RE: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
i didnt say it was, i just agreed :) even if i wanted to put sp2 on mine (which wouldnt happen) i cant cause i guess they banned me from updating, which is fine with me, hardly use it anymore, only to run dw and flash. and no the others arent perfect but much better! well i havent seen anything about sp2 that explains why it messes up cfm server but i would be curious too know and it sounds like u have already checked into why so could u please share with us? cause that might help will get his fixed did u see the deal on msn going to cssp pages but they still wont fix their browser? man, they are 1 messed up company From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 1:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i doubt it Michael > its easy to diss them because they screw everything up > so its the operators fault when they dl sp2 and it shuts off > cfmx server? > yeah thats the operators fault > its also the operators fault cause of all the holes and > breaches, oh yeah and its the operator fault that the box > model is messed up. > well in my case it is the operators fault cause i bought that crap!! > but i like u michael so we arent gunna fight bout it, i > just shouldnta said anything in the first place They aren't perfect , no. Who is? Is Unix/Linux perfect?.. no. The point is, before you go dissing certain things gather some information... see why things might break with SP2 and try to understand why. It's obvious you just got pissed off when it didn't work, blamed it on M$ without even knowing why. If you don't like M$ products don't use them, including IE with their Fd up rendition of the box model. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193220 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i doubt it Michael > its easy to diss them because they screw everything up > so its the operators fault when they dl sp2 and it shuts off > cfmx server? > yeah thats the operators fault > its also the operators fault cause of all the holes and > breaches, oh yeah and its the operator fault that the box > model is messed up. > well in my case it is the operators fault cause i bought that crap!! > but i like u michael so we arent gunna fight bout it, i > just shouldnta said anything in the first place They aren't perfect , no. Who is? Is Unix/Linux perfect?.. no. The point is, before you go dissing certain things gather some information... see why things might break with SP2 and try to understand why. It's obvious you just got pissed off when it didn't work, blamed it on M$ without even knowing why. If you don't like M$ products don't use them, including IE with their Fd up rendition of the box model. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193219 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
i doubt it Michael its easy to diss them because they screw everything up so its the operators fault when they dl sp2 and it shuts off cfmx server? yeah thats the operators fault its also the operators fault cause of all the holes and breaches, oh yeah and its the operator fault that the box model is messed up. well in my case it is the operators fault cause i bought that crap!! but i like u michael so we arent gunna fight bout it, i just shouldnta said anything in the first place From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 1:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > lol totally! i swear everything is ms's fault!!! > > i seriously dont know why ppl put sp2 on, doesnt make their > puters anymore secure, sure it may help a few of the old > probs but there are so many new ones with sp2 why bother? i > thinks its pretty evident u shouldnt trust a damn thing they > do and yeah the sp2 caused problems with cfmx installs (im > sure that was a total accident of course, how convient) Everyone is always so quick to diss M$. Sometimes the problem exsists between the chair and keyboard! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193218 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > lol totally! i swear everything is ms's fault!!! > > i seriously dont know why ppl put sp2 on, doesnt make their > puters anymore secure, sure it may help a few of the old > probs but there are so many new ones with sp2 why bother? i > thinks its pretty evident u shouldnt trust a damn thing they > do and yeah the sp2 caused problems with cfmx installs (im > sure that was a total accident of course, how convient) Everyone is always so quick to diss M$. Sometimes the problem exsists between the chair and keyboard! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193217 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Frycry install
You meant 'FarCry', right? I installed it a few months ago (with CFMX/Apache on Linux), and seem to recall it being amazingly painless. Extract the archive, run the installer, and follow the instructions for defining the mapping it needed. Obviously as you get farther in-depth, it'll get more complicated, but I went from download to signing in like 5 minutes. cheers, barneyb On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 02:37:06 +, Andrew Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all... > > Anyone got any good, clear instructions on installing FryCry on a > CFMX/Apache configuration. The install instruction on the site are not > very clear and seem to relate to IIS. > > Thanks > > Andrew. > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 49 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193216 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Should I have heard from Macromedia?
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I sat my CFMX certification exam on Decemer 23 last year and > passed with advanced status - I havent heard anything since > from anyone. > My name is now listed in the listing of Advanced certified > Developers, and that's good, but is that all that happens? > Should I have heard from Macromedia at all? What happens after you > pass the exam? Hi Mike. I wouldn have guessed that MM would have gotten you your paper certificate saying you are now an advacned certified developer, etc. They also include a CD with the CF logo to use etc... Seems as though you should have gotten some form of certificate or something. I'd contact MM and see whats up. Mike ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193215 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Checking for the existence of a collection?
creates a folder for each collection, so I suppose you could use to check to see if it existed. - Original Message - From: "Doug Hyde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: Checking for the existence of a collection? > Other than knowing beforehand by having created manually, does anyone know > of a way to check for the existance of a collection. Like no point running > cfindex if the collection doesn't exist, so let's check, and if no, let's > create with cfcollection. I need to create and index collections > dynamically. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193214 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Should I have heard from Macromedia?
