what everyone thinks about this. I think its gonna be a great thing and shows that CF will be around for a long long time. How bout you all? --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Aaron Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: wow... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Everyone seen this? :) Macromedia and Allaire to Merge http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?s=AOmTDYwsyTWFjcm9tT=marketsquot e99_news.ht -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOmTFpTp1Dv+56bwcEQInywCfVDE6WMqfPiNOTBKz1KSJVgK/KX8An2HS fOHTozSvLZoQ6Rif8sPzhuOA =XPsZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Hmmm NO more Allaire
- Original Message - From: "Paul Sizemore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:01 PM Just remember what MM did to Drumbeat (bought it, then replaced it and abandoned it's users). Part of me is very scared for CF. Don't get me wrong That's it!! It must be a conspiracy between M$ and MM to kill CF to keep ASP going g. Seriously though - Drumbeat lives inside UltraDev, and CF can't be compared. It is in the interests of MM to support CF, JRun and ASP to the max, ad infinitum. I do think all traces of Allaire (except those on the MM board) and it's product names will go in short order though. So what - it's the platform and development environment we need. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hmmm NO more Allaire
Well I will put my two cents in on this subject and then won't say anything else about it. The merger could be a bad thing, it could end up being a good thing, but I won't lose one moment of sleep because I am confident in my ability as a developer to roll with the times. If MM buries CF then I'll learn other languages that don't cost money to get. I'll broaden my horizons more, not that I am not trying to do that now, but we are developers. We shouldn't be held down by one platform or one programming language. CF wasn't going to be around forever, this deal just cemented that fact, so as a community we either roll with the punches or we stop programming. Robert Everland III Web Developer Dixon Ticonderoga ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
very easy to run DTS from CF. here is an e.g. cfquery name="DTSImport" datasource="#DSN#" master.dbo.xp_cmdshell 'DTSRun /~S 0x570181FD8A97DA72994BA30CD26A73E4C23626D16140CF0 /~U 0xF8141F8065D98248 /~P 0x23CAD6B1F4C4A4FBA499C068C0851BA3F2B320313D854C83 /~N 0x8633C5F800EA5FB74BA6756A1A7C499E0BECB133550E554589B918A33667AFE11A2A97320E 29F6FC8431DEF154CA67B ' /cfquery U can find the hexadecimal encrypted sting by scheduling the DTS then go in to the Job, under SQL SEM, Management, Jobs, Properties, Steps, Edit the step that runs your DTS it will have the command u need to run (the command will look like this DTSRun /~S 0x5701181D8A97DA72994BA30CD26A73E4C23626D16140CF0 /~N 0x5AEDF53AEB844805D84A0F5C167B98D34FDD2EBBCC75CAF55AFED3C357DA785DD056F835CB 5B36BB365A3B921227B99 /E ). From Rif -Original Message- From: Percy E Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2001 18:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion Anyone has any suggestions on how to run a DTS package from a coldfusion page? I found article# Q252987 on technet on how to do this using ASP, but I would rather implemented in ColdFusion. Thank you for any suggestions. Percy E Perez -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL Manager Yep, this will be taken care of soon. -Original Message- From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL Manager yep, I would NEVER want anyone connecting to the Master DB. I always keep my SQL Servers on the inside of the firewall allowing no access from the outside world - only from the cf server. Neil ! --- Neil Clark Senior Web Applications Engineer ColdFusion / Spectra / XML mcb digital [Allaire Premier Partner] Tel. +44 (0)20 8941 3232 Tel. +44 (0)20 8408 8131 [Direct] http://www.mcbdigital.com --- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools
With PC-Anywhere you can reboot your machine across the net. In a message dated 1/17/01 6:52:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, is there any (CF-)Server remote-reboot-tool out (HW or/and SW) ? OS is Win NT 4. Would be great to get ideas here. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: wow...
I acn see positives and negatives. Positives being if MM markets ColdFusion with Dreamweaver and UD as the app server of choice I think CF will grow and developers will be in greater demand. However if they drop the ball...well then I might have to crack open my ASP book and brush up my skills. I however am optimistic that this will be a good thing for all of us and that it will only bring good things. Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer pwb inc. integrated marketing communications 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 734.995.5000 (tel) 734.995.5002 (fax) www.pwb.com - Original Message - From: "Andrew Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Re: wow... Two great tastes that taste great together! - Original Message - From: Greg Wolfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: wow... Just wondering what everyone thinks about this. I think its gonna be a great thing and shows that CF will be around for a long long time. How bout you all? --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Aaron Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: wow... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Everyone seen this? :) Macromedia and Allaire to Merge http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?s=AOmTDYwsyTWFjcm9tT=marketsquot e99_news.ht -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOmTFpTp1Dv+56bwcEQInywCfVDE6WMqfPiNOTBKz1KSJVgK/KX8An2HS fOHTozSvLZoQ6Rif8sPzhuOA =XPsZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Hmmm NO more Allaire
I hope they keep some of the branding. somehow Macromedia ColdFusion just doesn't sound as good as Allaire ColdFusion. Oh well - Original Message - From: "Adrian Cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Hmmm NO more Allaire - Original Message - From: "Paul Sizemore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:01 PM Just remember what MM did to Drumbeat (bought it, then replaced it and abandoned it's users). Part of me is very scared for CF. Don't get me wrong That's it!! It must be a conspiracy between M$ and MM to kill CF to keep ASP going g. Seriously though - Drumbeat lives inside UltraDev, and CF can't be compared. It is in the interests of MM to support CF, JRun and ASP to the max, ad infinitum. I do think all traces of Allaire (except those on the MM board) and it's product names will go in short order though. So what - it's the platform and development environment we need. Adrian Cooper. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: wow...
