CFC problems - portability workaround

2004-01-18 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I just posted a more detailed explanation of my problem with a
workaround for CFC portability issues on my blog (in response to Sean
Corfield's comments). I would actually greatly appreciate any input on
the issue if anyone has any. I can't come up with a decent solution --
yet again, at least in my experience, CFC's causing problems without
solving any.

http://www.turnkey.to/ontap/blog/?20040117

s. isaac dealey 214-823-9345

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RE: session management help please

2004-01-18 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Thank you so much... I thought that this was going to be the only way to
pull this off. I guess at any rate I can add this to the macormedia wish
list for the next version of coldfusion. Macormedia really needs to add a
new and better tags for session management. ROFLMAO... If I was a better
programmer at c or java, I'ld write my own custom tag to handle this and
make lots of $$$!



Well I wouldn't specifically blame Macromedia for this. That is just the way
web browsers work. They are stateless so once a request is completed the
web server doesn't give a damn what the client/browser does.
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RE: Configuring Apache to run Cold Fusion files

2004-01-18 Thread Scott Williams
CF 4.0 and Apache 1.3.29

--- Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can anyone remember how to configure Apache to
 handle
  Cold Fusion files?
 
 What version of Apache and CF are you using?
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 phone: 202-797-5496
 fax: 202-797-5444
 

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ENCRYPT EXE Question

2004-01-18 Thread Schuster, Steven
Ok,

I know the version of encrypt has been broken for years (ie, programs
available online to decrypt the encrypted files)...but has anyone bothered
to see if the version in the latest MX 6.1 is any better. Is it possible to
pass a cipher key to ensure unique encryption that could then not be hacked
as easily as the old version. Or is it possible that they never even
bothered to upgrade it at all and no matter what I do it will always be able
to be decrypted?
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Re: session management help please

2004-01-18 Thread walker
You can check the HTTP_REFERER to see if they came from your domain or 
somewhere else

So if they come in from anywhere outside of your domain, you can make them 
log in.

If you really want to be strict about it, put a redirect in the http header 
that will log them out if they are inactive for more than x seconds. On the 
logout page you can clear/delete the sessions.

If they leave the site without logging out, then you can delete any 
sessions that have been inactive for more than x seconds.

You might chew up a lot of server resources doing this, but you could make 
your stats a little more accurate.

Actually, now that i think about it, you don't neecessarily need the 
redirect, unless you want to clear the page of whatever was on it

Hope that helps

-w

At 03:49 PM 1/17/2004, you wrote:
the reason I would like to end sessions in thos way is the fact that a
certain page on the site will have a chatroom on it. A user can spend a
unknown amount of time there, then either surf to other sections of the
site, of surf somewhere else. if the person does leave the site and then
returns, I want them to have to sign in again. This is of course for reasons
of security. I also will be adding a include file that that tells the number
of active sessions out of the number of registered users. It will also
include a link to see who is online. As you can see it will be wise to be
albe to end a session if a user surfs away form the site. Any thoughts on
this?

thanks;
Rino

 From: Bob Haroche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: session management help please
 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:33:46 -0800
 
 I'm wondering why Nancy wants to end session variables in the way she
 describes. Perhaps there are other ways of achieving her goal.
 
 For example, perhaps a clunky one, she could set very short lived
 session variables and refresh them on each page request for another
 very short period of time. When the visitor leaves her site, the
 session will end shortly thereafter.
 
 
 -
 Regards,
 Bob Haroche
 O n P o i n tS o l u t i o n s
 www.OnPointSolutions.com
 
 
 

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RE: ENCRYPT EXE Question

2004-01-18 Thread Kwang Suh
It's just as useless.

-Original Message-
From: Schuster, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 18, 2004 2:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ENCRYPT EXE Question

Ok,

I know the version of encrypt has been broken for years (ie, programs
available online to decrypt the encrypted files)...but has anyone bothered
to see if the version in the latest MX 6.1 is any better. Is it possible to
pass a cipher key to ensure unique encryption that could then not be hacked
as easily as the old version. Or is it possible that they never even
bothered to upgrade it at all and no matter what I do it will always be able
to be decrypted? 
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Re: Remember Me

2004-01-18 Thread peter . tilbrook
And they should have an identical application name in the CFAPPLICATION
tag of Application.cfm.

Peter Tilbrook
Transitional Services - Enterprise eSolutions
Centrelink (http://www.centrelink.gov.au)
2 Faulding Street
Symonston ACT 2609

Tel: (02) 62115927


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Subject:Re: Remember Me
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CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

2004-01-18 Thread Jake McKee
I've been using PayPal's IPN system for automated purchasing for a while
now. It's been working like a champ for a couple of months, and then
suddenly stopped working without change to the code or server config.
After searching high and low, I discovered that PayPal recently changed
their IPN functionality to require 128bit SSL. 