I sat my CFMX certification exam on Decemer 23 last year and passed with advanced status - I havent heard anything since from anyone. My name is now listed in the listing of Advanced certified Developers, and that's good, but is that all that happens? Should I have heard from Macromedia at all? What happens after you pass the exam? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193213 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
lol totally! i swear everything is ms's fault!!! i seriously dont know why ppl put sp2 on, doesnt make their puters anymore secure, sure it may help a few of the old probs but there are so many new ones with sp2 why bother? i thinks its pretty evident u shouldnt trust a damn thing they do and yeah the sp2 caused problems with cfmx installs (im sure that was a total accident of course, how convient) might not be but sure feels good to blame them ;) haha From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work Yep, everything cleared out. Still erroring. El Bizarro! Gotta be this damn XP/SP2! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193212 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
Yep, everything cleared out. Still erroring. El Bizarro! Gotta be this damn XP/SP2! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193211 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
humm that is weird, have u cleaned your cache? check the db connection is dw or is that just a bs thingy, i cant recall From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work No CF updater currently. It's weird man, it was all working and I added a DSN for the clothing site a month or so ago, but haven't been in there since. Now it's broken again! coldfusion.tagext.lang.SettingTag.setRequestTimeout(J)V Only on DSN admin page, and settings summary page. hmm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193210 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
I already tried restarting cf, rebooting, everything. No go. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193209 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
No CF updater currently. It's weird man, it was all working and I added a DSN for the clothing site a month or so ago, but haven't been in there since. Now it's broken again! coldfusion.tagext.lang.SettingTag.setRequestTimeout(J)V Only on DSN admin page, and settings summary page. hmm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193208 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
re: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
which updater? cfm or sp2? From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work A while back I got my new computer, Godzilla, XP, SP2, installed cf and it was fine until I installed the updater. After that I couldn't login to cfadmin, got an error. I uninstalled CF (that was fun!), reinstalled with no updater and it all worked fine again. I just now logged in to add a DSN for the first time in a while, and it's erroring again, but on two pages only. DSN admin and Settings summary. Here's the error. coldfusion.tagext.lang.SettingTag.setRequestTimeout(J)V Any ideas guys? Thanks, Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193207 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
WEIRD error causing cfadmin to not work
A while back I got my new computer, Godzilla, XP, SP2, installed cf and it was fine until I installed the updater. After that I couldn't login to cfadmin, got an error. I uninstalled CF (that was fun!), reinstalled with no updater and it all worked fine again. I just now logged in to add a DSN for the first time in a while, and it's erroring again, but on two pages only. DSN admin and Settings summary. Here's the error. coldfusion.tagext.lang.SettingTag.setRequestTimeout(J)V Any ideas guys? Thanks, Will ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193206 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Frycry install
Hi all... Anyone got any good, clear instructions on installing FryCry on a CFMX/Apache configuration. The install instruction on the site are not very clear and seem to relate to IIS. Thanks Andrew. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193205 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Hightlight Tag Broken, Verity Search Alternative?
> I haven't used the cf_highlight tag so I don't know how much > different or > similar this may be but I've used this one quite a bit and it > works great. > It is a modified version of a function originally written by > Ray Camden. > > http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=133 Beautiful! Thanks--that replaced what I already had that was... Not as good. Now, if I can just figure out an alternative search solution--you know, like the "Idiot's Guide To Building Your Own Search Engine On Your Site", order may be partially restored to the universe. My universe, anyway. Thanks again! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193204 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Stopping endlessly looping query on remote server?
Les Irvin wrote: > How does one stop an endlessly looping query on a remote server in MX6.1? I > guess the function CFUSION_DBCONNECTIONS_FLUSH is not supported in MX. Using the functionality the database provides natively (check the manual). You might want to investigate the effect of the timeout attribute of cfquery to prevent this from occuring. Jochem ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193203 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Stopping endlessly looping query on remote server?
How does one stop an endlessly looping query on a remote server in MX6.1? I guess the function CFUSION_DBCONNECTIONS_FLUSH is not supported in MX. Ideas? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193202 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Hightlight Tag Broken, Verity Search Alternative?
