Re: CFGrid Flash format and href

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
Though I've never done it myself, I'm quite sure you'll need to use a 
CustomCellRenderer. This is how you do it from inside the IDE and not much 
is different...

Just a guess,

Kevin

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> How can I use href inside of a Flash format grid.
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Micha Schopman
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no need to compete with Microsoft.
Both companies haven't really got competing products sold as so, and
while I see it mentioned a lot, Avalon is not a foundation for RIA
development. Avalon is merely the new surrounding framework for graphics
(vectorized), and XAML would be the MXML for WinForms, not the web. XAML
introduces a new way of building Windows applications by using the XML
format XAML (which is actually a direct translation of Avalon function
calls) so people, just like Flex, design the interface of their
application with XML but purely for pure Windows applications. 


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RE: SMS and billing

2005-04-18 Thread Justin D. Scott
> We're talking about SMS messaging and the possibility
> of billing our customers through their mobile phone
> bill. I understand how the CF part technically works,
> SMS gateways and stuff. What I don't know is how we 
> actually bill them.  Does anyone have any links or
> know where I can go to find this kind of info?
> Anybody know how it works?

I would suspect that the only two ways to get something to show up on
someone's phone bill would be to either have them dial a 1-900 number, or to
have an arrangement with the phone company to place the item on their bill.
I highly doubt there is a way to put something on their bill simply by
sending a specially formatted SMS message or the like (unless you had a
special deal worked out with them as mentioned above).  That would be a
major security issue, to say the least.


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RE: Errors working out last inserted ID

2005-04-18 Thread Justin D. Scott
> Sorry guys, this is working... I was doing
> something wrong...  Sorry if I've
> taken up any of your time... :)

I suspect the solution involved a ; character in a specific spot, but why
don't you post the solution for the archive in case someone else has a
similar issue in the future .


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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread dave
hide it  like
   listbox_mc._visible = false;

then depending on when you want to unhide it call it back on button click or 
whatever
listbox_mc._visible = true;


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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

Ok. I got the colors and fonts working. Now I just have the problem 
that when I have a component in a sub-movie and I set the sub-movie's 
alpha to 0, any text the component uses still shows up.

So say on a frame I have a movie object called listdialog, and in the 
movie I have a list box component and 3 button components. If I set 
listdialog to an alpha of 0 and put a stop in the AS I won't see the 
button shapes, but I will see there text labels.

What am I missing?

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CFGrid Flash format and href

2005-04-18 Thread Gator Sean
How can I use href inside of a Flash format grid.

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Johnson
Ok.  I got the colors and fonts working.  Now I just have the problem 
that when I have a component in a sub-movie and I set the sub-movie's 
alpha to 0, any text the component uses still shows up.

So say on a frame I have a movie object called listdialog, and in the 
movie I have a list box component and 3 button components.  If I set 
listdialog to an alpha of 0 and put a stop in the AS I won't see the 
button shapes, but I will see there text labels.

What am I missing?

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RE: CFMX7 schedule task every < 60 seconds.

2005-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
> Does anyone know how to get the cfmx7 scheduler to schedule a 
> task for execution more frequently than 60 seconds.  If you 
> enter less than "60" in the seconds box, you get the error 
> "The task interval must be greater then 60 seconds.". I'm 
> willing to invoke sorcery or edit obscure configuration files 
> if necessary.

I don't know if you can shorten that interval from within CF - my guess is
no - but there's no reason why you can't add multiple tasks to the CF
scheduler that run the same page. You may also be able to schedule tasks to
run more frequently from the OS task scheduler (or you might not, for all I
know).

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Re: SQL Triggers (was Re: Last ID inserted)

2005-04-18 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
WOW... an amazingly appropos analogy.

And... how true it is. ;)

J

On 4/18/05, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Trust me. Triggers in the DB world are not looked on as good practive.
> 
> I will second that in the DBA world Triggers are not looked upon
> fondly in most circumstances...they have thier use though and to
> blindly say they are completely useless is well blind. Triggers in the
> database world are like Ritalin in the real world...over valued, over
> used, and generally used when something else could be done; but there
> are some cases where it is genuinely useful and perfectly appropriate
> to be used. :)
> 
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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Rebecca Wells
Just a guess here, but I think if you read between the lines in the press 
release, it's not too much of a leap to put 2 + 2 together here. My guess is 
that Macromedia has the vision and the inovation, but is (and this is 
speculation on my part) under capitialized. Adobe is solid, a bit more 
conservative, but better capitalized. Together, they would be a solid, 
inovative software company that can better compete with the big dogs (read 
Microsoft). If there is somebody out there that is into reading financial 
statements and doing stock analysis, tell me, am I wrong?

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RE: ColdFusion 5 - setting server wide default locale

2005-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
> after an extremely stressful week, in which our main 
> webserver blew up its hard drive [scream], we are in the 
> process of reinstalling everything. And nowhere can we see 
> how to set the server wide locale to UK, and I can't find 
> anything on google.
> 
> can anyone help? Much obliged :)

I don't think you can set a server-wide locale with CF 5 at all, actually.

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Andrew Tyrone
> > Now, tell me, anybody, please, maybe I am just uneducated in the 
> > matter. Give me three innovations by Adobe this century.
> > I may settle for two. Oh, and standard product releases don't count 
> > (that's just a response to user suggestions).
> > 
> > A company that has delivered solid products (don't get me wrong, I 
> > like PDF's) a long time ago, and has failed to capitalize on their 
> > success has made a wise decision to acquire MM.
> 
> Actually, there are quite a few innovations within the PDF 
> file format itself, such as revision tracking and digital 
> signatures. Don't discount these sorts of things - they're a 
> big deal; very useful and innovative within the world of 
> document management.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/

Yeah, I can attest to this.  Digital signatures and watermarking, in
addition to formfield filling have been a boon to a few of our clients in
the medical and drug testing industries.  The encryption and watermarking of
highly sensitive data in PDF documents in addition to the easy-to-use PDF
format has gone a long way in this area.

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Sure Matt...and I was just trying to get the point across that user's do not 
care why something is slow (if they care at all...as obviously yours 
don't)...they just want it (fast or otherwise)...and don't care if it's the 
format or the software or the alien signals invading their system that is 
slowing things down ;-)

and nope...I didn't mention anything about installing Adobe (it's on my 
system...slow as molasses...but there ya go)

Cheers

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Matt Robertson
Bryan,

I was talking about the "they want it fast and they want it now" part
and didn't do such a good job of snipping (also obliquely to a comment
--  I hope it was you -- :D regarding not wanting to install Acrobat
on your system).

In our document-delivery system (where a customer logs in and
retrieves one or several large pdf docs that are a part of their
current or past account history) Speed has been a non-issue.  Ubiquity
was where the trouble was.  In 1998 I had all sorts of support calls
to deal with over with it.  Those have been gone for a lonnng time
now.

Half the desktops in that office refuse to download Flash plugins thru
Firefox... I'd hate to think what I'd have had to do if they wanted to
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
> Now, tell me, anybody, please, maybe I am just uneducated in 
> the matter. Give me three innovations by Adobe this century. 
> I may settle for two. Oh, and standard product releases don't 
> count (that's just a response to user suggestions).
> 
> A company that has delivered solid products (don't get me 
> wrong, I like PDF's) a long time ago, and has failed to 
> capitalize on their success has made a wise decision to acquire 
> MM.

Actually, there are quite a few innovations within the PDF file format
itself, such as revision tracking and digital signatures. Don't discount
these sorts of things - they're a big deal; very useful and innovative
within the world of document management.

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RE: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
> PDF on a mobile device does not make sense. PDF is for PRINT. 
> Why would someone want a printable document on thier phone? 
> Not to mention the quality and filesize issues. FlashPaper is 
> perfect for the mobile document. Don't expect them to get rid 
> of it any time soon, the only thing you'll most likely see is 
> a different name for it.

Actually, PDF is a good format for documents on mobile devices. At least,
they work well on the Pocket PC. You can design specifically for mobile
devices within Acrobat.

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Scott Wolf
 
Of course, the first products to get combined are going to be Freehand
and Illustrator...

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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread dave
he just doesnt like flashpaper because he doesnt like the way it displays fonts


From: Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:12 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Bloomberg article 

Uhhh... considering the post you replied to cut+pasted one of several
paragraphs which explicity talked about FlashPaper... exactly what are
you talking about?

PDF on a mobile device does not make sense. PDF is for PRINT. Why
would someone want a printable document on thier phone? Not to mention
the quality and filesize issues. FlashPaper is perfect for the mobile
document. Don't expect them to get rid of it any time soon, the only
thing you'll most likely see is a different name for it.