Since my CFMX server is still running CFMX 6.0, and an upgrade to 6.1
(which supposedly fixes the CFHTTP problems) is not possible, I'm at a
bit of a loss. (It seems that Able Commerce, which is also running on
this server has a problem of some sort with 6.1 vs. 6.0. And no, I cant'
switch to Able Commerce)

Anyone have any ideas for a possible CFHTTP replacement that DOES do
128bit SSL correctly?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jake
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RE: CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

2004-01-18 Thread Greg Luce
Why is upgrading to 6.1 out of the question? It's my understanding that
staying with 6.0 is asking for trouble. There's no cost to the upgrade
correct?

 
Greg

 
-Original Message-
From: Jake McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

 
I've been using PayPal's IPN system for automated purchasing for a while
now. It's been working like a champ for a couple of months, and then
suddenly stopped working without change to the code or server config.
After searching high and low, I discovered that PayPal recently changed
their IPN functionality to require 128bit SSL. 

Since my CFMX server is still running CFMX 6.0, and an upgrade to 6.1
(which supposedly fixes the CFHTTP problems) is not possible, I'm at a
bit of a loss. (It seems that Able Commerce, which is also running on
this server has a problem of some sort with 6.1 vs. 6.0. And no, I cant'
switch to Able Commerce)

Anyone have any ideas for a possible CFHTTP replacement that DOES do
128bit SSL correctly?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jake
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Re: html to image

2004-01-18 Thread brobborb
http://freedownloadswindows.com/windows/Capture/655846/CAP.html

This is screen capture command line utility.awesome eh? :-DIt'll save your pictures somewhere as JPGs or GIFs or whatever,.Figure u can use CFEXECUTE with it
- Original Message - 
From: admin 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: html to image

Apologies if this has been covered before, but I couldn't find anything in the archives.

My problem is that I need to convert a webpage, it's a coldfusion generated stats page on a server, into an image (jpg, gif etc). This is so that I can view the server status from my TV via tivo. I've managed to do something crude using the cfx image tag but if I could capture the whole page and convert the html to an image I would be really happy.

Any thoughts ?

Cheers

Richard
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Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

2004-01-18 Thread Jake .
Like I mentioned, the Able Commerce platform seems to have an issue with something in 6.1, therefore making it out of the question at this time.

Why is upgrading to 6.1 out of the question? It's my understanding that
staying with 6.0 is asking for trouble. There's no cost to the upgrade
correct?
 
Greg
 
-Original Message-
From: Jake McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN
 
I've been using PayPal's IPN system for automated purchasing for a while
now. It's been working like a champ for a couple of months, and then
suddenly stopped working without change to the code or server config.
After searching high and low, I discovered that PayPal recently changed
their IPN functionality to require 128bit SSL. 

Since my CFMX server is still running CFMX 6.0, and an upgrade to 6.1
(which supposedly fixes the CFHTTP problems) is not possible, I'm at a
bit of a loss. (It seems that Able Commerce, which is also running on
this server has a problem of some sort with 6.1 vs. 6.0. And no, I cant'
switch to Able Commerce)

Anyone have any ideas for a possible CFHTTP replacement that DOES do
128bit SSL correctly?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jake
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Re: Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

2004-01-18 Thread Doug White
Perhaps it is time to switch hosts.

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- Original Message - 
From: Jake. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:11 PM
Subject: Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

: Like I mentioned, the Able Commerce platform seems to have an issue with
something in 6.1, therefore making it out of the question at this time.
:
:
:
: Why is upgrading to 6.1 out of the question? It's my understanding that
: staying with 6.0 is asking for trouble. There's no cost to the upgrade
: correct?
: 
: Greg
: 
: -Original Message-
: From: Jake McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:31 PM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN
: 
: I've been using PayPal's IPN system for automated purchasing for a while
: now. It's been working like a champ for a couple of months, and then
: suddenly stopped working without change to the code or server config.
: After searching high and low, I discovered that PayPal recently changed
: their IPN functionality to require 128bit SSL.
: 
: Since my CFMX server is still running CFMX 6.0, and an upgrade to 6.1
: (which supposedly fixes the CFHTTP problems) is not possible, I'm at a
: bit of a loss. (It seems that Able Commerce, which is also running on
: this server has a problem of some sort with 6.1 vs. 6.0. And no, I cant'
: switch to Able Commerce)
: 
: Anyone have any ideas for a possible CFHTTP replacement that DOES do
: 128bit SSL correctly?
: 
: Thanks in advance for your help!
: 
: Jake
: _
: 
: 
:
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RE: Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

2004-01-18 Thread Greg Luce
How long's 6.1 been out 6 months? Able Commerce isn't up to speed with
it yet? I thought they were better than that.

