Re: litlle cfeclipse question

2005-03-15 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 11 Mar 2005 19:23 pm, CFDEV wrote:
 Ok I see, cause there is that possibility in homesite but as you said,
 homesite doesn't have code folding.

And I'd rather have folding than wrapping.

FWIW, jEdit would wrap long lines onto a new unnumbered one. Sort of virtual 
wrapping.

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Re: OT - UI problems

2005-03-15 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 14:50 pm, Mickael wrote:
 on this have faced the same issue.  Can any one suggest a good resource for
 making easy to understand user interfaces, books, sites anything.

I'd be interested in hearing of any too.

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Re: Unable to display chinese chars on the

2005-03-15 Thread Paul Hastings
Dawn Huang wrote:
 I am trying to show chinese chars as the column header in a cfgrid.
 But it is showing up garbage. My codes are as below.

because you typed in garbage. what did you use to edit the page? does it 
support unicode? to test, just substitute some of your query unicode data:

cfgridcolumn name=factor_ch
 headerbold 
 select=Yes header=#getPA.factor_ch[1]# width=230

does that work? it should, works for me.

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RE: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Think it is time to get an Advanced Transact SQL book ;-)




-Original Message-
From: Steve Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 March 2005 21:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL Join Challenge

That's it!

I didn't even realize that you could use an AND in a join clause like that
(embarrased that I didn't even think to try it).

Sorry to everyone if my explanation of the desired result was confusing.
Thanks to all for the help!

Steve

 Select *
 From lessons
   Left join lessons on 
   (lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
AND students.studentID = #studentID#)
 
 Putting the AND in the join clause (and not in the WHERE clause) will 
 give different results.
 
   Mark



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Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-15 Thread Will Tomlinson
They've spent millions doing research on it - it can't be all
bad...

I know I wouldn't like to run a 2.39 billion dollar deficit with *my* site. So 
they sold millions of Harry Potter books to help out in 2004, overall Amazon 
still wouldn't be considered a success. Maybe even THEY have areas of 
improvement? 

Amazon states straight out in their annual report that as of the end of FY 
2004, they had an accumulated deficit of $2.39 billion and a stockholders 
deficit of $227 million. In other words, Amazon shares have a negative book 
value of about 56 cents a share; by contrast, eBay shares have a positive book 
value of around $5/share. Amazon's sales in 2004 were a record $6.9 billion, 
with earnings of $1.39/share, up over 1500% from $0.08 in 2003 and a loss in 
all previous years.

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Re: cfchart and cfchartdata question. Kindly help!

2005-03-15 Thread cf coder
I'm afraid that does not return the results I want to see returned. I am 
building a graph with the dates displayed on the x-axis and the count of jobs 
logged in a day dispalyed on the y-axis. If there are 3 jobs logged in a day, 
each job has a different jobPriority, I want to build a chart looking at which 
you can tell that on certain day there were for ex 3 jobs logged with the 3 
priorities stacked on top of each other. I hope its making sense. Thanks for 
your help so far

Regards
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RE: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
What other hosting company has suffered the same problem?

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

Not true.
 

-Original Message-
From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

It must be a problem with Crystaltech.

No other hosting company has suffered the same problem. You do the math...



I've been following the Crystaltech session issue with moderate
interest.  I say moderate because its not really my problem yet, as I
and my clients are running either CF 6.1 or CF 5.

But talking to another client today, looks like I'll be setting up a
server for him sooner rather than later, so the issue is coming into
sharper focus for me.  Especially since his dedicated servers are
housed by the above-mentioned host.

Crystaltech says the problem -- a disastrous one from the sound of it
-- is all about Macromedia screwing up CF 7 somehow.

Others are saying its not MM, or more accurately others are saying
that CF 7 has been working for them just dandy for ages.

As far as I can tell MM has kept a fairly low profile on this. 
Possibly to avoid giving a partner a black eye if it speaks up?

I've never seen the problem but if something new has been injected
into CF, what is the solution to keeping it stable?  As in don't ever
do X.  Or has the bugfinding and fixing not gotten far enough yet to
know?


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RE: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
It's becoming more common for brick and mortar check outs to ask for phone
number or other personal information, even when paying by cash.

I tell them no, and if they keep asking I typically offer them 867-5309

I personally find it a real turn off to doing business with that retailer.
If I wanted to give personal information, I could just purchase online AND
get it cheaper!

Just some random thoughts...

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 5:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

The custoemr is holding money out to you.  all you have to do is reach
out and take it.

If you walk into a store, pick out a product and walk to the cash
register, can you ever remember a time when the clerk handed you the
money back and asked you for your username and password?

To me, the purpose of a web site is not to build a marketing list. 
Its to make sales.  Anything you do to get in the way of transferring
product out of your warehouse and money into your pocket is a
detriment to that prime focus, and represents a loss of understanding
of what the web site is all about.

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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
How do the physical paths map to the website?

For example, does C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite in your dev environment map to
www.something.ext\MySite in dev?

How does it look in production? 

I wouldn't be surprised if a hosting organization would not want to manage
mappings for each site/client.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

Okay, so I've got a site on my localhost. I'm setting it up to use CFCs and 
I've got my CFC all created, and it's working locally perfectly.

The path is C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite

I have the CFC in the root of my site, and it's called, let's say, 
myCFC.cfc.

So in my page, I have the code that instantiates the object:

cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, MySite.myCFC)

.and it works perfectly, like I said. I also have an admin section and 
it's path is C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite\backend\ and my instantiation code 
works fine in there:

cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, MySite.myCFC)

However, now that I move it over to the live site to test it, it's not 
working. I fixed it, by changing my instantiation code (in all my root cfm

files) to:
cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, myCFC)

.which now works...*except* for in the admin directory one directory 
lower. I haven't been able to get it to work any other way than just placing

the CFC in that directory too. I know, I know...this is *stupid* and I'm not

going to leave it for sure, but I'm trying to figure out how I make it work 
on the remote, live site just like it's working here, without having to 
change code whenever I move it.

What do I need to do to get it to work right? 





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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
I hadn't tried the dynamic paths before... I wonder if this limitation is
documented anywhere?

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

The issue with dynamic paths is that you can't do any type-checking at
all in the cffunction, cfargument, and cfproperty tags. For me,
this is too important since it saves a lot of time debugging.  It also
makes the structure of component files clearer since I am always
having to use it. It may seem like more work, but it pays you back
later.


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a
single
 location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to search
 and replace you know exactly where to look.
 
 Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
  Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
  hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
  path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
  to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
  names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.
 
 Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for a
 mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to offer?
 This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so I'm
 wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because
 honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to
 work.
 
 



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RE: WDDX Status?

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
Why are questions about wddx off topic? 

It seem like a lot of stuff is going to cf-community that seems appropriate
here.

- Calvin

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From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WDDX Status?

Sorry folks - I meant that for CF_Community.  It's really off-topic for this
list.

That being said I'd still like to hear what you have to say - but please
post to the CF-community thread if possible.

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Re: CF to excel

2005-03-15 Thread Adam Haskell
without the cfheader tags is the page loaind in the broiwser properly?

Adam H



On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:47:16 -0600, Eric Creese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay I tried your suggestion and got the same error
 
 The page cannot be displayed
  There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot
 be displayed.
 
 --
 
  HTTP 500 - Internal server error
  Internet Explorer
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:32 PM
 Subject: RE: CF to excel
 
  I use this with success:
 
  cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=attachment;
  filename=#fileName#
  cfcontent type=Application/Unknown reset=yes
 
  [html content goes here...]
 
 
  This code snippet should prompt you to download/save each spreadsheet
  w/o opening Excel directly.
 
  M!ke
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF to excel
 
  How come the following will not work. I get a 500 error
 
  html
  head
  titleCLASS of cfoutput#getYRInfo.class_year#/cfoutput Spread
  Sheet/title /head body
 
  cfcontent type=application/ms-excel
  CFHEADER NAME=content-disposition VALUE=filename=classroster.xls
 
  cfoutputtable cols=11/cfoutput
  cfoutput query=getclass
  tr
   td strong#fname#/strong/td
   td strong#lname#/strong/td
  td strong#mname#/strong/td
  td strong#addr1#/strong/td
  td strong#addr2#/strong/td  td
  strong#city#/strong/td
  td strong#state#/strong/td
  td strong#country#/strong/td
  td strong#zip#/strong/td  td
  strong#email#/strong/td
  tdstrong#phone#/strong/td /tr /cfoutput
  cfoutput/table/cfoutput /body /html
 
 
 
 

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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-15 Thread Keith Gaughan
Steve Bryant wrote:
 I expected that to work as well (in fact, I thought that I had used this
 approach successfully in the past). I tried it again this time, however,
 and it didn't work.
 
 Some rows from lessons were missing.

I have the same problem where I'm using a similar query to get back a
list of keywords assigned to a user. No luck in finding out why this
isn't working though.

 Would it matter that while lessons has a primary key of LessonID,
 students has a joint primary key of LessonID and UserID?

No, it doesn't. For me, the list of keywords assigned to the user isn't
indexed at all or part of another key. I don't do lookups on it except
in joins where I'm doing a lookup on a key that's part of the same
table.

 Or  perhaps this is an oddity of SQL Server 2000?