I havent used the cf_highlight tag so I don't know how much different or similar this may be but I've used this one quite a bit and it works great. It is a modified version of a function originally written by Ray Camden. http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=133 just tell it the string to search and the keyword to highlight -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193201 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Concatenation in MSSQL Server
>>There sure is, + Thanks a lot. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193200 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Same here... I've lurked around some CSS-related newsgroups and even some of the die-hard CSS fans still use tables for layout and dress it up with CSS. I NEVER put in a hack. NEVER! I have never needed anything that bad to use a hack. M!ke >So I'm very careful with CSS, not to get into having to worry about this hack and that workaround ... if tables work easily and display well, then tables it is. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193199 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
OT: Good Microsoft Server 2003 list
I need to join a Microsoft Server 2003 list. Can anyone point me to a good one? Andy ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193198 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: No white space in source code?
>What's the trick so there is no blank space where the coldfusion code is >when we look at the source code in the browser? > >Thanks > >Pat Pat, Aside from , there's also , as in code to whose output the setting is applied Another technique I use is a URF from cflib called HtmlCompressFormat. You can get it at http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=812. From the website: -- This function is useful to reduce download time of your entire webpage. Client's will load pages noticably faster. Also very useful to compress a page before caching it for storage. Code is very useful in the fusebox 3 methodology, wrap this around your #fusebox.layout# variable to compress the html output. Code works on 3 levels of compression, and can easily be customized for more or different ways. Level 1: Replaces excessive spaces with no side effects. Level 2: (default) Removes more blank space but keeps html tags from wrapping into each other, so the code is still readable (maybe even more so) Level 3: Replaces all comments and any spaces possible, the side effect is space between html tags is removed, so alignment changes are possible. -- Here's how I use it insert CF and HTML code here #HtmlCodeFormat(htmlCompressFormat(html, 2))# It does a very good job of eliminating whitespace, especially when used in conjunction with cfsilent, and cfprocessingdirective. hth, larry ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193197 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Concatenation in MSSQL Server
First, if you're using MSSQL Server, install BOL, Books Online & it will answer questions like this. SQL catenation operator is '+' Give that a try Claude Schneegans wrote: >Hi, > >I have a query that works for Access, but won't in the MSSQL Server version. >INSERT INTO tableOne >(FullName, etc) >SELECT >customers.firstName & ' ' & customers.lastName, etc. >FROM tableTwo > >Apparently, it is the concatenation operation that causes the trouble. >I suppose ther is an equivalent way to do it under MSSQL? > >Thanks > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193196 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Concatenation in MSSQL Server
There sure is, + Ade -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2005 20:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: Concatenation in MSSQL Server Hi, I have a query that works for Access, but won't in the MSSQL Server version. INSERT INTO tableOne (FullName, etc) SELECT customers.firstName & ' ' & customers.lastName, etc. FROM tableTwo Apparently, it is the concatenation operation that causes the trouble. I suppose ther is an equivalent way to do it under MSSQL? Thanks -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005 ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193195 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Concatenation in MSSQL Server
Hi, I have a query that works for Access, but won't in the MSSQL Server version. INSERT INTO tableOne (FullName, etc) SELECT customers.firstName & ' ' & customers.lastName, etc. FROM tableTwo Apparently, it is the concatenation operation that causes the trouble. I suppose ther is an equivalent way to do it under MSSQL? Thanks -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193194 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Checking for the existence of a collection?
How about (MX only AFAIK): SELECT * FROM GetCollections where GetCollections.name = 'YourCollectionName' HTH Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193193 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Checking for the existence of a collection?
How about (MX only AFAIK): SELECT * FROM GetCollections where GetCollections.name = 'YourCollectionName' HTH Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193193 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Checking for the existence of a collection?
I guess it does, try this... Not sure if you're hosting provider will appreciate you using this though. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2005 18:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Checking for the existence of a collection? > From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I believe Doug means a Verity collection - There isn't a way to check > for its existence in any variables scopes unless you try to > run a search > against it and it throws an error. That stinks. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193191 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Checking for the existence of a collection?