 
-Original Message-
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

 
Perhaps it is time to switch hosts.

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- Original Message - 
From: Jake. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:11 PM
Subject: Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

: Like I mentioned, the Able Commerce platform seems to have an issue
with
something in 6.1, therefore making it out of the question at this time.
:
:
:
: Why is upgrading to 6.1 out of the question? It's my understanding
that
: staying with 6.0 is asking for trouble. There's no cost to the
upgrade
: correct?
: 
: Greg
: 
: -Original Message-
: From: Jake McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:31 PM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN
: 
: I've been using PayPal's IPN system for automated purchasing for a
while
: now. It's been working like a champ for a couple of months, and then
: suddenly stopped working without change to the code or server config.
: After searching high and low, I discovered that PayPal recently
changed
: their IPN functionality to require 128bit SSL.
: 
: Since my CFMX server is still running CFMX 6.0, and an upgrade to 6.1
: (which supposedly fixes the CFHTTP problems) is not possible, I'm at
a
: bit of a loss. (It seems that Able Commerce, which is also running on
: this server has a problem of some sort with 6.1 vs. 6.0. And no, I
cant'
: switch to Able Commerce)
: 
: Anyone have any ideas for a possible CFHTTP replacement that DOES do
: 128bit SSL correctly?
: 
: Thanks in advance for your help!
: 
: Jake
: _
: 
: 
:
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Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

2004-01-18 Thread Jake .
Thanks, but no. 

Back to the original issue, anyone have any ideas for CFHTTP replacements?

Thanks!
Jake

Perhaps it is time to switch hosts.

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- Original Message - 
From: Jake. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:11 PM
Subject: Re:CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN


: Like I mentioned, the Able Commerce platform seems to have an issue with
something in 6.1, therefore making it out of the question at this time.
:
:
:
: Why is upgrading to 6.1 out of the question? It's my understanding that
: staying with 6.0 is asking for trouble. There's no cost to the upgrade
: correct?
: 
: Greg
: 
: -Original Message-
: From: Jake McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:31 PM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN
: 
: I've been using PayPal's IPN system for automated purchasing for a while
: now. It's been working like a champ for a couple of months, and then
: suddenly stopped working without change to the code or server config.
: After searching high and low, I discovered that PayPal recently changed
: their IPN functionality to require 128bit SSL.
: 
: Since my CFMX server is still running CFMX 6.0, and an upgrade to 6.1
: (which supposedly fixes the CFHTTP problems) is not possible, I'm at a
: bit of a loss. (It seems that Able Commerce, which is also running on
: this server has a problem of some sort with 6.1 vs. 6.0. And no, I cant'
: switch to Able Commerce)
: 
: Anyone have any ideas for a possible CFHTTP replacement that DOES do
: 128bit SSL correctly?
: 
: Thanks in advance for your help!
: 
: Jake
: _
: 
: 
:
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RE: CFHTTP problem, SSL, and PayPal IPN

2004-01-18 Thread Dave Watts
 Anyone have any ideas for a possible CFHTTP replacement that 
 DOES do 128bit SSL correctly?

The IO JSP custom tag from the Jakarta project should work:

http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/io-doc/index.html

But as others have said, you should probably look to migrate to CFMX 6.1,
which fixes a lot of significant problems with the previous version.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
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RE: session management help please

2004-01-18 Thread Dave Watts
 You can check the HTTP_REFERER to see if they came from your 
 domain or somewhere else
 
 So if they come in from anywhere outside of your domain, you 
 can make them log in.

It's worth pointing out that as HTTP_REFERER is provided by the browser, it
cannot be relied upon to be correct or even present. I think that it would
only be sent by most browsers if the user clicks on a link from a referring
page.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
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RE: ENCRYPT EXE Question

2004-01-18 Thread Dave Watts
 I know the version of encrypt has been broken for years (ie, 
 programs available online to decrypt the encrypted files)...but 
 has anyone bothered to see if the version in the latest MX 6.1 
 is any better. Is it possible to pass a cipher key to ensure 
 unique encryption that could then not be hacked as easily as 
 the old version. Or is it possible that they never even bothered 
 to upgrade it at all and no matter what I do it will always be 
 able to be decrypted?

I doubt that it's been changed at all from the previous version. On my
Windows machine, the files are the same size in CF 5 and CFMX 6.1. You can't
pass a key to it, as the server would then require the same key (in the case
of symmetric encryption) or the matching key from a public-private pair (in
the case of public key encryption).