LOL we would become Macromedia Allaire Certified Coldfusion Developers =) Bill Wheatley Director of Development AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer http://www.aeps.com ICQ: 417645 http://www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment to it is intended only to be read or used by the named addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistaken transmission to you. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or use any part of this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient. The RTA is not responsible for any unauthorized alterations to this e-mail or attachment to it -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: wow... I acn see positives and negatives. Positives being if MM markets ColdFusion with Dreamweaver and UD as the app server of choice I think CF will grow and developers will be in greater demand. However if they drop the ball...well then I might have to crack open my ASP book and brush up my skills. I however am optimistic that this will be a good thing for all of us and that it will only bring good things. Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer pwb inc. integrated marketing communications 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 734.995.5000 (tel) 734.995.5002 (fax) www.pwb.com - Original Message - From: "Andrew Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Re: wow... Two great tastes that taste great together! - Original Message - From: Greg Wolfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: wow... Just wondering what everyone thinks about this. I think its gonna be a great thing and shows that CF will be around for a long long time. How bout you all? --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Aaron Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: wow... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Everyone seen this? :) Macromedia and Allaire to Merge http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?s=AOmTDYwsyTWFjcm9tT=marketsquot e99_news.ht -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOmTFpTp1Dv+56bwcEQInywCfVDE6WMqfPiNOTBKz1KSJVgK/KX8An2HS fOHTozSvLZoQ6Rif8sPzhuOA =XPsZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: General CFTREE Question
Simon, That is true. CFTREE is just one option I am considering. I would actually like to incorporate Flash where applicable. This will be an in-house web app for our Intranet so I have more freedom when it comes to design. Simon Horwith wrote: that users are going to have to run applets in order to use your app. ~Simon Simon Horwith Allaire Certified ColdFusion Instructor Certified ColdFusion Developer Fig Leaf Software 1400 16th St NW, # 220 Washington DC 20036 202.797.6570 (direct line) www.figleaf.com -Original Message- From: James Taavon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: General CFTREE Question Are there any pitfalls I need to watch out for if I choose to build an applcation using a CFTREE environment? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools
I have seen power supplys that you can telnet into and toggle your power which in turn reboots the maching if it is completely frooze up. http://www.wsi.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:35 AM Subject: Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools With PC-Anywhere you can reboot your machine across the net. In a message dated 1/17/01 6:52:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, is there any (CF-)Server remote-reboot-tool out (HW or/and SW) ? OS is Win NT 4. Would be great to get ideas here. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Hmmm NO more Allaire
I remember when Borland and Corel (publisher of software developer tools and publisher of graphics software respectively - this sound familiar?) announced a merger. The Borland development community had a lot of the same concerns that I see expressed here. Then, after was all said and done the powers that be realized that the merger had no merit and today they are separate companies. Who knows what will happen before the 90 day waiting period has expired? Basically, even though curious, I'm taking the wait and see approach. There's a ton of speculation going on and whatever happens will happen. I would prefer to remain focused on where everything is today and hope for the best - although I think that it wouldn't be a bad thing to let MM know what the concerns are about allaire products. This merger could be a good thing (more developers, marketing, maybe lower prices), it could be bad (I don't think I've ever heard of a software merger that didn't create a few orphaned products) or it could be somewhere in between. And, no, I don't think MS is sweating a bit. They have plenty of good things happening at MS (Win2K, SOAP, .NET and even X-Box g) and they still have the anti-trust appeal to worry about... Howie - Original Message - From: "Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: Hmmm NO more Allaire This could be bad, but then again 2 great companies, with great products, could be disaster, then again it could be great, ... Ya think Microsoft is sweating just a litlle bit? Michael ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: How will Macromedia resolve conflict of interest?
Well it's not a problem for them now ... Macromedia support the passing of files back and forth between Photoshop and Fireworks. FW4 supports importing and exporting of .PSD files and maintaining all the layer and other information. It's simple to them.. they might want to get rid of Photoshop, but they know they're not going to. So if they can't sell Dreamweaver AND Fireworks, they'll be happy to sell Dreamweaver by itself. That's just good business. So, taking this same thinking, they'll want users to go with ColdFusion and Ultradev, but if they can't get both, they'll go for Ultradev and ASP rather than send them away to another vendor. Similarly, if users don't want Ultradev, they'll still be happy to supply ColdFusion to be developed with other tools. They won't see any conflict and nor do I. Ford would like you to buy only Ford cars and trucks for your company. But if you don't buy Ford cars, there's no conflict with them trying to get you to buy Ford trucks. Cheers, Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP WebWorks -Original Message- From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 11:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: How will Macromedia resolve conflict of interest? Their products previously supported both CF AND ASP. But now that they own CF..will their ASP support cease? And if not..how are they going to reconcile supporting a language that competes directly with their acquired asset, Cold Fusion -Gel www.carigamer.com Island Gaming At Its Best(TM) ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
Here's two stored procedures that will allow you to run a DTS package-it's
the method I use. You can call the SP from either CFQUERY or CFTOREDPROC
tags. The spExecuteDTS is the only SP you use, but the second SP is used by
spExecuteDTS.