> From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I believe Doug means a Verity collection - There isn't a way to check > for its existence in any variables scopes unless you try to > run a search > against it and it throws an error. That stinks. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193190 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions > > Specifically... > > - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser > and > version? How many? > > - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that > actually > help your pages be more universally compatible? Whenever possible code to standards then change (and comment!) for browser issues. > - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js > capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? The JavaScript and DHTML guides at MSDN.microsoft.com are pretty good and inform you of which features are in which specs (but not how to code for the other browsers). > - It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE installed on > the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have > separate > machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe > even 3? How else can you test? MS (formerly Connectix) Virtual PC or VMWare are absolute god sends for this. Using them you can install any x86 OS (all DOS/Windows, Linux, BeOS, Lindows, etc) to software only "Virtual PCs". You can then copy virtual PCs (which are really just files on your hard disk) to easily create test platforms. For example you might install Windows 2000 to a virtual PC. You then make a copy of that and install IE 5.5 then another copy and install IE 6.0. Now you can run all of them as windows on your host machine for testing. The only thing you can't do (since this is x86 emulator) is test Mac OSs. There's still no really good solution for that other than getting a Mac and then you're still left with multi-booting or multiple machines for testing multiple OSes (I REALLY WANT a PPC emulator!) > - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? Personally, no. I use Virtual PC for PC and Linux and trust to the graces of friends for Macs (since I can't see spending the money and dedicating the space for one personally). > - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of > browsers and versions that you need to support? Depends on the site... right now I would say on the PC IE 6, 5.5 and 5 and Firefox 1.0 as browsers should be the minimum. However you might want to add earlier versions of Mozilla and IE-based browsers. AOL testing would be good as well, if you can, although it still uses the IE engine it does modify it. One the Mac it looks like IE 5.5 is losing ground steadily to Safari while on Linux Firefox seems to be king. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193189 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Thanks for the breakdown Jochem. It seems like folks aren't paying a lot of attention to macs. Here around Boston, some biotech companies need mixed platform support, including macs. Not a lot of linux/unix, at least on the desktop where the browsers live. Ironically, I used to be a mac-only guy, but haven't owned one for years. Dave Merrill > Dave Merrill wrote: > > > > - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the > browser and > > version? How many? > > No. But I might serve additional ones for certain browsers (IE). > > > > - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does > that actually > > help your pages be more universally compatible? > > XHTML 1, CSS Level 1 and WCAG 1 are usually in the specs. > > > > - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? > > Windows and OpenBSD. > > > > - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of > > browsers and versions that you need to support? > > Firefox 1, IE 6 and Lynx 2.8.3. > > Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193188 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Dave Merrill wrote: > > - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and > version? How many? No. But I might serve additional ones for certain browsers (IE). > - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that actually > help your pages be more universally compatible? XHTML 1, CSS Level 1 and WCAG 1 are usually in the specs. > - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? Windows and OpenBSD. > - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of > browsers and versions that you need to support? Firefox 1, IE 6 and Lynx 2.8.3. Jochem ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193187 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Checking for the existence of a collection?
I believe Doug means a Verity collection - There isn't a way to check for its existence in any variables scopes unless you try to run a search against it and it throws an error. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2005 15:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Checking for the existence of a collection? I think instead of using a cftry/cfcatch block I would use cfparam to make sure the struct existed and then use the structIsEmpty function to determine whether or not to build the collection or use it... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193186 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Checking for the existence of a collection?
> From: Doug Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Other than knowing beforehand by having created manually, > does anyone know > of a way to check for the existence of a collection. Like no > point running > cfindex if the collection doesn't exist, so let's check, and > if no, let's > create with cfcollection. I need to create and index collections > dynamically I think instead of using a cftry/cfcatch block I would use cfparam to make sure the struct existed and then use the structIsEmpty function to determine whether or not to build the collection or use it... This all assumes a collection is a struct, which I do not know as I do not use the cfcollection/cfindex tags that often. Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193185 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Recovery from a session time-out?
Nice call Steve..
Alternatively, to get around the JavaScript bit, create an invisible
IFRAME which has it SRC set to the alive.cfm.. On Alive.cfm, add a HTTP
redirect to redirect back to itself after 1200 seconds.
Martin Parry
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 February 2005 13:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Recovery from a session time-out?
In addition to that approach, I would suggest the following bit of
JavaScript:
function keepAlive() {
var imgAlive = new Image();
var d = new Date();
imgAlive.src = '/alive.cfm?d=' + d;
}
setInterval("keepAlive()", 20*60*1000);
Before the script is added to your site, add a small alive.cfm file to
the root of your site (name it whatever you wish, just be consistent).
The script makes sure that a page is requested from your ColdFusion
server by their browser every 20 minutes (safely less than the 30 minute
time-out). Alive.cfm need not return an image - JavaScript doesn't
check.
Keep in mind that this only works for users who have JavaScript enabled,
so make sure to use this technique in conjuction with (not in place of)
the approach suggested by Michael Dawson.
http://steve.coldfusionjournal.com/read/1053683.htm
Steve
> I setup my intranet so that, even if the session times-out, it will be
> transparent to the end-user. I do this by keeping a separate session
> cookie.