-Adam

> > 'Do you expect to integrate the FlashPlayer and the Adobe Reader? The
> > complementary functionality of FlashPlayer and Adobe Reader will
> > enable the deployment of a more robust cross-media, rich-client
> > technology platform. The combined company will continue to be
> > committed to the needs of both the FlashPlayer and Adobe Reader
> > users.'
> 
> Which can be read... "Flash: hmmm... quite cool! We'll have some of
> that. Quite happy with PDF now, even if the reader's a bloated hog.
> FlashPaper? That's quite up in the air. Quite a bit like PDF though..."
> 
> Notice that not once in the FAQ was FlashPaper mentioned. Therefore
> one can read it as neither an endorsement or otherwise of FlashPaper.
> My thinking is that Adobe won't see the point in supporting two
> all-too-similar products, much as I expect that Freehand will give
> way to Illustrator (which I'll regret as I quite like Freehand),
> Fireworks to give way to Photoshop/Imageready, and GoLive to give way
> to Dreamweaver. I think Flash itself is quite safe, as is CF, but
> I've great doubts about FlashPaper.
> 
> PDF is perfectly capable of being used in a mobile environment, it's
> Reader that's the problem. It's an error to confuse the file format
> with the software. If Adobe want a version of Reader that will work
> ok on small machines, they'll do it. However, I think they'll
> concentrate on one file format rather than two[1].
> 
> K.
> 
> [1] This is your chance to make a "but what about PostScript" comment.
> ;-)
> 
> 



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RE: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread dave
the space was a typo

 if his instance name on the listbox he wanted to change was BaseListBox then 
it would be correct, if he just wanted it on all listboxes then he would 
substitute BaseListBox with listBox or for the everything on the whole site 
like u said


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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:52 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

> _global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");

Thats wrong... theres a space before BaseListBox. As well, that will look
for a global variable containing a reference to the control.

This looks to change the global style object for the default "Halo" theme...

_global.style.setStyle("themeColor", 0xff);

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Greg Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

nope. Still got green instead of red

dave wrote:

>ok so you are in flash ide
> you dont need to _root, you can use global styles instead
>
> _global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson 
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:38 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>
>We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox
>will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate
>the listbox. Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if
>the movie its in has a alpha of 0.
>
>dave wrote:
>
>
>
>>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>>
>>I tried that, no color change
>>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex
value where ff is)
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Greg Johnson
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>>>
>>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's
>>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even
>>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc,
>>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good
>>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread dave
using that code you are setting the entire halotheme and not just on a specic 
component or instance


From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:51 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

For some reason it just started working.

I placed a button on the first frame of the movie and called the 
instance Test
I then entered the code on the first frame this
_global.style.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);

I know I did this before, so I have no idea why it just started 
working. I moved the button into the sub-movie that has the form and it 
worked, and the list box used the red correctly as well. Only problem 
now is that the black text in the button stays visable when the 
sub-movie it is in is set to alpha 0. But I have found that the default 
_sans/_serif fonts seem to cause that vs using Arial.

dave wrote:

>do you have a general global variable set?
> is the instance name correct?
>
> can you paste the .as code?
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson 
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:30 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>
>nope. Still got green instead of red
>
>dave wrote:
>
> 
>
>>ok so you are in flash ide
>>you dont need to _root, you can use global styles instead
>>
>>_global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:38 PM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>
>>We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox 
>>will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate 
>>the listbox. Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if 
>>the movie its in has a alpha of 0.
>>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>>>To: CF-Talk 
>>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>>
>>>I tried that, no color change
>>>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>>>
>>>dave wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex 
value where ff is)


From: Greg Johnson 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's 
haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even 
look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc, 
just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good 
info on setting up your own UI component color style?

Thanks







 

>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
> 
>

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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Uhhh... considering the post you replied to cut+pasted one of several
paragraphs which explicity talked about FlashPaper... exactly what are
you talking about?

PDF on a mobile device does not make sense. PDF is for PRINT. Why
would someone want a printable document on thier phone? Not to mention
the quality and filesize issues. FlashPaper is perfect for the mobile
document. Don't expect them to get rid of it any time soon, the only
thing you'll most likely see is a different name for it.

-Adam

> > 'Do you expect to integrate the FlashPlayer and the Adobe Reader? The
> > complementary functionality of FlashPlayer and Adobe Reader will
> > enable the deployment of a more robust cross-media, rich-client
> > technology platform. The combined company will continue to be
> > committed to the needs of both the FlashPlayer and Adobe Reader
> > users.'
> 
> Which can be read... "Flash: hmmm... quite cool! We'll have some of
> that. Quite happy with PDF now, even if the reader's a bloated hog.
> FlashPaper? That's quite up in the air. Quite a bit like PDF though..."
> 
> Notice that not once in the FAQ was FlashPaper mentioned. Therefore
> one can read it as neither an endorsement or otherwise of FlashPaper.
> My thinking is that Adobe won't see the point in supporting two
> all-too-similar products, much as I expect that Freehand will give
> way to Illustrator (which I'll regret as I quite like Freehand),
> Fireworks to give way to Photoshop/Imageready, and GoLive to give way
> to Dreamweaver. I think Flash itself is quite safe, as is CF, but
> I've great doubts about FlashPaper.
> 
> PDF is perfectly capable of being used in a mobile environment, it's
> Reader that's the problem. It's an error to confuse the file format
> with the software. If Adobe want a version of Reader that will work
> ok on small machines, they'll do it. However, I think they'll
> concentrate on one file format rather than two[1].
> 
> K.
> 
> [1] This is your chance to make a "but what about PostScript" comment.
> ;-)
> 
> 

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RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Paul Vernon
> Yup - this is the guy I was talking about - he works with me here in
Boston
> (well - in the same building at least - we've not been on the same project
> for several years now).

Cool,

You can tell him from me that his code is still running just fine :)

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RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Paul Vernon
> I thought that Delphi had it's own, just like Access.

Delphi is a language and is DB agnostic. It does ship with native Paradox,
dbExpress, Interbase and ADO components so really, like you've said, you do
need to know what the database technology is for your specific app before
you can go much farther

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Richard Crawford
On Monday 18 April 2005 14:40, Damien McKenna wrote:
> > Let's face it, the internet needs and overhaul at this stage,
> > and RIA's show promise.
>
> Several companies have attempted to provide an alternative method of
> interacting with the internet.  One of the best was Rebol
> (http://www.rebol.com/) but they've been on life support for several
> years.  RIAs are another attempt.  XUL applications are another attempt.
> Microsoft's Avalon is yet another attempt.  Which will gain substantial
> marketshare and last past the next three years is hard to say, I suspect
> Microsoft will possibly become the defacto standard simply because
> people always upgrade their Windows machines to the latest and greatest.

The Internet has been around for, what, twenty years, and it's only been in 
the last six or seven years that anyone outside a few universities and 
government agencies has even taken an interest in it.  The World Wide Web is 
but one part of the Internet, although it's certainly one that's growing in 
importance (because a website that you can look at in Firefox is a heck of a 
lot more interesting than an SCP session to the average user).

Microsoft has attempted several times to gain control over the user's 
experience of the Internet, without success.  Hopefully, MS will continue to 
fail in its attempt to dominate the Internet; I, for one, would really hate 
to see the Internet Microsized.

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Bryan Stevenson
> MM hasn't just shown vision for its products, but for the internet, and 
> how
> the user will interact with the internet. Thats what I love about Flex, 
> it's
> the MM guys said "how SHOULD it work", and then built the language around 
> it
> (but that's another discussion for another day). Bottom line, Innovation.

and who's to say this isn't the exact reason Adobe is buying MM??? ;-)

The speculation monster will keep you up nightsjust remember...silver 
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
I wouldn't count Flash RIA's out of the race yet as Microsoft has alot of
catching up to do. Of course, if the new masters of Flash begin to put a bad
spin on things, it won't take long for that to die.

Not to mention they never seem to get new technologies right the first time
out of the gate...

Cheers,

Kevin

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> Let's face it, the internet needs and overhaul at this stage,
> and RIA's show promise.

Several companies have attempted to provide an alternative method of
interacting with the internet.  One of the best was Rebol
(http://www.rebol.com/) but they've been on life support for several
years.  RIAs are another attempt.  XUL applications are another attempt.
Microsoft's Avalon is yet another attempt.  Which will gain substantial
marketshare and last past the next three years is hard to say, I suspect
Microsoft will possibly become the defacto standard simply because
people always upgrade their Windows machines to the latest and greatest.

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
I really like the way you put this:

MM hasn't just shown vision for its products, but for the internet, and how
the user will interact with the internet. Thats what I love about Flex, it's
the MM guys said "how SHOULD it work", and then built the language around it
(but that's another discussion for another day). Bottom line, Innovation.

Well said, and good questions!

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: david omalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

You know, I don't mind change, especially if it's for good, however, there's
obviously something I'm not seeing in the acquisition (from a MM point of
view).

MM has a vision not only for its products, but the internet. Changing the
user experience, rapid development, using Flash as the linchpin. Let's face
it, the internet needs and overhaul at this stage, and RIA's show promise.

MM hasn't just shown vision for its products, but for the internet, and how
the user will interact with the internet. Thats what I love about Flex, it's
the MM guys said "how SHOULD it work", and then built the language around it
(but that's another discussion for another day). Bottom line, Innovation.

Now, tell me, anybody, please, maybe I am just uneducated in the matter.
Give me three innovations by Adobe this century. I may settle for two. Oh,
and standard product releases don't count (that's just a response to user
suggestions).

A company that has delivered solid products (don't get me wrong, I like
PDF's) a long time ago, and has failed to capitalize on their success has
made a wise decision to acquire MM.

The board of the innovative company has said "yes" to that, is that wise? I
just don't see it, I don't see why, and noone has been able to articulate it
to me without the usual buzz words of "exciting", "potential" and
"committed".

