RE: JavaScript Wddx Deserializer

2005-02-26 Thread Adrian Lynch
You're post sounds like it's part of another thread so excuse me if I've
missed something.

cfwddx has the option to go from CF to JS, CF to WDDX, WDDX to CF and WDDX
to JS. Would one of the last two work for you?

Ade

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Subject: JavaScript Wddx Deserializer


The next step is to Wddx Deserialize however I tried wddxDes.js from
http://www.openwddx.org/downloads/

And it came with a bunch of errors. Does CF have a Deserializer.
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Re: jrun.dll on J2EE

2005-02-26 Thread Nick de Voil
 In that case, you might want to try using a different user agent, to see
the
 raw error message returned by the server. If you can get into the CF
 Administrator, you might also enable robust exception information.

It's an HTTP status 503. Here's the IIS log

#Fields: c-ip cs-username s-sitename s-ip s-port cs-method cs-uri-stem
cs-uri-query sc-status sc-win32-status sc-bytes cs-bytes time-taken
cs-version cs-host cs(User-Agent)
127.0.0.1 - W3SVC1 127.0.0.1 80 GET /x.cfm - 503 0 0 400 610 HTTP/1.1
127.0.0.1
Mozilla/5.0+(Windows;+U;+Windows+NT+5.1;+en-US;+rv:1.7.5)+Gecko/20041107+Fir
efox/1.0
127.0.0.1 - W3SVC1 127.0.0.1 80 GET /x.cfm - 503 0 0 482 0 HTTP/1.1
127.0.0.1
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1)+Opera+7.20++[en]
127.0.0.1 - W3SVC1 127.0.0.1 80 GET /x.cfm - 503 0 0 229 0 HTTP/1.1
127.0.0.1 amaya/8.1b+libwww/5.4.0
127.0.0.1 - W3SVC1 127.0.0.1 80 GET /x.cfm - 503 0 0 265 0 HTTP/1.0
127.0.0.1 Mozilla/4.7+[en-gb]+(WinNT;+I)
127.0.0.1 - W3SVC1 127.0.0.1 80 GET /x.cfm - 503 0 0 194 0 HTTP/1.0
127.0.0.1 Lynx/2.8.3rel.1+libwww-FM/2.14FM
127.0.0.1 - W3SVC1 127.0.0.1 80 GET /x.cfm - 503 0 0 101 0 HTTP/1.0
127.0.0.1 Wget/1.8.1

All those different browsers return variants on the same theme: nothing
whatsoever, empty document, unexpected network error etc.

Robust debugging is on (as I said, CF is fine with the builtin web server so
I can use the administrator) but since nothing is getting back to the
browser, that makes no difference.

It occurred to me that the reason why JSPs are working and CFM aren't is
probably connected with the fact that they are being handled by different
Enterprise Applications within the server. So IIS is pointing all the
requests at the cfusion server, but within that the JSPs are being handled
by default-ear and CFMs are supposed to be handled by Macromedia
ColdFusion MX, i.e. cfusion-ear.

I've been trying to figure out where this division of responsibilities is
configured. I see that in cfusion/cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/WEB-INF the
web.xml file contains servlet-mappings for .cfm, .cfc and .cfml, and the
same in j2ee-web.xml (what is this file for?). Whereas the web.xml in
cfusion/default-ear/default-war/WEB-INF contains no servlet mappings at all.
However, further up, at the server level, in cfusion/SERVER-INF, there is a
servlet mapping for .jsp. I don't know enough about JRun to know how these
files will be used - but could there be something wrong here?

Should I even have 2 different Enterprise Applications within the cfusion
server?

Thanks

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OK, the URL would be handy, yes???

2005-02-26 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Sorry...

http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/sqlsurveyor

There ya have it... the SQLSurveyor beta location.

The login is admin_cmg / admin.

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SQLSurveyor with NEW DAO Generator Beta site ready for a good, solid thrashing...

2005-02-26 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
OK, folks... I've been talking about it for ages. Now I'm ready to
show it off for real.

I've got the SQLSurveyor beta in a state that I'm happy enough with to
be ready to have whomever wishes bang at it good and then send it out.
It's got some new features, and I've updated the code in many, many
ways.

There's a few new features... first, internally, there's no inline
CFSTOREDPROC calls. They've all been offloaded to a series of CFCs
that are driven by a Factory object. In this version the page
variable's scope is acting as a databus between the CFC results and
the page output. In later versions all will be converted to CFCs.

Also new is a DAO generator that creates CRUD methods for any given
table within a CF datasource. I've got larger plans for the DAO
generator... but for now it works well and creates a simple DAO
interface. It's lots faster than I expected, but it works really nice.
I can create a DAO for a table of 100 columns as fast as I can for a
table with 3.

We've also worked out a new pricing plan. The intention is to release
the basic product (table/view/sproc viewer with basic query and list
outputs) for $25, and the upgrade with all the basics plus the
DAO-generator for $39..

There's a Yahoo group set up for the product, and for bugs/feature
requests... right now, it's set up for moderator pre-approval for new
members, so just drop me a note and I'll send you an invite if you're
interested. BY MONDAY I'll have our corporate website at
http://www.web-relevant.com set up with the paypal link, login
capabilities, and download...

URL for testing is http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/sqlsurveyor and
the access information is admin_cmg / admin.

Thanks for all your support...

Laterz,
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Re: Looking for a good web based html editor

2005-02-26 Thread Dan O'Keefe
For the tinyMCE users here, a couple of questions if I could. I am
trying this product after using fckEditor for a while. I have 2 issues
keeping me from implementing it right now. The first being there are
not negative font sizes, like size -1, size -2, etc. The size 1
content when sent to a word doc becomes size 12 and I need to make it
smaller. The second issue is when I try to view the HTML I get a An
error occurred while attempting to establish a connection to the
service. error in the pop-up window.