>
> When the session times-out, then the user accesses another page in the
> application, my scripts will reload the data in the session scope
> again. The end-users have not complained about this process.
>
> Mike
>
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Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
My two cents... I develop with Firefox and its validator extension, then fiddle with this and that for IE. Everyone should use Firefox for their browsing and I recommend it to most of my clients. Side note: I also like Thunderbird for email. It's proven to be preety nifty so far for me. Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193183 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Recovery from a session time-out?
In addition to that approach, I would suggest the following bit of JavaScript:
function keepAlive() {
var imgAlive = new Image();
var d = new Date();
imgAlive.src = '/alive.cfm?d=' + d;
}
setInterval("keepAlive()", 20*60*1000);
Before the script is added to your site, add a small alive.cfm file to the root
of your site (name it whatever you wish, just be consistent). The script makes
sure that a page is requested from your ColdFusion server by their browser
every 20 minutes (safely less than the 30 minute time-out). Alive.cfm need not
return an image - JavaScript doesn't check.
Keep in mind that this only works for users who have JavaScript enabled, so
make sure to use this technique in conjuction with (not in place of) the
approach suggested by Michael Dawson.
http://steve.coldfusionjournal.com/read/1053683.htm
Steve
> I setup my intranet so that, even if the session times-out, it will be
> transparent to the end-user. I do this by keeping a separate session
> cookie.
>
> When the session times-out, then the user accesses another page in the
> application, my scripts will reload the data in the session scope
> again. The end-users have not complained about this process.
>
> Mike
>
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Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
>>- Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and >>version? How many? Sometimes, you have to. Mozilla sticks closer to the standard and IE has some oddities for which you must find workarounds. >>- Are you coding to W3C standards? If you need some nice functionalities and powerfull client interface, I would say this is almost impossible: the W3C standards are just too dumb. Even Mozilla has added features identical or similar to those in MSIE and they are not in the standards. The problem with the W3C is that the documentation is even worse than the standards. At Mozilla.org, they claim they don't need documentation, because Mozilla strictly sticks to the standards and they refer to the W3C docs. First it is not true, because Mozilla has plenty of features not in the standards, including HTML editing functions compatible with MSIE, and this is not documented, secondly the W3C docs are simply unreadable, written in a completely abstrus meta language, with no example ever. I wish there was a standard about how to write documentation about standards,... hmmm there is probabily one, and that's why the W3C stinks so much ;-) >>Which one(s)? Ah ah, that's a damn good question. When you visit the W3C docs pages, there are always half a dozen of versions, drafts, proposal, etc. You never know which one is THE standard, nor you can know WHICH one Mozilla is so proud to stick to. >>How much does that actually >>help your pages be more universally compatible? If you stick to the standards, you'll probabily be more compatible, but with much more effort and less power. >>- What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js >>capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? Ok, have a look at the "IE emulator for Mozilla": http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/ieemu/ I know I will make Moz fans mad, but Mozilla is missing quite a few handy tools available in IE. However it has facilities that allow to emulate them. Using this emulator, one can write IE code that will run on Mozilla as well, even the ubiquitous document.all collection. (not that I'm in favour od the use of it, but it could save lots of hours of work just making old scripts compatible). - do you actually have separate machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe even 3? You can forget about anything below 5.5: according to http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm IE 4 is less than 1%, and IE3 is not even listed. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193181 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Current windows versions only? Dave Merrill > I do all development for FireFox, then fix the little things from IE and > NetScape. > Thats the only ones I deal with honestly. > > > Dave Merrill wrote: > > >I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only > browser we had > >to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have > recent IE's > >oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm > >wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. > I'm thinking > >about relatively small shops that don't have enormous resources devoted > >solely to QA. > > > >Specifically... > > > >- Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the > browser and > >version? How many? > > > >- Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does > that actually > >help your pages be more universally compatible? > > > >- What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js > >capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? > > > >- It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE > installed on > >the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually > have separate > >machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe > >even 3? How else can you test? > > > >- Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? > > > >- For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of > >browsers and versions that you need to support? > > > >Dave Merrill ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193180 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