Am I wrong? What's the vision?



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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Damien McKenna
> Let's face it, the internet needs and overhaul at this stage,
> and RIA's show promise.

Several companies have attempted to provide an alternative method of
interacting with the internet.  One of the best was Rebol
(http://www.rebol.com/) but they've been on life support for several
years.  RIAs are another attempt.  XUL applications are another attempt.
Microsoft's Avalon is yet another attempt.  Which will gain substantial
marketshare and last past the next three years is hard to say, I suspect
Microsoft will possibly become the defacto standard simply because
people always upgrade their Windows machines to the latest and greatest.

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread david omalley
You know, I don't mind change, especially if it's for good, however, there's 
obviously something I'm not seeing in the acquisition (from a MM point of view).

MM has a vision not only for its products, but the internet. Changing the user 
experience, rapid development, using Flash as the linchpin. Let's face it, the 
internet needs and overhaul at this stage, and RIA's show promise.

MM hasn't just shown vision for its products, but for the internet, and how the 
user will interact with the internet. Thats what I love about Flex, it's the MM 
guys said "how SHOULD it work", and then built the language around it (but 
that's another discussion for another day). Bottom line, Innovation.

Now, tell me, anybody, please, maybe I am just uneducated in the matter. Give 
me three innovations by Adobe this century. I may settle for two. Oh, and 
standard product releases don't count (that's just a response to user 
suggestions).

A company that has delivered solid products (don't get me wrong, I like PDF's) 
a long time ago, and has failed to capitalize on their success has made a wise 
decision to acquire MM.

The board of the innovative company has said "yes" to that, is that wise? I 
just don't see it, I don't see why, and noone has been able to articulate it to 
me without the usual buzz words of "exciting", "potential" and "committed".

Am I wrong? What's the vision?

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Damien McKenna
Or the subgenius.  Or Alvis.

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> From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> > Adobe is the Devil and the World is going to end.
> > Pray to the Lord!.
> 
> HAHA LOL... well I don't think even the healing hands of
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
> Adobe is the Devil and the World is going to end.
> Pray to the Lord!.

HAHA LOL... well I don't think even the healing hands of
Jesus are gonna save LiveMotion...

Kevin

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Hummm

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Adobe is the Devil and the World is going to end.
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Enviado el: Lunes, 18 de Abril de 2005 15:40
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

HS+ is alive and well on my machine :)

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>
> On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
> >
> > - Calvin
>
> according to whom? cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?
>
> --
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread David Manriquez
Hummm

Coldfusion Studio still playing around here on mi PC :)

The BEST TOOL for CF'ers



Adobe is the Devil and the World is going to end. 
Pray to the Lord!.


David Manriquez Desarrollador



-Mensaje original-
De: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: Lunes, 18 de Abril de 2005 15:40
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

HS+ is alive and well on my machine :)

On 4/18/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
> >
> > - Calvin
> 
> according to whom? cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?
> 
> --
> tony
> 
> Tony Weeg
> 
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> email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
> cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
> 
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> - randy moss, now a raider
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Re: Errors working out last inserted ID

2005-04-18 Thread Stuart Kidd
Sorry guys, this is working... I was doing something wrong... Sorry if I've
taken up any of your time... :)

Saturday


On 18/4/05 9:43 pm, "Stuart Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I've created a bit of code which is inserting to a few tables.  I've
> implemented the @@identity and am having problems as an error is being
> returned saying:
> 
>  Element INTERVIEWERUSERID is undefined in INSERTNEWINTERVIEWER.
> 
> That particular line it the one I have put asterisks around.
> 
> Does anyone know why it's not working?  I guess I haven't implemented the
> @@identity properly.
> 
> Any help would be great.  Thanks.
> 
> Saturday
> 
> ps: my code is below.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> SELECT userID, emailAddress, password
> FROM tbl_020publicUsers
> WHERE emailAddress = '#form.interviewerEmail#'
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   CharacterSet="alphanumeric"
> Case="mixed"
> Symbols="no"
> Length="8"
> ReturnVariable="NewPassword">
> 
> 
> SET NOCOUNT ON
> INSERT INTO tbl_020publicUsers (emailAddress, password)
> VALUES ('#Form.interviewerEmail#', '#NewPassword#')
> SELECT @@IDENTITY as interviewerUserID
> SET NOCOUNT OFF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> SELECT userID, emailAddress, password
> FROM tbl_020publicUsers
> WHERE emailAddress = '#form.intervieweeEmail#'
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   CharacterSet="alphanumeric"
> Case="mixed"
> Symbols="no"
> Length="8"
> ReturnVariable="NewPassword">
> 
> 
> SET NOCOUNT ON
> INSERT INTO tbl_020publicUsers (emailAddress, password)
> VALUES ('#Form.intervieweeEmail#', '#NewPassword#')
> SELECT @@IDENTITY as IntervieweeUserID
> SET NOCOUNT OFF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> SET NOCOUNT ON
> INSERT INTO tbl_020publicInterviews (interviewTitle, interviewerID,
> intervieweeID)
> VALUES ('#Form.interviewTitle#',
> #InsertNewInterviewer.interviewerUserID#,
> #InsertNewInterviewee.intervieweeUserID#)
> SELECT @@IDENTITY as InterviewID
> SET NOCOUNT OFF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> INSERT INTO tbl_020publicQuestions (interviewID, question)
> VALUES (#InsertInterviewDetails.interviewID#,
> '#Evaluate('form.question' & i)#')
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> And the other alternative is the reality that Adobe certainly seems more
> litigious...
> http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/28/2810mac
> ro
> ..html
> 
> Wonder if that could spell hard times for the alternate CF 'engines'?

I really doubt it - time and time again the courts have sided that you can't
copyright a language.

As long as other CFML engines don't steal code from CF (and considering how
different the run-time engines are for them I doubt this will happen) then I
think they should be safe.

If Adobe really wanted to kill them they might create nuisance suits they
know they can't win just to drain resources, but I doubt that will happen.

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COM object woes

2005-04-18 Thread John Stanley
yipee!!

j/k

I know I have posted on something similar to this before, but searching the
hof archives is turning up nada.

We have been sucessfully connecting to a com object that is registered on
our CFServer for months.

I can see this object using OLEView and the class name is the same thing
that it used to be. I can run the software that this object is part of with
no problems. The vendor had created a connect tester to hit their com object
with to see if it responds. All of this works. I'm 99% sure it isn't the
object.

When I try to connect to this object using this simple code:


miler = CreateObject("Com","PCMServer.PCMServer.1");


the server just hangs. it wont respond until I kill jrun. then i can go back
into the app after it restarts.

no specific error messages are being generated, that I can find.

I have tried wrapping the code above in cftry-cfcatch to see if it can trap
any errors occuring, but it just hangs.

we are cfmx 6.1.0.63958 win2k sp2

anyone have any ideas on how I can at least view the problem that is
occuring so I have some idea on what to do next?

it seems like my only option at this point is to resintall cfmx.


John Stanley
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http://www.activeaero.com
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Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Howie Hamlin
Delphi typically uses the BDE (Borland Database Engine) which is somewhat like 
ODBC (Borland was a pioneer in this and then MS came
out with ODBC).  The BDE was typically used to connect to Dbase, Paradox, 
Interbase (which evolved into Forebird), etc.  Later
versions of the BDE included drivers for MSSql and others.  There are also 
third-party add-ons to connect to ODBC, MySQl, PostGres,
etc.

So, basically, it can really be most any kind of database...

HTh,

Howie

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From: "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF


> >>I write all my CFX tags in Delphi,
>
> Thanks for the info, but the problem here is not how to write a CF
> application in Delphi, but to rewrite a Delphi application in CF, using
> the same database.
> I think the first thing I need to know now is the type of database which
> is used.
> I thought that Delphi had it's own, just like Access.
>
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
And the other alternative is the reality that Adobe certainly seems more
litigious...
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/28/2810macro
..html 

Wonder if that could spell hard times for the alternate CF 'engines'?



-Original Message-
From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: AW: macromedia and Adobe?!

Hi guys,

We at railo look forward to the upcoming times. Either way it will be
good for Bluedragon or Railo. If Adobe decides to discontinue CF which
from a busines point ov view i would prefer, but from a private point of
view i would not prefer, the CF family needs to shift to another
CF-Server.
If not, CF will be one of many products by Adobe and it will not be as
important as it was before at Macromedia. But if Adobe thinks about
pushing CF, the would have to improve it with many new features and
change the price to one a mass product.
So either way, I guess it will be very interesting.

 



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Kym Kovan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Montag, 18. April 2005 09:58
An: CF-Talk
Betreff: macromedia and Adobe?!


The macromedia Home Page looks interesting..





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RE: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
> _global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");

Thats wrong... theres a space before BaseListBox. As well, that will look
for a global variable containing a reference to the control.

This looks to change the global style object for the default "Halo" theme...