Thanks,

Dan


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:03:02 -0600, Kevin Graeme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently mentioned it in a room with a product team from a big software
 company. I said it with a straight face and there was a flurry of flickering
 glances as they looked at each other to figure out if I actually said what
 they thought I said.
 
 From intial testing, it looks like the code generated by TinyMCE works
 better for us.
 
 -Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:19 AM
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 Subject: Re: Looking for a good web based html editor
 
 As stated previously, I don't like the name! I like not having to curse when
 talking about my editors!
 
 :)
 
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RE: Looking for a good web based html editor

2005-02-26 Thread James Holmes
I would use CSS rather than font sizes if at all possible, but that may not
suit in this case (it depends on how Word handles it).

As for the second issue, this occurs when you use the advanced view and
click the HTML button?

-Original Message-
From: Dan O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2005 8:27 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Looking for a good web based html editor

For the tinyMCE users here, a couple of questions if I could. I am trying
this product after using fckEditor for a while. I have 2 issues keeping me
from implementing it right now. The first being there are not negative font
sizes, like size -1, size -2, etc. The size 1 content when sent to a word
doc becomes size 12 and I need to make it smaller. The second issue is when
I try to view the HTML I get a An error occurred while attempting to
establish a connection to the service. error in the pop-up window.

Thanks,

Dan


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:03:02 -0600, Kevin Graeme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I recently mentioned it in a room with a product team from a big 
 software company. I said it with a straight face and there was a 
 flurry of flickering glances as they looked at each other to figure 
 out if I actually said what they thought I said.
 
 From intial testing, it looks like the code generated by TinyMCE works 
 better for us.
 
 -Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:19 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Looking for a good web based html editor
 
 As stated previously, I don't like the name! I like not having to 
 curse when talking about my editors!
 
 :)
 
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RE: SQLSurveyor with NEW DAO Generator Beta site ready for a good , solid thrashing...

2005-02-26 Thread James Holmes
Hey, that's actually pretty cool.  

-Original Message-
From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2005 6:44 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQLSurveyor with NEW DAO Generator Beta site ready for a good,
solid thrashing...

OK, folks... I've been talking about it for ages. Now I'm ready to show it
off for real.

I've got the SQLSurveyor beta in a state that I'm happy enough with to be
ready to have whomever wishes bang at it good and then send it out.
It's got some new features, and I've updated the code in many, many ways.

There's a few new features... first, internally, there's no inline
CFSTOREDPROC calls. They've all been offloaded to a series of CFCs that are
driven by a Factory object. In this version the page variable's scope is
acting as a databus between the CFC results and the page output. In later
versions all will be converted to CFCs.

Also new is a DAO generator that creates CRUD methods for any given table
within a CF datasource. I've got larger plans for the DAO generator... but
for now it works well and creates a simple DAO interface. It's lots faster
than I expected, but it works really nice.
I can create a DAO for a table of 100 columns as fast as I can for a table
with 3.

We've also worked out a new pricing plan. The intention is to release the
basic product (table/view/sproc viewer with basic query and list
outputs) for $25, and the upgrade with all the basics plus the DAO-generator
for $39..

There's a Yahoo group set up for the product, and for bugs/feature
requests... right now, it's set up for moderator pre-approval for new
members, so just drop me a note and I'll send you an invite if you're
interested. BY MONDAY I'll have our corporate website at
http://www.web-relevant.com set up with the paypal link, login capabilities,
and download...

URL for testing is http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/sqlsurveyor and the
access information is admin_cmg / admin.

Thanks for all your support...

Laterz,
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SUCCESS!!! I have CF7 going!!! Oh! the relief!

2005-02-26 Thread Mike Kear
As I'm sure you are all aware, I've had a rather eventful installation
experience, installing CFMX7 on my WinXpPro dev machine, so I can get
to know CF7.  It's got a bit heated, and I've clearly offended a few
people by being so insistent and persistent, but you'll all be as
relieved as I am to learn that my CF7 is now going!

I decided with some help (detailed below) that the problem wasn't the
CFMX7 installer but windows,  and that CFMX7 either didnt detect the
problem, or did but didn't tell me any way what the problem was.   I
cleaned out a lot of applicatoins that are not used any more (mostly
shareware) and got rid of a lot of servicse I dont use,  cleared off
all traces of CFMX from my system, then tried another install.  I
installed using the built-in web server, and BINGO! - a working
installation.

Thanks be to: 

* Neil Robertson-Ravo from UK who hung around last night for 5 and a
half hours working through the problem with me by MSN Instant
messenger,   and helped me decide it wasnt CF but windows causing the
problem AND

* Michael Tangorre who was quick to offer help, and in fact spent
several hours today using the remote desktop while his fiance called
him from upstairs (now THERE's dedication to helping a fellow
traveller!!)   and who advised me to get rid of all the old rubbish on
my system,   AND

* Dave Watts,  who gave me the suggestion that did the trick 

And also, thanks to Jochem van Dieten and Steven Erat of Macromedia
Support, both of whom offered to spend their own time by breeze or
remote desktop to help me work out what was stopping this installer
from doing what it should do.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!   You people are Good People.

A couple of things that could be improved in the ColdFusion installer:  

*  When the installer fails, there is never an indication as to why it
fails.  I think there ought to be.

*  In the docs, there is a page headed Verifying the installation
with a number of checks to make sure it's all set up correctly.  But
there is no link to documentation about what to do if it's not.   It
wouldnt take a lot of effort for someone to just put a link to the
support notes describing how to fix what's broken.

*  If there is an app running on the system that will break the
installer, how hard should it be to search for it in the preparatory
stage of the installer, then halt the instaler if it's present, with a
warning, asking the user to close it down before proceeding.

* Despite all the assurances, there does appear to be issues with the
installer and IIS5.1.  Yes, a great many people have installed it
successfully with IIS, but also quite a few, such as myself and others
who have written to me who DO have problems with IIS.