I'm shocked and aghast !! I'm nearly always entirely right ;) I agree with your comments about skills - I have been fiddling with the software development thing for .. ahem.. about 18 years or more :( and there's always something new to learn. It just takes time, even for a seasoned pro in one field - to learn, try and evaluate new and interesting technologies, tools and standards. Time is a very limited resource, and I personally learn things as and when I need to. My experience with producing this site (in about a day including learning the way the DIV's and CSS hung together) was a good one and I'm certainly going to be trying more. I, as I'm sure the vast majority of developers are lazy, and anything that can make work easier with less arsing around can only be good. Oh, let's not forget the end-user benefiting :) Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2005 13:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions Ultimately, he's mostly correct, but to be fair, not entirely and I don't want to turn this into an argument/back and forth discussion--but ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193179 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Russ.. I agree with much of what you say... when I first started playing with CSS and even now, I spent and could spend incredible amounts of time trying to get a CSS layout to look right when maybe not as in vogue, I end up doing the project using tables in about an hour ... So I'm very careful with CSS, not to get into having to worry about this hack and that workaround ... if tables work easily and display well, then tables it is. When the cross browser standards are developed (which who knows when that will happen), then maybe css will be the best way to go all the time -Original Message- From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions It should be noted that Martin's actually talking about getting strong enough with CSS to understand when you'll need certain workarounds, what styles will work when and port across to other browsers, etc. He's also bringing up understanding of Standards (ref: http://print.google.com/print?id=RBtltKDulrcC&prev=http://print.google.c om/print%3Fq%3Djeffrey%2Bzeldman&pg=1&sig=yKmjRKvg-LB3bsO5Yg4DBoEP4Ow "Designing with Web Standards" by Jeffrey Zeldman), and I think the approach is a little pie in the sky. Ultimately, he's mostly correct, but to be fair, not entirely and I don't want to turn this into an argument/back and forth discussion--but everthing that you need to do will have a lot of factors, such as complexity, skill sets of other developers, etc. While XHTML & CSS standards (per Zeldman, at least) are an absolutely phenominal notion, I do not believe that their usage is entirely something logical in the marketplace as of yet--but that doesn't mean we shouldn't all strive to understand better, it just means that the likelyhood of finding yourself in a project that works that way would be rather.. Diminished. And yes, the argument is there for cost savings, etc. but the first time you find yourself spending 2 days trying to make something work across browsers using only XHTML and CSS when you could have performed the same task with a table in 2 minutes... Well, let's just say that the cost benefit starts to also... Diminish. It's a noble effort and a great, great idea and it's great to have people driving for it, but until these types of standards become mainstream and we're all learning them as fundamentals, getting there will be slow going. But please, take my comments with a grain of salt. I've found that there are many things you can do by knowing standards better to improve development--even if you don't use them 100%. At the same time, take anyone else's comment with a grain of salt that promise you all of this--but wait, there's more! If you call in now, you'll also get this great knife that can cut through aluminum cans--and more. Simply put, it's just not all the way there, but getting another person on board always helps. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:49 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions > > > Using CSS for site layout is one sure fire way of making sure > your sites > look consistent across most browsers.. If you use DreamWeaver > and have a > bit of time to get your head around CSS layouts then create a new page > using the CSS template and see how it hangs together - basically all > done with DIV's. I dipped my toe in the water the other day, > created my > first CSS only site and was stunned when trying it in each > browser that > it looked IDENTICAL !! > > Another by product of doing things this way was that when I tested the > site using the W3C CSS and html validator it got a perfect score. > Superb! > > As far as any JavaScript stuff goes, I agree with > "ColdFusionDeveloper" > (the man with no name) - Try it in a non-ie browser first > then fiddle to > get it working in that later. I love using document.all (saves using > getElementByID) but it just ain't available in other mainline > browsers. > > Search engines and accessibility tools such as screen readers for > partially sighted users benefit from using CSS too as there's > no masses > of nested tables to confuse the issue. > > Martin Parry > Macromedia Certified Developer > http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 February 2005 12:42 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions > > I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only > browser we > had > to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent > IE's > oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm > wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm > thinking > about relatively small shops that don't have enormous > resources devoted > solely to QA. > > Specifically.
RE: Checking for the existence of a collection?