_global.style.setStyle("themeColor", 0xff);

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Greg Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles


nope.  Still got green instead of red

dave wrote:

>ok so you are in flash ide
> you dont need to _root, you can use global styles instead
>
> _global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:38 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>
>We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox
>will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate
>the listbox. Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if
>the movie its in has a alpha of 0.
>
>dave wrote:
>
>
>
>>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>>
>>I tried that, no color change
>>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex
value where ff is)
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Greg Johnson
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>>>
>>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's
>>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even
>>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc,
>>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good
>>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Johnson
For some reason it just started working.

I placed a button on the first frame of the movie and called the 
instance Test
I then entered the code on the first frame this
_global.style.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);

I know I did this before, so I have no idea why it just started 
working.  I moved the button into the sub-movie that has the form and it 
worked, and the list box used the red correctly as well.  Only problem 
now is that the black text in the button stays visable when the 
sub-movie it is in is set to alpha 0.  But I have found that the default 
_sans/_serif fonts seem to cause that vs using Arial.

dave wrote:

>do you have a general global variable set?
> is the instance name correct?
>
> can you paste the .as code?
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:30 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>
>nope. Still got green instead of red
>
>dave wrote:
>
>  
>
>>ok so you are in flash ide
>>you dont need to _root, you can use global styles instead
>>
>>_global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:38 PM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>
>>We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox 
>>will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate 
>>the listbox. Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if 
>>the movie its in has a alpha of 0.
>>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>>>To: CF-Talk 
>>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>>
>>>I tried that, no color change
>>>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>>>
>>>dave wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex 
value where ff is)


From: Greg Johnson 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's 
haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even 
look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc, 
just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good 
info on setting up your own UI component color style?

Thanks









>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:54 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> Okay, buy it directly and show me how you do it.

There are a lot of tools you can't buy directly that are still under
development as parts of a suite or utilities - right now HomeSite+ is still
being shipped and (very irregularly) updated as part of the Dreamweaver
package.

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Errors working out last inserted ID

2005-04-18 Thread Stuart Kidd
Hi guys,

I've created a bit of code which is inserting to a few tables.  I've
implemented the @@identity and am having problems as an error is being
returned saying:

 Element INTERVIEWERUSERID is undefined in INSERTNEWINTERVIEWER.

That particular line it the one I have put asterisks around.

Does anyone know why it's not working?  I guess I haven't implemented the
@@identity properly.

Any help would be great.  Thanks.

Saturday

ps: my code is below.






SELECT userID, emailAddress, password
FROM tbl_020publicUsers
WHERE emailAddress = '#form.interviewerEmail#'


  


 


SET NOCOUNT ON
INSERT INTO tbl_020publicUsers (emailAddress, password)
VALUES ('#Form.interviewerEmail#', '#NewPassword#')
SELECT @@IDENTITY as interviewerUserID
SET NOCOUNT OFF






SELECT userID, emailAddress, password
FROM tbl_020publicUsers
WHERE emailAddress = '#form.intervieweeEmail#'


  


 


SET NOCOUNT ON
INSERT INTO tbl_020publicUsers (emailAddress, password)
VALUES ('#Form.intervieweeEmail#', '#NewPassword#')
SELECT @@IDENTITY as IntervieweeUserID
SET NOCOUNT OFF






SET NOCOUNT ON
INSERT INTO tbl_020publicInterviews (interviewTitle, interviewerID,
intervieweeID)
VALUES ('#Form.interviewTitle#',
#InsertNewInterviewer.interviewerUserID#,
#InsertNewInterviewee.intervieweeUserID#)
SELECT @@IDENTITY as InterviewID
SET NOCOUNT OFF





INSERT INTO tbl_020publicQuestions (interviewID, question)
VALUES (#InsertInterviewDetails.interviewID#,
'#Evaluate('form.question' & i)#')






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RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF
> 
> I write all my CFX tags in Delphi, you can use any Win32 or .NET (with the
> latest Delphi) based datasources that Delphi can access...
> 
> In the past I've integrated Oracle, SQL Server, Paradox (ugh), SQLite with
> Delphi apps I've worked on...
> 
> A good and solid Delphi CFX interface is available for free from
> 
> http://www.mycgiserver.com/~Leonidius/cfxd/cfxd.htm

Yup - this is the guy I was talking about - he works with me here in Boston
(well - in the same building at least - we've not been on the same project
for several years now).

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread dave
do you have a general global variable set?
 is the instance name correct?

 can you paste the .as code?


From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

nope. Still got green instead of red

dave wrote:

>ok so you are in flash ide
> you dont need to _root, you can use global styles instead
>
> _global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson 
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:38 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>
>We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox 
>will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate 
>the listbox. Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if 
>the movie its in has a alpha of 0.
>
>dave wrote:
>
> 
>
>>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>
>>I tried that, no color change
>>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex 
>>>value where ff is)
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk 
>>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>>
>>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's 
>>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even 
>>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc, 
>>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good 
>>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
> 
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AW: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Gert Franz
Hi guys,

We at railo look forward to the upcoming times. Either way it will be
good for Bluedragon or Railo. If Adobe decides to discontinue CF which
from a busines point ov view i would prefer, but from a private point of
view i would not prefer, the CF family needs to shift to another
CF-Server.
If not, CF will be one of many products by Adobe and it will not be as
important as it was before at Macromedia. But if Adobe thinks about
pushing CF, the would have to improve it with many new features and
change the price to one a mass product.
So either way, I guess it will be very interesting.

 



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Betreff: macromedia and Adobe?!


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Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>With Delphi, you're talking about the likes of InterBase and BDE

I know Interbase, but what is BDE?

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Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>I write all my CFX tags in Delphi,

Thanks for the info, but the problem here is not how to write a CF 
application in Delphi, but to rewrite a Delphi application in CF, using 
the same database.
I think the first thing I need to know now is the type of database which 
is used.
I thought that Delphi had it's own, just like Access.

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Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>But it seems like more digging is definitely in order!

Yah, this is what I am looking at for now.
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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Johnson
nope.  Still got green instead of red

dave wrote:

>ok so you are in flash ide
> you dont need to _root, you can use global styles instead
>
> _global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:38 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>
>We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox 
>will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate 
>the listbox. Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if 
>the movie its in has a alpha of 0.
>
>dave wrote:
>
>  
>
>>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>
>>I tried that, no color change
>>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex 
>>>value where ff is)
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk 
>>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>>
>>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's 
>>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even 
>>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc, 
>>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good 
>>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>

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Re: Compount XPath in xmlSearch()?

2005-04-18 Thread Brian Kotek
Thanks Barney, I arrived at a similar solution that seems to work:

xmlSearch( local.circuitXML, '/employees/employee[not(@status="inactive")]' )

and just for future info for anyone who stumbles on this thread, you
can specify multiple values to exclude like this:

xmlSearch( local.circuitXML,
'/employees/employee[not(@status="inactive" or @status="probation")]'
)

Thanks again Barney!

On 4/18/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That'll return a boolean value (exp1 AND NOT exp2), which isn't what you want.
> 
> /employees/[EMAIL PROTECTED] != 'inactive']
> 
> should get you what you want.
> 
> cheers,
> barneyb
> 
> On 4/18/05, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone know how to combine expressions in xmlSearch()? I'm trying
> > to select all nodes except where a certain attribute matches a value
> > that I specify. I'm trying this:
> >
> > xmlSearch( xmlObject, '(/employees/employee) and not
> > (/employees/[EMAIL PROTECTED]"inactive"])' )
> >
> > but I get the error:
> >
> > Can not convert #BOOLEAN to a NodeList!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian
> 
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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Lee
The new roadmap is going to be Adobe .CF to compete with 
..Net.




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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
There's this one:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/server_archive/articles/white_papers/allair
ebusinessplatform1.pdf 

Of course Flex has one:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/whitepapers/pdf/flex15_tech_wp.pdf 

Interestingly enough, Flex is going to have a CLR based version...

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

Maybe my .net vs. CF thread wasn't so kooky after all... I'm seeing talk in
here of no roadmaps for CF, etc..etc.. This is touching on what my points
were. 

h


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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread dave
and what did gel say about what happens to .net when shorthorn comes out and 
the whole avalon deal?
 maybe ms will have something new but i cant see their ".net road" traveling 
the distance


From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:12 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?! 

Maybe my .net vs. CF thread wasn't so kooky after all... I'm seeing talk in 
here of no roadmaps for CF, etc..etc.. This is touching on what my points were. 

h

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
Nope, that isn't HomeSite+.

- Calvin

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Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

> Alternatively, can you show me the product page link here:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/ ?
> 

its at the bottom, under 5.5 and mentioned in the last paragraph on
the ensuing page, about its bundled status with Dreamweaver's slow ass
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Re: Compount XPath in xmlSearch()?

2005-04-18 Thread Barney Boisvert
That'll return a boolean value (exp1 AND NOT exp2), which isn't what you want. 

/employees/[EMAIL PROTECTED] != 'inactive']

should get you what you want.  

cheers,
barneyb

On 4/18/05, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know how to combine expressions in xmlSearch()? I'm trying
> to select all nodes except where a certain attribute matches a value
> that I specify. I'm trying this:
> 
> xmlSearch( xmlObject, '(/employees/employee) and not
> (/employees/[EMAIL PROTECTED]"inactive"])' )
> 
> but I get the error:
> 
> Can not convert #BOOLEAN to a NodeList!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
It is, if you dig into the CD-ROM filesystem to grab it (it doesn't show up
on the install menu).