In my case, these things could have saved me a LOT of time installing
my CF7, and would certainly have saved all of you on CF-Talk a lot of
anguish with all my posts on the topic.

Anyway, its done now, and i'm now running on the built-in web server.

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Re: sql question

2005-02-26 Thread Claude Schneegans
 In all those years, you've never had a user come back and say, You know

that feature we said we'd never need - well we need it

Sometimes, but much less often than I have seen users never use a feature
they were claiming not being able to live without.

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RE: jrun.dll on J2EE

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 It occurred to me that the reason why JSPs are working and 
 CFM aren't is probably connected with the fact that they are 
 being handled by different Enterprise Applications within the 
 server. So IIS is pointing all the requests at the cfusion 
 server, but within that the JSPs are being handled by 
 default-ear and CFMs are supposed to be handled by 
 Macromedia ColdFusion MX, i.e. cfusion-ear.
 
 I've been trying to figure out where this division of 
 responsibilities is configured. I see that in 
 cfusion/cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/WEB-INF the web.xml file 
 contains servlet-mappings for .cfm, .cfc and .cfml, and the 
 same in j2ee-web.xml (what is this file for?). Whereas the 
 web.xml in cfusion/default-ear/default-war/WEB-INF contains 
 no servlet mappings at all.
 However, further up, at the server level, in 
 cfusion/SERVER-INF, there is a servlet mapping for .jsp. I 
 don't know enough about JRun to know how these files will be 
 used - but could there be something wrong here?
 
 Should I even have 2 different Enterprise Applications within 
 the cfusion server?

OK. In general, you shouldn't need to have two different enterprise
applications within the same JRun server instance. Each one can be deployed
within its own server. The CF EAR can handle JSP and servlet requests if you
want to run a Java web app within the same server instance.

When you installed CFMX, how exactly did you do it? Did you install it onto
an existing JRun server? If your existing JRun server was already configured
to work with IIS, it won't automatically handle CF requests - there's a
little check box within the web server configuration tool that you'd need to
check when you define the connection.

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RE: sql question

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
  How long does it take to create a linking table and a 
  handful of SQL statements,
 
 Too long if it is not necessary.

You could have done it several times over in the time you spent here
justifying not doing it.

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RE: SUCCESS!!! I have CF7 going!!! Oh! the relief!

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 As I'm sure you are all aware, I've had a rather eventful 
 installation experience, installing CFMX7 on my WinXpPro dev 
 machine, so I can get to know CF7.  It's got a bit heated, 
 and I've clearly offended a few people by being so insistent 
 and persistent, but you'll all be as relieved as I am to 
 learn that my CF7 is now going!

Congratulations!

 *  When the installer fails, there is never an indication as 
 to why it fails.  I think there ought to be.

Actually, it does write a log file somewhere. Honestly, since I haven't run
into too many installation problems I don't know how useful it is, but it
can't hurt I guess.

 *  In the docs, there is a page headed Verifying the 
 installation with a number of checks to make sure it's 
 all set up correctly. But there is no link to documentation 
 about what to do if it's not. It wouldnt take a lot of 
 effort for someone to just put a link to the support notes 
 describing how to fix what's broken.

Unfortunately, I suspect this would be harder than it seems. After all,
there are many reasons why the install might fail.

 *  If there is an app running on the system that will break 
 the installer, how hard should it be to search for it in the 
 preparatory stage of the installer, then halt the instaler if 
 it's present, with a warning, asking the user to close it 
 down before proceeding.

For this approach to work, Macromedia would have to know about every
possible conflict between their server product and all the things that might
end up on a Windows XP desktop, including spyware/adware/etc. Keep in mind
that they, like most other companies, have limited QA resources. Personally,
I'd rather they spend those resources elsewhere.

 * Despite all the assurances, there does appear to be issues 
 with the installer and IIS5.1.  Yes, a great many people have 
 installed it successfully with IIS, but also quite a few, 
 such as myself and others who have written to me who DO have 
 problems with IIS.

I suspect that these problems aren't with IIS specifically, but rather with
running the web server configuration tool. This Java tool unpacks a library,
which is then configured to send messages from your web server to JRun via
TCP ports. There are all kinds of potential problems along the way -
java.exe has to be in the path to run it, there might be something else
using the specified ports already, there might be a software firewall or
something blocking access to those ports, etc. I'm pretty sure that there
was some sort of TCP connectivity problem on your machine when we were
trying to set up CFMX 6.1 to work with IIS.

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Re: SUCCESS!!! I have CF7 going!!! Oh! the relief!

2005-02-26 Thread Steven Erat
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:49:00 +1100, Mike Kear wrote:
 ...you'll all be as
 relieved as I am to learn that my CF7 is now going!

Congratulations Mike!


 I decided with some help (detailed below) that the problem wasn't the
 CFMX7 installer but windows,  ... I
 installed using the built-in web server, and BINGO! - a working
 installation.
 ...
 *  When the installer fails, there is never an indication as to why it
 fails.  I think there ought to be.
 ...
 * Despite all the assurances, there does appear to be issues with the
 installer and IIS5.1.  Yes, a great many people have installed it
 successfully with IIS, but also quite a few, such as myself and others
 who have written to me who DO have problems with IIS.
 ...
 Anyway, its done now, and i'm now running on the built-in web server.
 

Your report tells me that the CFMX 7 installer *worked correctly* but
the webserver configuration tool wsconfig did not work.  You initially
installed CF and seleced the option to configure an external webserver
all in one.  The installer worked, but since wsconfig failed you
weren't able to get into the ColdFusion Administrator to complete the
Setup Wizard.   Not being able to open the CFAdmin as the installer
tells you is enough to convince most people that the *whole
installation* failed, which it did not.