Could be. Believe me, I'd like to know why this doesn't work as you'd
think it should myself. I'm pretty sure I've used the same technique
on other RDBMSs before and it's given me no problems.

K.

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RE: CF to excel

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
How about removing the reset=yes?

-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF to excel

without the cfheader tags is the page loaind in the broiwser properly?

Adam H



On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:47:16 -0600, Eric Creese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay I tried your suggestion and got the same error
 
 The page cannot be displayed
  There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it
cannot
 be displayed.
 
 --
 
  HTTP 500 - Internal server error
  Internet Explorer
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:32 PM
 Subject: RE: CF to excel
 
  I use this with success:
 
  cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=attachment;
  filename=#fileName#
  cfcontent type=Application/Unknown reset=yes
 
  [html content goes here...]
 
 
  This code snippet should prompt you to download/save each spreadsheet
  w/o opening Excel directly.
 
  M!ke
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF to excel
 
  How come the following will not work. I get a 500 error
 
  html
  head
  titleCLASS of cfoutput#getYRInfo.class_year#/cfoutput Spread
  Sheet/title /head body
 
  cfcontent type=application/ms-excel
  CFHEADER NAME=content-disposition VALUE=filename=classroster.xls
 
  cfoutputtable cols=11/cfoutput
  cfoutput query=getclass
  tr
   td strong#fname#/strong/td
   td strong#lname#/strong/td
  td strong#mname#/strong/td
  td strong#addr1#/strong/td
  td strong#addr2#/strong/td  td
  strong#city#/strong/td
  td strong#state#/strong/td
  td strong#country#/strong/td
  td strong#zip#/strong/td  td
  strong#email#/strong/td
  tdstrong#phone#/strong/td /tr /cfoutput
  cfoutput/table/cfoutput /body /html
 
 
 
 



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RE: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-15 Thread Paul
 overall Amazon still wouldn't be considered a success.

Dismissing the business decisions which account for Amazon's deficit, which
are way off topic and not necessarily a sign of an unhealthy or unsuccessful
business, Amazon is quite successful when it comes to the principles of
ecommerce.  They know how to make the process work for their customers.

My point is simply that we can learn from the success and mistakes of bigger
fish.  I don't think their implementation is perfect, nor even ideal
depending on the site and what it's selling, but I would rather take the
results of their extensive usability tests over my personal opinion or the
perspectives of a few other people with online experiences very similar to
mine.

In the end if you want to be more sure you're doing the right thing, run
your own usability tests.  Bribe some teenyboppers with a t-shirt and have
them use two versions of your checkout process without asking specifically
about the registration requirement.



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HELP: arbitrary HTML 2 XML parser that works with XmlParse()

2005-03-15 Thread Matthew Lesko
All,

I'm trying to write some functionality that is capable of retrieving a document 
from a URL, ala CFHTTP for instance, and then parsing that document - warts and 
all - into something that XmlParse() can work with in order to use XPath to 
pull out certain pieces. 

I've tried jTidy, but it seems to choke if the HTML document it receives is not 
well-formed, and I have no control over the documents being pulled. So, it 
seems as if nekoHTML might fit the bill, but I'm at a loss as to how to either 
get output from it that can be read by XmlParse() or how to use XPath on the 
object(s) it creates directly. 
Any help with some sort of HTML to XML parser (especially codes samples) would 
be much appreciated. 

Thanks,

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RE: HELP: arbitrary HTML 2 XML parser that works with XmlParse()

2005-03-15 Thread Micha Schopman
Matthew, 

This is not possible. Not only are you bound to well formed xml (xml,
xhtml) for xmlParse, but it is also needed for xPath to function at all.

A valid document tree needs to be build before those functions can
actually find themselves a way through the markup.

So either, provide valid and well formed xml, or start looking at a
parser (which I think you won't find because that is what browsers do)
for tagsoup extraction.

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Sent: dinsdag 15 maart 2005 12:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: HELP: arbitrary HTML 2 XML parser that works with XmlParse()

All,

I'm trying to write some functionality that is capable of retrieving a
document from a URL, ala CFHTTP for instance, and then parsing that
document - warts and all - into something that XmlParse() can work with
in order to use XPath to pull out certain pieces. 

I've tried jTidy, but it seems to choke if the HTML document it receives
is not well-formed, and I have no control over the documents being
pulled. So, it seems as if nekoHTML might fit the bill, but I'm at a
loss as to how to either get output from it that can be read by
XmlParse() or how to use XPath on the object(s) it creates directly. 
Any help with some sort of HTML to XML parser (especially codes samples)
would be much appreciated. 

Thanks,

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Re: HELP: arbitrary HTML 2 XML parser that works with XmlParse()

2005-03-15 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 11:42 am, Matthew Lesko wrote:
 to XML parser (especially codes samples) would be much appreciated.

HTML is not an XML format.
XHTML is a lot stricter, and so is an XML format, and no matter what some web 
sites might claim to be, very few sites that have been around longer than a 
year or so are compliant.

IIRC, YMMV etc. etc.

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Re: HELP: arbitrary HTML 2 XML parser that works with XmlParse()

2005-03-15 Thread Massimo Foti
I haven't used any Java HTML parser, but you could check:

http://jerichohtml.sourceforge.net/

http://htmlparser.sourceforge.net/


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built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

2005-03-15 Thread Johnny Le
Hi,
What is the built-in server in standalone ColdFusion MX?  Is it JRun 4?  I 
asked someone and they said no but the I used the variable 
server.coldfusion.appserver, it displays JRun 4.  So can you tell me whether 
the built-in server is the same as the appServer?

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RE: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

2005-03-15 Thread Bud
Ben Forta wrote:

FWIW, Macromedia.com is a very high traffic site, and has been running CFMX7
for quite a while.

--- Ben

Yes, and suffering the Session Invalid problem also.


-Original Message-
From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

I don't know if this is simply a case of failure under load, but a
combination of issues. Besides Michael, how many sites do you have running
on the House of Fusion server? I'm guessing that it isn't anything like the
number of sites a shared hosting environment has...
like somewhere between 60 and 100. A server used for shared hosting isn't
(and shouldn't be) set up the same as a dedicated server.  There are many
more issues that have to be considered and--I'm sure--lots of custom
configurations.

Basically, the issues going on at CrystalTech are probably not going to be
as big a deal if you operate your own machines... there is always a
trade-off.


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:48:29 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There were specific cases (such as House of Fusion) where Macromedia
  allowed production servers to use the beta. I'd say that there was
  some heavy load testing.

   Macromedia strongly discouraged beta testers installing CFMX7 on
   production servers.  So many of the things we are seeing could not
   have been tested if we played by the rules.  Most testing was
   probably done under very light loads.








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RE: CF to excel

2005-03-15 Thread Dawson, Michael
Good question.  If the page is not well-formed enough for Excel to work,
it may have errors when running the page only in the browser.

Also, make sure you are not just refreshing the actual page with the
excel data in it.  You will need to click on a link, or submit a form,
that eventually calls the page.  Refreshes can generate errors when
sending non-HTML data through the response.

M!ke

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF to excel

without the cfheader tags is the page loaind in the broiwser properly?

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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread Douglas Knudsen
I never noticed any issues with type checking when using dynamic paths
to my cfcs.
using the below gives me no issues
I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
something like
cfset toolsobj =
CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.AppRoot,/,.)#.pathtocfcs.inmy.app)
/

I usually don't store my cfcs in a mapped CFC directory as this causes
me pain keeping track of them in CVS.

Doug


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:26:07 -0500, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hadn't tried the dynamic paths before... I wonder if this limitation is
 documented anywhere?
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
 The issue with dynamic paths is that you can't do any type-checking at
 all in the cffunction, cfargument, and cfproperty tags. For me,
 this is too important since it saves a lot of time debugging.  It also
 makes the structure of component files clearer since I am always
 having to use it. It may seem like more work, but it pays you back
 later.
 
 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a
 single
  location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to search
  and replace you know exactly where to look.
 
  Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
   Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
   hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
   path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
   to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
   names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.
 
  Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for a
  mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to offer?
  This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so I'm
  wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because
  honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to
  work.
 
 
 
 

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RE: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

2005-03-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
They are wrong - it IS JRun 4.   At least a tailored version of it.





-Original Message-
From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 March 2005 12:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

Hi,
What is the built-in server in standalone ColdFusion MX?  Is it JRun 4?  I
asked someone and they said no but the I used the variable
server.coldfusion.appserver, it displays JRun 4.  So can you tell me whether
the built-in server is the same as the appServer?

Johnny



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Re: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

2005-03-15 Thread tbuntel
We had several conversations with CrystalTech last week and we now have an 
engineer in there looking into the issue.  I will provide an update as soon as 
I know more.
Thanks, 
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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
Can anyone confirm if there are issues with Douglas' solution?

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

I never noticed any issues with type checking when using dynamic paths
to my cfcs.
using the below gives me no issues
I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
something like
cfset toolsobj =
CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.AppRoot,/,.)#.pathtocfcs.
inmy.app)
/

I usually don't store my cfcs in a mapped CFC directory as this causes
me pain keeping track of them in CVS.