-Dan
/**
Example:
CFSTOREDPROC PROCEDURE="spExecuteDTS" DATASOURCE="OPLIN2" DEBUG="NO"
CFPROCRESULT NAME="ImportData"
CFPROCPARAM TYPE="In" CFSQLTYPE="CF_SQL_VARCHAR" DBVARNAME="@Server"
VALUE="127.0.0.1" NULL="NO"
CFPROCPARAM TYPE="In" CFSQLTYPE="CF_SQL_VARCHAR" DBVARNAME="@PkgName"
VALUE="DTS__ImportOldPages" NULL="NO"
CFPROCPARAM TYPE="In" CFSQLTYPE="CF_SQL_VARCHAR"
DBVARNAME="@ServerPWD"
VALUE="***" NULL="NO"
/CFSTOREDPROC
**/
-- spExecuteDTS Stored Procedure
CREATE PROC spExecuteDTS
@Server varchar(255),
@PkgName varchar(255), -- Package Name (Defaults to most
recent version)
@ServerPWD varchar(255) = Null, -- Server Password if using SQL
Security
to load Package (UID is SUSER_NAME())
@IntSecurity bit = 0, -- 0 = SQL Server Security, 1 =
Integrated Security
@PkgPWD varchar(255) = '' -- Package Password
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
/*
Return Values
- 0 Successfull execution of Package
- 1 OLE Error
- 9 Failure of Package
*/
DECLARE @hr int, @ret int, @oPKG int, @Cmd varchar(1000)
-- Create a Pkg Object
EXEC @hr = sp_OACreate 'DTS.Package', @oPKG OUTPUT
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** Create Package object failed'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @oPKG, @hr
RETURN 1
END
-- Evaluate Security and Build LoadFromSQLServer Statement
IF @IntSecurity = 0
SET @Cmd = 'LoadFromSQLServer("' + @Server +'", "' + SUSER_SNAME() +
'",
"' + @ServerPWD + '", 0, "' + @PkgPWD + '", , , "' + @PkgName + '")'
ELSE
SET @Cmd = 'LoadFromSQLServer("' + @Server +'", "", "", 256, "' +
@PkgPWD
+ '", , , "' + @PkgName + '")'
EXEC @hr = sp_OAMethod @oPKG, @Cmd, NULL
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** LoadFromSQLServer failed'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @oPKG , @hr
RETURN 1
END
-- Execute Pkg
EXEC @hr = sp_OAMethod @oPKG, 'Execute'
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** Execute failed'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @oPKG , @hr
RETURN 1
END
-- Check Pkg Errors
EXEC @ret=spDisplayPkgErrors @oPKG
-- Unitialize the Pkg
EXEC @hr = sp_OAMethod @oPKG, 'UnInitialize'
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** UnInitialize failed'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @oPKG , @hr
RETURN 1
END
-- Clean Up
EXEC @hr = sp_OADestroy @oPKG
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @oPKG , @hr
RETURN 1
END
RETURN @ret
-- spDisplayPKGErrors Stored Procedure
CREATE PROC spDisplayPKGErrors
@oPkg As integer
AS
SET NOCOUNT ON
DECLARE @StepCount int
DECLARE @Steps int
DECLARE @Step int
DECLARE @StepResult int
DECLARE @oPkgResult int
DECLARE @hr int
DECLARE @StepName varchar(255)
DECLARE @StepDescription varchar(255)
IF OBJECT_ID('tempdb..#PkgResult') IS NOT NULL
DROP TABLE #PkgResult
CREATE TABLE #PkgResult
(
StepName varchar(255) NOT NULL,
StepDescription varchar(255) NOT NULL,
Result bit NOT NULL
)
SELECT @oPkgResult = 0
EXEC @hr = sp_OAGetProperty @oPkg, 'Steps', @Steps OUTPUT
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** Unable to get steps'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @oPkg , @hr
RETURN 1
END
EXEC @hr = sp_OAGetProperty @Steps, 'Count', @StepCount OUTPUT
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** Unable to get number of steps'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @Steps , @hr
RETURN 1
END
WHILE @StepCount 0
BEGIN
EXEC @hr = sp_OAGetProperty @Steps, 'Item', @Step OUTPUT, @StepCount
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** Unable to get step'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @Steps , @hr
RETURN 1
END
EXEC @hr = sp_OAGetProperty @Step, 'ExecutionResult', @StepResult
OUTPUT
IF @hr 0
BEGIN
PRINT '*** Unable to get ExecutionResult'
EXEC sp_displayoaerrorinfo @Step , @hr
RETURN 1
END
EXEC @hr = sp_OAGetProperty @Step, 'Name', @StepName OUTPUT
IF @hr
RE: SQL Server export/import preserving diagrams
You can get a script to export diagrams from http://www.swynk.com/sqlhome/7library.asp Justin -Original Message- From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SQL Server export/import preserving diagrams If you import/export databases between two SQL Server 7 boxes, you seem to always lose the diagrams. If you go in and recreate the diagram on the new machine, all the relationship information seems to have been preserved, however. Are the diagrams the only thing you lose? And is there any way to retain them whilst importing/exporting? Thanks -- Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netshopper UK Ltd Advanced Web Solutions Services http://www.netshopperuk.com/ Telephone +44 (01744) 648650 Fax +44 (01744) 648651 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire/MM merger
I can't start my morning without a ciup... g - Original Message - From: "Richard L Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: Allaire/MM merger Sounds like everything is going to Java.. Rick ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Conditional loops
I guess I should've been more clear about what I want to do.
CFIF isDefined("queryname")
CFLOOP query="Queryname"
CFELSE
CFLOOP index="x" list="listname"
/CFIF
I have gotten a suggestion to rewrite it as
CFIF isDefined("queryname")
CFSET count=queryname.recordcount
CFELSE
CFSET count=#ListLen(listname)#
/CFIF
CFLOOP from="0" to="#count#"
/cfloop
-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Conditional loops
why don't you just use the CONDITION attribute of CFLOOP?
-Original Message-
From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Conditional loops
On 1/16/01, Ruslan Sivak penned:
Is there a way to have conditional loops such as
CFIF something
CFLOOP parameters1
CFELSE
CFLOOP parameters2
/CFIF
/CFLOOP
Nope. You'll have to put the opening and closing loop tags either
both inside each cfif, cfelse block, or put them outside the entire
cfif.