At that time when it appeared that CFMX7 was not installed, if you
would have searched the directory tree you would have found the
jrun.xml configuration file.  There you could have found the
WebService section and set disabled to false, and then once CF was
restarted it would have been running on the built in webserver port
and still would be listening on the JRun Proxy Port for connections
from IIS.  This is all documented in numerous locations, and this is
one of the first things we have customers try when they claim that
ColdFusion MX did not install properly.

On the topic of documentation, CFMX 7 is built upon the stable base of
CFMX 6.1 but has all the new bells whistles and features that Damon
and his crew worked so hard on.  However, this means that nearly all
the CFMX 6.1 documentation can be applied to CFMX 7 installations. 
When I referred you to a CFMX 6.1 doc earlier this week I understood
that this was a common understanding.  In fact, while the CFMX7
wsconfig tool has been improved from CFMX6.1, I would speculate that
nearly 95%+ of the old docs apply to the current wsconfig version. If
nothing else, the CFMX 6.1 docs would give you a good place to start
if the equivalent doc for CFMX 7 hasn't been published.

Utimately, I think that your Windows server was blocking one of the
ports used by wsconfig when it attempted to configure IIS.  In fact, I
would bet that even now with your *working* installation that if you
ran wsconfig it would probably not permit you to connect to IIS.  More
than likely, you have a firewall blocking wsconfig such as Windows XP
SP2 firewall, Zone Alarm, MacAfee, or Norton.  I have a blog entry,
listed below, that shows how wsconfig will attempt to connect to the
JNDI port (often 2901) and then will also try to connect to JRun on an
variable port that is not defined in any configuration file and will
vary.   So even if you could start the ColdFusion process and use
netstat to see that the JNDI port was active and then you confirmed
that you could connect by telnet to the port (telnet localhost 2901),
even then if this other unpredictable port were being blocked then
wsconfig would fail.

On the topic of warnings or other notifications that the wsconfig
didn't work right, using the wsconfig -v option would have presented
you with an error and a short list of possible reasons for why it
didn't work.   Understanding wsconfig is part of the skillset involved
in being an Administrator for a ColdFusion MX server.

So I strongly suspect that your CFMX 7 server was in fact installed,
but not properly hooked up to IIS.  Being able to confirm or reject
that important distinction goes a long way towards recruiting help
from others.

Related info (watch the wrap):

http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=aliasalias=CouldNotConnectJNDIPort
http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=aliasalias=WsconfigRandPort

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Re: sql question

2005-02-26 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
  In all those years, you've never had a user come back
  and say, You know

that feature we said we'd never need - well we need it

 Sometimes, but much less often than I have seen users
 never use a feature
 they were claiming not being able to live without.

Or never use that feature they said they would never need and then
later discovered they needed. I added a rather involved feature to an
application at my day job recently, just so that one of our largest
clients (who it was mostly implemented for) could then turn around and
ask us to provide them with a custom feature to allow them to not use
it 90% of the time. Although ultimately this feature in particular
happens to be rather useful to most of the rest of our clients, so
it's not a huge loss.


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Re: Reason to *not* store lots of data in Application scope?

2005-02-26 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Personally, I've always used the session scope more heavily than the
application scope. However, if you tinker with the gutz ot Tartan,
Fusebox, MachII and any of a number of other products, they're all
using the application scope HEAVILY. Couple that with the availability
of the application scope tools in application.cfc (simply by example)
and even Ray Camden's RAM-caching custom tag, and you can really only
arrive at one conclusion:

Use it! Use it lots!!! Use the application scope, please, that's WHAT
IT'S THERE FOR.

I'd recommend an asynchronous process to update the application scope
data, i.e. a cron job in CFADMIN to create the data. Use a temp
application var that only it knows about to create the data for the
application scope every half-hour or whatever, and then at the last
second use a named lock to do structInsert(application, cacheData,
cronCacheData,true). I don't have time to write out all the benefits
from that method, but they should be fairly obvious. Speed, minimal
locking, complete flexibility, abstraction from users, time-based
instead of click-based... I used this on a project with a process that
genned a PDF containg 6 pages of CFM-created GANTT charts. I'm still
uber-proud of that site. Saved me countless amounts of trouble.

JPA said that adding RAM to a server is cheaper than
development/testing, and he makes a great point. The ONLY GOTCHA with
using the application scope: DO it RIGHT. Account for updates and the
locking they may or may not require depending on how you implement
them... just insure that they happen in an orderly and controlled
fashion. Don't use scope locks, use named locks, and if you want to,
simply combine static HTML generation with the application scope and
cache a completed HTML file. Fusebox4 does it, and Camden's RAM cache
does it.

I will argue this point with Kam, though. There isn't even romotely
enough justification to use getPageScope() here. It's an unsupported
feature, and it's to be used at ones own risk... it should require
heavy justification before incorporating it into the application.
Using it to save a few cycles when it would be just as easy to create
a scheduled template, even if it uses cfsavecontent and cffile
action=write is a Really Bad Idea, especially from a standards
perspective. I want my code to be as widely runnable and as simple as
possible. From a CF perspective that means standards, and to start
pulling the underlying Java into CF for no truly justifyable reason
is... well... a Really Bad Idea.

Laterz,
J


On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:18:33 -0700, Figy, Kam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd be less worried about the speed of serving or ram usage as I would
 how long the X minutes between reloads is. Re-grabbing several MB of
 data from a database is going to make your site speed crawl while it
 happens, not to mention you'd need to carefully cflock the application
 scope writes to ensure your content was coherent - so it'd all be
 single-threaded as well.
 
 Overall I agree with the people who are suggesting static publishing,
 since a static HTML page is probably as fast as a cf page coming out of
 the application scope. As a hybrid solution, or if securing pages is
 needed, consider publishing the static pages outside the web root and
 using a CF page and getPageContext().include() - which doesn't have CF
 parse the include if it's a static type (iirc).
 
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What would cause this?

2005-02-26 Thread G . Brown
I received a number of errors in my event viewer this morning.

There were about 25 errors, spaced over about 2 hours.