Doug


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:26:07 -0500, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hadn't tried the dynamic paths before... I wonder if this limitation is
 documented anywhere?
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
 The issue with dynamic paths is that you can't do any type-checking at
 all in the cffunction, cfargument, and cfproperty tags. For me,
 this is too important since it saves a lot of time debugging.  It also
 makes the structure of component files clearer since I am always
 having to use it. It may seem like more work, but it pays you back
 later.
 
 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a
 single
  location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to
search
  and replace you know exactly where to look.
 
  Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
   Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
   hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
   path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
   to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
   names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.
 
  Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for
a
  mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to
offer?
  This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so
I'm
  wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because
  honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to
  work.
 
 
 
 



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Web Service error

2005-03-15 Thread Alisa Thomson
I was receiving a timeout error trying to consume one of my web services, so I 
decided to try a public one...BabelFish. I get the same error. I tried several 
other web services listed at xmethods.net and I get the same thing. I am 
running CFMX 6.1 Updater on Solaris. Here is the error:

Error,jrpp-279,03/11/05,13:22:29,,Could not generate stub objects for 
web service invocation.Name: 
http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl. WSDL: 
http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl. 
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out It is recommended that you use 
a web browser to retrieve and examine the requested WSDL document for 
correctness. If the requested WSDL document can't be retrieved or it is 
dynamically generated, it is likely that the target web service has programming 
errors.

And here is my invoke call:
cfinvoke
webservice = http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl;
method = BabelFish
returnVariable = foo
cfinvokeargument name=translationmode value=en_es/
cfinvokeargument name=sourcedata value=Hello World, Friend/
/cfinvoke

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RE: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
Correct!

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

They are wrong - it IS JRun 4.   At least a tailored version of it.





-Original Message-
From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 March 2005 12:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

Hi,
What is the built-in server in standalone ColdFusion MX?  Is it JRun 4?  I
asked someone and they said no but the I used the variable
server.coldfusion.appserver, it displays JRun 4.  So can you tell me whether
the built-in server is the same as the appServer?

Johnny





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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread kola.oyedeji
Doug

If you have a cfc which expects a cfc of a particular type e.g.

cfargument name=somecfc type=mypackage.somesubpackage.somecfc /

How do you handle it with dynamic paths?

KOla 

 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 March 2005 13:46
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
 I never noticed any issues with type checking when using dynamic paths
 to my cfcs.
 using the below gives me no issues
 I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
 something like
 cfset toolsobj =
 CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.AppRoot,/,.)#.pathtocfc
 s.inmy.app)
 /
 
 I usually don't store my cfcs in a mapped CFC directory as this causes
 me pain keeping track of them in CVS.
 
 Doug
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:26:07 -0500, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I hadn't tried the dynamic paths before... I wonder if this limitation
 is
  documented anywhere?
 
  - Calvin
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:37 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
  The issue with dynamic paths is that you can't do any type-checking at
  all in the cffunction, cfargument, and cfproperty tags. For me,
  this is too important since it saves a lot of time debugging.  It also
  makes the structure of component files clearer since I am always
  having to use it. It may seem like more work, but it pays you back
  later.
 
  On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a
  single
   location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to
 search
   and replace you know exactly where to look.
  
   Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
  
Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things
 easier
to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change
 the
names at some point the search and replace should be pretty
 simple.
  
   Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP
 for a
   mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to
 offer?
   This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so
 I'm
   wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain,
 because
   honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it
 to
   work.
  
  
 
 
 
 

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CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

2005-03-15 Thread Ken Ferguson
I installed CF 7 on a machine running Apache 2.0.52 and ran the Web
Server Configuration Tool. I repeated this several times and kept ending
up getting nothing when browsing to cfm pages except JRun Servlet Error
404 NULL

 

What's even worse, I just reinstalled from scratch and ran the wsconfig
again. Now I no longer get JRun Servlet Error 404 NULL -- now I get
JRun Servlet Error 500 Unknown tag: cfdump when I surf to test.cfm.
Below is the code for test.cfm.

 

cfdump var=#server#

 

Now, if I change that to: 

 

cfoutput#server.os.name#/cfoutput

 

It works and Windows XP is printed on the screen. Still, I have the
CFIDE directory in the proper place, but when I go to
cfide/administrator/index.cfm I only get the 500 NULL error. Does anyone
have any idea what's going on???

 

 

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RE: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

2005-03-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
That is good service.  Good job MM.



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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

We had several conversations with CrystalTech last week and we now have an
engineer in there looking into the issue.  I will provide an update as soon
as I know more.
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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread Douglas Knudsen
Kola nailed the issue.  Yeah, that woud be a show stopper.  Currently,
I don't do this so much, so I never encountered it.

good cactch

Doug


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:55:35 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doug
 
 If you have a cfc which expects a cfc of a particular type e.g.
 
 cfargument name=somecfc type=mypackage.somesubpackage.somecfc /
 
 How do you handle it with dynamic paths?
 
 KOla
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 15 March 2005 13:46
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
  I never noticed any issues with type checking when using dynamic paths
  to my cfcs.
  using the below gives me no issues
  I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
  something like
  cfset toolsobj =
  CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.AppRoot,/,.)#.pathtocfc
  s.inmy.app)
  /
 
  I usually don't store my cfcs in a mapped CFC directory as this causes
  me pain keeping track of them in CVS.
 
  Doug
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:26:07 -0500, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I hadn't tried the dynamic paths before... I wonder if this limitation
  is
   documented anywhere?
  
   - Calvin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:37 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
  
   The issue with dynamic paths is that you can't do any type-checking at
   all in the cffunction, cfargument, and cfproperty tags. For me,
   this is too important since it saves a lot of time debugging.  It also
   makes the structure of component files clearer since I am always
   having to use it. It may seem like more work, but it pays you back
   later.
  
   On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a
   single
location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to
  search
and replace you know exactly where to look.
   
Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
   
 Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
 hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
 path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things
  easier
 to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change
  the
 names at some point the search and replace should be pretty
  simple.
   
Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP
  for a
mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to
  offer?
This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so
  I'm
wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain,
  because
honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it
  to
work.
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread Jeff Small
 How do the physical paths map to the website?

 For example, does C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite in your dev environment map to
 www.something.ext\MySite in dev?

Yes, exactly that.

 How does it look in production?

Do you mean, how do the paths differ on the production machine? I believe 
that the difference is on my development machine, it's:

C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite

And on the production server, it's

E:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Shared Something Something\MySite

So there's one directory above me.

 I wouldn't be surprised if a hosting organization would not want to manage
 mappings for each site/client.

Yeah, I've talked to him, he's into it, and so am I, but I've never really 
done mappings before, I'm on my dev machine now but I just don't know what 
to do next. My goal is to have a way to instantiate an object on my end with 
the SAME exact code on his end, so when I move the page over, I don't have 
to change anything, and can have one common path.

While I'm on this, I have the CFC in the root of the site...should I move it 
someplace else? Should I make a CFC folder and stick it in there? I mean, 
since I'm changing the sitewide path and everything, I might as well make 
sure it's in the right or safest or easiest place.

And what's with the com.MySite.MyCFC instantiation? What does putting the 
com on the front do exactly? I'm reading the docs, I'm just kinda not 
understanding it because I've never really done it before, so I'm wading 
thru it and asking questions as I see things I'm unfamiliar with and don't 
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Re: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

2005-03-15 Thread Douglas Knudsen
not true!  in fact I saw this 'session is invaild' error on
macromedia.com just the other day.

Doug


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:00:07 -0400, Irvin Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It must be a problem with Crystaltech.
 
 No other hosting company has suffered the same problem. You do the math...
 
 
 I've been following the Crystaltech session issue with moderate
 interest.  I say moderate because its not really my problem yet, as I
 and my clients are running either CF 6.1 or CF 5.
 
 But talking to another client today, looks like I'll be setting up a
 server for him sooner rather than later, so the issue is coming into
 sharper focus for me.  Especially since his dedicated servers are
 housed by the above-mentioned host.
 
 Crystaltech says the problem -- a disastrous one from the sound of it
 -- is all about Macromedia screwing up CF 7 somehow.
 
 Others are saying its not MM, or more accurately others are saying
 that CF 7 has been working for them just dandy for ages.
 
 As far as I can tell MM has kept a fairly low profile on this.
 Possibly to avoid giving a partner a black eye if it speaks up?
 
 I've never seen the problem but if something new has been injected
 into CF, what is the solution to keeping it stable?  As in don't ever
 do X.  Or has the bugfinding and fixing not gotten far enough yet to
 know?
 
 
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Re: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

2005-03-15 Thread Nick de Voil
 What is the built-in server in standalone ColdFusion MX?  Is it JRun 4?
I asked someone and they said no but the I used the variable
server.coldfusion.appserver, it displays JRun 4.  So can you tell me whether
the built-in server is the same as the appServer?

It's not the same, no - at least, it depends on the context.

When people refer to the built-in server, they generally mean the HTTP
server, aka web server, that is built in to JRun. CFMX exists in a JRun
environment, which includes JRun's built-in web server. You can configure
JRun to connect to either the built-in web server or to connect to an
external web server such as Apache or IIS. So if you're using CFMX, you are
always using the built-in *application server* or servlet container, JRun,
and you *may* be using the built-in *web server* or HTTP server, which
unfortunately has no name afaik except for the built-in server.