CFIF this IS "that"
cfloop query="example1"
#variable#
/cfloop
CFELSE
cfloop query="example2"
#variable#
/cfloop
/CFIF
Or
cfloop query="example1"
CFIF this IS "that"
#variable1#
CFELSE
#variable2#
/CFIF
/cfloop
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FW: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
-Original Message-
From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
options:
use cfexeccute and rundts
use xp_cmdshell
create a job run it
or you can run that code using cfobject
as per the MS example
cfset DTSReposFlag_Default = 0
cfset DTSReposFlag_UseTrustedConnection = 256
CFOBJECT ACTION="Create"TYPE="COM"CLASS=DTS.Package
NAME="oPackage"
cfset oPackage.LoadFromSQLServer
('servername','','',256,'','','','MyPackage','')
cfset oPackage.Execute()
Justin
-Original Message-
From: Percy E Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
Anyone has any suggestions on how to run a DTS package from a coldfusion
page?
I found article# Q252987 on technet on how to do this using ASP, but I
would rather implemented in ColdFusion. Thank you for any suggestions.
Percy E Perez
-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Manager
Yep, this will be taken care of soon.
-Original Message-
From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Manager
yep, I would NEVER want anyone connecting to the Master DB.
I always keep
my SQL Servers on the inside of the firewall allowing no
access from the
outside world - only from the cf server.
Neil
! ---
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Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools
I think you mean www.wti.com Regards, Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. www.CoolFusion.com 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server Get your free copy of iMS POST-SE Server from CoolFusion! - Original Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools I have seen power supplys that you can telnet into and toggle your power which in turn reboots the maching if it is completely frooze up. http://www.wsi.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Short Circuit Evaluation
I have had to write this kind of code over and over, and was wondering if
there is a better way like in c++, where it does lazy evaluation.
This is what I want:
CFIF isDefined("somevar") AND somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
Of course this fails, since if the variable is not defined, CF stil checks
the second condition. In languages like C++, it did lazy evaluation, so if
the first condition was false, it didn't bother checking the second
condition. This let people write things like
open(FILE,"file") || die "Can't open file";
So in CF I have to rewrite my above IF statement as 2 statements
CFIF isDefined("somevar")
CFIF somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
/CFIF
Is there a better way?
Ruslan Sivak
Technologist
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RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah.. ever tried: bookmarking a specific element of a .swf? printing a .swf? getting stats for which parts of your .swf was viewed? sending a user to a specific part of your .swf (ie: send this to a friend..?) and the point of all points... how all people find your pages: can a search engine index content a .swf? point: You can't. I'm with you, I think Flash can do some good things, but remember all the things it can't do Flash: 99% Bad http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer MINDSEYE, Inc. phn617.350.0339 fax617.350.8884 icq66172567 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Window 95 Log?
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duplicating inserts
Anyone know of a way to stop records from being reinserted into a database when a user hits the back button? I have a page that checks for duplications in a database, and if it finds no duplicate, then it will insert it into the database. Problem is, when a user hits the back button, it inserts the record again. Its not finding duplicates more than likey because the query is being cached so it doesnt know to look again. But how can I get it to either do nothing including not inserting the record a second time or atleast recheck again to see if its a duplicate record? I can't take caching off this machine as these are some monster queries and performance is greatly improved by caching queries. Thanks *** Misty Woodward ODS Decision Support tel: 913.315.6583 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Short Circuit Evaluation
Last time I checked, CF _did_ have short circuit eval. Maybe you have a
slight typo in your code? This feature has been around since 4.01 I believe.
(Maybe earlier, someone feel free to correct me.)
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-Original Message-
From: Ruslan Sivak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Short Circuit Evaluation
I have had to write this kind of code over and over, and was wondering if
there is a better way like in c++, where it does lazy evaluation.
This is what I want:
CFIF isDefined("somevar") AND somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
Of course this fails, since if the variable is not defined, CF stil checks
the second condition. In languages like C++, it did lazy
evaluation, so if
the first condition was false, it didn't bother checking the second
condition. This let people write things like
open(FILE,"file") || die "Can't open file";
So in CF I have to rewrite my above IF statement as 2 statements
CFIF isDefined("somevar")
CFIF somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
/CFIF
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Date problem
Apologies if this has already been covered. I'm having a general problem with date formats, specifically if a form field is submitted with a 2-digit year then the subsequent template receives it with the day and year digits switched round. ie 17/01/01 would become 01/01/2017 This doesn't happen if the form field contains a 4-digit year ie 17/01/2001, but as I'm using cfinput validation it doesn't actually force the user to use 4 digits. At present I don't know whether this is a localised setting issue or if it's cold fusion or what. Anyone else come across this? TIA Neil Robinson ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFIndex Summary Showing Comments
I've been all over the place on the lists trying to figure out how to solve this and am wits end. I've done a number of collections using Verity and always have the same gripe. I believe that when I set up the index, it requires that I use a local path (e.g. "c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mysite") instead of a url for indexing. This means that the engine is indexing the cfml templates instead of the client-side response (without all the cfml code). The #summary# field returns the cfml code as well as cfml comments. Is there a way for me to index from the client's perspective using the verity tool? Regards, Neil ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Short Circuit Evaluation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ruslan, Actually, CF 4.01 and above do support Short Circuit evaluation... maybe you should upgrade. Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer MINDSEYE, Inc. phn617.350.0339 fax617.350.8884 icq66172567 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
Default Syntax to Create DTS Object:
cfobject type="COM" name="myObjectName" class="DTS.Package"
action="CREATE"
There are 3 primary locations DTS packages are generally loaded from: from
SQL Server, from Storage File, or from repository. There are 3 different
primary methods that can be executed, one for each of these DTS locations.
