RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like these
and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the default-err.log
to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:448
)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:29
4)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 




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Re: PostgreSQL database size

2004-11-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Office wrote:
 
 I have a large 60GB data set of land parcel and related information for NZ 
 which has to be imported from some kind of txt files. One table is apparently 
 5 GB. The data then needs to be transformed and then accessed via cold fusion 
 on an in house server.

PostgreSQL should be able to handle this without a problem on 
suitable hardware. Don't forget to check out the PostGIS project, 
it plugs GIS features right into PostgreSQL.


 I've seen reviews claiming that MySQL and PostgreSQL fall over at the 100GB 
 limit 

Links?


 so kind of curious about the truth in that.

There are hundreds of people running terrabyte databases on 
PostgreSQL.


 I notice that Macromedia don't include PostgreSQL as a supported database fof 
 Coldfusion MX6.1 Server but Bluedragon do.

http://www1.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/index.cfm?PageID=16

Jochem

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CFScheduler and java mail exceptions....

2004-11-29 Thread rob.stokes
Morning all
 
I've got a scheduled task that distributes about 1400 e-mails to our users. 
Recently though it's only been sending about 1000 of these e-mails: the 
remaining 400 do not send (have to send manually). There is nothing in the 
application.log, but the following is in MailSent.log (x400 lines):
 
Information,scheduler-4,11/29/04,09:48:35,,Moved undelivered mail: 
Mail56511.cfmail to C:\CFusionMX/Mail/Undelivr directory

And the following is in the exception.log (x400 times):



Error,scheduler-4,11/29/04,09:48:35,,220 tmcmon02-lgn.penmail.bt.com 
NTMail (v4.30.0013/NT2289.01.57849cd5) ready for ESMTP transfer
javax.mail.MessagingException: 220 tmcmon02-lgn.penmail.bt.com NTMail 
(v4.30.0013/NT2289.01.57849cd5) ready for ESMTP transfer   
 
 at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.issueCommand(SMTPTransport.java:879)
 at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.helo(SMTPTransport.java:511)
 at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.protocolConnect(SMTPTransport.java:243)
 at javax.mail.Service.connect(Service.java:234)
 at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.getConnection(MailSpooler.java:871)
 at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:744)
 at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:674)
 at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverStandard(MailSpooler.java:947)
 at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:912)
 at coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:201)
 at coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:70)
 
 
Any ideas as to what I should be looking at to get this fixed?
 
Cheers
rob

 


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Re: OT: Multiple sites using one IP

2004-11-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Paul Campano wrote:
 Right now I have a number of CF sites on my WIN2K box that's running CFMX.
 Each site currently has it's own IP.  I've heard that some people configure
 their servers to use one IP for many websites.  How would I do this?

http://www.google.com/search?q=IIS+multiple+websites+on+1+IP

Jochem

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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:448
)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a:29
4)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 






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RE: Bug fix follow-up application

2004-11-29 Thread Andy Mcshane
Hi, I like the look of this application, it appears to do almost
everything that I to need. I have had no problems installing it and
getting it running. For someone relatively new to Coldfusion the source
code is very impressive  informative. Just one thing, I need to make a
little change to get it to completely fullfill my needs but I cannot
seem to get any debug information displayed for these pages even though
I have debugging switched on. Is there a setting on one of the pages
that prevents this?

Andy McShane 
Head of Development
Scout7 Ltd, 
324a Lichfield Road, 
Mere Green, 
Sutton Coldfield 
West Midlands 
United Kingdom 
B74 2UW 

Telephone: +44 (0)121 323 2640 
Mobile : 07866 430783 
Fax: +44 (0)121 323 2010 
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Website: www.scout7.com

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 November 2004 15:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Bug fix follow-up application

Paatrick, if James' suggestion doesn't help, you may want to contact
me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have an update to Lighthouse
coming out soon, but have yet to set up a forum for it like my other
products.


On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:22:30 -0500, CFDEV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks.. It looks good..
 
 I installed it on my developper machine without any problem but when I
put
 it on our dev server which is confgirued differently with virtual
directory
 in IIS, I map the tracker and put the apps in a folder I can and when
I try
 to make it works it's kinda of in an infinity loop on index.cfm
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks
 
 Patrick
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: November 24, 2004 19:22
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Bug fix follow-up application
 
 Check out 'lighthouse' by Ray Camden.
 http://www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog/
 
  On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:41:14 -0500, CFDEV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   Does anyone knows a good open source project of following bugs for
   software developement? preferably an application that is written
in CF.
 
 



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Re: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Simon Horwith
I didn't see this mentioned yet so I thought I'd mention that running a 
CF Application in a J2EE environment using a server cluster tends to do 
wonderful things for garbage collection.  Essentially, one server in the 
cluster ends-up handling the garbage collection, thus allowing the other 
cluster members to continue servicing HTTP Requests without a 
significant performance degradation.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:448
)
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a:29
4)
   at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 








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Re: Bug fix follow-up application

2004-11-29 Thread Andy Mcshane
Hi, I like the look of this application, it appears to do almost
everything that I to need. I have had no problems installing it and
getting it running. For someone relatively new to Coldfusion the source
code is very impressive  informative. Just one thing, I need to make a
little change to get it to completely fullfill my needs but I cannot
seem to get any debug information displayed for these pages even though
I have debugging switched on. Is there a setting on one of the pages
that prevents this?

Andy McShane 
Head of Development
Scout7 Ltd, 
324a Lichfield Road, 
Mere Green, 
Sutton Coldfield 
West Midlands 
United Kingdom 
B74 2UW 

Telephone: +44 (0)121 323 2640 
Mobile : 07866 430783 
Fax: +44 (0)121 323 2010 
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Website: www.scout7.com


Please ignore this, Monday morning blues!. Trying to debug code on my local 
machine that is actually running on a different machine, doh! 

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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread gabriel l smallman
I have a couple machines with high load like you mention. I have just
updated them all the latest jvm 1.4.2_6 And the new drivers mm suggests.

1 machine has run flawlessly for about 1 week, before it was tanking like
every other day. The other had one blip after 4 days and now is looking
good.

I suspect from reading a lot of messages about this it is not an easy fix. I
would try the updates and if you still have trouble its time to start the
jrun logging and garbage collecting logging and get greasy under the hood.

I have seen a lot of people tinkering with the jvm arguments, it appears
that depending on your application they might be able to be optimized to fit
your load.

If you haven't don't those 2 updates I would do so asap, let me know how it
goes

gabe

 

-Original Message-
From: Katz, Dov B (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to how
to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some threads
return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a Cannot
connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like these
and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the default-err.log
to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:448
)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a:29
4)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 








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CF and Gantt charts

2004-11-29 Thread Christian Kavanagh
Dear list,

I'd quite like to display Gantt charts in my project management 
application.  Is there a way to do this?  Would I need to use this 
Macromedia Flex thing I'm reading about?

Kind regards,
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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread gabriel l smallman
That is quite cool, I assume the license for the j2ee edition is a bit more
then the 1200 for the standard license?

gabe 

-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mx hanging no available threads

I didn't see this mentioned yet so I thought I'd mention that running a CF
Application in a J2EE environment using a server cluster tends to do
wonderful things for garbage collection.  Essentially, one server in the
cluster ends-up handling the garbage collection, thus allowing the other
cluster members to continue servicing HTTP Requests without a significant
performance degradation.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to 
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in 
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some 
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a 
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or 
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like 
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage 
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After 
running perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the 
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available 
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active 
threads in the thread pool.
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a
:448
)
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.ja
v
a:29
4)
   at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe










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Re: PostgreSQL database size

2004-11-29 Thread Paul Hastings
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
 PostgreSQL should be able to handle this without a problem on 
 suitable hardware. Don't forget to check out the PostGIS project, 
 it plugs GIS features right into PostgreSQL.

yeah, it's pretty slick. i've been a long-long time user of commercial 
GIS database products (mainly arcSDE) and to be able to use cf to run 
spatial queries is pretty freaking fantastic:

!--- find the province this point lies within ---
cfquery name=findProvince datasource=postGIS
  SELECT provinceName
  FROM provinces
  WHERE CONTAINS(the_geom, GeometryFromText('POINT(100.65 13.85)')
/cfquery

and to top it off it can output results as SVG.

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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread gabriel l smallman
It is a twin 2.8
2 gigs of ram
Win 2.3k 

Heap is set to min=750, max=1024

I suspected that and have noticed a lot of people tinkering with the
collection items in the jvm arguments.

I tried to follow the best practice I found on the forums boards from mm
but was unable to get the mx server to restart after the updates.

Have you guys been playing with arguments for better GC performance?

gabe

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like these
and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the default-err.log
to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:448
)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:29
4)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 






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Re: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Simon Horwith
you need the Enterprise license... I'm not sure what the pricing is 
off the top of my head, but yes, it's more than a standard license 
(and well-worth it if you need those features).

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




gabriel l smallman wrote:

That is quite cool, I assume the license for the j2ee edition is a bit more
then the 1200 for the standard license?

gabe 

-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mx hanging no available threads

I didn't see this mentioned yet so I thought I'd mention that running a CF
Application in a J2EE environment using a server cluster tends to do
wonderful things for garbage collection.  Essentially, one server in the
cluster ends-up handling the garbage collection, thus allowing the other
cluster members to continue servicing HTTP Requests without a significant
performance degradation.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

  

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to 
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in 
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some 
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a 
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or 
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like 
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage 
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After 
running perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the 
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available 
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active 
threads in the thread pool.
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a
:448
)
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.ja
v
a:29
4)
  at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe














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Re: CF and Gantt charts

2004-11-29 Thread Simon Horwith
Gantt charts are a bit beyond what you can do with CFCHART.  I've 
recently presented about (at mini MAX) and written a prototype Gantt 
chart custom tag API.  There will also be an article about it in the 
January issue of CFDJ.  I plan to make the code available after I've 
tidied it up a bit (remember - I just built a prototype though it is 
very flexible for one) but if you want to email me off-list, I'll gladly 
send you a copy toplay with.  Due to the cost and time requirements, I 
implemented SVG for the API.  I would have prefered Flash Gantt Charts, 
but there was no time to develop a generic Flash SWF to render them.  In 
the future, a Flash SWF that parses SVG XML could easily be written to 
use the API.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
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Christian Kavanagh wrote:

Dear list,

I'd quite like to display Gantt charts in my project management 
application.  Is there a way to do this?  Would I need to use this 
Macromedia Flex thing I'm reading about?