Just to make things more confusing, within JRun you can have several
different named configurations running, each of which is referred to as
yes, a server. CFMX is one such server (the cfusion server within JRun).

And then of course all this software runs on a host computer, which is
generally referred to as a

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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
Effectively you can't use variables in the type therefore they are less
useful in the component path?

-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

Kola nailed the issue.  Yeah, that woud be a show stopper.  Currently,
I don't do this so much, so I never encountered it.

good cactch

Doug


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:55:35 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doug
 
 If you have a cfc which expects a cfc of a particular type e.g.
 
 cfargument name=somecfc type=mypackage.somesubpackage.somecfc /
 
 How do you handle it with dynamic paths?
 
 KOla
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 15 March 2005 13:46
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
  I never noticed any issues with type checking when using dynamic paths
  to my cfcs.
  using the below gives me no issues
  I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
  something like
  cfset toolsobj =
 
CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.AppRoot,/,.)#.pathtocfc
  s.inmy.app)
  /
 
  I usually don't store my cfcs in a mapped CFC directory as this causes
  me pain keeping track of them in CVS.
 
  Doug
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:26:07 -0500, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I hadn't tried the dynamic paths before... I wonder if this limitation
  is
   documented anywhere?
  
   - Calvin
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:37 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
  
   The issue with dynamic paths is that you can't do any type-checking at
   all in the cffunction, cfargument, and cfproperty tags. For me,
   this is too important since it saves a lot of time debugging.  It also
   makes the structure of component files clearer since I am always
   having to use it. It may seem like more work, but it pays you back
   later.
  
   On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Bosky, Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in
a
   single
location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to
  search
and replace you know exactly where to look.
   
Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
   
 Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
 hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
 path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things
  easier
 to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change
  the
 names at some point the search and replace should be pretty
  simple.
   
Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP
  for a
mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to
  offer?
This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site,
so
  I'm
wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain,
  because
honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it
  to
work.
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 



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RE: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

2005-03-15 Thread Calvin Ward
Well, except I thought we were talking about the built in app server here?

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

 What is the built-in server in standalone ColdFusion MX?  Is it JRun 4?
I asked someone and they said no but the I used the variable
server.coldfusion.appserver, it displays JRun 4.  So can you tell me whether
the built-in server is the same as the appServer?

It's not the same, no - at least, it depends on the context.

When people refer to the built-in server, they generally mean the HTTP
server, aka web server, that is built in to JRun. CFMX exists in a JRun
environment, which includes JRun's built-in web server. You can configure
JRun to connect to either the built-in web server or to connect to an
external web server such as Apache or IIS. So if you're using CFMX, you are
always using the built-in *application server* or servlet container, JRun,
and you *may* be using the built-in *web server* or HTTP server, which
unfortunately has no name afaik except for the built-in server.

Just to make things more confusing, within JRun you can have several
different named configurations running, each of which is referred to as
yes, a server. CFMX is one such server (the cfusion server within JRun).

And then of course all this software runs on a host computer, which is
generally referred to as a

Nick






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RE: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

2005-03-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Either way you look at it - CFMX standalone runs off JRun 4.  It is not J2EE
but it is JRun 4.



-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 March 2005 14:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

Well, except I thought we were talking about the built in app server here?

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: built-in server in ColdFusion MX?

 What is the built-in server in standalone ColdFusion MX?  Is it JRun 4?
I asked someone and they said no but the I used the variable
server.coldfusion.appserver, it displays JRun 4.  So can you tell me whether
the built-in server is the same as the appServer?

It's not the same, no - at least, it depends on the context.

When people refer to the built-in server, they generally mean the HTTP
server, aka web server, that is built in to JRun. CFMX exists in a JRun
environment, which includes JRun's built-in web server. You can configure
JRun to connect to either the built-in web server or to connect to an
external web server such as Apache or IIS. So if you're using CFMX, you are
always using the built-in *application server* or servlet container, JRun,
and you *may* be using the built-in *web server* or HTTP server, which
unfortunately has no name afaik except for the built-in server.

Just to make things more confusing, within JRun you can have several
different named configurations running, each of which is referred to as
yes, a server. CFMX is one such server (the cfusion server within JRun).

And then of course all this software runs on a host computer, which is
generally referred to as a

Nick








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Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-15 Thread Adam Churvis
- Original Message - 
From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 The custoemr is holding money out to you.  all you have to do is reach
 out and take it.

 If you walk into a store, pick out a product and walk to the cash
 register, can you ever remember a time when the clerk handed you the
 money back and asked you for your username and password?

 To me, the purpose of a web site is not to build a marketing list.
 Its to make sales.  Anything you do to get in the way of transferring
 product out of your warehouse and money into your pocket is a
 detriment to that prime focus, and represents a loss of understanding
 of what the web site is all about.

As always, Matt Robertson hits the nail on the head.  I couldn't agree more.

Here's what we do:

1) Only the absolute minimum number of consumer-side regions of the site
require authentication (members-only areas, for instance).  Store checkout
is one of them.

2) When the user clicks Checkout, the system checks to see if he's logged
in, and if not he is prompted with If you are already in our system, enter
your email address and password.  If you haven't logged in to our system
before, enter your email address and the password you want to use for our
website.  We typically also add a quick note that this is so they can track
their orders, receive better customer support, etc.

3) If his email address is in the system and the password matches, he's in.
If the email address isn't in the system, it takes him to a form where he
verifies his password and enters his first and last name.  The other info
like address and such is optional.  These days we also include a link that
pops up the site's Privacy Statement in a separate window so as not to
disrupt the purchasing process.

4) Submitting this form registers the user so he can later log back into the
system, then it logs him in automatically and takes him to his original
destination: the checkout form.

5) If the user entered his additional address info on the previous form,
that information is automatically filled in on the checkout form, but it
remains editable.  If not, then the user can fill in the blank fields.

6) When the purchase is done and the Thank You page appears, you can check
the user's profile for empty fields.  If so, display a graphic showing
filled fields from his sales order and empty fields from his profile with
arrows drawn from the former to the latter, and ask him Would you like us
to remember your address info?  Doing so will make your future purchases
faster and more convenient.  A simple click on the Remember Me button
then calls a method to replicate the address info from the order he just
completed to his user profile.

This is a very transparent process to the user, and reassures him at each
step that the personal info is optional and that it is only used for normal
and reasonable purposes.  Nothing interferes with the process of getting the
consumer's money to the merchant with the minimum number of clicks, but the
process supports good customer service for future purposes.  And you get two
opportunities for the user to make things more convenient for himself -- 
once on the first time he purchases, and a second time each time he checks
out an order while having a partially-completed user profile.

The login/registration functionality is built into Plum (but the purchase
process isn't because Plum currently doesn't have its own shopping cart -- 
it will later on), so if you'd like to try such a login/registration system
for real, go to
http://www.productivityenhancement.com/plum/DownloadPlum.cfm.

How do you guys handle such processes?  I'd love to hear some alternate
techniques.

Respectfully,

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Re: Web Service error

2005-03-15 Thread Rob Munn
have you tried this code on another system? it ran fine for me on my laptop,
running cfmx 7 j2ee developer mode. the last time i had this error on a
system with code that was working on other systems, it ended up that the
whole axis web services install was corrupt. that was a dev system, so i
wiped the whole thing and re-installed.  maybe a re-install of the updater
would fix things.

- Original Message - 
From: Alisa Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:54 AM
Subject: Web Service error


 I was receiving a timeout error trying to consume one of my web services,
so I decided to try a public one...BabelFish. I get the same error. I tried
several other web services listed at xmethods.net and I get the same thing.
I am running CFMX 6.1 Updater on Solaris. Here is the error:

 Error,jrpp-279,03/11/05,13:22:29,,Could not generate stub objects
for web service invocation.Name:
http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl. WSDL:
http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl.
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out It is recommended that you
use a web browser to retrieve and examine the requested WSDL document for
correctness. If the requested WSDL document can't be retrieved or it is
dynamically generated, it is likely that the target web service has
programming errors.

 And here is my invoke call:
 cfinvoke
 webservice = http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl;
 method = BabelFish
 returnVariable = foo
 cfinvokeargument name=translationmode value=en_es/
 cfinvokeargument name=sourcedata value=Hello World, Friend/
 /cfinvoke

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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-15 Thread Steve Bryant
Any recommendations?

Think it is time to get an Advanced Transact SQL book ;-)

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RE: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Several - 

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Any recommendations?

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SIGSEGV 11 segmentation violation

2005-03-15 Thread cf-talk
Has anyone ever seen this error in their server.log?

SIGSEGV 11 segmentation violation
si_signo [11]: SEGV
si_errno [0]: 
si_code [1]: SEGV_MAPERR [addr: 0x0]

Information,TID=1,03/15/05,10:40:44,   The ColdFusion Application 
Server started


this is happening every 5 minutes. 

the server build etc is: (i have asked they move this high traffic site to 
their other CFMX server, but still waiting)

Server Product ColdFusion Server 
 Version 4, 5, 1, SP2 
 Edition Enterprise 
 Operating System UNIX 
 OS Version 5.8, SunOS 
 OS Build Number Generic_117350-02 



Thanks.
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format y-axis in cfchart

2005-03-15 Thread cf coder
The values displayed on the y-axis are are mix of float and int. The chart 
displays int values on the y-axis if I use only one cfchartseries tag. The code 
below calculates the value for the gridlines and scaleto attributes.