LoadFromSQLServer Syntax:
ObjectName.LoadFromSQLServer("ServerName",
"ServerUserName",
"ServerPassword",
"Flags",
"PackagePassword",
"PackageGuid",
"PackageVersionGuid",
"PackageName",
"pVarPersistStgOfHost")
NOTE: if you want to retrieve the PackageGuid, PackageVersionGuid,
PackageName from the database, run the sp_enum_dtspackages system stored
procedure.
it returns the following variables: name, id, versionid, description,
createdate, owner, size, packagedata, isowner
LoadFromStorageFile Syntax:
ObjectName.LoadFromStorageFile("UNCFile",
"Password",
"PackageID",
"VersionID",
"Name",
"pVarPersistStgOfHost")
LoadFromRepository Syntax:
ObjectName.LoadFromRepository("RepositoryServerName",
"RepositoryDatabaseName",
"RepositoryUserName,
"RepositoryUserPassword,
"PackageID,
"VersionID,
"PackageName,
"Flags",
"pVarPersistStgOfHost")
This is sample code to execute a (SQLServer) DTS from ColdFusion ("objDTS"
is the Object I created, server is "shorwith", username is "sa" with no
password, "test" is the name of the DTS):
CFTRY
cfobject type="COM" name="objDTS" class="DTS.Package"
action="CREATE"
cfcatch type="Object"
CFSET error_message = "The DTS Package Object Could Not Be
Created"
/cfcatch
/CFTRY
CFTRY
CFSET r =
objDTS.LoadfromSQLServer("SHORWITH","sa","",0,"","","","test","")
CFCATCH
CFSET error_message = "The DTS Package Could Not Be Loaded
From the SQL Server at this time."
/cfcatch
/CFTRY
CFIF isDefined("error_message")
cfoutput #error_message# /cfoutput
/cfif
CFSET p= objDTS.Execute()
~Simon
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Certified ColdFusion Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Rif Kiamil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
very easy to run DTS from CF.
here is an e.g.
cfquery name="DTSImport" datasource="#DSN#"
master.dbo.xp_cmdshell 'DTSRun /~S
0x570181FD8A97DA72994BA30CD26A73E4C23626D16140CF0 /~U 0xF8141F8065D98248 /~P
0x23CAD6B1F4C4A4FBA499C068C0851BA3F2B320313D854C83 /~N
0x8633C5F800EA5FB74BA6756A1A7C499E0BECB133550E554589B918A33667AFE11A2A97320E
29F6FC8431DEF154CA67B '
/cfquery
U can find the hexadecimal encrypted sting by scheduling the DTS then go in
to the Job, under SQL SEM, Management, Jobs, Properties, Steps, Edit the
step that runs your DTS it will have the command u need to run (the command
will look like this DTSRun /~S
0x5701181D8A97DA72994BA30CD26A73E4C23626D16140CF0 /~N
0x5AEDF53AEB844805D84A0F5C167B98D34FDD2EBBCC75CAF55AFED3C357DA785DD056F835CB
5B36BB365A3B921227B99 /E ).
From Rif
-Original Message-
From: Percy E Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 January 2001 18:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Running a MS SQL Server DTS Package from ColdFusion
Anyone has any suggestions on how to run a DTS package from a coldfusion
page?
I found article# Q252987 on technet on how to do this using ASP, but I
would rather implemented in ColdFusion. Thank you for any suggestions.
Percy E Perez
-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Manager
Yep, this will be taken care of soon.
-Original Message-
From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Manager
yep, I would NEVER want anyone connecting to the Master DB.
I always keep
my SQL Servers on the inside of the firewall allowing no
access from the
outside world - only from the cf server.
Neil
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RE: OT: SQL Question
That was it! Thank you!
-Original Message-
From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: SQL Question
On 1/16/01, Gieseman, Athelene penned:
cfquery datasource="IS_Budget" name="SaveInvoiceQry"
INSERT X_Invoices (Vendor, Inv_GL, Inv_City, Inv_Dept, Inv_Date,
Inv_No, Inv_Desc, ApprovedDate, Notes, Inv_Amount)
values ('#Vendor#', '#Inv_GL#', '#Inv_City#', '#Inv_Dept#',
'#Inv_Date#', '#Inv_No#', '#Inv_Desc#', '#ApprovedDate#', '#Notes#',
#Inv_Amount#)
/cfquery
I'm sure I'm not seeing something obvious. But it looks to me like there
are 10 items for each of the values and table columns. Can anyone see what
I'm not?
One thing to look for is columns that don't have single quotes around
them. If you input an #Inv_Amount# with a comma in it, like 1,000.00,
it will think that is 2 fields, because of the comma. Try using:
#rereplace(Inv_Amount, "[^0-9\.]+", "", "ALL")#
Or even just:
#replace(Inv_Amount, ",", "", "ALL")#
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Storing/Encrypting Credit Cards
We need to store credit cards in a certain situation. I realize that this is recommended against. That being said, I have searched through the archives, and I haven't found any solutions that are great. The best I found was to use a solid ( or "pretty good" ;-) encryption for the credit card numbers in the database, and then force the hacker to figure out how CF is unencrypting the numbers. The other suggestions were ways to further obfuscate this process, but none were "100%" solutions. An alternate solution I am considering is to store part of the credit card in our database, and part in a user cookie, both encrypted of course. We already have a cookie requirement in the case where we need to store credit cards, so that is not a problem. Also, I don't think that the users will mind only being able to access their credit cards from the machine from which they were saved. Is anybody utilizing this method? Matt ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFTRANSACTION - proper usage
No what your looking for is this: CFTRANSACTION ACTION="BEGIN" CFTRY !--- All your insert queries here --- CFCATCH TYPE="Database" CFTRANSACTION ACTION="ROLLBACK"/ /CFCATCH CFCATCH TYPE="Any" CFTRANSACTION ACTION="ROLLBACK"/ /CFCATCH /CFTRY /CFTRANSACTION Sincerely, Mike Lakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.snazzydev.com -- Coding for the future. Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:08:39 -0500 From: "Marius Milosav" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CFTRANSACTION - proper usage Message-ID: 022901c07ff8$1e334f70$[EMAIL PROTECTED] cftransaction cfquery name="insert1" datasource="#dsn#" sql statement1 /cfquery cfquery name="insert2" datasource="#dsn#" sql statement2 /cfquery cfquery name="insert3" datasource="#dsn#" sql statement3 /cfquery /cftransaction Marius Milosav www.scorpiosoft.com It's not about technology, it's about people. Virtual Help Desk Demo (VHD) www.scorpiosoft.com/vhd/login.cfm - Original Message - From: "Bosky, Dave" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: CFTRANSACTION - proper usage I have three queries that insert information, I need to be sure that all three inserts take place, if not they are discarded. How would I use cftransaction to accomplish this task? Thanks, Dave ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Short Circuit Evaluation
Ruslan,
Every since CF4.01, CF has supported short-circuit logic. So the you're
first example *does* work in CF4.01+.