Kind regards,
Chris.




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Re: Opening files on your system

2004-11-29 Thread Rick Root
Christian Kavanagh wrote:
 
 Yeah?  So is there a native way in CF for the user to browse to a file 
 on their machine (or LAN), and select it?

Try using an INPUT TYPE=FILE, and use some javascript to copy it's 
value to an INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN on submit.  You could also clear the 
file input with javascript, and that might avoid the unnecessary file 
upload.

 Also, loading the file on click: is there a way to do that in CF, or 
 should I be looking at that as a browser function?

a href=#related_file_1##related_file_1#/a

Just tested that, it works quite nicely in IE, which converted it to a 
file:// url.  However, Firefox did not.  Perhaps you could manufacture a 
valid file:// url somehow.. I tried a few different things in firefox 
but they didn't work.  Or maybe you don't care about non-IE browsers.

Good luck!  Hope this helps.

Rick


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Dilbert tag

2004-11-29 Thread James Watkins
Since going to Windows 2003 with IIS v6  and CFX6.1  I cannot get the Dilbert 
tag created by B. Peter Amiri to save a .gif file to my server.  The same tag 
works on CF5 and Win 2000 Webserver.  Does anyone know what the problem is?
 
Jim Watkins
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Technology  Institutional Services


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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Micha Schopman
You can always do such things, but without extensive testing of your
total setup you might end up with two machines being collapsed. That
mentioned dual Xeon 2.8 and those 2 gigs of ram should be sufficient for
the average medium volume website unless it contains a lot of crappy
code.

I don't think you end up happy with an extra instance, I'd suggest you
look at the logs and performance counters to see what happens with your
server.

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Hey Simon, 

Yeah you mentioned this the other night in London but things went a bit awry
before I could ask you something ;-)  OK, with this theory, is this machine
which does the Garbage Collection nominated?

If it was, you could simply get a chunky machine to do all that.

N






-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2004 12:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mx hanging no available threads

I didn't see this mentioned yet so I thought I'd mention that running a 
CF Application in a J2EE environment using a server cluster tends to do 
wonderful things for garbage collection.  Essentially, one server in the 
cluster ends-up handling the garbage collection, thus allowing the other 
cluster members to continue servicing HTTP Requests without a 
significant performance degradation.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:448
)
   at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a:29
4)
   at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 










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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Well, we ran lots of custom build Memory management tools to monitor our
memory consumption and also ran JVMStat to monitor how well it performs when
it does do a Garbage Collection.





-Original Message-
From: Katz, Dov B (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2004 12:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:448
)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a:29
4)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 








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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Can you post your JVM Arguments here, so we can take a better look.



-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2004 13:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

It is a twin 2.8
2 gigs of ram
Win 2.3k 

Heap is set to min=750, max=1024

I suspected that and have noticed a lot of people tinkering with the
collection items in the jvm arguments.

I tried to follow the best practice I found on the forums boards from mm
but was unable to get the mx server to restart after the updates.

Have you guys been playing with arguments for better GC performance?

gabe

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like these
and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the default-err.log
to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:448
)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:29
4)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 








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OT: Powerpoint Penetration

2004-11-29 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Does anyone have any numbers on the market penetration of MS Office /
Powerpoint?

-Adam

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RE: Powerpoint Penetration

2004-11-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Well, Office is undoubtedly got the market and I would assume that logicall
you can assume Powerpoint is as well..


-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2004 14:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Powerpoint Penetration

Does anyone have any numbers on the market penetration of MS Office /
Powerpoint?

-Adam



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Re: Powerpoint Penetration

2004-11-29 Thread Bob Haroche
 Well, Office is undoubtedly got the market and I would assume that
logicall
 you can assume Powerpoint is as well..

That's a poor assumption to make. In my experience most corporate users have
Office installed but not the Powerpoint software. Partly that's because
PowerPoint isn't part of standard office, partly because most staff don't
have a need for it so it doesn't get purchased/installed for them.

I'd recommend searching the MS site for stats.


-
Regards,
Bob Haroche
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Re: Powerpoint Penetration

2004-11-29 Thread John Beynon
i dug around on MS for some stats but couldn't find any.

In the UK lots of companies are ditching MS Office in preference of
Star office/Open office - they still maintain compatibility and plus
there's an MS Powerpoint viewer if you don't have it installed,

jb.



On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:18:30 -0800, Bob Haroche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, Office is undoubtedly got the market and I would assume that
 logicall
  you can assume Powerpoint is as well..
 
 That's a poor assumption to make. In my experience most corporate users have
 Office installed but not the Powerpoint software. Partly that's because
 PowerPoint isn't part of standard office, partly because most staff don't
 have a need for it so it doesn't get purchased/installed for them.
 
 I'd recommend searching the MS site for stats.
 
 -
 Regards,
 Bob Haroche
 O n P o i n t  S o l u t i o n s
 www.OnPointSolutions.com
 
 
 

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Re: OT: Powerpoint Penetration

2004-11-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adrocknaphobia wrote:
 Does anyone have any numbers on the market penetration of MS Office /
 Powerpoint?

No. The only anecdote I have is that I replaced it with 
OpenOffice more then a year ago, and that I have recently 
discovered S5 which I like even more for simple presentations:
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/

Jochem

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Ali Awan
Thanks Sean,
And thanks to everyone else that has posted in this thread.

I really like Fusebox 4, and have been able to start converting my apps to 
that.  Now that I have the hang of that, I am able to at least read the Mach-II 
code and understand it a little better.

Thanks for all the links and info you posted, it's all beginning to make a lot 
more sense now.  I think I might check out the books you recommend on your site.

Ali
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:56:43 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  I'm still pretty fuzzy on the whole thing.  I still can't figure out 
 how to define listeners and events, in a way that makes sense for the 
 applications I write and work on.
 
 Perhaps the story of my migration from FB3 to Mach II will help you?
 
 http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machiirewrite
 
  For now I'll probably stick to Fusebox 4, and troll the lists you 
 mentioned to see if I get struck by lightning and it all makes sense 
 to me :)
 
 Well, that's certainly a good approach if you're not really
 comfortable with the whole OO thing... and I think Fusebox 4.1 is a
 great framework to use, BTW.
 -- 
 Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
 Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
 Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
 Got Gmail? -- I have 1 invite
 
 If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
 -- Margaret 
Atwood

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Brian Kotek
It might help to note that many of the same principles of OO
development with CFCs can be applied using Fusebox 4 as well as
Mach-II. People are starting to build fully abstracted object models
with CFCs. When they're built correctly, you can take that object
model and use it with Mach-II or Fusebox 4 (or both) without much
effort. The only thing that changes is the bridge between the
framework and the object model. In Mach-II, this bridge is the
Listener. In Fusebox, it is often a set of application-scoped manager
CFCs that take calls from the framework and feed them to your business
model CFCs.

I guess the point is, you can start honing your OO skills within
Fusebox 4 and then whenever you feel like it give Mach-II a try.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:32:40 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Sean,
 And thanks to everyone else that has posted in this thread.
 
 I really like Fusebox 4, and have been able to start converting my apps to 
 that.  Now that I have the hang of that, I am able to at least read the 
 Mach-II code and understand it a little better.
 
 Thanks for all the links and info you posted, it's all beginning to make a 
 lot more sense now.  I think I might check out the books you recommend on 
 your site.
 
 Ali
 
 
  On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:56:43 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   I'm still pretty fuzzy on the whole thing.  I still can't figure out
  how to define listeners and events, in a way that makes sense for the
  applications I write and work on.
 
  Perhaps the story of my migration from FB3 to Mach II will help you?
 
  http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machiirewrite
 
   For now I'll probably stick to Fusebox 4, and troll the lists you
  mentioned to see if I get struck by lightning and it all makes sense
  to me :)
 
  Well, that's certainly a good approach if you're not really
  comfortable with the whole OO thing... and I think Fusebox 4.1 is a
  great framework to use, BTW.
  --
  Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
  Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
  Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
  Got Gmail? -- I have 1 invite
 
  If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
  -- Margaret
 Atwood
 
 

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Alex Sherwood
Did you check out the OnTap framework?

http://www.fusiontap.com/docs/index.cfm


Ali Awan wrote:

Thanks Sean,
And thanks to everyone else that has posted in this thread.

I really like Fusebox 4, and have been able to start converting my apps to 
that.  Now that I have the hang of that, I am able to at least read the 
Mach-II code and understand it a little better.

Thanks for all the links and info you posted, it's all beginning to make a lot 
more sense now.  I think I might check out the books you recommend on your 
site.

Ali


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unable to create new native thread?

2004-11-29 Thread Phill B
I'm getting this error unable to create new native thread not the
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread.
Maybe they are the same? Regardless, I can't figure out what is
causing it or how to fix it.

I made sure the server is patched but I still get the error. 

-- 
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Re: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Simon Horwith
as far as I know, no, you can't designate one server instance to do 
this - though it'd be nice... in practice it's something the cluster 
manager handles.  But I've seen it first-hand in practice and have seen 
the stats shown in MM presentations as well.