[code]

cfset scTo=evaluate(ArrayMax(ListToArray(valuelist(qJobsLogged.JOBSCOUNT)))+1)

[/code]
When I output this variable, the value returned is 88 and when I execute the 
below code I get the following on the y-axis:

6 ,18, 30, 42, 54, 66, 78

[code]

cfchart show3d=yes gridlines=#evaluate(scTo+1)# yaxistype=scale
labelformat=number scalefrom=0 scaleto=#scTo# format=jpg 
xAxisTitle=log date yAxisTitle=jobs logged chartheight=300 
chartwidth=450 sortxaxis=no showborder=yes 
showxgridlines=yes showygridlines=yes seriesplacement=stacked 
font=Arial fontsize=12 fontbold=yes

cfchartseries type=bar serieslabel=Critical query=qJobsLogged 
itemcolumn=DTLOGGED valuecolumn=JOBSCOUNT
  cfif qJobsLogged.jobPriority eq 1   
cfchartdata item=#qJobsLogged.DTLOGGED# 
value=#qJobsLogged.JOBCOUNT#
  /cfif 
/cfchartseries

/cfchart

[/code]

However, when I add 3 more chartseries tag to the above code, I get
27.7, 83, 138.4, 193.8, 249.1, 304.5

[code]

cfset scTo=evaluate(ArrayMax(ListToArray(valuelist(qJobsLogged.JOBCOUNT)))+1)

cfchart show3d=yes gridlines=#evaluate(scTo+1)# yaxistype=scale
labelformat=number scalefrom=0 scaleto=#scTo# format=jpg 
xAxisTitle=log date yAxisTitle=jobs logged chartheight=300 
chartwidth=450 sortxaxis=no showborder=yes 
showxgridlines=yes showygridlines=yes seriesplacement=stacked 
font=Arial fontsize=12 fontbold=yes

cfchartseries type=bar serieslabel=Critical query=qJobsLogged 
itemcolumn=DTLOGGED valuecolumn=JOBSCOUNT
  cfif qJobsLogged.jobPriority eq 1   
cfchartdata item=#qJobsLogged.DTLOGGED# 
value=#qJobsLogged.JOBCOUNT#
  /cfif 
/cfchartseries

cfchartseries type=bar serieslabel=Urgent query=qJobsLogged 
itemcolumn=DTLOGGED valuecolumn=JOBCOUNT
  cfif qJobsLogged.jobPriority eq 2   
cfchartdata item=#qJobsLogged.DTLOGGED# 
value=#qJobsLogged.JOBCOUNT#
  /cfif 
/cfchartseries

cfchartseries type=bar serieslabel=Normal query=qJobsLogged 
itemcolumn=DTLOGGED valuecolumn=JOBCOUNT
  cfif qJobsLogged.jobPriority eq 3   
  cfchartdata item=#qJobsLogged.DTLOGGED# 
value=#qJobsLogged.JOBCOUNT#
  /cfif 
/cfchartseries

cfchartseries type=bar serieslabel=Other query=qJobsLogged 
itemcolumn=DTLOGGED valuecolumn=JOBCOUNT
  cfif qJobsLogged.jobPriority gt 3   
  cfchartdata item=#qJobsLogged.DTLOGGED# 
value=#qJobsLogged.JOBCOUNT#
  /cfif 
/cfchartseries

/cfchart

[/code]

Can any mathematician help please

Regards
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CF AJAX implementations

2005-03-15 Thread James Edmunds
Has anyone seen any examples or details of ColdFusion AJAX
implementations? I was thinking of doing something with the several
hundred photos on my blog, and would of course love to see if someone
else has plowed any of this ground already.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread Larry Lyons
 I have another problem with a submit button. It works well as input 
 type=submit and moves on to the next ten records, but when I change 
 it to an image it seems to just refresh the page but not go to the 
 next records.
 
 This works: input type=submit class=formitems value=Next 10 
 name=submitNext
 
 This does not: input type=image class=formitems 
 src=/images/next10.gif value=Next 10 name=submitNext 
 onclick=javascript:this.form.submit();
 
 I added onclick=javascript:this.form.submit(); but to no avail.
 
 Am I missing something here?
 
 Robert O.

Have you tried:
a href=javascript:void(0) onclick=javascript:this.form.submit();
img src=/images/next10.gif/a

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Re: CF AJAX implementations

2005-03-15 Thread Mark Drew
I have only done some demos of this, but I am thinking of implementing
some easy JS libraries for this. I shall let you know how I get on

MD


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone seen any examples or details of ColdFusion AJAX
 implementations? I was thinking of doing something with the several
 hundred photos on my blog, and would of course love to see if someone
 else has plowed any of this ground already.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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RE: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread Eric Creese
shouldn'e input type=image

be 
input type=button

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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Image Submit button


 I have another problem with a submit button. It works well as input 
 type=submit and moves on to the next ten records, but when I change 
 it to an image it seems to just refresh the page but not go to the 
 next records.
 
 This works: input type=submit class=formitems value=Next 10 
 name=submitNext
 
 This does not: input type=image class=formitems 
 src=/images/next10.gif value=Next 10 name=submitNext 
 onclick=javascript:this.form.submit();
 
 I added onclick=javascript:this.form.submit(); but to no avail.
 
 Am I missing something here?
 
 Robert O.

Have you tried:
a href=javascript:void(0) onclick=javascript:this.form.submit();
img src=/images/next10.gif/a

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Re: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

2005-03-15 Thread Stephen Dupre
Can you send me your httpd.conf file from Apache?  It looks like something is 
misconfigured.

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RE: CF AJAX implementations

2005-03-15 Thread Dave Watts
 Has anyone seen any examples or details of ColdFusion AJAX 
 implementations? I was thinking of doing something with the 
 several hundred photos on my blog, and would of course love 
 to see if someone else has plowed any of this ground already.

Since AJAX is simply a new label on an old idea, there are plenty of
examples out there. Our own Rob Rohan's Neuromancer is one I can think of
offhand:

http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=101ABA29-B8B9-B9A5-8
75B12724E6716C8

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Re: CF AJAX implementations

2005-03-15 Thread Barney Boisvert
Let me give a big thumbs up for Neuromancer.  We've used it (and are
continuing to use it) on several projects, and it's wonderful.

cheers,
barneyb

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:32:20 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Has anyone seen any examples or details of ColdFusion AJAX
  implementations? I was thinking of doing something with the
  several hundred photos on my blog, and would of course love
  to see if someone else has plowed any of this ground already.
 
 Since AJAX is simply a new label on an old idea, there are plenty of
 examples out there. Our own Rob Rohan's Neuromancer is one I can think of
 offhand:
 
 http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=101ABA29-B8B9-B9A5-8
 75B12724E6716C8
 
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 http://www.figleaf.com/

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Re: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
how about this:
input type=submit id=imgSubmit class=formitems value=Next 10
name=submitNext

And in the stylesheet...

FORM .formitems #imgSubmit {
 background-image = path/to/image.jpg
}

Just a thought...

J

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:58 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: Image Submit button
 
  I have another problem with a submit button. It works well as input
  type=submit and moves on to the next ten records, but when I change
  it to an image it seems to just refresh the page but not go to the
  next records.
 
  This works: input type=submit class=formitems value=Next 10
  name=submitNext
 
  This does not: input type=image class=formitems
  src=/images/next10.gif value=Next 10 name=submitNext
  onclick=javascript:this.form.submit();
 
  I added onclick=javascript:this.form.submit(); but to no avail.
 
  Am I missing something here?
 
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RE: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

2005-03-15 Thread Ken Ferguson
Actually, I just got it working. I uninstalled both CF and Apache and
then reinstalled Apache into a non-default directory (C:\Apache). Then I
reinstalled CF and ran the wsconfig. Now it's working, even though the
initial configuration from the first time I pulled up the admin took
about 15 minutes. I think maybe the spaces in the file path must have
had something to do with it -- Apache was installed under the default
program files/apache group??? I got to the point where I could do all
sorts of CF code that would work just fine, but I couldn't get into the
administrator and I couldn't use some tags like cfdump or cfobject. I
could even use cfform... Very strange, but it seems to be working now.

I was checking my httpd.conf file though earlier when I was having
troubles and everything seemed to be in place. I even checked it
character for character against what should be added as per the CF web
server configuration documentation.

Thanks anyway,
Ferg


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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

Can you send me your httpd.conf file from Apache?  It looks like
something is misconfigured.

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Regards,

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OT: Call for Reviews: House of Fusion Review Section

2005-03-15 Thread Judith Dinowitz
The House of Fusion Review Section is going up tonight, and we'd like to put up 
a variety of content: reviews of books, games, products, etc. Your review could 
be in it! If you'd like to contribute anything to this section, please send the 
reviews to me offlist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Whatever you send will help us build 
the categories for the section.

(A review can be as little as 1 or 2 paragraphs as long as it covers why you 
liked or didn't like something.)

Thanks,

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Re: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread Adrian Moreno
 I have another problem with a submit button. It works well as input 
 type=submit and moves on to the next ten records, but when I change 
 it to an image it seems to just refresh the page but not go to the 
 next records.