This is the error:
Failure to connect to url: http://127.0.0.1/cfide/mib/getmetricdataXML.cfm.;

This was followed by a success report, about 20 seconds later, each time.

During this time, my website monitoring service stated that my website was down.

I'm using CF 5. 

My thoughts:
- This wouldn't be an external connection issue, as the MIB is connecting to 
localhost, which would work if the network was down anyway.
- CF reported no crashes or restarts.  Logs were clear.
- IIS reported no crashes or restarts.
- I am using the application.cfm fix for MIB, as recommended by allaire.
- IIS Log files show nothing odd.
- The time period does correspond with a backup process, but I can't imagine 
that this would block local connections.
- Not a load issue, as this happened prior to 4am.

I restarted CF and IIS, the problem continued for about 20 minutes, then never 
came back.  During this time, I was able to browse the site from an external 
and internal connection, but MIB reported periodic failures.

Since none of my reporting or logging facilites reported any problems, I'm 
really not even sure where to start with this one.  Some help would be 
appreciated!

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Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.

2005-02-26 Thread Steven Erat
Updating this thread with a link to the new thread having the resolution.
(Watch the wrap!)
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/threadid:38658/forumid:4

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Re: What would cause this?

2005-02-26 Thread Steven Erat
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:49:14 -0400, G. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I received a number of errors in my event viewer this morning.
 
 There were about 25 errors, spaced over about 2 hours.
 
 This is the error:
 Failure to connect to url: http://127.0.0.1/cfide/mib/getmetricdataXML.cfm.;
 
 This was followed by a success report, about 20 seconds later, each time.


Could it be this?:

The ColdFusion Server MIB component generates an error message
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18158


Here's a thread discussing it, but haven't read it completely:
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=cf-talk_houseoffusion_comrestrict=exclude=words=AllaireMIB


And this other thread from the archives looks useful:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messagesthreadid=15266forumid=4

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RE: CF MX and CF 5 accessing the same client database storage for one big application.

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 But I use variables within the clientdb that tells me if the 
 user is logged in and what permissions they have.  Plus keep 
 track of how long they've been idle, so we can log them off, 
 but not lose any of the data they were working on.

Unfortunately, there aren't any especially good solutions for your problem
that I can see. I think I would avoid client variables entirely in your
case, and just write code that uses a common database of your own design and
stores appropriate data within the Session scope. Or, just use all one
version of CF instead of two.

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RE: Passing SQL nText to another page

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 No the standard for HTTP only allows a url string to have a 
 few thousand characters if I remember correctly ...

Actually, I don't think there's any limitation on URL lengths within the
HTTP specification. However, there are certainly limitations within specific
browsers and servers:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q208427/

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RE: Upgrading and datasources

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 Indeed the MS driver only supports TCP/IP as a communication 
 protocol and SQL Server authentication.

While all that may be true, we were talking about the DataDirect Connect
driver shipped with CFMX, not the MS driver.

 You could, however use jTDS: it works both over TCP/IP and 
 named pipes and supports three types of authentication 
 (SQL Server, Windows authentication providing a user name 
 and password and Windows authentication using a native 
 Single Sign On library). 

I wasn't aware of all that. In the case of Windows authentication using a
native SSO library, do you have to run CFMX as the specific Windows user
against which you want to perform authentication?

 jTDS is also more stable and a faster than the MS driver.

Have you performed benchmarks to this effect? Can you share the benchmark
results and the steps you went through to perform your tests? How does it
compare to DataDirect and JTurbo?

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RE: CFMX 6.1 Standard Questions

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 I'm basing my question on an article I read on the Macromedia 
 site, Implementing Multitier Hardware Load Balancing with 
 ColdFusion MX for J2EE or JRun, by Frank DeRienzo and 
 Brandon Purcell. That article
 states:
 
 ...put all HTML files in a /html folder and place all images 
 underneath the web server root. In a site with a significant 
 amount of static content you will see a significant 
 improvement in throughput and pages/sec by separating the 
 content; in some cases, the performance improves 200-300%.
 
 We have a decent amount of static content and was just 
 wondering if it is something to investigate further.

It's easy enough to get around this even with CFMX Standard, if you have
enough static content to warrant it, using separate virtual servers or
directories not configured to process CFMX requests as described previously.

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RE: IIS Append to the Request Header

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 Can IIS append to the request header before it passes 
 it off the CF?

It could, via a custom ISAPI filter that had a higher priority level than
CF's ISAPI filter. I don't know if there are any third-party filters
available that let you append arbitrary information, but there are filters
that rewrite requests a la Apache's mod_rewrite for example.

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XMLhttpRequest returns with a wddxpacket and white spaces

2005-02-26 Thread Dan Plesse
My XMLhttpRequest object is returning with a wddxpacket and two whole lines
of white spaces which I like to remove. I didn't know cfc's returned with
white spaces. 

Ex. In the browser source window
//white space or /n 
//white space or /n 
wddxPacket
version='1.0'header/datastring0/string/data/wddxPacket 

I think the white spaces are causing wddxDes errors too. 

Error from wddxDes.js
Error: str.split is not a function 
Source File: http://dan:8500/wddxDes.js
Line: 758

alert(response was+req.responseText+:);

between the was and wddx is a large space. 

I was wondering if anyone has deserialized WDDX packets from CF and removed
the white space returned by a CFC? 

My Code: 
MyDeser = new WddxDeserializer;
Books = MyDeser.deserialize(req);

When I view the cfc from the browser it returns with at least two lines of
white space which can't be good. 

I have tried cfreturn trim(helloworld) but I think the white spaces are
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RE: MX CHR(10)

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 Based on the findings from Dave's post, I think you would be 
 right. Do you know of any binary file viewing tools? I know 
 Norton Utilities had one a long time ago, but not sure of 
 current options. I could google it but if you have experience 
 with any, let me know.