Sometimes a dead horse gets whipped at quite a bit before people realize
it's just not going to make the distance no matter how hard they beat on
it...

Just like the 'is HomeSite+ dead discussion?'! :)

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

Is it not still included with Studio MX?

The fact that you can't buy it standalone doesn't mean it's dead.

Comatose, yes...on a feeding tube, yes...but not quite dead yet :)


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> 
> Okay, buy it directly and show me how you do it.
> 
> Alternatively, can you show me the product page link here:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/ ?
> 
> How about the developer center page here: 
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/
> ?
> 
> =P
> 
> - Calvin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
> >
> > - Calvin
> 
> according to whom? cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?
> 
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RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Paul Vernon
I write all my CFX tags in Delphi, you can use any Win32 or .NET (with the
latest Delphi) based datasources that Delphi can access...

In the past I've integrated Oracle, SQL Server, Paradox (ugh), SQLite with
Delphi apps I've worked on...

A good and solid Delphi CFX interface is available for free from

http://www.mycgiserver.com/~Leonidius/cfxd/cfxd.htm

Just remember that all the demos with this do not have the MultiThread :=
True; line which you need to invoke the thread safe memory manager when
writing CFX tags All my tags use this implementation of the API and it
has taken me from CF4 through to 7 and BlueDragon with no issues at all :)

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Will Tomlinson
Maybe my .net vs. CF thread wasn't so kooky after all... I'm seeing talk in 
here of no roadmaps for CF, etc..etc.. This is touching on what my points were. 

h


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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Tony Weeg
> Alternatively, can you show me the product page link here:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/ ?
> 

its at the bottom, under 5.5 and mentioned in the last paragraph on
the ensuing page, about its bundled status with Dreamweaver's slow ass
:)

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Johnson
Flash MX 2004 (not the pro though)

Kevin Aebig wrote:

>It sounds like you're working on this in the Flash IDE. What version?
>
>Kevin
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Greg Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:33 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>
>
>We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox
>will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate
>the listbox.  Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if
>the movie its in has a alpha of 0.
>
>dave wrote:
>
>  
>
>>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>>
>>I tried that, no color change
>>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex
>>>  
>>>
>value where ff is)
>  
>
>>>
>>>From: Greg Johnson
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>>>
>>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's
>>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even
>>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc,
>>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good
>>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Scott Brady
On 4/18/05, Matthew Small  wrote:
> OK, but it's on almost every other Windows machine.  If it's a server it
> shouldn't even matter if it has Flash.

This is going pretty far off-topic, but . . . .

MSFT will soon be selling a version of Windows in Europe that doesn't
include WMP.  So, it'll be interesting to see how that affects WMP's
marketshare, if at all.

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Compount XPath in xmlSearch()?

2005-04-18 Thread Brian Kotek
Does anyone know how to combine expressions in xmlSearch()? I'm trying
to select all nodes except where a certain attribute matches a value
that I specify. I'm trying this:

xmlSearch( xmlObject, '(/employees/employee) and not
(/employees/[EMAIL PROTECTED]"inactive"])' )

but I get the error:

Can not convert #BOOLEAN to a NodeList!

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Re: Compount XPath in xmlSearch()?

2005-04-18 Thread Brian Kotek
Quick apology, I meant "compound" not "compount"!

On 4/18/05, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know how to combine expressions in xmlSearch()? I'm trying
> to select all nodes except where a certain attribute matches a value
> that I specify. I'm trying this:
> 
> xmlSearch( xmlObject, '(/employees/employee) and not
> (/employees/[EMAIL PROTECTED]"inactive"])' )
> 
> but I get the error:
> 
> Can not convert #BOOLEAN to a NodeList!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Charlie Griefer
Is it not still included with Studio MX?

The fact that you can't buy it standalone doesn't mean it's dead.

Comatose, yes...on a feeding tube, yes...but not quite dead yet :)


On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Okay, buy it directly and show me how you do it.
> 
> Alternatively, can you show me the product page link here:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/ ?
> 
> How about the developer center page here: 
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/
> ?
> 
> =P
> 
> - Calvin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
> >
> > - Calvin
> 
> according to whom? cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?
> 
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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread dave
ok so you are in flash ide
 you dont need to _root, you can use global styles instead

 _global. BaseListBox.style.setStyle("themeColor", "0xff");


From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:38 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox 
will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate 
the listbox. Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if 
the movie its in has a alpha of 0.

dave wrote:

>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson 
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>
>I tried that, no color change
>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>
>dave wrote:
>
> 
>
>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex value 
>>where ff is)
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>
>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's 
>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even 
>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc, 
>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good 
>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
> 
>

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RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF
> 
>  >>Delphi would probably (I'm guessing) use something like the JET
> engine if it
> 
> needed a database internally or (more likely) access an external database
> directly.
> 
> Ah ok, if I understand well, the Dephi application uses some ODBC
> connection,
> thus if I know what database is used, I could use it directly from CF.

Well - I'm not sure of that at all.

Also even if the Delphi Application was using an external database it might
not be using ODBC.

But it seems like more digging is definitely in order!

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
Okay, buy it directly and show me how you do it.

Alternatively, can you show me the product page link here:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/ ?

How about the developer center page here: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/
?

=P

- Calvin

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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
> 
> - Calvin

according to whom?  cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?

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Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Keith Gaughan
Jim Davis wrote:

> I didn't think that "Delphi" had a database engine at all.  Delphi (unless
> I'm wrong which is likely) is much more comparable to something like Visual
> Basic than to Access or Foxpro.
> 
> Delphi would probably (I'm guessing) use something like the JET engine if it
> needed a database internally or (more likely) access an external database
> directly.

With Delphi, you're talking about the likes of InterBase and BDE.

If it's InterBase, I'm pretty sure that there's ODBC drivers for it.
There's definitely JDBC drivers: check out the Firebird website.

K.

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Re: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>Delphi would probably (I'm guessing) use something like the JET 
engine if it

needed a database internally or (more likely) access an external database
directly.

Ah ok, if I understand well, the Dephi application uses some ODBC connection,
thus if I know what database is used, I could use it directly from CF.

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RE: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
It sounds like you're working on this in the Flash IDE. What version?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Greg Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles


We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox
will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate
the listbox.  Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if
the movie its in has a alpha of 0.

dave wrote:

>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>
>I tried that, no color change
>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>
>dave wrote:
>
>
>
>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex
value where ff is)
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles
>>
>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's
>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even
>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc,
>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good
>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Burns, John D
Yeah, Jim, I believe you're right. If the Delphi program was created
correctly, it could be something where you would use it as a CFX tag. 


John Burns
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Interfacing Delphi with CF
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I know little, if it is not nothing, about Delphi. Never heard of what

> kind of database an application developed under Delphi uses.
> Never heard of an ODBC driver for Delphi either.
> 
> Is it possible to interact with a Delphi database using ColdFusion?

I didn't think that "Delphi" had a database engine at all.  Delphi
(unless I'm wrong which is likely) is much more comparable to something
like Visual Basic than to Access or Foxpro.

Delphi would probably (I'm guessing) use something like the JET engine
if it needed a database internally or (more likely) access an external
database directly.

A guy I know (he works in my building and we're definitely on friendly
terms despite the fact that he opens pretty much every conversation with
"so, still using ColdFusion?) has done some work with Delphi and CF (but
nothing recently I think).  He created, back in the CF 4.5 days, an API
to allow CFXs to be built using Delphi.

In short while he's not done this kind of thing for a while he may be
able to offer some insight.  Here's his (rather old) page:

http://www.mycgiserver.com/~Leonidius/

You can tell him I suggested you drop him a line.

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Ray Champagne
Mine too!



Charlie Griefer wrote:
> HS+ is alive and well on my machine :)
> 
> On 4/18/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
>>>
>>>- Calvin
>>
>>according to whom? cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?
>>
>>--
>>tony
>>
>>Tony Weeg
>>
>>macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
>>email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
>>blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
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>>
>>"...straight cash homey"
>>- randy moss, now a raider
>>
>>
> 
> 
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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Charlie Griefer
HS+ is alive and well on my machine :)

On 4/18/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
> >
> > - Calvin
> 
> according to whom? cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?
> 
> --
> tony
> 
> Tony Weeg
> 
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> 
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> - randy moss, now a raider
> 
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RE: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Matthew Small
OK, but it's on almost every other Windows machine.  If it's a server it
shouldn't even matter if it has Flash.

I wonder if you really do or do not have a version of WMP on your server.
If you have a moment, go to start>run>mplayer2 and see if WMP comes up.  I
think it might.

- Matt Small

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Bloomberg article

Actually, it's not on EVERY windows machine. For many companies that
build a single image of Windows they choose for Windows Media to not be
installed.  Plus, I remove it from all of my servers that I build. Some
people may not, but I do.  I leave Flash Player on that machine though
and Windows Servers probably account for a decent percentage of
"computer connected to the internet". 


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-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Bloomberg article

dave wrote:
> " Forgive me if I take those with a grain of salt: have you seen where

> it  ranks Windows Media Player"
>  well wmp does kinda suck

Maybe so, but it's on EVERY windows machine.  Do you really believe that
  only 42% of internet connected PCs have Windows Media Player?