If you output form.fieldnames, you'll see what the problem is.

input type=submit name=foo value=Submit Form submits the variable foo.

Therefore, cfif IsDefined(form.foo) returns true.

input type=image name=foo src=submit.gif submits differently based on 
the browser. MSIE submits foo.x and foo.y. Mozilla (Firefox) submits 
foo.x, foo.y AND foo.

Therefore, if you're only checking cfif IsDefined(form.foo) when using an 
image submit button, it will only return true in Mozilla browsers. You should 
check cfif IsDefined(form.foo.x) to return true in both MSIE and Mozilla.

HTH, 

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Re: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

2005-03-15 Thread Stephen Dupre
The spaces should not affect Apache at all.  That's the way Apache installs on 
Windows and I've used it that way.

Did you initially install *ColdFusion7* on a path with spaces?  That may be an 
issue with server discovery (the wsconfig finding the running JRun server).  We 
just recently fixed that.  I think it was partially a JDK issue.

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RE: CF to excel

2005-03-15 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
One possibility amongst others is that cfcontent is disabled in the
administrator. The first thing to do is to get the actual error message
from coldfusion as well as the error code (HTTP 500 = something went
wrong - a little more info might come in handy). Check the error log
file for that. Also, it looks like you have so called friendly HTTP
errors on in IE - don't do that. Go to Tools - Internet Options... -
Advanced - Browsing (in IE) and make sure the Show friendly HTTP error
messages checkbox is unchecked. Or maybe you are using a site wide
error handler? 

/t

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF to excel

Okay I tried your suggestion and got the same error

 The page cannot be displayed
  There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach 
and it cannot
be displayed.

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  HTTP 500 - Internal server error
  Internet Explorer

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From: Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: CF to excel


 I use this with success:

 cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=attachment;
 filename=#fileName#
 cfcontent type=Application/Unknown reset=yes

 [html content goes here...]


 This code snippet should prompt you to download/save each spreadsheet
 w/o opening Excel directly.

 M!ke

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF to excel

 How come the following will not work. I get a 500 error

 html
 head
 titleCLASS of cfoutput#getYRInfo.class_year#/cfoutput Spread
 Sheet/title /head body

 cfcontent type=application/ms-excel
 CFHEADER NAME=content-disposition 
VALUE=filename=classroster.xls

 cfoutputtable cols=11/cfoutput
 cfoutput query=getclass
 tr
  td strong#fname#/strong/td
  td strong#lname#/strong/td
 td strong#mname#/strong/td
 td strong#addr1#/strong/td
 td strong#addr2#/strong/td  td
 strong#city#/strong/td
 td strong#state#/strong/td
 td strong#country#/strong/td
 td strong#zip#/strong/td  td
 strong#email#/strong/td
 tdstrong#phone#/strong/td /tr /cfoutput
 cfoutput/table/cfoutput /body /html

 



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RE: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread kola.oyedeji
Which is why I mailed a few days asking what was the code on the action page
doing as I suspected as much :)

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Moreno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 March 2005 17:04
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: Image Submit button
 
  I have another problem with a submit button. It works well as input
  type=submit and moves on to the next ten records, but when I change
  it to an image it seems to just refresh the page but not go to the
  next records.
 
 If you output form.fieldnames, you'll see what the problem is.
 
 input type=submit name=foo value=Submit Form submits the variable
 foo.
 
 Therefore, cfif IsDefined(form.foo) returns true.
 
 input type=image name=foo src=submit.gif submits differently based
 on the browser. MSIE submits foo.x and foo.y. Mozilla (Firefox)
 submits foo.x, foo.y AND foo.
 
 Therefore, if you're only checking cfif IsDefined(form.foo) when using
 an image submit button, it will only return true in Mozilla browsers. You
 should check cfif IsDefined(form.foo.x) to return true in both MSIE
 and Mozilla.
 
 HTH,
 
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Re: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
or ...

button type=submit id=imgSubmit/button

#imgSubmit { background-image: path/to/image.jpg; }

Granted, that with a button, you could just embed the image and make
the style on the button transparent, i.e.

button type=submit class=btnImage
img src=path/to/image.jpg //button

button.btnImage { border: 0px; background-color: transparent; }

I think that ought to work anyway... I wasn't paying attention to the
earlier posts, so I don't know if the intent was to avoid button
elements (which aren't supported by older NS browsers).


 how about this:
 input type=submit id=imgSubmit class=formitems
 value=Next 10
 name=submitNext

 And in the stylesheet...

 FORM .formitems #imgSubmit {
  background-image = path/to/image.jpg
 }

 Just a thought...

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RE: LDAP

2005-03-15 Thread Cary Gordon
We use OpenLDAP because it meets our clients first requirement - it is free.
The downside, for LDAP beginners, is that it is not particularly user
friendly, meaning that, if you aren't an LDAP expert, and you don't know
precisely how your organization needs to be structured, you will do it
wrong.  Hopefully, by the third redo, you will have it right.

I used to use the Netscape (now Sun ONE) directory server, which was much
easier, but is now (post Netscape) frighteningly expensive at about
$1.25/user for large, no cash organizations. My client has about 100k users,
and budgets about $0.005 per, which allows for a hefty linux box and a small
stack of LDAP books. 

BTW, add me to the list of happy Softerra LDAPBrowser users.

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It *shouldn't* matter what brand you use, but since they may have their own
implementations, it's helpful to know.

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Re: CF AJAX implementations

2005-03-15 Thread Micha Schopman
Currently working on it in my spare time. Fully xhtml compliant, css layouted 
and almost entirely maintained with xmlHttpRequests.

http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/cms.jpg

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Re: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
I was assuming that class=formitems was supplying some sort of
formatting to the form elements... only (duh) if it's an image button
that's not going to matter. But I used that larger selector to insure
that, since it's a form item, it receives the same class assignment
that the rest of the form items do.

So, yeah, the simpler version may be fine... depends on the specifics
of the implementation.

J


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:22:14 -0500, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 or ...
 
 button type=submit id=imgSubmit/button
 
 #imgSubmit { background-image: path/to/image.jpg; }
 
 Granted, that with a button, you could just embed the image and make
 the style on the button transparent, i.e.
 
 button type=submit class=btnImage
 img src=path/to/image.jpg //button
 
 button.btnImage { border: 0px; background-color: transparent; }
 
 I think that ought to work anyway... I wasn't paying attention to the
 earlier posts, so I don't know if the intent was to avoid button
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RE: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

2005-03-15 Thread Ken Ferguson
I know and Apache was working fine (for months). It was really odd,
because CF was kind of working too. No, CF was installed in the
default C:\CFusionMX7 directory. I've installed CF 7 now on 8
different servers and this is the first time I've had any issues. I've
not ever seen anything like it. Cfoutput was working, cfforms were
working -- all kinds of stuff WAS working, but I couldn't get into the
admin or use cfdump, cfobject... When I got it working, literally all I
did different from the previous install was to reinstall apache to a
different directory.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

The spaces should not affect Apache at all.  That's the way Apache
installs on Windows and I've used it that way.

Did you initially install *ColdFusion7* on a path with spaces?  That may
be an issue with server discovery (the wsconfig finding the running JRun
server).  We just recently fixed that.  I think it was partially a JDK
issue.

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Re: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-15 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Yea, I didn't really have any idea what the implementation in question
was... I noticed you typo'd the css and use = instead of : ... didn't
say anything about it 'cause I figured it was just a typo and likely
the folks reading the thread are familiar enough with css to catch it
rather than trying to use it and wondering why it doesn't work. :P But
I wasn't really critiqueing your suggestion per se, just throwing out
an option for variety. :)


 I was assuming that class=formitems was supplying some
 sort of
 formatting to the form elements... only (duh) if it's an
 image button
 that's not going to matter. But I used that larger
 selector to insure
 that, since it's a form item, it receives the same class
 assignment
 that the rest of the form items do.

 So, yeah, the simpler version may be fine... depends on
 the specifics
 of the implementation.

 J


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CFCASE and variables ...

2005-03-15 Thread Charles Heizer
Hello,
Can someone please explain to me why cfcase can not use a variable as it's
value, I would expect this to be a simple and useful feature. And does
anyone know a way around this?

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RE: CFCASE and variables ...

2005-03-15 Thread Paul
#variable# should work.

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Subject: CFCASE and variables ...

Hello,
Can someone please explain to me why cfcase can not use a variable as it's
value, I would expect this to be a simple and useful feature. And does
anyone know a way around this?

Thanks,
- Charles





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Re: CFCASE and variables ...

2005-03-15 Thread Barney Boisvert
Because that's the way it always is.  The case construct is
optimized for checking a single variable against a set of constants. 
If you're checking a variable against other variables, you are
prevented from performing those compiler-level optimizations.  If you
want to compare variable values, you need to use a
CFIF..CFELSEIF..CFELSE construct.  It's 100% equivalent in terms of
logic flow, just a different way of expressing it.

In CF, based on some testing I did a while back, the performance of
the case construct versus the conditional one was close enough to
ignore the difference, so you're not going to be taking a performance
hit by choosing one over the other.

cheers,
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 Hello,
 Can someone please explain to me why cfcase can not use a variable as it's
 value, I would expect this to be a simple and useful feature. And does
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 Thanks,
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Re: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install

2005-03-15 Thread Adam Haskell
If cfobject wasn't working on calling a CF component...sounds like the
WEB-INF was not mapped correctly...cfdump is in that folder as well as
component.cfc which I can only imagine is used to get components
working...maybe not.