Ultraedit is very nice, but not free. This is a useful free hex editor:

http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html

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RE: Getting IPTC data into a database

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 But, I am not shy-- if a better way exists, I promote it... 
 and take the flack.

Of course, a better way is often a matter of opinion.

 That is true, but anyone who knows Linux/Unix knows OS X... 
 at least at the CLI-level.

It's still a different OS, and requires different maintenance tools and so
forth. Take patch management, for example. If you're using a single Linux
distribution, you can use a single patch management toolset.

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RE: Using Verity Collections Generated on Different Server

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 I'll look into that--the issue is that the app from 
 which I'm getting these Verity collections (a large 
 knowledge management application) is running on CF 5 
 and they have no plans to upgrade those servers. (I'm 
 on CFMX 6.1 on this particular server right now but 
 we already got our CFMX 7 upgrade.)

CF 5 can also use an external Verity K2 server. It's a little harder to set
up with CF 5, but you might be able to keep all the collections in one
place.

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RE: Webservices Complex data Types

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 Since the service is over SSL.. can't really use TCPmon
 to look at the packet.. is there any way to grab the 
 SOAPEnvelope.. or the body..

You can use a recording proxy on one of the endpoints, in this case the
client. You can have the recording proxy use SSL to communicate with the
server, but you can communicate with the proxy on the client using plain old
HTTP. Check out Charles for this:

http://www.xk72.com/charles/

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Re: What would cause this?

2005-02-26 Thread G . Brown
I checked these things.
The Macromedia KB error wouldn't apply, as I'm using their fix already.

The other two, I'm not sure - this server has been online awhile, and has never 
had this problem.  If it were either of those two, I think it would have 
manifested itself previously...

Geoff B


 Could it be this?:
 
 The ColdFusion Server MIB component generates an error message
 http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18158
 
 
 Here's a thread discussing it, but haven't read it completely:
 http://www.mail-archive.
com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=short 
config=cf-talk_houseoffusion_comrestrict=exclude=words=AllaireMIB
 
 
 And this other thread from the archives looks useful:
 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.
 cfm/method=messagesthreadid=15266forumid=4
 
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access w username and password..

2005-02-26 Thread GM
Okay, I have to be doing something wrong..
I can't get the username and password to work with CF and Access.
In Coldfusion (application.cfm) I have..
cfset application.dbUserName = Admin
cfset application.dbPassword = xx
In the functions I have..
 cfquery name=NextBusinessID datasource=bindex 
password=#application.dbPassword# username=#application.dbUserName# 
I get this error..
SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check 
your username, password, URL, and other connectivity info. 

If I remove the password from the DB and remove those from the function I dont 
get an error and the page loads fine.
Maybe I'm setting the password wrong.. first off I dont see a username option..
I go into access (exclusive mode) and then choose the Tools menu and then 
Security and then Set Database Password.
I'm assuming that Admin is the username because when I go into User and Group 
Permissions I see Current User: Admin.
Can you help me out.. what am I doing wrong?
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Re: Upgrading and datasources

2005-02-26 Thread Alin Sinpalean
While all that may be true, we were talking about the DataDirect Connect
driver shipped with CFMX, not the MS driver.

Sorry, I'm not very famililar (if at all) with CF. It's just that the 
DataDirect driver is the parent of _a lot_ of the JDBC drivers out there 
(including the MS, BEA and IBM ones) and I was a bit confused by earlier posts 
I've seen on CF forums. And although the DataDirect driver is (I have to admit) 
the most stable and tested SQL Server drivers it's definitely not the fastest 
(and also, some of its offspring, such as the MS driver, is based on older much 
more unstable versions).

 You could, however use jTDS: it works both over TCP/IP and 
 named pipes and supports three types of authentication 
 (SQL Server, Windows authentication providing a user name 
 and password and Windows authentication using a native 
 Single Sign On library). 

I wasn't aware of all that. In the case of Windows authentication using a
native SSO library, do you have to run CFMX as the specific Windows user
against which you want to perform authentication?

To be totally honest, I don't know for sure. I'm an almost 100% Java programmer 
and I use Linux most of the time. But if you ask this question on the jTDS 
forums you will definitely get an answer. And a warning: we have just 
discovered a bug in the SSO library, which being native can crash and take down 
the whole JVM; we have a patch submitted and we're working on it but we do not 
recommend using SSO in production yet.

 jTDS is also more stable and a faster than the MS driver.

Have you performed benchmarks to this effect? Can you share the benchmark
results and the steps you went through to perform your tests? How does it
compare to DataDirect and JTurbo?

We have performed a lot of benchmarks, but major vendors such as DataDirect and 
JNetDirect (not sure about NewAtlanta) do not allow publishing of benchmark 
results produced using their drivers. I think it's quite obvious why. There are 
a couple of links to benchmarks provided by some commercial vendors on the jTDS 
homepage ( http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ ) and some older benchmark results also 
on the jTDS site ( http://jtds.sourceforge.net/benchTest.html ). Running the 
benchmarks is really straightforward and both come with pretty detailed READMEs.

Alin,
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RE: Passing SQL nText to another page

2005-02-26 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Ahh... so it's a pragmatic issue rather than a specification issue...
I never really looked into it thoroughly.

 No the standard for HTTP only allows a url string to have
 a
 few thousand characters if I remember correctly ...

 Actually, I don't think there's any limitation on URL
 lengths within the
 HTTP specification. However, there are certainly
 limitations within specific
 browsers and servers:

 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q208427/

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RE: Upgrading and datasources

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Watts
 Sorry, I'm not very famililar (if at all) with CF. It's just 
 that the DataDirect driver is the parent of _a lot_ of the 
 JDBC drivers out there (including the MS, BEA and IBM ones) 
 and I was a bit confused by earlier posts I've seen on CF 
 forums. And although the DataDirect driver is (I have to 
 admit) the most stable and tested SQL Server drivers it's 
 definitely not the fastest (and also, some of its offspring, 
 such as the MS driver, is based on older much more unstable 
 versions).