~Simon

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Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:

Hey Simon, 

Yeah you mentioned this the other night in London but things went a bit awry
before I could ask you something ;-)  OK, with this theory, is this machine
which does the Garbage Collection nominated?

If it was, you could simply get a chunky machine to do all that.

N






-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2004 12:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mx hanging no available threads

I didn't see this mentioned yet so I thought I'd mention that running a 
CF Application in a J2EE environment using a server cluster tends to do 
wonderful things for garbage collection.  Essentially, one server in the 
cluster ends-up handling the garbage collection, thus allowing the other 
cluster members to continue servicing HTTP Requests without a 
significant performance degradation.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

  

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:448
)
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a:29
4)
  at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 














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RE: Mx hanging no available threads

2004-11-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Hmmm, yeah it would be nice, in fact it would be better than nicebut in
stats shmatsreal-world examples of Java output graphs showing true
Garbage Collection metrics is what we need ;-)







-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2004 16:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mx hanging no available threads

as far as I know, no, you can't designate one server instance to do 
this - though it'd be nice... in practice it's something the cluster 
manager handles.  But I've seen it first-hand in practice and have seen 
the stats shown in MM presentations as well.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:

Hey Simon, 

Yeah you mentioned this the other night in London but things went a bit
awry
before I could ask you something ;-)  OK, with this theory, is this machine
which does the Garbage Collection nominated?

If it was, you could simply get a chunky machine to do all that.

N






-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 November 2004 12:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mx hanging no available threads

I didn't see this mentioned yet so I thought I'd mention that running a 
CF Application in a J2EE environment using a server cluster tends to do 
wonderful things for garbage collection.  Essentially, one server in the 
cluster ends-up handling the garbage collection, thus allowing the other 
cluster members to continue servicing HTTP Requests without a 
significant performance degradation.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

  

With the metrics you've been doing, have you come to a conclusion as to
how to avoid this?  Are there better garbage collection flags to set up
with CFMX than what's running by default?   

I've seen a death of my server, but it's ended up manifesting itself in
arbitrary requests returning Jrun Connection Protocol Error, (some
threads return that, others work just fine)...  ultimately leading to a
Cannot connect to the Jrun Server (when cfmx just dies out)...

I have a pretty heavy load on the machine (600k hits a day or
thereabouts)  Any ideas would be appreciated...


Dov Katz

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mx hanging no available threads

Hmmm, we have been doing some very intensive metrics on servers like
these and what you are seeing it more than likely caused by Garbage
Collection.
What are the specs of the machines you are seeing this on?

N




-Original Message-
From: gabriel l smallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2004 16:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mx hanging no available threads

I just update my jvm to 1.4.2_6 and installed new drivers. After running
perfectly for about 4 days she hung up. I took a look in the
default-err.log to find a bunch of these

java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available
thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active
threads in the thread pool.
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:125)
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:448
)
  at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a:29
4)
  at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Has anyone encountered issues like this before?

gabe 
















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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Simon Horwith
I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps 
in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize 
proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want 
to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
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Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Brian Kotek wrote:

It might help to note that many of the same principles of OO
development with CFCs can be applied using Fusebox 4 as well as
Mach-II. People are starting to build fully abstracted object models
with CFCs. When they're built correctly, you can take that object
model and use it with Mach-II or Fusebox 4 (or both) without much
effort. The only thing that changes is the bridge between the
framework and the object model. In Mach-II, this bridge is the
Listener. In Fusebox, it is often a set of application-scoped manager
CFCs that take calls from the framework and feed them to your business
model CFCs.

I guess the point is, you can start honing your OO skills within
Fusebox 4 and then whenever you feel like it give Mach-II a try.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:32:40 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Thanks Sean,
And thanks to everyone else that has posted in this thread.

I really like Fusebox 4, and have been able to start converting my apps to 
that.  Now that I have the hang of that, I am able to at least read the 
Mach-II code and understand it a little better.

Thanks for all the links and info you posted, it's all beginning to make a 
lot more sense now.  I think I might check out the books you recommend on 
your site.

Ali




On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:56:43 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  

I'm still pretty fuzzy on the whole thing.  I still can't figure out


how to define listeners and events, in a way that makes sense for the
applications I write and work on.

Perhaps the story of my migration from FB3 to Mach II will help you?

http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machiirewrite

  

For now I'll probably stick to Fusebox 4, and troll the lists you


mentioned to see if I get struck by lightning and it all makes sense
to me :)

Well, that's certainly a good approach if you're not really
comfortable with the whole OO thing... and I think Fusebox 4.1 is a
great framework to use, BTW.
--
Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
Got Gmail? -- I have 1 invite

If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
-- Margaret
  

Atwood







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Corrupt form data:premature ending

2004-11-29 Thread Simon Whittaker
All,

Anyone seen the attached error before? Google not being as helpful as
I want it to be.

CFMX 6.1
Win2k professional
All updates etc

cheers

Simon


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Re: Corrupt form data:premature ending

2004-11-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Attachments not allowed...stick it in the message ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Brian Kotek
Naturally, as with any programming decision there is a tradeoff. In my
experience, unless you have a very specific performance requirement,
the benefits of a framework in terms of maintainability,
standardization, and team development outweigh the very small
performance hit.

That said, of course Simon is correct. A well-designed object model
will work just fine with Fusebox, Mach-II, some other framework, or no
framework at all.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:55:03 +, Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps
 in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize
 proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want
 to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.
 
 ~Simon
 
 Simon Horwith
 Member of Team Macromedia
 Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
 Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
 Blog - http://www.horwith.com
 
 
 
 
 Brian Kotek wrote:
 
 It might help to note that many of the same principles of OO
 development with CFCs can be applied using Fusebox 4 as well as
 Mach-II. People are starting to build fully abstracted object models
 with CFCs. When they're built correctly, you can take that object
 model and use it with Mach-II or Fusebox 4 (or both) without much
 effort. The only thing that changes is the bridge between the
 framework and the object model. In Mach-II, this bridge is the
 Listener. In Fusebox, it is often a set of application-scoped manager
 CFCs that take calls from the framework and feed them to your business
 model CFCs.
 
 I guess the point is, you can start honing your OO skills within
 Fusebox 4 and then whenever you feel like it give Mach-II a try.
 
 
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:32:40 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Sean,
 And thanks to everyone else that has posted in this thread.
 
 I really like Fusebox 4, and have been able to start converting my apps to 
 that.  Now that I have the hang of that, I am able to at least read the 
 Mach-II code and understand it a little better.
 
 Thanks for all the links and info you posted, it's all beginning to make a 
 lot more sense now.  I think I might check out the books you recommend on 
 your site.
 
 Ali
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:56:43 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 I'm still pretty fuzzy on the whole thing.  I still can't figure out
 
 
 how to define listeners and events, in a way that makes sense for the
 applications I write and work on.
 
 Perhaps the story of my migration from FB3 to Mach II will help you?
 
 http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machiirewrite
 
 
 
 For now I'll probably stick to Fusebox 4, and troll the lists you
 
 
 mentioned to see if I get struck by lightning and it all makes sense
 to me :)
 
 Well, that's certainly a good approach if you're not really
 comfortable with the whole OO thing... and I think Fusebox 4.1 is a
 great framework to use, BTW.
 --
 Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
 Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
 Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
 Got Gmail? -- I have 1 invite
 
 If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
 -- Margaret
 
 
 Atwood
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Mark Drew
I agree



On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:55:03 +, Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps
 in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize
 proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want
 to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.
 
 ~Simon
 
 Simon Horwith
 Member of Team Macromedia
 Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
 Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
 Blog - http://www.horwith.com
 
 
 
 
 Brian Kotek wrote:
 
 It might help to note that many of the same principles of OO
 development with CFCs can be applied using Fusebox 4 as well as
 Mach-II. People are starting to build fully abstracted object models
 with CFCs. When they're built correctly, you can take that object
 model and use it with Mach-II or Fusebox 4 (or both) without much
 effort. The only thing that changes is the bridge between the
 framework and the object model. In Mach-II, this bridge is the
 Listener. In Fusebox, it is often a set of application-scoped manager
 CFCs that take calls from the framework and feed them to your business
 model CFCs.
 
 I guess the point is, you can start honing your OO skills within
 Fusebox 4 and then whenever you feel like it give Mach-II a try.
 
 
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:32:40 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Sean,
 And thanks to everyone else that has posted in this thread.
 
 I really like Fusebox 4, and have been able to start converting my apps to 
 that.  Now that I have the hang of that, I am able to at least read the 
 Mach-II code and understand it a little better.
 
 Thanks for all the links and info you posted, it's all beginning to make a 
 lot more sense now.  I think I might check out the books you recommend on 
 your site.
 
 Ali
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:56:43 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 I'm still pretty fuzzy on the whole thing.  I still can't figure out
 
 
 how to define listeners and events, in a way that makes sense for the
 applications I write and work on.
 
 Perhaps the story of my migration from FB3 to Mach II will help you?
 
 http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machiirewrite
 
 
 
 For now I'll probably stick to Fusebox 4, and troll the lists you
 
 
 mentioned to see if I get struck by lightning and it all makes sense
 to me :)
 
 Well, that's certainly a good approach if you're not really
 comfortable with the whole OO thing... and I think Fusebox 4.1 is a
 great framework to use, BTW.
 --
 Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
 Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
 Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
 Got Gmail? -- I have 1 invite
 
 If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
 -- Margaret
 
 
 Atwood
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Ali Awan
Simon,

Thanks for your input.
I do believe you are right.  However, the company I work for is looking to 
adopt a widely used methodology, so that we can implement some sort of best 
practices and maintain consistency amongst our developers and applications.

Since I was familiar with Fusebox that seemed the natural way for me to go, and 
then I took a look at Mach-II and that seemed even better.