Adam H


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:17:14 -0600, Ken Ferguson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know and Apache was working fine (for months). It was really odd,
 because CF was kind of working too. No, CF was installed in the
 default C:\CFusionMX7 directory. I've installed CF 7 now on 8
 different servers and this is the first time I've had any issues. I've
 not ever seen anything like it. Cfoutput was working, cfforms were
 working -- all kinds of stuff WAS working, but I couldn't get into the
 admin or use cfdump, cfobject... When I got it working, literally all I
 did different from the previous install was to reinstall apache to a
 different directory.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Dupre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:10 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Apache 2.0.52 install
 
 The spaces should not affect Apache at all.  That's the way Apache
 installs on Windows and I've used it that way.
 
 Did you initially install *ColdFusion7* on a path with spaces?  That may
 be an issue with server discovery (the wsconfig finding the running JRun
 server).  We just recently fixed that.  I think it was partially a JDK
 issue.
 
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Re: CFCASE and variables ...

2005-03-15 Thread Charles Heizer
Hi Paul,
This is right out of the docs ...

cfcase
Value - Required - The value or values that the expression attribute of the
cfswitch tag must match. To specify multiple matching values, separate the
values with the delimiter character. The value or values must be simple
constants or constant expressions, not variables.


 





On 3/15/05 11:46 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 #variable# should work.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Heizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:40 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFCASE and variables ...
 
 Hello,
 Can someone please explain to me why cfcase can not use a variable as it's
 value, I would expect this to be a simple and useful feature. And does
 anyone know a way around this?
 
 Thanks,
 - Charles
 
 
 
 
 
 

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WS-Security Implementation

2005-03-15 Thread Kevin Aebig
Hey All,

I'm trying to find out if there is anyway to implement the webservice
standard for security WS within CF6 or CF7? I've hunted and found nothing on
the topic which leads me to believe that it could only be done through the
use of JAVA...

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Re: OT - UI problems

2005-03-15 Thread Charles Polisher
Thomas Chiverton wrote:
  on this have faced the same issue.  Can any one suggest a good resource for
  making easy to understand user interfaces, books, sites anything.
 
 I'd be interested in hearing of any too.

Here's what's on my bookshelf. Of these, I like
Mullet /Sano and Spolsky the best:


Title: The Humane Interface
Author: Jef Raskin
ISBN: 0-201-37937-6
Jef Raskin invented the Macintosh user interface.
This is an interesting read, with some applicability
to design inside a browser environment, but mostly
aimed at programmers IMHO.


Title: Designing Visual Interfaces
Authors: Kevin Mullet, Darrell Sano
ISBN: 0-13-303389-9
Describes fundamental techniques that can be used
to enhance the visual quality of graphical user 
interfaces. I like this book a lot, and wish more
web designers would read it. 


Title: Constructing the User Interface with Statecharts
Author: Ian Horrocks
ISBN: 0-201-34278-2
Highly technical exposition of the Statecharts method
for user interface design. Formal methods. Aimed at
software engineers.


Title: Usability Engineering
Author: Jacob Nielsen
ISBN: 1-12-518406-9
The purpose of Nielsen's Usability Engineering
is to help nontechnical people improve the systems so
that they are not only error-free, but easier and
more pleasant to use, and more efficient.


User Interface Design for Programmers
Author: Joel Spolsky
ISBN: 1-893115-94-1
Chapter 9: People Can't Read. Chapter 10: People
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RE: OT - UI problems

2005-03-15 Thread Kevin Aebig
Unlike most developers theses days, I don't believe that usability or UI
creativity can be picked up in a book. There needs to be a solid basis of
artistic merit coupled with a clean, modern, intuitive way of thinking.

Through the good and the bad, real-world corporate experience is what
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Hello All,

My developer and I are working on a CMS for various clients.  Our clients
keep coming up with new requirements as the project grow or change.  We are
not having any issues meeting these requirement for new functionality on the
website.  But in my opinion we are not achieving an elegant and easy to use
interface.  As I review the interfaces I am finding that they are very
configurable, very scalable yet I feel that they are written for programmers
or people of a technical background which kind of defeats the purpose of
creating a CMS in the first place.  I am sure that many people on this have
faced the same issue.  Can any one suggest a good resource for making easy
to understand user interfaces, books, sites anything.

BTW if anyone feels that they are an expert in this field I am also open to
paying for Consulting in this matter.

Thanks

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RE: OT - UI problems

2005-03-15 Thread Justin D. Scott
 Here's what's on my bookshelf. Of these, I
 like Mullet /Sano and Spolsky the best:

I would also recommend Don't Make Me Think! by Steve Krug.  I would hold
off and wait for the second edition due in July before buying it though.
The first edition is great, but getting a little dated.


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CFFILE - I'm sure this has been discussed before...

2005-03-15 Thread Che Vilnonis
Why can't I upload images via cffile on a Mac computer?
My code bombs on Safari and IE 5.23. It works on a PC.

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NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Rick Root
Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I 
did one myself.  It is public domain!

http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm

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Re: CF AJAX implementations

2005-03-15 Thread Deanna Schneider
Holy crap. When ya gonna give that away to the community? ;)

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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: CF AJAX implementations


 Currently working on it in my spare time. Fully xhtml compliant, css 
 layouted and almost entirely maintained with xmlHttpRequests.

 http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/cms.jpg

 

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Re: CF AJAX implementations

2005-03-15 Thread Micha Schopman
When its done, most of the time is involved in thinking how to handle the user 
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userfriendly as possible. That is even harder than creating it. Sometimes it 
takes weeks thinking through functionality (and waking up in the middle of the 
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Re: CFCASE and variables ...

2005-03-15 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Hello,
 Can someone please explain to me why cfcase can not use a
 variable as it's
 value, I would expect this to be a simple and useful
 feature. And does
 anyone know a way around this?

 Thanks,
 - Charles

The subject has been beaten to death in previous threads on this
list... it's always been this way -- afaik there aren't any _plans_ to
change it...

you might try this:

cfswitch expression=#exp#
  cfcase value=staticcase.../cfcase
  cfdefaultcase
cfif expression is othervariable
  ...
cfelse
  ...
/cfif
  /cfdefaultcase
/cfswitch

Also note the delimiters attribute in the cf-case tag allows you to
specify multiple values for a single case statement -- which may or
may not help, dependent upon your purpose.

Also the cfscript implementation of switch-case follows the ecmascript
rules (which are also the same as switch-case constructs in C/C++,
Java, etc.)

switch (expression) {
  case val1: { ; } // this line will make val1 have the same result
as val1
  case val2: { ... break; }
  default: {
...
  }
}

hth

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Re: So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Robertson
So if I don't use J2EE sessions in my work I'm not going to hit this,
or is that an oversimplification?  Since I don't use them and have
them shut off in CF 6 that would be an easy thing for me to do.

One way or another CF7 is in the picture.  However the workarounds
I've seen -- specifically the ones revolving around wrapping the
cfapplication statement in a try catch block -- seem almost worse than
the cure.  They keep the app from crashing at the expense of the
session.  Since I don't have to deal with the shared server concept
I'd love to know if I can flip a switch and sidestep this issue
entirely.

One disturbing comment on the C'Tech forum made by Tim Uzzanti

their new licensing functions that scan subnets have been killing
services causing some of the session issues

Thats pretty scary.  Everyone's fear with these sorts of things is
exactly what he is reporting.  Can anyone elaborate on this?  Or is it
something that is specific to the user, to put it as delicately as
possible.

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RE: NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Eric Creese
okay I am in

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: NCAA Pool App


Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I 
did one myself.  It is public domain!

http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm

You can all join my pool while you're at it. =)

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Re: NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Tony Weeg
looks cool rick, might jazz it up, and make sql server database for it...

on another note...isnt it Fairleigh Dickinson

tw


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I
 did one myself.  It is public domain!
 
 http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm
 
 You can all join my pool while you're at it. =)
 
  - Rick
 
 

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Re: CFCASE and variables ...

2005-03-15 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 In CF, based on some testing I did a while back, the
 performance of the case construct versus the conditional
 one was close enough to ignore the difference, so you're
 not going to be taking a performance
 hit by choosing one over the other.

Although that's not why I use switch-case constructs anyway... heh...
I use them because they're easier to read. Although I use the cfscript
switch-case constructs for cascading logic -- which isn't really
available with cfswitch...

switch (arraylen(arguments)) {
  case 0: { arg1 = default1; }
  case 1: { arg2 = default2; }
  case 2: { arg3 = default3; }
}

Not a great example, but it works... Not a great example because I've
actually stopped using this method lately in favor of an
ArrayToStruct() function...

function ArrayToStruct(ar,keys) {
  var st = structnew();
  var x = 0; var last = 0;

  keys = listtoarray(keys);
  last = max(arraylen(ar),arraylen(keys));
  for (x = 1; x lte last; x = x + 1) {
st[keys[x]] = ar[x];
  } return st;
}

myargs = ArrayToStruct(somearray,arg1,arg2,arg3);

then I use cfparam or equivalent to create my defaults.