I can see Keith's point... though I *DO* believe that the flash player
numbers are pretty accurate.. I mean, so many web sites use it, and it's
VERY easy to install.  Although I did find some machines required a
reboot to install Flash Player 7.  That was annoying.

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RE: Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Interfacing Delphi with CF
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I know little, if it is not nothing, about Delphi. Never heard of what
> kind of database an application developed under Delphi uses.
> Never heard of an ODBC driver for Delphi either.
> 
> Is it possible to interact with a Delphi database using ColdFusion?

I didn't think that "Delphi" had a database engine at all.  Delphi (unless
I'm wrong which is likely) is much more comparable to something like Visual
Basic than to Access or Foxpro.

Delphi would probably (I'm guessing) use something like the JET engine if it
needed a database internally or (more likely) access an external database
directly.

A guy I know (he works in my building and we're definitely on friendly terms
despite the fact that he opens pretty much every conversation with "so,
still using ColdFusion?) has done some work with Delphi and CF (but nothing
recently I think).  He created, back in the CF 4.5 days, an API to allow
CFXs to be built using Delphi.

In short while he's not done this kind of thing for a while he may be able
to offer some insight.  Here's his (rather old) page:

http://www.mycgiserver.com/~Leonidius/

You can tell him I suggested you drop him a line.

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Tony Weeg
On 4/18/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note: Homesite+ is already dead.
> 
> - Calvin

according to whom?  cfstudio is dead, but im not sure homesite+ is?

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Johnson
We are making it so people can click on a county on a map, and a listbox 
will fade in where you can click house or senate and it will populate 
the listbox.  Plus I knowtice that the text on the buttons shows even if 
the movie its in has a alpha of 0.

dave wrote:

>is this for a flash form or for flash?
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>
>I tried that, no color change
>_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);
>
>dave wrote:
>
>  
>
>>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex value 
>>where ff is)
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson 
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>
>>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's 
>>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even 
>>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc, 
>>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good 
>>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>

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RE: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Burns, John D
Actually, it's not on EVERY windows machine. For many companies that
build a single image of Windows they choose for Windows Media to not be
installed.  Plus, I remove it from all of my servers that I build. Some
people may not, but I do.  I leave Flash Player on that machine though
and Windows Servers probably account for a decent percentage of
"computer connected to the internet". 


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-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Bloomberg article

dave wrote:
> " Forgive me if I take those with a grain of salt: have you seen where

> it  ranks Windows Media Player"
>  well wmp does kinda suck

Maybe so, but it's on EVERY windows machine.  Do you really believe that
  only 42% of internet connected PCs have Windows Media Player?

I can see Keith's point... though I *DO* believe that the flash player
numbers are pretty accurate.. I mean, so many web sites use it, and it's
VERY easy to install.  Although I did find some machines required a
reboot to install Flash Player 7.  That was annoying.

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> And you would get real satisfaction for a longer period out of purely
> maintaining... seriously? I think you will get bored pretty soon if you
> have to work like a patchrobot day in day out.

Geeze... I thought my mouth was empty, but now it seems somebody has put all
these words in there...?  ;^)

I didn't say _I_ would do anything of the sort.  All I'm saying is that some
people are very comfortable in that role.  There are people that love a
language and just want to work in it - others who just don't want to learn
anything new because they're just trying to make it to retirement.
 
> Maybe some oil on the fire, but it is never too late to invest some of
> your time into other products. I know, some people seem to have a dislike
> against it, but playing with C# (VB.NET is dead) might help your career
> and provides you with a different vision and the abilities to approach
> problems in a different way. Same counts for Java. Going from Java to C#
> is easier than going from C# to Java so keep that in mind. It might look a
> bit abstract but once you know the basics of the IDE and the language, you
> quickly end up playing with code in the late hours. It just depends on
> wether you are interested. It has no negative sides, besides that you
> start to get annoyed by differences.

Too true - and the great thing about CF is that regardless what happens
there are so many complementary skills to begin with.  SQL/Database
managment, Flash, JavaScript, DHTML, Java, Interface design, usability,
accessibility, Graphic Design, etc - all of these skills are directly
applicable to ColdFusion development.

(Personally I think that JavaScript is one of the very best things you could
learn today: knowing it means you know ActionScript, DHTML, Windows
Scripting, SilkScript, etc - it's just used in so many products today.)

Any of these skills might get you a job should CF disappear, but any of them
will also improve your CF work should you want to stay in that game.

Learning new skills doesn't mean you have to forsake your old skills - new
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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Tony Weeg
according to whom?

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Interfacing Delphi with CF

2005-04-18 Thread Claude Schneegans
Hi,

I know little, if it is not nothing, about Delphi. Never heard of what 
kind of database an application developed under Delphi uses.
Never heard of an ODBC driver for Delphi either.

Is it possible to interact with a Delphi database using ColdFusion?

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
I agree Micha, and it certainly didn't help that during significant CF
events (such as the newest version - 7) Macromedia didn't even bother to let
CF have the top banner on their website, for example.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

Just some food for thought, but CF under the name of Macromedia was really
hard for marketing. Macromedia has always been familiarized with Dreamweaver
and Flash. If you talk Macromedia, you talk Flash.
 
The rest of the nonflash related products never had that much marketing
Flash had, or even the attitude being a Macromedia flagship product. It
would not suprise me if alot of people didn't even know that Macromedia also
delivers RoboDemo for example.
 
I think the toughness of CF marketing continous under the Adobe brand,
because Adobe to the outside world is a supplier of Acrobat, Illustrator and
Photoshop. That Adobe has much more nice software to offer is often unknown
to many people. Adobe is a company of those three products, and I think they
would need an enormous amount or media attention to let the outside world
know they deliver CF.
 
For production the Flash Paper format is much quicker than PDF, totally
agree. But what happens when Adobe gets their hands on it, another Acrobat
software package eliminating all that light weight with plugins, extensions,
or heavy weight interface? That same situation is going on with PDF, well,
their last version improved drastically.
 
Big changes are in user interfaces. Macromedia and Adobe fought about some
patents, and with this merge you will get the best of both goods when
talking about user interface. 



From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 4/18/2005 6:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!



Well, "Adobe" is easier to type than "Macromedia".

-Original Message-
From: Jack Dalaa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

Wow, this is just totally surreal. Had a complete out-of-body experience
there for a few minutes. The perspectives and consequences are just
mind-boggling.. And not necessarily all bad.

Adobe ColdFusion
Adobe JRun
Adobe Flex
Adobe Dreamweaver

... Heh. The thought makes my head spin. I wonder what it will mean for
CF.

Wild stuff.


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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Calvin Ward
Note: Homesite+ is already dead.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

> -Original Message-
> From: Kym Kovan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:58 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> The macromedia Home Page looks interesting..

For what it's worth after reading all these threads across many lists:

First off this isn't a merger.  It's an acquisition pure and simple (in fact
while the Macromedia site says "merger" the Adobe site says "acquisition").
This is exactly what happened with Allaire/Macromedia by the way. 

Macromedia is, from the ground up, an online-centric company.  Its tools and
services are all for online use.  Adobe is, from the ground up, a
print-based/traditional media company: all of its online work has been added
to print-based tools.

In other words Adobe's bread and butter is traditional media while
Macromedia's is new media.  The merger makes perfect sense in that respect
but where these two ideas cross is where the sparks will fly.  I think that
this is where the real battle lines will be drawn in this merger.

To say, at this point, that ANY product will be eliminated is just plain
guessing.  If I had to make a prediction it would be something like the
following, but of course as the senior management of any company can be
quite literally insane anything could happen:

+) ColdFusion is safe.  It's a less popular product that its competition, to
be sure, but it's more than popular enough to pay for its development and
promotion and earn a profit.  There's no overlap between CF and another
Adobe tool.  It'll stay - I predict with very little change to the teams or
upgrade schedules - just as it is.

+) Dreamweaver is safe but will get the treatment.  It currently accounts
for something like 80% of corporate web development - you don't throw
numbers like that away.  However Dreamweaver will get more bloated as
compatibility with Adobe tools is added in (as was done when Dreamweaver was
modified to "replace" CF Studio/Homesite) - Dreamweaver will end up as part
of the "Adobe Creative Suite".

+) Flash is safe.  It's the primary target for the acquisition - it's
staying put.  Again it may get more bloated to provide compatibility with
Adobe products, but the Flash player will probably end up being the least
affected product.  The Flash editor however might get the same treatment
that DreamWeaver gets and end up as part of the "Adobe Creative Suite".

+) Flashpaper isn't safe.  Although it clearly has a niche to fill that
Acrobat doesn't address I think the corporation will shitcan Flashpaper.
The argument will be that Acrobat meets that need (even tho' it doesn't).

+) Director is safe even tho' it's (now) more "traditional media" centric
than other Macromedia tools.  It's still a niche market, but one which it
dominates.  Again it pays for itself and earns a profit - it's not going
anywhere.  I do think that you'll see Director/Premier bundling happen
sooner than later.

+) Flex isn't safe (at least as it exists today).  I think Flex's life
depends on the adoption rate of the product.  If Adobe sees Flex as an
expensive niche market player (which we must agree it is) that requires a
lot of legwork to make profitable (again, it seems like it does) they may
just cut it to prevent future headaches.