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RE: Configuring Apache to run Cold Fusion files

2004-01-18 Thread Dave Watts
 CF 4.0 and Apache 1.3.29

I don't know this for certain, but I wouldn't be surprised if those two
product versions are incompatible. Apache 1.3.29 didn't exist when CF 4.0
was available. I recommend that you contact Macromedia support.

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RE: Fancy a ColdFusion Challenge?

2004-01-18 Thread Andrew Scott
Interesting that there is a site dedicated to algorithms 

 
http://hissa.ncsl.nist.gov/

 
If you look the code for this challenge and many others would be there, now
if anyone actually has the time to convert these to coldfusion would be
good.

Regards
Andrew Scott
Technical Consultant

NuSphere Pty Ltd
Level 2/33 Bank Street
South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205

Phone: 03 9686 0485-Fax: 03 9699 7976
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RE: session management help please

2004-01-18 Thread Dave Watts
 the reason I would like to end sessions in thos way is the 
 fact that a certain page on the site will have a chatroom 
 on it. A user can spend a unknown amount of time there, then 
 either surf to other sections of the site, of surf somewhere 
 else. if the person does leave the site and then returns, I 
 want them to have to sign in again. This is of course for 
 reasons of security. I also will be adding a include file 
 that that tells the number of active sessions out of the 
 number of registered users. It will also include a link to 
 see who is online. As you can see it will be wise to be 
 albe to end a session if a user surfs away form the site. 
 Any thoughts on this?

I think that you will be unable to accomplish this in an effective, useful
and reliable manner. This simply isn't the way HTTP works.

But in any case, I don't agree that it would necessarily be wise to be able
to end a session if the user leaves the site. Unless you're concerned about
people visiting your site from shared computers, it strikes me as overkill
to force a user to login again after going to another page.

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RE: ENCRYPT EXE Question

2004-01-18 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Any who's annoyed by BlueDragon advertisements please stop reading now.

...

If you're still reading then I assume you might be interested to know that
BlueDragon 6.1 implements a key-based encryption mechanism for creating
BlueDragon Archives (BDA) as an alternative to CFENCODE/CFENCRYPT. When you
create a BDA, you can provide a key to encrypt the archive; only people who
register your BDA with your key via the BlueDragon admin console are able to
read it. (If you don't provide a key then the archive is encrypted using a
default key built-in to BlueDragon--this is much less secure than providing
your own key). You have the option of creating a single BDA with a single
key to give your customers; or, to be even more secure, you can create a
separate BDA with a separate key per customer.

Another advantage of the BDA is that it allows you to deploy your
application (CFML pages, CFCs, custom tags, etc.) as a single file.

This BDA feature isn't enabled in the current BlueDragon 6.1 beta (beta2)
because we're still tweaking it. It will be available in the next beta
(beta3) in a few weeks; look for an announcement to this list if you're
interested in this feature.

Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com

-Original Message-
From: Schuster, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ENCRYPT EXE Question

Ok,

I know the version of encrypt has been broken for years (ie, programs
available online to decrypt the encrypted files)...but has anyone bothered
to see if the version in the latest MX 6.1 is any better. Is it possible to
pass a cipher key to ensure unique encryption that could then not be hacked
as easily as the old version. Or is it possible that they never even
bothered to upgrade it at all and no matter what I do it will always be able
to be decrypted?
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OT: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Hey everyone...
Sorry to keep beating a dead horse but I can not for the life of me get this
zipcode table I have in access imported into SQL server without losing the
zeros (initial and/or trailing). I have tried earlier posted suggestions and
sifted through google, the archives, and even tried to concoct a CF routine
to do it; all to no avail.

Any further suggestions before I give in and look for the data elsewhere?

Thanks,

Mike
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RE: session management help please

2004-01-18 Thread NANCY SKAGER
Finally it comes to this

As an old time chatter myself, I know from experiance, that when you log 
into a chatroom you can be there anywhere from 5 minutes to a couple of 
hours. This is the only thing messing with my session management. As I 
states earlier, I would like to add a who's online link to this site. It 
would upset me if I logged in a site and it said a friend of mine was online 
and come to find out they left an hour ago but it still says they ar logged 
in. So I would need to set my timeout session to about 15 or 20 minutes, as 
there would be no reason to spend anymore time than that on any given page 
other than the chatroom page.

Again the chatroom page is the only one that is messing with my session 
management. And yes, I want my chat page on the secured section of my site. 
Why you ask? Easy, you ever been to a chatroom where no matter what you do 
somebody has got to be a jerk? I want to be able to suspend account login if 
needed.