Previous versions of the MS JDBC driver were licensed from DataDirect, but
it's my understanding that the current one is not based on any DataDirect
code. As for stability, I've seen results all over the place, with the
DataDirect driver sometimes being more stable than the new MS one, sometimes
being less stable.

 We have performed a lot of benchmarks, but major vendors such 
 as DataDirect and JNetDirect (not sure about NewAtlanta) do 
 not allow publishing of benchmark results produced using 
 their drivers. I think it's quite obvious why. There are a 
 couple of links to benchmarks provided by some commercial 
 vendors on the jTDS homepage ( http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ ) 
 and some older benchmark results also on the jTDS site ( 
 http://jtds.sourceforge.net/benchTest.html ). Running the 
 benchmarks is really straightforward and both come with 
 pretty detailed READMEs.

I've heard a few people say good things about jTDS, but I don't have any
experience with it myself. I'll have to check it out.

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adding table to Query?

2005-02-26 Thread Roberto Perez
Hi all,

With help from the list (much appreciated  :-) )  I set up my first inner 
join with a linking table. My query, which works great, looks like this:

SELECT *
FROM (words_tb INNER JOIN meanings_tb
  ON words_tb.word = meanings_tb.wordFK)
  INNER JOIN categories_tb
  ON categories_tb.IDC = meanings_tb.IDCFK
  WHERE words_tb.word = '#form.word#'


My problem is, the table meanings_tb has another associated table called 
number_tb, a sister to categories_tb. Both number_tb and 
categories_tb feed data to meanings_tb via a one-to-many relationship 
through IDCFK (for categories) and IDNFK (for number).

My question is, how would I go about adding the fourth table (number_tb) 
to the query? Do I have to nest an INNER JOIN that captures the 
relationship between Meanings, Categories, and Number, inside the main 
INNER JOIN between Words and Meanings?
(Note: since this is Access, I've found out the parentheses are not optional)

Thanks in advance for your answers,


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Re: What would cause this?

2005-02-26 Thread G . Brown
Ok,
This might be a long shot...

After some research, I found that at the same time that these errors started 
appearing, the hard drive on my backup server had filled up.  At that time, the 
backup server was copying files from the webroot of the server that received 
the MIB errors.

I'm not sure WHY that would happen, as there was nothing wrong with the primary 
server, but... it seems to correspond to the MIB events almost to the minute.

So far, I haven't seen the errors again... 

Geoff B

 I checked these things.
 The Macromedia KB error wouldn't apply, as I'm using their fix already.
 
 
 The other two, I'm not sure - this server has been online awhile, and 
 has never had this problem.  If it were either of those two, I think 
 it would have manifested itself previously...
 
 Geoff B
 
 
  Could it be this?:
  
  The ColdFusion Server MIB component generates an error message
  http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.
 cfm?id=tn_18158
  
  
  Here's a thread discussing it, but haven't read it completely:
  http://www.mail-archive.
 com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=short 
 config=cf-talk_houseoffusion_comrestrict=exclude=words=AllaireMIB
  
  
  And this other thread from the archives looks useful:
  http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.
  cfm/method=messagesthreadid=15266forumid=4
  
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Re: Reason to *not* store lots of data in Application scope?

2005-02-26 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
OOPS, do I feel a little dumb at the moment...

So the PageContext is not an unsupported feature.

Sorry for any frustration or confusion I may have caused...

Blushingly yours...

J


On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:56:34 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Personally, I've always used the session scope more heavily than the
 application scope. However, if you tinker with the gutz ot Tartan,
 Fusebox, MachII and any of a number of other products, they're all
 using the application scope HEAVILY. Couple that with the availability
 of the application scope tools in application.cfc (simply by example)
 and even Ray Camden's RAM-caching custom tag, and you can really only
 arrive at one conclusion:
 
 Use it! Use it lots!!! Use the application scope, please, that's WHAT
 IT'S THERE FOR.
 
 I'd recommend an asynchronous process to update the application scope
 data, i.e. a cron job in CFADMIN to create the data. Use a temp
 application var that only it knows about to create the data for the
 application scope every half-hour or whatever, and then at the last
 second use a named lock to do structInsert(application, cacheData,
 cronCacheData,true). I don't have time to write out all the benefits
 from that method, but they should be fairly obvious. Speed, minimal
 locking, complete flexibility, abstraction from users, time-based
 instead of click-based... I used this on a project with a process that
 genned a PDF containg 6 pages of CFM-created GANTT charts. I'm still
 uber-proud of that site. Saved me countless amounts of trouble.
 
 JPA said that adding RAM to a server is cheaper than
 development/testing, and he makes a great point. The ONLY GOTCHA with
 using the application scope: DO it RIGHT. Account for updates and the
 locking they may or may not require depending on how you implement
 them... just insure that they happen in an orderly and controlled
 fashion. Don't use scope locks, use named locks, and if you want to,
 simply combine static HTML generation with the application scope and
 cache a completed HTML file. Fusebox4 does it, and Camden's RAM cache
 does it.
 
 I will argue this point with Kam, though. There isn't even romotely
 enough justification to use getPageScope() here. It's an unsupported
 feature, and it's to be used at ones own risk... it should require
 heavy justification before incorporating it into the application.
 Using it to save a few cycles when it would be just as easy to create
 a scheduled template, even if it uses cfsavecontent and cffile
 action=write is a Really Bad Idea, especially from a standards
 perspective. I want my code to be as widely runnable and as simple as
 possible. From a CF perspective that means standards, and to start
 pulling the underlying Java into CF for no truly justifyable reason
 is... well... a Really Bad Idea.
 