Even if that happens tho' I don't expect to see the technology behind Flex
go away.  It may be repurposed into a cheaper, more accessible form or added
to other products.

+) Smaller tools aren't safe.  Things like HomeSite+, RoboHelp, Breeze, etc
aren't safe just because of the corporate need to cut.  The merged company
will immediately attempt to show stockholders how concerned they are by
eliminating redundancies - they will also throw at least a few sacrificial
lambs on the altar of "streamlining".

These smaller, niche products with little support will be the first to go.

+) GoLive is dead.  Dead.  Dead.

+) Freehand is almost certainly dead.  Flash compatibility will be added to
Illustrator and that's that (for that matter I'm surprised that Adobe hasn't
just picked up Corel before now - I'm an ecstatic CorelDraw user but that
company is like the walking dead).

+) Most other Adobe products are safe: Acrobat, Premier, Photoshop, etc.
They are all pretty much defacto standards in their areas.  They're not
going anyplace.

That's about it.

But my major prediction is that the real twisting of the knife will occur
where there's an overlap in traditional and new medias - in that space
anything can happen.

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Micha Schopman
And you would get real satisfaction for a longer period out of purely 
maintaining... seriously? I think you will get bored pretty soon if you have to 
work like a patchrobot day in day out.
 
Maybe some oil on the fire, but it is never too late to invest some of your 
time into other products. I know, some people seem to have a dislike against 
it, but playing with C# (VB.NET is dead) might help your career and provides 
you with a different vision and the abilities to approach problems in a 
different way. Same counts for Java. Going from Java to C# is easier than going 
from C# to Java so keep that in mind. It might look a bit abstract but once you 
know the basics of the IDE and the language, you quickly end up playing with 
code in the late hours. It just depends on wether you are interested. It has no 
negative sides, besides that you start to get annoyed by differences. 
 
Just some food for thought.



From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 4/18/2005 8:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!



> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
>
> Not meaning to be rude, but don't you think that investing all of your
> effort in one skill is turning out to be a bad idea?  What happens if
> Adobe/MM DOES kill off ColdFusion?  Where will you be? This is not about
> me

I'll never defend all your eggs in one basket... but in the worst case
scenario:

ColdFusion is discontinued.  Dead.  No more development.  NewAtlanta
explodes in a shower of icy death.  No more supported CFML.

There are still ColdFusion applications - lots of them - out there.  They
will need to be maintained, extended, etc.

I've got a friend that makes a fine living doing nothing but Tango
development.  Another making a not so fine living doing nothing but
FileMaker development.  We've still got people doing nothing but Cobol and
PowerBuilder maintenance.

All of us CFers wouldn't be supported by the remaining work, but many could
be and a few could be for the rest of their lives.

It takes a long time for even a moderately successful technology to
completely die.

(Still the more likely scenario is that NewAtlanta would expand it's base
becoming the only stable supporter of CFML.  It could also be likely that,
with pressure, the CF source could be released as an Open Source product.
Of course the most likely scenario in my mind is that nothing of any real
importance will happen to CF at all.)

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-18 Thread dave
is this for a flash form or for flash?


From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:05 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 

I tried that, no color change
_root.BaseListBox.ListBox.styles.setStyle("themeColor",0xFF);

dave wrote:

>In flash to use a color instead of a halothem you use 0xff (use hex value 
>where ff is)
>
>
>From: Greg Johnson 
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:41 AM
>To: CF-Talk 
>Subject: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>
>Trying to create my own colors that I can set the same as flash's 
>haloOrange etc. Can't seem to find where they are defined so I can even 
>look at the ones that come with flash. Found the halotheme files etc, 
>just nowhere do I see haloOrange etc. Any websites out there with good 
>info on setting up your own UI component color style?
>
>Thanks
>
> 
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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Adam Haskell
On 4/18/05, Keith Gaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam Haskell wrote:
> 
> > Embedded pdfs still take a long time to load...flashpaper is supported
> > on over 98% of the computers on the internet, Acrobat is not near
> > that.
> 
> Where'd you get that statistic from?
> 

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/survey/

Note this is from a third party survey not from Macromedia...when
confronted about % of distribution Adobe evaded giving a % in the
meeting we had with them.

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Jack Dalaa
[snip]
> Of course the most likely scenario in my mind is that nothing of any real
> importance will happen to CF at all.)
> 
> Jim Davis

Couldn't agree more. The more I think about it, this is just positive 
news for CF. The server products like CF and Flex are incredibly 
important to Adobe. This is what they don't have, and what ties in very 
well to serve as a platform for delivering all sorts of content produced 
with the various tools, to all sorts of clients and devices.

I see plenty of opportunity for Adobe to screw this up big time, but 
have kicked this around in my head all day (I'm in Europe, so have had 
more time to digest this), and I can only come to a positive conclusion. 
This will be great for CF. Bigger name. Bigger pockets.

Exciting times. Turbulent for sure, but exciting.


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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Burns, John D
I agree with both stances.  MM does owe a certain part to the developers
who committed time and effort to learning a technology that made them a
bunch of money.  However, MM/Adobe shouldn't keep a product around just
because that's all you're willing to learn.

It goes back to a fundamental argument.  At lunch today I was discussing
with colleagues about US Taxes and how if they did away with all the
forms and went to a flat-tax many people would be extremely happy.
However, what about the tax preparers and all of the people who make
their living off the confusing system?  Does this mean we shouldn't do a
flat tax because it will make thousands unemployed?  Personally, I don't
think so.  I think whatever your job is, you need to be mindful of the
changes in your environment and be ready to adapt.  This is even more
true in a computer related field.

I think learning new technologies is great so that you can use the right
tool for the job.  Some projects may work best with ASP.net, some PHP,
some straight HTML and of course, some will be CF.  It's the old mindset
of having as many tools in your belt as possible.  Yeah, it would be a
pain for us to lose all of the cf-specific knowledge that we've picked
up over the years, but hopefully, everyone has picked up concepts as
well that can be adapted elsewhere. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

Not meaning to be rude, but don't you think that investing all of your
effort in one skill is turning out to be a bad idea?  What happens if
Adobe/MM DOES kill off ColdFusion?  Where will you be? This is not about
me being rude, it's about needing to realize that software languages/
technologies are here now, gone tomorrow, and you asking the company to
stick with the technology because you've learned it is about as fruitful
as asking the world to stop turning.

And I really don't want to starve any families.  But if they do, that's
not Adobe/Macromedia's fault, that's the breadwinner's fault.

- Matt Small



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RE: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Matthew Small
1) Yes, WMP version can be detected by Javascript
2) The player is already located on your (Windows and OSX) machine. If the
content cannot be streamed through the firewall, the player throws an error.
"Windows Media Player cannot find the network resources. Error: 0x800CD001".

Windows Media Player has a Class id and is embedded into a webpage in the
same manner that a flash player is.

You can download the Windows Media Player SDK which contains all of this
information at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmedia.


- Matt Small



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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Bloomberg article

Can WMP version be detected via a JS script like Flash?  I'd be curious
to know.  What if firewalls block WM content, would that show up as a
non-existent player? 


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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Rick Root
dave wrote:
> " Forgive me if I take those with a grain of salt: have you seen where it
>  ranks Windows Media Player"
>  well wmp does kinda suck 

Maybe so, but it's on EVERY windows machine.  Do you really believe that 
  only 42% of internet connected PCs have Windows Media Player?

I can see Keith's point... though I *DO* believe that the flash player 
numbers are pretty accurate.. I mean, so many web sites use it, and it's 
VERY easy to install.  Although I did find some machines required a 
reboot to install Flash Player 7.  That was annoying.

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Matthew Small
Ugh, now this is a discussion of social morals and not Adobe/Macromedia and
impending doom for ColdFusion.  If you want to continue this, you can ping
me on CF-Community.

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

Personally, I'm not too worried, my skills in C++ alone are enough to keep
me warm at night, but...

> This is not about me being rude, it's about needing
> to realize that software languages/technologies are
> here now, gone tomorrow, and you asking the company
> to stick with the technology because you've learned
> it is about as fruitful as asking the world to stop
> turning.

That might be true for alot, but products on the their 7th
or 8th production version don't really seem to be a gamble.

> And I really don't want to starve any families.  But
> if they do, that's not Adobe/Macromedia's fault, that's
> the breadwinner's fault.

And if I die in a GM car because of malfunction its my fault
for choosing that car. I'm not saying that it is there fault,
but they should maintain some kind of responsibility.

My point is that its insulting for you to downplay this because
it won't affect you if it happens. Its quite uncompassionate to
assume that everyone else is as secure as you.

Kevin


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RE: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Burns, John D
Can WMP version be detected via a JS script like Flash?  I'd be curious
to know.  What if firewalls block WM content, would that show up as a
non-existent player? 


John Burns
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-Original Message-
From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Bloomberg article

Burns, John D wrote:

> What wrong with high rankings for WMP?  Windows machines are all over 
> the place. Most times, people do have WMP, the problem with delivering

> it usually falls to firewalls and filters and packet inspectors.  The 
> numbers for WMP on the internet probably are staggeringly high.

It's not that it's too high, but that it's too low! Unbelievably so.