-Dan
-Original Message-
From: Ruslan Sivak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Short Circuit Evaluation
I have had to write this kind of code over and over, and was wondering if
there is a better way like in c++, where it does lazy evaluation.
This is what I want:
CFIF isDefined("somevar") AND somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
Of course this fails, since if the variable is not defined, CF stil checks
the second condition. In languages like C++, it did lazy evaluation, so if
the first condition was false, it didn't bother checking the second
condition. This let people write things like
open(FILE,"file") || die "Can't open file";
So in CF I have to rewrite my above IF statement as 2 statements
CFIF isDefined("somevar")
CFIF somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
/CFIF
Is there a better way?
Ruslan Sivak
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RE: Slightly OT: CSS Help Needed!
This should help you do the trick is Ben's examples havent already. http://www.snazzydev.com/css/tut/position/ If that doesnt help then feel free to contact me directly. Sincerely, Mike Lakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.snazzydev.com -- Coding for the future. Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:56:55 -0500 From: "Benjamin S. Rogers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Slightly OT: CSS Help Needed! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm trying to design drop-down menus using CSS. If I knew exactly where the menus were to appear, it would be easy using absolute positioning and the visibility property. There are a lot of really good canned scripts out there. One of those will probably do everything your looking to do. Don't underestimate the amount of time you will spend debugging DHTML in the different browsers. Unfortunately, the menus must be placed relative to a table. The table is centered on the page, and it's width isn't always the same. The menus must be aligned with this table. When I use relative positioning, the menu appears in the right place, but it is positioned inline with the rest of the page. Rather than overlapping with the elements below it, it simply pushes them lower and makes room for itself. That is how relative positioning works. It appears logically in the context of where it is coded. Fixed positioning would take the menus out of the context in which they are coded and make the menus relative to the corner of the browser. However, this is not exactly what you are looking to do. You will want to make a layer within your table that is positioned relatively. This layer should be where you want the menus to appear. Within this layer, you will create separate layers for each of your menus and give them an absolute position. Declaring the position as absolute has a similar effect to fixed, however the element is positioned relative to the top left corner of the next layer up. In the absence of another layer, they will appear positioned against the top left corner of the browser window. I can't seem to get the menu to float "above" the picture below it. I tried the z-index property to no avail. You need to declare absolute or fixed positioning to take the menu out of the logical context in which the page was coded. For a sample of my problem (and a stunning picture of some cable tv stuff), visit http://it.wm.edu/network/csshelp.htm. Couldn't get to the page. Please let me know if this is possible! Definitely possible. Have a look around the Internet and you will see that there are many people doing this. Thanks! No problem. :) Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net Voice: (508) 240-0051 Fax: (508) 240-0057 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Short Circuit Evaluation
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Hey Ruslan,
Sure... what you mentioned works for me all the time...
cfif IsDefined("somevar") AND somevar EQ "something"
Do this
cfelse
Do this
/cfif
However, the loop thing you mentioned probably wouldn't work... you
should do as others suggested and set the loop count outside of the
actual cfloop...
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RE: Slightly OT: CSS Help Needed!
Error handling within Cold Fusion uses lil' to no I/O overhead, this includes CFTRY/CATCH blocks. If your more interested on this other things in CF error handling, everything you ever wanted to know is right here: http://www.snazzydev.com/cf/tut/error_system/ Sincerely, Mike Lakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.snazzydev.com -- Coding for the future. Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:10:17 -0600 From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cftry/cfcatch question Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have heard that cftry/cfcatch can add alot of overhead to page processing. Is this ture? Thanks, Clint ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools
Hi Kevin, this sounds interesting. I need a reboot-tool what you can take if there is only TCP-IP connectivity and services are down. This tool would meet the needs. But the link you sent is one from a wheather-forecast web-site. Was it supposed to be the right one ? Uwe - Original Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools I have seen power supplys that you can telnet into and toggle your power which in turn reboots the maching if it is completely frooze up. http://www.wsi.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:35 AM Subject: Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools With PC-Anywhere you can reboot your machine across the net. In a message dated 1/17/01 6:52:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, is there any (CF-)Server remote-reboot-tool out (HW or/and SW) ? OS is Win NT 4. Would be great to get ideas here. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: cfx_cybercash is gone???