DUH! I just had a thought, tell me if this would work. It sounds 
so simple that it wont work. What if on the chatroom window only I add a 
extra, very small frame, nothing in it but a little code. I refresh that 
frame, and that frame only, say every 2 minutes. In that case it should keep 
the session active, yet should not offer a big bog down in the chat applet. 
If someone surfs out of the chatroom page, it could load a new page either 
with out that frame or swap that frame to a page not coded for refresh. In 
this way useing cookies I could end the session if the browser closes, or by 
setting my time out the session would end shortly after the user leaves my 
domain. Will this work? I think it will, tell me what you think.

One last quick question for the more expericenced. As you can tell this site 
will be a online community. It will also offer a e-store. Is it better to 
write two seperate applications (one for the store and the other to run the 
site) or, run them under one application?

Thanks again;
Rino

From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: session management help please
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:46:04 -0500

  You can check the HTTP_REFERER to see if they came from your
  domain or somewhere else
 
  So if they come in from anywhere outside of your domain, you
  can make them log in.

It's worth pointing out that as HTTP_REFERER is provided by the browser, it
cannot be relied upon to be correct or even present. I think that it would
only be sent by most browsers if the user clicks on a link from a referring
page.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444


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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
I haven't been following this thread. But what is the datatype in
Access?

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Hey everyone...
Sorry to keep beating a dead horse but I can not for the life of me get
this
zipcode table I have in access imported into SQL server without losing
the
zeros (initial and/or trailing). I have tried earlier posted suggestions
and
sifted through google, the archives, and even tried to concoct a CF
routine
to do it; all to no avail.

Any further suggestions before I give in and look for the data
elsewhere?

Thanks,

Mike 
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Philip Arnold
When doing the transform, make sure the field type isn't Int, but is
VarChar

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: Zipcode transfer woes continue..


 Hey everyone...
 Sorry to keep beating a dead horse but I can not for the life
 of me get this zipcode table I have in access imported into
 SQL server without losing the zeros (initial and/or
 trailing). I have tried earlier posted suggestions and sifted
 through google, the archives, and even tried to concoct a CF
 routine to do it; all to no avail.

 Any further suggestions before I give in and look for the
 data elsewhere?

 Thanks,

 Mike


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Mapping problems with new MX/IIS install, help please

2004-01-18 Thread Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC)
Environment:
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*
ColdFusion Server Developer 6,1,0,63958
IIS 5.0
WIN2K
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*

:P

I just did a clean install of MX, removing the CF5 to IIS and MX to its standalone server, now having MX on port 80 and using IIS.

I'm trying to just dump a FB3 app into a subdirectory, set up the data source, and have it up and going.

I went into CF Administrator  Mappings and added the sites sub directory.

So this is the current is the entry list in admin mappings:
 
/ C:\Inetpub\wwwroot

/CFIDE C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE
 
/dbSurveyDemo C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\dbSurveyDemo

 However, when I try to browse to:

http://192.168.0.2/dbSurveyDemo/index.cfm

I get this in the browser:
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*

Error Occurred While Processing Request
File not found: /dbSurveyDemo/index.cfm

 

Please try the following: 
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax. 
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. 

BrowserMozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) 
Remote Address192.168.0.3 
Referrer 
Date/Time18-Jan-04 10:17 PM 

 
Stack Trace (click to expand)
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*

Do I need to make a virtual directory in IIS as well?

I will upload and work on my Crystal Tech server for now(yuck, constant ftp syncs), but I would like to get my local dev server working properly.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks,

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RE: Mapping problems with new MX/IIS install, help please

2004-01-18 Thread Tim Heald
Yeah you need an IIS virtual directory as well.

If you were trying to include that in a template located in or off of your
web root it would have worked with the mapping, but not trying to browse it
through IIS.
-Original Message-
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mapping problems with new MX/IIS install, help please

Environment:
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*
ColdFusion Server Developer 6,1,0,63958
IIS 5.0
WIN2K
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*

:P

I just did a clean install of MX, removing the CF5 to IIS and MX to its
standalone server, now having MX on port 80 and using IIS.

I'm trying to just dump a FB3 app into a subdirectory, set up the data
source, and have it up and going.

I went into CF Administrator  Mappings and added the sites sub directory.

So this is the current is the entry list in admin mappings:

/ C:\Inetpub\wwwroot

/CFIDE C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE

/dbSurveyDemo C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\dbSurveyDemo

However, when I try to browse to:

http://192.168.0.2/dbSurveyDemo/index.cfm

I get this in the browser:
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*

Error Occurred While Processing Request
File not found: /dbSurveyDemo/index.cfm

Please try the following:
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the
correct syntax.
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.

BrowserMozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Remote Address192.168.0.3
Referrer
Date/Time18-Jan-04 10:17 PM

Stack Trace (click to expand)
*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*

Do I need to make a virtual directory in IIS as well?

I will upload and work on my Crystal Tech server for now(yuck, constant
ftp syncs), but I would like to get my local dev server working properly.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Matthew P. Smith
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RE: session management help please

2004-01-18 Thread Dave Watts
 As an old time chatter myself, I know from experiance, that 
 when you log into a chatroom you can be there anywhere from 
 5 minutes to a couple of hours. This is the only thing messing 
 with my session management. As I states earlier, I would like 
 to add a who's online link to this site. It would upset me if 
 I logged in a site and it said a friend of mine was online 
 and come to find out they left an hour ago but it still says 
 they ar logged in. So I would need to set my timeout session 
 to about 15 or 20 minutes, as there would be no reason to 
 spend anymore time than that on any given page other than the 
 chatroom page.

I'm not an expert on chat applications, but most chat software I've seen has
the ability to list who's in the chat room at any given moment - chat
applications typically maintain a connection to a chat server, and aren't
limited by how HTTP works. Depending on the API of your chat software, you
may be able to query it from CF to see who's in what room.

 DUH! I just had a thought, tell me if this would 
 work. It sounds so simple that it wont work. What if on the 
 chatroom window only I add a extra, very small frame, nothing 
 in it but a little code. I refresh that frame, and that frame 
 only, say every 2 minutes. In that case it should keep the 
 session active, yet should not offer a big bog down in the 
 chat applet. If someone surfs out of the chatroom page, it 
 could load a new page either with out that frame or swap that 
 frame to a page not coded for refresh. In this way useing 
 cookies I could end the session if the browser closes, or by 
 setting my time out the session would end shortly after the 
 user leaves my domain. Will this work? I think it will, tell 
 me what you think.

This will allow you to maintain the user's session while that user is within
your chat page. This is a pretty common approach to this problem, I think.
However, it will not end the session when the user goes to a page outside of
your application, as you originally asked.

 One last quick question for the more expericenced. As you can 
 tell this site will be a online community. It will also offer 
 a e-store. Is it better to write two seperate applications (one 
 for the store and the other to run the site) or, run them under 
 one application?

If you want to share session data between your store and the rest of the
site, it's probably easier to have them within a single application.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Data type in access is number... trying to bring it into sql server as a
varchar.

 
Mike

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From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

I haven't been following this thread. But what is the datatype in
Access?

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Hey everyone...
Sorry to keep beating a dead horse but I can not for the life of me get
this
zipcode table I have in access imported into SQL server without losing
the
zeros (initial and/or trailing). I have tried earlier posted suggestions
and
sifted through google, the archives, and even tried to concoct a CF
routine
to do it; all to no avail.

Any further suggestions before I give in and look for the data
elsewhere?

Thanks,

Mike 
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RE: Mapping problems with new MX/IIS install, help please

2004-01-18 Thread Dave Watts
 I just did a clean install of MX, removing the CF5 to IIS and 
 MX to its standalone server, now having MX on port 80 and using IIS.
 
 I'm trying to just dump a FB3 app into a subdirectory, set up 
 the data source, and have it up and going.
 
 I went into CF Administrator  Mappings and added the sites 
 sub directory.
 
 So this is the current is the entry list in admin mappings:

 / C:\Inetpub\wwwroot

 /CFIDE C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE

 /dbSurveyDemo C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\dbSurveyDemo
 
However, when I try to browse to:
 
 http://192.168.0.2/dbSurveyDemo/index.cfm
 
 I get this in the browser:
 */*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*
 
 Error Occurred While Processing Request
 File not found: /dbSurveyDemo/index.cfm 

 ...

 Do I need to make a virtual directory in IIS as well?

You only need to create mappings in the CF Administrator for use within CF
tags, such as CFINCLUDE and CFMODULE. When you request a file directly, CF
mappings have nothing to do with that.

That said, if your web root is at c:\inetpub\wwwroot and your application is
at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\dbSurveyDemo, you shouldn't have to create a virtual
directory within IIS to make it work. This makes me suspect that you had a
different web root when you'd previously installed CFMX, and it's looking
within there to resolve requests.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Tim Heald
Try changing the data type in access to memo or text before doing the
transfer?
-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Data type in access is number... trying to bring it into sql server as a
varchar.

Mike

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From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

I haven't been following this thread. But what is the datatype in
Access?

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Hey everyone...
Sorry to keep beating a dead horse but I can not for the life of me get
this
zipcode table I have in access imported into SQL server without losing
the
zeros (initial and/or trailing). I have tried earlier posted suggestions
and
sifted through google, the archives, and even tried to concoct a CF
routine
to do it; all to no avail.