Then my next logical step was to get familiar with them as much as possible and 
see which one to adopt and then start converting our CF5 apps over.  So I 
turned to my respected friends an colleagues on this list to aid me in this 
endeavor :)

So far I am quite pleased at how this discussion is turning out.
Cheers!
I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps 
in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize 
proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want 
to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




Brian Kotek wrote:



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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Brian Kotek
Naturally, as with any programming decision there is a tradeoff. In my
experience, unless you have a very specific performance requirement,
the benefits of a framework in terms of maintainability,
standardization, and team development outweigh the very small
performance hit.

That said, of course Simon is correct. A well-designed object model
will work just fine with Fusebox, Mach-II, some other framework, or no
framework at all.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:55:03 +, Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps
 in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize
 proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want
 to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.
 
 ~Simon


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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Brian Kotek
Sorry for the duplicate post...the listserver scolded me for not
trimming previous replies so I thought the message hadn't gone
through.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:15:55 -0500, Brian Kotek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Naturally, as with any programming decision there is a tradeoff. In my
 experience, unless you have a very specific performance requirement,
 the benefits of a framework in terms of maintainability,
 standardization, and team development outweigh the very small
 performance hit.
 
 That said, of course Simon is correct. A well-designed object model
 will work just fine with Fusebox, Mach-II, some other framework, or no
 framework at all.


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updater versions

2004-11-29 Thread Mark A Kruger
What's the easiest way to determine the updater status of a cfmx
installation?  In the system information I have:

Server Product
   ColdFusion MX

Version
   6,1,0,hf54464_61

Edition
   Standard




Which would indicate 6.1 with a hf 54464_61 (which I cannot find on the MM
site).

I'd like to know what updater (if any) has been run and what hot fixes (if
any) have been run post updater. Is there a log somewhere?

-Mark


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Re: ColdFusion page with .asp extension???

2004-11-29 Thread Barney Boisvert
The .asp filter in CF is catching it everywhere, even on the site
without the mapping in IIS.  You'll have to disconnect CF from the
site that uses real ASP.  I'm not an IIS guru, so I don't know how to
do it, or even if it's possible.

cheers,
barneyb

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:19:48 -0500, Johnny Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am using IIS 6.  I have one ASP site, and now I have a ColdFusion site.
 However, the ColdFusion pages needs to have extension .asp.  So I went to
 the Mappings tab in the IIS to give .asp extension the ColdFusion dll.  I
 also went to ColdFusion's web.xml to add the .asp extension in.  Everything
 works well. The ASP pages now process as ColdFusion pages.
 
 One problem: all the real asp pages now don't work even though I separated
 them as two different sites in the IIS.
 
 So my question is: Is there a way to separate the two sites? One site
 processes the real asp pages.  The other site processes the ColdFusion .asp
 pages?
 Thanks.
 
 Johnny
 

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OT-looking for some packages

2004-11-29 Thread Eric Creese
Looking for some asp based community type packages to bolt on to our website. 
Looking for soemthing that offers polls and surveys, blogs, submit questions, 
search engine capabilities, calander of events, quiz and tests. 

This may not be something in an all enclusive package so if you know of pieces 
of the package that can be easily put together I would appreciate it as well.

Eric


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Re: CF and Gantt charts

2004-11-29 Thread Barney Boisvert
 In
 the future, a Flash SWF that parses SVG XML could easily be written to
 use the API.

Is any such thing available anywhere?  I'd LOVE to be able to display
SVG in Flash format, and have been looking for this type of thing for
at least a couple years, but to no avail.

cheers,
barneyb

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:50:45 +, Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gantt charts are a bit beyond what you can do with CFCHART.  I've
 recently presented about (at mini MAX) and written a prototype Gantt
 chart custom tag API.  There will also be an article about it in the
 January issue of CFDJ.  I plan to make the code available after I've
 tidied it up a bit (remember - I just built a prototype though it is
 very flexible for one) but if you want to email me off-list, I'll gladly
 send you a copy toplay with.  Due to the cost and time requirements, I
 implemented SVG for the API.  I would have prefered Flash Gantt Charts,
 but there was no time to develop a generic Flash SWF to render them.  In
 the future, a Flash SWF that parses SVG XML could easily be written to
 use the API.
 
 ~Simon
 
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Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Andy Mcshane
Starting to update a site by converting code to CFC's, anyone have any thoughts 
on what is the best or most efficient way to access a CFC? Is it better to use 
CFInvoke or should I use CreateObject? Which method is better and why?

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Aaron Rouse
Are you converting them to just learn the methodology so that you can
apply it to new applications or for some other reason?  Just curious
as to why the need to convert already running applications.

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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:22:15 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Then my next logical step was to get familiar with them as much as possible 
 and see which one to adopt and then start converting our CF5 apps over.  So I 
 turned to my respected friends an colleagues on this list to aid me in this 
 endeavor :)


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CF 6.1 on Linux

2004-11-29 Thread JB McMichael
I just installed 6.1 on a Mandrake 10 server.  This isn't the first
mandrake server I have done this on.  The install went fine, all of
the files appear to be in order, but when I give the command to start
cf, I get this

Error: could not find libjava.so
Error: could not find JRE
Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment.

So I went to /opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/jre/lib/i386/ and libjava.so is
there, along with all of the other java related files.  So then I
checked /opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/bin/jvm.config for its java.home
setting, and that is set to

java.home=/opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/jre

And that appears to be fine.  Is there something else I can check for?

Thanks,
JB

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Browser Session spawn

2004-11-29 Thread G C
Application:
An application where you can administer a  number of companies and their users. 

The issues:
You login to Company1 and click on User1 opening a different window. Now you 
need to open User2 from Company2. So in the Company1 browser you go to Company2 
while leaving User1 window open. Now you open up User2 with its own set of 
session variables.
 
So you now have:
Original window has Company2 session variables.
AND
User1 window has its own session variables 
AND 
User2 window has its own session variables. 

Should I not be able to use any one of those windows sessions independently of 
each other? User1 window is of course trying to use User2 session variables. 
And we cant have User1 accessing any of User2's session variables.

Can someone let me know how I can get CF server to dole out another session to 
a spawned window that will allow 2 even 3 sessions on the same box. Is this at 
all possible?

Thanks in advance,

GCruz


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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:39:35 -0400, Andy Mcshane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Starting to update a site by converting code to CFC's, anyone have any 
 thoughts on what is the best or most efficient way to access a CFC? Is it 
 better to use CFInvoke or should I use CreateObject? Which method is better 
 and why?
 

They're effectively the same thing, except you'd use createObject if
you're a cfscript fan and the tag-based cfinvoke if you're not.

If you are new or relatively new to CFCs, be sure to check out this
document which is a community-driven best practices document for
working with them:

http://www.dintenfass.com/cfcbestpractices/

Regards,
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Disabled server options question

2004-11-29 Thread Yves Arsenault
Hello,

I'm currently working on a small project with CF 6.1, the server is a
shared hosting environment.

Is there any server variable that would show me if any functions or
tags are disabled?

Or is the phone call the only way to go?

Thanks,

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Re: updater versions

2004-11-29 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:32:03 -0600, Mark A Kruger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What's the easiest way to determine the updater status of a cfmx
 installation?  In the system information I have:
 
 Server Product
ColdFusion MX
 
 Version
6,1,0,hf54464_61
 
 Edition
Standard
 
 Which would indicate 6.1 with a hf 54464_61 (which I cannot find on the MM
 site).
 
 I'd like to know what updater (if any) has been run and what hot fixes (if
 any) have been run post updater. Is there a log somewhere?
 

Well, the latest version is 6,1,0,83762 (officially: ColdFusion MX
with Updater 1). You can log in to the Administrator and click on the
System Information link along the top navigation bar to get more
details.

Your version has a hotfix in the classpath. Before we upgraded to U1,
we had a version like yours (because of a session replication hotfix
that was distributed to us). However, if you install U1, then you
should remove all previous hotfixes from your /servers/lib directory
and any other places in your classpath because the rollup contains
them. After that, you should check out the URL below to apply the 3
new hotfixes issues since the U1 release (though I would be extremely
careful about the 10/19 hotfix -- it only applies if you're using JRun
4 Updater 3):

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn17883.htm

Hope this helps?

Regards,
Dave.

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Error page when CFMX is down?

2004-11-29 Thread Damien McKenna
Is there any way to have the ColdFusion MX server or IIS display a
generic error page if the ColdFusion task is not started or is not
responding?  I'm not really sure it is, but I wanted to check with the
experts first before dismissing the idea.  Thanks.
 
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Licensing a CF app

2004-11-29 Thread Tom McNeer
Hi,

I have a client whose application we have developed over the past 
three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, 
taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data.

He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a 
private installation of the application running on the customer's own 
network.

My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his 
application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that 
can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year 
-- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay 
his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled.

Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly 
secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the 
list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to 
some extent.
-- 

Thanks,



Tom


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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Alex Sherwood
But I though FuseBox 4 and FuseDoc files were supposed to make your apps 
faster, particularly because you put your queries in a file that ends 
with .QRY.

Not to mention putting your HTML in .DSP files..this will really 
start to heat up the compartmentalization factor in your application 
architecture.

--

Alex

Simon Horwith wrote:

I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps 
in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize 
proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want 
to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.

~Simon

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Re: Licensing a CF app

2004-11-29 Thread Mark Drew
Check out New Atlanta's blue dragon, I believe you can do it with this
currently. I think the new version of Coldfusion will let you create
compiled versions of an application that you can licence

Regards

Mark Drew


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:05:49 -0500, Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a client whose application we have developed over the past
 three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers,
 taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data.
 
 He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a
 private installation of the application running on the customer's own
 network.
 
 My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his
 application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that
 can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year
 -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay
 his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled.
 
 Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly
 secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the
 list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to
 some extent.
 --
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tom
 
 Tom McNeer
 MediumCool
A Marketing, Creative and Construction Company
for the World Wide Web
 
 530 Means St NW, Suite 110
 Atlanta, GA 30318
 
 404-589-0560
 FAX 404-589-0510
 
 http://www.mediumcool.com
 
 

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Re: Licensing a CF app

2004-11-29 Thread Mark Drew
I was looking for the link:
http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/isv.cfm


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:24:29 +0100, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out New Atlanta's blue dragon, I believe you can do it with this
 currently. I think the new version of Coldfusion will let you create
 compiled versions of an application that you can licence
 
 Regards
 
 Mark Drew
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:05:49 -0500, Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a client whose application we have developed over the past
  three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers,
  taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data.
 
  He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a
  private installation of the application running on the customer's own
  network.
 
  My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his
  application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that
  can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year
  -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay
  his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled.
 
  Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly
  secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the
  list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to
  some extent.
  --
 
  Thanks,
 
  Tom
 
  Tom McNeer
  MediumCool
 A Marketing, Creative and Construction Company
 for the World Wide Web
 
  530 Means St NW, Suite 110
  Atlanta, GA 30318
 
  404-589-0560
  FAX 404-589-0510
 
  http://www.mediumcool.com
 
  

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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Barney Boisvert
CFINVOKE and createObject are very different beasts.  CFOBJECT and
createObject are the same, but CFINVOKE creates and instance of the
CFC, calls the specified method on it, and then lets the instance
disappear, with no hope of holding on to it for future reuse.

Here's two examples of creating an object instance:
cfset i = createObject(component, test) /
cfobject action=create type=component name=i class=test /

And here's two examples of calling a method on a CFC, without creating
an instance:
cfset r = createObject(component, test).testMethod() /
cfinvoke component=test method=testMethod returnvariable=r /

cheers,
barneyb

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:47:24 -0500, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:39:35 -0400, Andy Mcshane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Starting to update a site by converting code to CFC's, anyone have any 
  thoughts on what is the best or most efficient way to access a CFC? Is it 
  better to use CFInvoke or should I use CreateObject? Which method is 
  better and why?
 
 
 They're effectively the same thing, except you'd use createObject if
 you're a cfscript fan and the tag-based cfinvoke if you're not.
 
 If you are new or relatively new to CFCs, be sure to check out this
 document which is a community-driven best practices document for
 working with them:
 
 http://www.dintenfass.com/cfcbestpractices/
 
 Regards,
 Dave.
 
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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Kwang Suh
I don't find MachII in the least bit un-performant.

I also have a very large FB4 that runs hunky dory as well.

I'd love to see some proof of your claims.

I only feel it's my duty to mention that you can still develop CF Apps 
in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize 
proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.  I don't want 
to open a can of worms here, but thought I'd point it out.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
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Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




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Re: Error page when CFMX is down?

2004-11-29 Thread Nathan Strutz
You can replace the Could not connecto to JRun page with your own page 
by editing the wsconfig\#\jrun.ini, uncomment the errorurl line and 
point it to an HTML page.

Other than that, if your server is not responding, you can probably have 
it running through some sort of hardware load balancing device and 
output or redirect on errors.

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 Is there any way to have the ColdFusion MX server or IIS display a
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CF and Databases

2004-11-29 Thread Jason Smith
I have a client that has access backend for his cf application, when trying 
to run a query for a report that checks for item status the page always 
times out never will load. The query works on other reports with no 
problem. There are about 1500 products in the field and the status id is 
numerical from 1-10.

Now myself personally I would never use an access database for this type of 
work I would prefer to use mysql but I don't have that choice. So if anyone 
is familiar with cf/access or know of any issues that have to do with 
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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:29:26 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CFINVOKE and createObject are very different beasts.  CFOBJECT and
 createObject are the same, but CFINVOKE creates and instance of the
 CFC, calls the specified method on it, and then lets the instance
 disappear, with no hope of holding on to it for future reuse.

Unless you specify a component *reference* in cfinvoke rather than a
component name:

cfset t = createObject(component, test) /
cfinvoke component=#t# method=testMethod returnvariable=r /
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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Claude Schneegans
that you can still develop CF Apps
in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize
proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.

Exact, and I would even add that utilises NO OO technique, and it will even be 
faster to develop,
and perform even better.

I recently had to add some features in a FB application, it was including more 
than 100 files and it took me hours to find the one I had to modify to do the 
job.
This is how a good willing concept is finally having the oposite result it is 
intended to.

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Kwang Suh
I've had to add features to a regular CF app that took me DAYS, because the 
idiots that made it couldn't code to save their lives.

This is how a good willing concept is finally having the oposite result it is 
intended to.

 that you can still develop CF Apps
 in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize
 proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.
 
 Exact, and I would even add that utilises NO OO technique, and it 
 will even be faster to develop,
 and perform even better.
 
 I recently had to add some features in a FB application, it was 
 including more than 100 files and it took me hours to find the one I 
 had to modify to do the job.
 This is how a good willing concept is finally having the oposite 
 result it is intended to.
 
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RE: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Steve Brownlee
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but a good, solid, well-designed
object oriented methodology will always beat spaghetti code.  FuseBox is a
methodology, but it is not OO.  Let's be clear on that point.

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

that you can still develop CF Apps
in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize proper OO
techniques... and that perform better, as well.

Exact, and I would even add that utilises NO OO technique, and it will even
be faster to develop, and perform even better.

I recently had to add some features in a FB application, it was including
more than 100 files and it took me hours to find the one I had to modify to
do the job.
This is how a good willing concept is finally having the oposite result it is
intended to.

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RE: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Why would you do that?

-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield.

Unless you specify a component *reference* in cfinvoke rather than a
component name:

cfset t = createObject(component, test) /
cfinvoke component=#t# method=testMethod returnvariable=r /
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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Brian Kotek
That may be your opinion, but the stark reality is that
object-orientation has taken over the vast majority of the programming
world. In my opinion, not embracing this change is basically career
suicide.

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:49:30 -0500, Claude Schneegans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exact, and I would even add that utilises NO OO technique, and it will even 
 be faster to develop, and perform even better.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:49:30 -0500, Claude Schneegans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that you can still develop CF Apps
 in a timely menner without the use of FB or MACH II that do utilize
 proper OO techniques... and that perform better, as well.
 
 Exact, and I would even add that utilises NO OO technique, and it will even 
 be faster to develop,
 and perform even better.
 
 I recently had to add some features in a FB application, it was including 
 more than 100 files and it took me hours to find the one I had to modify to 
 do the job.
 This is how a good willing concept is finally having the oposite result it is 
 intended to.
 
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Re: Licensing a CF app

2004-11-29 Thread Aaron DC
A suggestion:

depends how open that client's network is, but you could include a couple of
well-placed CFC calls to your own server that validate the license
information you also incorporate into the code.

If they remove the CFC calls, the app can bomb out - ie make the CFC do some
action/return some result that is useful.

You could also deploy a CFX tag (hence compiled) that processes the result,
allowing you to hide any decryption / processing logic from prying eyes.

Aaron

- Original Message -
From: Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:05 AM
Subject: Licensing a CF app


 Hi,

 I have a client whose application we have developed over the past
 three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers,
 taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data.

 He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a
 private installation of the application running on the customer's own
 network.

 My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his
 application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that
 can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year
 -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay
 his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled.

 Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly
 secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the
 list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to
 some extent.



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Re: Licensing a CF app

2004-11-29 Thread Doug James
You might check out: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/index.cfm

I don't know anything about the application, I just have the bookmark.

Doug James
IT Developer
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Tom McNeer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a client whose application we have developed over the past 
 three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, 
 taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data.
 
 He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a 
 private installation of the application running on the customer's own 
 network.
 
 My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his 
 application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that 
 can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year 
 -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay 
 his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled.
 
 Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly 
 secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the 
 list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to 
 some extent.

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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Barney Boisvert
Sure enough.  Can you tell I've never used CFOBJECT or CFINVOKE, ever?

I'm curious.  Why would you want to type this:

cfinvoke component=#o# method=testMethod returnvariable=r
  cfinvokeargument ... /
  
/cfinvoke

as opposed to this:

cfset r = o.testMethod(
  ...
) /

I know you hate my i have lazy fingers argument, but where's the
downside in this case?

cheers,
barneyb

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:49:44 -0800, Sean Corfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:29:26 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  CFINVOKE and createObject are very different beasts.  CFOBJECT and
  createObject are the same, but CFINVOKE creates and instance of the
  CFC, calls the specified method on it, and then lets the instance
  disappear, with no hope of holding on to it for future reuse.
 
 Unless you specify a component *reference* in cfinvoke rather than a
 component name:
 
 cfset t = createObject(component, test) /
 cfinvoke component=#t# method=testMethod returnvariable=r /
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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Aaron Rouse
Idiots can make anything hard to change though.  We have our own
framework here, I hate dealing with it but I also understand the
reasonings behind having it.  There have been times when I had to go
in and resolve something someone else was attempting to do and it took
me hours or even days to get the task done and all because idiots
were in it prior.

-- 
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:56:37 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've had to add features to a regular CF app that took me DAYS, because the 
 idiots that made it couldn't code to save their lives.
 
 


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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Brian Kotek
I'd call Fusebox a framework more than a methodology (FLiP is the
methodology commonly used to support Fusebox projects). And while the
framework code itself is not OO (where Mach-II is), you can easily
build CFC-based object models that fully follow OO principles and
leverage them in a Fusebox application.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:57:45 -0800, Steve Brownlee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but a good, solid, well-designed
 object oriented methodology will always beat spaghetti code.  FuseBox is a
 methodology, but it is not OO.  Let's be clear on that point.