No problem. I never knew ONCR called thier tag CFX_CyberCash. :) Russel Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you. -Original Message- From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 15:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfx_cybercash is gone??? My apologies, I did not mean to mislead anyone. If I remember correctly, I think ONCR did rename their tag from CFX_CyberCash to CFX_ONCR_CyberCash awhile back. I didn't know Allaire had one as well. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net Voice: (508) 240-0051 Fax: (508) 240-0057 -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfx_cybercash is gone??? Benjamin, That is actually a different tag. The ONCR tag is by far superior to the one Allaire wrote (CFX_CyberCash), but the Allaire tag's price is right, free. We use the ONCR tag with no problems. However, we used the free tag for all of our initial development. Unforetunately, all I have anymore is the DLL, none of the documentation. Sorry. Russel Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you. -Original Message- From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfx_cybercash is gone??? It was renamed CFX_ONCR_Cybercash a couple years ago: http://www.cfxoncrcybercash.com/ The company's site is at http://www.oncr.com. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net Voice: (508) 240-0051 Fax: (508) 240-0057 -Original Message- From: Christopher Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfx_cybercash is gone??? hey everyone.. i cant seem to find allaire's cfx_cybercash tag (the free one) in the tag gallery? anyone have it or know where i can get it? thnx -chris ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools
Thank you, I have it. The problem is, that sometimes this and other services die. What would you do in those cases, if the provider doesn't have a remote-reboot service ? Uwe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:35 PM Subject: Re: OT: Server remote-reboot-tools With PC-Anywhere you can reboot your machine across the net. In a message dated 1/17/01 6:52:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, is there any (CF-)Server remote-reboot-tool out (HW or/and SW) ? OS is Win NT 4. Would be great to get ideas here. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: duplicating inserts
have the action page of your form do the insert, then use CFLOCATION to send the user to the result page. have not HTML/other markup in your action page. this effectively removes the action page from the user's "back" history. chris olive, cio cresco technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crescotech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: duplicating inserts Anyone know of a way to stop records from being reinserted into a database when a user hits the back button? I have a page that checks for duplications in a database, and if it finds no duplicate, then it will insert it into the database. Problem is, when a user hits the back button, it inserts the record again. Its not finding duplicates more than likey because the query is being cached so it doesnt know to look again. But how can I get it to either do nothing including not inserting the record a second time or atleast recheck again to see if its a duplicate record? I can't take caching off this machine as these are some monster queries and performance is greatly improved by caching queries. Thanks *** Misty Woodward ODS Decision Support tel: 913.315.6583 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Window 95 Log?
I don't believe Windows 95 stores this information in any log file. The best I can tell you is that the username of the last logged in user is stored in the registry. ~Simon Simon Horwith Allaire Certified ColdFusion Instructor Certified ColdFusion Developer Fig Leaf Software 1400 16th St NW, # 220 Washington DC 20036 202.797.6570 (direct line) www.figleaf.com -Original Message- From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Window 95 Log? What Log file will tell me if someone has logged into a windows 95 computer? What other then a cmos password can protect a windows? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
Joe
I don't understand the internals but here's what happens:
This isn't an html form, it is a Flash equivalent.
You don't submit the form, Flash does, with a JavaScript-like script
associated with, say a button event (similar to an onClick):
on (release) {
loadVariablesNum ("http://www.mysite.com/myForm.cfm", 0, "POST");
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RE: Putting a temporary hold on a quantity
You could add a field to the shopping cart table that is the date of the purchase and have a scheduled housekeeping return those items to inventory (cancel the records in the shopping cart and adjust the inventory) after 24 hours (based upon the time they were added to the cart). It should be pretty easy. Russel Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you. -Original Message- From: t nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 18:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Putting a temporary hold on a quantity Hi All, I have a small dilemma on my hands. I am trying to figure out a way to place a temporary hold on a quantity in my database. Here's the scenario: I am in the process of finishing up an e-commerce site. like every other commerce site, users can go through items and place them into a shopping cart of sorts until they are ready to check out. here's the problem: let's say that a customer decides to bail out on the transaction at the last minute.(of course i'll have a button which will allow them to cancel their order) but let's say the persons pc crashes on them before they can finish their order or their phone service gets shut off or the world comes to an end (you get the picture). barring the last scenario, i would hate for another user to lose out on that product simply because it's out of the system in a manner of speaking. my question is basically this: is there a way for me to temporarily set the a fore mentioned quantity aside and then after a set time has expired have it reintroduced into my quantity field? thanks in advance, nelson ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Window 95 Log?
Very little. Windows 95 is a very insecure system; you can get into the operating system without "logging on". (Is this box on a domain? You might be able to get some clues from the domain controller.) To answer your second question, upgrading to NT Workstation or 2000 Professional. -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Stanford wrote: What Log file will tell me if someone has logged into a windows 95 computer? What other then a cmos password can protect a windows? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
Also check out Macromedia - Allaire Merger topic at Allaire Forums: http://forums.allaire.com/DevConf/Thread.cfm?Thread_ID=212322mc=39 Some very good points there, especially by Rob Munn and Matt Robertson. Also Jeremy Allaire's 'official' statement: http://forums.allaire.com/DevConf/Thread.cfm?Thread_ID=212384mc=1 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Why I'm a little worried about it being MM taking over