Any further suggestions before I give in and look for the data
elsewhere?

Thanks,

Mike
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Ok, change the datatype in access to text then import it.

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From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Data type in access is number... trying to bring it into sql server as a
varchar.

Mike
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
I tried that... when you change the datatype in access, it cuts the zeros
out just like importing the records into sql

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From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Ok, change the datatype in access to text then import it.

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Data type in access is number... trying to bring it into sql server as a
varchar.

Mike 
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Does the zip codes in the access database contain the 0 when you view
the data?

 
-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

I tried that... when you change the datatype in access, it cuts the
zeros
out just like importing the records into sql
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RE: session management help please

2004-01-18 Thread NANCY SKAGER
Thanks for your input Dave. This is my first time at writing a community, so 
the chat page lost me. I was trying s hard to think about how to end 
session management in the case of surfing somewhere else I missed what we 
call in my graphic design background the Elegant Simplicity.

As I said it never was an issue of the user surfing somewhere else, it was 
the thought of spending too much time in the chatroom.

And no, like any online store, you wnat to move the product... There is no 
reason to share info from the store to the rest of the site, unless i would 
like to query the users personal info for shopping cart reasons, but that 
could be done on a seperate application, yet sending that query to the same 
database... not as easy as it sounds but you get what I mean...

Thanks again Dave, and the rest of you too that commented. I did come up 
with the solution all on my own, but it was presenting the question to those 
that would listen that helped

Thanks;
Rino

From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: session management help please
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:43:17 -0500

  As an old time chatter myself, I know from experiance, that
  when you log into a chatroom you can be there anywhere from
  5 minutes to a couple of hours. This is the only thing messing
  with my session management. As I states earlier, I would like
  to add a who's online link to this site. It would upset me if
  I logged in a site and it said a friend of mine was online
  and come to find out they left an hour ago but it still says
  they ar logged in. So I would need to set my timeout session
  to about 15 or 20 minutes, as there would be no reason to
  spend anymore time than that on any given page other than the
  chatroom page.

I'm not an expert on chat applications, but most chat software I've seen 
has
the ability to list who's in the chat room at any given moment - chat
applications typically maintain a connection to a chat server, and aren't
limited by how HTTP works. Depending on the API of your chat software, you
may be able to query it from CF to see who's in what room.

  DUH! I just had a thought, tell me if this would
  work. It sounds so simple that it wont work. What if on the
  chatroom window only I add a extra, very small frame, nothing
  in it but a little code. I refresh that frame, and that frame
  only, say every 2 minutes. In that case it should keep the
  session active, yet should not offer a big bog down in the
  chat applet. If someone surfs out of the chatroom page, it
  could load a new page either with out that frame or swap that
  frame to a page not coded for refresh. In this way useing
  cookies I could end the session if the browser closes, or by
  setting my time out the session would end shortly after the
  user leaves my domain. Will this work? I think it will, tell
  me what you think.

This will allow you to maintain the user's session while that user is 
within
your chat page. This is a pretty common approach to this problem, I think.
However, it will not end the session when the user goes to a page outside 
of
your application, as you originally asked.

  One last quick question for the more expericenced. As you can
  tell this site will be a online community. It will also offer
  a e-store. Is it better to write two seperate applications (one
  for the store and the other to run the site) or, run them under
  one application?

If you want to share session data between your store and the rest of the
site, it's probably easier to have them within a single application.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444


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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
yeah, in access it stores fine.
The datatype is set to number and the attributes are as follows:

 
Field Size: Long Integer
Format: 0
Decimal: Auto

 
Any ideas?


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From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Does the zip codes in the access database contain the 0 when you view
the data?

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

I tried that... when you change the datatype in access, it cuts the
zeros
out just like importing the records into sql 
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
you can go ahead and import it. then change do a query where your column
is less than 5 and update those rows appending the 0s. it's a pain i
know.

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

yeah, in access it stores fine.
The datatype is set to number and the attributes are as follows:

Field Size: Long Integer
Format: 0
Decimal: Auto
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RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

2004-01-18 Thread Jeff Garza
Maybe a more simple approach is in order... have you tried cutting and
pasting the information into Excel and using DTS from there?I just tried
copying a zip DB that I have into excel and it kept the leading and trailing
zeros.You should then be able to use that file to DTS the info into a
varchar field in your SQL DB.

 
Cheers,

 
Jeff Garza

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From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

yeah, in access it stores fine.
The datatype is set to number and the attributes are as follows:

Field Size: Long Integer
Format: 0
Decimal: Auto

Any ideas?