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SMS and billing

2005-04-18 Thread Nathan Strutz
Hey all,

I know, I know, nobody wants to talk about anything but the 
Adobe/Macromedia merger, but I need a little assistance.

We're talking about SMS messaging and the possibility of billing our 
customers through their mobile phone bill. I understand how the CF part 
technically works, SMS gateways and stuff. What I don't know is how we 
actually bill them.  Does anyone have any links or know where I can go 
to find this kind of info? Anybody know how it works?

thanks!

-nathan strutz
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> Not meaning to be rude, but don't you think that investing all of your
> effort in one skill is turning out to be a bad idea?  What happens if
> Adobe/MM DOES kill off ColdFusion?  Where will you be? This is not about
> me

I'll never defend all your eggs in one basket... but in the worst case
scenario:

ColdFusion is discontinued.  Dead.  No more development.  NewAtlanta
explodes in a shower of icy death.  No more supported CFML.

There are still ColdFusion applications - lots of them - out there.  They
will need to be maintained, extended, etc.
 
I've got a friend that makes a fine living doing nothing but Tango
development.  Another making a not so fine living doing nothing but
FileMaker development.  We've still got people doing nothing but Cobol and
PowerBuilder maintenance.

All of us CFers wouldn't be supported by the remaining work, but many could
be and a few could be for the rest of their lives.

It takes a long time for even a moderately successful technology to
completely die.

(Still the more likely scenario is that NewAtlanta would expand it's base
becoming the only stable supporter of CFML.  It could also be likely that,
with pressure, the CF source could be released as an Open Source product.
Of course the most likely scenario in my mind is that nothing of any real
importance will happen to CF at all.)

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CFMX7 schedule task every < 60 seconds.

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Fuller
Does anyone know how to get the cfmx7 scheduler to schedule a task for  
execution more frequently than 60 seconds.  If you enter less than "60" in  
the seconds box, you get the error "The task interval must be greater then  
60 seconds.". I'm willing to invoke sorcery or edit obscure configuration  
files if necessary.

Thanks in advance, Greg

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Graeme
That's exactly how I got into CF. I'm not a programmer.

---
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> -Original Message-
> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:52 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> Another plus for CF is that all of the graphic designers out 
> there now have an easy-to-learn product that they can use to 
> make their websites better.  CF may catch on for the "little 
> guy" even more who isn't a "programmer" but wants to use 
>  so his menu only has to exist in one file. 
> 
> 
> John Burns
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
Personally, I'm not too worried, my skills in C++ alone are enough to keep
me warm at night, but...

> This is not about me being rude, it's about needing
> to realize that software languages/technologies are
> here now, gone tomorrow, and you asking the company
> to stick with the technology because you've learned
> it is about as fruitful as asking the world to stop
> turning.

That might be true for alot, but products on the their 7th
or 8th production version don't really seem to be a gamble.

> And I really don't want to starve any families.  But
> if they do, that's not Adobe/Macromedia's fault, that's
> the breadwinner's fault.

And if I die in a GM car because of malfunction its my fault
for choosing that car. I'm not saying that it is there fault,
but they should maintain some kind of responsibility.

My point is that its insulting for you to downplay this because
it won't affect you if it happens. Its quite uncompassionate to
assume that everyone else is as secure as you.

Kevin

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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!


Not meaning to be rude, but don't you think that investing all of your
effort in one skill is turning out to be a bad idea?  What happens if
Adobe/MM DOES kill off ColdFusion?  Where will you be? This is not about me
being rude, it's about needing to realize that software languages/
technologies are here now, gone tomorrow, and you asking the company to
stick with the technology because you've learned it is about as fruitful as
asking the world to stop turning.

And I really don't want to starve any families.  But if they do, that's not
Adobe/Macromedia's fault, that's the breadwinner's fault.

- Matt Small




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From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

>You know, even if CF meets its maker, it's not the end of the world.  It's
>just a tool that we all use to make a living. Big deal, there are other
>things that do it as well.

As gently as I can put this, speak for yourself. I've supported MM since
Flash 3 and the integration of CF into their product line. All I've asked in
return was that they protect my investment in knowledge and help it grow.

Now I need to worry about another company running the show and potentially
running them into the ground to push ahead their own products. For you to
insinuate this as no big deal is pretty rude considering that alot of their
products help feed many families.

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From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!


I agree, it seems like most everybody on the list is Chicken Little.  This
is a company merger and nothing has been said about what the real impact on
CF or Flash or anything is.  Ben, oh Ben, where are you? Help us!

You know, even if CF meets its maker, it's not the end of the world.  It's
just a tool that we all use to make a living. Big deal, there are other
things that do it as well.

Think about the opportunities if CF does come to an end - which it won't -
there will be fewer and fewer people doing it, meaning that conversions to
new systems will take place, and you can be a major player in phasing it out
and then you will get the opportunity to learn a new technology which you
will probably then become a huge fan of because it's so much better than all
the others:

"Why in the world would anybody want to use anything other than Visual Java
.PHP?  It's the fastest and most scalable, and the compiler automatically
detects diseases in your body and deletes them!"

I can program in Java, CF, .NET (VB, C#), C++, Fortran, Pascal,
Javascript...  big deal, it's all the same.  It's a bunch of conditionals
that lead to a conclusion.  It's a Find-You-Own-Adventure book for
computers. There's a learning curve to get the most out of them, and some
are better than others for certain tasks (CF can't do multi-threading,
right?), but if you can program in CF, then you should be able to adapt to
the others.  If you can't adapt, then you are left in the cold and
rightfully so.

LET THE FLAMES BEGIN

- Matt Small




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From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

I am not saying I know anything private here, but I do
not really see a reason to be concerned. In fact, this
could be really, really good for CF.

Adobe has been trying all sorts of ways to get into
open source for the last couple of years. Would not be
terribly surprised to see CF become a purely open
source product.

M

--- Rob <[EMA

Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread dave
" Forgive me if I take those with a grain of salt: have you seen where it
 ranks Windows Media Player"
 well wmp does kinda suck 


From: Keith Gaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:12 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Bloomberg article 

Rick Root wrote:

> http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/
> 
> Though technically Flashpaper is only supported on 95.1% of platforms as 
> of December 2004. ;)

Forgive me if I take those with a grain of salt: have you seen where it
ranks Windows Media Player?

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:11 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> Just some food for thought, but CF under the name of Macromedia was really
> hard for marketing. Macromedia has always been familiarized with
> Dreamweaver and Flash. If you talk Macromedia, you talk Flash.

That depends on when you start.  When Macromedia was Macromind (and for a
while thereafter) you only spoke "Director".

Remember that Flash was an acquired product for Macromedia - not an in house
product.  It definitely brought them to the fore, but it wasn't their baby.

They were able to incorporate the product and promote it.
 
> The rest of the nonflash related products never had that much marketing
> Flash had, or even the attitude being a Macromedia flagship product. It
> would not suprise me if alot of people didn't even know that Macromedia
> also delivers RoboDemo for example.

I don't really think this equates.  Flash is the "everybody" thing for
Macromedia.  You need to get the message out about the player (to get it on
the systems) or you can't sell the authoring tool.

For other Macromedia products this just isn't the case: RoboDemo is a niche
product at best being marketed to a niche demographic (as is RoboHelp and,
for that matter, ColdFusion).

You'll never see the same kind of push for those products because they
simply don't need it.

> Big changes are in user interfaces. Macromedia and Adobe fought about some
> patents, and with this merge you will get the best of both goods when
> talking about user interface.

I agree completely here.

Functionality is becoming commoditized.  You want a stock list?  Hundreds of
sites can provide that.  You want a shopping cart?  Hundreds of thousands of
sites can provide that.

What's going to sell in the future is the experience: the attractive, fast,
easy-to-use stock list is going to outsell the last generation HTML table
stock list with the same exact information.

The same goes for editors, authoring tools, etc.  Macromedia has a top-notch
usability and interface development team.  I hope it will be put to good use
and allowed to grow to the level of Microsoft or Apple.

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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread dave
maybe that has to do with all the reports of it being microsofts "spyware"


From: Keith Gaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:28 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Bloomberg article 

Burns, John D wrote:

> What wrong with high rankings for WMP? Windows machines are all over
> the place. Most times, people do have WMP, the problem with delivering
> it usually falls to firewalls and filters and packet inspectors. The
> numbers for WMP on the internet probably are staggeringly high. 

It's not that it's too high, but that it's too low! Unbelievably so.

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RE: Bloomberg article

2005-04-18 Thread Matthew Small
The rankings for WMP are too low.  WMP has been installed on every Windows
machine for about forever.  You are right about having problems with
streaming media, for HTTP requests WMP works just fine.

- Matt Small


-Original Message-
From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Bloomberg article

What wrong with high rankings for WMP?  Windows machines are all over
the place. Most times, people do have WMP, the problem with delivering
it usually falls to firewalls and filters and packet inspectors.  The
numbers for WMP on the internet probably are staggeringly high. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

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From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Bloomberg article

Rick Root wrote:

> http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/
> 
> Though technically Flashpaper is only supported on 95.1% of platforms 
> as of December 2004. ;)

Forgive me if I take those with a grain of salt: have you seen where it
ranks Windows Media Player?

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