I have a few observations that allay my fears some. Since early on in the history of the 2 companies, Macromedia and Allaire have had a very close relationship. In 1998, Allaire and Macromedia were co-sponsors of the Builder.com Live conference in New Orleans. Now that Macromedia needs a server component for thier multimedia web efforts, they turn to Allaire. I feel that Cold Fusion will continue on the current development path for 12 months or so. Then we should see a combining of the CF application server with multimedia servers. It will be a single turn-key solution for anyone setting up a web site. CF provides the interface to the backend and the Macromedia the streaming audio, video, etc. Russel Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you. -Original Message- From: Stephen R. Cassady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 03:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Why I'm a little worried about it being MM taking over OK - while I'm happy that CF may survive (as a developer my strength is CF not ASP though I now have second thoughts) - my main worry is in my knowledge and experience of MacroMedia: I purchased Drumbeat 2000 (Drumbeat is the company that MM bought to develop UltraDev). Drumbeat was a visual tool that incorporated database access - though it's visual side lacked a lot of features. I never upgraded because it took so long for MM to release their UltraDev Version. So - time to market after company purchase. This worry extends to CF 5.0/6.0 with the Java Engine. I'm familiar with their FreeHand product, and have seen (what I believe) slow development of a product even in light of strong competition (Corel Draw and Adobe Illustrator), with a tendency to ignore the development community. I have never seen a product "pony show" so viciously ripped apart as they were up here in Calgary a while back. There was real venom from a lack of corporate response. I looked at .asp and went .cfm instead because of Unix support. Macromedia is inherently not Unix, UNLESS it's a Mac OSX port to be done. We are taking people who love their Macs. (I love Macs too - just server based, hell, DATABASE web work is generally Unix or NT, some J2EE). I own DreamWeaver and Studio. I use Studio. Enough said. Amazing Allaire off-line support and customer retention: I received a t-shirt because they rescheduled an online presentation. They are one of the few company's that has gone out of it's way to maintain my interest and support as a developer. Finally: Macromedia is primarily a graphics-platform company, and recently really only competed with Adobe. This is their first move into something much more founded in the structure of communication - not just the look and feel. I have some concern if the culture can bend to give the Allaire staff a sense of home. I hope most of the Allaire staff join Macromedia. Sniff! Hey - what happens to Ben Forta? (Ok so maybe from those last comments I'm just knee-jerking). But I guess I've staked close to 2 years of hardcore development on CF (with experimentation and some development in other areas), and my belief in MacroMedia as a corporate entity that can enter the server/code side of the market (because Allaire really isn't Studio - it's the underlying code base in Cold Fusion), is troubled. Can a graphics company successfully incorporate a hard-code set of engineers, and maket/maitain/grow a server product successfully? Well, I hope - and I'll try to give a benefit of the doubt. :-) Stephen Cassady President, Ububik new media [EMAIL PROTECTED] 403.271.0468 http://www.ububik.com http://www.tallylist.com http://www.spankmag.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Short Circuit Evaluation
At 10:12 1/17/01 -0500, you wrote:
I have had to write this kind of code over and over, and was wondering if
there is a better way like in c++, where it does lazy evaluation.
This is what I want:
CFIF isDefined("somevar") AND somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
I think this should work? I think I've used this before... Or maybe I'm
just nuts. I think you have to be on 4.5, 4.0 won't do it.
R
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Re: WDDX problem
I had something similar last night, working on a project... Before you do your CFWDDX tag, inside a CFOUTPUT area, do #HTMLEditFormat(yourpacket)# where 'yourpacket' is the variable holding the WDDX packet. See if it spits out the same way as what you cut/pasted below, or if it's coming up short/trunicated. My issue - I store WDDX packets in database fields. The query that would pull out these packets (and other stuff) worked fine BEFORE I put a "GROUP BY" on the query - was adding a little bit of complexity. Since you have to list out all the fields you're selecting in the GROUP BY statement, you have to list the field holding the packet. For some reason, this was trunicating the packet in a big way. I ended up removing the packet db field from the query, and whenever I'm on my double group loop in CFOUTPUT, I do a small query just to grab the packet by itself, and it works fine. Hope that helps. --Scott - Original Message - From: "Mak Wing Lok" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: WDDX problem wddxPacket version='0.9'header/datarecordset rowCount='3' fieldNames='batchno,Qty,expiryDate,ETA,CA,LU'field name='batchno'stringa222/stringstringa123/stringstringa333/strin g/fieldfield name='Qty'string1221/stringstring212121/stringstring2112/string /fieldfield name='expiryDate'string1/16/2001/stringstring1/16/2001/stringstrin g1/16/2001/string/fieldfield name='ETA'string1/16/2001/stringstring1/16/2001/stringstring1/16/ 2001/string/fieldfield name='CA'stringYes/stringstringYes/stringstringYes/string/fiel dfield name='LU'stringYes/stringstringYes/stringstringYes/string/fiel d/recordset/data/wddxPacket Is there anything wrong with this WDDX packet? i manage to WDDX2CFML it using CFWDDX, but then when i tried to insert the data into a database it failed with the following error message : XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1, column 21, buffer offset 21) The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFWDDX), occupying document position (13:1) to (13:71). I'm using the cfoutput tag to retrieve the data, should i used another method? any help would be very much appreciate. mak wl ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge
FutureSplash! *laugh* I remember when that came out, my buddy and I both looked at it and thought "this is gonna kill Shockwave"... I guess MM thought so too, so they bought it :) --Scott - Original Message - From: "Neil Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge Who cares about Flash; it is total bollox (if you want animation use Director) - I think also people dont remember that Flash was not orginally an MM product. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Double posts....
MD... I seem to be getting some double posts...and I think I had some the other day when someone asked the same question...not sure but this seems to happen each time after a long lull in posts arriving...didn't get anything from the list most of yesterday afternoon(thought it might just be everyone digesting the merger...:) ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Short Circuit Evaluation
Cold fusion uses Lazy evaluation.
I use the exact syntax you posted regularly in CF 4.5.1.
Russel
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-Original Message-
From: Ruslan Sivak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Short Circuit Evaluation
I have had to write this kind of code over and over, and was wondering if
there is a better way like in c++, where it does lazy evaluation.
This is what I want:
CFIF isDefined("somevar") AND somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
Of course this fails, since if the variable is not defined, CF stil checks
the second condition. In languages like C++, it did lazy
evaluation, so if
the first condition was false, it didn't bother checking the second
condition. This let people write things like
open(FILE,"file") || die "Can't open file";
So in CF I have to rewrite my above IF statement as 2 statements
CFIF isDefined("somevar")
CFIF somevar IS "something"
do something
/CFIF
/CFIF
Is there a better way?
Ruslan Sivak
Technologist
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