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From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

Does the zip codes in the access database contain the 0 when you view
the data?

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zipcode transfer woes continue..

I tried that... when you change the datatype in access, it cuts the
zeros
out just like importing the records into sql 
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Re: html to image

2004-01-18 Thread admin
doesn't really do it I'm afraid
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From: brobborb 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: html to image

http://freedownloadswindows.com/windows/Capture/655846/CAP.html

This is screen capture command line utility.awesome eh? :-DIt'll save your pictures somewhere as JPGs or GIFs or whatever,.Figure u can use CFEXECUTE with it
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 From: admin 
 To: CF-Talk 
 Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:04 PM
 Subject: html to image

 Apologies if this has been covered before, but I couldn't find anything in the archives.

 My problem is that I need to convert a webpage, it's a coldfusion generated stats page on a server, into an image (jpg, gif etc). This is so that I can view the server status from my TV via tivo. I've managed to do something crude using the cfx image tag but if I could capture the whole page and convert the html to an image I would be really happy.

 Any thoughts ?

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RE: CFC problems - portability workaround

2004-01-18 Thread Jim Davis
Well - I don't agree that don't solve anything - I like them.;^)

 
But they are broken.Severely broken.

 
The main thing I think that's needed for CFCs is a CLEAR RECOMMENDATION from
Macromedia for hosters of shared virtual servers.Accompanying this should
be a clear recommendation from Macromedia for CFC authors on how to author
CFCs for shared hosting environments.

 
As to the issues at hand in the entries I think that the issue of where
extends is dealt with doesn't have to be a problem.Fine, it's compile
time and can't be a variable - great.Now, considering that how do CFCs
need to work?I personally think that thediscovery process is rather
broken - and is so because the CF Mappings system has been broken since it
was introduced.

 
The mappings system has been a problem for CF on shared hosts since day one.
Fixing this, I think, could help with many of the problems of CFCs.I've
had several ideas on this front tho I don't know how feasible any of them
are:

 
1) Mappings could have the option to be virtual server specific.I know, CF
runs outside the web server but it definitely knows something about the
environment.Having mappings (as an option) be specific to hostnames could
eliminate many issues with shared hosts.I could have a com mapping, you
could have a com mapping, and so forth.

 
Yes you still need to add a mapping (which I don't mind so much if there's
no chance for name conflicts with other virtual servers) but a distributed
app can safely specify this without worrying about naming conflicts using
Java-style package naming.

 
2) Mappings could be programmatically controllable at the application (or
even the request) level.Consider something like this:

 
cfapplication name=myApp sessionmanagement=True
cfapplicationparam type=mapping name=/
path=myVirtualServerPath /
/cfapplication

 
This can be extended to cover many currently admin-only capabilities (if
permitted by security policies) such as debugging.Such mappings would only
affect templates in the application.Since these would be defined before a
CFC call (before compilation) I think it would work - although changing
these transient paths would probably cause recompilations. 

 
These mappings would override server-level mappings allowing distributed
applications to sneak in with no CFAdmin access or stepping on of toes.
At the worst you may have to request the addition of a application mapping -
but since most apps ship with there own application.cfm I don't think even
this would be an issue.

 
3) CFCs (especially the EXTENDS attribute) could allow for relative paths
(not dynamic paths mind, relative paths).This has the potential to solve
many problems and raise others.But again, it would allow distributed apps
to exist with no CFAdmin requirements.

 
4) I would like to see control at the CFC-level for the path discovery
process.You might, for example, have an attribute that forces the
discovery process to use search from the web root and ignore mappings.
This wouldn't be a perfect solution but would allow a distributed
application to work with no mappings and fewer (at least) worries about name
conflicts.

 
In case you haven't guessed I don't think that the problems aren with CFCs
per se but the mapping/discovery foundation on which they're dependent.
This has always been an issue to some extent (although CFMODULE solved it
for custom tags) but with CFCs is just crippling in shared hosting
environments.

 
Jim Davis

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From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFC problems - portability workaround

 
I just posted a more detailed explanation of my problem with a
workaround for CFC portability issues on my blog (in response to Sean
Corfield's comments). I would actually greatly appreciate any input on
the issue if anyone has any. I can't come up with a decent solution --
yet again, at least in my experience, CFC's causing problems without
solving any.

http://www.turnkey.to/ontap/blog/?20040117

s. isaac dealey 214-823-9345

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RE: CFC problems - portability workaround

2004-01-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Add to that the ability to extend more than one component. 

 
Built in ability to check where a CFC is being called from. i.e.
tagcontext. 

 
Ability to have cfc in sub-directories under a package directory, so we
can organize cfc packages.

 
A easier way to initialize a cfc only once.
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