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Re: Licensing a CF app

2004-11-29 Thread dave
you can always make one of their graphics in a flash then have it call a page 
on yours or their server to check and see if its valid
if not forward it to a disabled page. To check it can be a text file or have it 
do a query. On my sites i have it call a query on my site to check, so i just 
keep the sites up to date in 1 place


-- Original Message --
From: Doug James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:04:50 -0500

You might check out: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/index.cfm

I don't know anything about the application, I just have the bookmark.

Doug James
IT Developer
Hollings Cancer Center
http://hcc.musc.edu

Tom McNeer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a client whose application we have developed over the past 
 three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, 
 taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data.
 
 He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a 
 private installation of the application running on the customer's own 
 network.
 
 My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his 
 application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that 
 can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year 
 -- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay 
 his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled.
 
 Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly 
 secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the 
 list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to 
 some extent.



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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Joe Rinehart
If you're component is stateful, you'll want to invoke methods on the
same instance of the component instead of continually creating new
instances.

!--- Instantiate a component that adds two numbers ---
cfset myAdder = createObject(component, addsTwoNumbers) /

!--- Set first number ---
cfinvoke 
   component=#myAdder# 
   method=setNumberOne 
   cfinvokeargument 
  name=number 
  value=2
/cfinvoke

!--- Set second number ---
cfinvoke 
   component=#myAdder# 
   method=setNumberTwo 
   cfinvokeargument 
  name=number 
  value=3
/cfinvoke

!--- Get sum ---
cfinvoke 
   component=#myAdder# 
   method=getSum
   returnVariable=sum 
/cfinvoke

!--- Displays five ---
cfoutput#sum#/cfoutput

There's a few different ways to write thisI'd probably use:

cfset myAdder = createObject(component, addsTwoNumbers) /
cfset myAdder.SetNumberOne(2) /
cfset myAdder.SetNumberTwo(3) /
cfoutput#myAdder.getSum()#/cfoutput

-joe


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would you do that?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Corfield.
 
 Unless you specify a component *reference* in cfinvoke rather than a
 component name:
 
 cfset t = createObject(component, test) /
 cfinvoke component=#t# method=testMethod returnvariable=r /
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Re: unable to create new native thread?

2004-11-29 Thread Phill B
Anyone have any idea what would be causing this? It happens about once
a week so I need to try and find some sort of solution.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:39:12 -0600, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm getting this error unable to create new native thread not the
 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread.
 Maybe they are the same? Regardless, I can't figure out what is
 causing it or how to fix it.
 
 I made sure the server is patched but I still get the error.
 
 --
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RE: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Damien McKenna
 I recently had to add some features in a FB application, it 
 was including more than 100 files and it took me hours to 
 find the one I had to modify to do the job.

I took over several FB3 apps and I must say that it has made my life
much easier that they were developed using a simple framework like
Fusebox than if it had been a random-bunch-of-files.

Just my experience.
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invalid number?

2004-11-29 Thread Daniel Kessler
I had this working fine one morning and checked it on all computers. 
I come in another morning and it's not working - I swear.  It's 
giving me the error, invalid number and lists the WHERE in the 
query as the line culprit.  I have the same query where I added the 
line to there WHERE:
marathon_id = #cookie.vancouver_walk# AND
and this seems to work fine, but I don't want to specify an ID, 
instead querying for everyone, so this query doesn't have it.

cfset first_day = createDate(URL.yr,URL.mo,URL.day)
cfset last_day = dateAdd(d,6,first_day)
cfset the_num_days = 0
cfset the_num_steps = 0

cfloop index=zz from=1 to=#the_week#
!-- return values for the week --
   CFQUERY NAME=get_gweek_totals DATASOURCE=dpch
SELECT Sum(entry) AS num_steps,Count(entry) AS num_days
FROM marathon_entries
WHERE entry_type = 'vancouver_walk' AND
   entry_data_date = #first_day# AND entry_data_date = #last_day#
   /CFQuery
   cfset first_day = dateAdd(d,7,first_day)
   cfset last_day = dateAdd(d,6,first_day)
   cfset header=Week #zz#
tr
   td#header#/td
   td width=20% 
align=right#NumberFormat(get_gweek_totals.num_steps,',')#/td
   cfset g_av_steps = 0
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_days NEQ 0 
 cfset g_av_steps = 
Int((get_gweek_totals.num_steps/get_gweek_totals.num_days))
   /cfif
   td width=20% align=right#NumberFormat(g_av_steps,',')#/td
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_steps EQ cfset 
get_gweek_totals.num_steps = 0/cfif
   td width=20% 
align=right#NumberFormat((get_gweek_totals.num_steps * 
2.25)/5280,'___._')#/td
/tr
   cfset the_num_days = the_num_days + get_gweek_totals.num_days
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_steps EQ cfset 
get_gweek_totals.num_steps = 0/cfif
   cfset the_num_steps = the_num_steps + get_gweek_totals.num_steps
/cfloop
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Re: Licensing a CF app

2004-11-29 Thread Phil Cruz
Hi,

I have a client whose application we have developed over the past 
three years. It operates as a web-based services for his customers, 
taking data entry and displaying calculated analysis of the data.

He now has a customer who, for security reasons, wishes to have a 
private installation of the application running on the customer's own 
network.

My client has asked me if there is any way we can secure his 
application, meaning Can we make it like a compiled desktop app that 
can't work without a license key, and can be timed out after a year 
-- both so it cannot be copied and so, if the customer does not pay 
his yearly licensing fee, the application could be disabled.

Since this a ColdFusion app, I know that there is no way to truly 
secure it in the manner he wishes. But I wondered if anyone on the 
list had any similar experiences, or any thoughts on securing it to 
some extent.
-- 

Thanks,

Tom

Yes, you can do this in a truly secure manner just as your customer wishes.   
The Tracking Tools demo(www.tracking-tools.com) is an example of an app 
packaged to run as a desktop app.  It uses BlueDragon.

Dick Applebaum and I are working on an article that describes how to do this in 
detail.  I'll post back when it's available (later in December).

-Phil

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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Ali Awan
Well, we're not necessarily going to convert all our applications.
I am learning the methodology, so that we have consistency in our apps and a 
best practices in place.  I would like to use the methodology on all future 
apps.

I may convert one or two to get a better handle on the methodology.  But 
ideally I would prefer to learn it before I start coding.


 Are you converting them to just learn the methodology so that you can
 apply it to new applications or for some other reason?  Just curious
 as to why the need to convert already running applications.
 
 -- 
 Aaron Rouse
 http://www.happyhacker.com/
 
 
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:22:15 -0400, Ali Awan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  Then my next logical step was to get familiar with them as much as 
 possible and see which one to adopt and then start converting our CF5 
 apps over.  So I turned to my respected friends an colleagues on this 
 list to aid me in this endeavor :)


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RE: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Why wouldn't I just state:

CFSET myAdder.setNumberOne(Number=2) /

This seems much more readable.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Joe Rinehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Best way to access CFC's?


If you're component is stateful, you'll want to invoke methods on the
same instance of the component instead of continually creating new
instances.

!--- Instantiate a component that adds two numbers ---
cfset myAdder = createObject(component, addsTwoNumbers) /

!--- Set first number ---
cfinvoke
   component=#myAdder#
   method=setNumberOne
   cfinvokeargument
  name=number
  value=2
/cfinvoke

!--- Set second number ---
cfinvoke
   component=#myAdder#
   method=setNumberTwo
   cfinvokeargument
  name=number

  value=3
/cfinvoke

!--- Get sum ---
cfinvoke
   component=#myAdder#
   method=getSum
   returnVariable=sum
/cfinvoke

!--- Displays five ---
cfoutput#sum#/cfoutput

There's a few different ways to write thisI'd probably use:

cfset myAdder = createObject(component, addsTwoNumbers) /
cfset myAdder.SetNumberOne(2) /
cfset myAdder.SetNumberTwo(3) /
cfoutput#myAdder.getSum()#/cfoutput

-joe


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:59:01 -0600, Andy Ousterhout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would you do that?



 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Corfield.

 Unless you specify a component *reference* in cfinvoke rather than a
 component name:

 cfset t = createObject(component, test) /
 cfinvoke component=#t# method=testMethod returnvariable=r /
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Incremental CFCONTENT?

2004-11-29 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
Can I pipe out parts of pages using CFCONTENT?   I currently have an
cache_to_file tag which I wrote to cache parts of rendered pages to
file.
 
Right now I (inefficiently) CFFILE-Read them, then #output# the
contents.  What I'd like to do is  CFCONTENT them directly to the
response output stream.
 
Can I pipe them to the output by using CFCONTENT?  My goal is to
basically CFINCLUDE  but i dont want to compile the include file, just
pipe it to the browser, and it's part of the renderable page...
 
Thanks!
-dov
 
My code would look like this
 
 
htmlheadbody
CFCONTENT file=header-static-html.txt
 
yada yada yada
CFCONTENT file=footer-static.txt
yada
/body/html 

 
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Re: invalid number?

2004-11-29 Thread daniel kessler
I figured out the problem. I had allowed the numbers to be entered with commas, 
making them strings.  I changed all of them to items without commas and they 
worked. ie 2,373 became 2373.  So I didn't see a convertToNumber call.   Am I 
missing something in my headless rush through the day?