Thanks. D -Original Message- From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Checking for the existence of a collection? Why not CFTRY a simple verity search based on the collection you want to check and create it in the CFCATCH section if it does indeed fail. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Doug Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2005 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Checking for the existence of a collection? Other than knowing beforehand by having created manually, does anyone know of a way to check for the existance of a collection. Like no point running cfindex if the collection doesn't exist, so let's check, and if no, let's create with cfcollection. I need to create and index collections dynamically. Thanks, Doug ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193177 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
It should be noted that Martin's actually talking about getting strong enough with CSS to understand when you'll need certain workarounds, what styles will work when and port across to other browsers, etc. He's also bringing up understanding of Standards (ref: http://print.google.com/print?id=RBtltKDulrcC&prev=http://print.google.c om/print%3Fq%3Djeffrey%2Bzeldman&pg=1&sig=yKmjRKvg-LB3bsO5Yg4DBoEP4Ow "Designing with Web Standards" by Jeffrey Zeldman), and I think the approach is a little pie in the sky. Ultimately, he's mostly correct, but to be fair, not entirely and I don't want to turn this into an argument/back and forth discussion--but everthing that you need to do will have a lot of factors, such as complexity, skill sets of other developers, etc. While XHTML & CSS standards (per Zeldman, at least) are an absolutely phenominal notion, I do not believe that their usage is entirely something logical in the marketplace as of yet--but that doesn't mean we shouldn't all strive to understand better, it just means that the likelyhood of finding yourself in a project that works that way would be rather.. Diminished. And yes, the argument is there for cost savings, etc. but the first time you find yourself spending 2 days trying to make something work across browsers using only XHTML and CSS when you could have performed the same task with a table in 2 minutes... Well, let's just say that the cost benefit starts to also... Diminish. It's a noble effort and a great, great idea and it's great to have people driving for it, but until these types of standards become mainstream and we're all learning them as fundamentals, getting there will be slow going. But please, take my comments with a grain of salt. I've found that there are many things you can do by knowing standards better to improve development--even if you don't use them 100%. At the same time, take anyone else's comment with a grain of salt that promise you all of this--but wait, there's more! If you call in now, you'll also get this great knife that can cut through aluminum cans--and more. Simply put, it's just not all the way there, but getting another person on board always helps. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:49 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions > > > Using CSS for site layout is one sure fire way of making sure > your sites > look consistent across most browsers.. If you use DreamWeaver > and have a > bit of time to get your head around CSS layouts then create a new page > using the CSS template and see how it hangs together - basically all > done with DIV's. I dipped my toe in the water the other day, > created my > first CSS only site and was stunned when trying it in each > browser that > it looked IDENTICAL !! > > Another by product of doing things this way was that when I tested the > site using the W3C CSS and html validator it got a perfect score. > Superb! > > As far as any JavaScript stuff goes, I agree with > "ColdFusionDeveloper" > (the man with no name) - Try it in a non-ie browser first > then fiddle to > get it working in that later. I love using document.all (saves using > getElementByID) but it just ain't available in other mainline > browsers. > > Search engines and accessibility tools such as screen readers for > partially sighted users benefit from using CSS too as there's > no masses > of nested tables to confuse the issue. > > Martin Parry > Macromedia Certified Developer > http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 February 2005 12:42 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions > > I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only > browser we > had > to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent > IE's > oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm > wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm > thinking > about relatively small shops that don't have enormous > resources devoted > solely to QA. > > Specifically... > > - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on > the browser > and > version? How many? > > - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that > actually > help your pages be more universally compatible? > > - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js > capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? > > - It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE > installed > on > the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have > separate > machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, > and 6, maybe > even 3? How else can you test? > > - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? > > - For general public sites, what do you consid
RE: CF5 to CFMX - CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS and MS Excel data sources
I asked: > > Pardon my ignorance, but can we speculate why MM removed the > > CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS function (and other related > > functions) from CFMX? Does it have to do with Java? Or does > > it have to do with security? Dave said: > Presumably because the entire product was rewritten, and uses > JDBC database drivers instead of ODBC? Yes, but was the CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS function removed because JDBC does not support that kind of function or was there some other reason the function was removed? Inquiring minds want to know! (The inquiring minds belong to people I work for who want to know why an upward migration to CFMX cost us functionality we had with CF5 . . . ) George [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193175 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Checking for the existence of a collection?
Why not CFTRY a simple verity search based on the collection you want to check and create it in the CFCATCH section if it does indeed fail. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Doug Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2005 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Checking for the existence of a collection? Other than knowing beforehand by having created manually, does anyone know of a way to check for the existance of a collection. Like no point running cfindex if the collection doesn't exist, so let's check, and if no, let's create with cfcollection. I need to create and index collections dynamically. Thanks, Doug ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193174 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Checking for the existence of a collection?