 Laterz,
 J
 
 
 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:18:33 -0700, Figy, Kam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd be less worried about the speed of serving or ram usage as I would
  how long the X minutes between reloads is. Re-grabbing several MB of
  data from a database is going to make your site speed crawl while it
  happens, not to mention you'd need to carefully cflock the application
  scope writes to ensure your content was coherent - so it'd all be
  single-threaded as well.
 
  Overall I agree with the people who are suggesting static publishing,
  since a static HTML page is probably as fast as a cf page coming out of
  the application scope. As a hybrid solution, or if securing pages is
  needed, consider publishing the static pages outside the web root and
  using a CF page and getPageContext().include() - which doesn't have CF
  parse the include if it's a static type (iirc).
 
  Kam
 
 
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Re: Dynamic Links and Spacing

2005-02-26 Thread Tony Weeg
doesnt mine do the same thing?

i didnt mean... if you know or not know, i meant if you can 
loop through something to generate it... you can use what i wrote...
not that you cant do the same with yours, but dont they generate the
some output?

tony


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:09:50 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if you know how many there are... you can say something like...
 
 cfloop from = 1 to = #yourQuery.recordCount# index = i
 
   #yourQuery.menuItem#
   cfif NOT i eq yourQuery.recordCount
nbsp | nbsp;
   /cfif
 
 /cfloop
 
 that should work... just replace the yourQuery stuff with your
 real query information.
 
 later.
 tony
 
 
 On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:02:23 -0400, Michael Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a site that generates some dynamic links. Ya know simply pulling 
  from a database.
  Anyway  I would like to separate each link with a |. The problem, however 
  is that the links list horizontally and I get a trailing |. For example
 
  About Us  |  Contact Us  |  Advertising  | Home  |
 
  Is there a way using MOD or something to drop the last one?
 
  

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Re: SUCCESS!!! I have CF7 going!!! Oh! the relief!

2005-02-26 Thread Will Tomlinson
Congrats! 

I had an interesting install myself, but with 6.1 and xp pro. Ended up 
uninstalling the whole thing (that was fun!) and reinstalling mx by itself. 
Then it broke again after a few weeks (won't go into all the gory details(ok, I 
will. I couldn't manahe my DSN's anymore.:)), until I installed 7. A...all 
was fixed after that. Been runnin like a small block chevy ever since. 

Have fun with 7 Mike. It's a blast!

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Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.

2005-02-26 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks Steven,  I was unsure how to do that.  I thought about adding
the resolution to the bottom of this one, but I figured lots of people
will be totally annoyed with this one and not read it,  but a new
thread meant this one didnt have the resolution to it.

Good idea.   Thanks.

Cheers
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 Updating this thread with a link to the new thread having the resolution.
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Re: SUCCESS!!! I have CF7 going!!! Oh! the relief!

2005-02-26 Thread Douglas Knudsen
thank god, allah, buddha, isis, etc...geesh.   


On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:49:00 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I'm sure you are all aware, I've had a rather eventful installation
 experience, installing CFMX7 on my WinXpPro dev machine, so I can get
 to know CF7.  It's got a bit heated, and I've clearly offended a few
 people by being so insistent and persistent, but you'll all be as
 relieved as I am to learn that my CF7 is now going!
 
 I decided with some help (detailed below) that the problem wasn't the
 CFMX7 installer but windows,  and that CFMX7 either didnt detect the
 problem, or did but didn't tell me any way what the problem was.   I
 cleaned out a lot of applicatoins that are not used any more (mostly
 shareware) and got rid of a lot of servicse I dont use,  cleared off
 all traces of CFMX from my system, then tried another install.  I
 installed using the built-in web server, and BINGO! - a working
 installation.
 
 Thanks be to:
 
 * Neil Robertson-Ravo from UK who hung around last night for 5 and a
 half hours working through the problem with me by MSN Instant
 messenger,   and helped me decide it wasnt CF but windows causing the
 problem AND
 
 * Michael Tangorre who was quick to offer help, and in fact spent
 several hours today using the remote desktop while his fiance called
 him from upstairs (now THERE's dedication to helping a fellow
 traveller!!)   and who advised me to get rid of all the old rubbish on
 my system,   AND
 
 * Dave Watts,  who gave me the suggestion that did the trick
 
 And also, thanks to Jochem van Dieten and Steven Erat of Macromedia
 Support, both of whom offered to spend their own time by breeze or
 remote desktop to help me work out what was stopping this installer
 from doing what it should do.
 
 Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!   You people are Good People.
 
 A couple of things that could be improved in the ColdFusion installer:
 
 *  When the installer fails, there is never an indication as to why it
 fails.  I think there ought to be.
 
 *  In the docs, there is a page headed Verifying the installation
 with a number of checks to make sure it's all set up correctly.  But
 there is no link to documentation about what to do if it's not.   It
 wouldnt take a lot of effort for someone to just put a link to the
 support notes describing how to fix what's broken.
 
 *  If there is an app running on the system that will break the
 installer, how hard should it be to search for it in the preparatory
 stage of the installer, then halt the instaler if it's present, with a
 warning, asking the user to close it down before proceeding.
 
 * Despite all the assurances, there does appear to be issues with the
 installer and IIS5.1.  Yes, a great many people have installed it
 successfully with IIS, but also quite a few, such as myself and others
 who have written to me who DO have problems with IIS.
 
 In my case, these things could have saved me a LOT of time installing
 my CF7, and would certainly have saved all of you on CF-Talk a lot of
 anguish with all my posts on the topic.
 
 Anyway, its done now, and i'm now running on the built-in web server.
 
 --
 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
 AFP Webworks
 http://afpwebworks.com
 ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
 
 

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Re: Upgrading and datasources

2005-02-26 Thread Paul Hastings
Dave Watts wrote:
 I wasn't aware of all that. In the case of Windows authentication using a
 native SSO library, do you have to run CFMX as the specific Windows user
 against which you want to perform authentication?

apparently not. just add the domain property to the jdbc url along 
w/domain user  password and bob's your uncle.

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