I had this working fine one morning and checked it on all computers. 
I come in another morning and it's not working - I swear.  It's 
giving me the error, invalid number and lists the WHERE in the 
query as the line culprit.  I have the same query where I added the 
line to there WHERE:
marathon_id = #cookie.vancouver_walk# AND
and this seems to work fine, but I don't want to specify an ID, 
instead querying for everyone, so this query doesn't have it.

cfset first_day = createDate(URL.yr,URL.mo,URL.day)
cfset last_day = dateAdd(d,6,first_day)
cfset the_num_days = 0
cfset the_num_steps = 0

cfloop index=zz from=1 to=#the_week#
!-- return values for the week --
   CFQUERY NAME=get_gweek_totals DATASOURCE=dpch
SELECT Sum(entry) AS num_steps,Count(entry) AS num_days
FROM marathon_entries
WHERE entry_type = 'vancouver_walk' AND
   entry_data_date = #first_day# AND entry_data_date = #last_day#
   /CFQuery
   cfset first_day = dateAdd(d,7,first_day)
   cfset last_day = dateAdd(d,6,first_day)
   cfset header=Week #zz#
tr
   td#header#/td
   td width=20% 
align=right#NumberFormat(get_gweek_totals.num_steps,',')#/td
   cfset g_av_steps = 0
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_days NEQ 0 
 cfset g_av_steps = 
Int((get_gweek_totals.num_steps/get_gweek_totals.num_days))
   /cfif
   td width=20% align=right#NumberFormat(g_av_steps,',')#/td
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_steps EQ cfset 
get_gweek_totals.num_steps = 0/cfif
   td width=20% 
align=right#NumberFormat((get_gweek_totals.num_steps * 
2.25)/5280,'___._')#/td
/tr
   cfset the_num_days = the_num_days + get_gweek_totals.num_days
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_steps EQ cfset 
get_gweek_totals.num_steps = 0/cfif
   cfset the_num_steps = the_num_steps + get_gweek_totals.num_steps
/cfloop
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Department of Public and Community Health
University of Maryland
Suite 2387 Valley Drive
College Park, MD  20742-2611
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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Matthew Drayer
We started off writing all our component method calls inline -- ie: 
component.method(argument1, argument2), but we quickly found that

1. It was sometimes hard to follow what was going on due to the squished up  
nature of the code.

2. Having to maintain the proper order of argument declaration was a pain in 
the neck.

So, we switched over to using cfinvoke for almost all of our method calls.  
It lends a little flexibility to the developer, and helps to make the code 
self-documenting.

We do still have some component method calls done the inline way, but they are 
typically argument-less methods used in cfif tags, etc.: 

cfif server.hcpro.isCustomerSubscribed()
  DO STUFF
/cfif

Matt

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Re: invalid number?

2004-11-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Look into the IN clause

ID IN (cfqueryparam value=MyListOfIDs cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer 
list=yes)

Cheers

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- Original Message - 
From: daniel kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: invalid number?


I figured out the problem. I had allowed the numbers to be entered with 
commas, making them strings.  I changed all of them to items without commas 
and they worked. ie 2,373 became 2373.  So I didn't see a convertToNumber 
call.   Am I missing something in my headless rush through the day?

I had this working fine one morning and checked it on all computers.
I come in another morning and it's not working - I swear.  It's
giving me the error, invalid number and lists the WHERE in the
query as the line culprit.  I have the same query where I added the
line to there WHERE:
marathon_id = #cookie.vancouver_walk# AND
and this seems to work fine, but I don't want to specify an ID,
instead querying for everyone, so this query doesn't have it.

cfset first_day = createDate(URL.yr,URL.mo,URL.day)
cfset last_day = dateAdd(d,6,first_day)
cfset the_num_days = 0
cfset the_num_steps = 0

cfloop index=zz from=1 to=#the_week#
!-- return values for the week --
   CFQUERY NAME=get_gweek_totals DATASOURCE=dpch
SELECT Sum(entry) AS num_steps,Count(entry) AS num_days
FROM marathon_entries
WHERE entry_type = 'vancouver_walk' AND
   entry_data_date = #first_day# AND entry_data_date = #last_day#
   /CFQuery
   cfset first_day = dateAdd(d,7,first_day)
   cfset last_day = dateAdd(d,6,first_day)
   cfset header=Week #zz#
tr
   td#header#/td
   td width=20%
align=right#NumberFormat(get_gweek_totals.num_steps,',')#/td
   cfset g_av_steps = 0
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_days NEQ 0 
 cfset g_av_steps =
Int((get_gweek_totals.num_steps/get_gweek_totals.num_days))
   /cfif
   td width=20% align=right#NumberFormat(g_av_steps,',')#/td
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_steps EQ cfset
get_gweek_totals.num_steps = 0/cfif
   td width=20%
align=right#NumberFormat((get_gweek_totals.num_steps *
2.25)/5280,'___._')#/td
/tr
   cfset the_num_days = the_num_days + get_gweek_totals.num_days
   cfif get_gweek_totals.num_steps EQ cfset
get_gweek_totals.num_steps = 0/cfif
   cfset the_num_steps = the_num_steps + get_gweek_totals.num_steps
/cfloop
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University of Maryland
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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:29:26 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CFINVOKE and createObject are very different beasts.  CFOBJECT and
 createObject are the same, but CFINVOKE creates and instance of the
 CFC, calls the specified method on it, and then lets the instance
 disappear, with no hope of holding on to it for future reuse.
 
 Here's two examples of creating an object instance:
 cfset i = createObject(component, test) /
 cfobject action=create type=component name=i class=test /
 
 And here's two examples of calling a method on a CFC, without creating
 an instance:
 cfset r = createObject(component, test).testMethod() /
 cfinvoke component=test method=testMethod returnvariable=r /
 
 cheers,
 barneyb
 

Yeah, sorry -- should have been more clear. As others have pointed
out, you can simply create an instance into a local variable and then
use that variable in the cfinvoke tag. Why would you do that? I guess
just preference (I use cfscript/cfobject everywhere, so this isn't
personal experience -- just pointing out that you could do it this
way).

Regards,
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Re: process ColdFusion tag written inside a string

2004-11-29 Thread Kevin Marino
Michael,

I tried this and it doesn't seem to work with cfimport, which I am using to 
replace how form fields behave.

the string being written looks like;

cfimport taglib/fv prefix=
form 
 input /
/form

The import statement is for routines that re-render the form elements adding 
additional features.

Thoughts?
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CFMX 6.1 - java.lang.NullPointerException

2004-11-29 Thread Umer Farooq
Hi,

If any one could help on this.. it is much appreciated..

We are seeing this error happen.. about every four hours.. and then 
we have to restart CFMX.

Redhat AS 2.1
Apache 2.0.50
CFMX 6.1 (83762)


java.lang.NullPointerException
 at coldfusion.runtime.Cast._double(Cast.java:510)
 at coldfusion.runtime.Cast._int(Cast.java:322)
 at 
coldfusion.runtime.ClientScope.UpdateGlobals(ClientScope.java:112)
 at 
coldfusion.runtime.ClientScopeServiceImpl.UpdateGlobals(ClientScopeServiceImpl.java:224)
 at 
coldfusion.runtime.ClientScopeServiceImpl.PersistClientVariablesForRequest(ClientScopeServiceImpl.java:191)
 at 
coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:32)
 at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:35)
 at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:43)
 at 
coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
 at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:105)
 at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91)
 at 
jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
 at 
jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:249)
 at 
jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527)
 at 
jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:192)
 at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:348)
 at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:451)
 at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:294)
 at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:05:44 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm curious.  Why would you want to type this:
 
 cfinvoke component=#o# method=testMethod returnvariable=r
   cfinvokeargument ... /
   
 /cfinvoke
 
 as opposed to this:
 
 cfset r = o.testMethod(
   ...
 ) /

Me? I wouldn't. I don't use cfinvoke at all, I just wanted to point
out that cfinvoke doesn't automatically mean creating a new
instance...
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Re: PostgreSQL database size

2004-11-29 Thread Office
Thanks Paul and Jochem

Thats the answer I was hoping for. We have a hosted server running 
PostgreSQL/PostGIS/Mapserver running at www.gis.bush.org.nz hosting by 
limelyte. But no inhouse experience with even installing PostgreSQL.

We use MSDE2 inhouse but it has a 2GB limit. Being able to integrate CF with 
mapserver would be fantastic.

Paul - are you querying ArcSDE with CF directly. ESRI have donated  ArcSDE so 


where is the boundary between CF and mapserver and flash

Mike
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-- Original Message --
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Date:  Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:42:05 +0700

Jochem van Dieten wrote:
 PostgreSQL should be able to handle this without a problem on 
 suitable hardware. Don't forget to check out the PostGIS project, 
 it plugs GIS features right into PostgreSQL.

yeah, it's pretty slick. i've been a long-long time user of commercial 
GIS database products (mainly arcSDE) and to be able to use cf to run 
spatial queries is pretty freaking fantastic:

!--- find the province this point lies within ---
cfquery name=findProvince datasource=postGIS
  SELECT provinceName
  FROM provinces
  WHERE CONTAINS(the_geom, GeometryFromText('POINT(100.65 13.85)')
/cfquery

and to top it off it can output results as SVG.



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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:57:45 -0800, Steve Brownlee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but a good, solid, well-designed
 object oriented methodology will always beat spaghetti code.  FuseBox is a
 methodology, but it is not OO.  Let's be clear on that point.

As Brian already pointed out, Fusebox (small 'b', by the way) is not a
methodology, it is a framework. There is a methodology associated with
it, called FLiP. Mind you, quite a bit of FLiP is actually
framework-neutral...

As a huge fan of OO - I've been doing it for nearly thirteen years now
- I would also reiterate Brian's point that you can definitely use
Fusebox with a full-blown OO Model as part of an MVC-based
application.

I'll be talking at several conferences and user groups in 2005 on the
subject of frameworks - comparing Fusebox 4.x and Mach II.
-- 
Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
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Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Kwang Suh
And you have hit upon the true issue:  When it comes to CF, almost 100% of the 
maintanance problems with an app are a result of the people that wrote it.  
This is actually the case with many modern languages (I'll exempt C++ - it's a 
major knives and daggers language).  Blaming a framework is rather short 
sighted.