It's not really necessary with cffunction but I still like to write
functions with cfscript when I can. Just a quirky syntactical
preference of mine -- I don't have to explicitly state output=false
among other things. I've gotten into the habbit of creating a var'ed
structure to store local variables in the function also, so I don't
have to var everything I use in the function as long as I'm putting my
local variables in that structure. It's useful for some of the larger
/ more complex functions. Although at this point I'm just rambling. :)


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RE: NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Kristopher Pilles
Me too... 



-Original Message-
From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: NCAA Pool App


okay I am in

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: NCAA Pool App


Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I 
did one myself.  It is public domain!

http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm

You can all join my pool while you're at it. =)

  - Rick





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Re: CFFILE - I'm sure this has been discussed before...

2005-03-15 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Hi Che,

Not sure why it wouldn't work with Safari, but the version of IE
produced for Mac had a bug which appended a carriage return to the end
of the file, thus destroying the integrity of the data during upload.
Iirc there was a fix for that released -- a hotfix/patch I believe
-- but of course you have to be able to find it on the MS site to
download it...

This google search produces a few results, but the one that claims to
have a link to the fix provides a url to a page that's not found on
the MS site... :-/ Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=macintosh+%22internet+explore
r%22+%22upload+bug%22btnG=Search

 Why can't I upload images via cffile on a Mac computer?
 My code bombs on Safari and IE 5.23. It works on a PC.

 --
 cfif Len(Trim(FORM.thumbnail))

   cffile
   action=UPLOAD
   filefield=FORM.thumbnail
   destination=#DirPath#
   accept=image/pjpeg
   nameconflict=MAKEUNIQUE

   cfset vThumbnail = cffile.ServerFile /

 /cfif
 --

 Thanks, Che


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RE: OT - UI problems

2005-03-15 Thread Dave Watts
 Unlike most developers theses days, I don't believe that 
 usability or UI creativity can be picked up in a book. There 
 needs to be a solid basis of artistic merit coupled with a 
 clean, modern, intuitive way of thinking.
 
 Through the good and the bad, real-world corporate experience 
 is what counts. The more the better.

While creativity, by its very definition, cannot be picked up by a book,
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discussing real-world corporate experience to point out that most real-world
corporate applications have awful UIs, and no one really cares that much.

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RE: NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Eric Creese
DOes not matter they will be out of it before you blink

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: NCAA Pool App


looks cool rick, might jazz it up, and make sql server database for it...

on another note...isnt it Fairleigh Dickinson

tw


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I
 did one myself.  It is public domain!
 
 http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm
 
 You can all join my pool while you're at it. =)
 
  - Rick
 
 



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RE: WS-Security Implementation

2005-03-15 Thread Kevin Aebig
Somebody... anybody... I know you're out there. =]

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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: WS-Security Implementation


Hey All,

I'm trying to find out if there is anyway to implement the webservice
standard for security WS within CF6 or CF7? I've hunted and found nothing on
the topic which leads me to believe that it could only be done through the
use of JAVA...

Can anyone shed some light on this?

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RE: WS-Security Implementation

2005-03-15 Thread Dave Watts
 I'm trying to find out if there is anyway to implement the 
 webservice standard for security WS within CF6 or CF7? I've 
 hunted and found nothing on the topic which leads me to 
 believe that it could only be done through the use of JAVA...
 
 Can anyone shed some light on this?

While Apache Axis, the underlying library used for web services by CFMX, can
be used with various WS-Security libraries like WSS4J, I really don't think
you can use those libraries yourself from within CF.

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Re: NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Tony Weeg
rick...

where do you want bug submissions?

tw


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I
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 http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm
 
 You can all join my pool while you're at it. =)
 
  - Rick
 
 

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RE: CFCASE and variables ...

2005-03-15 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Nope -- that's invalid. The value attribute of the cfcase tag doesn't
accept variables. Which is why he posted originally.

 #variable# should work.

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Heizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:40 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFCASE and variables ...

 Hello,
 Can someone please explain to me why cfcase can not use a
 variable as it's
 value, I would expect this to be a simple and useful
 feature. And does
 anyone know a way around this?

 Thanks,
 - Charles

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RE: WS-Security Implementation

2005-03-15 Thread Kevin Aebig
I had heard that CF7 had an implementation (perhaps only in the enterprise
version)... was this mistaken?

Thanks for the insight BTW..

Sincerely,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: WS-Security Implementation


 I'm trying to find out if there is anyway to implement the
 webservice standard for security WS within CF6 or CF7? I've
 hunted and found nothing on the topic which leads me to
 believe that it could only be done through the use of JAVA...

 Can anyone shed some light on this?

While Apache Axis, the underlying library used for web services by CFMX, can
be used with various WS-Security libraries like WSS4J, I really don't think
you can use those libraries yourself from within CF.

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Re: OT - UI problems

2005-03-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 While creativity, by its very definition, cannot be picked up by a book,
 usability and other important UI concerns can. And it's important when
 discussing real-world corporate experience to point out that most 
 real-world
 corporate applications have awful UIs, and no one really cares that much.

Hear hear Dave!

This isn't UI entirely, but someone from Australia mentioned an experience 
with an HP site and being asked for contact info in a US-centric format 
(which he couldn't enter).  It just goes to show that we can theorize 
ourselves to death..but alot of times what sells is NOT high quality 
customer focused appsit's the app with the pretty swirling doo-hickey 
that the investor with $20 million likes ;-)

I'm sure in he cae of the HP site...some manager that didn't know any better 
said Wow...that looks great...fire it up live!

my 2 cents for ya

Cheers

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Re: NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Tony Weeg
i know :)

but...

also, you can pick a winner in a future game, if you made them a loser
in a previous game...

tw


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:06 -0600, Eric Creese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 DOes not matter they will be out of it before you blink
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:04 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: NCAA Pool App
 
 looks cool rick, might jazz it up, and make sql server database for it...
 
 on another note...isnt it Fairleigh Dickinson
 
 tw
 
 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I
  did one myself.  It is public domain!
 
  http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm
 
  You can all join my pool while you're at it. =)
 
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RE: WS-Security Implementation

2005-03-15 Thread Dave Watts
 I had heard that CF7 had an implementation (perhaps only in 
 the enterprise version)... was this mistaken?

I hadn't heard anything about it, but that doesn't mean much. To the extent
that WS-Security means custom SOAP headers, you could interact with that
through CF, but other parts of WS-Security involve signed content, etc,
which CF doesn't give you an interface to deal with. That all said, I'm no
WS-Security expert. Maybe Tom Jordahl will weigh in with more information.

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Using Jabber to connect CF to Yahoo! (or AIM or MSN)

2005-03-15 Thread Scott Stroz
An earlier thread discussed using Jabber to connect CF to Yahoo! or
AIM or MSN.  After gettin gthis working, I promised a blog entry to
walk through the process.  Here it is:

http://www.boyzoid.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=A82A21E0-E081-2BAC-6942512B1394E738

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Re: NCAA Pool App

2005-03-15 Thread Scott Stroz
Those of us from NJ refer to it as 'Fairly Ridiculous'.


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:56 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 looks cool rick, might jazz it up, and make sql server database for it...
 
 on another note...isnt it Fairleigh Dickinson
 
 tw
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Okay, since nobody apparently has written an NCAA pool application, I
  did one myself.  It is public domain!
 
  http://www.webworksllc.com/finalfour/about.cfm
 
  You can all join my pool while you're at it. =)
 
   - Rick
 
 
 
 

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What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Donna French
I work for a small company and have for about three years now, and I'm
either going to have to create something new or find a blunt object to
mutilate myself with. They are happy with the web app and what it does
as is, so I'm not getting any demands or direction in the way of
writing or even editing any code. Although I enjoy small doses of the
webmaster side of things, I do not want it to be my full-time job -
and at this rate it is going to be. Just wondering (hoping) some of
you out there have been in a similar situation at one time or another,
and what you did to get out of the rut?

TIA!!!

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OT: Domain Traffic

2005-03-15 Thread Tarantor
 

Hi,

 

I know it is OT but I need a quick suggestion.

 

I must find a solution to calculate traffic for domains on a Windows 2003
Standard Server. I just want to see traffic for every domains (virtual)
separately.

 

Any suggestion?

 

 

Best regards,

 

OĆ°uz DemirkapĆ½

 



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Re: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Will Tomlinson
Thought about working on any personal projects? I usually fill time with those. 
Brainstorming my next big idea.   :) 

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RE: What to do - stagnant job

2005-03-15 Thread Ian Skinner
Build a demo of something, then show the powers that be the demo and they'll 
want it, want it now, and want to know why they just can't use the demo!

That's pretty much how our entire intranet came into being.




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-Original Message-
From: Donna French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What to do - stagnant job

I work for a small company and have for about three years now, and I'm
either going to have to create something new or find a blunt object to
mutilate myself with. They are happy with the web app and what it does
as is, so I'm not getting any demands or direction in the way of
writing or even editing any code. Although I enjoy small doses of the
webmaster side of things, I do not want it to be my full-time job -
and at this rate it is going to be. Just wondering (hoping) some of
you out there have been in a similar situation at one time or another,
and what you did to get out of the rut?

TIA!!!

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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