Other than knowing beforehand by having created manually, does anyone know of a way to check for the existance of a collection. Like no point running cfindex if the collection doesn't exist, so let's check, and if no, let's create with cfcollection. I need to create and index collections dynamically. Thanks, Doug ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193173 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Using CSS for site layout is one sure fire way of making sure your sites look consistent across most browsers.. If you use DreamWeaver and have a bit of time to get your head around CSS layouts then create a new page using the CSS template and see how it hangs together - basically all done with DIV's. I dipped my toe in the water the other day, created my first CSS only site and was stunned when trying it in each browser that it looked IDENTICAL !! Another by product of doing things this way was that when I tested the site using the W3C CSS and html validator it got a perfect score. Superb! As far as any JavaScript stuff goes, I agree with "ColdFusionDeveloper" (the man with no name) - Try it in a non-ie browser first then fiddle to get it working in that later. I love using document.all (saves using getElementByID) but it just ain't available in other mainline browsers. Search engines and accessibility tools such as screen readers for partially sighted users benefit from using CSS too as there's no masses of nested tables to confuse the issue. Martin Parry Macromedia Certified Developer http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk -Original Message- From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2005 12:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we had to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent IE's oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm thinking about relatively small shops that don't have enormous resources devoted solely to QA. Specifically... - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and version? How many? - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that actually help your pages be more universally compatible? - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? - It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE installed on the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have separate machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe even 3? How else can you test? - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of browsers and versions that you need to support? Dave Merrill ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193172 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
Same here, since that covers probably over 97% of the market unless you develop in an area that you know has a very high % of say opera users or some other lesser used browser I found if you can get it to look decent in firefox, generally (with some exceptions) it'll be good in IE .. can't comment on how they display in the other browsers for the reason stated above -Original Message- From: ColdFusion Developer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions I do all development for FireFox, then fix the little things from IE and NetScape. Thats the only ones I deal with honestly. Dave Merrill wrote: >I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we had >to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent IE's >oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm >wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm thinking >about relatively small shops that don't have enormous resources devoted >solely to QA. > >Specifically... > >- Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and >version? How many? > >- Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that actually >help your pages be more universally compatible? > >- What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js >capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? > >- It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE installed on >the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have separate >machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe >even 3? How else can you test? > >- Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? > >- For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of >browsers and versions that you need to support? > >Dave Merrill > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193171 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
I do all development for FireFox, then fix the little things from IE and NetScape. Thats the only ones I deal with honestly. Dave Merrill wrote: >I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we had >to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent IE's >oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm >wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm thinking >about relatively small shops that don't have enormous resources devoted >solely to QA. > >Specifically... > >- Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and >version? How many? > >- Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that actually >help your pages be more universally compatible? > >- What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js >capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? > >- It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE installed on >the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have separate >machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe >even 3? How else can you test? > >- Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? > >- For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of >browsers and versions that you need to support? > >Dave Merrill > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193170 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
[SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions
I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we had to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent IE's oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm thinking about relatively small shops that don't have enormous resources devoted solely to QA. Specifically... - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and version? How many? - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that actually help your pages be more universally compatible? - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions? - It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE installed on the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have separate machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe even 3? How else can you test? - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines? - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of browsers and versions that you need to support? Dave Merrill ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193169 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)
> you need to create a DTD to encompass all these.. > W3C has a good example.. [XHTMLMOD] Well, we were talking about mime-types not DTD/Schema. BTW you don't need to create a DTD for mixing different XML languages inside the same document, just use different namespaces (I guess we are really OT now...) Massimo Foti DW tools: http://www.massimocorner.com CF tools: http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193168 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Hightlight Tag Broken, Verity Search Alternative?
On an alternate search solution, Macromedia included an alternate in devkit 3 called lindex, built on lucene (see Apache.org, under Jakarta). I think New Atlanta's BD may use this engine. Only pitfall is that its not multi-language. However, to quote the MM site: "Lindex, short for 'Lucene index,' is a high-performance, full-featured text search engine that allows developers to create document collections for easy indexing and quick searching. Because the Lindex interface is similar to Verity Search Engine, it will already be familiar to ColdFusion developers. The advantage of Lindex over Verity is that Lindex is pure Java and ColdFusion, so it can be ported to any platform, including Mac OS X." D -Original Message- From: Russ Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hightlight Tag Broken, Verity Search Alternative? All, I've got a couple of quick-hit bugs (hopefully) that are driving me batty. For starters, I work locally off of Win2k3 Server running mysql at home as a dev/test environment and then I have a production box running Linux & mysql. I'm pretty-well tested when it comes to being on current, stable versions, etc. etc. That said, upon pushing a site to production... I have a custom tag that is cf_highlight for highlighting text. When I run a search and append the &highlight=#searchterm# it MASSIVELY breaks the page on the site, where locally there is no issue and it works great (with the exception of actually figuring out how to apply a true "highlight" (background color)). I'm running Verity, and frankly, I find it a little confusing and more difficult than it seems to need to be. It seems as if it's going to be quite the undertaking to actually figure out how to search by specific parameters--basically, I'm wondering if anyone can make any recommendations as to an alternative search solution; this isn't a make-it or break-it feature on my site, and truthfully it's more there for my own experience and as a "nice to have", but I don't want to resort to plugging in someone else's "branded search" box or whatever. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! Russ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193167 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