As an example, I once worked with someone that loved to name his JavaScript 
functions x, y and z.  When he had more than three functions on a page, he'd 
name then x1, x2, xx, etc.  Lovely.  I especially enjoyed when he'd do stuff 
like:

x = x();
y = z();
xx1 = x2();

Now then, is that the fault of JavaScript, or the idiot programmer (I use that 
word loosely in his case)?  Obviously, it was him.  To blame the language is 
disingeneous.  Same with blaming certain frameworks.

 Idiots can make anything hard to change though.  We have our own
 framework here, I hate dealing with it but I also understand the
 reasonings behind having it.  There have been times when I had to go
 in and resolve something someone else was attempting to do and it 
 took
 me hours or even days to get the task done and all because idiots
 were in it prior.
 
 -- 
 Aaron Rouse
 http://www.happyhacker.com/
 
 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:56:37 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've had to add features to a regular CF app that took me DAYS, 
 because the idiots that made it couldn't code to save their lives.
  
  


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RE: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Do you know that you can name your arguments in the compenent.method(arg2=1,
arg1=2)?

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Drayer

We started off writing all our component method calls inline -- ie:
component.method(argument1, argument2), but we quickly found that

1. It was sometimes hard to follow what was going on due to the squished up
nature of the code.

2. Having to maintain the proper order of argument declaration was a pain in
the neck.

So, we switched over to using cfinvoke for almost all of our method calls.
It lends a little flexibility to the developer, and helps to make the code
self-documenting.

We do still have some component method calls done the inline way, but they
are typically argument-less methods used in cfif tags, etc.:

cfif server.hcpro.isCustomerSubscribed()
  DO STUFF
/cfif

Matt





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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Barney Boisvert wrote:
 CFINVOKE and createObject are very different beasts.  CFOBJECT and
 createObject are the same, but CFINVOKE creates and instance of the
 CFC, calls the specified method on it, and then lets the instance
 disappear, with no hope of holding on to it for future reuse.

What if the method you call with cfinvoke returns an instance of 
the CFC?

Jochem

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RE: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Thanks.  I was wondering if you had some trick up your sleeve.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:05:44 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I'm curious.  Why would you want to type this:

 cfinvoke component=#o# method=testMethod returnvariable=r
   cfinvokeargument ... /
   
 /cfinvoke

 as opposed to this:

 cfset r = o.testMethod(
   ...
 ) /

Me? I wouldn't. I don't use cfinvoke at all, I just wanted to point
out that cfinvoke doesn't automatically mean creating a new
instance...
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RE: OT: Flashpaper

2004-11-29 Thread E C list
I haven't tried Martin's tag, but I can tell you from
using the free tag CF_HTML2PDF3 that also relies on
HTMLdoc to convert to pdf's that its not quite
perfect.   Unfortunately, I can't use FOP because I am
on ColdFusion 5 for the server where this is needed. 
It looks like FOP would be a better alternative if I
were able to use that one.  

I would really love to see a flashpaper plugin too. 
That would be very welcomed. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: Flashpaper


Hiya - I've posted a template which is part of my CMS
for you. It relies
on HTMLDoc and uses CFEXECUTE to convert inbound HTML
passed as an
attribute into a PDF file.

The template is at
http://www.beetrootstreet.com/_media/zip/PDFSaveContent.ZIP

HTMLDOC is found at
http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/software.php?VERSION=1.8.24


Hope you can make good use of it.

Martin Parry
Macromedia Certified Developer
http://www.BeetrootStreet.com

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 November 2004 13:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: Flashpaper

H.

The problem I have is that I need to convert a block
of HTML which is in
a variable (from cfsavecontent) into a PDF with the
minimum of fuss, at
the moment I have a few options but no real examples! 
The CFDJ article
doesn't explain HTML to PDF does it?

Thanks

N



-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 November 2004 13:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Flashpaper

http://xml.apache.org/fop/ is the link.

And yeah, it's very good at at it. Bit more work
involved than say
Blackstone will require but it doesn't cost a penny.

There was a couple of articles on using CFMX and FOP
in the CFDJ earlier
this year too.

Andy


On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:36 -, Robertson-Ravo,
Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Andy,
 
 You got a link on  that? Does it convert HTML to PDF
with any degree 
 of success?
 
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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 26 November 2004 13:15
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: Flashpaper
 
 Not Flashpaper, but I am using FOP to create PDFs
 
 Andy
 
 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:01:54 -, Robertson-Ravo,
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  Anyone used or is using Flashpaper to convert
HTML/HTM docs into PDF

  or
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RE: OT: Scan Docs to Edit

2004-11-29 Thread E C list
Donna, Most scanners these days come with basic
Optical Character Reader (OCR) software.  Generally it
does a very good job of converting scanned text from a
page, back into editable text and corresponding images
of things that can't be converted (for instance
signatures or logos in letterhead).  Once you have
OCR'ed the document, you can add to it and then
print it back out to a PDF file. (For which you'll
need something like Adobe Acrobat Professional or even
just one of the freeware software's around that do
this sort of thing)... so the steps would be:

1) Scan the document
2) OCR it to turn it into editable text (Many scanners
do this in one step)
3) Make changes
4) Print to PDF file

Hope this helps 

-Original Message-
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Scan Docs to Edit


you need to put text on top of the scanned image? Is
Photoshop available?


On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:41:11 -0600, Donna French
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, sorry for the OT post, but I'm trying to help
a lawyer friend of
 mine and not real sure how to tackle this. I need to
scan a document
 then allow them to enter text either on top of the
scan, or scan in as
 a PDF or similar?
 
 Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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RE: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Ben Rogers
 2. Having to maintain the proper order of argument declaration was a pain
 in the neck.

You can pass arguments by name when calling UDFs and component methods using
the dotted syntax:

  cfset myObject = createObject(component, test)

  cfset result = myObject.sayHello(message=Hello, name=ben)

When naming your arguments, order is not important. In fact, you can build a
collection of arguments and pass them in:

  cfset myObject = createObject(component, test)
  
  cfset args = structNew()

  cfset args.message = Hello
  
  cfset args.name = World

  cfset result = myObject.sayHello(argumentCollection=args)

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Re: Best way to access CFC's?

2004-11-29 Thread Matthew Drayer
I did not know that, no.  Thanks for the tip.

Matt

Do you know that you can name your arguments in the compenent.method(arg2=1,
arg1=2)?

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RE: OT: Flashpaper

2004-11-29 Thread E C list
I haven't tried Martin's tag, but I can tell you from
using the free tag CF_HTML2PDF3 that also relies on
HTMLdoc to convert to pdf's that its not quite
perfect.   Unfortunately, I can't use FOP because I am
on ColdFusion 5 for the server where this is needed. 
It looks like FOP would be a better alternative if I
were able to use that one.  

I would really love to see a flashpaper plugin too. 
That would be very welcomed. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: Flashpaper


Hiya - I've posted a template which is part of my CMS
for you. It relies
on HTMLDoc and uses CFEXECUTE to convert inbound HTML
passed as an
attribute into a PDF file.

The template is at
http://www.beetrootstreet.com/_media/zip/PDFSaveContent.ZIP

HTMLDOC is found at
http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/software.php?VERSION=1.8.24


Hope you can make good use of it.

Martin Parry
Macromedia Certified Developer
http://www.BeetrootStreet.com




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RE: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

2004-11-29 Thread Steve Brownlee
https://sourceforge.net/projects/cfobjects/

Since we're on the topic, talk of cfObjects is rarely mentioned anymore.  I
still use it for every major web application I build because it works for me.
Version 4.0 of the package was just released with a new Dreamweaver toolbar,
class/method wizards, and some other performance enhancements.  It certainly
doesn't get the marketing blitz and big-name support that FB and MachII get,
but it still delivers and is easy to set up and maintain.

I know that since the most recent CF server technologies use CFCs, that
cfObjects may seem redundant, but with the extras that it gives you that CFCs
don't support yet, I still think it's worth using.

My 2 cents.

-Original Message-
From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MX Methodologies (Mach2?? Fusebox??)

And you have hit upon the true issue:  When it comes to CF, almost 100% of
the maintanance problems with an app are a result of the people that wrote
it.  This is actually the case with many modern languages (I'll exempt C++ -
it's a major knives and daggers language).  Blaming a framework is rather
short sighted.

As an example, I once worked with someone that loved to name his JavaScript
functions x, y and z.  When he had more than three functions on a page, he'd
name then x1, x2, xx, etc.  Lovely.  I especially enjoyed when he'd do stuff
like:

x = x();
y = z();
xx1 = x2();

Now then, is that the fault of JavaScript, or the idiot programmer (I use
that word loosely in his case)?  Obviously, it was him.  To blame the
language is disingeneous.  Same with blaming certain frameworks.


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cffile readbinary zip file

2004-11-29 Thread Ian Ian
Hi all,

I am using the following code to display/download files.  During the upload I 
use  file.ContentType  /  file.ContentSubType  to set the mime type.  This 
method allows me to upload, view and download html, gif, jpg, doc, pdf and exe 
files without any problems.  However, I am having some troubles with viewing 
zip files.  I can download (I mean save to local disk and open the zip file 
from there) with no problem, but if I try to view the zip files directly (by 
choosing open rather that save in IE's file download window) the zip file 
does not open currently.  The correct filenames are displayed in the zip file 
but there icons are missing, and when I click on a file in the zip file nothing 
happens.  Also when trying to extract the files from the zip file, I get the 
error no files to extract.

Any idea you may have to help me solve this problem would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Ian



cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=Yes
cfoutput query=qry_doc maxrows=1
cfheader name=content-disposition value=inline; filename=#d_filename#
cfcontent type=#d_type# file=#docfileroot##dg_dir##d_filename#
cffile  action=readbinary file = #docfileroot##dg_dir##d_filename# 
variable = filecontent
#tostring(tobinary(tobase64(filecontent)))#
/cfoutput 

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